It's Halloween weekend 2025. Why do some Christians think it's okay to celebrate? We will talk about it. Celebrated over several days, Sowhan marked the end of the harvest and the beginning of winter. A time when the Celts believed the boundary between the world of the living and the dead was at its thinnest.
On October 31st, spirits were said to be able to cross over into the realm of the living. walking among them for one night before returning to the otherworld. Welcome to Understanding the Times Radio with Pastor Josh Schwartz and Ken Michael. Brought to you by Olive Tree Ministries, ministry founded by Jan Markell. In our program, Pastor Josh and Ken talk to Janiza.
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Well, it's that time of the year when kids are out trick-or-treating and parents are going to parties and also trick-or-treating with their kids, going around to the neighborhood. And if you talk to people, this seems like normal behavior. But what else is going on behind the scenes? Is there something darker going on out there that we should know about? In fact, dark scenes that people not only practice at this time on this day, but year-round.
We'll find out with our guest today. You can find her at xpsychicsave.com. We'd like to welcome back to the program, Jen Nitza. Jen, thank you so much for joining us. Hi, thank you so much for having me.
It's a pleasure and a blessing to be here with you today.
Well, it's great to have you back. We want to play a quick clip and then get your take on it. Celebrated over several days, Sawhon marked the end of the harvest and the beginning of winter. a time when the Celts believed the boundary between the world of the living and the dead was at its thinnest. On october thirty first, spirits were said to be able to cross over into the realm of the living, walking among them for one night before returning to the other world.
The Celts both welcomed and feared these spirits. they believed their deceased loved ones could return, offering blessings and guidance. But the night also brought darker forces, malevolent spirits and mischievous beings that could slip into the living realm. Sawin was also a time of divination. Druids and ordinary folk alike believed the liminal veil allowed glimpses into the future.
Nuts were roasted to predict marriages. Or stones cast into bonfires to read omens for the year ahead. The Christians believed that Sowin was a pagan holiday. And because of the festival's association with death, the Celtic people and druids were labeled as devil worshippers. In their attempts to wipe out pagan practices, the Christians succeeded in transforming the festival into All Saints' Day or more commonly known as All Hallows' Day.
The night before, traditionally known as Sohen, became All Hallows' Eve, and eventually Halloween. You're listening to Understanding the Times Radio, the program founded by Jan Markel. And today we have with us from xpsychicsave.com Jin Nitsa. Jen, in that clip, we heard just a bit of the history of Halloween.
Now, my question to you to open the program is this. Why is Halloween so popular today? It's such a shame. I believe it's because it is an addictive I hate to use that word, but it's true because I believe it's coming from the enemy and it has shape-shifted just as Satan does with his concepts, his practices. He is presenting it now as something.
of the light in regards to just a dress-up, just a trick-or-treating. trunk or treat, etc., and has fooled people, but I Do not believe that it has changed a lick from what you just saw in that clip. This is the devil's holiday. And he is very convincing, and he is very manipulative and very deceptive. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
And Jin, there seems to be a movement more this year than in years past. of Christians coming and saying, it's okay, conservative Christians saying it's okay to participate in Halloween and allow your children to participate in Halloween. What are your thoughts? It's a very upsetting situation. I'm seeing a lot of that also on TikTok in the social media world.
I'm seeing a lot of conservative Christians doing that. I think that it is something that. People, unfortunately, may want to hold on to for perhaps nostalgic reasons. Maybe they just want to participate in something that they think would cause strife in a way between them and their kids. If they don't allow them to do the same things that The world is doing.
And yet, unfortunately, the rest of the time, they may argue that. Yeah, you know, we're in the world, but we're not of it. And they may stand up for other. You know, biblical principles or not participate in things that are more blatantly demonic. to them.
And ignoring the warning, unfortunately, of people like myself, former new agers, former witches, and former psychics. and we are warning that this is demonic.
So seeing them do that is upsetting for so many reasons. It's influencing, especially people that have huge platforms, influencing. Many out there leading them astray, making them think it's okay. Hey, don't worry, put on your little. biblical character outfit or go trick or treating.
The rest of us out there are just paranoid and We just think everything is going to lead to demonic possession, and that's just not true. There is a balance. Of course, we're not going to look for a demon behind every corner, but we're going to come out and call what is demonic demonic. Yeah, and we were talking earlier about how social media and movies play such a huge influence on our children. In fact, we were talking about the movie Wicked, where they idolize and say that witches are actually good, and they use popular figures to idolize this practice.
You've talked about this before. What are your thoughts on this? Oh my goodness, that movie Wicked is promoting witchcraft. That's what it's doing because it's saying that you can be a good witch. Maybe bad witchcraft is evil and dark, but good witchcraft is okay.
And we see that in Wicca, we see that with white witches. And this movie. is going to have the effect on Halloween With little kids dressing up as these witches. Ariana Grande plays the good witch. Ariana Grande is a huge role model, unfortunately.
For many, many young ladies. She's popular through the music industry. And she is very open about her own participation. In divination, by the way, we did a one of those celebrity in the bag, what they have in their bag, and she had. Tarot card.
She had a crystal ball. Forgive me, I'm sorry. She had a crystal ball in there. She's very open about doing tarot cards, etc. and little girls will look up to them and this movie because you they use such a big celebrity It was um Off the charts, doing great.
still out there still on streaming platforms. And this is what we are seeing, the enemy in cinema. indoctrinating the masses. I recently just spoke at a conference in Cobleskill, New York, and while stopped at the Amtrak station in a little shop This is what I saw right there. This is a My sticker dress-up Wicked, which is with the two characters, or what would look like the two characters from the movie Wicked.
This is being marketed. towards children. Children, the demonic. And, Josh, we were reading reports that on the set, people were being oppressed. I mean, they had major situations going on on set where people were becoming sick, becoming ill.
And I think one person said it was almost like there was this evil spirit on the set with them. Yeah, well, what do you expect? You're dealing with dark, demonic things, and you're normalizing it, and you're expecting not to get burned. It's like playing with a stove and expecting not to get burned. The same thing happens here.
When you normalize the demonic, when you normalize evil, there's going to be evil things that happen. And, Jen, we. Recently, just heard that the second wicked movie is coming out in just a number of weeks. And yet again, it's like you said there, it's indoctrination. It's marketed towards children.
I remember a number of years ago when the movie Frozen came out, that we had little Elsas and Anas running around at Halloween time. I cannot imagine now, even today, what it's going to be like with little wicked witches and good witches running around. Jen, is it okay? for parents to allow their children to dress up on Halloween. I would say absolutely not.
Number one, especially in the way of. Witchcraft and little witches and uh dressing up as characters that celebrate and glorify Sin.
Okay, sin that which was nailed to the cross with our Lord Jesus Christ. That's what that's doing. That is an open door. That is a demonic door that's being opened despite what it looks like on the surface.
So if you're not dressing up as a witch, right? You're still dressing up. And you played that video. uh showing us what that really means and why people were doing that. And that is what it still is today, but it has presented as something different.
So you will open a demonic door. you know doing that. And Little kids having doors open, you have to realize that they don't have. the spiritual wherewithal. That we have, right?
They're most likely not even saved.
So they're relying on us, right, guys? They're relying on us as Christian parents to cover them in prayer, to pray the armor of God, to guard them, to guard what they're seeing, guard what they're hearing, and guard what they're doing and watching, right? That's a huge responsibility. And it's very upsetting for me to see that because I too had doors open for me as a young person. young people Are living in a world right now, guys.
I mean, we all are, but again, the youth are different, right? They're very, very vulnerable. And they're living in a we live in a turbulent. World, but what about their microcosm? What about their home life?
What about their school life? Don't you think that they? Could be influenced by this witchcraft as a desire to control. Their circumstances because that's what witchcraft is offering you. And when you put on a pink dress and a happy hat and a little wand That makes it look innocent.
You can just, as long as I don't wish anything bad on you, maybe I can say a spell getting the bully away from me in school. Maybe I can cast a spell for mommy and daddy to get along better at home. Whatever is bothering them on the inside, or they're not. agreement things for the future. Yeah, so Jen, I think what I hear you saying is this is a gateway to behavior, especially later on in life.
We see young people that are totally into tarot cards and crystals and Ouija boards. Is this a gateway to that? 3 million percent. Absolutely. That was well said, Ken.
It is a gateway to that. And please don't be fooled. Bye. How it's presenting at certain times, because we know Satan does that. He masquerades as an angel of light.
And so do his servants. They masquerade as servants of righteousness. And I think I'd mention this to you, Pastor Josh, that it reminds me kind of of yoga in a sense, because it can present as something Beneficial for you or okay to do. Many Christians, unfortunately, practice it, disregard the spiritual. Premise of it, the spiritual nature of it, and say, hey, if I can just Play some worship music.
write Jesus on my yoga mat, but whatever, then it's okay. That's ignoring what's behind that: the darkness, the sinister agenda of Satan himself. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Satan is the master of delusion and the master of deception. And he is doing these very things, deluding and deceiving the masses into normalizing and even commercializing Halloween and the darkness, the evil, and the demonic therein.
Jen, earlier in the conversation, you talked about how so often people will say, well, we're in the Christians will say we're in the world, not of the world, and yet they'll totally be in the world and of the world when it comes to Halloween. And it reminds me of a verse of scripture, a command of the Apostle Paul from Ephesians chapter 5, beginning in verse 7. This is what Paul says. He says, therefore, do not become partners with them. For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord.
Walk as children of light. For the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true. Crew. Friends, if you are a follower of Jesus, you are to be the light in the areas in which he has placed you with. And dabbling in the darkness is not being light.
Now, Jen, as we transition, we know that you have really been in the new age and called out the new age all throughout your ministry. We want to play this clip about white witches and get your response. Back in the old days, witches were often depicted to have long noses, pointed hats, and scary faces. But now Times have changed. Most people carrying witchcraft presents no longer carry charms, pots, or calderons.
No. they have become very modernized, sophisticated, and even blended into everyday circles, neighborhoods, and even churches. And when it comes to identifying them, There is only one way to know. By their fruits ye shall know them. Did you ever get involved with angel cards too?
I went to go see, and this was the scariest. I went to go see a white witch. And she Would bring me into her apartment, white carpet, white piano, white everything, angels everywhere. She'd be wearing white. We'd sit down on her floor in the living room, and she'd be sitting on a pillow, and I'd be sitting about 10 feet away from her.
She'd play this new age music, and she'd like ring these bells, and she'd bring out her angel cards.
So I began to go to the stores and get the stones, and get the incense and say the mantras and all these things. And I had no idea at the time that I was just opening up the door to the demonic, but it started to manifest in my life, and I started to see things. I started to see shapes. Most mornings, I had to walk to work. It wasn't a far walk, but I walked to work at like 5 a.m.
Like those walks would be so traumatic and so fearful because of stuff that I would see and shapes that I would see in the dark while I was walking. She. Oh my gosh, she told me this horrifying story about how, in a past life, I might. Either I had hung myself or my child had hung themselves. It did.
I mean, more than that. I was not only. playing with angel cards, I was seeing a white witch. You're listening to Understanding the Times, the radio program founded by Jan Markell.
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Mark Hitchcock about that book. Today, we're talking to Jin Nitsa. Jin, there's a lot going on in that video. Yeah, thank you so much for playing that video. As you probably could see, it brought a smile to my face to see the sisters in Christ who have been set free, who have been so courageous to come on my show and share their experiences to warn, of course, the masses about these new age practices that are.
Exactly, what that video said in the beginning that you played, no longer. I shouldn't say no longer, but not as often are these practices being presented as the evil like they used to.
So I talk about this plenty of times myself. When I was a psychic medium, I would have looked just like this, no black hat. I mean, I would wear the crystal. But that wouldn't necessarily set me apart, that you would know that you were about to encounter a psychic medium. practicing divination.
And white witches, of course, with those, what China was talking about, with the white. You know, decor and this idea of just because you're putting white there and not black, that it would signify some sort of innocence or holiness, even. We were taught to imagine white light around ourselves as a barrier against negative energies when I was in divination groups. The past lives, but then you could see the effects on these ladies and my own story as well because though. That's how it was presenting.
on the back end if you will right uh we were Suffering. demonic oppression. suffering from those demons that we were invoking. that were in our And I warn people all the time. Do not be fooled by the mediums you're seeing on TV.
By the tarot card readers, the angel card readers that you're seeing on TikTok. You do not go home with them at night. You do not live their life. They are most certainly facing. the side effects of the demonic practices that they are doing.
They just don't know to credit it. with that. And then, because the enemy has them on a hamster wheel. And the more those demons come into your life from doing these practices. you are going to keep seeking the problem for the solution when you are deceived by the darkness.
So you'll do more readings, you'll burn more sage, you'll think it has something to do with you and that you can control the spirit realm. Wear more crystals, etc., and do meditations. And it is a very Um like I said before. A very indictive Horrific. Scheme of the Devil that ultimately will lead you to hell.
if you do not repent and come to saving faith. In Lord Jesus Christ. Great point, Jen. Another quick clip, and I want to get your comment on it. How old were you when you had your first?
Psychic reading. Nineteen years old? Yeah, it's a It's something that I think is also really attractive to human beings because we want answers. We want answers. We don't like the unknown.
And so, if there's somebody out there, a psychic, saying, you know, I can give you direction, I can give you answers. But then like I have a lot of friends who are so dependent on this and they won't make a move, Jen. Without consulting with their psychic or their medium, you hit on so many points. Number one, the new age is very seductive, and it's very addictive. It's very addictive.
So, like what you just said at the end there, that your friends are very dependent, or you know, people that have been very dependent upon it. That's exactly how I was. Of course, it dictated everything. Any decision you want to make, or any you do, you must consult your astrology chart, your zodiacs, you know, all the things, the tarot cards. Our guest today is Jen Nisa.
You can find her at xpsychicsave.com. So, Jen. I don't think people understand or realize how Big and prevalent, the New Age movement is. How has this movement influenced our culture? Oh my goodness gracious, it's got people putting their faith and trust.
In creation, such as the planets, the stars, the moon, by making it the normative, glamorizing it, desensitizing people to it, by putting it on shows that have nothing to do with witchcraft at all, on Netflix, putting it on apps. making you put your birthday in there. Put your zodiac sign, so it's making it your horoscope, right?
So, our culture is being led astray from the truth, and that is what the devil wants. He wants people to be led astray from the way, the truth, and the life, Jesus Christ, of course, and resting. the enemy resting on the New Age practices for the desires of your heart. For your life decisions, like we just spoke about in that clip. I did it myself as well.
I couldn't make moves without pulling a card. My day didn't start with prayer. didn't know God, my days started with pulling a tarot card or an angel card. That's what everything depended upon. in my life.
And it's so dangerous because It's demonic. and it will lead to destruction. It will destroy you, period. The enemy may give you a little instant gratification, but these kids guys Are opening these doors so early. That's what our culture is doing.
That's the new age and witchcraft in our culture through cinema, through music. through the social media is leading these kids down the demonic Path. Very quickly, very quickly, and only destroying them, leading to things like unaliving themselves, drug addictions, promiscuity, all of the sins that Satan wants them to do. And it's very, very sad. And the decisions that they have coming to them in their life that they feel unsure about.
that they're nervous about. They're putting their faith and trust on those decisions. in cards, in creation. and in the devil's schemes, and they are deceived by it. Instead of having faith and rest and freedom.
In our Lord Jesus. That is huge to point out because when I was young, it seemed as though horrible. horoscopes and psychic mediums were kind of on the outskirts. That was kind of a taboo thing to do. And now it is culturally normative.
It is normal for these people to be doing these things. And I think also what we have seen over the last number of years is the The the slow creep Of influence, specifically in the area of music. And it used to be the dark, demonic, hardcore rock, but now it is pop culture, it is normal, like mainstream, top 40 artists and music that is really influencing our culture. Can you walk through that for us for the moment? Yeah, I mean, I'm somebody who speaks a lot about, of course, Taylor Swift.
I will not stop warning. people about her music. I pray that God would save her, and that would be the day then that I would stop warning people, of course. But she has presented herself in the past, let's say. as even possibly a Christian.
And in in this light, this little country girl, who then took this turn. This darkness, and she promotes lust, guys, numerology. Karma. The invisible string theory. These are new age ideologies.
This is sin, and she has such a huge influence out there. End on Christians. And on Christians, because they don't know. You don't know until you know, but once you do, you need to make a decision, which actually is very much like Halloween if you think about it. Once you know.
You know. and you need to make a decision. But yeah, the music industry, I mean even Katy Perry Katy Perry with her divine feminine Lady Gaga. The divine feminine, again, this focus on being worshiping goddesses. And that you can be a goddess too, and manifesting.
Katy Perry was talking about manifesting when they took their little space trip.
So, Jen, you have a new documentary coming out. It sounds really exciting. Tell our audience about that. Actually, it's a short film. And the Lord impressed this upon me over two years ago.
And it's a short film based on my story. It'll be a standalone for the ministry. But also the foundation for a feature film. film that will be Sharing the truth, exposing psychic communication for what it really is, demonic, and of course, pointing to the only solution and the only rescue, our Lord Jesus Christ. And I'm so excited about it because when I think about these movies that are out now that we were talking about wicked, there was a movie called Tarot.
even in films that don't present as horror films. A Ouija board gets in there, right?
Now we here at X Psychic Saved are stepping into that. medium, quote unquote, if you will. to share the truth to evangelize in a way that will be extremely powerful. On the big screen, and God in His Amazing grace. has opened the door.
Open all the doors for this film, and we are shooting it in just a month from now, and we are super excited. And we are still campaigning. We're so close, but we're still campaigning. For it, and people can go to. I found crazy.
Priced. Yeah. And I appeal to the body to help us, to come alongside us. to get this amazing and powerful tool out there. The hope is that souls would be rescued from the new age, from divination.
And that our Lord would be magnified and glorified through this project. Amen.
Well, Jen, it sounds like you're putting into practice the command from God from Deuteronomy chapter 18 to flee from these things. This is what Moses writes in Deuteronomy 18, verse 9: when you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving to you. And you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead. For whoever does these things is an abomination.
to the Lord. Jen, thank you so much for this. Friends, we're going to continue this conversation on the extended version of our program that can be found on all of our social media, including Rumble and YouTube. Jen, thanks for joining us for this first half. Thank you so much for having me.
Welcome back to the extended version of Understanding the Times. I'm Ken Michael along with my co-host, Pastor Josh Schwartz. And joining us is Jenniza. You can find her at xpsychicsave.com. So Jen, in the first half, We played a clip and it talked about white witches.
For our audience that doesn't understand what a white witch is or are there what's the difference between a white witch and, I don't know, a regular witch or a warlock, can you explain that to our audience? Yeah, so a white witch is going to align themselves more with nature and invoking. Um Maybe who they believe are, you know, goddesses of all different, you know, things. There's so many. In order to, and say incantations, to draw things to themselves, to attract things to themselves.
So, in essence, it's not. that they want to cast spells on you. They are all about love and light. They're going to Cleanse their crystals according to the moon cycle. They believe in the divine feminine.
They will even wear crystals to attract things to themselves and think as long as they're not. wishing anything bad on you. They're doing okay. They're the good guy. And I once thought I was the good guy too, because I would have.
definitely related to that when I was a psychic medium. and doing witchcraft Witchcraft. Practices as well? When I was younger, I was in my teens, early 20s, and I grew up as a Catholic and I stopped going to church. But I still wanted to find out where the truth was.
So I delved into like Eckhart Toll and Deepak Chopra. Wayne Dyer was a big one back then, where they taught you to if you put out into the universe, you'll receive it back. Is that kind of what you're talking about here? Yes, absolutely, Ken. That's manifesting.
That's the law of attraction. Believing that you can bring the desires of your heart, the plans that you have come up with for your life, right? Things that you think that you. Should have things that you want, and then you're putting it out there to energy. The universe Relying on your own positivity, relying on also these other rituals.
To make it so, to bring it into existence.
So these other things have to be in place too. Whether you have the vision board, it's when you cleanse the crystal. The mantras that you say, etc.
So it is the Polar opposite yet counterfeit, I believe, of prayer. Many people think that, hey, they're just praying, it's okay. No, that's not. what prayer is. Prayer, first of all, As a believer, a believer is indwelled with the Holy Spirit, and prayer is coming to God.
Submitting. our will to his bringing the desires of our heart but saying God Let your will be done, but your will be done, just like our Lord Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. who prayed. Your will be done, not ours. We trust in the plan that God has for us.
God sees all things, He is the Alpha and the Omega. He knows all things. We do not. We do not. So the things that you want and you're putting out there, right?
Most likely. will be very bad for you. And it's not just about be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. Be careful who you ask. Because when you're practicing witchcraft, You're going to the cards, you're going to numerology, you're going to astrology.
You're asking the devils. And what you will get. will be a devilish Consequence and result. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I think you're really on to it when you talk about how it's a counterfeit of prayer because the truth is, you are seeking the Lord's will when you're praying.
You are submitting yourself to Him and not trying to manifest what you want and how you want it.
So, thank you for bringing that forth because that is exactly what it is.
Now, Jen, there is just this huge movement and culture towards. The new age and normalizing the new age.
Now, When it comes to the white witches, as you eloquently worked through, is that really similar to what, say, Deuteronomy chapter 18 would refer to when they say someone who is maybe a charmer or someone who interprets omens or tells fortunes, is that really what it comes down to? Yeah, yeah, I think that that's the perfect passage right there, giving us that group of practices that. Witchcraft Would be a part of that, numerology, astrology, even though the word numerology isn't there, it is divination. And that is what the Lord is telling us and warning us in that passage: do not consult or practice these things and divination. Is kind of if you imagine, like the big bucket, right?
And now we're going to put in there numerology. Angel cards, tarot cards, it doesn't matter what it looks like. It doesn't change what it is, the reality of it.
So that's absolutely correct. And you're right, it is a plague. In our culture right now. And I really do believe that's because of the explosion of technology. Minusally.
Including AI.
So, Jen, let's talk about the difference between oppression and being possessed. We've heard people in the church that say, you know, I've been oppressed by these demonic spirits. I've seen things, I've heard things from these. Demonic beings. Can a Christian actually be oppressed?
We know that a true Christian won't be possessed, but can they be oppressed? Absolutely one million percent, and that is when you need to ask the Lord what. doors do you have open? Are you trick-or-treating? Are you celebrating Halloween?
Are you watching movies that are you know, rooted in sin, glamorizing you know sin Are you listening to music that is sinful? You know, you just have to ask the Lord to see what doors that you may have open. But yes, we absolutely can be oppressed. And that's when the door has been opened. And we know Satan's prowling around like a lion, seeking to whom he may devour.
And he gets in not only through those ways, but also through our vulnerabilities, our weakness, our insecurities. He's the tempter. He's waiting for that opportunity to come in and through that oppression, try to isolate you, try to make you anxious, depressed, or sick. And so we do need to be on guard. Ephesians six ten to eighteen Tells us that this is a spiritual battle, that we do not wrestle.
Against flesh and blood. And the enemy will even use people. He'll use people. He'll use whatever he has to to gain an entryway into your life and to try and get you down. The believer is the one who is sharing the gospel, right?
The believer. is congregating with the assembly. And that's what the devil doesn't want us doing. And he wants to try to steal our joy, steal our rest. Uh and that's through oppression, that's what he's going to try to do.
So I warn people, you know, be careful about what you're doing. Ask the Lord. Pray, of course, and stand firm in the mighty strength of our Lord. and uh and be on guard. Be sober-minded, be alert.
Yeah. No, Jen, thank you for saying that because you've talked about doorways, you talked about gateways that are open in our lives. And I think that that's absolutely why Paul would say in 1 Thessalonians chapter 5, verse 22, he says, abstain from every form of evil, because there are these specific things that will open a door to the demonic, open the doors to the evil to come in and to oppress the follower of Jesus. And there are many who would say that Christians cannot be oppressed, but the truth is, what about Job? Job was a faithful, blameless follower of God, and yet he was oppressed by Satan, except for he wasn't killed, but everything was taken from him, and he was still faithful.
So friends, I really think we have to be quite discerning. to think through the reality that we can be oppressed. We do live in a spiritual world with darkness that wants to take over, that darkness that wants to destroy, a darkness that does not want to allow the Proclamation of the gospel or the light to be shown through a believer's life.
Now, Jen. How do we work through that? How do you help people to understand just how dark this world is and how to flee from it? Because you came out of a very dark place.
Well, for one, I start with sharing the reality of it that it is real. And I mean, so many people still think that psychics or mediums, Christians even, think that it's. Maybe not true because people are just scam artists or hucksters or charlatans.
So, and they're not hearing about it enough, honestly, Pastor. They're not hearing about divination enough. Not that we want to put a big focus but People need to know when they go to church that this is real because then they leave church and then they go to CVS and they see. Tarot cards, they go on Facebook and they see these little games encouraging you to put your Zodiac sign in there. And they're thinking, hey, I don't.
It's just a game. I don't know anything about this, right?
So, the first thing is to educate people. What I do is educate people, I share my testimony. I encourage people to know who your enemy is. Know who God is, know who you are to God in Christ, but also know who your enemy is because I always say you wouldn't get into a boxing ring. And fight an opponent that you know nothing about, right?
You need to know who we're dealing with, so you need to be reading your Bible daily. You need to know that you have the victory in Christ as a believer. you need to be on Your post against these things and you need to be aware Uh Of where these things are kind of hiding in plain sight. Like I mentioned, these angel cards, these tarot cards, the horoscopes. And I encourage people to educate their children.
Don't just go to the Taylor Swift concert. Read the lyrics. You can get them online. Read the lyrics. Watch the show that they want to watch first and Test the spirits.
test it against the word of God. And see if this is something that you should be doing.
So we have to know what we're dealing with. Know who we are, know who the enemy is, and uh And get on our post. Yeah, you're right. This is an all-out spiritual battle. You're absolutely correct.
So, Jen, before we close out here, real quick, you're working on such an important project that you mentioned in the first part of the program. Real quick, just explain what you're doing because I think this is so important for people to not only understand but watch when you put this out. Yeah, we're working on a short film called Out of the Shadows right now, and it's based on my story. The Lord gave me this movie scene two years ago, and through many meetings and this, that, and the other. Two years passed.
And it's interesting to see what has happened in those two years. We were talking about the movie Wicked. that came out. Wicked 2 apparently is coming out. We're stepping here at X Psychic Saved, we're stepping into That medium, medium.
Pardon the pun, of cinema. To expose divination. This is a powerful film. It's going to be the foundation for a feature film. We are filming in a month from now.
We have an Emmy-nominated writer and director, Jared Anderson. Jen Lilly will be starring in it. She is playing me. Billy Halliwell is a producer on the film, and we have been Praying and working so hard to get this out there so that we as Christians step into. the culture in that way.
The Lord has brought me to TikTok, YouTube, Instagram. Uh Gosh, all the places X. And now he's bringing me into just another platform. to share the truth and share the solution. Two, that divination to being on the hamster wheel and to the deception And we're so excited to do it, and we are still.
I'm asking for your help. Body of Christ to partner up with us. I found Christ. Dot com. A lot goes into making a movie.
So we sure could use your help. Awesome.
Well, that is fantastic. Our guest today has been Jennitsa, xpsychicsaved.com. Jen, we want to thank you so much for joining us. We're going to pray for you and keep up the good work. Thank you so much.
Thank you for your prayers. And I'll be praying for your ministry as well, and both of you guys and your families. God bless you.
Well, Ken, that was a great conversation with Janitsa. She is such an influential force in these dark days because she's been part of it.
Now, friends, I think you need to take this seriously. We all need to take it more and more seriously. As the days are drawing darker and darker, we know that Satan's schemes are going to become more and more prevalent, and they're going to be more deceptive, and they're going to be more. Overwhelming in this world.
So, as grandparents, as parents, as young adults, we really need to take seriously God's word and especially what he says here in 1 Thessalonians, chapters 1 and in 5. I quoted chapter 5 earlier, but to set the context, in chapter 1, Paul tells the Thessalonians how encouraged he is because they were worshiping pagans and they've turned from worshiping. Evil idols and spirits to worshiping the one true God. And then he concludes the whole book by saying in 1 Thessalonians 5:22 to abstain from every form of evil. Friends, we have to take that seriously.
We must abstain from every form of evil. Why? Because we are children of the light and no longer are to dwell in the darkness.
Now, speaking of darkness, Ken, you guys are heading down under again to Australia. Can you tell us about that? Yeah, this will be our third trip. We're very excited for it. We're going to actually venture to Perth for the first time.
We've been to the Gold Coast now a couple of times, but on January 10th, we'll be in Perth, Australia. I'm looking forward to it. My understanding is we have people out there that are. I've looked online, they're looking forward to us coming out there, so we're excited about that. And then on January 17th, the following week, we'll be back at the Gold Coast.
We have a, I gotta say, we're so excited because a lot of people follow our ministry there. I'll be with Pastor Billy Crohn, Pastor Brandon Holthaus will be with us at the Gold Coast, and then Lee Brainerd's gonna be his first time out there, and he's looking forward to that.
So it'll be a wonderful time of fellowship and teaching. We're really looking forward to it. If you want information on tickets, go to themightyright.com, themightyright.com for ticket information. And we're looking forward to seeing you all out there. Hopefully, you can join us.
And until then, God bless you all. Contact us through our website, olivetreeviews.org. That's olivetreeviews.org. Call us Central Time at 763-559-465. The 2008.
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