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The Loneliness of the Remnant Believer

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The Loneliness of the Remnant Believer

Understanding The Times / Jan Markell

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If you are feeling alone out employees isolated. You may feel likely biblical nor and you may be a part of the remnant I can have two young generation. Right now, those who are between eight of the 15 and 35 they will listen to what they want to know if headlights work through the political think of my day is definitely a cultural thing that I want to know what going on was brave enough to theology after willing to reach that generation of people because they are out there. I can feel have a remarkable work within their own church. This is understanding the times radio with Jan Markel today to pastors were not afraid to be honest about the condition of the church Esther John Hughes from 412 church in California pastor Mark Henry from revive church in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota by chance to guess this our janitor panel pastors will be examining the remnant church and the reasons why the remnant church even exist in today's conversation here is Jan Markel. Welcome to the program say I'm going to be talking church related issues this hour with two pastors I've gotten to know Pastor Tom hears through his prophecy updates online. His books, and more will talk about one of his books, perhaps a little bit later he's pastor of 412 church at Calvary Chapel church in San Jacinto, California and joining the in studio is pastor Mark Henry from revive church in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota Twin Cities suburb. Some of you know that churches Brooklyn Park E free and they will join me in just well just a little bit later after I sort of set the stage to the topic of a remnant church and remnant believers. Now let me just say this first that I recently wrote an E newsletter and I titled it. Well, it's about remnant believers and and I just going to canna review what I wrote this went out to some 60 70,000 people who sign up for our E newsletter which you can do it olive and I asked in this article. If readers had ever heard of the word remnant and some people are called remnant believers. There are remnant churches, and perhaps you know of some who attend one of those remnant churches and I often say I do radio for the remnant. So I began to pay more attention to this term.

I got a couple of emails on a Regis asked a couple of lines from few emails and Benjamin wrote he said Jan I feel the remnant is getting smaller every day. As the time approaches for the Lord's return. The world seems to be getting darker and more evil. I know I'm not alone as a member of the body of Christ, but at times I feel so isolated I got another email from Patrice and she wrote I just read your newsletter and I want to thank you for your article on the remnant church.

She says you hit the nail on the head and everything you write about that church. I am experiencing Jesus I feel so alone and no one wants to discuss events of the day, and certainly not Bible prophecy or eschatology. If I mention these things, they shudder goes on. My husband and I are visiting churches and have not found one that addresses these issues.

Some in these churches have gotten angry and asked that I not come back.

They feel like crying when I leave. I tried to sit there, but I wonder why they never talk about what's going on what's happening in Israel or the intensifying birth pangs. Then I got another email from Carolyn my church has no excitement about prophetic fulfillment applicable for today when I bring up what I learned on your broadcast Jan, I am put down.

I am so lonely for like-minded believers.

Okay, so based on a lot of interactions including some people at my annual conference. I came up with kind of what is a remnant church and I might just give eight bullet points and then I'm going to read a couple more emails and then I want to bring on my pastors who are my guests for the rest of the programming remnant church is made up of people longing for a solid church and a pulpit that will address issues of the day, as well as the nearness of the Lord's return, a remnant believer wants a church that will not fear of offending with the truth and that certainly will confront apostasy. Now is point number two of what is a remnant, believer, or church remnant believers have offended friends and family.

Simply by telling them the truth of our times are for sharing information that is relevant to our times. This will often bring on mocking and scoffing at the least, it results in irritated indifference. This doesn't daunt a remnant believer and such a tragic response does not keep them quiet. Number three enthusiastic remnant believers will travel across town or across country to attend events that present information about which the church is silent.

Number four remnant believers often feel isolated, misunderstood, even though they have the truth, and the naysayers quite frankly are clueless. Number five members of the remnant church CR times darkening, but remain enthusiastic that this is but a herald of is coming. Not signs of doom and gloom number six when a remnant believer. Find someone who is of kindred spirit, frankly, is like discovering a gold mine number seven such believers often had a very solid church, but in many cases it went haywire a little leaven came in it ruin the whole loaf. Then they began a long journey of searching for a new church which may take years. In some cases, decades, and lastly very often these believers approach their church leadership to talk to them about these things but they are usually shut out so some who are of hearing this find themselves among the above mentioned bullet points and you also identified with the three emails that I read. Now let me just say a few more words because I'm trying to paint the picture here to set the stage before I bring some guests on got to thinking about the people who make quilts. Some of you know such folks and they use a wide variety of mismatched remnants and such professionals discard sections of fabric from garments that were no longer usable, but they were then sewn into an unbelievably elegant quilt that tossed aside remnant became an object of creativity and beauty.

So I want to say this if you are a remnant believer. Please take heart and remember that you two are a creative and colorful quilt in eternity may reveal that you broke through to more people than you ever thought you did remember that such mocking and scoffing are fulfilling some end time prophecies as well and that we are living in the most significant time in history, and the most prophecy fulfilling days and yet we are in the days with the least amount of interest in taking a lot of serious issues. Quite frankly, seriously people are perishing for lack of knowledge and who will tell them if you don't I hear what I'm to do here before I bring in my two guest pastors and want to read just a few more emails and I think some of you will identify with. For instance Christina out of Washington state it. She says going back to this item I wrote on the remnant church. This latest email.

This latest newsletter you sent out Jan has put words to my vague sense of loneliness and isolation. It seems like increasingly huge parts of Scripture are being ignored. Just last Sunday was announced that Wednesday night expositional teaching would be replaced by topical quote in order to be more relevant." There have been no more prophecy, updates, and she just goes on to say.

All I can say is I appreciate people like you have discovered JD Parag and others, and you have become my church. I've heard from oh I heard from so many people like I couldn't possibly read all the emails and other rights. Thank you for your article. My husband and I have been experiencing only you and your email have described. We have been scrutinized and our eldest son even attended the morning sessions of your 2016 conference with me to see what we were being taught then derided us for any mention of the world events are Bible prophecy. Those are all negative and he has shunned us and cut us off even over who we voted for another one rights after 24 years in the same church I am wandering from church to church trying to find this needed balance, but I direct everyone that has a brain to tune into your program and follow your daily news. Thank you for everything. Not sure where would be without you because I am so alone. Sandy writes, oh, how I needed this today. Thank you Jan, I thought I was all alone. Another one rights as for all the emails you got about how alone people feel, wow, do I know that feeling so well. Pam in Pennsylvania.

Okay, that sets the stage for a discussion. I'm going to have and I want to bring on the line from California pastor Tom Hughes 412 church San Jacinto California town welcome Jan and Pastor Mark Henry revived church, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota. He's in studio with me? Jim is going to be with you again.

Okay, where do we begin some questions to you two gentlemen, I want to start firing end of let's get some answers from you. You heard what I said anything I read they are talked about anything in the email I get more emails.

I will read any that surprise you? It surprises me effectively pastors conferences on a fairly regular basis and I find a lot of pastors are pretty lonely today. Are they really because you know you go, you go to a seminary and quite honestly, the seminary doesn't have classes anymore. Systematic theology.

Don't talk about eschatology, not dispensational.

They're having, you know that the reading that is typically taking place anymore with less and less Bible and more and more spiritual formation for all sorts of different okay interesting. Pastor Tom Hughes or someone wrote in the list of emails I have and I probably get to it eventually one of them wrote and said it is taken her 42 years and two countries to find a church, but she finally has. Does that surprise you but totally surprise me about a really long time. What Mark helped her talk with Dr. feel this way but would like to speak of "for example, there are always people that come up you and the other people you speak with Jim old people to multiply recruited churches long life. He wants me only you, whoever it may be become the church do not wait for your €43 really want to go through. Well the person who wrote me was very serious she was. Not being dramatic. She just said it literally took 42 years and two countries, but she finally has found a solid church pastor Mark Henry pastors have to preach the whole counsel.

We all know that every topic imaginable from marriage to finance you name it, but there are some issues that just won't be addressed.

These days, you've already suggested one eschatology I suggested one politics I suggested in other cultural issues, same-sex marriage, etc. and if one or more of these are of particular interest to somebody should a person leave a church over a single issue that may not be being preached from the pulpit. You know Jim, I was put people back there's five core Christian views that you have when you look at any church was a review of the Scripture as their view of Christ as he fully God, the Bible authoritative is Jesus fully God become flesh, the virgin birth. You have substitutionary death, bodily resurrection crucifixion of Christ. Justification by faith and everything builds from there is one on one talking to a pastor, I actually walk through those places with lots of pastors who don't believe those five core mailings so when you start to jump these other elements of theology comes back to my view of Scripture. If I don't have a very high view of Scripture when it comes to eschatology if it's gonna come out or social issues. But here's another problem seen with pastors and Tom I know you see it as well is that younger pastors have not seen older pastors address current issues and quite honestly, their flounder and how do I see you know these issues about homosexuality or abuse, geology, or whatever, how we do this, and honor God and walk through it and not just give you know just blown away or get scooter all the sorts of things and I think there's certain sums of courage.

I think the authors in the Bible, but also be mindful a lot of pastors are reading ancient literature and quite honestly, politics are in ancient literature and so trying to fuse that in my that's why Tom is so important. Other guys like Tom setting the pace and an example for younger pastors in our generation is really important to have that time you want to weigh into that agile hail not too long ago with pretty well-known Bible teacher but leaving the old cultural issues with the holder we were asked the question should I leave my church. If you're not teaching Bible prophecy. So we thought to the core elements can problem of what the church is built up. I will probably decode with Margaret about the model, but they have to go to really understand the seminary part. The primary thing of you sticking with Christ crucified, died Ruth in the gym were your solvation movement.

Everything goes from there. However, at the same time I felt Jim there's a lot of young men and young women that want to know how do they relate to the world they live in because things remove enough more accessible, we record not giving it primarily for not doing a lot of older churches. Believe it or not, because they have been modeled for them, but there's a lot of young people that are really hungry.

Unfortunately, their young people coming other seminaries that are teaching. I'm convinced that if a pastor will listen to the young generation rebels.

Those were between the ages of 15 and 35 they will listen to what they want to know how to sort through the political things of my day. Definitely a cultural thing really want to know what the world is going on. Which brings it eschatology if a pastors willing to reach that generation of people because their outfitter feel the remarkable work within their own church to be don't have to bring up Bible prophecy every single Sunday. What I do, but the learn to work it in the pastors willing to listen to what unchurched people and even young church people are looking for to review what you're missing, no stopping of movement well and I want to be clear that eschatology is is not really the focus of where it's very important and that's not the focus of this hour. However, having said that when I sent this e-news letter out this event couple months ago now says the replies indicated. You know, a lot of things are missing in my church. Or maybe just a few things are missing my church. But the thing that they want to emphasize Tom was but the thing that is closest to my heart that is missing is Bible prophecy even though that wasn't the emphasis of anything that's what came back to me. Lots of things might be missing and maybe the youth group is in the hottest or maybe this is the hottest thing is closest to my heart that the king is coming will not ever ever ever ever be addressed.

And then I would say I bond from church church to church. As you gentlemen have heard here's another email article today about feeling so alone and being unable to find the truth. Teaching church hit me right between the eyes and as that's been my situation for several years. I'm in the so-called Bible Belt. It can even find it through the teaching church and that's another word that kept coming through gentlemen is truth, truth, teaching and other Christians think I'm out of my mind as I believe what you believe it gets lonely being a remnant believer my dream for years now has been to attend one of your conferences. As I sat here at my computer, reading your email today I had a thought that up to now I never had before. I know the chances are nearly impossible unless God puts it together. Okay folks I'm gonna come back in just a couple minutes were going to continue our discussion and got in studio with me pastor Mark Henry from revived church in Brooklyn Park that is a suburb of Minneapolis, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, and that's for my broken part Ephraim pastor Tom Hughes part of the Calvary Chapel stream San Jacinto, California so I'm coming back in just a couple of minutes don't go away many things we do is to instruct and warn our listeners about the diverse activities of the church within many Western churches anyway spiritual discernment is dead.

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What are they and had so much response from remnant believers who feel so alone. Feel isolated.

Cannot find the church and I don't think any of them are looking for perfection but they just visited church to church and they seem to be marginalize these kinds of remnant on typical what they don't know it very well will be avoided, which is one if I think of what we are free to more than few much of people turned out to Jan Markel's conversation with pastors Tom Hughes and Mark and welcome back.

Remember, this program is post my website every Saturday morning olive tree' olive tree or you can go to one

You can sign up for their mobile app will be downloaded every Saturday to the app Now let me reset the stage by saying that I wrote in e-news letter a couple months ago now on the remnant church on remnant believers. What are they and had so much response from remnant believers who feel so alone. Feel isolated. Cannot find a church, and I don't think any of them are looking for perfection but they just visited church after church and they seem to be marginalize these kinds of remnant believers so I'm doing a program on it with two pastors one is pastor Tom Hughes 412 church San Jacinto, California. That's a Calvary Chapel and locally pastor Mark Henry revived church, Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, formally Brooklyn parking free. Just change the name and change the past, circus pastor Mark Henry. Your kind of new word new to the to the area. Work cited God's blessing, the church pastor Mark Henry were talking little bit during the break about the five points and you wanted to elaborate on something you said concerning those yet once once someone can establishing of the five core things Christianity, the authority of Scripture and the person work of Jesus Christ. The reality is if you teach the Bible.

Eschatology is the Bible to Jesus winning he's the Savior of our souls is the promised one in Genesis chapter 3 is the coming Savior and he's the King of Kings and Lord of lords, and so they are treasure with pastors all the time. You gotta teach the whole counsel of Scripture. You say you believe that every 20 doses or so in the New Testament come back to the second coming of Christ in some way and we just need to open her eyes and teach the Bible against Tom Hughes, you wrote an article about this. This is the year ago now and I don't have it in front of me but I did and E blast in e-news letter on your article because it was so profound. Can you summarize that in a while but I remember your teach on Bible college and there's a lot that are typical one of them know that they don't know it very well will be avoided, which is another one if I think of one year free, but the audience more than few much of people will be typing anymore. Will we live in a culture that in America were the better part of the pulpit spell or a really Jim about having your best life outright and not looking into eternity. We should be looking into eternity. I have found the opposite like JD Dudley Bible prophecy. Every Sunday night and give people the hope of looking for to Christ community input. Pastors are free to do it.

I think in the amount of empty pew things like that but I am also convinced of the gym.

If church will be willing to pastor be willing to teach him.

You think God will bring remnant believers will bring them to the church because they're the type you're looking for. That will draw the my life story and then we press forward and parked about fluently right of Joel Rosenberg that there's a plate with many prophecies of the second coming of Christ first coming in so many churches and a lot of them are solid in other parts of theology, but they completely avoid apology and told to say welcome to symbolic or spiritual life. The pathogen you eliminate your book Bible when you start doing you could preach Christ correctly. It's his first coming into second coming in who the person of Jesus Christ, which is the book of Revelation, the revelation of Jesus Christ leverage. Just another couple of emails here after she read my e-news letter again, this is many weeks ago.

Now how heartening to see that I am not weird nor alone in my yearning for a real church. This is Julia, not that I want to see anyone else. That way, but I it does speak to the culture of today and why I feel so alone and I know I'm not because of his words, but it is a temptation to think that I am standing by myself. Thank you so much for this article and for the encouragement that it brings. I think about our persecuted brothers and sisters and think they must feel terribly alone to nobody else writes, thank you for this e-news letter. Yes, this is so very true. Even in my little world in South Africa. I haven't attended church for three years for none of the churches in my town speak the truth.

Eschatology is a no go for three quarters of these churches rescued a gentleman a question. There is a verse obviously that I think all of us are familiar with found in Hebrews 1025 talked about not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together? Does that assembling of yourselves have to be a church. Look at that passage over the years. I think that's the natural reading of it.

If you read on in the in the following verses the following chapters.

It talks about elders and submitting the following their example, one in the them being a gift because I think that really is the overall context but you know God gives us individuals. Elijah felt all alone.

It was a one is a God of all alone is in the cave.

Jezebel trying to kill him.

She's tried to kill off all the prophets into things happen. One, he says Elijah there 7005 about the need to bail that's huge they do something else and he says no go anoint Elisha gives him one friend and you know God gives us graciously friends along the way to encourage her soul. Sometimes it's a radio. Some tests or tape pastor in a very remote place and guys would send me tapes. I would listen of back-and-forth before Fiala technology and we have the day.

What a blessing it was and I find that still would be a blessing.

I town what is your thought on Hebrews 1020 50 church however churches work two or more debit the name of Christ, so help those in the book of after you have ladies who are leaving for church service, small group, and you have a very small group in the New Testament so in verse 25 encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching. If you gotta find at least someone to meet with the other thing if we look at the church and what they were supposed to do when they gather to worship together. It does involve corporate worship and corporate learning of the word, so it might be two or three people together, but you really need to be in fellowship with. Gotta be somebody out there in your area.

We often hear stories of the missionary within the most remote part of the world or the personal commitment most remote part of the world know that God revealed to them through the creation, God sent them a missionary and I believe that remnant believers.

They might be thinking I'm all alone like Elijah did, but earnestly frameworks are made of one person and I think maybe a lot for me church which would be great, but sometimes it begins with that one person having that longing and then invented to benefit for you and you know they sort of a legitimate church service might become people might be 20 people, but you don't want to forsake the encouragement in the worship together as much as possible. Even a couple other people look at that passage. Definitely the churches in the New Testament were pretty small and as you even read the verse before about them assembling together talks about stimulating one another to love and good works, and so the importance of the body of Christ importance of a local church. But here's the thing.

Every generation finds churches. Churches of life span 80 or lifespan, and they move naturally to randomness and chaos and destruction. Everything our world is in our bodies getting older and wearing out things like that and so God raises up a new generation of people to start new churches and so forth. Vanessa resistor a couple churches in Colorado in the town that I started the church in order to go to a really good Bible believing church. A healthy, thriving church, you have to drive 125 miles to the east or you had to drive 45 miles to the west and we started a great church there and then we start another church. About an hour away in another church down the road and God raises up a new generation so the people listening to one of the things you might want to think about is contacting Tom's church there's there's a 412 association of more things were doing is helping start new churches that are vibrant and helping also churches turn around. Recently I had a showman contact me in his church had been in declining their looking for a pastor and it's you.

We need someone to teach the Bible again in all of the Bible including the book of Revelation self-worth in the Olivet discourse. They're just trying to revitalize their ministry again.

That's a healthy thing pastor Tom Hughes. You have done prophecy updates online for quite some time. I was I was privileged to be your TV guest here not too long ago and you just cannot rename to your website. Give it please would you hope. you in times TV now is hope for our times die, no Hanford there too many people complain okay hope to interest him. Mark talked about the church we now have five churches that are part of the 412 and that was to help strengthen them but to also teach premillennial doctrine came great and I look at the huge void that comes back to me. We like to encourage all the teach on the cultural issues deal with what we have before apology expect them to be of far long if I am at this point but to be premillennial in your doctrine and to not avoid the book of Revelation, and so forth. So maybe there's more churches like JD inspires a lot he does well this works. Well, that's Calvary Chapel string. The church is correct, we are four of them in our association or will reach up one of them not okay for 12 stands for wanted to explain what that stands for acts 412. Hebrews 412 in Ephesians 412 when disciple said acts 412. There is no other name under heaven by which you can be saved. Hebrews 412 boarded up sharply to exploring Ephesians 412 the word of God for the equipping of the work of ministry okay and let soak skin get regular weekly prophecy updates and hope for our for our also on YouTube site same name on YouTube hope for our time channel to okay?

You said to me, and I found this interesting as you talked about examples of remnant believers from different dispensations.

First, explain what a dispensation is and then give me some couple of illustrations dispensation is a period of time in which God requires some sort of action from his people so you give them some sort of responsibility in regard to center righteousness and the nurse was to to obey him in faith, and follow him and do so.

For example, dispensation of innocence there. When God created Adam and Eve you put in the garden one responsibility only from true knowledge good and evil, and that was a rebel against God's will and every dispensation is a responsibility given by God as we find it every dispensation that group of people fails, and we are living in the sensation of the church age, and quite honestly it's not a surprise to me that the church as a whole is not strong and vibrant because if every dispensation just shows our desperate need for God and no matter how we blesses us people.

There's still this propensity for us to be hardhearted and different in the drift from him. It's not surprising to me that were not doing very well as a church but as you look through each dispensation, there's always this remnant. This group of zealous followers of the living God. So you think one is family dispensation.

They lived only eight of them, for heaven sake thing on the whole planet eggs and yet they built the ark hundred 20 years. Talk about loneliness using their kids went to school were lonely you and then afterwards I get off now is only a woman gets is going fill the earth and multiply you all the way through the Scriptures and you find this lonely group of people seeking God just last night. It was with the young couple. They were married six months are both about 26 years old and the reaching out to their college friends.

One of their friends getting married in. They had dinner with them the other night and they start talking about spiritual things, and the girlfriend was listening and the boyfriend fiancé.

They invited him to church and you start laughing in the face and they were suffering for Jesus and Celeste. I just thank them. Thank you for suffering for Jesus, thank you for pointing them to Christ, warning them about the consequences of sin and judgment coming in the Jesus is the way the truth like this hope in him. Thank you for suffering for Jesus there. Part of that believing zealous remnant for Jesus Christ. Can you give me another illustration of another dispensation. I love the story of Noah and his knife. I had a wonderful beloved caddie passed away, but real recently name now and I have an Elijah. Two. By the way, that's who were talking about some of these characters. Another dispensation dispensation of law you think about Moses being sent by God, and the giving of the 10 Commandments, and so forth and you get to number 13.

They're about ready to enter the promised land is entered in this new dispensation. They said God if you tell us what to do will do it by give him 650 laws, roughly, they agreed to do it.get some Decatur Sarnia after destroying Egypt after manna from heaven after waterfront rocks and spies go in and tell them say no don't go in God's not big enough. The giants are too big and yet there were two of those guys that when Caleb and Joshua and they come back as God's big enough, go ahead, you know, and cc the Guinness believing remnant to the point if you read there a number 13 bayonet picking up rocks and they are going to kill Moses and Aaron and Caleb and Joshua.

They were believing remnant in the day back. So much so God killed all of that generation and use continue on through every group every generation, every dispensation versus believing group that's zealous for God and I would suggest to you as you look into the New Testament exactly what we see that Paul says in Philippians chapter 3 to write the same thing to you again is not appropriate to safeguard for you and he warns them about the dogs of those who are of the false circumcision is a polygon in the start of the church at Philippi now is in prison and there's people coming in and distorting the gospel and he's trying to encourage them to follow Christ in the last part of chapter 3 recall it says there that were looking for Jesus and eagerly awaiting his return to learn more, go to? Henry's website revive Brooklyn Park, not alert, revive Brooklyn Park.Oregon I ministered at a conference at your church show three years ago Mark Seabrook and Parkey free at the time that you were there. Then they had an interest in eschatology then and obviously now thinks he or influence they have a very serious interest in eschatology. I'm in a wrap up this discussion in just a couple minutes when I get back I have a closing segment. It's a short one that we will will cannot condense our thoughts as we can. A wrap up discussion on the remnant church and remnant believers all sprang from my newsletter. I wrote couple months ago sanded out to 60, 70,000 people. And boy did I get response saying you know what Jan I am one of those believers. I don't know where to go.

I am so alone I feel so isolated and is there anyone who possibly understands me.

Thank you for what you wrote. I believe at least you understand there's just legions of people feeling this way will wrap this up in a couple of minutes don't go away.

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Learn more about this ministry is all of trees used a large website to find the many ways we have standard times in which we live. Both audio and video recordings of our most recent understand the science conference are ready to ship to you order your conference CDs or DVDs visit all three or phone 763-5544 44 your charitable gifts make it possible for us to continue producing and caring concerning programs on your hearing today member we are listener supported your health every week to keep this kind of program and coming your way, please send your tax-deductible gifts to all of the stories. Box 1452, Grove, MN 55311 marginal returns right after this short timeout time 2018 here with my friend Tim to come all the way from Iowa and Tina from Vancouver, Canada.

I am Jennifer and Frerotte Darlene from New Jersey with some friends from Detroit I'm from the great state of Texas.

Brandon is this the first time you been here several times how many times if you been to the government. You're all the way from Switzerland Switzerland to Minnesota. Many people which have no you got up early this morning to be here.

What compelled you just succumb to Jan's conference to hear Jan and the wonderful speakers that she brings in every year to put the book of revelations into contemporary times been following Xander about the theater for such a blessing.

Very informative. What's going on in our world way biblical lands why are you a prophecy conference.

I think it's really important for us now to learn about prophecy to see how God throughout the Bible, and it's just a joy to see that people are saying the importance of enzymes study in eschatology one third of the Bible is prophecy and masters these days don't really want to touch on that first time.

20. We expect about the Bible last year to me what God is doing around the world keeps me updated on the days biblically in the world.

The biggest thing is been with over 6000 people learning about the end times and just being of like mind.

He is a true, honest and it's important to see that what he says he will do so we can follow him with every step that we take waiting for a little bit more how the Bible are being robbed and they are sleeping that I really believe will hear from friends and all. I think a lot of Christians get way because they're not certain what the Bible says on things. I think also tend to influence more than the Bible. Jack gives the message in a way that is understandable. That is real courage stand on the gospel in white.

Zamir said brings this book to life is very clear and he's a great storyteller. I love without Christ you have no peace.

And so it's always important for us to be sharing the gospel message. Maryann and Katie. We realize we need to find a church Bible taught the Bible and we got excited in about how blessed hope is and how soon we may all see arcane Jesus is coming.

It's a huge theme in the Bible for Israel and he's coming for the church. We notice around next year 2019. Looking for perfect church. What I tell people's member. This Jesus grew up in Nazareth and went to a little synagogue probably have less than 50 people. It was a small synagogue wasn't a very probably not a really dynamic place and then he went down and worship in the temple and the temple was being run by a bunch of crooks. We know with the Sadducees were like they were denying everything basically about the Bible and the running this thing and the Pharisees were there and had to break his heart but yet he was still there and that's the reason I'm still in ministry. I still believe the church remember this when we insult the church were insulting Jesus is setting a times radio continues with today's final segment once again, Jan Markel, welcome back.

Whenever I offer a print newsletter and E newsletter. I've been reading from the newsletter today so sign up online and become a CD subscriber. If you'd like. And again. The program posted my website every Saturday olive tree and I want to give to many websites but at the same time, I want you to get acquainted with pastor Tom Hughes and his hope for our where you'll find regular prophecy updates could many of you have written that that's what your heart's longing for is to better understand that the king is coming and how we can be excited about that and a lot more about Pastor Mark Henriette revived Brooklyn let me cut so you raise an issue during the break lighting to raise it on-air and let's deal with it since the 70s. Things have changed so much and that's what I came up as a Christian in the early 70s and back then the pastors really had messages that were more prophetic from the Scriptures, not something that was made up of their own imagination people like David Wilkerson really created a certain sense of awe or fear in honor of God, which I don't find in today's pulpits as much.

They speak as if God is our friend never is someone that we need to to fear as a judge.

Do you gentlemen sense that in your ministries.

Do you think there's a change. Somehow, that is happened over the last 2030 years, Larry.

I think that probably problem why certain things are addressed here.

Man is Mayor here with them and people pulpits are afraid of what people say about their afraid to stand there afraid that people will like them and they are not concerned about what God thinks.

I can assure you the number one thing that drives me to do beautiful. I fear God, hear what I'm going to say if you're going to be accountable to him and mala I want to do it right so I'm going to address those things but I Larry I think you hit the nail on the head. If men would fear God all the way from Washington down through the pulpit got your leaders in school we would do the right thing to be great awakening to go to a lot of churches around the country visiting and traveling and I find that there's a big see changing sociologists a sea change in the change that goes in the direction that will never return and everything I hear is all about the wonder of God, which is fine, but I never hear about the sin that the old hymns like that the blood will never lose its power and things and those things ever come into play when it comes to worship or even in preaching. Well, if I could just read an email from a pastor's wife again going back to emails that I got as a result of writing about remnant church and remnant believers. She says I am the pastor's wife at a remnant church near Ottawa, Canada. We have a wonderful small church's members understand the times that we have trouble expanding because people here don't want to hear the truth of our times. Sure wish people who are looking for a remnant church could find us, that's Phyllis and she's near Ottawa, Canada. Okay pastor's wife, Larry, whose heart is aching for some of the things that were talking about and you are a pastor for a lot of years to sell it. You experience some of this will absolutely our elders and leaders of the church wanted me to not get on topics that were kind of racial okay having. I've said this many times and I was told repeatedly. You're here to help build this church, you're here to bring the nickels and noses into the church and those kind of topics that you're talking about is divisive and you drive people away.

I was chastised many times what I think you probably talked about some of the cultural issues. Perhaps I did it talked about homosexuality and I had more people email me and say I would be in barest if I brought my gay friend church talking what you do you think gentlemen I want to go back to some of my questions I have here. Do you think that some of these folks that I've heard from you heard me read some of their emails.

And here's another one. My husband and I are definitely remnant believers are article describes us and it is encouraging to know we're not alone. We speak the truth we get blank. Strange looks even from family who profess to know Christ. They think we are out in left field and again echoes the same sentiment you think Mark that some of these people are looking for perfection because they will never ever find it. But I'm then answer that question. I don't think they are. You know Tom and I pastor long time between the two of us we get 60 years of experience and will both tell you that there are always people coming in the want to church that has everything that just like they wanted like like you went to a restaurant and you this is gotta be perfect.

This way all the restaurants will order different things, but you know when we come to a church it's filled with people on a journey, seeking Christ and what I trusted Chris 1979 I didn't know Jesus as well as I know them today and so you have all these people at different levels and also you have peers with the Ouija member, the parable that Jesus gave such an important thing. I mean if you're looking for a perfect church like the People's member. This Jesus grew up in Nazareth and went to a little synagogue probably had less than 50 people. It was a small synagogue and it wasn't a very probably not a really dynamic place and then he went down worship in the temple and the temple was being run by a bunch of crooks. We know with the Sadducees were like they were denying everything basically about the Bible and the running this thing than the Pharisees were there and had to break his heart but yet he was still there and that's the reason I'm still in ministry.

I still believe the church remember this when we insult the church were insulting Jesus is life, and if I insulted Tom's wife, you probably punch me notes and I just I just think we need very, very careful. The church is what Jesus is building he promises the bill that he's working to purify he's using you. If you're following Jesus you love the Scriptures love that pastor you got love that church. You might remember the story of Apollo's always comes to townies preaching and he's teaching the way of Jesus accurately, but only up to the baptism of John, and then a couple of people take them aside and instruct him in the way more fully on what a great example. You know they were. You find that next 18 and I think that's the reason were were still the places we are use those opportunities to strengthen the body of Christ, Tom Hughes, do you think folks have you just being hypercritical looking for perfection. Some people are not everybody but a little hypercritical and thinking about Mark still went to a couple he still wouldn't talk to God synagogue in Capernaum, you can rest the issues with the Pharisees yields the delay Mama John chapter 5 conflicted because he made himself equal with God. But Jesus father blame. Going still continue to move forward. Really you only see the anger of Jesus come out a couple of times, it was a simple but certainly the money changer issue got angered over that was probably a fairly common site there in the temple area.

So when you look at it. Jesus was totally involved still teaching. He was still ministering and he still love the people evil of the Pharisees and we know from the back of the Pharisees come to faith in him. Actually one more email hear from Charlene.

She says I'm sitting at my computer with tears in my eyes as I read your article on remnant believers. I totally relate to what you are describing is sometimes feel like a total failure because I can't get my friends and family to listen let alone believe me when I tell them what's going on.

Thank you for the encouragement. I love our Lord and will continue trying to touch people with his word of truth, and then the pastor writes and says that your remnant online newsletter encouraged me so much as a remnant believer living in a remotely rural area where there is little fellowship. I have found myself feeling the same way as those reporting in your newsletter. Add to that I am in an ordained minister, 42 years and have felt isolation which comes from preaching and teaching prophecy from a dispensational Schofield viewpoint in the 1970s. This teaching was everywhere. Dave Wilkerson and many others I find solace in prayer time studies and fellowship with genuine believers when possible. And the Lord has been gracious to keep a platform for me to teach and preach the message of preparation and consecration for the days before us. This has been your best and most accurate newsletter in recent memory. And that's from Michael who is been a long time pastor feelings so very alone will let me kind of wrap up our programming today and now Jesus says in Matthew 16 that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church, but the enemy is trying nonetheless. He knows that the church represents believers who are pushing back against the darkness of our times. He knows the church is where people gather to be encouraged, inspired and built up in the faith, pray for our pastors and church leaders as they push back against the tide of evil rising trying to silence God's people and pastors. I want to thank you for listening and will talk to you and God you and all in radio Jim Markel across America and across the wide web to new to report a biblical perspective, we can test comes to know because cost us thousands of dollars to produce industry business weekly media outreach to consider standing with us ever changing world minimum of faith on to be aware of current events is the lens of Scripture, week after week Jim Markel telling our pulling out the dangers in today's culture, hope and faith in Jesus Christ rescue you to join us in supporting partner gifts to all of three ministries 1452 Grosvenor soda 55311 is also welcome all of your life. 076-3559 project global updates will view yours around the clock all through the we look forward to hearing from you soon appreciate your continued prayer support team Markel returns next week with another information is for our side

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