Cake, coffee, and Freemasonry. I am with a friend of mine who has written a book. And friends, get ready. Hope you're sitting down. I'm sitting down.
I don't know if I can take it sitting down. Greg Hennant has written a book called Freemasonry, an expose, shining light on Freemasonry's dark teaching. Now, Greg, we all have an uncle or an aunt or maybe someone's listening that's like, hey, I'm a 33 degree Mason.
This is very deeply ensconced in our founders, in our culture, in our country. A lot of folks associate Masonry with the faith. Tell me why you wrote this book and why you want to stir up a hornet's list right here on Truth Talk. Because actually I had one of my sons that I found out this summer had become a Mason, probably in a sense of honor for his maternal grandfather and great-grandfather.
The great-grandfather was a Grand Master of the North Carolina Masonic Lodge and also a big Shriner. And so he got involved and I was pretty much taken aback by it and so that led me to get interested in the subject more. I wrote a piece on it and put it on Facebook and then a publisher saw that and said, hey, do me a research paper. So in the process of doing the research paper, it became a book. And I read it early on and I'm like, oh my soul, this is going to get some people going.
And it got me going and it's already raised an air. In fact, the guy, we were at Wednesday in the Word and one of our guys overheard us talking about it. He says, wait a second, I'm a summit degree Mason.
How can you do this? Yeah, I tell you, you run into that all over. I was presenting this in Greensboro last week and was talking to them about the Masonic funeral talk. And according to the strict text of that, they did not mention the name of Jesus at all. And so I think they referred to him in their generic Masonic terms and that is so they won't offend people of any particular religion. So anyway, I was mentioning that to him and he said, wait a minute, I was at a Masonic funeral and they talked about Jesus. I said, well, that was the choice of the people who were hosting that funeral. I said, but it was not in the Masonic talk. The name of Jesus is not mentioned. That was one of the things that shook me up when I went to my paternal uncle's funeral this past summer that I was there.
I witnessed it and I saw that the name of Jesus was not mentioned in the end. They'll say higher power. They'll say the divine. They'll say, you know, yeah, the architect of the universe, that type of language.
But it's always generic, nonspecific and does not mention the name of Jesus. He's Dr. Greg Hennet and he loves talking about Jesus and he is brought to the light some of the darkness of Freemasonry. Very informational, very educational.
We're at a cool little cake shop having some coffee in High Point, North Carolina, where you're from, Greg. You got this book and I don't want to give away too much, but I do want to get you started on that piece of cake right there. It's calling your name out.
It's calling out to you. Chapter one, if you could just, I want to go through each chapter. You've got five of them. If you could give a quick, just a brief synopsis of each chapter, like a couple sentences on each chapter, if you would, okay? But I want people to get the book to read it themselves, even if they disagree. This is worth, you know, we're talking about stuff that's consequential to eternity. So, chapter one, looking back, historical perspectives. Yeah, I'm going back to the origins of the stonemasons in Europe, and they were the origins of the modern Masonic society. And, of course, they were built, the great builders of the cathedrals, the stone cathedrals. They had certain trade secrets, which they wanted to keep, to ensure that they would have the next job when the next cathedral was built. And so, that went on for two or three centuries.
And so, at that point, there was nothing really secretive or dark about the organization. Before I jump to chapter two, I want to make it clear, this show and this book you've written isn't to disrespect amazing craftsmen that have spent their life building things. I mean, where would we be if we didn't have builders?
Where would we be if we didn't have our founders? But what you're trying to do is have Christians go deeper into what we believe in. I mean, tell me, is that, did I frame that correctly?
Yes. And this, first of all, this book is examining the modern secret society known as the Freemasons, not the ancient craft of masonry or anyone in that craft today. But also, as far as the Freemasons are concerned, we're not trying to disrespect any of these men. We realize that many of them are deceived.
They've not been informed of the core teachings of their own secret society. And this book is for that purpose. Okay. So, chapter one, looking back, give a good history of different people that, you know, in history and antiquity that were involved in this, even in Europe. Chapter two, looking in, examining Freemasons' working parts. Give us a sense or two on that.
Yeah. That's just to update someone who knows nothing at all about this secret society, how they go about their meetings. They have secret meetings, usually monthly. They have someone posted at the door to be sure no one gets in.
There's secret handshakes and secret passwords. And everything in the meeting is highly ritualized and formalized, if you want to call it that way. And they have an altar. They have a Bible on the altar. At least in America, they have a Bible on the altar, which gives the semblance of being a Christian organization. But it is not. And anyone who is inducted even in the first degree ceremony will recognize there's something dark and pagan about what's going on. Okay. Chapter three, looking deeper, examining Freemasonry's core heresies. Yeah. And this is the biggie. This chapter and the next chapter examine what's really wrong at the heart of this organization. And, you know, generally speaking, as Christians, we have different doctrinal interpretations of various texts.
And it's not a problem at all. But when you're dealing with soteriology, which is salvation doctrine, it is essential. It is essential.
It's life and death. So in here, in this chapter, I go into the core heresies, which they teach. Simply put, they teach salvation by works, by keeping the Masonic code. That if you keep the Masonic code, regardless of your belief in God, the name of your God, or any religion that you adhere to, you will go to heaven by keeping the Masonic code, which is absolute heresies and salvation by works. And that's a little bit rolled into chapter four, looking through. So you've got looking back, looking in, looking deeper, looking through, penetrating Freemasonry's facade, where someone comes in, they see a Bible on the table, see a bunch of guys that go to church and Bible, apparently Bible believing, but they think, well, I'm joining a good fellowship group. It's like a small group Bible study, but it's absolutely the opposite of that. Is that what you're saying in chapter four?
Yes. Actually, the Masonic organization is set up intentionally using Christian symbols and texts to create the air of being a Christian organization. And many men are taken in by this and fooled. But what I'm pointing out of the book is the scriptures are clearly in contradiction, contradistinction to what the Masons are teaching in their doctrine. And I go into 12 different points, which identify the Masonic society as a religion, and they will vociferously deny that. Their apologists are very skilled and they know what to deny, but it is a fact. And there are 12 different points that define them as a religion. Their own, and I quote their own sources, Albert Pike and others, Joseph Ford Newton, and they clearly established the fact that the Masonic organization is a religion.
It's not merely religious. Okay. Now give us a quick sentence on chapter five, looking forward, our course of action. After you do that, we'll take a quick break and come back because I know our listeners want to know about blood oaths and some of the stuff that you're, they're not even supposed to talk about, you know, secret passwords, secret handshakes and all that, that aren't just a joke. It's real stuff, but quickly chapter five, looking forward to the hope you give and the action you give to everybody, give us a sense of that and then we'll come right back.
Yes. Truth creates an obligation for action always. And so in this case, once we've been informed that here's an organization that is teaching deadly heresy, and these men are appealing through the business organization, professional organizations, they're appealing to our sons and our grandsons, et cetera, and to our daughters and our wives because there is a female organization, the Eastern Star, and Rainbow is the young girls organization.
De Malay is the young boys association. They're appealing to our family and relatives. And so when we know this, we've got to, we're obligated to put out the word about what the nations believe, what they teach and the deadly heresies that are involved in the, in the organization. I want to dive deeper into some of those, talk about a cliffhanger, but we're going to come right back after this quick break with Dr. Greg Hennet, the author of Freemasonry and Expose. Quite controversial. We're going to be, I'm getting some mail for this, but we want to talk about it. We want to say, Hey, if something, if we're saying something to air call and Greg would love to dialogue with you and we'll give you his information, his website. When we come back shining light on Freemasonry, Freemasonry's dark teaching is the subtitle of Dr. Greg Hennet's book, Freemasonry and Expose.
Five chapters, pretty heavy. We'll come back with some practical takeaways and a couple of challenges right here on Truth Talk. I'm Stu Everson.
Don't touch that dial back right after this quick break. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. The truth about Freemasonry. Dr. Greg Hennet has written this book. He's written 18 books. This guy teaches, he preaches, he's an academician. He loves Jesus. How did you come to Christ? I want to get back in your book on Freemasonry, Dr. Hennet, but how did you come to know the Lord?
What, what, what, when, when did your life change by Jesus? Yeah, I was a 16 year old at High Point Central High School on the football team. We were getting ready for a, uh, a playoff game. Some guys came and they were witnessing about Christ playing the guitar and talking about the Lord.
One of them actually is the publisher of this book, Mike Shreve, Dr. Mike Shreve. We reconnected after 50 years, but anyway, we heard them. I went out to the, to their meeting. It was a little, a little independent church. I was radically saved, uh, walk with the Lord a few months, then got offended and fell away. I was a Cardinal Christian for about a year and a half and then, uh, heard a message on the second coming and the fear of God really came on me. I really knew that this was a reality and, and this is something that, you know, I needed to be ready for. And so it turned me back to really become a full disciple of Christ when I was at App State, uh, the end of my freshman year. And you and I have met off and on throughout the years, but it's been fun to reconnect more and you give me some of your books.
What a blessing. And you know, it's one thing to write on the second coming, which interesting enough could be controversial and some of the other things you've written on. But man, when you, when you started to stir the waters of Freemasonry, I mean, what kind of a feedback have you got? You told me that you told us you got a lot of positive, but have you had some criticism?
Have you made some folks upset? I mean, this is deep in their heritage. This is, this is their brotherhood.
They've taken a blood oath to, blood oath to, to protect the brethren. Yeah. Yeah. So far so good. But of course this book is just coming out now. We just got our, our lot literally Friday. And so we're just, you're just getting this message out. We're putting it out on Facebook. The publisher is going to fully, um, um, publicize the release.
Also, we're going to be in touch with various media outlets for interviews and such. So the word is just getting out now. So we expect some negative response. That's always to be expected when you're doing anything that's really attacking the kingdom of darkness. The strength of Satan and his occult works is to keep them hidden. So anything that brings them to life, he does not like it, but Hey, I'm ready for it. You know, God's grace is sufficient.
We want to help people. This is about saving men from the delusion that keeping the Masonic code will take them to heaven. A great man of God once said, you know, you never win an argument. It's about winning souls, not arguments. And so you're not really looking to engage in an acrimonious battle, bloody battle with someone who's, who's big in their Freemasonry.
You want to say, Hey, let's, let's examine, come now let us reason together. Like the prophet said, and let's look at the word of God up against this. And you talk about that as soon as you go beyond what is written, you get into trouble, don't you? Correct. That's right. Yes. And um, uh, for many years now, I've been, uh, pastors and, and some scholars will consult me for polemical questions.
One of my position on a certain doctrine, what did the scripture say about it? So I've done this for quite a, quite a, you know, quite a few years, but this is the first time I've written a polemical book, uh, in particular on a controversial subject such as this. Wow. So Greg Hennet, you've written this book, the first segment of this broadcast slash podcast over, everyone will download this later.
If you're just catching us late, it's okay. I'm, this is truth talk. I'm Stu Everson. We're having some great coffee and some great cake in here. And it's a, it's a great atmosphere.
And I came to your hometown, high point university, high point, high point, North Carolina, home of high point university of the street and in this great little bakery here. And we're, we're hanging out, having coffee, talking about this book, chapter one, looking back historical perspectives. You gave all that chapter two, looking in examining Freemasons, you working parts, chapter three, looking at the core heresies.
That's a strong word. We talked about that some too, looking, looking through chapter four, penetrating Freemasons, Reese facade, and chapter five, looking forward our course of action. And I want to talk about that because we're called to be witnesses. We're, you know, we're called not so much go witnessing.
We're called to be witnesses, but as we are going, we're to let our light shine. How do our listeners engage their friends who are Mason's? Let's ask that question first and then we'll ask about how do our listeners who are Mason's?
What do they do? I mean, they've been in this, it's been in six generations, their family going back to whatever. Yeah. I bring out in the book that that submission to the teachings of Masonry actually brings one down to under a dark spiritual covering over your soul and your household. And it is a, it is a very serious thing. So if you're a Mason and you're not a Christian, you need to be saved. You need to come to Christ and be saved. You need to get out of the organization immediately Paul said in Ephesians have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reproof them. So that's what we're dealing with when we're talking about a secret society that is that mimics the church and it does mimics the church in both his salvation role and his sanctification role. And it poses to be the sanctuary for a sound and sweet fellowship. Well, that's supposed to be the church's position.
So they mimic the church in many, many ways. So you need to get out of the organization, first of all, so that you can be free of that spiritual covering. That's, that's over the Masonic organization. And then you need to tell others the same thing. And so one way to do it would be to get this book, the book is a short, easy reads 140 pages, one of the shortest books I've ever written.
And it's very simply written. I'm not getting into every single thing that's associated with the Masonic organization. But I'm hitting the prime truths that they teach, the message that they teach, and what the Bible says about that. And Greg, just, just by someone leaving an organization doesn't make them a believer just by joining organization doesn't make a believer. Joining a church doesn't make you a believer, you know, but but but the, you know, people walk in, there's a there's a shroud of, of a facade, you use that word in your book, of the faith, you got Bibles in there, you have people talking about God. I've been to funerals where they talk about God, they'll never bring up Jesus, though, right?
Yes. And that's a good point on the facade, because I take time in the book to, to talk about the front that's put up the facade by Masons in their appeal to young men and to women and men. And they talk about their good works.
And I affirm they do good work that they do significant charitable works. And then great men have been Masons, I affirmed that many great men have been Masons. And then the question is posed, how could someone how could men who are so great make such a catastrophically wrong decision about joining this organization?
The answer is very simple. World of greatness, and spiritual greatness are two different things entirely. And so many men who are great in the world have no spiritual discernment.
And they don't guide their decisions by the authority of what the Word of God says. Now someone may say, well, this young man over here. He's a good family man. He's a good, you know, Southern Baptist or United Methodist, whatever. And he's down there, the Masons, I mean, he could have joined the blood in the Crips, he could have joined a horrible cartel, you know, he could be you have bodies in his, in his trunk of his car, they could be but he's, he's over there building chivalry, they're giving back to the community, they're hosting bake sales there, you know, this, what do you say to someone like that to say, you know, well, it could be a lot worse.
Yeah. And this is another point I make, I do not speak against goodness. I'm not going to speak against goodness, anybody that's doing something good.
They're teaching good moral principles. That's good. You can't make something not good out of what is good.
Don't want to do that. But the problem is that it poses, it poses as a cover for deep heretical teachings that will take people straight to hell if they don't get corrected. So there's nothing wrong about it in itself. But if something good is used as a facade behind which core heresy is hidden, it ceases to be good.
Yeah. Dr. Greg Hennant is his name, his book, free masonry and expose a very controversial, as we have tons of masons in our country. And hey, let me tell you something, God loves you. And there's a reason that you're hearing this right now. And don't direct your anger at me or Dr. Greg. I didn't write this book he did, but I did review it. And I am interviewing him.
So I'm on the hot seat there. But take that anger and direct it toward the Bible and ask God to do what? Give us a give us a good takeaway, brother Greg. Yeah, if I guess the most valuable return on this book would be to prompt men who are masons and who also are Christians, but have been undiscerning about this matter, and they may not be very biblically literate as well.
Let this prompt you to get into the Word of God for yourself to search this and to search the internet for other sound biblical sources on what this organization is teaching and how it differentiates from sound Orthodox Christian doctrine, evangelical doctrine. You talked about blood oaths and blood covenants. We talked you know, and I tease that coming in this break.
We never talked about this segment. But real quick, is that true? And tell us real quick the extent of that we're almost out of time. Yeah, the blood obligations of the blood oaths are still taken. They're caused they're euphemized as obligations. The obligations are taken, but those are blood oaths. They do retain that.
They're super sensitive about it because they know it is such an objectionable thing, but they still do it. So any Christian who would vow to cut his throat from side to side and have his body disemboweled if he is unfaithful to a vow to his brother masons, you cannot do that. If you're a Bible believing Christian, it would just those words would drive on your tongue. I think of first john where says the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sins. So we got to be really careful.
And Jesus is the only one we should be willing to spill our blood for not the Masonic code or organization. It belongs to him. It's all his. So folks, I hope this has been a blessing to you.
I hope it's got you thinking and challenge you. And that's kind of one thing we do. We comfort the afflicted. We afflicted comfortable here on truth talk every week. Thank you to all of our wonderful affiliates are brave enough to carry this show. Thank you to our producer St. Nick give the book How can folks find this book Freemasonry and expose a Dr. Greg in it?
How can they get it? Oh, he's showing it to you right now. Okay, Greg Hinnett ministries.org. And just you Google Greg Hinnett H I n n a n t. Check out all his great books, his teachings.
He's on YouTube pretty regularly. You've done some cool things on marriage recently, which you'll share with me some other things. So tap into this, and you'll be blessed. You'll be encouraged to be challenged. Greg Hinnett H I n a n t ministries.org. Hey, thanks for hanging out with us today, man. You're welcome. Glad to be here.
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