The Bible says when they say peace and security, and sudden destruction will come. Are we seeing the rumblings of peace and security? We will discuss it. Trump has confirmed the US would be involved in security guarantees for Ukraine as part of a deal to end the war with Russia. The comments came during a historic meeting involving several European leaders, Ukraine's President Zelensky, and Mr.
Trump at the White House. It's an honor. to have the President of Ukraine with us. We've had a lot of good discussions, a lot of good talks. Welcome to Understanding the Times Radio with Pastor Josh Schwartz and Ken Michael, Radio for the Remnant.
Brought to you by Olive Tree Ministries. In our program, Pastor Josh and Ken talked to Pete Garcia, a retired combat veteran and aviator. Leaders are gathering to obtain peace in Russia and Ukraine and throughout the Middle East. Will this ultimately lead to a seven-year peace plan? Donald Trump has confirmed the US would be involved in security guarantees for Ukraine as part of a deal to end the war with Russia.
The comments came during a historic meeting involving several European leaders, Ukraine's President Zelensky and Mr. Trump at the White House. to have the President of Ukraine with us. We've had a lot of good discussions, a lot of good talks. The Ukrainian President handed over a letter from his wife to Melania Trump.
Who herself has written to President Putin about the plight of Ukrainian children who've been kidnapped to Russia? President Zelensky wants to see a ceasefire in Ukraine. Donald Trump changed his mind about that after he met President Putin. I don't think you need a ceasefire. You know, if you look at the six deals that I settled this year, they were all at war.
I didn't do any ceasefires. And I know that it might be good to have, but I can also understand strategically why, well, you know, one country or the other wouldn't want it. You have a ceasefire and they rebuild and rebuild and rebuild, and, you know, maybe they don't want that. European countries will be key to any NATO-style agreement that they would all rally to defend Ukraine in future. The war in Ukraine has had a huge impact, particularly on the Ukrainians who've borne the brunt of it, but it's also had an impact on Europe and on the United Kingdom.
There's not a family or community that hasn't been affected. And when we talk about security, we're talking about the security not just of Ukraine, we're talking about the security of Europe and the United Kingdom as well, which is why this is such an important issue. They looked at a map of Ukraine's front lines together and discussed what a peace settlement. could look like before then joining a wider meeting with all the European leaders who've come here as well, all of whom agreed the next step has to be a three way meeting between the US, Ukraine and Russia. Welcome to Understanding the Times.
I'm Ken Michael, along with Pastor Josh Schwartz. And our topic today is quite extensive. We're going to go over a couple issues. One, we're going to cover the clip you just heard with our guest. He's returning.
He's a retired military combat vet and aviator. We'd like to welcome back to the program Pete Garcia. Pete, thank you so much for joining us today. Hey, it's good to be here, guys. Thank you.
So we know in the last days, Jesus talked about what's going to take place in Matthew 24. He said there'll be wars, rumors of wars. And history reveals there's always been wars and rumors of wars. But we kind of want to look at these global things that have happened, like World War I, World War II, where you see these global events, nations rising against nations, ethnos against ethnos. And we saw in the last administration that there were a lot of wars going on all at once, such as Gaza, Israel, Israel-Iran.
Russia, Ukraine, and as Christians, we're trying to put these pieces together, but the pieces seemed to keep moving.
So Pete, as you look at it right now. What countries are supporting Russia? What countries are supporting Ukraine? And in your opinion, could this turn into another world war?
Well, I don't think this is all going to lead to World War III. I tend to look at this more as like a Mexican. Or, like a global Mexican standoff, you know, you've got. Three spheres of power that are all vying for control and not just. For the here and now, they want long-term control, they want to dominate this century.
And you have in the West the United States leading the charge. Uh, but you also have a mixed bag there because you've got EU folks that are very. Much in favor of globalism, and you've got Nationalists mixed in there, like the leaders of Poland, Austria, and Italy. And then you have in Russia. They have their own empire they're trying to project and regain the glory of their former years.
And that takes territory, it takes manpower, it takes. Increasing their birth rates. Um Getting some type of hegemony over some energy source, or maybe artificial intelligence, or some other thing that they can dominate. And then continue to regain their former empire. All the former Soviet satellite states.
Clearly, there's probably some they don't want back, but I'm sure that there's some that they would very much like to have back, like Ukraine. Um So, I just think that in the last sphere is going to have to be China. It's going to have to be China's influence. I know they're kind of a declining power in a. In a sense, they're a paper tiger in a lot of ways.
They have a declining birth rate. uh aging population Their uh economy is is um You know. a house of cards, you know, it's gonna one crisis and it would really kind of you know unravel a lot of what they're doing. And then with the US, their largest trading partner, now turning away And trying to manufacture more and bring all that stuff back here in the States, the increase in tariffs and whatnot. Um Right now we're at this this uh Junction where all three of these powers are trying to.
exert long-term influence. And they're all thinking long term. And the reason that's become more precedent now is because of things like artificial intelligence, quantum supremacy. All the advancements that are Whoever gains this control first, whoever gains this advantage first, probably will be the ones that dominate the rest of the century. you know, were we to be here that long.
But um So that's the big thing we're seeing right now. But I don't think it's going to blow up into a World War III scenario. this side of the rapture. Yeah, Pete.
So in that clip, we heard President Trump, he's actually helped end many of these wars, several wars, and he's mentioned them. And you mentioned the tariffs and his negotiating skills, as he's doing now with Russia and Ukraine. He's trying to negotiate a peace deal.
However, if this peace deal in the making doesn't succeed, What do you see happening? Where does this lead to then?
Well, I think we're going to see kind of a detente between now and the rapture. And it's kind of like waiting for the other shoe to fall. You know, it's we're waiting and we're waiting, and it seems like something is. significance going to happen and then it doesn't. And with the exception of Israel's actions against Iran and Lebanon and Hamas and the Houthis.
And then even the the joint US strike in Iran. I mean, the West has been holding back, and I think Israel has been holding back. from really unleashing Uh the the true uh fury and power that that are The West, you know, and I would include this in this condition. the US and Israel Have in this, and they definitely demonstrated that in Operation Rising Lion. as well as the uh joint strikes uh on Iran's nuclear and military capability so We're a very powerful coalition between Israel and the United States.
if it were just those two countries, but. I honestly think that things are going to be kind of at a detente until the rapture. And I think the rapture is going to be the global crisis that will Open the floodgates or open the gates wide open for like an Ezekiel 38 type scenario because with the US and the West largely in disarray. The enemies of Israel who are not going to be as impacted. Um Just by the sheer uh religions and things that they hold to in those in those countries.
namely Islam and and and atheism and whatnot. That they'll come against Israel and they'll look at this as the prime opportunity to strike them.
So it also seems to kind of line up with Paul's writing in 1 Thessalonians 5 that That they're going to say peace and safety, and then sudden destruction comes upon them. But that all comes after the rapture. And I think. Honestly, I think the rapture is going to be the world's perfect global crisis that's going to allow all these things to happen.
So Pete, we're hearing a lot of stuff online about some crazy accusations that are going out against President Trump, that he's this ultimate peacemaker. And there are many people who are really nailing him down and putting him as their key target for the Antichrist.
So let's silence this once and for all, Pete. Is President Trump the Antichrist because of all the peace that he is pushing all throughout the world? Yeah. No, no, I mean, not unless he was born within the confines of the boundaries of the old Roman Empire. Uh he wasn't.
He was born in Queens, New York. Um 19 45, 1946, 47, somewhere in there. But so so no, he can't be because Daniel 926 is very clear that this man that comes This Antichrist, this man of lawlessness, the son of perdition, he is going to come from somewhere. out of the boundaries of the old Roman Empire. And so the Roman Empire stretched from North Africa.
All the way through, like the Levant area, kind of to the boundaries where they met to the east with Parthia. all the way north through Greece and uh parts of Turkey. uh modern day turkey and then all up through Europe, up to England. There's a large, large area where this man can come from. And, but it's not the United States, nor is it Queens.
Now, here's what I will say about Trump and why he is such a fascinating. leader is that he seems to be the archetypal uh once in a generation leader that that the Europeans are clamoring for. They they want their own version of Trump. And they've wanted for a very long time a strong leader like that to unite all of the countries together. And here is this guy named Trump who Was a political icon, or a societal or cultural icon, even before he became president.
But Now that he served one term successfully, then he had everything thrown at him but the kitchen sink, you know, to include two assassination attempts. and come out on top fighting. and winning victoriously in this 2024 election. Uh, they want their own Trump because they want to unify all of Europe into a singular country like the United States. And right now they're too fractuous.
They're fighting over. All their current dilemmas and problems, such as unchecked immigration. crime, the economy, inflation. You know, AI taking jobs, all that stuff, you know, free speech. And so they're struggling right now.
So it is going to take a massive crisis. To kind of level the playing field. And then, out of that crisis, I believe is what will rise a European version of Donald Trump. except he will be the Antichrist.
So I just I see him as somebody that they really want Harry Padley to be. Leading them because you've got a bunch of beta mills running it right now with Macron and Car Steiner and And all those guys.
So They're very much in favor. And they see how much masculine, this alpha male kind of leadership. Has done. I mean, he's imposed his tariff wheels across the world. He's imposing peace.
Uh In various conflicts, not just with Israel and Iran, but or Israel and Hamas, but also Russia, Ukraine. uh uh probably coming up Cambodia Thailand Uh Pakistan and uh I think India where it's having a A bit of a row. And so there's a number of countries that he stepped in and said, hey, and also in Africa. He's like, hey, you guys can't. This is really stupid.
This is a really bad idea. Let's find a solution where both sides win. And it seems to be working. I think he is the archetypal guy that the Europeans very much want and will probably get immediately after the rapture. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you, Pete.
As I've traveled across the world, people are fascinated with Donald Trump. They want to know what's going on here. They want to know what he's doing. They want to know what people think about him, what Americans think about him. Many can't understand why there's this huge push against a lot of his policies.
So we know that both countries, both Russia and Ukraine, are going to have to make concessions. They're going to have to give something up. And it looks like Ukraine may have to give up a large part of the country, including the Donbass region, which is rich in minerals. We know that it's a very... strategic part of that country.
And even though Ukraine won't be a part of NATO, those countries, along with the U.S., are saying they're going to provide security insurance, security assurances. What's that going to look like? Will there be a U.S. base in Ukraine ultimately? Or where do you see this going?
I think given Putin's and Trump's relationship, I think it's possible, or some type of a military presence there that may not be. You know, full boots on the ground, but it may be some type of robust diplomatic corps there or some. uh version of that that that functions as um Not necessarily peacekeepers, but observers, you know, people that are just reporting everything that's happening, and that goes real time. Back to Trump or whoever the president will be. After him.
So I think given his relationship with Putin, Um I think it's possible.
Now, this was not possible under Biden. It wasn't possible with Obama. It wasn't possible. That might have been possible with Bush. Um but uh certainly not the Clintons and and beyond.
So Um I I don't think that um Will have necessarily the time to see this. play out long term, but It's certainly possible that it could happen. And I and also I just think that um I think The way that Trump ends up solving this situation is removing all of the sanctions against Russia. In in exchange for Maybe given some portion back of the Donbass or something that will appease the Ukrainians on that side. or splitting it between you know the the dombos region splitting it in half so that uh one side keeps it and the other side remains Ukrainian so they can share not They don't really care necessarily about uh The citizens and the towns that are there, they care about the mineral wealth that's under the ground there.
So they make a way to split that as well as remove all of the. sanctions or or a majority of the sanctions so that Russia can actually Um Start to thrive again, and maybe that might also defuse some of the stuff rising up with bricks. Yeah, Pete, I think you're spot on. And as we transition here, what I would like to do is play a clip and then get your thoughts on it. Last week, tens of thousands of Israelis protested their government's plan to occupy Gaza City.
Across the country, crowds gathering and businesses shutting down in solidarity. Demonstrators urging Israel's leaders to make a deal for the hostages who have been held captive for nearly two years since that October 7th attack. Political demands to end the war. Polling shows that the Israeli public are firmly in favor of striking a ceasefire deal in Gaza. Recent INSS polling found that 81% of Jewish Israelis do not think it's possible for Israelis and Palestinians to live together with full civic equality.
While Pew polling from earlier this year found that only 21% of Israelis think Israel and a Palestinian state can coexist peacefully. Whenever and however the war eventually ends, and even after Netanyahu eventually faces what looks set to be an electoral reckoning, there'll still be deep unresolved divisions both within Israeli society and between Israelis and Palestinians.
Okay. You're listening to Understanding the Times, the program founded by Jan Markell. I'm Ken Michael, along with Pastor Josh Schwartz. Our guest today is Pete Garcia.
So Pete, we're seeing this huge division in Israel, just like there is here in the United States. A lot of protesters and protesting going on in Israel. The majority or a large majority of people there want their hostages back and they're willing to do anything to get that back, including a ceasefire and even a two-state solution. What do you think the Israeli government needs to do to get through this? I think you know Trump was given uh Given Annette and Yahoo the green light to go ahead and finish this with military action.
And I think that they are. will do that. I think that will actually happen. And I know the longer they wait, the the worse it's going to get politically for the um Netanyahu administration.
Now the problems with uh Just going in and obviously Doing a full assault, driving the Hamas out of the remaining Heidi holes they've been in. Is that you kill all the hostages in the process, the ones that are still alive, and there are not many. and they're in very terrible shape.
So they're running out of time.
So I think this is going to happen rather sooner rather than later.
Now, uh It's hard to say why they're pausing now. I do know that upcoming in September, the UN is going to be voting on whether to recognize a Palestinian state. And I think that that is going to drive. The Israelis are not going to wait until then to rescue the hostages. That's not what I'm saying.
A lot of what's happening now is Will decide the fate of what will become of Gaza and what will become of Judea and Samaria and whether the Israelis annex it officially this time. Based on what happens with the UN in September.
So if the UN goes ahead and has the vote, And tries to push forward a Palestinian state without the United States. I think that, that's going to give the green light to Netanyahu. to go ahead and annex Judea and Samaria. and probably have some type of military control over Gaza. And I think the folks that are there are probably going to have to be moved out to other countries.
And that maybe some of this is dealing with working out some of the logistics on that. With other countries trying to coerce them into taking these Arabs.
So it seems like it's There's a lot of like multi-level chess going on right now with so many different fronts. the political front, the diplomatic front, the military front. their own citizenry there. Uh the world uh votes in September. There's so many factors coming in on the But so let me just conclude with saying that I think that the military action will happen sooner rather than later.
that will result in them uh taking military control over Gaz entirely.
Now it's possible that At some point in the future, that the United Nations or some other type of entity could come in and have some type of international set up there but the place is destroyed You can't build anything there because of all the tunnels and the bombs, and it's just utter ruin. That whole strip is gonna take a really long time just to make it livable again. You know, for The world's standpoint, I don't know why they would argue over who's gonna live in Gaza because nobody's gonna live in Gaza until. All that stuff gets cleared. It's unlivable right now.
So, yeah, Pete, great point.
Now, as we transition here, we are seeing a lot all over the world about this new peace plan in Gaza and what Israel is to do next.
So, we want to play a quick clip and then get your opinion. I'm announcing a historic action to. Rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor. And worse. This is Liberation Day in DC and we're Going to take our Capitol back.
Today, West Virginia's governor said he was sending up to 400 National Guard troops to Washington, D.C. at President Trump's request. They'll join soldiers already deployed with D.C. police on the streets of the district. The troops may be armed.
That's a major shift that comes after the president deployed them to, quote, take back the Capitol. We're taking a live look at the Capitol this morning as more National Guard troops make their way to D.C.
South Carolina joins two other Republican-led states who have pledged hundreds of troops. This is in support of President Donald Trump's overhaul of policing in the nation's capital city. We begin with the fight for democracy in Washington, D.C., where protesters flooded the streets to rally against President Trump's federal police takeover.
Well, we're back here with Pete Garcia, and we are having a great conversation.
Now, Ken, you had a couple of questions you wanted to ask. Yeah. Pete? We're seeing violence and lawlessness not only worldwide, but really spreading here in this country. And basically what's happening right now is we're having to clean up the mess that Obama and Biden have left behind for the last decade or so.
Pete, we're seeing the National Guard being deployed in Washington, D.C. right now and probably some other cities across the United States. What's your take on deploying our National Guard? Not just for safety and security of those, but to assist the police departments. This has been a long-term plan by, you know, even before.
We had the label of the deep state. We had certainly people within our government going back to the. nineteen tens that that were committed to um Changing our republic into something else, you know, or embedding us into some type of a global organization. or regional organization. And so part of their plan was to basically gut out the inner cities.
And make them unlivable so that people would be driven out of those, and then they could bring in their own folks to take over these major power centers and control them. We've seen this all over the United States in every major city, it's almost always Democrat led. Whether you're talking about Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York City. Uh you know, Dallas, Texas. I mean, you could go pretty much anywhere.
Denver.
So, part of this tactic by the left has been, you know, it follows the principles of the Hegelian dialectic.
So, you have the thesis, the antithesis, and your synthesis.
So the thesis is how do we Exert more control over the American people by getting them to willingly. surrender their liberty. and freedom for security. And part of that is by encouraging and incentivizing crimes.
so that the the police have to militarize. Um in order to even be on a level playing field with the criminal elements. And we saw that. With the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, all the way through the 70s with that mafia. And then that broke out into different gangs that started to crop up in the 70s and 80s in the inner cities once they began to turn.
and become basically war zones. And the chief war zone was Washington, D.C. And that was one of, I've been there a couple times. I don't ever, I don't recommend going there. Or not in the past, but it's like it was rough.
It's a rough place to be, and it had murder capital. all kinds of things. And that's where our nations, you know, headquarters is, you know, essentially.
So it's about time that somebody does that, but it's also part and parcel with the Hegelian dialectic in that. The police force, law enforcement in the United States, and you, you know, you've been former, you've seen this. They've become very militarized, and they've had to because they've had to keep up with the criminal element. And when you've got cartels and other people coming in with machine guns and bombs and everything else and terrorists Um Meet the force, you have to meet the threat with the requisite amount of force. Exactly.
And so I'm just seeing the militarization of law enforcement. I know that 99% of law enforcement guys and gals are good people. They're trying to do. What's right? It's the system itself that is being move forward beyond Um Almost to the point of beyond constitutionality when we talk about posse comitatas, so I don't know.
Ultimately, where it goes, but it's just a larger trend across that the left. And the wicked have allowed lawlessness to flourish and that in response to that cry out from the people. Is that they have to militarize the police force. And so we see a shrinking. Um Environment where freedoms and liberties are increasingly traded for security and safety.
So, Pete. Question for you. Should other cities use the National Guard to help their crime problems? And with that, what are the positives and the negatives that come along with that? I don't think it's uh a good idea.
Just because Trump's doing it because, you know, what if the next person coming in is worse than Kamala Harris or worse than Biden or worse than whoever? And we've already established this as some kind of a norm. Can you imagine that being turned around and used against Christians or being used against um the law-abiding citizens that don't approve of a particular Government action.
So, I don't think, in principle, there was a reason why that we have possibly comitadas. to prevent this very thing.
Now I will say that I think that For example, what Jack Hibbs is doing in California against this particular school vote. I think communities need to rise up and hold their political leaders accountable. for maintaining law and order in their communities. And it needs to be led by churches. It needs to be led by pastors.
Who who who are? Um not afraid to take a stand on an issue, and and and move forward with it. Rise up and we can do this. But most of the pulpits are silent. They won't want anything to do with politics because they're afraid of.
Losing their 501c3 status or their woke themselves or indoctrinated with woke. staff from woke limit you know seminaries and things like that so I don't think it's a good idea. I think that the communities need to write up hold their political leaders accountable. And start change from that way rather than The heavy-handed because it could easily be used the next time against us. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
And we're seeing this all across the country. I applaud Pastor Jack for what he's doing. I think every church in America should be stepping up and speaking out against these social issues that are confronting mainly our children. That's who they're attacking. That's who Satan's going after.
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong. Just as well funded. Welcome back to the extended version of Understanding the Times. I'm Ken Michael, along with Pastor Josh Schwartz, and we're continuing our conversation with Pete Garcia.
So, Pete, where we left off in the radio program and YouTube version, this is the extended version. We're talking about the nationalization or the National Guard coming into play, going into cities and helping the police police their areas, their cities, specifically in Washington, D.C. And we were talking about that, you know. And you had mentioned in the program that there are certainly some downfalls to doing this, and that is if the other side takes over, you could see the Well, you can see the weaponization of the government like we've seen in the last few years. What's your take on that?
Yeah, you know, right now with all the efforts on redistricting redistricting and and um abolishing mail-in votes and things like that. It doesn't seem right now, especially because the Democrat Party is in such disarray and they don't have any clear. leadership coming from any sector or quadrant of their party. It doesn't seem likely right now that they'll win, but let's just assume that Vance wins, right? J.D.
Vance becomes the vice president, and then somebody comes in and his his is his uh Vice President. And he takes over in 2028. It doesn't have to be necessarily the bad guy to make this a bad idea. Because all it takes is a crisis, the right kind of crisis for the government to have a knee-jerk reaction. And to begin, uh implementing military control over you know All major cities, or a majority of the major cities, are strategic places.
Even if it's done for good intent, the fact is that we've broken the mold. on this and we've allowed it to happen.
Now it's happened in the past from time, you know, I think in Was in Alabama in the civil rights movement. The guard was deployed to the university, so they're the The um Penn State, I believe. What's that? I believe in Penn State.
So it seems like there's been times in the past, but largely presidents have tried to avoid this. But D C has been in such a state of crisis for so long. that it was just one more thing. uh that that was kind of the trigger and so Now, Trump has been talking about this for a long time. Stephen Miller.
Hit one of his chief advisors has been posted on the whitehouse.gov website. All the different times that Trump has mentioned this. And I want to say it's like somewhere around 12 times over the last three or four years. that they really needed to get control of the crime because they have gangs operating. You had MS-13, Trende Aragua.
You had your traditional crimes groups, gangs like the Crips, the Bloods, all the other groups. DC was just a boiling pot of all kinds of nefarious activity going on. Right. And that That is part and parcel with the Democrat plan. Because they can get these folks to Rise up.
In a moment's notice, and start protesting violently with strategically placed piles of bricks that just appear there magically overnight. Uh there's um cash incentives from George Soros Open Society Foundation. That funnels monies through all different kinds of groups to these people to go out there. And they're basically paid to go out there and cause mayhem to riot. And so when you clear out the criminal element from all around DC, from downtown DC.
That reduces the uh amount of ability that These leftist types of groups of Marxists and others, anarchists, can operate freely. They can't. You're taking away a lot of their cover. Sure.
So they don't like this at all. Yeah, I agree.
So let's go back to that clip we heard. What did you make of that? I remember hearing that when I was still in law enforcement, where Obama said we need a civil police basically to police the police. I didn't quite know what he meant at the time, but are we seeing that play out right now in real time where you have these groups coming together that are anti-government, these social Marxist groups that you said are springing up, that George Soros groups and all that that are being well-funded? Is that what we're seeing right now?
I think they're trying to to to create a groundswell. In um And this is a last-ditch Hail Mary attempt to try and. Um Either undo, slow down, or um hamstring the Trump administration with cities that are kind of out of control. And unfortunately, it's going to take Trump. bringing in the guard and and clearing and using ICE and using the FBI And every agency that he has at his disposal.
to clear out the criminal elements from DC. And but it's also a bad look because then you know it looks like he's trying to take over, and that's what the mainstream media is trying to play on. But I don't think at this point Trump really cares anymore because it doesn't matter what he does. He could cure cancer and they're still going to find ways to spin it negatively. And you know Try and come up with some kind of narrative that he created cancer so that he could cure it or something.
Ridiculous like that. It seems like that was the plan that the Obamas, the Uh Clintons and and the um the folks behind the scenes there, the Democrat side. Had going forward that they wanted the civilian police force. That essentially was their own kind of like brown shirts, you know. Uh Mm-hmm.
they would go around and kind of and making sure that that law enforcement Toad that politically correct line, that they were using the proper pronouns, that they were. Uh you know ensuring the rights of criminals over the citizenry. Um And if they don't follow the rules, then the police would get punished.
So I think that was kind of the initial intent. But thank goodness that was never came to light. And all we're left with now is these kind of rabble-rousers that are paid by George Soros and Alex Soros. And all the different umbrella corporations that they run, charity organizations, I think that is all coming to an end as well. I think Trump is turning his sights and has turned his sights not just on the cartels, but.
On the economic cartels of all the different nonprofits and charities that the Soros Foundation's. Have funded over the last 20, 30 years. And so I think that if he lives long enough, they are going to absolutely target him and come after him as well if they haven't already.
So, again, I think that was kind of the plan going forward with Obama, but. You know, I don't think he could see. For C. Trump winning, neither could he foresee Biden being as terrible as he was. I I think that plane is probably dead in the water I'm hoping is dead.
Personally. You mentioned these other groups that could come in and try and do some type of law enforcement. In Minneapolis, we witnessed that. Uh, after the George Floyd incident, they developed this group called Violence Interrupters, and they were paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to go out into the community and try and fight crime. Uh, it hasn't worked.
Uh but they're still being paid.
So I think in these Blue cities, these blue democratic cities where violence and lawlessness and anarchy still go on. They're still being deployed.
So what can we do to prevent this, if anything, because this is still going on. We're still seeing these blue states, these blue cities deploying these people, these paid protesters. What is there anything we can do to stop this?
Well, if it's being paid for from taxpayer funds, you know, obviously that's why Doge immediately set their sights on USAID. Um To, which is largely a CIA front for destabilizing countries around the world. They do good things as well, which is unfortunate for those organizations that are actually out there doing good things that they got. wrapped up underneath USAID. But USAID is just the tip of the iceberg.
I mean, there's money coming from all different sectors of the federal government in all sorts of grift operations and. Money laundering schemes and whatnot.
So Um I think from a government taxpayer funded standpoint, They are doing more. In the first, I don't know, what's been six months, seven months? Uh Or eight months, I guess, of this administration. Then that's been done in the last 20, 30 years. to combat this type of uh bureaucratic corruption.
And I think underneath that, um You know, it's if it's if it's money that's coming from elsewhere. Uh you know, that's going to be um Largely FBI, CIA type-led operations that we were probably not going to know about until after they're completed. I would imagine that all of Soros's organizations are under. Intense scrutiny now that the leaderships have changed with the FEI and with. The CIA and NSA, et cetera.
So, I think that they are very much going to go after him and his whole network prior to. the next election, maybe even before the midterms, but If they can get the mail-in ballots thing squashed, if they can get the redistricting. Issues addressed and then removing all of the cleaning up the voting rolls and stuff. I think the midterm for the Republicans is going to be a sweep. Um Again, the Democrats don't have anybody on their side right now that is competent.
Coherent. Uh Yeah. Anybody that can lead anything out of a wet paper bag.
So they're just struggling right now. The best they have is Gavin Newsom, and he's basically destroyed. California.
So, I mean, not basically, he has destroyed California.
So, absolutely. Um, if that's the best they can do, then we're a shoe-in for. for the midterms and the next election. Yeah, so when I talk to friends and family who aren't paying attention really to what's going on, it's just what they hear on the local news or Maybe from the mainstream media. What I try and tell them is: it looks like this is.
Obama's plan coming to fruition and now Um Finally, something's being done to combat it. I call it the deep state. I know you mentioned that. But a lot of people don't believe there really is a deep state. Can you explain or tell people, is there really a deep state that's behind the scenes, pulling the strings and controlling the government?
And can this administration do anything to stop it or completely stop it?
So yeah, there is There is a deep state. And it's multilayered.
So at the at the very tippy Or at the bottom, I guess, at the very, very bottom. is what you would have as your your normal foot soldiers. The anarchists, the Antifa types, the Black Lives Matter, agitators, all that kind of stuff. Those are the the foot soldiers that get paid by the middlemen. who then get paid by Another organization, and that's how the Source Foundation, the Open Societies.
Operates. It's an umbrella with like hundreds of little organizations under with all kinds of weird names and weird. Things and it seems innocuous, and it seems very kind of on the surface benign, but. Under through that is where all this money is coming to do all this great violence out there.
So, um You have from those organizations, obviously, the people leading those organizations. then answer to somebody higher to them, which would be. Uh those folks Immediately surrounding George Soros and Alex Soros. And then the leaders of those particular types of international Uh Fundraising organization. I'm not sure, really, sure, how you identify them.
But those monies also go into the pockets of politicians, and this has gone back. you know, in American politics since Tammany Hall. I mean, You're talking about there's always been various levels of political corruption. Um Has it it's never been as organized as it was during the Clinton-Obama years And what Trump tried to do, you know, he kind of went into his first term rather naively. Not realizing how deep and how wide the swamp was.
And how much the Republican Party itself was kind of entrenched in that as well. Yeah, that was a huge problem. Paul Ryan's, you know, all the the different uh um Romney's, McCain, Don McCain. I mean, they were taking money hand and fist. And there's still plenty of politicians up there taking money.
from special interest groups and from all that.
So that's also a form of Of the deep state where people are exerting influence through financial donations, contributions, et cetera. Uh then Taking it to that level where, when we associate the term deep state, what are we thinking? We're thinking of the guys in the back smoky room. You know, twisting their mustaches and coming up with, you know, planning evil plans, you know. Are hatching evil plans so.
There are groups like that that operate very secretly. They don't probably call themselves the deep state. I don't even know if they call themselves anything, but they. They definitely meet in the Bilderbergers meetings, you know, that's closed to the press. It's all hush-hush and very top-secret.
Um You know, all the stuff, the small groups within the hierarchy of the World Economic Forum. Um You know, these people are exerting massive amounts of influence around the world. Many of them are not even elected officials.
So. why are they exerting as much influence as they they have? And That goes to the very top, which I think is the satanic order, the spiritual domain. That is influencing mankind and their puppets to do and carry out the things they need to have done so that the final kingdom, the beast kingdom, can be set up. And everything that we've seen in the last, I don't know, 125 years has been, seems like it's been geared toward setting up the final beast kingdom.
whether we're talking about the Federal Reserve Act. Um you know The Great Depressions, World War I and World War II, the United Nations. All the the you know CERN, I mean, we could go into all of those different things, but they all seem to be driving us to the world of Revelation 13.
So They are they are the deep state, but it's multi-level. And it kind of depends on which level you're talking about. It irks me that the military, that we pride ourselves In mastering every domain, right?
So we mastered land, sea, and air. We begin delving into space. And we've definitely been involved in cyberspace and we've been involved in subterranean operations. The one domain that they refuse to address is the spiritual domain. And the fact that now, I mean, well, I'm saying in times past, now it seems like.
it this conversation is now becoming more and more open Where, whether we're talking about UFOs, that they are not necessarily little green men, they are demonic. Or fallen angels, or that they're interdimensional. That stuff's being mentioned in Congress now at those types of hearings. And that is at least a positive sign that. The rest of the government will recognize that it's not just the flesh and blood that we're combating against, but there's also spiritual forces that are exerting.
tremendous amounts of influence non-stop. On these weak-minded leftists and anarchists, and basically anybody that's not plugged into the Holy Spirit. or it's born again. Is can be used like a tool by these forces to accomplish their will.
So Yes, there is a deep state. Yeah, I totally agree with you, Pete. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And the other thing we've got to clean up is our own house. We need to clean up the CIA, the FBI, Justice Department, State Department.
I mean, they've played a huge influence in what's going on nefariously in our government.
So, well, that's it for today. I want to thank you, Pete. How can people get in touch with you?
So I'm on YouTube, Rev310. Just look me up there. I'm on Rumble. I think it's under Pete Garcia. And then um Instagram.
Facebook And I think X, it's just look up Rev310. And um I think that's it. And then the website, Rev310.net. Yeah. Awesome.
Well, Pete Garcia, I want to thank you for joining us today. Take care, and God bless you and your ministry. Thank you, Ken and Josh. Appreciate it. Yeah, Josh, as believers, we shouldn't be surprised at the violence and lawlessness we're seeing.
And we know in the last days, it's not going to get better. It's probably going to get worse. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Paul talks about how lawlessness will prevail in the last days as days draw nearer and nearer to the tribulation and ultimately the return of Jesus. And we must understand that the rapture is going to happen before that.
John himself says this in 1 John chapter 3, verse 4. Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness. Friends, we live in dark, dark days where lawlessness and sin prevails. But we are called to be salt and light in the world and in the places in which God has placed us.
So I'd encourage you, you have to stand for truth. You have to stand for God's word. And most importantly, you have to stand for the gospel. We are called to be his ambassadors and his witnesses where he has placed us in the times in which he has placed us.
So stand firm. the scriptures and trust in them. Proclaim Jesus. Amen.
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