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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left, the voice of the Christian Resistance on this Tuesday, April 8th, 2025. And tonight is just myself and my illustrious host right now.
And my illustrious producer and co-host, Style. Hey, Pastor, how are you? I'm okay. How are you? I'm doing all right. All right. You're illustrious, you know, today.
That's what they call me. Okay. Do you know what the title of the message is?
What's that? The Unsealing is Now. Do You Understand? And so we start off talking about, out of Daniel chapter 12, and about the unsealing of the book. Now, as the book's unsealed, God through the Holy Spirit continues to reveal new things to us, new revelations to us. They may be new to us, but they've been right there in the Bible all of these years, thousands of years, been right there, but the time wasn't right. You know how they often say the Constitution is a living, breathing document?
Right. It's not. The Bible is. The Bible is. The Word of God, it reveals things as needed, and that's what's happening now. We talked about here, told you about in the end times, how transportation, traveling would increase, and it would be by literally people would literally be racing around the world. Then it gets into things like knowledge should be increased, and goes into things that we have today, like AM talk radio, television, you have all these spy satellites, you've got computers, you've got smart phones, you've got AI, all these things happening today, all these listening devices. We talked about the GPS.
I was saying how I had gone into a restaurant, and I sat down, my phone buzzed, I looked at it, and it was telling me what was the special there. In other words, let me know very clearly, we're there, we're here, we know everything, right? And so, tonight we're going to pick it up with the rapture, there's two raptures we're going to talk about this week, the rapture of the church-age saints, and then the rapture of the tribulation saints, and we're going to start with the rapture of the church-age saints. Are you ready for that?
I'm ready. Okay, we're going to start over in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, in verse 13, all the way through chapter 5 verse 9. But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that you sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. Now, it's an interesting thing. Why do you think they refer to Christians when they die as being but asleep?
Because they haven't been raptured yet, right? Right, well, it's referring to the body. The body is asleep.
Sure. But this is not soul sleep. Do you know what soul sleep is? What's soul sleep? This is what's being taught by, say, Seventh-day Adventists and some others. Soul sleep is that you just, when you die, you just sleep.
There's no activity. You just stay in the ground until the resurrection. Now, there's a problem with that, because there's no biblical evidence that that's the way it is. The Bible tells you very clearly, here, absent from the body. So that means you leave your body behind here, present with the Lord.
So we're triune beings. We have a body, soul and a spirit. And the body goes back to the elements, goes back to being dust. Well, your soul and spirit immediately go to be with the Lord if you're saved. If you're not saved, well, things don't end so well for you. And so, here, do you know what the difference is between the soul and your spirit?
What's that? Well, your soul is who you are. That's who you are. It's your personality. You know, it's like that James Dean thing that you do, okay? Notice that soul is your personality.
That's who you are. Your spirit is your life force, your energy. And for Christians, it's what? The Holy Spirit, right? Our spirit is with the Holy Spirit. And so, here, your soul and spirit go to be with the Lord.
And here, your body goes back to the dust. But he says, even as others which have no hope, those that don't have any hope, or who? Those are the unsaved, huh?
Right. And so, now, when you're talking about here with the word hope, it's used for us. It's not the same as we use that word here in the Bible. We have what is called, our hope is blessed assurance.
It actually is blessed assurance. And so, in other words, do we have any doubt about the truth of God's word in the Bible? No doubt.
No doubt at all. Okay, so we believe everything is going to come about just as prophesied, just like it has been for the last two thousand years, huh? Right. So, he goes on to say in verse 14, for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, then which also sleepeth in Jesus, will God bring with him? So, what do you think he means when he says, God will bring them with him? Well, to eternity, right? Pardon? To eternity?
Well, no. He's referring to, you see, now, when we've died, our body's going back to be in the ground. Our spirit and soul goes to be with the Lord. The rapture of the church, the Lord returns back to earth, but he doesn't come to earth. This is not the second coming. He returns back, but he, to the first heaven, to the first heaven.
He doesn't touch back down on earth. And here, then our bodies are, will be, our molecules will be resurrected, and when he comes back from the third heaven, he'll have, we will be with him, our spirit and our soul will be reunited in the air with our bodies, and it will be glorified bodies. He says here, for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, them also would sleep in Jesus, will God bring with him? For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. In other words, that word prevent means not go before.
We will not go ahead of them. And so he's saying that the dead in Christ will rise first. Their bodies will be resurrected, and they'll be reunited with their spirit and soul in the air. And then those of us, if we're alive, then we'll be caught up and we'll be glorified. Our bodies will be changed and given glorified bodies right there in the air. He says, for the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with a voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Okay, so here again, what that means, the dead in Christ, this is the day of Christ, the day of Christ. Do you know what the day of Christ always refers to? What's that? Salvation.
That makes sense. Salvation, redemption, okay. These are the things that it always refers to. Now that's the day of Christ. Now the day of Christ and the day of the Lord are two different things. The day of the Lord always refers to judgment. And so, you see, this is where some people get this mixed up, and that's what it costs them.
They get confused with the scripture. Again, for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, and with a voice of the archangel, and with a trump of God. Now this would be, the trump is the sound that a trumpet makes. This is not a trumpet, but this gets confused often with Revelation chapter 8. This is not the same, it's different. This would be the last sound before of the first trumpet.
So the first trumpet will sound, and then the very last sound, the last trump. Then the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and we shall ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. So here the whole point there is like death for Christians is considered merely being asleep, and again the sleep only applies to the body. It does not apply to the soul and to the spirit. The soul and the spirit will be very conscious and they'll be with the Lord. And I know that because that's what it says here, right?
Right. So here, and then we will return with the Lord to the third heaven. And then in verse 1 of chapter 5, but of the times and of the seasons, Brethren, you have no need that I write unto you. Well, when he says that times, the times and seasons, that phrase there occurs. Do you know only one of the time here, and that's in Acts chapter 1 verse 7, that refers to here the times style refers to future periods, future periods.
The seasons actually refers to the characteristics of those future periods. And so he says, for yourself know perfectly that the day the Lord cometh is a thief in the night. So what do you think he means by the thief is a thief in the night? You won't know, you won't see it coming.
Yeah, thieves don't usually announce it there, do they? So it's going to come when you least expect it. And so when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape. So here now, when a woman has her travail, when she has the birth pains come upon her, what follows that immediately?
She gives birth, she has a baby. Right. Yeah. You know what, it's only women that can do that.
That is true. The Democrats think that the men can do it, but they don't know any better, do they? I think you contradicted yourself.
I don't think Democrats think. Well, anyhow, I don't know. You have a point there, okay? But anyhow, for when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape.
In other words, boom, what's going to follow that is their judgment. But you, brethren, are not in darkness that that day shall overtake you as a thief. So he's talking about we're not in darkness. That means we're not ignorant to the times. We can see the times that we're living in.
We see signs, and we know that during these signs that are made that the time is even near, right? And so, therefore, let us not sleep as do others, but let us watch and be sober. Remember, the imminent return of the Lord Jesus, you know, came immediately upon his resurrection.
From the very day he was resurrected, they've been looking for his return. And he goes on to say, he goes on to say, but let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith, and the love, and for a helmet, the hope of salvation. But here's the very, very key verse. This is a really a big key verse in this passage of scripture right here. For God have not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. And so, what do you think he means by that? It's referring to something specific.
Not sure. It means that the church does not go through the tribulation period. For God have not appointed us to wrath. Wrath is the tribulation period. In fact, he tells you several places in scripture, in Romans here, in Thessalonians 1 and 2, also over in Revelation chapter 3, that the church will not go through the tribulation period. Do you know why the church won't go through the tribulation period?
Well, because they're saved, right? Well, it's because the purpose of the tribulation period is twofold. One is the purification period of the wife of God. It's the purification of the wife of God, which is the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel has yet to receive Christ as their Savior, have they? And two, it's for judgment upon the heat of the nations.
Judgment upon the heat of the nations. So, it would be totally illogical for the church to go through the tribulation period, because the church has already been purified, the purification. So, in other words, the church is the bride of Christ. Israel, the nation of Israel, is referred to as the wife of God.
So, the purpose is to purify Israel and the churches in Israel, isn't it? That's fair. And so, it's like having two children, and one of them gets in trouble. You don't punish both of them, do you? They do in the prison system here in Ohio. If somebody comes up and starts a fight and just punches, if one of the inmates just punches another inmate, they both go to the hole. That doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? No. But that's the way they've been doing it for a long time.
Okay. So, it would be absolutely, totally, without any logic for the church to go through the tribulation period. Now, the question always comes up, because scripture says that the Lord's returning for those that are looking for His return, for those that are looking for His return. And so, here, what do you think will happen to those that are Christians, that are professing Christians, that are saved? Because you have some, and I believe that they're saved, but they're, well, you have some preterists out there, and I know some, and I believe that they're saved, but they just kind of get it all wrong when it comes to the Bible, to scripture. I know some others that believe, well, they're mid-trib, and so they're not going to be looking for the Lord's return. They're expecting to go through the tribulation period, so they're not going to be looking for the rapture of the church.
So, what do you think? Do you think that they'll be left behind because of their unbelief and have to go through the tribulation period and become tribulation saints? You know, I'm not sure.
Hmm. That's a very good question. I'm not sure either, because a lot of people think that since they won't be looking for the Lord's return, they won't be taken up in the rapture, and they'll have to, because of their unbelief, they'll have to go through the tribulation period, which is not good. Well, it's like you said, and I always get confused with this part, is, you know, I do think that there are people who are saved, and they genuinely are saved, and are Christian, just might not understand or have a misunderstanding somewhere about how that works, and then, you know, is it a situation of my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because the knowledge is here and they just don't look further into it, or is it genuinely just a misconception? Well, it's biblically illiteracy where it comes to their, you know, they're not studying scripture or often, and I find this to be the case, what they do is, instead of opening up, do you know what the difference between exegetical and isegetical teaching is?
What's that? Okay, with exegetical teaching, you start with the precept that, look, I don't know what the truth is, but whatever the truth is, that's where I want to be. I want to know what the truth is, so what you do is you, exegetical means to pull out, you go to the word of God and you pull out the truth, you study, you find the truth, okay, now isegetical is different. You have people say, this is what I want to believe, this is what I want to believe, I want to believe, you know, that this happens, I want to believe that speaking in tongues today is corporately or whatever, so you start with that precept and you decide, I'm going to go throughout the Bible and try to find any kind of evidence of scripture that I can use to back up what I want to believe.
So, what is better, exegetical or isegetical? Well, exegetical is, I think, you know, a lot of what we see now, especially within the church, is a lot of isegetical view, and that's what's dangerous, is you have these people who either have been given a misunderstanding or taught a misunderstanding to their church or through their community and they're so dead set on what they believe or what they want to believe rather than what the Bible and the Word says, that it's always a confrontation at that point. Yeah, you're absolutely right, that's what happens, and again, you see, God's way ahead of us, His ways are so much higher than us, and it's always better to say, I want to know, you know, I want to be in compliance with God, with His Word, I want to know His truth, and I don't want to try to find a way to prove what I believe, and that's where you get into the isegetical teachings. Well, there's something, too, where I've had, you know, conversations brought up with other Christians of, there's a, at least there used to be, there's a big stigma in some churches that, oh, it's bad to ask questions because then you're questioning faith or you're questioning God, but that's how you gain more insight, that's how you learn more about it, by having questions, by inquiring, by conversing with other Christians. Well, yeah, you're supposed to ask questions, that's the purpose, but not during the sermon. Right. I have people, I have people that come, especially new people, and, you know, I'll be preaching a message and they'll be raising their hand, Pastor, you know, that's not the time you, you don't ask questions when a pastor's preaching the message, okay?
But they don't know because they're new, and so there you go. Well, see, now that's, that's the difference, like, that we have at Doers of the Word Baptist Church. I, I preach the message in the morning and it's a sermon. Pastor Hal preaches the evening, but his is more, in a sense of a, it's more like a Bible study. We start off with a Bible, I start off with a Bible study early in the morning at nine o'clock, we have two Bible studies, and then I preach the message at eleven thirty, and then Pastor Hal preaches the message at five, but his, his, as he goes through there, he stops and they don't say, any questions, or he'll ask people, do you understand this? So, it's more like a Bible study than it is a sermon, which is, which is good, because a lot of people like that, they like to be able to, as they go along.
So, anyhow, with that, I'm going to a break and I'll be back after this. I had this crazy dream about some folks who love this country, who all began to dream the same dream. And when the morning came, there arose across this nation, people thinking one and the same. And they woke to find their freedoms and all their liberties had gradually been taken away. And when they realized the danger to their posterity, I heard those patriotic people say, we want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our greed and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.
She's been driven way off back. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Remember golden days when the stars and stripes forever symbolized her glorious name, America.
But now it's all been changed. And when we gaze upon old glory, it's hard to fight the feelings of shame. We're fed up with lying politicians and greedy corporations who have sold us out time and again. And we're sick and tired of sending our soldiers off to wars that we were never meant to win. We want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back.
She's been driven way off track. We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore.
No, we're not gonna take it anymore. Now we know our cause is right and our victory's on the way. And we won't give up the fight till we hear 200 million say we want this country back.
We ain't just joking, Jack. We want our liberty and our dignity and our freedoms and our rights restored. We want this country back. And we ain't taking anymore back.
We're wide awake and we're madder than hell now. And we ain't gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. We said we're not gonna take it anymore. That's right, we're not gonna take it anymore. No, we're not gonna take it anymore. That's for sure. And tonight I have right here with me Stephanie Stockston with Ohio Advocates for Medical Freedom. And she's not gonna take it anymore she's ready to fight and uh are you ready to roll stephanie hi there yes ready always ready to fight all right do we have dr richard bartlett with us yet he's going to be calling in about 10 minutes okay well tell us what where are we at right now what kind of legislation do we have pending or where do we take it from here sir so i'm gonna give you an update first right now we're ohio's in the middle of working on their operating budget and as we all know all kinds of fun stuff gets thrown into state budgets um so this year we had some great reps that tried to get some medical freedom amendments into the budget um one of them would have required schools to notify parents that ohio has conscientious religious and medical exemptions for school under state law because right now the schools for years they've been lying to parents and not telling them that they have an option so we felt it's time for them to be transparent unfortunately our uh the speaker of the house and the finance chair speaker of the house is matt hoffman and the finance chair is uh brian stewart and they they denied it they would not put it in the budget um we had one that was submitted that would have required uh doctors that treat medicaid patients to report any vaccine injuries or reactions within 30 days of a patient being vaccinated they denied that amendment we had included a provision that would have required outpatient drugs to be filled by by pharmacists you know how they were denying everybody to get ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and all those different treatments you decimized um and because they i don't know they tnn told them not to brian told them not to i mean it was terrible a lot of patients died because they couldn't get care so we had a provision that would have required that um it would have protect health care provider licensure and medical free speech um because we know that you can't have informed consent without free seats because they come after your license right they were doing that uh they did that with dr mary bowden and several others across the country um they denied that one and then we had one for conscientious right to receive vaccines for work college medical care and public services all public services for adults and employment um and then for children we had vaccine status discrimination protection for children to receive medical care and transplants i'm sure you probably heard um we we've had multiple children here actually denied transplants and adults but more recently we had adeline deal and that is um jd vance's half sister she's married to adeline's big brother she's 12 year old little girl can't get uh a heart transplant or can't get put on the list for a heart transplant without um being vaccinated for covid and the flu possibly others yeah we're still trying to figure out what exactly all they're going to mandate for her at cincinnati children so that one was declined are you seeing a pattern yet ernie yeah we're seeing it here stephanie you know this this this is still i'm still absolutely amazed here how many people have died from that vax it's not really a vax okay uh it's a bioweapon over 20 million people have died from that shot so-called shot uh and here it's horrific and there's been so many that have died and been injured from multiple different vaccines across the board it's just the covid vaccine was the most egregious and to be in 2025 in a republican majority state and still be trying to fight to get vaccine choice and anti-discrimination protection is insane literally insane i mean the the people the republicans in the state are just so frustrated with the leadership here and they managed to and this is cute they put they've got a 600 million dollar bond for a brand new fancy brown stadium they managed to stick that in the budget but they can't they can't give any medical freedom oh and you'll love this one i forgot there was one more there was a request so 600 million in bonds for this brown stadium we they uh there was one rep that requested that they get they allocate 150 000 for the epa to test uh water treatment plants in six major cities to test for hormone blockers in public water systems that could be impacting children's health and their fertility denied so this is what we're dealing with in ohio it is absolutely maddening and if you have any ohio listeners i hope you'll get ohio ohio ams.org and learn about the bills all of the the conscientious right to refuse and the right to try legislation for requiring them to fill prescriptions it there is a builder bill for both of those in play it's just that we try to get large chunks of them put into the budget to try to get them passed more quickly because we already know ohioans want all of these things but we are still going to be pushing for those bills through the regular pathway we actually have proponent testimony for hb12 which is our right the jeff dave and angie patient right to try act will actually cover drug access for both inpatient hospitals nursing homes and for outpatient and it still protects freedom of speech and licensure for doctors who are trying to save lives so we're going to have up on the website the instructions for how to submit written testimony for that we already have our lineup of specific witnesses that we'll have for that day because we're limited to about 10 special witnesses for that but we would love any of your to go to our website at ohioamus.org and click on the legislative initiatives tab and go to click on hb12 and it tells you every it'll tell you it'll be up probably by this weekend everything you need to do to turn in a proponent testimony for that we have just we got to get this bill over the line i mean for people to still in 2025 not be able to access life-saving drugs because of literally political reasons is horrific well you know okay look why do you think it is look is it is it time for a safari do we need to go hunting rhinos look uh here you know there's got to be a very good reason and i think you and i know what the reason is you know the you know the bible says money asks with all things you know to those so i mean you know why else would they do what they're doing unless they were getting paid off what do you think right so we've actually looked into the financials and a lot of it's some of it's financials but a lot of it for these guys is power they all want to go somewhere they either want to be governor they want to go to the u.s senate congress whatever it's you know we're just we're stepping stones for these people in the situation with the current house speaker very power hungry i'm not sure how far he wants to go but i'm guessing he probably would like to be governor one day he's actually not so much bought by pharma he is bought by the chamber of commerce so and the chamber of commerce is probably you wouldn't think it but it may actually be the number one enemy to vaccine choice in the private sector they are they very much defend an employer's right to force vaccinate you they they testify against our legislation every assembly since 2015 they are absolutely opposed to that so speaker huffman is very much in bed with chamber of commerce chairman stewart the finance chair that was denying the amendments i was telling you about he's very much in bed with the chamber of commerce and then our speaker matt huffman his cousin is the chair of the health committee in the senate and he is our biggest obstruction in the senate and he is he is definitely bought by pharma i mean the pharmacist association all of those guys i mean like i think it was like eight we looked at him like eighty percent of his donors are all hospitals uh people under uh you know like medicaid insurance companies regular insurance companies the pharmacist association has all the hospitals hospital associations just terrible absolutely terrible i mean just he's 100 in with them and an ex-senator dave burke supposed republican he was actually the um he was in the senate and he was you know he's buddies with huffman and the huffman's cousin over they were all friends right because they were senators together because matt huffman just came he was just the senate president and now he came over to the house and he's the speaker of the house so um it's very it's very frustrating we have a lot of really good people actually um in the house and a few good ones in the senate and you know they want to do the right thing and they try so hard every assembly we are just working so hard for these bills and they're either just completely sidelined or trash like they you know we had uh we had right to try it was under a different name last assembly but absolutely gutted it only one portion went through and the governor vetoed it our i think i told i think i last time i called and i was telling you that how our governor had vetoed medical free speech i mean come on the line seriously how are these people republicans and they're supposed to be pro-life i mean you tell me ernie is access to life-saving drugs being pro-life is the ability to decline a vaccine that could cause you physical harm pro-life i mean those are pro-life issues how are these guys getting away with saying they're pro-life and not supporting medical freedom it's it's it's just completely contradictory well they're pro money they're pro money it's obvious that uh you know they're doing this for a reason they're doing they know what is wrong okay and again this is you know what it's always been it's what we've always had to face up and you know and within the republican party this is how we came up with the rhino blue 22 uh and and we warned people and warned people about all of these democrats that has switched parties and they were running as republican and that's what we have in there and but but for these guys to get in there uh and do what they're doing stephanie they're being bought in them so now do you think that we might get any help from rfk jr well i think he's he's going to be very focused at the federal level um i know they're going to be handling a lot of things with regards to food uh he may be doing something with the chemtrail stuff i'm hearing um i think he's going to focus a little bit more on those types of things i don't know that he's going to touch on anything regarding the vaccine issue other than hopefully getting some transparency in the science um i i'm very hopeful that that will take place i think it's going to take a long time actually to get people to wake up in general uh on the vaccine issue i think there's a lot of people awake on covid vaccine um but there are some pretty um there's some pretty bad history with the regular childhood schedule that really needs to come to light a lot of damage caused there and i do hope he will work on getting to the bottom of some of those issues but it's going to be up to the state to get your state level issues handled and that'll be you know access to drugs you know making sure your your health care providers have free speech making sure you have vaccine choice in your state because honestly the feds don't even i mean we shouldn't even have a cdc or any of that none of that's constitutional most of our three-letter agencies shouldn't even exist this should all be left to the state certainly public health should be left to the state so um in reality that's going to be something that we're going to have to tackle uh jacobson versus massachusetts in 1908 basically said that they said that it's it's really up to the state to decide whether or not they're going to have vaccine mandates um and that that's never changed so it's really i mean i think we're going to have some cover because you know kennedy's in there uh definitely it's a different feel i don't believe there's going to be any mandates or anything under kennedy i think we'll be able to work more freely in our state and be able to get more done hopefully um but i don't think he's going to be able to make wave any magic wand and make it you know all better for us i think we're going to still have to really do our work at state level well you see the opposition when they have a problem like they're doing right now uh with elon musk where you see that those the anti-israel groups they get out and they and they protest okay and these republican uh that you're talking about these rhinos they're not they're not very thick skin this thin skin it won't take a lot maybe maybe what they need stephanie is to show up at their office and protest and you know the um let people know or at least when you're ready you know you come on with their phone numbers and i mean have their phone numbers and um let us know casino with this radio program at one time turned in 400 phone calls to the statehouse in one day we did it one day okay wow yeah we could do that but you know you need the names of the people and and you start at one at a time you just go after one at a time uh and put the pressure you got to put you know fired to their feet because first of all you know we have the right to medical freedom and again you know they wouldn't be doing what they're doing unless they were profiting from it there's something in it for them and uh you know we can't let them get away with it no we absolutely can't and i mean it's really we already we passed a right to try through the house you know in under six months last assembly so the the house supports this legislation or it did last time but see now the problem is you know huffman was one of the ones that blocked if he blocked it in the senate now he's in the house so our biggest opposition uh in the house will be whether or not matt huffman allows it to go to the floor for a vote um and then if if he does um then our fight in the senate will be um you know the senate president is now mccully and mccully and huffman are very close huffman made sure he got appointed to the senate when huffman left so you know there's a lot of things at play um you will have to you know probably have to hound him i think he's a lot easier than matt huffman more reasonable than matt huffman um but you know like i said then they're that tight with each other and it's kind of like i rub i pat your back you pat mine um we could have a fight over there but certainly matt huffman uh will be our first person that we have to talk we'll get uh you know allowing this bill to move through and i actually have a phone number pulled up if you want me to say it we want to get hb 12 and hb 112 so it's pretty easy hb 12 is right to try and hb 112 is right to refuse so that's kind of easy to remember so if you can have your um your ohio folks call in uh 614 466 six three four four and ask us ask matt huffman to please move hb 12 and hb 112 through the house quickly and let's get ohioans some medical freedom that they deserve so that's six one four oh sorry yeah i'm just kidding yeah i'm trying to write this down a little so matt huffman and it's matt huffman okay matt matt huffman he's a speaker of the house and it is six one four four six six six three four four so he will be the first person we have to get these bills through the house first and then they go to the senate um you know and and i will say we regarding the rally idea it's something that we have done in the past and i think there are certain times for that in district when you're i would not i don't think the columbus ones are as effective because they kind of just look out the window at all the little ants at the bottom and there's no real pressure for them right because nobody's pointing at one person the real way to get to these guys is to do text messaging and mailers into their district you treat your bills like like you're in a primary right you send out a mailer and say the such-and-such legislator these this bill they're blocking this bill they did this they did that and you tell their voter base and these guys think oh you know i've got this conservative republican i'm in a 70 plus one district like we're rock solid here for republicans they have no idea that their legislators stabbing in the back them in the back they have no idea so when we do things like text their primary you know text their voters that are um they're high voting republicans right but republicans that frequently vote in the primary right which is where the republicans care because that's the only place where they can lose right once you see the primary and you're if you're in a republican district you're done you're set you're fine you can just kick back with a glass of wine or whatever right so the primaries really care about um so when you send that kind of stuff out and that that notifies their their voter base oh my gosh my legislator is working against me that's when people start getting mad and saying well we should primary this guy he needs an opponent we need somebody else and that that's when they start getting afraid of their constituents is when they worry that you're going to find somebody to primary them and you're going to risk their seat because most politicians care about few things and that is money and their seat and they're usually pretty close knit because you can't have you need money to keep your seat right so um that's the big thing that we're working towards um if anybody wants to help oams if anybody's willing to donate that is where we really want to put our resources this time is informing voters which reps are working against them so we can get rid of these people like you said we have got to go rhino hunting we have got to do it um i basically got dirt on all the bad guys i just need a little money to let their voters go so um that's you know that's the path forward i've heard from more than one representative down there stephanie if oamf had some decent money boy you could do some real damage down there i chuckle when i hear that but i knew it's true and i think that's the biggest problem with grassroots is we've got great voices we've got great passion but we are up against a money machine it is really a david and goliath um but god is great right so you know it might take them a hundred stones and it might only take us three but we do need the three stones so absolutely let me let me take a pause right here for a minute and tell folks listen folks get your pen and paper get your pen and paper let us write this down we need to do this okay remember what god's word the bible says be you a doer of the word not just to hear only deceiving your own selves you know you're hearing what needs to be done out here tonight um we're talking about medical freedom and you know what what happens because of this little children will suffer because there's not medical freedom we we want uh complete transparency we don't want what's going on in some of these schools we know that in some of these schools they're still telling these these uh children you know they're they're encouraging them to to go and transgender and and and they're you know and these girls we know that some of these young girls go and have abortions without and they're telling them this none of your parents business you don't have to tell them uh but if something goes wrong and a young girl ends up bleeding to death well then it's on her parents right but um so here's the number his name is matt hoffman and that hoffman is that matt or net m r matt m a c t matt okay okay matt hoffman and uh here his number is six one four four six six six three four four six one four four six six six three four four you need to call him and say look we want medical freedom we we we want our medical freedom and you know what's wrong with you guys what why won't you pass house bill 12 or house bill 112 who's getting paid that's that's right they make very good money i think the speaker makes like 110 000 a year or something i mean he does he does fine for himself plus all of his donations so i mean yeah he's he's sitting okay over there well you know again when they're going this route look when they're protecting the big drug big pharma uh the reason people protect big pharma is because they get paid that's the that's the way it happens this you know that just did and so uh you know we had to let them know you know one way or the other they get paid you know either power promotion or you know we've seen this before look at the us aid uh what has taken place there and so terrible yeah so again folks this is his name is matt hoffman you need to write this down to call him tomorrow you know and you don't even have to live in the state of ohio i don't care if you live in texas you can call and say what's wrong with you people in ohio okay 614-466-6344 and it's house bill 12 and house bill 112 medical freedom pass those bills get them passed give the people what the people deserve it you know it's we the people and it's medical freedom and so what's what do we have coming up here on may may 5th or may 6th what is it oh on april 30th is the proponent testimony for hb12 so that's the right to try though and even though we already have witnesses for being in person we can use as many written testimonies as possible so uh for those that can go to the website ohioamf.org and you click on the legislative initiative tabs it's under the more tab you click on more on the right hand side and then you click on legislative action and then you scroll down to hb12 and you click on it and it'll say the call it'll tell you what the bill does and it'll say the current call to action for hb12 is and then it'll say we need your proponent testimony here's what to do here's who you email it to and here's the format you put it in so we will give you step-by-step instructions we give you bullet points for what the bill does that way you can read it say oh yeah i like that here's why and you just jot it down and you send that it doesn't even have to be a big deal it doesn't have to be fancy we just want your voice to be heard even if you just write in there and say hey we really want you to vote yes on this bill we want to have access to get treatment options and then you sign your name it can be that simple just being part of the process is so important because for every person that sends in a testimony you probably represent 10 people that want to do it and either don't have time or they're nervous about doing it so be that voice for those other people because the more the more we more of those that we send in the more the pressure is on those legislators that they have got to keep their constituents happy and they need to get it done for us well so so tell the people again because you know what when it comes to the transparency this refers to you know being able to to buy ivermectin if we need it or yeah so let me yeah let me give let me just run through the bullet points of what the bill does just for your listeners so it'll protect the consenting patient's right to fill a prescription from their provider without obstruction from the pharmacist as long as there's not a life-threatening contraindication or drug interaction or if the pharmacist has a moral objection to filling obviously we don't want to be violating anybody's moral objection so we definitely had that included there and the bill will apply to outpatient pharmacies hospitals and nursing homes it also works it also prohibits pharmacists hospitals and nursing homes from refusing to fill a drug for consenting patients due to a scientific objection which is what these people were saying oh it doesn't work for that we're not going to fill that so basically the pharmacists were trying to be the doctor stephanie we're coming up to a heartbreak so hang tight here for about a minute or so and when we come back we'll pick it up there and maybe we'll take some folks some phone calls be right back after this one more thank you for listening to what's right what's left the voice 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