Value-Driven Ballot Decisions

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I want to start off with a quote today. By the way, for those of you who don't know me, I have a program on this network I've had for some time for family caregivers. People who take care of those with chronic impairments, whether it's aging parents, special needs children, spouse. In my case, a spouse who was hurt 40 years ago. I've been her caregiver for four decades through a medical nightmare of 80 plus surgeries.

I've amputated 100 different doctors plus 13 different hospitals. It's ongoing, and I understand the journey in ways that few do. And my whole work that I do is to strengthen the family caregiver. Periodically, I'll swerve into some other things, particularly when Stu asked me to come and sit in on this program and talk to you about some life issues and current issues that are going on.

And by the way, if you want to see more about what we do, just go to HopeForTheCaregiver.com. I want to start off with a quote that I saw from Franklin Graham the other day. A vote is not a Valentine. You aren't professing your love for the candidate.

It's a chess move for the world you want to live in. And today, I would very much like to talk about value-driven ballot decisions. We're going into election season. It's going to be vitriolic. It's going to be weird. It's going to be nuts.

It's going to get nuttier. And how do we as believers, effectively, speak salt and light to this culture that is just seemingly coming unglued? And I want to start off with a couple of scriptures that reflect that. 1 Timothy 2, 1 through 2. Paul was saying to Timothy, first of all, then I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people.

For kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. And I know the tendency for us, we want to get into the brawl and roll up our sleeves and really just go after it, because we're seeing such damage being inflicted on our country by people who are not in the right place. By morality or righteousness. They're not.

I mean, let's be frank. If you're willing to tear down statues, if you're willing to burn down buildings, if you're willing to hurt other people, if you're willing to proudly go out and push for more abortions, if you're willing to go out and proudly advocate for children to be mutilated in transgender-type surgeries and procedures, you're not going to go after them. I mean, I want you to be reen FSA about that procedure. Then I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. We can't fight them with fire. We can't. We are constrained by the gospel. We cannot do that. But we can do what Paul says right here.

Supplications, prayer, intercession, and thanksgiving. Can we do that? Yes, we can. And scripture is not asking us to do something that is contrary to scripture. That is absolutely what we can do as believers, and we can start that today.

We can also vote and be responsible citizens. We can't change anybody's heart. I cannot convince anybody of the gospel.

Only the Holy Spirit can do that. Here's Titus 3.9, but avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. How many of us get into these foolish controversies? Do you ever go out to X?

You know, it used to be called Twitter, but I still call it Twitter, but do you ever go out there? It's like a cage match for people who don't want to get hit. And everybody's got these opinions, so they're just hurling around, things that they would never say if they were looking at you face to face, okay? That is the vitriol that's going on out there, and we're called to avoid that kind of stuff, to be wise in how we deal with people. Proverbs 29.2, now this is where we're starting to get into the weeds, not into the weeds, into the deeper issues here. For when the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan. Do you see the nation groaning? Are you seeing any of that? Do you feel like the nation is groaning?

Do you feel like our major cities are groaning? Do you feel like we have righteous people involved in leadership, or do we have the wicked ruling? Proverbs 29.12, if a ruler listens to falsehood, all his officials will be wicked. Do you see any of that being displayed in our country, in our cities, in our state houses, in the White House?

Do you see a ruler listening to falsehoods? These are things that we can specifically pray that God will, in his mercy, because we certainly don't deserve it as a nation, we deserve what we're getting and worse, but we can ask for mercy, because it says, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land. Well, as a believer, as a professing believer, guess who my people, that's us, okay? That's not the world petitioning God, that's us. And then Proverbs 14.34, righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. Wouldn't you love this nation to be filled with righteousness that exalts it?

We're a long ways from that. And so I go back to what Franklin Graham said, a vote is not a Valentine. You aren't professing your love for the candidate.

It's a chess move for the world you want to live in. You're not going to get everything you want out of every candidate. Do not expect them to do that. Don't expect your candidates to be theologians, because they're not going to do it. There are very few theologians who've ever run for public office in this country.

But we as Christians can start praying right now, today, with intent with these scriptures. We're going to talk about that more when we come back and your calls. Truth Talk Live, 866-34-TRUTH. This is Peter Rosberger.

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Glad to have you with us, 866-348-7884 is the phone line if you want to be a part of the program today, 866-34-TRUTH. If you would like to weigh in on your thoughts, I'm talking today about value-driven ballot decisions. Early voting starts next month, which I think, by the way, is a crock. We don't really need to do... I hope I'm able to say crock, by the way, Nick, here on the program, but I don't think this early voting nonsense needs to start that far out in advance, and I think going to paper ballots and same-day voting and voter ID and all those things, ensure that we have a much better and accurate election that's fair, that people can be dependent upon.

But that's my opinion, and I really... Well, I can back it up on why, but that's a different subject. But I want to talk about today what is our responsibility as we go to the ballot box. A lot of people are struggling with, okay, what do we do?

How should we feel about these things, yada, yada, yada. I go back to this decision, I mean, this quote from Franklin Graham that I read yesterday, a vote is not a Valentine. You aren't professing your love for the candidate. This candidate may not have everything that you want to have.

In fact, you're not going to get it. The only candidate who's going to provide the level of perfection that we're looking for is not on the ballot. He's the king, and he will establish his kingdom on earth, the government shall be upon his shoulder. This is what it says in Isaiah, okay, the government shall be upon his shoulder.

And anybody else is a very poor substitute. But we do the best we can with what we have, and this is why Paul urges us to pray for these that we can live a peaceful life, because there have been so many bad governments. America is a unique government, it's an anomaly.

And we have been insulated because of two things, we have oceans on both sides, so we've had the privilege of two oceans on both sides to keep us from being invaded up to now. And it's allowed us to have a different kind of country and government that most countries around the world can't even fathom. And if you do any kind of traveling outside of this country, you would see that quickly.

And we have been blessed with freedoms that we have taken for granted here. And we can't do that anymore, particularly those of us as Christians. And the reformers that started this country, they came out of the Reformation. And if you go back and trace the history of the Reformation and how it kind of went through the Netherlands and UK versus the Renaissance, which went through down through France, but the Reformation drastically changed the United Kingdom and Scotland and throughout all of the Netherlands and so forth.

And that's where most of the founding documents in our country you could trace back to a lot of this ideology that came from there. And they understood one powerful thing that came out of the Reformation, the man's heart is exceedingly wicked. You cannot trust, that's why we have all these checks and balances, because you can't trust someone. You should never do that.

Jesus himself didn't trust him's heart to other people, because he knew men's heart. And so we have to be accountable. We have to have checks and balances. And when you have anybody that wants to do away with those checks and balances or skew them in a way that's going to make their life more, you know, appealing for what they want to accomplish, then I would stay away from those folks quickly and squash that, because there's a reason that it's in here. And I'm going to give you a couple more quotes throughout this program of things to remember.

One of them is that Will Rogers, who had the best one, you can't legislate intelligence and common sense into people. It's not going to happen. You can't hang up the Ten Commandments and force people to put it up there. I know that's going to probably get a lot of people angry, but they're not going to do it, because it's the heart. What did Scripture say? I wrote my law on your hearts. And you can hang the Ten Commandments up in every room, every courtroom, everywhere, and it's not going to matter to people, because they don't care. Their hearts are what's made out of stone, and we need a heart of flesh, and that only comes from the Holy Spirit. You must be born again. And so that goes back to the prayer that Paul has in Timothy. I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is our charge from Scripture.

Paul was writing that, superintended by the Holy Spirit, as he wrote that to Timothy. And we've got to understand these things and step up. We can't sit on the sidelines and say, well, I don't like him because he's not supported this 100% like I want him to.

I understand that. But then go back to what Franklin Graham said. I think it's a very wise quote.

It's a chess move. We're not going to win the war today. In fact, we're not going to win the war at all. We're going to be battling this until our king comes back. As Christians, we're part of a monarchy. You understand the difference. But while we're here in this world, we're to be salt and light.

And we can't do that if we're on the sidelines. And so we look at the Scriptures and say, what does the Scripture call for in a lifestyle, in a peaceful kingdom? And we vote with the candidate who closely resembles that, knowing that they're never going to get it right 100% of the time.

They're not. But we can hopefully be a source of light and salt to them because we are modeling this. And then you go back to Proverbs 14, 34. This exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. And we are a nation filled with sins. Filled with it. We are people filled with it. We are sinful people. And the only place we have to go is to the cross.

And as we do that, let us pray that God, in His mercy, because if He gave us what we deserved, then the current status of this country is nothing compared to what we deserve. You tracking with me? I know this is a little bit heavy on a Friday afternoon, but we've got a lot of things going on in this country right now. I'm out here in Montana. Trump's coming tonight to Bozeman. I was going to go. I had tickets to go see it, but I can't because Stu called and last minute said, hey, would you do the program? So Trump will have to muddle on without me.

And um, but I also don't want to particularly stay in line all day. They've been camping out and it was cool last night in Montana. And uh, I've been working on my Trump impression though. I was like, they took my mugshot. It was the Mona Lisa of mugshots.

It was such a beautiful shot. They tried to get my bad side, but I only have one side. It's my great side. So anyway, I'm working on it, but you know, we need to get involved. We need to be involved. Doesn't mean we have to be in lockstep with every issue. It really does it, but we do need to be involved and we certainly need to be praying and we don't need to argue with a lot of these things. There's no point in that. Um, you, you can't, um, you know, Winston Churchill once said, a fanatic is one who won't change his mind and won't change the subject. So you're not going to do yourself any favors by arguing with people who are just locked into something like that. But let's be a source of salt and light.

Let's go with value driven ballot decisions, value driven ballot decisions. Okay. This is Peter Rosenberger, HopeForTheCaregiver.com. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

I am so glad to be with you. This is Peter Rosenberger, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-34-TRUTH. Did you just hear the, um, the spot by Dr. Gary Chapman? I had him on my program when I was doing it from Nashville many years ago and I had Dr. Gary Chapman on. And then I had my friend, singer songwriter, Gary Chapman, call in and let, and I introduced the two of them and, uh, Gary, the singer said to Dr. Chapman, Hey, I've been answering some of your emails.

I thought that was kind of funny. So we're glad to have you with us here. Let's go to the phone. We've got a, um, uh, let's go to Dr. Alan Unruh, Dr. Unruh is calling in from South Dakota.

Uh, Dr. Unruh, welcome to the program. Good to talk to you. Thank you.

Thanks for inviting me. We're talking about values driven ballot decisions today, and you bring a very compelling conversation to this and your work. So tell us a little bit of what you're doing and how people can get involved. Well, we are excited to protect human life in South Dakota where the most pro life state in the country. And but we're fighting a big battle because they collected 30 or 54,000 signatures to allow abortion till birth in South Dakota. And they used infusion and the first trimester there's, it eliminates all health and safety standards that we passed the last 20 years. The second trimester, it's only for physical health, but it'll also eliminates all safety standards and it's abortion until birth and it's very high risk, no protection for women, no parental notification laws.

And the third trimester, they define health as any physical, emotional, psychological a woman's health or familial problems. So basically it's abortion on demand until birth. So we've, we've mobilized a campaign called life defense fund.com. So we have to turn the South state of South Dakota into our classroom to see 85% of the people were not alive when Roe v Wade got passed with an activist courts. So we have to defend human life. We can't throw the image of our creator in the garbage and survive as a country. So our goal, we have to raise about two and a half million dollars to defeat this amendment will be the first state that does it.

They lost in Kansas and Ohio and different states. They've got it all over the country, but we've got the greatest chance for victory. But now's the time for all good people to come to the aid of the countrymen. What is your deadline? Dr. Unruh, what is your deadline on this? In November, November when the election comes.

So that's, you need to have all this in place by November. And if people want to get involved on this, where do they need to go to do this? They need to go to life defense fund.com, life defense fund.com, poll number 605-951-5582. That's 605-951-5582.

But if they go to the website, lifedefensefund.com, they'll get all the information they need and answer every question they have. I'm looking at it right now. I'm looking at it right now. It's a great site. And it sounds like you guys got it.

Everything is right there. It's just at people's fingertips to see the cause and so forth. When you, what are your, what is your sense about this? I mean, are you optimistic that you guys are seeing the people starting to get involved or do we need to hammer it a little bit harder or what? Well, we need to do both. I mean, knowledge is power and we have to get the message out. Because how extreme this is, this is not South Dakota values. We're a rural state.

If we were a city, we'd be the 64th largest city in America. So we know we're fighting a major battle with lies and deception. And so we just need to get the truth out. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, and all life comes from him and all rights come from him. They're unalienable.

They're God-given rights. So we have to win in South Dakota. It'll have a worldwide impact when we do win. So it's critical. And so that's why we appreciate you having us on and sharing our message. It's vote no on G is what it is.

And paying for late-term abortions are protected and parents don't have a right to know if their underage daughter is undergoing abortion and it dangers women in countless ways, canceling all requirements to follow basic hospital health and safety standards. So it's a critical thing for all Christians in the country to be involved and help us, because it's an effect to all people in America, and this is the future of America. Darrell Bock Well, you've got it laid out beautifully here on your website, and as we're talking about it this today, values-driven ballot decision. This is where the values – this is the pinnacle of the values conversation. And if you want to be a part of this with Dr. Alan Unruh and the Life Defense Fund, go to lifedefensefund.com – lifedefensefund.com – look, put your actions in play here. We cannot just sit on the sidelines, folks. The time is now to act, and if we don't act, then we have nobody to blame but ourselves for the decline and the rot that is permeating our society here now. We are to be salt and light, and we have to answer, not to the U.S. government. One day we have to look at our Savior and say, did we exhibit what he asked us to do?

Did we exhibit salt and light? So Dr. Unruh, thank you so much for being a part of the program today. I really appreciate you calling in, okay? Dr. Alan Unruh Well, I thank you so much and look forward to keeping you informed on how things are going. Darrell Bock Please do, please come back and talk about it some more.

lifedefensefund.com. We'll see you. Let's go to Jamal in Winston-Salem. Jamal, good afternoon.

Welcome to the program. How are you feeling? Jamal Unruh Feeling good, Mr. Rosenberger. Thank you for taking my call.

It's good to finally get to talk to you. Darrell Bock Well, first off, it's just Peter. It's just Peter. It's just you and me, Jamal. So tell me what's on your heart and mind.

Jamal Unruh Yeah. Real quick, my father passed away four years ago, and then a sister figure of mine shortly after that. And your program got me through that, so if you guys don't know about this program and you're suffering with loss, please check out this program. It's a great program to listen to. Darrell Bock Jamal, that is very kind of you.

Yes, it is. We have the largest radio program for family caregivers, and we launched this thing. I remember when I started it, Jamal, people said, what are you talking about, nursing homes? I said, no, I'm talking about caregivers who are overwhelmed, outmatched, overpowered. They're struggling, trying to take care of somebody. You understand that firsthand, don't you? Jamal Unruh Yes, sir, I do.

Darrell Bock And I want to ask your opinion on something, Jamal, while I got you here, because I have a theory. I'm still a caregiver. I've been a caregiver for four decades.

I'm still a caregiver, so I don't know this firsthand, but I have maintained that the stress and the impact and the heartache of a family caregiver doesn't stop at a cemetery. Is that a fair statement? Jamal Unruh That is a fair statement.

It goes on, and I also like what you said, hopefully this ties in. You said we're either two people when they're a caregiver, or we're soon to be given care by somebody else. Darrell Bock Yeah, if you love somebody, you'll be one. You live long enough, you're going to need one.

Jamal Unruh There you go, there you go. So if you're not caring for somebody, then you're kind of missing out, because it's always somebody to care for, then on the flip side of that coin, you've got to bring up the next generation so they can be new caregivers to take care of all the rest of us. So hopefully that ties into what you were saying.

Darrell Bock That ties in. It always ties in, because there's always a new crop of caregivers being cultivated every day. There's 65 million of us right now doing this, and not just taking care of aging parents. We've got special needs kids. We've got people that have alcoholism, addiction, and so forth, mental illness.

It's everywhere, and so if we don't equip one another to be able to do this, it's going to overwhelm us. But let me just ask you a real quick question, Jamal. Jamal Unruh Sure. Darrell Bock What do you, as you've processed, now that your father has passed away, and you walk through this journey, and tell me about your sister again. Jamal Unruh She was a sister figure. She was the main caregiver for my father. We became closer during that time, but she was a nurse and a little bit of computer work, but we became close while she was a caregiver for my father. Darrell Bock Well, what changes did you see in you as you went through this process, from start to finish? How are you different now that you've had a chance to kind of reflect on this?

Jamal Unruh It made me look at the long picture, and it made me look at others. A lot of times we want to focus in on our own deal, our own schedule, and a lot of times like the Good Samaritan on the road, well, you know, that guy's on the road, he's helpful, but I got somewhere to go to. Do I need to go? I need the music. Darrell Bock No, you can hang on through the break. How about that? Can you hang on through the break? Jamal Unruh I can.

Darrell Bock All right. If you want to hold, we'll just hang on through the break. Thank you for hearing that, by the way.

Most people don't. They just talk right over it. So that's good ears there, good catch there, Jamal. That's Jamal in Winston-Salem. This is Peter Rosenberger here on Truth Talk Live, 866, or Truth. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

I am Peter Rosenberger. I'm glad to have you with us today, 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884, if you want to be a part of the program. We're talking with Jamal in Winston-Salem. Jamal has been listening to my program that airs here on this network every week, and it's called Hope for the Caregiver. You can go out to hopeforthecaregiver.com if you want to see some more information about that, because that's what the main focus of everything I do is, and it's given me the wherewithal to have some clarity on some other issues, because one of the things about being a caregiver is you have to learn how to deal with the main thing, what's the priority.

And as I say to my audience, myself, healthy caregivers make better caregivers. And Jamal was telling me some things he's learned and things that have changed in him. Jamal, I wanted to go back to that and ask you very quickly, what do you feel like you have learned about God that you've come to an understanding about in your life that you did not have before this journey with your father? That he will disrupt your schedule so you can be a better servant to others.

That's a mouthful, Jamal. That's a sermon right there, man. You could just say that, take up an offering, and go home. I mean, that is just a sermon right there.

He is not uncomfortable with our discomfort. Is that what you're telling me? Definitely.

Coming from you, that's saying a lot, sir. And when we also have to have patience and learn how to deflect certain behaviors, that's also displaying patience and forgiveness like Jesus did. So when that patient, client, whoever you want to call that person you're looking out for, if they are lashing out at you, don't take it personally. Did you take it personally a couple of times? Yes, I did. Yes, I did, and I said, how can I get mad at this guy who's in recovery for about eight years?

How can I get mad at this guy who is pretty much bound to his house? So as bad as it is, as bad as it is for the other caregivers, I cannot take it personally. And forgive me for saying this, I just wanted to catch on to the political scene before I get out of here. No, it's all good. It's your time. It's just you and me, Jamal. Ain't nobody else here. Just you and me. I hear you. Okay. Might be a few other people listening, but I hear you.

Well, maybe a few. Right, right. But this ties into church, and this is one of the main driving forces with me. It doesn't really matter what political strap you come from, if you follow the Bible and you're around good biblically based people in a biblically based church, you're going to vote a certain kind of way. And I'll just mention it from me, not from Peter, Truth Network, it's from me, but I believe it's also from the Bible. The Bible says that God need you before you are formed in a womb.

You are fifthly and one-fifty made. So that means that God is pro-life. God also said that you are to sell your cloak and pick up a sword. That means you're for self-defense, which means that we can defend ourselves with whatever kind of weapons that are reasonable. God also said that we are to care for the poor, yes, but we are to care for the poor, but also to use the talent that they have been given themselves.

For a man who does not work, does not eat, so on and so forth. So when you go through and look at the Bible, there's only one way that you can vote in my opinion. And if not in my opinion, sorry to offend those guys, it's not the Democratic Party way because they are antithetical a lot of times, too many times, to what the Bible says to what God says. Darrell Bock Well, you know, there's a whole series of sermons out there from a lot of pastors who just vote the Bible. Here's what the Bible says. And I go back to what Franklin Graham said in that quote, it's not that you're falling in love and sending a valentine to this candidate.

It's a chess move for the world you want to live in. And I just heard the spot between the breaks there of Billy Graham talking about where to be the salt and the light. How are we going to be salt and light if we are adopting the same values that the world has with this culture rot that we have? And we have a responsibility. What does Scripture say and who closest gets to that? It's not going to be perfect. It can't be perfect because the only perfect one is Christ. But you're right, Jamal, and you get involved in a Bible-believing church, but we have to be courageous, and we have to be willing to model this.

And I want to ask you one last question before I let you go here. I've said this. This is a statement I've made several times, and I just want to see if it connects with you. There's nothing like taking care of somebody with severe challenges for a while – in my case, I've been doing it decades – to expose the gunk that's in our own soul.

Is that something you saw that exposed you? I mean, it did for me, and I had to see myself in ways that I didn't want to see myself. But God in His mercy allows us to see enough of our sin to put us to our knees. In His mercy, He doesn't show us all of it because it would annihilate us. But were you able to see yourself differently in that and then see the redemptive work of Christ differently in your life through this process?

Most definitely, Peter. When my father was pretty much bound to his home, and I could leave his house anytime I wanted to, I could get in my car anytime I wanted to, I could go to a restaurant, a movie theater, I could walk around a park and get a fresh breath of air. I didn't have to see the same people every day. I was ambulatory. I could move around just walking, which he could not do on his own. And it gave me more of appreciation for the things that I take advantage of.

And it became a humbling scenario, and it gave me another perspective on how even the small blessings are still blessings. And one more thing on the political thing, I'm not trying to get away from that. No, no. It's all good.

Thank you. I feel the whole spirit tugging me, tugging on me, tugging on my heart. This is not an anti-democratic thing that I was saying. I love people who are not, who don't think exactly like me. I had to give credit to Mr. Dwight Gilligan, who said, well, brother, you got to reach out to them and bring them in. Not fight really against people that don't think like you, but, you know, find some kind of common ground.

Bring them in. So anybody that doesn't think like this, I love you. However, I want to say this, you got to vote the right kind of way, and in my way, vote in the conservative way, the Christian way is the right way. You vote how you want to vote, how your heart leads you. But to me, there's no other way than to follow Christ's way.

But to tie it back to my dad and being a caregiver, if you really want to appreciate your life, look after somebody else who's less fortunate than you are. Well, I think that mirrors so much of what Scripture talks about, and you're right. We're not here to fight in the conventional sense.

We're here to win hearts and minds with this, and you're not going to do that by getting into a pitched battle. We have to understand that the world looks at the state, the government, as a deity at this point. That's their deity. That's their Savior. It's a religion.

And you can see it on parade. And I've heard one commentator go so far as to say abortion is their sacrament. And so if you understand that level of the fallen human condition, and then what does Scripture say about that? Well, we're to go into that. We're to go into this boldly and confidently of the Gospel, no matter what they do. Martin Luther said it best, let goods – well, he didn't say it best, but he said it pretty good. He didn't say it best, but he said, �Let goods and kindred go, this mortal life also, the body they may kill, God's truth abideth still.� And Paul says, �Let go of everything and press on to Christ.� And if this is not our attitude, and if this is not our passion and our wherewithal in front of our minds, what they call TOMA, Top of Mind Awareness, T-O-M-A, if this is not there, then what are we doing? What are we about? If we believe this, and Paul said this, and then C.S.

Lewis came back and wrote it many years later, said, �If this is true, then there's really nothing else that's important.� If what we're seeing in Scripture is true, which it is, then nothing else is important, and our faith should reflect that. And these are things I've learned, Jamal, but I didn't learn them in political class. I learned them caregiving, just like you, because you have to learn to empty yourself and say, �I'm gonna trust Christ with something that looks so painful, horrific, heartbreaking, and I've learned that he is greater than all those things.� And that gives me the confidence to go into other people's misery and heartache with that great hope of the Gospel. And I tell this to my fellow caregivers. I say, �Look, if you're not there yet, where you have this kind of confidence, that's a okay.

Borrow some of mine, because I do have it.� I've been doing this for four decades. And so it gives me that bonus to say, �I'm going to go into the ick of people's lives. I'm willing to do it, because I am so convinced of this great Gospel.� And there are things that are so heartbreaking to see. It was heartbreaking for you to watch your father go through this. Heartbreaking.

I mean, just brutal. And yet you were able to understand the provision and faithfulness of God and see his redeeming work in your life, Jamal, in ways that you hadn't before. And this is what anchors us. So I really appreciate you taking the time to share this, and I'm grateful that my show has been a source of comfort and strength to you. Now you have a responsibility, Jamal, in addition to what you've done today.

There are other caregivers out there who don't know this yet, and now that you do, now that you have witnessed what God can do in these tough situations, you're called upon to go and share. And you've got to teach other people now, Jamal. I'm sorry, but you've got to.

I do. And thank you very much, and take care, and God bless you all. It is such a treat to talk to you, Jamal. Thank you for taking the time to call. I'm so sorry we're not going to be able to get to all the calls today. The clock jumps away from us here, and Nick is going to start beating me over the head. But I'm grateful that you guys have allowed me to spend some time with you today to talk about this value-driven ballot decisions. Study your Scriptures. There are men, as Will Rogers said, running governments who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches. We have got to step into this with the wisdom, the clarity, the salt in the light of the Gospel. This is Peter Rosenberger, HopeForTheCaregiver.com. If you want to find out more, we'll see you next time.