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When Your Church Awakens to Wokeness

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July 23, 2021 8:00 am

When Your Church Awakens to Wokeness

Understanding The Times / Jan Markell

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July 23, 2021 8:00 am

Jan Markell spends the hour with Pastor Brandon Holthaus. When many people returned to their church post-pandemic, they found it unrecognizable. Wokism may be the worst form of end-time apostasy and it has consumed today’s church. Remnant believers feel lost in a sea of dysfunctional churches. What are the things to look for to see if your church, Bible school, or seminary has drunk the woke Kool-Aid. How can you contend for the faith?

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There is one sure indicator that the hour is late and is the state of the church. The warnings of apostasy in the Bible are typically two believers go to come to faith in Christ and lowered the parting from the faith. So that's what you see.

The five warnings. The book is if you look at five warnings and he's talking to believers who are getting ready to depart welcome to understanding the times radio with Jan Markel radio for the remnant brought to you by Apollo tree ministries today. Jan visits with Pastor Brandon whole house about the great end time falling away from biblical truth. Many are watching the church today drift into apostasy as well as devour the flock, Christ died for the church and he wants it to be the salt and light of the last days.

Here is today's program so many churches are checked out.

They have no clue what's happening and when the lowest prophetic events that are converging most of the churches sleeping.

I call him zombies Christian zombies dining night of the living dead so to speak. They're saying they got their fire insurance but man they are Leo the sand out. They are clueless in different apathetic and asleep and it's so frustrating sometimes. As the remnant the Philadelphia element sees all of this. Sometimes what we say falls on deaf ears man but there is a remnant that listens that here's as wanting to know what in the world's going on because all the things point to the sign that the soon return of the Messiah for his church is coming soon so that you can join me for the hour. That was a little tease to indicate where were going for the hour and folks what did you expect the last church before the rapture to look like the Bible says over and over in the New Testament sell many verses that apostasy will characterize that last church before the rapture that it will be characterized by wolves among the flock doctrines of demons. Let me just give a couple of verses here. There are so many I could give dozens. First Timothy 41, but the Spirit explicitly says that in the latter times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons so falling away from the faith. Christians falling away from sound doctrine. Second Timothy four for the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear it will turn their ears away from truth and turn aside to myths or fables and then that classic verse in second Thessalonians 2 that says that a great falling away or apostasy will take place right before the man of lawlessness or the Antichrist is revealed. And by the way that falling away in second Thessalonians 2 is the apostasy. It is not the rapture, folks, please don't buy into that is the apostasy in Laodicea. There was a church that was neither hot nor cold. It was merely lukewarm and kind wanted to spit them out as this church was so distasteful to him. It was a church that compromised. It certainly had no love for the truth in the Bible says that will be the last days church. Now I get so many emails telling me that a once solid church and particularly pre-Corona pandemic and then that church closed for months or even a year and some might still be closed. But when folks returned to it months later or a year later, it was unrecognizable what happened here is one email Jan, I have been a member of my church for 12 years. While no church is perfect mine address the issues of the day was a staunch supporter of Israel and even would address eschatology from the pulpit, though not as often as I might have liked the church closed for almost a year and when I returned, I didn't recognize it. The writer goes on to say. I think they awakened to Waukomis. Although I'm not sure what that means. The only current events that have been addressed in recent months had everything to do with rice and white supremacy.

Even obviously, I'm looking for a new church home and I am heartbroken. So many are walking through a nightmare as they realize their church has been waking up to woke is him and it is frankly heresy now.

One more item and that are referred to an article in Christianity today. Read two paragraphs woke is him is far more dangerous than secularism.

The writer says woke is him which some call the new religion of our day is entirely incompatible with Christian values and left unchecked will undermine the foundation of American society. If that sounds hyperbolic, we fail to acknowledge that it's very purpose is to do just that originating out of critical theory or critical race theory woke is him challenges existing power structures and seeks to dismantle what we see as universal truth, major corporations, politicians, mainstream media are capitulating to these demands so they remain relevant and avoid the persecution that comes from resistance.

But somehow churches signed on to this new Waukomis in the last year to year and 1/2 as they compete to become relevant. The article concludes woke is him is far more effective than secularism ever could be, because it feels that God shaped hole in our culture it claims its own interpretation of justice, righteousness and sin woke is him. At its core wants a war against God and everything he stands for. I hope that adequately sets the stage for the next several minutes that I have with my very special guest and I'm going to be playing some sound clips throughout the program to reemphasize what Pastor Brandon whole house and I are talking about Pastor Brandon.

Welcome back to the program. They threaten me again. We need to clarify here before we get rolling for the hour that all right. I've introduced here at some churches have gone really, really haywire. Actually, for years, but even more so in the last year, but that there is a remnant of churches and obviously a remnant of believers that are staying the truth course. Let's say that they are standing up for the truth even though they might be in the minority, absolutely. The Lord said about the church at the gates of hell wouldn't prevail, and he was specifically talking about that remnant element and were seeing that the thing about the women that element for America remnant it here but they're all spread out, they feel isolated, their church has betrayed them.

The pastor has betrayed them and went woke whereas when apostate. There is that believing Elmont and its worldwide no doubt that but it's of smaller elements. If you look at the seams of the Bible, the remnant of Israel were the remnant of the church is always a smaller element that holds fast to the truth but were finding now in the digital apostasy that that remnant is pretty small and there are remnant churches, but there are very few churches that you will find that or that Philadelphia element you is as you said in a message I watched appears online that we've watched the wolves among the flocks here for years and years and years. But in the last five years. And let's say, even in the last one year. At first it was exponential but now when it comes to the doctrine of demons that seems to be flourishing. We can't keep up.

It's happening every hour.

Not every week or month. Yeah. And I think that verified exactly what the Scripture said would happen.

You and I talked fair about this that when I first started ministry 20 years ago we would have a thing.

Maybe once a month every two months of heresy would pop up today.

It's like three or four things at a in the Colts. From what I understand the last that I looked there were 75 new types of cults that start per month. I can't keep up with it. People asked me would you hear about this guy or that guy man I came keep him were now starting to see what Paul was talking about this apostasy would consume the entire church. Again, I could've introduced the program talking about this new woke movement and course.

Corporate America has been racing towards the Coca-Cola Delta Air Lines and others we been watching that happen, but it's now entering the church. Here's a few ways it's entering the church and please expand on my thoughts. But folks are going to start hearing words in their church about equity, tolerance, diversity, black lives matter. Critical race theory, social justice, I want to play or clipper to in just a minute, what would you add to that brand. In other words, when they suddenly returned to church and there's a new atmosphere in the church what's going on and what should people be looking for those catchphrases.

Now you're seeing the corporate fascism that the corporations are pushing the things of environment, social responsibility, social sustainability and diversity ballot incorporated into the church there several things to explain that some of the pastors are completely ignorant about this.

They put their finger in the wind and see which way the fats are going and they just go with the trends then there's pastors that actually have been revealed to be false teachers. They been hiding their wolves in sheep's clothing. Like you mentioned.

Now they feel empowered to come out and say what they want to say we've seen that from the Corporation were seen in the church because of a holding back from these pastors. They have been proven to be flat out liberal leftist liberation theology painters so there's that element and then some of them are in the pastorate for an alternative reason.

They may have gotten into the ministry for good reasons, but they get caught up in the Nichols and noses are and what happens is the adoptable church growth model that church growth model allows in the grow big and have a lot of money. It came from Rick Warren.

It came from Ohio both and that model teaches the pastor that he want to grow your church big.

Anyone have a lot of money and don't say anything controversial. In fact, go with the current trends and speak that language and you won't offend anybody.

Some of them are doing that for Nichols and those raters that element. It could be one of those many types of things.

Ignorance, it was a hidden theology that they always had orders Nichols and those with that's what this last year revealed.

I agree and I want to play little click here to complement what you just said happens to be Jeff Kinley and he's author's written lot on apostasy in the church is on Dave Reagan's Christ in prophecy TV show here recently in this little clip is backing up what you're saying is that too many churches today. It's a light and sound show followed by a Ted talk within the church itself to me the title of our program today. Apostasy in the church. How big a problem is this submit is it an individual Christian problem or is a corporate problem were churches are drifting at an accelerating rate. Would you say in today's day and age. So I agree I think it's more of a corporate thing more of a global thing actually because people in churches are really opting for expediency is what's happening as we seen a huge decrease in church attendance, specifically in America, so that since many pastors in a panic mode. Sam we've got to do whatever it takes to get people into this building is so going out being salt and light with the Bible tells us to do is most single verse in the Bible tells a non-Christian, church, but there are lots of verses that tell Christians going to the world we got backwards, we think that there's an event that we put on Sunday mornings. We gotta make it so exciting, so entertaining, so interesting that will get people drawn him. So what's happened is as you said in the beginning we begin to compromise some of the values and scriptural truths we see in the Bible as doctoral crews. In order for the expediency of getting people in the building. Notice to, and church services. Just as I got older I realize we shifted from being Bible basin faith-based to being with the call seeker sensitive and were all seeking unbelievers to come to Christ but us like we turned our church service as a equipping edifying and sending organization to send Christians out the let's go to a one-to-one level invite nonbelievers and and hope they get saved and that rarely ever happens, and it seems like since we've adopted the seeker sensitive movement we've drifted away from mainstream Christianity. Would you agree, I would agree and must be honest when we love technology we use technology. It's a great tool but as one pastor recently said many churches today are nothing more than a light and rock show followed by a Ted talk is something really good just motivate people for their daily life, thing. When the Bible is much deeper than that. The Bible equips us and gives us everything we need for life and for godliness. Peter wrote and pastors are opting for entertainment more. Instead of equipping the saints for the work of service, and what's a result of that were tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. You're listening to understand the times radio Jan Markel here. I have on the line from Southern California pastor Brandon Holt house you can reach him at Rock Harbor Church in Bakersfield California that's Rock Harbor Church.net Rock Harbor Church.net. He has a great online presence whole lot of places from YouTube to video to rumble best place to find those links is at his website. Rock Harbor Church.net. I had the privilege of meeting the good people of Rock Harbor church about a year ago actually ministered unto occasions and Brandon I want to expand on one thing here. I don't want to get out of our purview quite yet and I want you to comment and then I want to play short clip after we discuss it here, but that's this critical race theory who ever would've thought.

Let's say five years ago. Even maybe three years ago. Obviously the George Floyd incident that happened less than 1/2 an hour from where my studio is in May 2020 triggered a lot of this critical race theory wants to destroy abolish everything we've known focus on race, race, race, I would say focus on defeating capitalism, selling massive division. How did he get in the church and Brandon also the seminary and also the Bible schools. It started decades ago in the 40s. The Frankfurt school, came over here settled in Columbia University and then started working to overthrow America politically. The Marxist tried class warfare in America and it didn't work. So what they did is they change their game.

They harped on race being the divisive element that they would use to divide our country and bring it down hints out of critical theory comes critical race theory. So it's thoroughly brainchild of Marxism so we can start infiltrating. They knew they had to get into the academic media and any political element, and they've done that, but the last element they knew they had to get to with the church because the church keeps people in a situation of opposition to what they're pushing so they start infiltrating the church. How did they do that they went through the Fountainhead that produced pastors. They went to the seminary got these guys who were liberal got them in places of teaching in the seminary and all of a sudden our seminaries were taken over, and in this kind of theology started coming out that produced the pastor and that pastor would go out and take over a church and then before you know it. He would influence the church in that particular way. So it's been several decades of this going on, but now it really taken root in the churches in the southern Baptist have been destroyed by it and other denominations as well. They started with the key understanding got to hit the Fountainhead, and if you get the seminaries in the Bible schools and you can take the churches and that's exactly what they did.

That's why we shouldn't be shocked when somebody's pastors get up there and say we need to apologize for white privilege that has been going on for decades. I am a victim not a perpetrator I want to play clip here. It's a little clip from Fox News, but it's featuring a college that many of you know the Northwestern College in St. Paul, Minnesota. They've got critical race theory going on there and the students. Some of them are pushing back to students from the University of Northwestern St. Paul, Minnesota are calling on their faith-based school to turn away from critical race theory by launching a petition to warn their community about what they say are deceptive concepts taught in the curriculum dress right now to the people behind the petition, University of Northwestern St. Paul student Joshua sealant and recent graduate Haley cheddar. Both are correspondence for campus reformed one or both of you Haley. Let's start with you. The petition calls on University to turn away from the falsehood that is critical race theory explain what that means. As Christians we believe that our call is to share the gospel and we firmly believe that critical race theory is an debacle that preaches a different gospel we lower school are deeply concerned the integrity of any integrity. Murphy preserves letter how to private letters written by alumni and parents and current students who were also concerned really happens. Joshua I think you get something like 2300 signatures on the petition. So far, the president of the University, says he doesn't agree with the petition but recognizes your right to express your view, what exactly have you noticed in your classes that suggested critical race theory as part of the curriculum. There's been a handful of classes where critical race theory and those ideas have been pushed directly. It's been very discouraging to see part of some of these classes where ideas like white supremacy and white guilt stands implicit bias have been taught, and propagated as biblical truth. Ultimately Joshua which are seen in the petition is CRT critical race theory just does not line up with the values the Judeo-Christian values taught at your school.

So why are they doing. I think it's just a part of the cultural trend ends.

It's sad to see that there's succumbing to those pressures of culture Haley, you recently graduated, have you noticed that it is gotten worse in the last year or as it's been something going on on your campus for a while. I was only gotten worse in the last year, which is how some of the racial tensions have been heightened. It's really difficult and as Christians we believe that everyone is many guys and we need to in manner and I don't believe that critical race theory reflects that. It's really discouraging to see Christian school. Do this in other schools in secular schools but at a private Christian university is very discouraging. Sure, Joshua. You and Haley both feel very strongly about this, but how many other kids on campus feel your way are politically aligned on your side you been a sizable response on campus. The been the -ones calling us races West premises, but there has been a positive response as well from students there been a couple who really stuck with us and, help us through music and in some faculty that have reached out to us and said hey we agree with everything that you guys are saying and we agree with everything in your letter, but if I speak out. I will lose my job and that's really been sassy so they're worried they would be canceled, but we didn't cancel you either want to hear your story. Haley and Joshua, thank you very much for joining us today. Good luck to both of some spending the hour talking that some of the more subversive things that have crept into the church. The Bible schools the seminaries Brandon Holt house and he is my guest for the hour from Bakersfield, California your thoughts to that little clip there explaining exactly what happened there universities or colleges have been infiltrated by the so you're right if they speak out against it, and I heard them say you're going to be canceled or been fired that the tactic of Marxism were receiving this cancel culture thing it's happened to you in A diminutive counsel both on our platform. If you go against this narrative by these elites that are being perpetrated into our society. You're the bad guy and we've got to get rid of you. So that's why were seeing the erosion of free speech and erosion of freedom of religion.

Because of this, those students were exactly right. And the problem is at the top there being land by those types of individuals in these young people were part of University here locally in the Twin Cities that has been solid as a rock for decades and decades. Perhaps it's the George Floyd incident, but as we opened the program now were seeing the stories break in the news. The apostasy is growing, not just on a weekly basis but hourly. We can't keep up. This is just an illustration of that again. The words diversity, equity, tolerance, critical race, black lives matter social justice things that we did not focus on five years ago.

Now we are obsessing on something happened last year. Janitors want to go out on a limb young and give my opinion. We all know that possibly supposed to happen but Laster somehow became a catalyst for this to put it in warp speed, and I think what last year did is it gave those who were hidden apostates hidden false teachers in our colleges, universities in our seminaries, even our churches. It gave them the boldness to come out and spoke culture was all doing it. Okay, I can now come out of the closet with my critical race theory are really what I always believed which is liberation theology and no one can push back on me because the culture supports me.

I call it the great revealing last year or the separation it revealed these people I think in these churches and seminaries who they really were. We talk about that on a political level like with Donald Trump. We talk about. You revealed the swamp will there's a swap in Christianity. Here's the thing Brandon I think we've always assumed the swamp would be the religious left, not the world, and evangelicalism. And that's been the shocking thing to me, not just in the last year, perhaps in the last 20 years but growing exponentially. For instance I have in front of me. From the Christian Post the world Evangelical alliance and the national Association of Evangelicals have come out calling for get this folks, I wouldn't you think it be about preaching the gospel. No solar panels could be coming soon to a church near you through a campaign project so and so world Evangelical alliance has set out to get 20% of its members to convert fully to clean energy by 2025, then the national Association of Evangelicals says Christians should be at the forefront of efforts to reduce air pollution and greenhouse gases, says Galen Carey of the national Association of Evangelicals.

We also know that these efforts will particularly benefit our most vulnerable neighbors. Those whose health and livelihoods most directly depend on clean air Brandon. What does this have to do with the gospel. I would expect this from the religious left, but the fact that Evangelicals are now caving to every leftist cause. The Bible predicts this kind of end time falling away. It's still shocking.

It is because what they're promoting is save the planet, type of mentality that cultural focus that comes from the world economic forum there adopting what I call Babylonian is a different religion is the religion of Babylon in the Bible is called lawlessness. It doesn't mean that people run around with anarchy. It means that people are adopting the Babylonian system of morals and ethics.

That's what saving the planet is is why the guys pushing solar panels. Pretty soon the church is going to be pushing don't eat meat.

Yes, I write another issue here. I Holt warned about that eventually there in a push that so these people and maybe we considered them solid, but what it showed was they were able to be deceived. Now they've adopted a call at 180 is him because that's what lawlessness is. If God says something is right, they say it's wrong, and vice versa, and its the opposite of what the Bible says in Genesis 822 says we were not to be able to affect the season hot and cold rain on us that to know what don't these pastors know that that's a promise in Scripture. Apparently not. They have been woke they been deceived at the end of it. Satan has deceived them and so that's why your spiritual element to this that we can't overlook close let me make one quick announcement here. I want to give a heads up about the behold he comes conference this fall. Calvary Chapel Chino Hills that Saturday, September 11. I want to clarify that all seats are taken now, but they are offering a lifestream package of all speakers, special interviews, backstage conversation and more and that's just five dollars and here's where you need to go, behold, he comes.org behold, he comes down to work. Don't call Olive tree because I've passed the time of our conference to pastor Jack Hibbs speakers will be pastor Jack Amir certifying Pastor Barry Stagner.

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The church is not responsible to solve social ills that were in a solvent in poverty. That's what Mark's essay is rated as I know said you always have with you what I've noticed is that theological construct of building the kingdom actually matches the market utopia of building their kingdom.

We know you can't always be via radio. Just remember that our programming is posted to our website includes audio and video formats go to follow three views.org that's follow three views.org amendment to radio also find us on YouTube. Rumbled light source is channel here are Jim R Kelly pastor Brandon whole house this one world religion what were talking about. That's for me to notice tell people or say look, guys, we just need to drop our theological differencing come together, come together don't you drop your theological standings.

Joel leaves the Bible because they're saying look your device if if you won't unite against common cause issues that fine call me divisive. I will be divisive then if it means standing for the truth. I'm not to let Jesus as word go see that's the push now cancel You notice this, that you never do a search for church say you moved to an area and you see a church that looks promising, and you go to it that website and remained there theological statement the way you can find this out of where they stand on theology is how deep or in depth there theological statement is if it's like this. We love Jesus and that's it. Rest assured that as a church that it's rocking there theological distinctives and doing a Kumbaya kind of thing were all coming under that umbrella of unity, welcome back.

That's kind of what we've been talking about this hour and will continue as we wrapping up here and that is not doing you find a solid church working to get into that here. I think almost immediately, but I've been talking for the first part of the program with pastor Brandon whole Taos he's in Bakersfield California Rock Harbor Church Rock Harbor Church.net Brandon you told me your church is growing absolutely by leaps and bounds and is that because other churches were closed or what's happening. The main reason we've tripled in size is twofold. Unbelievers up woke up and they fed what's happening then they try to find a church to tell them what's happening and they come up empty.

So somehow the Lord lead them to us with believers though they have been part of churches, and then all of a sudden the church turns up woke after the shutdown and the pastor gets up there and says hey we all have white privilege and we need to repent of that. So there like were done. One of the church that preaches the truth. Some of our group of come from that. And these people are desperate to find a church now that will preach the truth talk about current events. Maybe talk about prophecy very, very difficult to find. I don't know what the percentage might be but a 5% of churches are doing that. I think that would be wonderful if the wonderful were 50%, but it's a minimal number of churches that are focusing on the issues of the day. Sometimes a website. Brandon is not sufficient, and maybe it would be better to actually make an appointment with the church leader and sit down and have a discussion with them before investing months, even years. I gave you illustration on the phone the other day that I have an email from a gal who'd been attending heaven to be a reformed church for. I think a dozen years pulpit was very sound.

Nothing wrong with the pulpit whatsoever family Baptist reform, but then she said, would you please do something on Revelation, the book of Revelation pastor said absolutely will cover it.

He started a series on Revelation and once he got Revelation for every thing was, allegorizing, she'd been there 12 years and didn't know they were millennial.

Wouldn't that be one of the first questions when you're approaching the church leadership of a new church. Are you premillennial, which is good, all left behind theology and Jesus reigns and rules on earth literal thousand years.

Are you millennial or are you replacement theology. Do you believe the church is the new Israel. You take it from there.

I think the mistake that a lot of people were making were trying to help people in doing this is Bill go to church and listen to sermons.

You can sit there and listen. Maybe for good three months and never pick up that the person has all these things that are warning flags that could be in a certain book of the Bible. But that's not going to be triggered before you know what people are sitting there.

Well, since my thoughts start getting some friends here and in for you know it you're emotionally tied to that church, which have to do is before you even go you need to call and make an appointment with the pastor and then you should have a list of questions that you're going to ask before I can your church.

Are you dispensational. That's gotta be a primary question why because that controls the pastor's hermeneutic of whether he takes the Bible literally and doesn't.

Allegorizing, prophecy like the book of Revelation or Daniel and then you then asked him several things are you premillennial are you pre-tribulation on your attribute. It's important to know because I want to know what the pastor's hermeneutic is where he placed that because sometimes when you asked the raptor question. It'll trigger whether or not the guys replacement theology on nothingness all the time. Sometimes you guys put the rapture post-tribulation. All and then they believe the church is Israel.

Those are important questions. What is their view on Israel prophetically does God have a plan for Israel are the Jews, the chosen people are they going to get saved in the end, those are questions you gotta find out because what happened. The majority of churches or replacement theology tray believe the church is replaced. This will control the hermeneutic anytime is rules referenced which the church and that does serious damage to their interpretation. To further probe that we go to school pastor. Why is that important.

Well, whether the pastors formally trained or informally trained. I want to know what his educational background is, did he go to a legitimate seminary or did he say well I disappointed myself to be pastor one day. Believe it or not there's a lot of churches where the guy has self appointed himself as a pastor and he has no training whatsoever that would be like going to a doctor to submit not just a Dr. Bettinger met school so you want to find out what school did you go to is that school legitimate those questions. Some of them that need to be asked do you practice church discipline would be another question whether or not they're going to deal with sin in the church. Most churches will not practice church discipline asked what is your view on the LGBT movement. What is your view on gender.

What is your view on critical race theory. If he can't answer those questions need to leave. He should know all things. I think the thing that has come through loud and clearly to me and that is based on emails and other exchanges I have with people at the church is going to not be very sound. It's probably ignoring a couple of things. It won't be pro-Israel. It just won't be will have sympathy for the Palestinian cause and it will ignore eschatology or Bible prophecy or just handle that topic entirely wrong.

Those of the tooth and said, seem to get immediately compromised Brandon years basically saying the same thing that we need to look out. Make sure you dispensational pretrip would help though. Again, that can be a debatable issue, but the literal interpretation of the Bible is so important that goes into understanding the kingdom. I would ask, what is your view on the kingdom is literal can deliver you on all millennialist doesn't take it literal that is exactly right. I do a quarterly print magazine folks. You can sign up for it online.

All of his.org and the summer issue is why many churches today can never understand the times I'm going over the theologies that are going to make sense of our times. One would be millennialism. They believe that the millennium began at the cross and were in the millennium now how is that working out since at supposed to be a time of perfection, but that is what they believe. Most denominations are millennial I could name them, but I won't.

You want to stay away from that. If you really want to understand the times you must stay away from the Dominion is some kingdom now post millennialism latter rain all of those theologies are teaching that the world with the churches help just keeps getting better and better. That's Dominion is some kingdom now post millennialism latter rain and that mankind and particularly the church has the ability to improve a decaying sinful planet is under delusion folks. Brandon, your comment on that. I would add to this effect. Church is not talking prophecy in the middle of all this going on. That's a red flag.

The pastor should be talking about this, you could find that out on listening to the sermon. What's the latest sermons. He preached and you can see that online. Beyond that, can the guy even talk about current events, rate's, most churches won't even discuss current events. They put their people in a bubble and pretend nothing's going on. They won't explain what's happening. That's the pastors job and yet these pastors are acting as if nothing is happening, so that's another clue will he talk about current events. I think there was a study done by life way. I think you mentioned at one time when your program. The study found that 98% of the sermons that were polled had nothing to do with profit rate, only 2% two person that ought to tell you what kind of landscape we have out there.

Very good point and that's brownouts in a lot of the products that we carry. The fact that only 2% of churches willing to talk about what were talking about on here here today.

One more cliff that happens to be Jeff Kinley again he's back with Dave Reagan at the Christ and prophecy TV program talking about what we are talking about. We think that the bigger we are more people we attract. The more God is pleased with us.

Jesus disciples 12 men as Charles Spurgeon famously said 12 minutes enough to be accountable for old age. But we think that has to be huge has three massive asked me phenomenal.

But if we just focusing on the purity of the gospel and that's exactly what Paul warned the Corinthians in second Christmas. I fear that you may be straight away from the simplicity and purity of the gospel where I think you church affected even in his official recognize that he wanted to write about certain things, but already early in the church believers were drifting away from the truth.

And he said I have to readdress things because you're already drifting and you need to contend earnestly for the faith.

I find it interesting in our day and age so much is about marketing and so a lot of products are proclaiming themselves to be new and improved, and you find will are really not that new and they're deftly not improved and the church. The Lord called us to be a part of the gospel that he called us to proclaim is nothing to be improved upon is what needs to be proclaimed as the truth of Scripture you're listening to understanding the times radio and Jim Markel and in talking with my guest. Brandon hometowns for the hour about some of the things that have gone haywire in the church in the last 30 to 40 years. But really, we have been focusing more on the last year. To be honest, the point we made in part one of the programming is that things are changing and not in the best of ways, really on a day by day, hour by hour basis. We can hardly keep up with some of the false teachings and the wolves among the flock that have been ravaging our churches, and particularly I would say to me, probably around the time some of the churches were even shut down and then as I brought out earlier in the programming they opened up months later or a year later folks went back to their church. They did not recognize it. What happened well he went awoke that has consequences.

And that's what we've been talking about here for the hour and Brandon.

You made a good point to me the other day and you said people need to be willing to drive a distance. If there's a good church at the end of that destination be willing to drive it wanted to emphasize that the people that call our ministry and assess for churches to recommend in their area will try to do some hunting for them and try to locate some churches and we do some of the responses will that's too far to drive some of it being 30 miles 50 miles 75 miles we have to tell them were in a day and time with finding the truth is going be like finding gold. You're gonna have to be willing to drive if you want the truth.

This is where it's and it's gonna take some effort on your part. The days of the neighborhood Church of Vimy and is over.

We got people driving our church. A guy just came from San Francisco with a 4 Hour Dr.

We got people from Hollywood Palmdale Central Coast. There, driving two hours on a Sunday reeling to be with us the mark of the remnant they will go wherever they need to go to get the truth.

I understand some people can't drive that far senior saints can do that but if you're capable of doing. You're going to have to drive you just don't have to put in the time to find a good church did you think you would see the explosion and I think this is one of the biggest things messing up the doctrine today and I just referenced a minute ago and that is that the church is going to make the world a whole lot better.

Again, this is dominion is an kingdom. Now that's what's exploded in the last 5 to 10 years which I did not think I would see in my life, at least to the degree that's happening now.

Assuming that mankind has the ability to improve a decaying sinful planet but that's what these folks to believe what I have found is that dominion is new upstart Reformation is kingdom now.

Believe it or not, put that believer on the same path as if a person was a Marxist and this is why I think the two are converging and adopting the same principles, the Marxist, the commish looking for this Marxist utopia heaven on earth. Without God right here comes the dominion us in the new upstart Reformation and they have the same mentality to work on a make heaven on earth.

And then Jesus is going to come back. That's the same mentality you can bring in the kingdom without the king, this is why I have watched over the last few years. Those people who believe they can build Christ's kingdom without him adopt Marxist principles of woke is work on a cure illiteracy work in a cure AIDS were going to cure racism work on a cure all the social ills which are all nice but that's not the gospel that's not the great commission. The church is not responsible to solve all the social ills. I hear crickets are working to solve, and in poverty will that's what Marxist say is I know said three more. You will always have with you what I've noticed is that theological construct of building the kingdom actually matches the Marxist utopia of building their kingdom.

You need to be catching Brandon homes houses online updates he's on YouTube rumbles in the know best place to find the links is just go to his website. Rock Harbor Church.net and you'll find all the links where you can catch Brandon like olive three-week at censored all the time electronically. Thank you to my radio stations. You don't censor me and I do appreciate that, but big tech likes the sensors so best place to go is Rock Harbor Church.net and then find his prophecy updates that are usually weekly as well as the Sunday sermons. Brandon, you told me off air that in some of your travels you can actually meeting face-to-face plus your own church congregation, which is obviously made up of some remnant believers if there drive in three and four hours and here looking into the eyes of some very lonely and even desperate people, believers who want fellowship who want sound teaching who reject the false and the various things that we been talking about that, go haywire and you developed a real burden for them. You kind of came up with a plan wanted to talk to us about that.

I have several speaking engagements.

This last spring and I just did one with Tom Hughes got around the country little bit and looked straight in the eye with these remnant believers. What I saw there eyes.

What we need help were desperate for someone to help us. Our churches went crazy can't trust the pastor. What can we do. We have no leadership. We have no guide after I'd come home to just keep reoccurring to me. You need to help these people. They don't have anyone helping them so the Lord, I believe, put a burden on the same was try to help them as much as we can. What we have done is we've somewhat organized the system in order to help these remnant believers that are caught without a church that need some guidance to.

We've started that by ditto prophecy of the called the Macedonian remnant call of the Macedonian call, but I put the word when that in there because incentive is other people: Paul think I'm over here the remnant, saying please help us what we have decided to do is have people call us email us will try to help them out. Find a church will help them out with Bible study helped some of them don't even know what commentaries to use to help them in the Bible since we make recommendations for that was even open our doors so to speak to counseling.

I'm personally helping people around the country now and similar counselors are as well. Here we will open that up to them theological questions. We have even groups out there now that are forming a church plant where helping them to do that and get them off the ground because there's no churches in their area.

There all woke or apostate. So we symbol.

If you have a leader let's start a church plant with you and we have groups scattered to the country. We have even a group or shorten the work with in Italy. I'm starting to see a new paradigm now this new paradigm is to help these remnant believers. So that's what were trying to do. How can my audience tap into what you're offering me to email us at our website info@rockharborchurch.net email effect with best way to get a hold of us.

I have staff members that will I divide the emails up between them and they'll answer those questions as best possible. I answer some myself. We take it from there if they'll just contact us and say what do you need and you to recommendation commentary or whatever will do that for you. That's been the best way know when I did the Macedonian remnant call got flooded.

I saw that what this out to everybody is going to contact us if they want help. We probably will get to you in about 2 to 3 weeks et al. backed up we get emails but doesn't mean we didn't get your email just means that were backed up. I'm impressed that somebody is in fact reaching out to this group of people, the remnant believer that there solid as can be said now this is the third time they came back to their church and didn't recognize it. Or they may have had to have perhaps left their church, 10, 15 years ago because it didn't recognize it. Back then, but all of this has been accentuated as we move deeper and deeper into the last of the last days, which again is so prophesied in the Bible in a Brandon. Maybe the good thing about all of this that we've talked about this hour is it's a great reminder that we are in this season of the Lord's return. Because the Bible says right before the Lord returns this kind of apostasy and wolves among the flock to skin and characterize our day by credit take it away John took it in the book Revelation was told to swallow the small scroll.

It was bittersweet. The bitterness of yellow get a watched apostasy. That's hard to watch but the sweetness is the Lord's coming back and all this is signaling that were close to his return in the rapture. That's exciting to me. Yeah, I'm going to help the remnant and do what I can and I understand Guilty apostasy.

But in the end all of its signals amended with the Lord. Soon, yes. So I need to be about my father's business. Get busy get the work done because were going home soon. The man so folks you want to be in touch with rocker bridge goes through the website. Rock coverage.net they're offering those services. If you are remnant believer, you have issues with finding a church over being a part of the fellowship. Or maybe you're just tired of having only an online church I hear from hundreds of people who have defaulted to an online church only, it's better than nothing, but you do need the fellowship wanted to speak to that Brandon because really the online is great but it's falls short of lease even what the Bible recommends what so many people tell me they say, you know, I'm trapped here and all I had was online but it's not the same as being in the presence of the body of Christ.

God designed the body of Christ at point and need to be with each other. That's why I said we have so many people driving so far they can listen to me online absolute want that coin immediately want to be relevant other believers.

It encourages us to give the strength so that's why were trying to map out all these were in the churches and Bible studies throughout United States and say look, here's one in Idaho. Here's one in Florida go there at least once a month if you can drive there and get some point in the ES of fellowship.

It's vital for your spiritual walk.

The Bible predicted this in the last days. In first Timothy four but the Spirit explicitly says that the latter times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons Brandon speaking of teaching of demons and I'm really change in direction here and were down to just a few minutes anyway talking about the spirits and the teaching of demons at the world economic forum moved their primary meeting to I think early in 2022 and that's when they want to institute their great reset 10 really change the way the world functions we talked about the church here for the entire program, but the fact that the world is going to be changed. I think fairly soon. Frankly, that might indicate the church is going to disappear, that's my suspicion don't know that for sure. Your thoughts on where this world economic forum is going. I'm down here to about three minutes. I think everything is going to accelerate. I think were going to see things we never thought were possible because this last year. It proves that they could get their agenda accomplished and now they have everybody on board. No one given them any opposition. So my thing about the world economic forum wants to do. They already tell us what they're going to and they set the limit to 2030 there and it is called corruption faster, special, with a Biden administration through your going to see us move in the direction of the digital currency to see us move in the direction away from capitalism to see us move in the direction away from going private property and all these other things we couldn't imagine happening always put a caveat would direction. I not see anything right, but if we stay here in the Lord Terry's working to see a lot of us and I believe they're going to get it accomplished faster than what we thought really is nothing standing in the way the global elite start wanting this to help the politicians in the back pocket had education in the back pocket. They have an indoctrination that is happened to our United States were at least half of our country thinks that this right okay so liberty is eroding. I asked the congregation, are you less free today than you were two years ago and never once the hands that were less free. My civil this is what were talking about.

They're going to push these things before you know it can't walk into a place of leisure vaccinated can't go to the store leisure vaccinated and all these other things that they're employing. We talk about apostasy. Will this is another converging factors.

The globalism that's in high speed right now. I believe they're going to use other crises to accelerate this, use the planet environmentalism would have save the planet warming stuff they're going to come out with his other variance with the COBIT 19 W Delta variant and all his other stuff going on use. They're gonna create crises so that we will be willing to give up our freedoms for security.

That's right Brandon, I want to thank you for joining me this hour. We've talked about a lot of things heavily church issues and that's heavily weighing on my audience because again, both you and I get so much feedback from so sound and listener Landon are so heartbroken over some of the issues going on in the church and hopefully clarify that for some of you today. Folks again. You can reach Brandon and rock covered.net catches prophecy updates online because they're very cutting it. I just want to say this about the church because God calls the church, his bride, and he's going to call that bride home soon. I think very soon and then there's going to be a wedding in heaven. I am hoping I'll see you at that very special event at the wedding supper of the Lamb. It could be any day.

It could be even today I want to thank you for listening and we will talk to you next week. Contact us through our website. All of the treaties.for all of 30 arch coal is simple time at 763-559-4444 763-559-4444 male would you write to all of your ministries and Jan Martel Box 1452, Grove, MN 55311 Xbox 1452 Maple Grove, Minnesota 5511.

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