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The Loneliness of the Remnant Believer

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March 17, 2018 8:00 am

The Loneliness of the Remnant Believer

Understanding The Times / Jan Markell

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If you are feeling alone out employees isolated.

You may feel likely biblical nor and you may be a part of the remnant I can have that pastoral with two young generation right out the door between the ages of 15 and 35 they will feel what they want to know if headlights work through the political things of my day is definitely a cultural thing that I want to know what was going on was brave enough to theology and if after willing to reach that generation of people because they are out there. I can still have a remarkable work within their own for this is understanding the times radio with Jan Markel today. Jan begins a two-part series, with two pastors were not afraid to be honest about the condition of the church pastor Tom Hughes from 412 church in California pastor Mark Henry from revive church in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota by chance to guess for this series is our janitor panel pastors will be examining the remnant church and the reasons why they remnant church even exist in today's conversation here is Jan Markel and welcome to the program say I'm going to be talking church related issues this hour with two pastors I've gotten to know Pastor Tom hears through his prophecy updates online. His books, and more will talk about one of his books, perhaps a little bit later he's pastor of 412 church at Calvary Chapel church in San Jacinto, California and joining the in studio is pastor Mark Henry from revive church in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota Twin Cities suburb. Some of you know that church is Brooklyn Park E frame and they will join me and just, well, just a little bit later after I sort of set the stage to the topic.

A remnant church and remnant believers. Now let me just say this first that I recently wrote an E newsletter and I titled it. Well, it's about remnant believers and and I just got a counter review what I wrote this went out to some 60 70,000 people who sign up for our E newsletter which you can do it.

Olive tree and I asked in this article. If readers had ever heard of the word remnant and some people are called remnant believers. There are remnant churches, and perhaps you know of some who attend one of those remnant churches and I often say I do radio for the remnant. So I began to pay more attention to this term. I got a couple of emails on a Regis just a couple of lines from a few emails and Benjamin wrote he said Jan I feel the remnant is getting smaller every day. As the time approaches for the Lord's return. The world seems to be getting darker and more evil.

I know I'm not alone as a member of the body of Christ, but at times I feel so isolated I got another email from Patrice and she wrote I just read your newsletter and I want to thank you for your article on the remnant church.

She says you hit the nail on the head and everything you write about that church. I am experiencing Jesus I feel so alone and no one wants to discuss events of the day, and certainly not Bible prophecy or eschatology.

If I mention these things, they shudder. She goes on my husband and I are visiting churches and have not found one that addresses these issues. Some in these churches have gotten angry and asked that I not come back and feel like crying when I leave. I tried to sit there, but I wonder why they never talk about what's going on what's happening in Israel or the intensifying birth pangs.

Then I got another email from Carolyn my church has no excitement about prophetic fulfillment applicable for today when I bring up what I learned on your broadcast Jan, I am put down. I am so lonely for like-minded believers. Okay, so based on a lot of interactions including some people at my annual conference. I came up with kind of what is a remnant church and I want to just give eight bullet points and then I'm going to read a couple more emails and then I want to bring on my pastors who are my guests for the rest of the programming remnant church is made up of people longing for a solid church and a pulpit that will address issues of the day, as well as the nearness of the Lord's return, a remnant believer wants a church that will not fear of offending with the truth and that certainly will confront apostasy.

Now here's point number two of what is a remnant, believer, or church remnant believers have offended friends and family. Simply by telling them the truth of our times were for sharing information that is relevant to our times. This will often bring on mocking and scoffing at the least, it results in irritated indifference. And this doesn't daunt a remnant believer and such a tragic response does not keep them quiet. Number three enthusiastic remnant believers will travel across town or across country to attend events that present information about which the church is silent. Number four remnant believers often feel isolated, misunderstood, even though they have the truth, and the naysayers quite frankly are clueless. Number five members of the remnant church CR times darkening, but remain enthusiastic that this is but a herald of his coming. Not signs of doom and gloom number six when a remnant believer finds someone who is of kindred spirit, frankly, is like discovering a gold mind. Number seven. Such believers often had a very solid church, but in many cases it went haywire a little leaven came in it ruin the whole loaf. Then they began a long journey of searching for a new church which may take years.

In some cases, decades, and lastly very often these believers approach their church leadership to talk to them about these things but they are usually set out so some who are of hearing this find themselves among the above mentioned bullet points and you also identified with the three emails that I read. Now let me just say a few more words because I'm trying to paint the picture here to set the stage before I bring some guests on UNSCOP to thinking about the people who make quilts. Some of you know such folks and they use a wide variety of mismatched remnants and such professionals discard sections of fabric from garments that were no longer usable, but they were then sewn into an unbelievably elegant quilt.

The tossed aside remnant became an object of creativity and beauty.

So I want to say this if you are a remnant believer. Please take heart and remember that you two are a creative and colorful quilt and eternity may reveal that you broke through to more people than you ever thought you did remember that such mocking and scoffing are fulfilling end time prophecies as well and that we are living in the most significant time in history, and the most prophecy fulfilling days and yet we are in the days with the least amount of interest in taking a lot of serious issues.

Quite frankly, seriously people are perishing for lack of knowledge and who will tell them if you don't, but I hear what I'm to do here before I bring in my two guest pastors and want to read just a few more emails and I think some of you will identify with. For instance Christina out of Washington state that she says going back to this item I wrote on the remnant church. This latest email. This latest newsletter you sent out. Jan has put words to my vague sense of loneliness and isolation. It seems like increasingly huge parts of Scripture are being ignored. Just last Sunday was announced that Wednesday night expositional teaching would be replaced by topical quote in order to be more relevant." There have been no more prophecy, updates, and she just goes on to say. All I can say is I appreciate people like you have discovered JD Parag and others, and you have become my church. I've heard from oh I heard from so many people like that couldn't possibly read all the emails and other rights. Thank you for your article.

My husband and I have been experiencing all you and your email have described.

We have been scrutinized in our eldest son even attended the morning sessions of your 2016 conference with me to see what we were being taught then derided us for any mention of the world events are Bible prophecy. Those are all negative and he has shunned us and cut us off even over who we voted for another one rights after 24 years in the same church I am wandering from church to church trying to find this needed balance, but I direct everyone that has a brain to tune into your program and follow your daily news.

Thank you for everything. Not sure where would be without you because I am so alone. Sandy writes, oh, how I needed this today. Thank you Jan, I thought I was all alone.

Another one rights as for all the emails you got about how alone people feel, wow, do I know that feeling so well. Pam in Pennsylvania. Okay, that sets the stage for a discussion. I'm going to have and I want to bring on the line from California pastor Tom Hughes 412 church San Jacinto, California.

Tom welcome and Pastor Mark Henry revived church, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota. He's in studio with me?

Jim is going to be with you again. Okay, where do we begin some questions to you two gentlemen, I want to start firing end of let's get some answers from you. You heard what I said anything I read there talked about anything in the email I got more emails I will read any of that surprise you?

You know of it surprises me. In fact I we pastors conferences on a fairly regular basis and I find a lot of pastors are pretty lonely today. Are they really you because you know you you go to a seminary and quite honestly, the seminary doesn't have classes anymore. Systematic theology. Don't talk about eschatology are not dispensational. They're having, you know that the reading of that is typically taking place anymore with less and less Bible and more and more spiritual formation for all sorts of different okay interesting pastor Tom Hughes someone wrote it in the list of emails I have and I probably get to it eventually one of them wrote and said that that is taken her 42 years and two countries to find a church, but she finally has. Does that surprise you. Totally surprised me about your really long time. What Mark helped her talk with Dr. but feel this way but when I go to other conferences speak of the slip-up for triple there are always people that come up you and the other people you speak with Jim old people to multiply every three churches on lively what's real and you whoever it may be become the church will not wait for your €43 really want to. Both wrote about the person who wrote me was very serious she was. Not being dramatic. She just said it literally took 42 years and two countries, but she finally has found a solid church pastor Mark Henry pastors have to preach the whole counsel. We all know that every topic imaginable from marriage to finance you name it, but there are some issues that just won't be addressed. These days, you've already suggested one eschatology I suggested one politics I suggested another cultural issues, same-sex marriage, etc. and if one or more of these are of particular interest to somebody should a person leave a church over a single issue that may not be being preached from the pulpit. You know Jim, I was pull people back there's five core Christian views that you have when you look at any church was a review of the Scripture as their view of Christ as he fully God, the Bible authoritative is Jesus fully God become flesh, the virgin birth. When you have substitutionary death, bodily resurrection crucifixion of Christ. Justification by faith and everything builds from there is one, one talking to a pastor, I actually walk through those sites with lots of pastors who don't believe those five core railings so we start to jump these other elements of theology comes back to my view of Scripture.

If I don't have a very high view of Scripture when it comes to eschatology if it's gonna come out or social issues. But here's another problem I'm seeing with pastors and Tom I know you see it as well is that the younger pastors have not seen older pastors address current issues and quite honestly there floundering. How do I see you know these issues about homosexuality or abuse, geology, or whatever I would do this in an honor God and walk through it and not just get, you know, just just blown away or get scooter only sorts of things and I think a certain sense of courage. I think they understand the Bible, but also be mindful a lot of pastors are reading ancient literature and quite honestly, politics are in ancient literature and in so trying to fuse that in my that's why Tom is so important.

Other guys like Tom setting up pace and an example for younger pastors in our generation is really important to have that time you want to weigh into that actual doctor was hail not too long ago with pretty well-known Bible teacher Bible prophecy cultural issues with the whole book, but we were asked the question should I weave my church. If an oxygen Bible prophecy. So we stuck to the core. The core elements can the problem of a lot of churches go to Bible property code was marked much about the model, but they have to go to really understand the seminary part. The primary thing of sticking with Christ crucified Ruth in the gym where your solvation movement. Everything goes from there.

However, at the same time I felt moved Jim there's a lot of young men and young women that want to know how do they relate to the world a little bit of things remove enough stop marks absolutely right productive unit primarily for not doing a lot of older churches. Believe it or not, because they have been modeled for them, but there's a lot of young people that are really hungry. Unfortunately, there's young people coming out of seminaries that are teaching.

I'm convinced that if a pastor will listen to the young generation rebels. Those were between the ages of 15 and 35 they will listen to what they want to know if I would like to work through the political things with my day.

Definitely a cultural thing that they want to know what the world was going on. Which brings in eschatology.

If a pastors willing to reach that generation of people because their outfitter on convinced the feel of remarkable work within their own church don't have to bring up Bible prophecy every single Sunday like I do, but the learn to work it in the pastors willing to listen to what unchurched people and even young church people are looking for curricula which are missing a single soaping of movements well and I want to be clear that eschatology is is not really the focus of where it's very important and that's not the focus of this hour. However, having said that when I sent this e-news letter out this would've been couple months ago now says the replies indicated. You know, a lot of things are missing in my church. Or maybe just a few things are missing my church. But the thing that they want to emphasize Tom was but the thing that is closest to my heart that is missing is Bible prophecy even though that wasn't the emphasis of anything that's what came back to me. Lots of things might be missing and maybe the youth group is in the hottest or maybe this is the hottest thing is closest to my heart that the king is coming will not ever ever ever ever be addressed in my and then they would say gone from church to church to church. As you gentlemen have heard here's another email your article today about feeling so alone and being unable to find a truth teaching church. It may right between the eyes and as that's been my situation for several years. I'm in the so-called Bible Belt.

It can even find the truth, teaching church and that's another word that kept coming through gentlemen is truth, truth, teaching and other Christians think I'm out of my mind as I believe what you believe it gets lonely being a remnant believer my dream for years now has been to attend one of your conferences.

As I sat here at my computer, reading your email today I had a thought that up to now I never had before. I know the chances are nearly impossible unless God puts it together. Jan you know of anybody who could and then she goes on to say she lives in Northwest Arkansas would love to come of the 2018 conference anybody in the neighborhood stop and pick her up. It would absolutely make her day so she could be part of the remnant remnant believers have becoming up September 29 this fall here near Northwest Arkansas which a right may folks and I'll put you in touch with this person who just says she's so lonely and is trying to find the truth.

Teaching church she's in the Bible Belt, Northwest Arkansas okay folks I'm going to come back in just a couple minutes readily continue our discussion and got in studio with me pastor Mark Henry from revived church in Brooklyn Park that is a suburb of Minneapolis, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, and that's for my broken part Ephraim Pastor Tom Hughes part of the Calvary Chapel stream San Jacinto California town has a new book out were going to get to that eventually, even if we have to do to programs will see here how her time plays out book on America, which I think it all find quite interesting. So I'm coming back in just a couple of minutes don't go away chance to understand the times radio guest with her for a two week series.

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That is to get up there and tell their friends and family and her coworkers that Jesus Christ is come in and then thirdly it brings people great great confidence. Confidence in knowing that God's word never fails, it will never fail because what God's side of the past has been confirmed by his prophetic fulfillment study Bible prophecy and get excited about the future. I wrote a G newsletter couple months ago now on was the remnant church on remnant believers.

What are they and had so much response from remnant believers who feel so alone. Feel isolated. Cannot find the church and I don't think any of them are looking for perfection but they just visited church after church and they seem to be marginalize these kinds of remnant on all typical. What they don't know it very well fully avoided. Which of one if I think of for your free or too much of people enjoying a part series on terrorist turned out to John Markel's conversation with pastors Tom Hughes and Mark and welcome back. Remember, this program is posted to my web every Saturday morning olive tree olive tree or you can go to one You can sign up for their mobile app program will be downloaded every Saturday to the app Now let me reset the stage by saying that I wrote in the newsletter couple months ago now on the remnant church on remnant believers.

What are they and had so much response from remnant believers who feel so alone. Feel isolated. Cannot find a church, and I don't think any of them are looking for perfection but they just have visited church after church and they seem to be marginalize these kinds of remnant believers so I'm doing a program on it with two pastors one is Pastor Tom Hughes 412 church San Jacinto, California.

That's a Calvary Chapel and locally. Pastor Mark Henry revived church, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, formally Brooklyn Park, he free.

Just change the name and change the Pastor because Pastor Mark Henry your kind of new Dell were new to the to the area.

Work cited God's blessing the church and is reviving hearts, and were just excited and you're doing a prophecy conference next weekend and I want to say a few words about that that says, Saturday, Sunday, March 24 25th Brooklyn Park. Ephraim now called revived church Brooklyn Park talk to me just a little about it yet and were excited about that because the Lord is teaching the Bible right the Bible is all about the Lord Jesus Christ. From beginning to end. Quite honestly, the end is he wins and he is coming glory, our majesties will prophecy conference is March 24 25th Saturdays and be 9 AM. Doors will open. There's no cost or will be a free will offering goes to 4 PM and Sunday will have three services as usual and I'll be speaking during all through those services.

About the rapture of the church. We got you covered in speaking Tom Hughes is coming off California to speak in all three of us would have a great time studying the Scriptures encouraging God's people and you got CDs and DVDs about a month later.

I think that's our plan were going to go ahead and get everything videoed and will try get those out the folks as they like. Okay folks that's next weekend at the revived church.

What's the address market saw 7849 W. Broadway, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, and that's 9 to 4 on Saturday or Sunday services are 910 11 Tom Hughes and I speak Saturday morning and Saturday afternoon and I think you are the celebrity on Sunday right like to cover Sunday and get MC enjoy the time with you and okay will folks come on out I'll have a table there will have some products. Tom will as well and I looking forward to it and lunch will be on your own folks you can.

There's lots of area restaurants there. Okay, let's go back. Pastor Mark and Ray were talking little bit during the break about the five points and you wanted to elaborate on something you said concerning those yet once once someone can establishing of the five core things a Christian you or your Scripture and the person work of Jesus Christ. The reality is if you teach the Bible. Eschatology is the Bible to help.

Jesus is winning. He's the Savior of our souls is the promised one in Genesis chapter 3 is the becoming Savior and he's the King of Kings and Lord of lords, and so they are tradeshow with pastors all the time. You gotta teach the whole counsel of Scripture. You say you believe that every 20 doses or so in the New Testament come back to the second coming of Christ in some way and we just need to open your eyes and teach the Bible against Tom Hughes, you wrote an article about this. This is at least a year ago now and I don't have it in front of me but I did an E blast and a newsletter on your article because it was so profound.

Can you summarize that in a while but I remember your publishing.

Quite what to teach on Bible prophecy or ecology that are typical. One of the notes that they don't know it very well fully avoided. Which of another one if I think of one year free but there don't lose your audience more frightened them too much of people will be typing anymore. Will we live in a culture that in America were the best with the footer of the pulpit spell or a really jumbled about having your best life out right and not looking into eternity. But we are supposed should be looking into eternity. I have found opposite what JD goes like this Bible prophecy. Every Sunday night people the hope of looking for to Christ community input.

Pastors are free to do it. I think in the amount of empty pew things like that but I am also convinced of the gym. If the church will be willing to fester. Be willing to teach him. You think God will bring remnant believers will bring them to the church because of the type you are looking for that will draw the that's right my life story and then we press forward and parked about fluidly right of Joel Rosenberg so there's a plate with many prophecies of the second coming of Christ of the first companies in so many churches and a lot of them are solid in other parts of theology, but they completely avoid eschatology built to say well to symbolic door will try to spiritualize the pathogen you eliminate your book Bible when you start doing if you could preach Christ correctly. If his first coming into second coming in who the person of Jesus Christ with which of the book of Revelation is the revelation of Jesus Christ leverage us another couple of emails here after she read my E newsletter again this is many weeks ago. Now how heartening to see that I am not weird you're alone in my yearning for a real church. This is Julia, not that I want to see anyone else. That way, but I it does speak to the culture of today and why I feel so alone and I know I'm not because of his words, but it is a temptation to think that I am standing by myself. Thank you so much for this article and for the encouragement that it brings. I think about our persecuted brothers and sisters and think they must feel terribly alone to somebody else writes, thank you for this E newsletter.

Yes, this is so very true. Even in my little world in South Africa. I haven't attended church for three years for none of the churches in my town speak the truth. Eschatology is a no go for three quarters of these churches rescued a gentleman to question there is a verse obviously that I think all of us are familiar with found in Hebrews 1025 talks about not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together? Does that assembling of yourselves have to be a church you look at that passage over the years.

I think that's the natural reading of it. If you read on in the in the following verses the following chapters. It talks about elders and submitting the following their example and in the them being to give the guys give those I think that really is the overall context but you know God gives us individuals. Elijah felt all alone.

He was one said got them all alone is in the cave Jezebels trying to kill him.

She's tried to kill off all the prophets into things happen. One, he says Elijah there 7005 about the need to bail that's huge they do something else and he says no go anoint Elisha gives him one friend and you know, God gives us graciously friends along the way to encourage her souls, sometimes at the radio's investor tape custard in a very remote place and guys would send me tapes. I would listen of back-and-forth before Fiala technology and we have the day.

What a blessing it was and I find that still be a blessing to town what is your thought on Hebrews 1020 50 church however church to work two or more debit. That's right, the name of Christ.

So help those in the book of acts where you have ladies who are leaving for church service, small group, and you have a very small group in the New Testament so in verse 25 encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the day approaching. If so, if you gotta find at least someone to meet with the other thing if we look at the church and what they were supposed to do when they gather to worship together. It does involve corporate worship and corporate learning of the word, so it might be two or three people together, but you really need to be in fellowship. There's gotta be somebody out there in your area. We often hear stories of the missionaries within the most remote part of the world or the person with the most remote part of the world.

Plaintiff noticed God revealed to them through the creation of the missionary in I believe that remnant believers, we might be thinking I'm all alone like a like a good earthly framework for me to one person and I think maybe a lot of time with them. You church which would be great, but sometimes it begins with that one person having that longing and been developed to better for you and you know they sort of in the legitimate church service might become people might be 20 people, but you don't want to forsake the encouragement in the worship together as much as possible.

The couple other people look at that passage. Definitely the churches in the New Testament were pretty small and as you even read the verse before about them assembling together talks about stimulating one another to love and good works, and so the importance of the body of Christ importance of a local church, but but here's the thing. Every generation finds churches church the lifespan of 80 or life and they move naturally to randomness and chaos and destruction. Everything our world does in our bodies getting older. Learning about things like that and so God raises up a new generation of people to start new churches and so forth. And that's a resistor a couple churches in Colorado in the town that I serve the church and in order to go to a really good Bible believing church.

A healthy, thriving church, you have to drive 125 miles to the east or you had to drive 45 miles to the west and we started a great church there and then we start another church.

About an hour away in another church down the road and God raises up a new generation so the people listening to one of the things you might want to think about is contacting Tom's church there's a there's a 412 Association of one of things that were doing us helping start new churches that are vibrant and helping also churches turn around. Recently I had a showman contact me in his church had been in decline in there looking for a pastor and it's you. We need someone to teach the Bible again in all of the Bible including the book of Revelation self-worth in the Olivet discourse. They're just trying to revitalize their ministry again. That's a healthy thing is a good thing after time he was. You have done prophecy updates online for quite some time. I was I was privileged to be your TV guest here not too long ago and you just cannot rename to your website.

Give it please would you hope for our point in time CV now is hope for our times die, no Handford there too many people complained but we need hope for finding an interest in him. Mark talked about the church we now have five churches that are part of the 412 okay and that was to help help after trying them but to also teach premillennial doctrine ever so great, I will. I look at the feet of the huge void that comes back to me.

We like to encourage all the teach on the cultural issues deal with what we have before pathology. The expect them to be of far long if I am at this point but could be premillennial in your doctrine and to not avoid the books of Revelation and so forth. So if you maybe there's more churches like the JD inspires a lot he does for the 412 that's Calvary Chapel string. The church is correct, we are four of them in our association work will reach up as one of them not okay for 12 stands for wanted to explain what that stands for acts 412. Hebrews 412 Ephesians 412 when disciple said for 12 there's no other name under heaven by which you can be saved.

Hebrews 412 order got sharper than to extorting Ephesians 412 were to go for the equipping of the work of ministry okay and let folks can get regular weekly prophecy updates and hope for our for our also honored YouTube site same name on YouTube hope for time general to okay?

You said to me, and I found this interesting as you talked about examples of remnant believers from different dispensations. First, explain what a dispensation is and then give me some couple of illustrations dispensation is a period of time in which God requires some sort of action from his people so you give them some sort of responsibility in regard to sin or righteousness. And then there's was to to obey him in faith, and follow him do it. So, for example, dispensation of innocence there. When God created Adam and Eve, he put in the garden one responsibility only from true knowledge good and evil, and that was a rebel against God's will and every dispensation is a responsibility given by God as we find it every dispensation that group of people fails, and we are living in the dispensation of the church age, and quite honestly it's not a surprise to me that the church as a whole is not strong and vibrant because if every dispensation just shows our desperate need for God and no matter how we blesses his people.

There's still this propensity for us to be hardhearted and different in the drift from him. It was not surprising to me that were not doing very well as a church but had you look through each dispensation, there's always this remnant. This group of zealous followers of the living God. So you think about no one's family here is a dispensation they lived only eight of them, for heaven sake thing on the whole planet eggs and yet they built the ark hundred 20 years.

Talk about loneliness in using their kids with the school were lonely old word you and then afterwards I get off and I was only eight of them, and God says go and fill the earth and multiply you all the way through the Scriptures and you find this lonely group of people seeking God just last night. It was with the young couple. They were married six months are both about 26 years old and the reaching out to their college friends. One of their friends getting married in. They had dinner with them the other night and they start talking about spiritual things, and the girlfriend was listening and in the and the boyfriend of the fiancé. They invited him to church and you start laughing in the face and they were suffering for Jesus.

Alas, I just thank them.

Thank you for suffering for Jesus, thank you for pointing them to Christ, warning them about the consequences of sin and judgment coming in the Jesus is the way the truth like this hope in him.

Thank you for suffering for Jesus there.

Part of that believing zealous remnant for Jesus Christ and you give me another illustration of another dispensation. I love the story of Noah and his mice. I had a wonderful beloved caddie passed away real recently named. Now I may have an Elijah. Two.

By the way, that's who were talking about some of these characters. Another dispensation dispensation of law you think about Moses being sent by God, and the giving of the 10 Commandments, and so forth and you get to numbers 13.

They're about ready to enter the promised land. If entered in this new dispensation. They said God if you tell us what to do will do it give him 650 laws, roughly, they agreed to do it.get some to Cadiz cornea. After destroying Egypt after manna from heaven after waterfront rocks and spies go in and tell them say no don't go in God's not big enough. The giants are too big and yet there were two of those guys that when Caleb and Joshua and they come back as I now know God's big enough, go ahead, you know, and cc the Guinness believing remnant to the point you read their numbers. 13 they end up picking up rocks and they are going to kill Moses and Aaron and Caleb and Joshua. They were a believing remnant in the day back. So much so God killed all of that generation and use continue on through every group every generation, every dispensation there's this believing group that's zealous for God and I would suggest to you as you look into the New Testament exactly what we see that Paul says in Philippians chapter 3 to write the same thing to you again is not appropriate to safeguard for you and he warns them about the dogs of those who are of the false circumcision is a polygon in the start of the church at Philippi now is in prison and there's people coming in and distorting the gospel and he's trying to encourage them to follow Christ in the last part of chapter 3. You recall it says there the were looking for Jesus and eagerly awaiting his return to learn more, go to? Henry's website revived Brooklyn Park, not alert, revive Brooklyn Park.Oregon I ministered at a conference at your church show three years ago, Mark Seabrook and Parkey free at the time that you are there then that they had an interest in eschatology then and obviously now thinks he or influence they have a very serious interest in eschatology on the wrap up this discussion in just a couple minutes when I get back I have a closing segment. It's a short one that we will will cannot condense our thoughts as we cannot wrap up a discussion on the remnant church and remnant believers all sprang from my newsletter. I wrote couple of months ago sent it out to 60, 70,000 people. And boy did I get response saying you know what Jan I am one of those believers. I don't know where to go.

I am so alone I feel so isolated and is there anyone who possibly understands me. Thank you for what you wrote. Because now interest. I believe at least you understand there's just legions of people feeling this way will wrap this up in a couple minutes down the way. Join us for times next week. Jack continues her series with Tom Hughes and Mark Henry discussed the judgment of God.

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What I tell people's number. This Jesus grew up in Nazareth and went to a little synagogue, they probably have less than 50 people. It was a small synagogue and it wasn't a very probably not a really dynamic place and then he went down and worship in the temple and the temple was being run by a bunch of crooks.

We know with the Sadducees were like they were denying everything basically about the Bible and the running this thing than the Pharisees were there and had to break his heart but yet he was still there and that's the reason I'm still in ministry. I still believe the church remember this when we insult the church were insulting Jesus is setting the times radio continues with today's final segment once again, Jan Martel, welcome back. Remember, I offer a print newsletter and e-news letter I've been reading from the newsletter today so sign up online olive tree and I getting a CD of any program become a CD subscriber. If you'd like. And again. The program posted my website every Saturday olive tree and want to give too many websites but at the same time, I want you to get acquainted with pastor Tom Hughes and his hope for our where you'll find regular prophecy updates could many of you have written that that's what your heart's longing for is to better understand that the King is coming and how we can be excited about that and a lot more about Pastor Mark Pastor Mark as a prophecy conference next weekend I'll be one of the speakers, Pastor Tom Hughes that Saturday, March 24 9 AM to 4 PM revived church, Brooklyn Park, Pastor Mark, the address again 7849 W. Broadway, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, and that's 9 AM to 4 PM on Saturday and Sunday you are speaking I think on the rapture 3×910 11 AM, that's correct.

Even at the same message. 910 11 so they can pick one of those three pick one of those three, but my folks always tell you none of the sermons of sound after free will offering and lunch will be on your own folks.

Lots of area restaurants on CDs and DVDs about a month later and Tom and I will be there and Pastor Mark and I were going to be talking about the fact that the King is coming to Cussler you raise an issue during the break lighting to raise it on-air and let's deal with it since the 70s. Things have changed so much and that's what I came up as a Christian in the early 70s and back then the pastors really had messages that were more prophetic from the Scriptures, not something that was made up of their own imagination people like David Wilkerson and really created a certain sense of awe or fear in honor of God, which I don't find in today's pulpits as much. They speak as if God is our friend never is someone that we need to to fear as the judge do you gentlemen sense that in your ministries.

Do you think there's a change. Somehow, that is happened over the last 2030 years mail on Larry. I think that probably problem why certain things are addressed zero man is made, or fear of God beginning of wisdom and people pulpits are afraid of what people are going to say about their afraid to us and they're afraid that people will like them if they are not concerned about what God thinks. I can assure you the number one thing that drives me to to be in the pulpit but I fear God hear what they appear that I'm going to be accountable to him, and I mail it I want to do is right going to address those things but I Larry I think you hit the nail on the head. If men would fear God all the way from Washington down through the pulpit. Don't your leaders in schools we would do the right thing will be great awakening and are free to I go to a lot of churches around the country visiting and traveling and I find that there's a big seachange asked sociologists a sea change in the change that goes in a direction that will never return and everything I hear is all about the wonder of God, which is fine, but I never hear about the sin. The old hymns like that the blood will never lose its power and things and none of those things ever come into play when it comes to worship or even in preachy.

Well, if I could just read an email from a pastor's wife again going back to emails that I got as a result of writing about remnant church and remnant believers.

She says I am the pastor's wife at a remnant church near Ottawa, Canada. We have a wonderful small church's members understand the times, but we have trouble expanding because people here don't want to hear the truth of our times. Sure wish people who are looking for a remnant church could find us, that's Phyllis and she's near Ottawa, Canada.

Okay, the pastor's wife, Larry, whose heart is aching for some of the things that were talking about and you are a pastor for a lot of years to sell it. You experience some of this will absolutely our elders and leaders of the church wanted me to not get on topics that were controversial. Okay, honey. I've said this many times you and I was told repeatedly.

You're here to help build this church, you're here to bring the nickels and noses, get into the church and those kind of topics that you're talking about is divisive and you drive people away. I was chastised many times well I think you probably talk about some of the cultural issues. Perhaps I did it talked about homosexuality and I had more people email me and say I would be in barest if I brought my gay friend church, liking what you do it that you think gentlemen I want to go back to some of my questions I have here. Do you think that some of these folks that I've heard from you. Fred may read some of their emails. And here's another one. My husband and I are deftly remnant believers. Your article describes us and it is encouraging to know we're not alone.

We speak the truth we get blank. Strange looks even from family who profess to know Christ.

They think we are out in left field and again echoes the same sentiment you think Mark that some of these people are looking for perfection because they will never ever find it.

But I'm then answer the question.

I don't think they are. You know Tom and I pastor a long time between the two. As we got 60 years of experience and will both tell you that there are always people coming in the want of church that has everything that just like they wanted like like you went to a restaurant and you this is gotta be perfect.

This way all the restaurants will order different things, but you know when we come to a church it's filled with people on a journey, seeking Christ and what I trust to Chris in 1979 I didn't know Jesus as well as I know them today and see you have all these people at different levels and also you have tears with the Ouija member that the parable that Jesus gave such an important thing. I mean with were looking for a perfect church. What I tell people's member. This Jesus grew up in Nazareth and went to a little synagogue probably have less than 50 people. It was a small synagogue and it wasn't a very probably not a really dynamic place and then he went down and worship in the temple and the temple was being run by a bunch of crooks. We know what the Sadducees were like they were denying everything basically about the Bible and the run in this thing than the Pharisees were there and had to break his heart but yet he was still there and that's the reason I'm still in ministry. I still believe the church remember this when we insult the church were insulting Jesus is life, and if I insulted Tom's wife he probably punch windows and I just I just think we need very, very careful.

The church is what Jesus is building he promises to bill that is working to purify array using you if you're following Jesus you love the Scriptures love that pastor you got love the church. You might remember the story of Apollo's always comes to townies preaching and he's teaching the way of Jesus accurately, but only up to the baptism of John, and then a couple of people take them aside and instruct them in the way more fully on what a great example. You know they were to find that next 18 and I think I think that's the reason were were still the places we are use those opportunities to strengthen the body of Christ, Tom Hughes, do you think folks have you testing hypercritical looking for perfection. Some people are not everybody but you overlook hypercritical and thinking about heart still want to go terribly still taught in the synagogue on the synagogue in Capernaum, you can rest the issues with the Pharisees yields the delay Mama John chapter 5 and conflicted because he makes himself equal with God. But Jesus by the fear that their father blame. Going still continue to move forward. Really you only see the anger of Jesus come out a couple times, it was a simple but certainly the money changer issue for got fingered over. That was probably a fairly common site there in the temple area. So when you look at it.

Jesus was totally involved still teaching you will still ministering and he still love the people evil of the Pharisees and we know from the book about the Pharisees come to faith in him. Eventually one more email hear from Charlene. She says I'm sitting at my computer with tears in my eyes as I read your article on remnant believers. I totally relate to what you are describing. I sometimes feel like a total failure because I can't get my friends and family to listen let alone believe me when I tell them what's going on.

Thank you for the encouragement.

I love our Lord and will continue trying to touch people with his word of truth, and then the pastor writes and says that your remnant online newsletter encourage me so much as a remnant believer living in a remotely rural area where there is little fellowship. I have found myself feeling the same way as those reporting in your newsletter. Add to that I am in an ordained minister, 42 years and have felt isolation which comes from preaching and teaching prophecy from a dispensational Schofield viewpoint in the 1970s. This teaching was everywhere. Dave Wilkerson and many others I find solace in prayer time studies and fellowship with genuine believers when possible. And the Lord has been gracious to keep a platform for me to teach and preach the message of preparation and consecration for the days before us. This has been your best and most accurate newsletter in recent memory. And that's from Michael who is been a long time pastor feelings so very alone and I'm going to have you come back next weekend because we still got to get to pastor Tom Hughes new book America's coming judgment. Where is our hope and I were going to talk about that next week. If you both will come back as NOK of the great all right will limit kind of wrap up our programming today and now Jesus says in Matthew 16 that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church, but the enemy is trying nonetheless. He knows that the church represents believers who are pushing back against the darkness of our times. He knows the church is where people gather to be encouraged, inspired and built up in the faith, pray for our pastors and church leaders as they push back against the tide of evil rising trying to silence God's people and pastors. I want to thank you for listening and will talk you in God you and all and radio Jim Markel across America and across the World Wide Web to new to report prevents a biblical perspective, we can test comes to no cost.

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