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A Christian author exposes the dark teachings and false salvation doctrine of Freemasonry, revealing its satanic influence and warning of its potential to lead people to hell. He discusses the organization's secretive nature, its claim to perfect spiritual and moral character, and its ultimate goal of uniting humanity without Jesus. The author also shares a personal story of leaving the Masonic Lodge and encourages others to do the same, citing the importance of following Christ and avoiding false doctrine.

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We'll be right back. On Freemasonry's Dark Teachings. And so, Dr. Gregg, what got you even interested in the subject?

Well, I was doing a post this summer on Freemasonry, and I was noticed by a publisher, Dr. Mike Shreve, and he asked me to do some research on it, a lengthier paper, which I did, and it quickly turned into a book. Absolutely. And we wanted to kind of say this at the beginning as well. We are not coming against people who are in the lower levels of Freemasonry, and there's a lot of people, from what I understand, they may not know actually, you know, how bad it could actually be and stuff like that. But we do want to let people know what it is and what's going on. I've got a Bible verse right here, and it's Ephesians 5-11, and it says, Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

And really, that's what I see you doing with this book. But, you know, when I heard about Freemasonry, I just thought it was another organization. I've heard of Rotary Club, I've heard of the Lions, all these other organizations, and I said, Oh, it's just another one. And they even gave me a free lunch, I think back in 2008, when I was living in Savannah.

They were nice, they were friendly, all of that. But I started to look into it, Greg, and it was probably about 5-10 years ago, and I really realized kind of what was going on there. So when you first started to look into this, what did you see? Well, actually, I've been familiar with it for years, but I've not done an in-depth study.

But this past summer, I did that, in great depth, in examining its history and what it taught. And the object of all this, Michael, and you sort of hit upon this, is not to attack the men who are Masons, but really to set them free. Because these men are under satanic bondage to damning heresy. It is false soteriology, for those who don't know that term, that's salvation doctrine. And it's false salvation doctrine. And if they believe what their Masonic philosophers and teachers are telling them in the Masonic degree language that they used when they advanced from one degree to the next, and if they believe that and they have never called on Jesus to be saved, these men will go to hell thinking that they are headed for the Celestial Masonic Lodge. And they're not.

Yeah, absolutely. And when I see this, a lot of the people who get into it, there are people who get into it from the church. And I've even heard that there are pastors who were Freemasons.

How could that be? Well, because for our seminaries, and this is a well-known fact by Bible scholars and academicians, our seminaries for, gosh, 50 years have been going increasingly liberal. And, of course, liberal theology teaches that the Bible contains the Word of God, but it is not entirely the Word of God. And so we have lots of people in our pulpits who just simply don't believe it in the authority of Scripture. They don't believe the Reformation mantra, Sola Scriptura. And, therefore, if they don't believe it, they can't teach it with authority, and they're not going to govern their lives by what the Scriptures say.

So, when it comes to something like Freemasonry, they just sort of slough off the apparent differences between the Bible and the Masonic code and think nothing of it. So that's why you have ministers. And, of course, many ministers across the board are not born again. Many are not born again.

Now, an evangelical pastor should be, but many in Christendom are not born again, and so they don't have that determination to stand loyally by the Word of God. Yeah, and so, you know, we can sit here and say, well, they never know, or they never really knew what they were getting into when they first got in. But even that initial pledge, when they first become a mason, do you know about that a little bit? Yeah, and that's a good point, because the only ones who would be completely fooled by this would be those who I would say would be biblically illiterate. And, of course, you have many Christians who are biblically illiterate. You've got whole churches that don't teach the Word of God hardly at all. But if they were biblically illiterate at all, the first time they entered the lodge and they were told the verbiage, the wording, to the first degree ceremony, they would immediately know that something was dark and wrong, because, you want me to just take a moment?

Please, yes. To tell the listeners what happens is that the initiate is led outside the lodge, his shirt is removed, one of his shoes and socks are removed, a noose is put around his neck, blindfold over his eyes, and he is led by the warden, one of the officers of the lodge, back into the lodge. He kneels at the altar, and before the worshipful master, who is the leader of the lodge, he says something to the effect of this, that I am in the darkness and I'm seeking the light of Freemasonry. Now, no Christian could say that, because Jesus is the light of the world, and he said that if we believe on him, we will not walk in darkness. And the church is the light of the world, Christ is in us, so no Christian could say that, no true born again Christian could say it. So it's a very dark statement from the very first, and it's blasphemous, it's denying that Christ alone is the light. Now when you talk to the Freemason lecturers who are their apologists, they're very well trained, they know how to deflect these questions, and they will say, oh no, that's not divine light, that's just the light of how to be a better man, a better father, a better husband. But that's a lie, that's a lie. I talked to one of the leading lecturers here in North Carolina, out of the Greensboro lodge, and he told me that very thing, and I talked to other Masonic representatives as well, that's a ball-faced lie.

When you look at their sources, Albert Mackey, when you look at Albert Pike and Mackey and others, Joseph Ford Newton, they will clearly tell you that the light that is spoken of is the light of divine knowledge, divine light, there's no question about it. And of course this brings up another point that the real sages of the Masonic order intentionally keep the inner meanings of their philosophy and teachings from the rank and file, what we call the blue lodge member, those who have just taken one of the first three degrees. So they're deceptive outwardly, they're deceptive inwardly. Well, and let me, I've got something right here, and this is supposedly what they actually say. They say, binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the rough sands of the sea at low watermark where the tide ebbs and flows twice in 24 hours, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this, my solemn oath and obligation as an entered apprenticed mason. So help me God and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.

Well, Craig, I was thinking about this. I mean, when we join the church, we say, I mean, this is what we say, binding myself under no, we're going to get our throats cut, our tongue torn out by the roots and buried in the... No, I'm kidding. No church would ever tell you that, but at the same time, I mean, this is evil. Yeah, but actually, you draw an interesting parallel, though, and for this reason, is that a Christian, first of all, is told by Christ in the Sermon on the Mount not to take any oaths. We're not to swear or swear by God or the temple, etc. But when it comes to this particular oath, it is a vow to be loyal to the death, to the secrets of the Masonic order and to the brethren. And to fail to do that would be to invoke murder upon oneself.

Well, the reason that's an interesting parallel is that Christians today should so love each other so passionately that we would die for Christ or for our brothers and sisters in Christ, not in the Masonic Lodge. Absolutely. And so we're going to we're going to be coming back in just a minute. But when we come back, give us a call. 866-348-7884.

I'm sure we have some questions for Dr. Greg, but 866-34-TRUTH. And we will be right back in a minute with Freemasonry. And guys, you want to pick up this book? It's Freemasonry and Exposé by Greg Hennett.

You're listening to the Truth Network and Truth Network dot com. Hey, this is Michael Zwick. I am back with Greg Hennett, the author of the book Freemasonry and Exposé.

And I wanted to start off with this for the second segment, Greg. It's Luke 817, and it says, For nothing is secret that shall not be made manifest, neither anything hid that shall not be known and come abroad. And when I think about in the Christian life, we don't have a secret society. There is nothing that we do behind closed doors that nobody knows about or anything like that.

Jesus is the light of the world and we share our light. Everything is going to be revealed and it's not hidden. But that's kind of the opposite of Freemasonry. Yeah, it is a secretive organization. It's not like the Lion's Club or the Civic Club or the Key Club or something, or the Moose, because this religious element we will probably get into in a few moments, but also the secretive element. And so the Masons see themselves as an extension of the ancient mystery religions in the Roman era.

Cybele, Demeter, Mithras, others, and so they see themselves continuing that tradition in the modern age. But their meetings are secret. That in and of itself is not necessarily wrong or a sin for a Christian to have a secret meeting. A lot of times pastors meet in secret.

Right, right, right. But the problem here is that they have very dark heresy which they're hiding. But to give you another parallel, the early church met in secret because they were actually an illegal religion in the Roman era. They were seen originally as an extension of Judaism which took a cover for them. But then the Jews distanced the Christians from them and they became exposed as an unauthorized religion. And so they met in secret. And today, right now while we're speaking, their Christians are meeting in secret in Iran and different parts of the world.

North Korea, and they have to, they're forced to, but not by choice. And again, they're not hiding some type of esoteric doctrine which is clearly unbiblical and even damning while they meet. Yeah, absolutely. And you said there was a religious aspect to this, but if you asked the Masons, they said, no, this is not a religion. But once again, they're hiding some stuff. Yeah, and their lecturers will tell you that they say that we're not a religion, we're just religious.

And of course, that's just simply smoke, that's smoke to hide the facts. In the book, I mentioned 12 different facts which identify them clearly as a religion. And I'm using, I think, the Oxford Dictionary definition of a religion which is a systematic belief in and worship of a deity or deities. So they clearly have a system, they clearly believe in a superior being, though they don't insist on adherence to faith in one particular deity. You just have to believe that there's a supreme being. But those 12 points that I've mentioned in the book clearly identify them as a religion, you know. And so there's no question about them being a religion. They have an altar in their lodges, and the altar is a place of religious sacrifice. If you don't find an altar, again, in the Civitan Club.

I don't think you do. And they give a name for God, and this is somewhat disputed, but the name is Jabulon, which is a combination of three different ancient deities. Yah, meaning an abbreviated form of Yahweh, the Hebrew God, and Bul is an abbreviation for Baal, the Phoenician God. And then the last syllable there is for the Egyptian god Osiris. And so they combine these names to form their own synthetic God, name for God. And so they do have that, and there's other elements that they are clearly identifiable as a religion. Yah, and you know, when I was thinking about this, because on the surface, you see, and by the way, the Shriners, they're all Masons, right?

Correct. All Shriners are Masons. Not all Masons are Shriners. But to be a Mason, to be a Shriner, you have to be at least a third degree Mason, which is a Master Mason. And so they look at the Shriners, and then the Masons. I'm sure they do a lot of projects that seem to be for the public good.

They are. And so when people look at that, and I think another positive is that people are always looking to fit in. People are always looking to be a part of something, and that's one of the reasons why people join as well.

Is that right? Yes, that's one of their appeals. I call them in the book, they're selling points, you know, when they are appealing to firemen or policemen or your listeners' sons and their daughters, because they're also female organizations for both girls, it's called Rainbows and the Ladies, and that's Eastern Star. When they're appealing to them, they bring this forth and say, you know, they say, we do good works.

I do. And they say that great people in history were Masons, and they were, and they say that we will help you to rise in prominence, and they do. And they will say that Masons always help fellow Masons, sometimes at great cost, they'll cross land and sea to help Masons. That's true. All these are true, and I don't try to deny them in the book.

I assert that they are true. The problem is that they're used as a façade. All these good things about the Masonic organization are used as a façade affront behind which there is false soteriology, false salvation doctrine.

And in a nutshell, it is that if you keep the Masonic behavior code, you will go to the Masonic lodge in heaven. That's a metaphor for the Christian heaven. Right. And of course, that is false, absolutely false. So it's, you know, we're right back to the old salvation by works thing, which is just a clear mark of a false form of religion or a false form of Christianity.

Yeah. And so when I look at this, it's 2 Corinthians 11 14, and it says, and no marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. And so if the Masons came out and they said, we're this secret organization, we're going to kill you. We're going to tear your heart in pieces. We're full of darkness. We're full of darkness. We're leading you straight to hell. Then nobody would want to join them because it's obvious that it's so bad.

And even when I see in the movies, Greg, you know, a lot of times the bad guy, he's got the horns, he looks dark, he looks mean, stuff like that. But a lot of times, even these other false religions like Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses, whatever it is, they're friendly. They're nice. They look out for each other. And by the way, I think some Christians could learn a few things from that. Yeah, it's kind of odd and kind of sad that sometimes they seem to have a better public witness, persona, appearance, etc. than we do, which should spur us to live more godly lives. But as far as their facade of goodness, another thing that they claim is that they take good men and make them better.

Well, who could object to that? But of course, the assumption is that you're good enough as you are. And Jesus said there is none good but one that is God. And we were so corrupt spiritually by the fall of Adam and the devastating effects of that, that God needed to come and end the person of his son and live under the law, righteously, die as our sacrifice so that he could then give us a new heart, a new spirit, and we could be completely remade from within. That's the glory and the story of Christianity. But Freemasonry offers no new birth and no new life, right?

Only Jesus offers that new birth and new life. And when we come back in just a moment, we're going to go a little bit deeper into actually something that happened that was really kind of got everybody's attention across the country. And I think you know where I'm going with this, right? Yeah. Well, hey, this is Michael Zwick, and I am back with Greg Hinnett, who wrote the book Freemasonry and Expose.

And man, it's just getting good, but it's about to get a lot better. In 1826, William Morgan, a resident of Batavia, New York, disappeared after announcing his intention to publish a book exposing Freemasonry's secrets. And you were telling us during the break that Freemasonry at this time was, well, go ahead.

Yeah, it was a very, it was a going thing. And the Freemasons were on the verge of taking over the power apparatuses through the country. The country was smaller then, the population was smaller. If you will recall, many people know this, the Masonic influence was very strong at the time of the founding of the country. George Washington was a Mason. Washington, D.C. has Masonic emblems all over the place. Many of the cornerstones for those government buildings, the original ones, were laid by the Masons. So the Masonic influence was very strong.

And then by the time of 1826, they were on the verge of simply taking over the, for instance, the sheriffs, the judges, and all these people of influence. Many of them were Masons. And so at that time, there was a gentleman named Captain William Morgan, and he was a Mason, had been one for years. And he was disillusioned, and he left the lodge, and he was writing a book.

He had his publisher, and the publisher actually had the draft of the book, I think the final draft, finished, and it was going to be published. This became known. He was going to expose the secrets of the craft, which of course he had taken a blood oath not to divulge.

And so the good Masonic brothers got together, and they had several meetings on what to do. Finally it was determined they had to do away with him. And this was all revealed later, after the fact, by one of the conspirators. And so they took him, and they took a boat out in the Niagara River, and they weighted him down and tossed him overboard. And so he drowned, obviously, and this became, once it was known, became a scandal.

There was some obfuscation there for a while in trying to blow smoke over, maybe he had gone to South America or gone somewhere else, but one of the conspirators broke on his deathbed and confessed the whole thing. And so it became known, and it spread around the country, what they had done, and so there was a violent and virulent reaction against everything Masonic. And there was actually a party for him called the Anti-Masonic Party, Anti-Mation Party. They put up a presidential candidate.

He lost, but they put him up. And so at that time, this whole Masonic power structure was rolled back. Finney, who was a... Charles Finney, a great revivalist. Charles G. Finney was himself a Mason, and he had come out of the Masonic Lodge. And when this came up, he led pastors all over the country in denouncing Masonry. They preached on it from their pulpits, and approximately by Finney's estimate, 50,000 Masons left the lodge. Now today, that would be like probably 2.5 million leaving the lodge, you know.

So if you want to project those figures to today's proportions, or use those proportions to project today's figures. So anyway, there was a significant event in American history, and it really, I think, in a sense, saved the country from excessive Masonic influence. Now they continued to rise off and on. They peaked in America in the 1950s, according to my statistics, my information. But they're still strong. They're still around.

You just don't see them, notice them as much. But they are there, and they were appealing to our listeners' sons and grandsons, daughters and granddaughters, to their wives. They're appealing to others to bring them into the lodge under this dark covering. Well, and you said there are three different occupations that they go after in particular. Yeah, particularly policemen and firemen, emergency workers, and military or ex-military. They appeal to them. They're particularly strong in these sectors.

Yeah, but they're after anyone. Now, also to let your viewers know, I was a DMLA when I was a high schooler in High Point, North Carolina, High Point Central High School. And was one for about two and a half, three years. And I remember then being in the lodge, our DMLA meetings. For those who don't know, the DMLA is the youth organization for young men. The Masonic youth organization for young men. So I was in the DMLA for about three years, and we visited the state lodge down in Raleigh.

We actually put on a play about the tragic death of Jacques DMLA and these things. So I had some knowledge then of the inner workings of the lodge and remembered certain aspects of it. Well, and one of the things that I've seen is that a lot of people who are Masons, it's almost like you can't say Jesus is the only way. And I'm not saying that they can or whatever, but even the inside of the lodge is checkered black and white.

Do you know the meaning behind that? Well, honestly, if you ask ten Masons, you'll get five answers on that. And this is one of the problems in studying and accurately describing the Masonic craft is that each, in America, and of course it's a worldwide organization, but in America alone, each state controls really what they do, what they teach, how they conduct their meetings, etc.

There are certain core values, doctrines, and philosophies they hold to, but there's a great amount of variance. For instance, some even have a blue floor, which is symbolic of the name of the local lodge, which is used throughout America, and not in every nation, but in America it's called the Blue Lodge. Why do they call it the Blue Lodge? Because according to Albert Mackey, again he's one of their sources, the blue, the color blue, when it's used in connection with the ancient Hebrews, and it goes to the Hebrew word, he used the Hebrew word itself, when it is used in connection with their spirituality, it means perfection. So the Blue Lodge means the perfection.

Now when you study their teachings, you understand what that means. They claim to perfect the spiritual and moral character of the Masons in the lodges. These men come in in their terms, and to use their metaphor, as a rough ashlar stone.

It is a stone that's taken from, say for instance, Mount Airy up here, that's quarried, and it's rough on several sides. And then through the submission to Masonic teaching, now not New Testament Christian teaching, which leads to New Testament sanctification, but by keeping the Masonic teaching, the rough edges are filed and worn and sanded and ground off of their nature, and they emerge a perfect man, a mature man. So they are claiming to lead their men to a spiritual and moral perfection. Well Michael, this is really the work of the Holy Spirit through the Scriptures in the church, and through the work of the ministry, which is to perfect the saints. Now perfect for your listeners, if you don't know that term in the New Testament terminology, it doesn't mean sinlessly perfect. It means spiritually consistent in faith and obedience.

Spiritually consistent, or fully developed, fully grown, fully mature, and to put it in one word, Christ-like. So they're claiming to be able to do the work of the church, which God had to send his Son, the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit, and the nature of Christ to do. And they make it sound so good.

Oh, it sounds very good. Yeah, and of course, if they can do it, Michael, by themselves, why did Jesus come? It makes a complete mockery of redemption. So it in effect is another form of universalism that, and there are other aspects we could get into here, but that of all gods essentially being the same, all religions leading to the same God and the same salvation. One of their sources, Joseph Ford Newton, I referred to him earlier, he was a prime 20th century Masonic writer, said that we will never have, we will never have a religion of brotherhood until we have a brotherhood of religions.

Now you have to think about that a little bit. We will never have a religion of brotherhood. Well, I'm sorry, I thought Christianity was a religion of brotherhood.

Right, right. But he says we'll never have one until we have a brotherhood of religions. Well, you know, Greg, you also wrote another book about the second coming, and before Christ returns, or around that time or whenever it is, we could argue about that, but that there will be an anti- I won't argue with you.

There will be an anti-Christ who comes. Right. And there may be something where they say, hey, you can all follow somebody, and there's going to be somebody who's going to supposedly bring some peace, and so I can almost see Freemasonry kind of moving together with us. Yeah, well actually all of these forms, all of these streams of false religion flow from one source. Yeah.

They flow from Satan. That's right. And so, and all of them flow to one source, and that source is to unite humanity without Jesus.

Right. And you can be as religious as you want. That's fine, but just without Jesus. You've got to leave Jesus out of the equation. And so that's what's really behind this, the religion of Freemasonry.

That's what's behind it. And to your point now, in the end times, Revelation 17 describes a great harlot riding the beast. That is the religious system that will then be in complete control of the religious systems of the world, and will ride or use the beast system in that time. And so anyway, that's a reference to what we call the harlot church, and harlot being a symbol, a metaphor for unfaithfulness.

Yeah. And so just as ancient Israel was unfaithful to Yahweh, so the Christian church has become unfaithful to Christ in that day, particularly in its fullest sense. And now exactly what that will look like, we do not know.

It is likely that that will be an amalgamation, a federation of all religions with the papacy at the head. That's very likely. Now, would I say that definitively? No, I can't because the Bible doesn't definitively reveal that. And I think you and I talked before in discussing prophecy. I am careful not to go beyond what the scripture says if I want to speak with authority. I can conjecture and say maybe possibly the chances are.

Right. But if it's written, I'll say it's written and this is the way it's going to happen. Now, this is what I've heard. I've heard anybody who wants to get up to a certain degree in Freemasonry, I've heard that some of them, they have to become a Catholic priest first. Have you ever heard that or read that? I've never heard that and I would think that that probably is very inaccurate information. The reason I say that is because the Catholic church was the first church to come out and to categorically denounce Freemasonry. And they said that, in fact, today, if you're a Catholic and you tell your priest that you're a Freemason, they're not to give you the elements, they're not to give you the eucharist.

And so it is considered a mortal sin. Yeah. So it's good to kind of get this information out. And I'm so glad you brought this up, Michael, because there is just a plethora. Just there's an avalanche of all kinds of and it's like it's the same with any controversial issue. We just love these little tidbits, you know, and we feed them to each other and we don't always source them. But in this case, there are a lot of things that are esoteric about the Masons.

And I want to blast everything that's unbiblical and false and particularly if it's damning. But there are many things like this that have been added to it. Yeah. And when we get back, we're going to be talking about one of the most famous or infamous Freemasons.

And I think they try to hide this, guys. So we'll be back with the last segment right after these messages. Stay with us. All right. This is Michael Zwick. We are back for the final segment and we're going to go all in on this one, buddy.

We've got Greg Hennet. He wrote the book Freemasonry and Expose. It's a short book, man. I read it in less than a day.

I mean, it was it was amazing. But one of the most famous or infamous Freemasons that we know of today was a guy by the name of Albert Pike. What can you tell us about Albert? Well, he was a Confederate officer. He was also associated after the war with the KKK.

Some people denied that, but I think the records show that he was clearly very clearly. He was an interesting figure, though. He was a polymath. He was a master of many subjects. He was a brilliant guy.

He was extremely prolific. And I would add to that, so many of these original Masonic authors, Albert Mackey and and Pike. Excuse me. Yeah.

And let's see who else. Joseph Ford Newton. These guys were very verbose and they could say with a thousand words what a normal person could say with ten. They had the gift of that. But but back to Pike, he was a very interesting figure. And but he was one that really sort of set into into prose their their core philosophies.

Yeah. And he was very extremely well read. Like I said, he was a polymath. And so I wouldn't doubt his scholarship. I gotcha. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt his scholarship. But at the same time, his he was not a believer in the divinity of Christ.

That was very clearly because you couldn't be a teacher. If you believed in the divinity of Christ, you would have to go with his core doctrines. And one of which were I could say the prime one of which would be I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.

And again, I am the light of the world. And and and and and so Mackey could not have believed that and and have written the things that he did. But nor could Pike. So but Pike was honored to this day. His remains are buried in the House of the Temple, which is a Scottish Rite Masonic Temple in Washington. Very prominent Masonic landmark. And his bust is there as well. You know, they have his bust and then his remains were buried there to connect of Congress, I believe, in the 1940s or 50s.

And they disinterred him and then interred him there in the House of the Temple. So he's a very prominent figure there. Some Masons don't swear by him. Others do. Yeah. And so there are people who are listening today. We're on all over the country.

So there are people who are listening today who say, well, gosh, I'm a Mason and I've been a Mason for all these years. I didn't really know how dark it was. And by the way, we can't tell you how dark it is in one hour. Right. We're just doing the best we can. Pick up the book. Just the highlights. Yeah.

Just pick up the book and it'll tell you more and then do some more research after that. But they're saying, OK, I'm realizing that this is not good. I can't really be a Christian and also really follow Freemasonry as well. What would be the first step?

What would you take? Well, again, if we're speaking to a Christian who has been enmeshed in this organization and now realizes that it is teaching serious heresy, then the first thing is to get out. It's very simple. And in the book, I give about six different points, just very simple instructions. And the first would be to follow the Apostle Paul's command in Ephesians, which you mentioned earlier, where he said, have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. So the first thing is to leave the lodge. And the second thing is to explain to your former fraternity, fraternal brothers, why you're doing what you're doing, because you are a Christian.

And explain to them, and we bring this up in the book, the clear points of differentiation between Christ doctrine and the teaching of the craft and of the lodge. And tell them what you're doing. Tell them why you're doing it. And warn them.

But do not go back to the Masonic Lodge for anything. Stay completely separate from it and apart from it, because we're told in 2 Corinthians 6, again, it's a prime chapter there, where we're told to not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. And so you should do this, first of all. Then share with other Christians what you've done as well.

And then I would say go a step further. Share it with your church. Testify to your church what's happened, how you've seen the light about this particular area of heresy. And because you don't know who in your church may also be being appealed to by the Masonic Lodge, or one of its various associations. And pass this on to your pastor. Every pastor in America needs this book. And I'm not saying that because it's my book. Every pastor in America needs this book, because we have gone a long generation now since the peak of the Masonic organization in America, and the amount of current knowledge on the Masonic Lodge is very low.

It's very low. I remember the first book that I read about it was in the 1990s, Fast Facts on False Teachings by Dr. Ron Carlson and Ed Decker. It's still an excellent work. They go into many different false religions and heresies, not just the Masonic Lodge.

That's just one of the areas. But there's not been a lot of books lately that have been written, I'd say probably since the 1990s, any significant works on the Masonic Lodge. So there's a whole new generation. They know nothing about it. Their pastor's gone through seminary.

They didn't learn anything about it at seminary. And so this needs to be taught first to pastors so they can pass it on to their people. I'd say every pastor's conference in America needs to have this book on their floor. Yeah, I picked it up. I read it and I've been telling people about it.

And Greg Henan has spelled H-I-N-N-A-N-T, but it's Freemasonry and Expose. But one of the things that I was thinking about is that, okay, so let's say you leave. Let's say you start to tell people, hey, this is no good. Could you expect some kickback? Yeah, they're going to dump you in the Niagara River.

No, they won't try any tricks like that. We don't want to falsely accuse our dear Masonic friends of something like that. But you would no doubt be snubbed. Now, remember, what draws you into the Masons would be something that you experience as you go out of the Masons.

You come into the Masons to improve your stature in the community, to win more business from other influential Masons, etc., etc. So, hey, you may lose some contracts, but if you do that for the sake of Christ, Christ will more than make it up to you. Absolutely. Yeah, the Lord is faithful.

God provides all our needs. So no Christian needs fear leaving the lodge. What he needs to fear is staying in the lodge and displeasing Christ and then bringing a dark satanic covering over his household.

That's something to be fearful of. But to take action and leave the lodge, not because you hate the Masons, because we do not hate the Masons, we're not advocating that, but because you see the light about what they teach, what they believe. It is false. It is antithetical to everything in the Bible. It makes a mockery of Jesus' salvation.

It is universalism. It is heading toward the Antichrist and away from Christ. So because you see that and you disaffiliate, you are pleasing God and God will bless you because you leave.

And if you lose two contracts, you'll win four new ones. God will more than provide. So there's nothing to fear. Again, the thing to fear is to stay under that dark satanic covering. I bring out in the book that when we knowingly, okay, once we've been enlightened and we stay under the influence of false doctrine, and particularly the kind that has to do with salvation, we have a gap in our spiritual armor. If you remember, in the Old Testament, Ahab was shot with a gap to the armor, but so was righteous King Josiah.

He was shot in a gap in his armor at the Battle of Karmakimesh. And so you can't afford to have a gap in your armor. Paul said give no place to the devil. He said also don't give the enemy an advantage. And we do that when we knowingly stay under the organization which is under satanic doctrine.

And that's what this is. It's satanic doctrine. All the good works that they have, and they're wonderful, and I assert that in the book, that does not in any way counterbalance this doctrine which is taking people to hell in the name of leading them to heaven. Yeah, and I've heard before, I think it was Stephen Covey's book, The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, where he said the enemy of the best is not the terrible or the bad, it's the good or the pretty good. Absolutely, and that's, of course, probably the better known statement is the good is ever the enemy of the best. So the next question would be why, and it's simply because it keeps you from the best. You fall short of the best.

You come short of it. And so when it comes to spiritual truth, none of us, and I pray none of your listeners right now, want to stand before Christ and know that you came short of eternal truth. No, you want to grasp the truth. You want to know the whole counsel of God.

And then you want to be able to live it and share it with others. Yeah, that's right, and so people may be asking what is the truth? Jesus Christ, he said in John 14, 6, he said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody comes to the Father but by me. Freemasonry says we take good men and make them better. Romans 3, 23 says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 6, 23 says that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ. He's putting me through a Bible drill here. Yeah, well, and I'm bringing this up because there's even one of my favorite passages in the Bible, and I believe it's Luke 18 and verse 10 where it says that there were two men who went up to the church one Sunday, and one of the guys said, Lord, I thank you that I'm not like this other guy, Jeff Hoover, over here. He says, I give 10% of my money to the poor. I don't commit adultery. He keeps beating his chest. I'm a pretty darn good person.

The second guy couldn't even lift up his head. He beat on his chest and he said, God, have mercy on me, a sinner. And Jesus said, anybody who exalts themselves shall be humbled, but anybody who humbles themselves shall be exalted. And so Freemasonry is trying to exalt men saying, hey, we can be good enough to get to heaven, but Jesus said, if you humble yourselves, you will be exalted. Greg, I want to thank you for coming on today.

If you have not picked up the book, please pick up this book, and it's called Freemasonry, an exposé by Greg Hinnant. And Greg, I want to thank you again. Quite welcome. Glad to be here. God bless you. God bless you.

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