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And, you know, tonight it's feeling that way because we're talking about the. Tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk and I imagine for many they can remember exactly, exactly what went on on September 11th. Um That usually we would be talking about today, Dr. Carson and I, in the studio, but Right now, the world's response to violence Hmm. You might know, is often violence, protests, riots, outrage, but scripture gives us another way, right?
In 2 Chronicles 7:14, it says, If my people are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land.
So here's the question. It's a live show. We need your calls. When tragedy sti strikes What does a truly Christian response look like in something like this situation with the tragedy? I mean, it's just absolute tragedy of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
It's an outrage in the streets, or is it prayer on our knees? as Stu was just talking about, is are we going to Pray I versus AI. Would love your thoughts, right, on the whole situation, like you know, what you where you were, what you're feeling. you know, the contribution maybe Charlie Kirk has made to your faith or to your Maybe you register to vote because of Charlie. 866-348-7884.
866-348-7884. And I would also mention that, you know, from my perspective, Which probably is a little unique. I know how connected the Truth Network is to Salem Broadcasting. And Charlie was by far and away their number one personality and was. by by far and away their number one podcast.
over there at Salem, which is you know Our owner, Stu Epperson's father's company, you know, that he founded and now Stu's on the board with. It's, it's. A crazy time. Right? And a lot of people are affected.
So, how about you? What are your thoughts? 866 Three four eight seven. 7-8-84-866-34 TRUTH. Uh and Doc No.
Kinda unprecedented, really, you know? We were m looking at this week. You always look at 9-11. I d I We a day to remember because we have said Emphatically, we will not forget. And this very morning, every name was read.
The President goes to the Pentagon. Speeches are given, prayers are offered. But yesterday afternoon Um Just those shocking uh reports that you get notifications now all of a sudden I get a notification on my phone that Charlie Kirk. has been shot. Wait a minute.
Where is where? How did he get shot? Why? What's going on here? And then you get a notification: hey, he's critical, but he's in stable condition.
Okay, well Okay. And then comes from the President of the United States, the announcement that he had died. And um I have my mixed emotions. I know the So many other people immediately there's the the heart you're heartbroken. But you're also, there's anguish.
And yes, anger. And then the question comes from us who are Christian leaders. How do we respond? When a Christian is killed. A martyr.
And that's how I look at Charlie. He was representing Christ. And, um,. How do we respond? Are we going to burn things down?
Are we going to riot? Are we going to curse other people out? Is there a biblical... View. That Charlie Kirk would want us to have because that's what he was espousing: a biblical worldview.
And Romans 12:21 says, Overcome evil by doing good. Good. And um Last night? all over this country. There were prayer meetings.
And my Facebook just filled up with pictures of students in Texas A and M, at Texas Tech, Liberty University, one university after another, because he had these chapters set up For turning point, like 3,500 chapters have been set up. Almost every college campus now has one. I was just at an event last Wednesday, Robbie, for them setting up chapters in high schools. And I got to meet the young lady that's heading that up for this region. She's from Liberty University I graduated from Liberty, her and her husband, and we just had a wonderful time talking about, okay, how do we engage young people and just loving what Charlie had done.
He engaged young people to get involved. Yeah. And here's your chance, right, to express yourself, to get involved. As I'm sure that all our audience would love to hear what's on your heart, you know, I had several phone calls today from dear, dear friends, and they couldn't stop crying. I mean, it literally broke their hearts.
Some stuff that had happened in Congress broke their hearts. But but other things are encouraging, maybe of the way certain people are responding, like what you're talking about on college campuses. But we would love to hear from you. 866 is a number to call in. It's pretty simple.
866-348-7884-866-34TRUTH. You know, how do you think the media is handling the subject? Do you think they're coming at it from the right angle? You know, or are they being biased in some way? Or do you think, you know, from my perspective, I haven't seen them handle anything like this, you know, quite of this they seem to be quite Comprehensive, and it certainly was first up.
Well, as you know, yesterday, right after it happened, there was a commentary on a network that said some things that were just out of bounds. And immediately, the president from that company came on and apologized. And that gentleman's been fired. I think that's caused all the rest of them to realize: you know what? This is a real human being, and this has got to stop.
We have got to stop talking so mean about a person's position. You can say we're going to go against the position. We can disagree. My mother-in-law always said, if we agree on everything, then one of us is not necessary. That's what's her saying that to her husband.
So we can disagree. But we can disagree agreeably, but the attack of because you hold that position, it means you are something that's just vile. I study history. I've always loved history. I studied World War II a lot for some reason.
Church Hill. And to know that someone is being called a Nazi. That to me They don't understand how bad they were. of how they just had people executed one after another. They didn't human there was no humanity for them.
They just had people execut and when you call someone that, Yeah, it wasn't one after another. It was en masse. Yes. Like, you know, several thousand in one big grave. And, you know, it was unthinkable.
And and so all of a sudden now people in America who hold a different view well, let's just call them a Nazi.
Well, that raises a fear that, well, if this is the next Hitler, I should get rid of them. And here Charlie Kirk is out there in the open. He went to the market square. He went where he could dialogue and he said, prove me wrong. Ask any question you want.
I'd never seen anyone like him. I mean, I remember years ago when I'm, who is this guy? And I've been hearing that today from other news commentators who, when they first met him, like, who is this guy? And Rush Limbaugh, they went and pulled a tape on him of when he first met him, like, this guy is different. Wow.
Well, we got Tyler is in Utah, very close to where it all happens.
So, Tyler, you're on Truth Talk Live. Good afternoon. Hey, Skylar, but that's okay. Tyler's fine, too. Skylar, I appreciate it.
So Yeah, it's got to be real close to home for you. Yeah, you know what's weird? A lot of people look at Utah and they look at the Mormons and they see this. Happy little conservative. Skylar, I hate to jump in.
That music means that we're about to be at a break, and I want to cut you off. Can you hang on through the break for us? No problem. Thank you, Scott. We're excited to hear what he has to say.
And how about you? 866-348-7884. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. We are talking about the assassination, the sad assassination of Charlie Kirk.
and some of our responses to that. And we're excited that we have Skylar calling in from Utah. Actually Evangeline, Ohio as well. We'll get to her in a second. But so Schuyler, yeah, it's really, really close to home to you guys.
Yeah, you know, it's it's horrible to see something happen where you live. But the first thing that that killed me was just I'm thirty. Uh, Charlie's my age. Oh, yeah. And I have two young kids.
And I really relate it as a father. And when I became a Christian in 2016. I was so politically motivated to walk into a church. That's why I did. And then seeing a guy like Charlie Kirk, who did have a a political voice, but but was was championing the gospel uh really Um helped me Learn that focus.
Um Of of God first and all the politics and the world second, you know? And that awesome that, um God brings all sorts of people like that in our lives for the season. Yes. For the time. Um that we get a chance to grow under their uh time and it's it's It's amazing how those names still stick out in my mind of men that Um You know, just for whatever short period of time, God allowed him in my life and made a big impact.
And, scholar, I I really commend you. That's exciting because I know so many young men, they get caught up in that. Um the political fight because, you know, we're kind of born warriors. You know, God's a warrior, and so we kind of got that in us where we want to battle to fight. Fighting for the gospel is.
It's quite a struggle. And you do it with joy. He was being called the happy warrior. Charlie was just different. He was a happy warrior.
He didn't, he wasn't trying to. just condemn somebody. But he did want to challenge them to think. Why do you hold the position you hold? What is it that causes you to really believe what you believe and let them work through it?
And. He he he sharpened all of us to be better at how to Share the gospel with compassion, I think. Yeah, it's a big compassion logic and honestly, before you take the next call. One of the things that went through my head was that Beautiful CS Lewis quote. that he knows when he he dies that hell's gonna rejoice 'cause he's no longer in the fight and that's Yeah.
We we lost a warrior like that. That's a good word, Schuyler. Really is. Really is. Well said, my friend.
God bless you. Thank you for your call. It means the world to us. It really does. God bless.
Have an amazing day. What's that to it? We got Angela. is in Ohio. And Angela, you're on True Talk Live.
Hi. I am very humbled to be uh a part of the discussion today. And and even more so to hear. Um what others are have have been Speaking about this. uh horrible event and I was um substituting today in the high school.
I had the privilege to be there today. And hear some of the reactions from the kids. And I have a 14-year-old son as well. Who a few days before this happened had shared with me, I'd never really heard of him or listened to him, but my son. Right.
Some of what he was sharing recently or what he came across with Char Charlie Kirk. that Charlie Kirk had made a comment about You know, I can't dress up as a a Latino and identify as a Latino just 'cause I want to. And that really, you know. resonated with my son and myself that, you know, we are Born who we are, and we don't get to just kind of pick and choose, and that's part of that. condition of our surrender to our Creator, how He created us.
that I know a lot of people nowadays don't seem to want to have to submit to, but um it got brought up in the class where I was co-teaching with another substitute teacher about um that topic about what happened Uh, with um Mr. Kirk, and the kids were kind of, you know. Um fearing that they had heard and they listened to him. um, a lot. They were sharing that.
But then when I brought up the point About what my son had shared with me, because I wasn't really knowledgeable of his. of his platform. And when I brought that up, I actually got these looks that I knew like I had said something wrong. in their eyes. And I so I asked him, was something wrong that I said that I shared about what he had said or that I had heard he had said?
And he said, yes, you guys aren't supposed to talk about that stuff in school. And it just really struck me. It was the last period of the day. And I've just been ruminating over it. And that was why I called in.
And I was just like, you know, God, how. If we can't make bridges and have open discussion, and children cannot be taught in classrooms to critically think about these things or speak about these things if it's not okay. to talk about That's part of the the problem. And and In my heart, this Think of that and I wanted to share that. Yeah, you couldn't be more right in that Satan loves to keep things in the dark.
And when you begin to bring him out into the light. Um You know, then then those who Unfortunately, have that bent, whatever you want to say, that Satan is in their ear. He immediately says, That's out of line. You can't talk about that. But.
Oh my goodness. You couldn't be more right. Angela that You know, this is. If you can't talk about it with the young people, I mean, that are impressionable, what in the world? You know, it's like, what?
So I love that you're a teacher, Angela, and I love your heart and your discernment in the situation. Doc, you're about to jump into it.
Well, it's so interesting, again, how Charlie Kirk figured out. How do we engage young people, not just college students? And I've heard this from so many that are 13 and 14. He understood social media of TikTok and Instagram. Facebook.
Hat. Podcast. How do you get the message out? We're not getting them into church to hear the message. We're not getting them to a youth group to hear the message.
We're not getting it taught in school. But he went with a different avenue. And even last night, I'm hearing from a teenager I did not know Had been listening to him, and I'm hearing all these viewpoints that are biblical. A world view points that I didn't know she held. But she held them because she had been listening to Charlie Kirk's podcast.
And he was causing her to think through opposite of what she was hearing. from her classmates and in school, where that's kept kind of it seems to be, as you said, Angela, in the dark. You're not supposed to talk about it. And it needs to be talked about. What How do you make your decisions?
Is it a biblical worldview that guides your decision, or is that an earthly worldview? I'll do what's right in my own sight. That's the Charlie Kirk. Uh legacy. He was getting young people to think.
What What kind of decision will I be making? That's beautiful, Angela. What a call. I am so grateful for that insight, and especially. Um You know, your son.
How cool is that? Right? Yes. That he inspired the whole thing. You know, that's really encouraging to me.
I'm sure it is for many people, Angela. Yeah, I do. I pray that the kids keep talking, and despite what we need to give them permission. That's what it is. is we need to give them permission to talk.
Because Right now, we're telling them that just like that boy told me. We're not allowed. We've not been given permission. to talk about these things.
So I just encourage however, God you know, is greater, definitely. And and he will. He will make a way. Yeah, and I I think that It makes another point, Angelo, I think is important, that Doc brought up to me last night. that in a way This event highlights his ministry, and I think so many more people are becoming aware of what was involved in that and where the good stuff was going as a result of the tragedy.
And so. as people are praying, you know, God's He he is Showing us the way. Thank you again, Angela.
So grateful for your call. And we would love yours. 866-348-7884. 866-348-7884. We'll be right back.
Truth to apply. Yeah. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Today is September 11th and You know, often a day of remembrance today is a bit different in that we're remembering Charlie Kirk and the tragedy of yesterday and I love what people's insight.
We've had some of the most amazing calls, and the good news is we got. Three more lined up for you, so we're we're excited. We got Mike and Anna, and another Mike. And so we're going to start off with Mike's wick is calling in. Often a host of Truth Talk Live, but I know this subject's near and dear to your heart, right, Mike?
It sure is, buddy, and I appreciate you taking my call. It was a very sad day. uh for America and and you know I I think a lot of people's true colors came out. My wife actually told me this morning, she said that There was a gentleman from MSNBC. Uh who actually got fired today.
And I guess I'd like to commend MSNBC for firing the guy because he basically said that Charlie Kirk got what he deserved. And so, but you know, it's so sad that people are actually saying. Celebrating a patriot, a Christian, a man who was willing to stand up for what he believed in. They were celebrating his death, and I think it's absolutely awful. Um So that was the, I guess you could say that was the first part.
Um but the second part was this. is that when I woke up this morning, I was spending some time in the word Robbie. And I was spending some time with the Lord, and I felt That God, I felt a leaning from the Holy Spirit to say that, yes, this was tragic, and I feel so bad for his family. But I also feel like this is gonna be a wake-up call for Christians in the United States. And I feel like this is something that could be a rallying cry where more Christians.
will actually want to stand up for what they believe in. I was over at the gym earlier today and I was listening to a song and the song was this. You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. And so I'm so proud that Charlie Kirk was willing to stand up for what he believed in. And I hope that it brings a lot of other Christians the guts to.
Say, hey, you know what? I'm willing to stand up for what we believe, for what I believe in, even if it costs me everything. Because Jesus put it like this: He says, Greater love hath no man than this, then He laid down His life for. His friends, and by Charlie Kirk. willing to stand up for What he believed in.
He was shot and killed, and he said, I don't care what anybody else says. I'm not bad. Backing down. I'm not backing down. And, you know, I believe that this is, people have already been talking about revival, but.
I believe that this is going to even push us. Closer to a revival as well. And I believe, I just see stuff online, Robbie. And Dr. Carson, I see people say, I just saw a guy this morning say, This makes me want to stand up for Christ.
I need to surrender my life to Christ. And uh so You know, the Bible says that thing. You know, yeah, I mean, it it says in Romans 8, 28, it says that we know that all things work together for good. To those who love God, and for them who are called according to his purpose.
So I'm gonna spend some time in prayer. I'm praying for his family, I'm praying for our country, and I'm also praying for that this will unite Christians and conservatives. God bless you. Thank you, Michael. A turning point.
Yeah, they're in the country. God bless. Well, we got Anna is in Lynchburg, Virginia. Anna, you're on Truth Talk Live. Good afternoon.
Hey, good afternoon. It's it's My name's actually Anne, but I never it's okay, I don't care. Um I have not been before, but I am a teacher. And just in response, I'm driving. from school listening to the substitute teacher speak up.
And I just Wanted to call in. Like some truth. It is not against the law for her to say that. And I think Satan is. a liar and a deceiver and Well tell you what you can and can't And you might.
Believe them. But she was within her rights to bring up a topic as. educators we should be challenging people to think. young people to share their opinions, just like Charlie Kirk did. but do it with diplomacy and respect.
Right.
And so I don't think she was incorrect at all. I think she was right on point. And the child that Um thought it was out of line was actually not telling the truth and he's misinformed. But Um Absolutely. I don't shy away from those opportunities.
And when I'm in the classroom, if a student asks a question, I create it as an opportunity, student led, but offered Does anyone want to pray about that? I mean, there is no reason why we can't offer that platform to students and If I get fired or The school board doesn't like it. I trust the Lord will take care of me and my family's needs because. like like the previous caller was saying. We need to be bold and courageous and not be Afraid of man's laws, we answer to a higher Um Yeah.
Oh, absolutely. And I I create I I applaud your you know, to call in and share that and and and clear it up. I I don't know that Yeah. teacher was saying it was illegal. She felt like that it wasn't okay to talk about it in the Culture's eyes is kind of like the scary part of, but I'm so glad you cleared it up because absolutely.
It's important that we know that. Right as the adult in the classroom to bring up a relevant current topic and Um I think the students sometimes get uncomfortable and they may be misinformed themselves. and say, Oh, we're not allowed to talk about that, but you are allowed to talk about it. It's just how you go about it. It has to be framed in a respectful dialogue and debate kind of way.
Oh yeah, we were talking about that during the break, and That and that, um You know, Satan's one of his biggest You know, you can't talk about that. That's things in the dark. Keep it canceled. Like, that's off limits. You can't go there.
Mm-hmm. Where honestly You know, any thinking person would go, you know, there's something wrong when people start identifying as cats and other animals and stuff like that. It is, it's just.
Something doesn't seem to add up there. And those kind of discussions. Um Just think of all the parents and and I and I applaud you in your prayer. comment as well.
Well, just yesterday I had a a student fall and twist your ankle and maybe broken and I took her to the nurse and she in tears and I said, can I pray for you? And she said, yes, please. And I'm not going to shy away from those opportunities. And if it upsets And that's fantastic because they should wonder: why would anybody not want to be prayed for? Why is that offensive?
Exactly right. And the student can say no. You know, it's an option. It's like, would you like fries with that Coke? You know, it's just I'm putting it out there.
It can be denied, but people are going to know who I am, and if they have questions, where my classroom is. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing and I can't tell you how many times I've had people that actually, because as you said, I've asked people lots of times, and can I pray for you? And they say no. They say it usually with a fairly aggressive tone. No.
Yeah. And I'm like you, I'd say fine. But fascinatingly, those are interestingly sometimes the very people that come back and say, you know, Robbie. I have this situation, and I know I was short with you. Mm-hmm.
And it but as you say, you know, all you can do is just Trust God and do what He says, and He'll deal with the results, Doc? And because one of the big things on can I pray With you, I can get an answer. No. But they can't stop me from praying. for them.
And um, you know, I I I had a Before Christ I was antagonistic toward Christians. And you were from Lynchburg like Anna. Like Ann. Like Ann. Yeah, right here by Liberty University.
They had a vigil. last night on campus, the students are very Just he was gonna come speak at convocation and uh Lot of lot of hands. tears and prayers last night. Yep, and we our hearts are broken for Erica. and his two children.
My word. But God is a sustaining God, and they're going to have a testimony in years to come of how God brought them through this. And He's going to raise up, I believe, a hundred thousand Charlie Kirks because He started something that said Find out what you really believe. And that was one of the things from Liberty, that Dr. Falwell, don't just know what you believe, but know why you believe it.
To be able to share it.
Well, thank you so much for your call, Anna. God bless you. And your work as a teacher? Yes. Thank you for being a teacher.
And so you're listening out there and you're thinking, wow, how do I call?
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We got Mike is in Dayton. Ohio, Mike. Welcome to Truth Talk Live. Well, thanks for taking my call and um Yeah, um I have a lot of young people around me. Um I have three kids that I you know, I call 'em kids 'cause they're in their thirties.
Um, but, anyways, uh, they they were all grieving this morning, and um it was wonderful for me to see that they they was listening to Charlie Kirk. Um And uh I I just listened to them. I really didn't give them anything. I said, God's coming back soon. Your life is like a vapor.
you need to get right with God. did say that to them. My son called me and said, Dad, did you hear the news? He's in this 30. Yeah.
And I said, Yeah, I did. It's so tragic. Um I had a I had a daughter as well. Um Call me. And then she she she didn't call me for that, but then she said.
Do you know what happened? that? I says, Yeah, Charlie Kirk died in I said, Is that why you called? He said, No, I love you, Dad. And uh Um It it's just awesome that, um that he t he uh I mean, a lot of young people, he was viral.
Online. And um He m he touched a lot of lies and he answered a lot of questions about God and That that was wonderful, that and how he answered them with love and grace. Um he never answered any of the questions online. And all those videos wi was It w he he was a man's man. For God, that's for sure.
What a great statement right there. in several conversations today. We lost a man. There's so many people I'm Again, you begin to learn that he had influenced them. He was a man's man at thirty one who said, My wife Is my priority.
My children are my priority. He just said that Monday night on Laura Ingram that above his career is his family. There's nothing more important than family. But that really there was one more thing more important than family, and that was his faith. And that you could be a man.
and believe in God and go to church and serve God. What a man he was to look up to.
Well, thank you for your call so much, Mike. And we would love to hear from you, 866-2666. 3487-884-866. 3487884. Again, reflecting on Charlie Kirk, his ministry, his life will be ripe.
You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to True Talk Live. Yeah. September 11th, 2025. Uh you know, kind of in that remember.
Right.
phenomenal biblical word. Remember. Remember to remember that Jesus said it. That night, do this in remembrance of me. Many churches have that on their communion tables that sit up front.
And we remember 9-11, many of us. And again, remembering Um You know, some of the amazing things I'm hearing about Charlie Kirk. I mean, how cool is it? that thirteen fourteen year olds We're we're getting truth. Through a new medium called Social Media.
Or through his podcast. He had the. I mean, get this, the number one podcast in the world.
Okay, so the number one podcast in the world. That's a gigantic platform right now.
Well, the number I've heard is. 85 million. People that he had somehow connected with through some of the things that he was doing. And maybe it was the number one pot conservative podcast in the world. It may have been because we were saying that he rivaled Rush Limbaugh and was doing that in his radio show as well.
But either way, here's this unbelievable platform that God gave him for the season that he gave it for. You know, in that, like you say, you know, I love that God will be raising up. people that that that to To raise that flag and continue to do that because he was such a young man. I mean, 31 years of age. Right.
And so, what are you thinking? I would love to hear your thoughts. Really? 866-348-7884 is a number to call in and share. You know, how.
The things you've heard over the last 48 hours, the things that you're thinking, we're very interested. That's what Truth Talk Live is about. We have the show to bring current events there, which You know, it's kind of current in that it is September 11th. It has that feel to it. 866-348-7.
Sadhguru I love something you told me. As we're getting ready to do this show, That that really is pretty poignant is that that His birthday is coming up. Yeah. And there's a really relevant question along those lines.
Well, you know, I do date the word. I've got verses for people's birthday. And I just got to thinking this morning. I wonder when Charlie Kirk's birthday is. And it's October the 14th.
And I looked at that, and I really don't have a verse. For what I'm getting ready to give right now, there's a couple of really great verses for him, like John 10:14, he's the shepherd, he's the door. But Charlie Kirk, was Uh A political activist. He wanted people to get involved. And one of the ways you get involved is you register to vote.
You can't vote if you're not registered. At least you're not supposed to.
So he was after voter registration. And part of the event I was with last Wednesday night here in North Carolina was talking about. Helping young people to get registered. And I was a head of school, and when a student would turn 18, I wanted to, hey, Guess what you get to do today? You get to register to vote.
So we were talking about: does Turning Point have an event, kind of a. big event to say Today's the day. Get registered. I think October the 14th. One of the great birthday gifts we could give Charlie Kirk.
is that if we're not registered to vote, we register to vote. Just a thought. It's amazing when maybe a million people get registered on Charlie Kerr's birthday.
So we got Don is in North Carolina. Don, you're on Truth Talk Live. Don, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah.
I am doing great. What have you what have you got for us? Hello? Yeah, you're kind of breaking up, but Can you hear me now? He's in, he's out.
All right.
Well, let's try to get a little bit more. Don will call back and We will see what we can do. Yeah, please, Don, call us back at 866-348-7884. Hopefully, you'll be in a better zone.
So yeah. There are two things you actually mentioned. I actually like the first one better than the register to vote. Although I like the register to vote one. But the first thing you said you could give.
Charlie Kirk for your birthday. The other thing he really, really, really wanted was... And and uh He wanted people to get saved. He understood. I heard someone give a comparison yesterday as this was played out.
Charlie Kirk was Billy Graham and Rush Limbaugh. He was light. And he was salt. And the thing that he would want more than you registered to vote is that you would say yes to Jesus. There you go.
We do have Don back.
So, Don, can you hear me now? Yes, sir. Yes, I can hear you. Great. Praise the Lord.
I would just my pastor sent out a little text to his congregation yesterday and Dr. Bo Wagner, my pastor, and he had Sent out a little uh text to everybody yesterday and Yeah. Yeah. And I was just thinking about what he had written. And in what he had written, he said, you know.
This is a time to grieve, and we need to grieve. Charlie Kirk, he was a good man, and he's with the Lord, and we know that. But he said, I want you to think about one thing. You know, when Paul stood there and head held the coats of those men that that stoned Stephen to death, He said, Later on, Paul became one of the greatest evangelists that ever lived. He said, God might begin to rise up another Paul to identify.
I just want you to think about that. And say, you know, we lost a good man, but maybe out of this tragedy. Might be something Like a fall that arises on the sink to straight. That's such a beautiful thought, Paul. What a wonderful pastor it sounds like you have.
And it, you know, that is a He writes a lot of books, and he's a good man. He's a good God man. That's beautiful. Absolutely. Don, thank you for this call.
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. If you have a chance, look up Cornerstone Baptist Mo Church, Mooresboro. Our pastor's got commentaries and books and He's a godly man.
He he he he's a self-made man. started the church twenty five, twenty seven years ago. It's grown and That's beautiful. God's really blessed and Yeah, and he's got quite a disciple right here that called in with that thought. God bless you, Don.
You have a great week. Bye-bye.
So, yeah, there you go. You know, I compared yesterday immediately. I think Trolley Kirk was Stephen. Stephen was in Acts 7. He's out there in the marketplace, and he's having dialogue with Jews.
Who is Jesus? And, you know, when it comes to asking these questions, Jesus himself said, Who do men say that I am? He wanted us to debate: is he really who he said he is? And here's Stephen out there, and he's pointing all these Jews, Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecies, he's the Messiah. And they got so angry.
They stoned him. They put him to death. And how do you react to that the day after? How do you react to that? That one of your great leaders, Stephen, has been put to death and.
What Don just said, what his pastor said, Saul. was there consenting. And there's today people who are consenting. They're they're glad it breaks their heart to even think this, but they're glad that Charlie Kirk was killed.
Well, they may be the very Saul that needs that will get saved and become a Paul And in years from now, they're going to be preaching the gospel. Who knows how God's going to use it use this?
So we've got a couple minutes. If you've got a thought, we would love to hear from you. Feel free, call us, 866-348-7884-866-348. You know, honestly, as I look at the situation, what I've seen in the media, which honestly haven't had a lot of time to look at it. Um but I I It doesn't seem, it has the opposite effect of the polarizing of so many tragedies.
You know, a lot of the tragedies cause More division, more riots, whatever. But most of the people I've seen it it it had a better It's had a better Um you know, outrage at what clearly is just wrong. I I I think early on when some things were being said. And all of a sudden people are realizing How they are responding and what they're saying is becoming immediately shown, and they're looking at themselves going, I don't want to be known. for saying these bad things about a good man that just got assassinated with a wife and two children.
Well, you know what? This People wouldn't know this if unless I tell them that, you know, you called me On Monday, wanted to do a show on bad behavior in a baseball game. Yes. Because You know, this woman wasn't aware that that that sh that the cameras were on her and everybody's looking. Everyone at that stadium was lucky.
And she had taken the baseball out of little boys' gloves, you know, through her father, whatever the story is. But anyway, her behavior became. glaringly obvious. that everyone is looking. Yeah.
And and You know, that in itself is sort of a lesson, isn't it? As we see people begin to evaluate: gee, I feel this way, I shouldn't feel this way. You know, I I I think um social media has caused us to think we can hide behind What we say. And we can't. Um You're still, the old statement from the Bible is: be sure your sins will find you.
And um We think we can be vile and mean toward other people, and nobody will ever know. It's not true. And we need to behave better. The beautiful thing that Charlotte Kirk's life apparently stands for is if you're beautiful to people, even though they're completely on the other side, that too speaks volumes. It's called grace, right?
Love. Your Enemies. All right.
Thank you so much, everyone, for listening. You know, tomorrow's coming up. We got Doc. Tomorrow again, date the word. Thanks for listening.
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