We'll Never Go That Far

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three four eight seventy eight eighty four. I want to begin with today with a sentence. A sentence I've heard many times during my life. I suspect that you've heard it as well. We'll never go that far.

You ever heard that? Yes, we may change this, but we'll never go that far. We may make an exception here, but we'll never go that far. Are you familiar with that phrase? We may move this particular boundary But surely the next boundary will halt.

We'll never go that far. I want to hear from you about that. 866-34-TRUTH-866. Three, four, eight. 70884.

What boundary were you once told that society would never cross. And where's that boundary?

Now. And I'm not necessarily asking this as a political question, I'm asking it as a theological question. Where do boundaries come from? Who has the authority to establish them? What happens?

When we moved And what makes us think after moving one boundary we will possess the disciplined to stop at the next one. Years ago, and I'll give you the context of this, excuse me, years ago, decades, decades ago.

Okay, this will give you an idea of the scope of this. Gracie and I were traveling, we're on an airplane. And we were seated beside a woman who held a leadership position. in the Episcopal Women's Association or organization or something. And Somehow our conversation turned to changes occurring within the Episcopal Church at that time.

including its growing acceptance of homosexual relationships. And I asked her a question. I think do you think your denomination she she was in leadership of this? And I said, Do you think your denomination will eventually perform same-sex marriages. And she answered immediately, Oh no, I don't think we'll ever go that far.

That was their sentence. We'll never go that far. Yeah. At the time same-sex marriage remain inconceivable to A great many Americans, political leaders in both parties opposed it. You can go back and look at the tape of it.

I mean, they all. uh came out against it. But there was a theological problem with her answer.

Now remember, she is an officer within a major organization of this denomination. And she said, we'll never go that far in having homosexual marriages. And I said, well, if the church approves of a homosexual relationship but refuses to recognize marriage. What moral category does that leave the relationship in? You you've absolved them.

And I put quotes around that. their homosexuality. You're saying this is morally acceptable, but marriage is still off the table.

So, what you've done is you've condemned them to then fornication and. It may be even adultery. And she said, she looked really startled when I said that. She said, well, I hadn't thought about that. I said, well, take a moment.

Um you know, but but here we are. This this is what you've done. And she had not followed the argument to its logical destination most people don't, and they don't really think of the unintended consequences. They just say, Well, we want to, out of compassion, we want to recognize these individuals.

Well, now look what you've done.

Okay, you you've created a bigger problem. And we say, well, we're only asking for this.

Well, that doesn't seem so unreasonable. But then the next person doesn't stop. at that. They begin at the boundary you pushed. And so here we are, and that's how boundaries move not with usually an enormous leap.

They just sometimes move through a Series of reasonable sounding ex exceptions there. We would never go that far. But now that far is Quite a few exits behind us, isn't it? What boundary were you once assured Society would never cross. And where's that boundary now?

866-34 TRUTH. Bucksman. Weighs in. He's got a story to share on that. Bucksman?

Welcome to the program. What are your thoughts on this? Paul. Awesome to hear from you, Peter, and thank you for being a staunch. Stake in the ground where you can't go this far, Peter.

We need more Christians like you. Sir, so thanks for that. I'm glad you. Held that woman to the biblical standard and didn't move because a lot of men may. Uh have done that.

So I'm very proud of you on that point. The one I saw the most That actually ended up taking my brother's life, because it was uh When in 2021, this was just what five years ago. They uh they mandated all Americans to get an untrusted vaccine. Put in their body, and if they did not. They lost their job.

They weren't allowed to go to places They weren't allowed in baseball stadiums. They weren't even allowed on beaches. you know And I thought that will never happen, you know, especially in. 2020 when the pandemic hit. And they started talking about this vaccine.

I thought, you know, they'll never make people get it. And sure enough, just like you said in your intro, Peter, not only Did they? Why that's several exits behind us now, and my brother's dead. from the mRNA vaccine shop that was mandated for him to give.

So I never thought that we would ever get to a place where society. would actually Say okay. Um I'm going to put an untested substance into my body. because you told me to and then not push back. But Peter, as we can see, and I've got a dead brother because of it.

Um We didn't we didn't plant in the ground.

So that's the one that's just recent in my hand. was We would never go and push and make sure and throttle you and then even punish you. if you didn't get a pharmaceutical put inside your body. I never thought we would get like that, especially in the United States. We don't have exactly an exemplary track record of this, and there's an enormous amount of folks in the African American community who would concur based on the Tuskegee experiments.

And nobody's you're such a wise man. Thanks, Peter, for bringing it up.

Well, that's an ugly stain on our country, and we've got plenty of them. And so we have, I was listening to this one stand-up comedian. and he was talking about conspiracy theories and and and people accused him of being a conspiracy theorist. And he looked at him and he said, are you saying that your US government has never lied to you, that they're batting 1,000 and never lied? Because he said, I have two kids and I've lied to them.

And so I thought that was a very clever way of saying, look, when human, wherever two or three are gathered, you're going to have problems. And that's just the nature of human nature. We're going to have people that want to push boundaries, are going to want to be duplicitous in this. And it's like I told this lady: I said, okay, here's what you've done. And and she truly had not even thought about that.

And I said, well, here's what Scripture says about Our sexuality, and you're saying it's okay for them to do this, but what about this? And we would never go that far, and of course, now look at where we are. And we're going to talk some more about that. Uh, the next block because I've got three more words on that. But, Buxman, thank you for calling on that.

I grieve with you over your brother on this and uh a whole lot of other folks that were caught up in the duplicitness of this country and what they The Orwellian stance that they took. I don't know how better you say it than that. But it's a dark stain on our country, and I hope the truth will be ferreted out. I'm not optimistic that it will, but here's what I have learned, biblically speaking: that time and truth are on the same side. And we may not get the justice in this world, but we can be assured that the Lord of all justice will deal with it.

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We always do. We'll be right back. Truth Talk Life! You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live.

This is Peter Rosenberger. Glad to be with you, 866-348-7884-866-34 TRUTH. Before we get back to the topic of the day, and by the way, if you have something else that you want to talk about, feel free. I also wanted to let you know, I've got an article out today on my substack, caregiver.substack.com. Caregiver.

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A lot of it's focused on the family caregiver. As you probably know, that's what I do. And but I also observe these things, the principles I've learned as a caregiver, and apply them to caring for our country and stewardship of our country. And stewardship's a big part of being a caregiver. I have to be a good steward.

of me. There's only one of me. And I'm standing between my wife and even worse challenges.

So I need to be a good steward of me. And I apply those same principles to people who want to be good stewards of this country or who ask for the job. And then I ask, are they being good stewards? And so you can read that at caregiver.substack.com. We're talking today about boundaries.

that society said they wouldn't cross But where are the boundaries now? And as I mentioned in the last block, I'm sitting on the plane with this woman who is an officer in the Episcopal Women's Association. I don't remember the name of the organization, but it was the National Organization of Episcopal Women. We just happened to be and we struck up a conversation. And at that time, there was a real debate in the Anglican church about homosexuals coming into the church.

And I asked, just straight up, I said, Do you think you'll do a uh ceremony for uh homosexual couples to get married. And she says, oh, no, no, no, we won't go that far. And she was very confident they wouldn't go that far. And until I asked her, I said, well, how do you get around the fornication and adultery component? Because if you're saying that they're okay to be homosexuals, They're engaging in sexual behaviour outside of marriage.

Now what do you do? You you see the Pandora's box, if you will. uh the the ket of worms that you've opened up. and unintended consequences are what Always follows when people are trying to push these boundaries. You know, and we look at things, we say, well, this is desirable.

This is this is this is good. This is okay. And then what follows is usually calamity, and we can trace that all the way back. to the garden. and uh Eve looked at it and saw that it was what?

desirable. And then she took it, she ate it, and she gave it to Adam. And, you know, and here we are.

So we'll never go that far.

Well, yes, we will. It's in our nature now. That's our nature is to constantly push against these things. And many of you will remember Bill Clinton saying And his went about abortion. He said it should be safe, legal, and rare.

Safe legal and rare.

Now think about those words. the work that's being performed by those words safe, it sounds responsible. legal settled the political question. But rare performed a moral function in that. That sounds like a nice thing.

Safe, legal, and rare. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. That sounds compassionate. Rare acknowledged that abortion was, at the very least, regrettable. That's what rare means.

We don't. We hope this doesn't happen very often And you're communicating that this is not something we want to do. But if we have to We want to make sure it's safe, legal, and rare. That's what they're saying.

So if someone believed abortion should remain legal, the word rare suggests that it was not something to encourage. celebrate or treat casually It was presented as a tragic necessity How'd that turn out? Did the word rare Survive? Yeah. Over time the language changed, as it often does.

George Orwell talked about that. Abortion was no longer something that should remain legal under limited circumstances, it became a Right. Then it became Health care. Then it became something that must be destigmatized. Tom Cruise has a new movie that he's in the works for, Days of Thunder Part 2.

And I don't know if you've seen the thing here. I don't know if you've followed this or not. care. But anyway, it's out there and you know he's arguably the biggest movie star on on the planet. And instead of casting the Um the lady was in the first what was her name?

Nic Nicole Uh who knows. Anyway, he's cast Ann Hathaway.

Now Ann Hathaway um Um pretty famous actress. But there's all types of clips now. The clip is actually one clip, but it's being played repeatedly all throughout social media. and it was in twenty twenty two where she said abortion can be another word for mercy. Those are her words.

You see her say it.

Okay, you can just watch it. Go see for yourself. Abortion is another word for mercy.

Now, remember when safe, legal, and rare, and now it's merciful to give an abortion. It's another word for mercy, according to Ann Hathaway. And Tom Cruise is being excoriated for picking this woman to do it, and they're thinking it may have a negative impact on the movie. I don't know. That's, you know, not my circus, not my monkeys.

But that's what's going on.

Now I can tell you that Ann Hathaway and I have a very diff different definition of mercy. But that language matters. And see, the next level of depravity. never introduces itself as Depravity. It comes as compassion.

Oh, it's merciful. We're going to protect someone. I know that we set out To be safe, legal, and rare. thirty years ago. We'll never go that far.

Now remember what that lady said on the plane? Oh, we'll never go that far. How do you think that h has held up? Do you have situations in your life where you've seen this or you've seen boundaries? You thought, oh, we'll never do that.

You know, we'll never go that far. Or maybe you've seen it in your own personal life.

Well, I'll do this, but I'll I'll never go that far. And then all of a sudden, what happens? Why do you suppose that is? 866-305. For truth, 866-348-7884.

Have you ever noticed there's a phrase that you find. Sin begets Sin. Since Begets sin, and I'm using a little bit of King James on there. You know, who am I to? Go against what the Apostle Paul used.

He used the King James Version, right? But sin begets sin. The wages of sin or death, as what Paul says in Roman, But sin begets sin. And it it it It is Yeah. You know, it it's one of those things where it cannot help but re reproduce itself to that.

What what does cancer do? Cancer begets cancer. And you have to eradicate it. You don't negotiate with it. You don't sit there and try to mitigate it and say, well, we won't let it go.

It's in one lung, but it'll never go that far into the next lung. you know That's it's cancer. That's what cancer does. Sin begets sin.

So You know, If you are participating in this, where do you think it's going to go? If you're allowing this, What do you think is going to happen next? And the next group that comes along, are they going to go back to the beginning? Are they going to start where you ended? 866 34 Truth, 866-348-7884.

We'll never go that far. And we're going to talk about how far we really have gone when we come back. This is Peter Rosenberger. This is Truth Talk Live. We will be right back.

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7884 and before I left the program I'll be left the block of the last block and went to the break. I talked about this: sin begets sin. Sin begets sin.

It can't it it is its nature to produce more sin. Romans 6:19, previously you let yourselves be slaves to impurity and lawlessness, which led. E led uh ever deeper into sin. James 1, 14-15. These desires give birth to sinful actions.

When sin is allowed to grow, it gives birth to death. Hmm. And I'll I'll I'll give you an example. Do you think On the day that when the kings went out to battle, David stayed home. That he thought he would murder one of his mighty men, Uriah.

No, if you told him that, he said, I'll never go that far. But he went up on the rooftop when he should have been at battle And he saw Bathsheba. And then He got her pregnant. and then he tried to cover that up, And Uriah was an honorable man. and wouldn't participate.

And David had him murdered. I mean, do you see how fast This thing went sin begets sin. We'll never go that far. And so what I Ask that lady on the plane. As I said in the first and second block.

I said, you guys in the Episcopal Church have said this long time ago when this first started coming into our churches, you said it's okay. To bring homosexuals into the Anglican community and communion there and the Episcopal Church and You're saying that's okay? And I said, Are you going to marry him? She said, Oh no, we'll never go that far. I said, Okay, so they're going to just commit fornication and adultery then?

And the look on her face was astonishing. I mean, she was just truly stunned. She had no idea, she hadn't truly not thought about that. And so now look at where we are. We not only have gay marriage, but we have.

Gay priest, gay I mean, we got it's everywhere. And this I I remember listening to this decades ago. And I was listening to Rush Limbaugh talk about this. And he said, once we accepted, Homosexuality, it was no longer closeted or taboo or anything like that in our society. Then we have to go to another level of depravity and another.

We're going to have to have gay marriage, we're going to have to have this, we're going to have to and they're going to keep pushing and pushing, and they will never stop. They will never stop. And here we are. August tenth. Massachusetts Governor Mara Healy signed the Prioritizing Patient Access to Care Act.

Oh, that sounds so nice. Prioritizing Patient Access to Care Act I mean, you couldn't come up with a nicer way of saying it. Before this law, Massachusetts allowed abortions after twenty-four weeks only under specified conditions. Those including preserving the mother's life or the physical and mental health. or responding to a uh a lethal or a grave fetal diagnosis.

The new statute, August 10th, not even a month ago, Removed those conditions And here's what the new law says. An abortion may be performed by a physician based upon the professional judgment of the physician. That's the language. There is no upper gestational limit.

Now, I'm not saying that every physician in Massachusetts is going to perform an abortion moments before delivery. I'm not predicting what every hospital or doctor will do. I'm telling you what the law says and what it no longer says. The previous law established conditions after 24 weeks. The new law removed those conditions.

And replace them with the professional judgment of the physician.

Some will say, well, you know, doctors aren't going to go that far. Really?

Now let me take it out of this particular issue for just a moment. Let's talk about something that has nothing to do with any of that. Let's just go with plastic surgery. Have you seen some of the plastic surgery done on people? Have you seen some of these actors and actresses?

who have horrific plastic surgery. Oh, we'll never go that far and then look at 'em. And and look at what's going on with kids. Back in Nashville, when I used to live in Nashville, my wife went to Vanderbilt quite a bit. I was over there all the time with stuff.

And they were. All in. on this whole children and transitioning male to female kind of stuff. Until Tennessee legislature stepped in, I believe. Correct me on that, but I think they understand that there was a real blowback and they stopped it.

So we're going to rely on the professional judgment of doctors. Which doctors?

Now, I don't mean that witch, as a W-I-T-C-H. Can you identify the doctors that are going to do this? I'm going to be very clear. I don't want to have some shaman up there, but who knows? Are are are these doctors sharing the values?

Are they having that we would have a society? We'll never go that far. If we agree that we should never go that far, then why remove the boundary that prevents it? Why must our protection depend upon an assurance? We'll never go that far.

rather than a limit. If someone says nobody intends to do this, then why object to a law clearly stating that it must not be done?

Well, nobody's gonna you know, nobody's gonna do that. We're not going to go that far. But the statute no longer says that. The statute asks us to trust that every person involved will somehow stop.

Somewhere the law itself refuses to identify. You know, just common, we'll, we'll, you know, we're never going to go that far.

Well, that's not a boundary. That's discretion. And discretion changes. with the person exercising it. The argument is often that extreme situations demand flexibility.

But once flexibility replaces the boundary, The exception becomes the new rule. Remember, Bill Clinton said It's got to be safe, legal, and rare. It's not desirable. And now we have You know, award-winning actresses out there say, oh, it's mercy. It's mercy.

We have people in the pulpit. saying that it is a gift from God. They're saying this in the pulpit. Go look. Don't take my word for it.

Just go do a search on it if you've got the stomach for it. And eventually We test it. That's how this works. We ease up to a boundary, we just sneak up to it, we test it. kind of lean over it.

Then we create an exception. Then we create another exception.

Well, I won't hurt to have just a little bit. It's just just a taste. Eventually the exception swallows up the boundary. And then the person who remembers where the boundary used to be becomes. The problem.

They're called hateful. bigots. She's extreme. All because she remembers where the boundary was. They're lacking compassion.

I watched this last week. Because in Virginia there's a music teacher Who is a transgender? Quote unquote. And their parents tried to opt out of that so their kids don't have to do it because the music teacher affects all the different grades. And so all these kids are having to go, and the school is not allowing any kind of opt-out program.

And another guy dressed up as a woman stood in front of the council and just embarked. It looked like a linebacker. And it was basically saying, look, if these people don't like this, they need to be, the bigots need to be hauled away and taken away. If you don't like what I'm telling you, then I have to imprison you. I have to remove you.

What does that sound like to you? That certainly doesn't sound like free speech, number one. Number two, if you dissent, if you don't approve of this, I will make sure that the State punishes you. You will be. corrected.

You will be I mean Hillary Clinton called for this You know Years ago. Trump supporters need to be put into educational programs so we can uh be corrected. I mean that I th don't take my word for it. Go look it up. I'm just observing this thing and seeing it, and I'm coming to you, and I'm saying.

Oh, wa we'll never go that far. We'll never go that far. We passed that far a long. time ago. The person standing where the boundary stood for centuries.

It's now Yeah.

Well, I mean, you know, we're gonna have to do everything and and and Erasable ink here. You know, the Ten Commandments were written in stone.

Okay. Not in pencil.

Something to think about. In stone They weren't the ten suggestions. And yet here we are. And then, again, it's not enough. That you have to agree with them.

you cannot ever say anything negative about it. And if you don't think that's what's happening right now in our country, It's time for you to pay attention. We don't get the luxury. of burying our heads in the sand. We don't get just to hang out in the choir loft.

We've got to go out into the community. and be salt in light. Because let me tell you something. They're going that far. and they're going to go further.

and apart from the redemptive work of Christ.

So will you and me. King David did it. That's Truth Talk Live, 866-34-TRUTH. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com.

Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. This is Peter Rosenberger, 866-34 TRUTH, 866-348-7884. We'll never go that far. That is the topic for today. We'll never go that far.

And here we are. Here we are, and it goes back again. I've said it for those of you now just joining, you may be just in your car. I sat next to a lady who was an officer in a national. Women's Association for the Episcopal Church.

This was decades ago. And it the homosexual thing coming into the church was starting to really take some root and I asked if they were going to ever perform gay marriage and she said oh no we'll never go that far and I simply asked So what do you do about fornication and adultery? And she didn't have a response. She didn't know what to say. unintended consequences.

And um we'll never go that far. And yet look at where we are. If somebody came to you and said, I want you to remove this fence. around the cliff. You asked why?

Don't don't don't worry. Nobody intends to drive over the edge. Would that reassure you? If no one intends to drive over the edge, why remove the fence? A boundary is not an accusation against every one that is standing near it.

A boundary recognizes what human beings are capable of doing when desire, fear, pressure, ideology, or something takes control. That's why we have it. There's a boundary there. Don't cross that. We'll never go that far.

And again, I I could give just one example. besides g Adam and Eve, but King David. I promise you he did not wake up. That morning, and think I'm going to murder one of my mighty men. And yet, look how quickly the chain of events led him to do.

Just that. We look at David Because of his adultery with Bathsheba. And we always refer to the scarlet A there. I wanna stand it. It it and he uh he earned it.

But he was a murderer. He committed cold blooded murder. I mean premeditated. He thought it through. all to cover up his sin.

Yeah. On that topic Let's go to the last place today. This is very uncomfortable and very unpleasant. I would tell you I'm sorry. But here we are.

As of right now, the jury in the Lindsay Clancy case. They say they're deadlocked. The judge judges sent them back several times. The three children are dead. Three children.

And this woman Planned it. She sent her husband out so she'd have time to do it.

Now the defense is saying that She's got postpartum psychosis and mental illness and so forth. I I'm not professional.

So I can't weigh in on that. but I am a little bit concerned about what's going on outside the courtroom. These people are screaming and yelling and they're for the lawyer that's for Lindsay Lindsay's lawyer and for Lindsay. But I don't I can't help but notice they're not spending time talking about her children, Cora, Dawson. Kalin or Callan, We'll never go that far.

But somehow that far keeps becoming right here. And in Massachusetts, Where we had a month ago a governor signing a bill saying that we could leave it up to doctors to determine whether or not we can abort at up until the birth. We've already had a governor in Virginia. You know, less than 10 years ago, that said, you know, if a child is born and has some kind of medical issue, whatever, we'll just put it aside and we'll have a conversation. We already had that.

You remember that, Governor Ralph uh Northern. The judge has told these jurors to continue deliberating, and this is a very difficult case. And she doesn't deny killing her three kids. Her defense argues that her postpartum psychosis left her unable to appreciate the wrongfulness of her actions. Prosecute Prosecut prosecutors are arguing that she understood exactly what she was doing and she planned it.

I'm not on the jury. And neither are the people rallying outside the courthouse. And we have a commitment to pray, a mandate to pray for this. situation. This is a horrific situation.

And there are women struggling with all types of issues related to postpartum issues. and they they require treatment, protection, and compassion. And I've spent four decades in hospitals with my wife, and I've seen what disease. injured, medicated, sleep deprived, deprived and and and traumatized brains can do. The brain's an organ.

It can become sick. And when the brain malfunctions, the consequences can be terrifying. We know these things. It's not about mental illness. And I'm not dismissing postpartum psychosis.

I'm not presuming to dis to decide the legal condition what's going on up there. But I'm asking a very different question about the public response. Ten days after Governor Healy signed that abortion law. Hundreds of people. many of them are women dressed in pink, are gathered outside the Massachusetts court house in support of Lindsay Clancy.

Her lawyer says that he's got three banker boxes filled with letters. rallying to her support. He's developed an enormous social media following. Admirers have reportedly described him as a feminist icon. The emotional energy surrounding this case is overwhelmingly directed towards Lindsey Clancy.

But three other human beings were involved. Cora, Dawson, Callan. Cora was five years old. Dawson was three. Callan was eight months old.

We we need to say their names. They are remarkably easy to lose in the story. Uriah was murdered by a king who was trying to cover up his sin. God did not forget His name. If you go back and look in the Gospel of Matthew in the genealogy of Jesus, Uriah's name is right there in it.

God didn't forget his name. And he's not forgetting these children's name. Nor should we. Three Individual Lives They depended entirely upon adults to protect them. The adult The cultural reflex These women are crying out for Lindsay.

There are people that are applauding Tyler Robinson for shooting Charlie Kirk, and they're making fun of Charlie Kirk being assassinated. We just saw that. Jeep. splashed all over the place last week. There are fans of Luigi Mangion, this guy that killed the head of the healthcare company, murdered him.

In cold blood. Do you ever get the feeling? The we have a culture that is continually crying out for Barabbas. Have you ever noticed that? In the nature of our sin we will always cry out for Barabbas.

And the cultural flex on this is to go to these people who have committed these atrocities. And we need to be compassionate. compassionate. We need to care for them. Why do we have?

Why is it that compassion for a profoundly ill woman requires that the children disappear? Surely, our moral vocabulary is large enough to hold more than one thing at a time here. We could say that it's real. But we can also say that these children deserve to have. Their names remembered And their lives mattered.

and they deserved protection. They cannot become scenery in this. Compassion without truth becomes sentimentality. And truth without compassion can sometimes become cruelty. Biblical mercy never requires us to lie about what happened.

And it never requires us to forget the victim. But I look at this thing and I go back to what that woman said. Oh, we'll never go that far. Look how far we've gone. Can you turn around and look and see Where that far used to be?

Can you even see that? Look at where we've come as a society. What are we doing about it as Christians? We have a network here. that we're allowed to come on and talk about the gospel.

But are we staying on our little fenced-in area here and not getting out? And we don't want to upset people. People say, well, don't judge. Why not? I mean if somebody is heading down the wrong way.

And they're heading towards a cliff. Do you just, I don't want to judge you. If you're putting a loaded gun to your hit, oh, I don't want to judge you. You know, they'll never go that far. And yet here we are.

Here we are. What do we do about it? I write about these things. I come on this program and I talk about these things. You know, I'm only one voice.

But there are a lot of voices listening today. What do you want to do about it? What's going on in your church about this? What are the conversations happening? Are we preparing ourselves?

to adequately defend the gospel. at a moment's notice to be able to go into the most horrific of circumstances. And point people to the Savior with clarity so that they can understand. Do we Do we recognize when people are struggling with various things? and are we prepared to speak to it?

That is consistent, and that is in line with what our Savior. Commanded us to do, preach the gospel. They make disciples, teach people. Teach them these things. Ask the questions like I asked that woman on the plane.

Don't be afraid to confront. You don't have to be combative. But look at the stakes. Look at the cost. We hold the truth in our heart because of the redemptive work of Christ.

We have a responsibility to share it, and that's Truth Talk Live.