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Happy Independence..From India

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June 30, 2023 7:00 pm

Happy Independence..From India

Truth Talk / Stu Epperson

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June 30, 2023 7:00 pm

 Stu interviews Dr. Abidan Shah, pastor of Clearview Baptist Church. Listen as he shares what life in America and Independence means to him.

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Enjoy it, share it, but most of all, thank you for choosing the Truth Network Podcast. How do you explain, how could you love this country, being someone who was born in India? Well, you know, at one time, there were people who would come to me. They don't do that anymore because they know where I'm going to go with it. They would immediately expect me to say negative things about America. Now, of course, our nation has issues we need to work on, and they would start talking about, you know, how bad this is and hoping for me to chime in, but they didn't realize who they were talking to.

Very quickly, I would say, I actually love this country, and I promise you, if you were to go to places like where I grew up, you wouldn't last 15 minutes. The freedoms that we have in this nation, the foundation of this nation, the Christian foundation, gives us the freedom that we have. Other places, wonderful places, wonderful people, but it's not the same, and it's because this nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.

And as somebody who comes from the outside, it's so readily apparent. People fuss about women's rights, and I'm like, trust me, some of the places I've been to, women have no rights. In fact, they used to burn the widows in India, thanks to William Carey and other Christian missionaries that stopped that. That's right, and Christianity brought dignity to people, and so I, for one, I'm grateful, I'm blessed to be living in this great nation and to be able to share the gospel and to take the gospel to other parts of the world. Well now, your associate here, Pastor John, is grinning and smiling and nodding his head, which is interesting because we're talking about Independence Day, it's that time of year, we're celebrating the great freedom of America, July 4th, with the fireworks and all of that. But Pastor John, your senior pastor, he doesn't look like maybe most Americans, he didn't come from America, but he is patriotic, and he loves this country, and he loves the Lord above all, we know that.

I mean, that's no secret, but talk about the influence that's been on you and maybe about your feelings about this time of year. Sometimes you need that, sometimes you need someone who came from, I hate to say outsider, an outsider, that's not the best word to say, but sometimes you need someone who wasn't born here, who comes from a different culture, who puts value back into it and says, no, what you have here in America is, well, I grew up here, I grew up incredibly privileged, and I feel like when you do grow up here and you see it all the time, you do take for granted what you have, because you don't know anything else. And so being able to study under Dr. Shaw and listen to his preaching and then hear his stories, hear his experiences about growing up overseas, I truly believe that, that there's no way, if I lived there now, that I'd last a year.

I just couldn't do it. And it puts gratitude back where it's supposed to be. Well, sadly, these kids on the college campus, God bless them, we need to reach them. And sadly, many of them are like Christian or claim to be, come from Christian homes, but their professors are fomenting socialism and just so excited about socialism and so excited about communism.

And man, this is going to work. This is Barack Obama big time pushing the socialist agenda in America, President Biden. That is, by the way, not a statement of anger or vitriol, that's just their belief system. They are big fans of Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and the folks that pretty much destroyed Albania, Romania, you know, in the communist regimes, Cuba, Venezuela, the fourth wealthiest country in the world 20, 25 years ago, now is people are dying there. It's a horrible situation. It's impoverished.

They can barely get food to the children, but socialism. And so we have these forces invading and even invading the church and, you know, it's all in our government. And so we, Dr. Shaw, there's a responsibility, but a stewardship that we could lose all of this great freedom.

And of course, we're not idolizing America or worshiping America, but God has put us in this country. How do you handle all this coming out? When are we going to learn?

Like people like you from India, you just shared it. That's so profound. When are we going to get a clue and wake up to this stuff? Well, for me, it has been, I grew up in a good home. My dad, my mom gave me those values, those principles to understand what makes America what it is. And I have made it my mission. And our team will tell you that is to learn the history of this nation.

Yes, because history is being rewritten with all this woke ideology is being rewritten and go back to the roots. In fact, this Sunday, I'm going to talk about the Lycian League in our church. OK, so so, of course, I'm going to preach the word, but I'm going to talk about the Lycian League, which was the Greek Federation when James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, all these people were doing the Federalist Papers. They were talking about how can we get these states to work together?

Of course, Bible is the most quoted book or source in all these writings. But the next to that were all these ideas coming from the Greek Federation. How can we work together? How can we have checks and balances? How can we have the executive, legislative and judicial branches that will make sure that no one abuses the other? This kind of system does not exist anywhere in the world. Great American experiment.

Yeah. And Americans take it for granted and they get all hype about the socialist Marxist communist ideology as if that's going to work. It's destroyed countries everywhere.

And the interesting thing about the socialist in order to create that change for socialism to succeed, capitalism has to die. Right. So you see our government intentionally trying to shut down supply chains, trying to push this green. This is an evil thing. This climate change. Oh, yes, of course. Forcing people into the electric, you know, and shutting down our we used to be oil independent. Right. Shutting down that, you know, which they've done.

And now we're buying oil from our enemies, depending on them. Pastor John, you've got some pretty strong feelings about that. Well, I mean, it's a dangerous game. If you if you know Dr. Shah, if you follow his work, you know that he's an educator. He's a professor at Carolina University, but he's also a junked, like you said, kind of this morning, all over the place teaching. And I don't think it's an accident that this is happening in the universities.

I mean, it's it's a very, very dangerous game. You mentioned these these ideologies that have, like you said, Dr. Shah, have destroyed countries. That's why I'm very grateful that education is so important to you and that your your heart is with the text of the New Testament. But it's also in scholarship. It's also in education, because how do you go? How do you destroy a country?

You go after its young people who are old enough to think, but still young enough to be molded. Yeah. And none of these countries, Brazil, Venezuela, none of these countries. Argentina is facing it. None of these countries set out to say, we're going to put a corrupt form of socialism in. Right. They all said this is we're going to do it the right way. We're going to do it better than Romania did. Where they wait in line now for bread for, you know, eight hours. Right. And they only get to the front and say, no, we're out.

Come back tomorrow. Russia, these other places. None of them said we're going to do it. They just. But the system is an anti-God system. Right. You know, these these are nice people.

President Obama's a nice he's a nice man. But he his ideology is that of a humanistic, socialistic. That's right. And in order to accomplish that, he's got to call you a racist. Right. He's got to call me a racist. And he's got to create this hate among each other. And he's got to he's got to chip away at the capitalism. That's right. You know, the you go.

No, you don't need to work hard. Let your government do it for you. Give us more money.

And that could lead to a real. But if the if the foundation that people need to understand and as an educator is this anti-God is man on the throne as opposed to God. See, let's talk for a moment about the Greek federations at the heart of every one of these city states was autonomy. We're going to run things. Are we going to let anybody else control us? And then coming together as federations, they said we can now we're going to work together to make sure some some big city like Athens or Sparta doesn't control us.

How can we do this? Our founding fathers were learning from these Greek federalism and bringing it together. But it was based sitting on the foundation of in God we trust or one nation under God. So empowering people in freedom. Yes. As opposed to saying the government has got got your back. Right.

How beautiful is that? So we think that the Constitution is outmoded or that system, you know, these all white guys from the seventeen hundreds running the show. To the contrary, these people were setting this nation up for generations to come. And they did it on the right foundation of the Bible.

Wow. And to me, when people attack America or talk junk or say there's a better system or look how terrible it is, either they're naive or they're very, very they have an ulterior motive. They do not want to move to those other countries. No, they don't even move to Canada.

I don't know what's wrong. But Dr. Shaw, that all that said, coming from a man who's who was born in India and you've been in America and God's blessed your ministry. And it's very important to say, especially with Independence Day right here with us and celebrating folks are already cracking out the hot dogs and they're firing up the grill. That's right. This is not worship America time.

No, no, no. But it's celebrating God's favor on this earth and on this country. And in this country could go down, down in flames, just like it was raised. You know, so we've got to recognize that God is on his throne and it's him and he only we worship. Our home is not on this earth. That's right.

I think some Christians can go maybe a little too far on that, you know, worship America bandwagon. Right. But but what you're talking about is, and yeah, there was challenges and there was racism. Absolutely.

There was there were evil things happening early on. But the idea is it's it's it's a free place. That's right. It's free for any Muslim to come and worship. That's right. Any Hindu to come and worship.

That's right. Anyone from from any foreign country come to America and worship, whatever, whoever you like. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion and free for us to have a radio show like this to talk about that. And if socialism and communism has the way, folks, you can be as mad or as happy as what we're talking about here.

There will be no radio show. That's right. We can't just speak. We can't have differing opinions. We can't even have someone on who's an atheist to debate.

That's right. Because the government knows better. The government who's trying to monitor your every, you know, every dime and dollar.

They know better. And so that's why we really want to as stewards of our country, your final challenge to people as citizens of America, but also citizens of the greater kingdom of God as we get out of here. Dr. Shaw, my challenge is to pray for revival in this nation. Pray that God will send a revival starting in our little churches everywhere into our communities, because that is the ultimate hope is that nation will return to the Lord.

Amen. Thank you guys so much, Pastor John. Give that Web site one more time for the church and in the radio program.

Absolutely. That's a Clearview, B.C., dot org. You can find all of Dr. Shaw's work on his Web site. Abaddon shot dot com. And you can listen to the radio show in addition to here on the Truth Network at Clearview today show dot com. This is the Truth Network.
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