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And it's my first time back since the Christmas holidays and New Year's. And what a start we have to this new year. We've had a couple of terrorist attacks. We've had a fight for the Speaker of the House. And we've had shootings and everything else. And it's only day three. So we've got an interesting year ahead of us.
It's been a rough start out of the gate. We were hoping to put some of the vitriol and other things of 2024 and years past in the rearview mirror. But it looks like it's with us because part of that is that it's just the human condition and the way this society is now. You ever heard that quote, wherever two or three are gathered there will be problems? Well, we're modeling that as a nation, I think.
But that's the bad news. The good news is we serve a sovereign Savior who is not caught by surprise on any of these things. And I think we're going to see some things this year that are going to be rather astounding. And I hope as the Christian community we will be ready with our eyes wide open, our ears listening intently to say, okay, let's see where God is moving and let's join him there. And I'm thrilled to be here with you all today.
If you want to call in the program, it's 866-34-TRUTH, 866-34-TRUTH, or 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. I want to start off this year because you remember during COVID when they all said during these uncertain times? And I laughed about that because I thought, when have they ever been certain? When have we ever had certain times? And we don't have certain times.
We have a certain Savior. But we don't have certain times. And one of the things I love about the word time in Scripture, you have two different versions of the word time from the Greek. One of them is chronos where we get the term chronological. In other words, the clock is moving kind of thing. And that started, you know, the moment God stepped into time and said, let there be light. And the other one is kairos, which means appointed time, at that time. So you'll see those kinds of things throughout Scripture. It says, at that time Jesus did this, at that time this happened, at that time. And the comforting thing to me is, that I draw from that, is that God knows what he's doing.
He's got this. If he's Lord at all, he is Lord of all. Now the question is, do we believe that? And then the second question is, if we do believe it, what are the implications? And how will we function in this world that seems to be spinning out of control on a daily basis?
And what are your thoughts on that? I know that in my own life, I mean we're facing some pretty rough things this month. My wife is going back into the hospital for two months on two different surgeries.
This is number 87 and number 88. So talk about during these uncertain times. I get that.
And I'm going to talk a little bit more of that later on some things she's been writing about that I think you might find meaningful. But we know this is going to be painful. And here we go. So, how do we approach that? How would you approach that as a Christian? What would your prayer be? How do you even pray when you're going in for surgery number 87? What do you pray? And sometimes, do you find yourself sometimes not knowing what to pray?
I heard a great quote not too terribly long ago. And it was talking about not knowing how to pray, not knowing what to say. And they said, if you merely sigh when going to God in prayer, that in itself is sufficient. That is a sufficient prayer just to sigh before God. And I thought that was a great quote because sometimes we don't know what to say. We don't have the words. And, you know, I've wrestled with that over the years.
I mean, you know, you go to the sovereign Lord of the universe. And what are we asking for? Am I asking for my wife's legs to grow back? Am I asking her for total body healing? What am I asking for?
And what does that look like? These are things that I struggle with and wrestle with. Maybe you are too.
Maybe you've come to that point. But I want to leave you in this block with a couple of quotes. I like to go research quotes.
I like to hear what other people have said about certain things. And Benjamin Franklin said, out of adversity comes opportunity. Out of adversity comes opportunity. Do you resonate with that?
Does that resonate with you? And I think as we face this year, we're already three days into the new year, we've already got significant adversity. And do we look at that as an opportunity?
Do we see the opportunity in that? Martin Luther said, they gave our master a crown of thorns. Why do we hope for a crown of roses? You ever get the feeling sometimes we hope for a crown of roses? We want to have all this laud and everything going right and our healthiness and wealthiness and all that kind of stuff. But they gave our master a crown of thorns.
Why do we hope for a crown of roses? And so when we look at things that are coming our way that may be very difficult and look at that as a curse from God or this is God's displeasure or whatever, maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. Maybe out of adversity comes opportunity.
Maybe God is using these things for His glory in ways that we just can't expect and can't even really imagine. C.S. Lewis said that suffering is God's megaphone and it gets our attention. And I'll leave you with this quote here before we go to the break because I love this one. In the face of adversity, hope often comes in the form of a friend who reaches out to us. In the face of adversity, hope often comes in the form of a friend who reaches out to us.
You know who said that? Christopher Reeve, the man who played Superman, who was paralyzed as a quadriplegic. Everything about his life was just completely upended. And he went from being a major movie star to clinging to a friend who reached out to him in his distress.
Maybe that's the way we start off the year is be willing to be friends who reach out to others in distress. 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. This is Peter Rosenberger. This is Truth Talk Live.
We'll be right back. Truth Talk Live! You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com Welcome back to Truth Talk Live! I am Peter Rosenberger and I'm glad that you are with us today. 866-34-TRUTH, if you want to weigh in on some of the things we're hitting at the beginning of the year here or if you've got something else on your mind.
866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. Are you ready for the new year? Do you feel excited about it? Are you apprehensive? Are you wondering what's going to happen here? We've got all manner of things going on. We are going to bury a former president.
There's a judge now that is saying that they're going to try to sentence Trump on January 10th. You've got Liz Cheney winning the Presidential Medal of Freedom and getting a standing ovation. Every day it's just like a blur of information and be curious to see what your thoughts are on that as we move forward and what we can do as Christians. Are we salt and light in this situation?
Are we able to speak with calmness and with clarity in the midst of a very, very fast moving and often tumultuous society that we live in? Anyway, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-34-TRUTH. I wrote a book. My most recent book is called A Minute for Caregivers When Every Day Feels Like Monday. They're just one minute vignettes just like it sounds.
They're just one minute stories. I timed every one of them to make sure that a family caregiver could read this book in one minute. Most caregivers do not have time to read lengthy novels or anything else and so I just did something short and I wrote most of this while I was in the hospital with my wife during one of her stays. We were there for another two month stretch and I had a little area down the hall that I would often go and work and just sit there and the doctors and so forth would, if they made rounds when I wasn't in the room, they would come down and see me down there.
I had my little office down there by the soda machine and a little sitting area and tapped into their Wi-Fi and did my job. I actually recorded one radio show while in the hospital room with her. But I wrote this book because I knew that caregivers, sometimes we can get very disoriented and every Monday I put out one of these chapters on my Substack page. Caregiver.substack.com and you can access that from my website as well, PeterRosenberger.com and I put one out for this week.
They're free posts that I do every Monday and I encourage you to go out and subscribe to it. I think you'd find it meaningful and you might want to share it with somebody you know who's struggling as a caregiver. Remember what I said in the last block about what Christopher Reeve said, that sometimes in the midst of such great adversity, hope often comes in the form of a friend who reaches out to us. Sometimes we don't know what to say to people who are struggling, but just showing up is such a big part of it. Just show up and sit with them. One of my favorite verses in Scripture is Job 2.13 where his friends came and sat quiet with him for seven days because they saw his suffering was great.
And can we sit with people? Not say anything, just be with them, just our presence. And that's a challenge, it's not as easy as you think. But I put words in, if you don't know what to say to a caregiver, don't worry about it, I do.
I've been doing it for four decades, I speak it fluently. But I wrote this one for this year, it's called, Risk is inevitable, risk is a part of life, but joy is a choice. And that's this chapter and I thought you might find it meaningful today. Happy New Year, the phrase Happy New Year can often feel perfunctory and even meaningless in the caregiving world. Most of us know that January 1, 2, 3, etc. usually brings the same challenges as the previous week and years. Last year on New Year's Day we were in the hospital. We spent Christmas, New Year's, my wife's birthday, Valentine's Day, all in the hospital. We're going to do a lot of that this year as well. We're going to have another long stretch.
I don't know what you do with yours, but go ahead and let them part by the wayside. Caregivers can instead determine to live rather than just survive. You see, this is something I've struggled with for a long time. Surviving things can become a trap for us. We've just got to get through this, we've just got to get through this. But can we live in the midst of it? Can we live in the midst of adversity?
Can we live in the midst of an increasingly secular society? I'm not talking about just existing. Not dying is not the goal. Living is the goal.
And can we do that? And everything in scripture tells me, yes, we can. And that's why Christ came for us. Living, however, requires risk. Life is perilous, despite our culture obstinately working to mitigate all risk, and you thank the lawyers for that.
Isolating to avoid disease, injury, rejection, or failure is no way to live. Go back to what I said in the last blog with Martin Luther. They said they gave our Savior a crown of thorns. Are we expecting a crown of roses?
We're going to have tough things. Jesus said this. Look, they hate me.
They're going to hate you. Nor is avoiding death the same as living. Do you know people that it seems like their entire existence is just avoiding death? You ever met somebody like that?
I've seen it many times. They're avoiding death, but they're not living. From gardening to music, anything that involves life, art, and creativity comes with the risk of failure, as do relationships, business ventures, and caregiving.
This year, I don't really set New Year's resolutions, but I do intend to push myself to try to learn, accomplish, and even fail new things. History teaches that risk and heartache remain unavoidable, but joy is a choice. Did you ever see that movie Lonesome Dove? I read the book and the movie.
Both of them are very good. One of my favorites. Robert Duvall plays this aging Texas Ranger named Augustus McCray, and Tommy Lee Jones plays Captain Woodrow F. Carl. They're lifetime friends, Rangers. They're going to go on one last cattle drive to Montana. Since I live in Montana, that always has a special place in my heart. They're along the way, but they have these dialogues along the way that are just brilliant.
And in one of them, Augustus McCray looks at Captain Carl, and he says, It ain't dyin' I'm talkin' about. It's livin'. I doubt it matters where you die, but it matters where you live. And I think for us as we go into 2025, it does. It matters where we live.
And that when we live and as we live, as we go about this, look around. I mean, you can go to any media outlet and you'll just see insanity happening all around us. On the subways in New York.
I mean, at Las Vegas, you had this thing in New Orleans. It's everywhere. The world is a messed up place. But we are called to be salt and light in this. We're called to live. And what a great way to start off the year to say, As Christians, you know what? We're going to live in this. We're going to do this to the glory of God.
That's what I hope is for myself this year. And I pray that that resonates with you. You can see more of that at PeterRosenberger.com. Just click on my Substack page right there. There's a little link.
PeterRosenberger.com. We've got more to go. And we'll be right back. This is Truth Talk Live. 866-34-TRUTH.
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866-34-TRUTH. Do you like snow? Because most of the country is about ready to have a little bit of snow coming in. We live here in the Rockies in Montana, so we've had plenty of it already and more coming. In fact, it was snowing this morning. And my son just left yesterday to go back east. He's trying to get ahead of it.
He's driving across the country and he's trying to get ahead of it. And I took him out. We went out on a snowmobile ride. We lived back up to the forest and we just went out in the forest and did a little riding around. And then I have an old snowmobile. I mean, it's an old one, like 98, but it works great.
I bought it from an old man that he's passed away now. He died at the ripe old age of 96, but he used to groom the trails behind us here. And he built this little contraption to pull behind the sled. And he would go up there and groom all these trails. In fact, Gracie, my wife, put the first 100 miles on that machine because he took her out and taught her how to ride snowmobiles. He's the only one I would trust to teach her this.
He was in his 80s at the time, or close to it, and just an unbelievable rider. And here she is out there with two prosthetic legs riding a snowmobile. She used to wear boots when she did it, but then she stopped doing that because they wouldn't stay on the tracks where your feet go. And so she just put on tennis shoes. I mean, it's not like your feet get cold. And so we met some people on the trail one time and they saw her with her tennis shoes.
They didn't know she had two prosthetic legs. And they looked at us. We lived in Nashville for many, many years, 35 years, but we were coming out here all that time. And they said, well, where are you guys from? And I looked at her feet, covered with snow. It's like 10 degrees outside, 2, 3, 4 feet of snow back there. And I said, well, we're from Tennessee. And I never said anything different.
I mean, to this day, I guess they think we only wear one pair of shoes out here. But she loves to go out there and ride. She hasn't ridden in a while because of the challenges she's dealing with. But she loves snow. She absolutely loves it. And she's got an article.
She's been writing on pain for a series of articles on my blog post. And this one's about snow and what she loves about it. And she grew up in northwest Florida down in Fort Walton Beach. And she hated Christmastime down there because everybody was in shorts. She said, this is just wrong.
This is just a crime against nature. Christmas should have snow. And she wanted to live someplace with snow. And eventually we moved out here and live now in Montana. And we have plenty of snow. We had snow in Tennessee, but not like we have in Montana.
And my sister says that we live in Narnia before Aslan's return. And one time she and I went back in the forest and it was so still that we could hear the snow falling. That's how still it was.
It was so quiet. And Gracie's a no kidding singer. I mean, she's the real deal. And she has sung for presidents and name it. And she's got this amazing voice. And she lifted that voice up.
We just turned the sleds off. And we were in kind of a bowl area where they were surrounded by some peaks. And she just, at the top of her voice, saying, how great thou art. And it just reverberated all over. And the hymn, and the mountains in reply, echoing their joyous refrain, glory. The mountains in reply, echoing their joyous refrain, reply. And that's what it sounded like.
It was just reverberating how great thou art. And she loves the snow. She talks about it in this blog. What it means to her to be in pain with so many scars on her body.
When you have 80 plus surgeries, you get a lot of scars. And she knows that a lot of people like snow as much as she does. But I want you to go out and take a look at that and see what she says. Because, and I'll give you the punchline, because it's worth repeating over and over and over. Every snowfall reminds me of God's grace. Snow hides. It hides all the ugliness that we see around us.
It'll cover up everything. She said, snow hides, but grace heals. Snow fades, but grace lasts. God's grace doesn't just cover my scars.
It transforms them into something new. And I just love this. So I hope you'll go out and take a look at it. PeterRosenberger.com. And it's under the blog post under Peter recommends.
You'll see at the top and just go to the blog. Let's go to the phones here. Mike in Dayton, Ohio. And I'd love to hear from you, Mike. Happy New Year. How are you feeling?
Happy New Year. I'm feeling good. You've got to say it, Mike.
You've got to say it like James Brown. You've got to say it like, I feel good. I feel good, yeah. That's close, Mike. That's close. I feel good, yeah.
Well, tell me what's on your mind and heart. Yeah, it snowed about an inch here. And I guess somebody told me when I was at Speedway, which says it's going to snow about eight inches tonight.
Well, I don't know if I believe that or not. I haven't looked at the forecast, but we'll see what happens. But, yeah, snow's covering up all the leaves and all the nastiness.
And I'm sitting in my car right now looking at the snow that it was about an inch. And I totally agree with what you're saying there. That is an awesome perspective. The reason I call this maybe, hopefully I'm not too winded, but I was in the Marine Corps and I was up against a – in the Marine Corps in the boot camp, and I was up against this guy who was 260 pounds, muscles all around his body, and we were doing fighting with stick pads on both sides of it. And you liked the Mike Tyson fight, so I thought maybe I'd share this. It didn't go the way I thought it would, but I did like the fight. Well, it was okay.
The undercard was better, don't you think? Oh, I agree. That was really good. And I can't believe my wife said, let's watch this.
But anyway, that's another story. But I'm going against this guy, and the drill instructor grabbed me and said, you're going to go up this 260-pound guy, and he's got a – I mean, he's knocked everybody into the water all along. And I said – and I literally said, dear Lord, please help me here, right?
Help me, Lord. And the Lord said, surrender. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, surrender?
That means he's going to knock my head off, and I'm going to fall in the water. And all of a sudden, I get on this thing, and I got this helmet on, and I got the pupil stick in front of me, just 260-pound guys in front of me, and I just put my hands down, and I said, okay, I'm going to surrender. And the guy started to swing like he was going to chop my head off. And I put my hands down like I was surrendering, and I ducked, and he dismissed me with everything he had, and he was off balance. And I tomahawked over the top of him like this, and I hit him right over the top of the head, and I hit him and knocked him into the water, and all the drill instructors cheered and everything.
So God gave me that word, surrender, which was amazing. And I did, and I was able to defeat the person in front of me. Well, are you still there, sir, I hope? Oh, I'm, yeah.
Oh, okay. And I think I almost felt like that was a David and Goliath moment. And God gave me that word, surrender, and I did, and I faked that guy out by putting my hands down, and I ducked, and I knocked him into the water. And that gives me hope in my life that if I surrender my life to God, he's going to direct me in my path. Now, what's a scripture that immediately comes to your mind when you say that?
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not only on your own understanding, but all your ways, acknowledge him, and he'll make your past straight. And I've been living my whole life with that scripture. And this world is not easy. You look at the horror that is happening all around you, and it's easy to get worried about what's going on around you. But it's easier to surrender to God, and let him direct your path. And the more you study the God's word, the more you pray, the more it is, the easier the surrender. Let God direct your life. I can't imagine being a caregiver like you are, sir.
It's amazing. And the challenges that you run through your life, my life is a whole lot easier than yours. And the stories that you've told, it's, you know, here I am. I will correct you on one thing, Mike.
I will correct you on one thing. Gracie and I have a commitment, both of us do, to when other people talk about their issues and they compare it to ours. We say, look, don't compare it to ours. Because your pain is your pain, and it's important, and it's important to God, and we don't want you to minimize that. Just know that if we found God to be faithful, I hope that inspires you the courage to find that God will be faithful in your stuff as well. Because I never want anybody to minimize their pain.
It's important, and to take it before the Lord. And you've been through your own journey, and you've faced a big guy on a log, and you've... We'll be right back. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberg. We're glad to have you with us.
866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. Mike, I had Mike on the line as we went to the break. Sorry I went a little bit long there, and Nick was throwing things at me, and all upset with me, and it caused an international incident.
But we're back here. Mike, I want to just reaffirm that, because I want to hear what people are going through, and what they're learning about themselves and God, more importantly, through that journey. And the tendency, when you have somebody like Gracie's story that is so over the top of what she has to deal with, that oftentimes people will minimize their own pain.
Gracie would be the first to tell you, please don't do that. She would say, your pain is very important, and let's talk about how God addresses our individual hurts, and knows us individually, and has calls for us to go through whatever we're going to go through, and meets us there. So anyway, that was the point, Mike, so I appreciate your thoughts on that, and I appreciate what you brought to the table of sharing how God has worked in your life through so many different things, and the insights that you glean from that, yeah, if you do surrender. And at first I didn't know where you were going to go with that story, Mike. I thought you were kind of going to Obi-Wan Kenobi against Darth Vader kind of moment.
And you were going to tell that big 260-pound Marine, if you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can imagine. I didn't know if you were going to go that direction or not, Mike, but it's a wonderful lesson, and it's a wonderful moment, and it's one that obviously sticks with you for life. So thank you for your indulgence on that and Semper Fi.
Yeah, thank you for taking my call. And I'm not minimizing, I just want to also just say that God is willing, I'm lost for words. Trust in the Lord and all your heart and soul not on your own understanding. And in all your ways acknowledge Him, He'll make your past straight. That's the word of God.
It is. And I try to live that every day, you know what I mean? And it's not easy. We have struggles everywhere, and people need to trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. It's a wonderful verse, and I've tried to live that through my life, and every time I have a little bit of disappointment in life, I run to that verse. And God has always got me through every circumstance in my life. And it's wonderful that we have a loving God that cares about us in every situation that we're in. You know, if it was easy, we wouldn't need a Savior, would we?
No, no, not at all, sir. I remember one of our sons asked me one time when he was nine years old, he said, Dad, why should I believe that God cares about my hurts when I see what He allows Mom to go through? How'd you like to answer that one, Mike? Oh, yeah. And I looked at him, and in a moment of uncharacteristic wisdom, because believe me, it's not characteristic for me to have wisdom, Mike, I looked at our son, big brown eyes were filled with tears, and I said, Son, I don't know why your mother has to suffer like she does. But here's what I do know. He stretched out His arms and gave His life for us on the cross, and if He loves us that much, to understand, the more we understand what He did on the cross, and I said, if He loves us that much, I'm willing to trust Him with all these other things.
How about you? And that was sufficient for him at the time, and it still is. And I've come to a place, Mike, and see what this resonates with you, I have come to a place that sin is a bigger problem than we think it is, and the cross is a bigger deal than we could ever imagine. And the reason we can trust in the Lord with all our hearts is because we more understand our need of a Savior, our sin, and therefore can more marvel at this amazing event that happened at the cross. The hymn writer said, beneath the cross of Jesus, and from my smitten heart with tears, two wonders I confess, the wonders of redeeming love and my unworthiness. That's one of my favorite hymns. And I think this is the verse that leads us to that passage in Proverbs that you quoted, that said, trust in the Lord with all your heart, because we see how desperate our sin is, how desperate our need is, and how great a Savior we have.
And so you have reminded me of that again, Mike, and I thank you for that. What do you look for too much? I'll let you go in here in just a second.
I've got one last question for you. What do you look for most in this upcoming year, specifically for you? Specifically for me, so pray for me is, of course, I've been praying for my daughter and my son, and I really want them to get closer to God. And I know everybody out there wants their kids to get closer to God. And they're 32 and 35 or whatever, and I want their families to be hard with God. And sure enough, I was praying at the time for them, and my daughter calls me up and says I'm having problems with her husband.
And of course, the devil attacks right away when you're praying for your kids and everything else. But I, again, trust in the Lord, and I know my God is going to come through. So I continually pray for them and continually want the best for them. I want them to get to heaven.
I want them to be children of God. And it's a hard situation, so that's my thing for this year. What do you feel like your role in that will be as you watch this thing unfold?
What is your role in this, do you feel? To be an example, you know, to be the good example, be true to God. That's why I committed this year to be the best example I can be in front of my kids. I am really going to get deep with God this year for my children to be saved and to be sorry to get there.
You know me? To get back to God. I raised them, and they're going to get back to God, so I'm going to get the best I can be this year. Sorry?
No, don't be sorry. That's a powerful goal and a powerful desire of your heart, and I think it's one that you can certainly bring to God and lean not on your own understanding, because let Him bring them to Him, because no one comes to Him unless He draws them. Exactly, yes. And so you can trust that He'll draw them, and you've put the Word of God into them. You raised them, you put the Word of God into them, and it never returns void. And so I would – not necessarily advice, but one of the things I've learned over the years is just to hold up God's Word to him and say, Lord, this is what you said.
Would you honor your Word? You know, Abraham in Genesis 15, one of the most powerful verses in Scripture, is when he said he believed God and it was accounted to him as righteousness. In other words, he took God at His Word. And I think that we can all agree with you on this, as you take God at His Word, you have put the Word of God into your children and just take God at His Word, that it never returns void.
How's that? Was that a pretty good resolution this year, to take God at His Word? Yeah, and again, I'm going to trust. You know, I'm going to trust. That's my word for this year, is trust. And why do we trust? Why do we trust Him? Because He died for us.
Because He stretched out His arms and gave His life for us. Yeah. It always, always, always comes back to the cross, doesn't it?
Yes, it does, every time. Mike. Thank you. Thank you for the call. Thank you for the time. This is a good way to start off the year, isn't it, Mike? Yes, it is. Thank you. Look, you go get your bread and your milk and your toilet paper for the big snow that's coming to Dayton.
Yeah, I will, please. I don't know why everybody wants to go make French toast and go to the bathroom a lot during snow, but evidently that's the groceries of choice. You guys be safe there, okay, because you've got a winter blast coming.
We're prepared for it in Montana, but I don't know about the rest of the country. Amen. All right, thank you, sir. All right, thank you so much for the call there.
You're welcome, sir. Listen, that's a great word to be able to start off the year with that way of just trust. Do we take him at his word or not? Because things are going on all around us. We all have family members that are in not the places we'd love to see them.
Maybe we're in the places we don't like to see ourselves, but we can take him at his word, and I've watched amazing things happen. I want to also ask you, if you go out to my website at PeterRosenberger.com, see that blog from Gracie about the scars of snow and just what she's been saying about pain, and if you want to find more about her, you can always go to our prosthetic limb ministry website, which she found at standingwithhope.com. We recycle prosthetic limbs. They come from all over the country to a prison in Arizona that's run by CoreCivic out of Nashville. It's a great group, and this is one of their faith-based programs. Inmates help us disassemble them so we can reuse the parts and recycle those parts.
We buy new materials and send it over to West Africa, where we've been working for over 20 years now. It's an extraordinary ministry. Gracie, when she lost her legs, she said, I want to put legs on my fellow amputees and tell them about Jesus, and that's what we do. They go walking and leaping and praising God, and you can be a part of that at standingwithhope.com.
You can find more about Gracie there and what she's done, what she's accomplished. I am so grateful to spend this time with you. Thank you so much for having me. Listen, it's going to be a great year because we serve a great Savior. PeterRosenberger.com, PeterRosenberger.com. This is Truth Talk Live, and we shall see you next time.
