What Did You Witness When The Stone Was Rolled Away

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You know, it couldn't be more exciting as we think about that. And Dr. Date the Word would tell you if he were here today that, you know, wow, we're supposed to be in the 14th chapter of John as we're counting down 20 chapters in John before the Easter Sunday. And so you may know, John 14, my daughter had to memorize that one. It was the comfort chapter, right, when she was doing Bible drills and stuff like that. And so, you know, let your heart not be troubled.

You know, I go to prepare a place. It's pretty good stuff, John 14. And anyway, today, since it is Holy Week, I have a question, and this is a live show, and so I'm hoping that you will call in and share.

This is a gigantic question. It really may be one of the biggest I can think of, but the question is, what did you witness? What did you witness when the stone was rolled away in your own life? In other words, there was a moment that that stone got rolled away, and at that time, you saw for yourself, for real, that God was alive. Like, what?

Yeah, yeah. Something happening that convicted you that all of a sudden you realized, oh my goodness, God is alive. And I know there's a story like that for you.

There's a story like that from my guest right this minute. I have Mike Zwick with us. He's the host and has been for years of If Not For God with Mike Zwick, which we're glad to say is coming back on the network. On May the 3rd, Saturday, May the 3rd, I'm going to be on here at noon, 12 o'clock noon, so Saturdays or at noon, I'm going to be looking forward to it, but I tell you what, Robbie, it's really good to be back here with you.

Oh, it's so fun, and we've, you know, he was on the podcast all along, and his podcast is so popular, but it's great to have him back on the broadcast, coming at, again, 12 noon on Saturday, May the 3rd. But today the question again is, you witnessed that stone roll away in your own life, okay? And when you picture this scene, think of the way that Matthew depicted it, that there were two Marys, right? There was Mary Magdalene. There's all sorts of stories about her in the Bible, and I think it's pretty clear who she was, but then there was the other Mary, and that's clouded in great mystery.

However, if you do a great deal of study, I think you will come to the same conclusion that I did, which is that's actually Jesus' aunt. It was Mary's sister-in-law, so to speak, because she was married to Mary's brother, Cleopas, I think is how you pronounce that. Nonetheless, it was the other Mary, and so there they are, and what a cool day for them that Sunday morning. They went to Mary's. Now, I want you to picture with me for a minute that the name Mary in Hebrew is Miriam, and these people were Hebrew, so we can just go with the idea that these were two Miriams that were headed to the tomb that day. What about you? When you got to see that stone roll away, what did that look like in your life?

866-348-7884. Now, you might remember that there was another Deliverer, another Savior, so to speak. His name was Moses, and not unlike the Miriam, two Miriams that are involved in this particular equation. There's actually one Miriam, and she was following this Deliverer. She thought he was dead because her mother put him in a tomb, so to speak, in this ark, and put him in the Nile. And so Miriam, not unlike our Miriams that are today at the tomb as we're talking about it, she is witnessing something that's unbelievable, right? That she thinks her brother, like, man, he's gone.

Like, oh, the Nile's going to take her into the ocean or whatever in the world. However, she sees that ark open up, and she sees the Deliverer, and it's no accident that it's a Miriam at all, do you think, that she sees what was dark, and then all of a sudden she sees the Deliverer saved? Now, if you go back to Eve in the garden, right, and she was the first person to see death, if you've ever thought about it, there was just a moment there where she had seen death and she had not gotten her husband to go along with the deal.

But at this point, she had seen the first person to see darkness, but it was actually a woman. These two women, actually, they got to see life, and the very first thing they did when they saw Jesus, because they first got to see the stone roll away by the angel, they got to talk to the angel, pretty big day, and then they take off. They've got the gospel, they've got good news, Jesus has risen again. They haven't seen him yet, but they got good news, and they're sharing it, they're ready to go share it with him, and they're taking off running, and all of a sudden, Jesus is on the scene. And if you look closely, Matthew 28, you'll see, wow, they hit the deck.

Like, what? They see, oh, there is a God, he is alive, and he's standing right here, and they fall down and grab his feet and worship him. And the reason I say that is because in my own life, I know, and I bet you got a story, and we'd love for you to call in and tell it, 866-348-7884, that I was reading the book of Job. I knew kind of there was a God, and I kind of believed in him, I prayed to him a lot, but I had never really encountered what I knew was a living God. But that day, when all of a sudden, Job turned, I mean, when God turned to Job and said, well, Job, you know, since you got all this figured out, why don't you make the snow come down, or why don't you set the tide for me, and all that. And at that moment, all of a sudden, the stone got rolled away in my life. Tears flowed like crazy, and all of a sudden, I realized, oh my goodness, I was totally convicted, there is a God, and I'm not him, and oh my goodness, here he is, he's alive. The stone has been rolled away, and I don't know about you, I hope you had that kind of experience, where all of a sudden, you encountered the living God. What did you see? What did you witness? 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884, how about you, Mike?

Well, I tell you what, I remember I was in college, and before I became a Christian, so BC, and when I was in college, I would have times where I would just sit and think, and I would and I would analyze, and I would say, what is the purpose of my life? When I was 14 years old, I took a whole bottle of Ritalin, and I tried to kill myself. Wow. We're going to leave it at the Ritalin. When we come back, we're going to find out what happened in this riddle. We got Jeff is calling in, I can hardly wait to hear from him, but how about you? Is God putting it on you to share this story of what did you see when the stone got rolled away? 866-348-7884, 866-344, truth. So much more with Mike Zwick and you coming up. Stay tuned. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Today's question, what did you witness when the stone was rolled away in your own life, that moment when you witnessed God was alive?

We'd love to hear your story. 866 is the number to call in. 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. We got Jeff is in Michigan. Jeff, you're on Truth Talk Live. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Mike. Thanks for taking my call.

You're welcome. And so what are you thinking? Well, I'm a recovering alcoholic I was a practicing alcoholic for 30 years and I've been sober now for five years. In my darkest moments, the Lord actually allowed my 15 year old daughter at the time to confront me and tell me how she felt and gave me a moment of clarity where I actually had empathy because I had pretty much drunken all my feelings and emotions away for so long. And at that moment, I really had a choice to make.

I was very down. It was either take my own life or turn to God and ask for help. I was never a spiritual person. I always believed in a higher power, but I didn't really understand it. And I was raised in a church for a while while I was young.

And as I got older, I was learning more about the world. And I was trying to form my own opinions about God. Instead of reaching for a gun or pills or whatever else to get the job done, I turned to God, I dropped to my knees and I called out to something I didn't understand and asked for help. And at that moment, I had a spiritual experience. And it became clear that he was directing me into a 12 step program that I've been around for a while. Like I said, I never had the spiritual aspect of the program.

And I was in a 12 step program. And this time, I went in and really tried to make that connection with God. I can feel the Holy Spirit moving in my life. And he has eliminated the obsession to drink from my life. I have regained relationships with my children. I have made new relationships with people I never thought would be in my life, people that are a family I never had, brothers and sisters.

And I know God's there walking me through and strengthen me to get through this life every day. That is so awesome, Jeff, it really is. So I'm very curious, what exactly did your 15 year old say to you?

Well, she honestly told me at that moment, she was tired of me neglecting and being so selfish, and she didn't care if I lived or died. Oh, wow. Wow. That definitely hit home. And it was at the moment that I really needed it.

And God's been working in my life ever since. So how about your daughter now? We actually have a very open and honest relationship. She tells me things that I never would have expected her to tell me. She is very comfortable because she knows what I've been through. She knows the things I've done. I try to share my experiences with her so that she doesn't make the same mistakes.

And it's just building every day. That is so awesome. Do you feel like she has a relationship with God as well? I do. I do.

In fact, she did join a Bible study in school and she asked me for a Bible. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Yeah. She sees my relationship with God and I think she wants to emulate that. And it's just it's been an awesome experience. You know, I can't say enough about how real God is and how he's worked in my life today. What a testimony, Jeff. That is so powerful.

I can't tell you how privileged we all are that you called in and shared that. I know there's lots of people out there that need that kind of encouragement and certainly lots of people out there that share a similar experience. So God bless you, my friend. Keep up the great work up there. Where in Michigan do you live?

I actually live in Blissfield, Michigan, right outside of Toledo, Ohio. Awesome. Well, we're so grateful that you listen to the Truth Network, my friend. You keep up the good work, OK? Thanks, Mike. Have a great day. You too. God bless.

God bless. Bye bye. So, Mike. I think he thought it was you. That's OK, because I have never been I've never even I don't know that I've ever admitted this on the air, but I don't like to give out my name much.

It's just not I don't I don't like the idea. So they call me the Christian car guy. They call my name is Robbie. But and so, you know, a lot of people know I'm Robbie. But you don't hear me open up the show with this is Robbie Dilmore. This isn't anything I ever do.

And I never have been all that comfortable with that. But anyway, so, Mike, when we left our hero, Mike, he was taking Ritalin like, man. Oh, and yeah, go ahead. OK, well, I should say before you get into the Ritalin and all, you're not doing any Robbie's riddles here. This is just plain Ritalin. But anyway, if you got a story like man, when did God roll away the stone in your life? He became alive, real to you. Eight, six, six, three, four, eight, seven, eight, eight, four, eight, six, six, three, four, eight, seven, eight, eight, four.

So, Mike. Ritalin, Ritalin, yeah, I, I was so depressed, I was 14 years old and I was diagnosed with depression. I was taking pills for that. I took Wellbutrin. I took I took all sorts of pills, but I was on Ritalin. And when I was on when I was taking the Ritalin, I finally said I can't take anymore. I was just depressed.

I don't want to live. And I took I took 18 pills one night and it was a double strength pills. And I just woke up the next morning and I was live. I was OK.

I didn't call the hospital, didn't go anywhere. I just lived. And I didn't really realize how much of a miracle it was, Robbie, until probably a few months or a year later. My dad said he saw something on television. There was a kid who was about my age who had taken 12 Ritalin pills and died. And I had taken the equivalent of 36 Ritalin pills.

So three times what this kid took. But I realized that it was the grace of God in my life and that he was he was working in my life. And so later on in my life, I got saved. I had a girl in college who kept bugging me about Jesus. And one day I finally said, OK, I'll do it. I'll just leave me alone.

You know, that's that's how it started. But then I kind of looked into it and I started to go to a church with Pinedale Christian Church right here in Winston-Salem. But when I was there one Sunday, the preacher said this. He said, the devil will not tell you not to give your life to Jesus.

He'll tell you just not to do it right now. He said, but the Bible says that today is the day of salvation. And I ran to the front and I was sobbing and I got baptized. And so that was the emotional moment where I really I gave before it was a mental thing where I said, OK, I'll give my life to Jesus or I'll. But after that, it was it was a heart issue. And so the Lord had then he both had my heart and he had my mind as well. And you got to see that, wow, God is alive. And there was a conviction there.

I want to talk about that more, but I would love to hear your story. We've got to go to some different stations. I mean, other stations, we're going to lose some of them here in Winston-Salem. But you can come back and listen to the podcast at TruthNetwork.com if you want to hear the rest of the show and the rest of you. We got a whole lot more coming and we just got another caller.

866-348-7884. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. Oh, we're having fun and holy week here. When or what did you witness? What did you see when the stone was rolled away? Like that moment when you witnessed that God was really alive. Like it and I mean, for real, like, oh, my goodness, there is a God and I'm not him.

Like, follow your knees like this. This is this is a serious situation right here. And we're going to get to that moment with Mike here in a minute. But first we got Kim is calling from North Carolina. But we want your calls at 866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. Kim, you're on Truth Talk Live.

How are you? Thanks for having me. Michael is a friend of mine. And so I I'm tuned in to hear him tell a story.

And you know what? For me, when I hear other brothers and sisters sharing their their real truth, and when their eyes when they have ears to hear and eyes to see, and they're willing to be raw, that is yet another aha moment. We're not called to be perfect.

We're called to be holy. And you all are letting the by sharing Michael sharing his story, you're allowing the glory of God to be shown through the good works that is working through you. And I just was so encouraged by Michael's story. I just wanted to give a shout out and say thank you for being so authentic. Thanks for being so real. Michael is I sure is completely right. But you're right. It's so refreshing because, you know, so many of us, you know, it's where we're weak, that he's made strong, right?

It's through, you know, you know, our brokenness that the light kind of shines through. It is and I heard this. Go ahead, Kim.

My word this year was kintsuji. I don't know if you know what that is. It's a Japanese term.

I've never heard it before. But it's where the Japanese will talk about it. But it's where the Japanese will take the broken pottery and they would put gold in it and it makes it more valuable.

You wouldn't think a cracked pot would be that would be worth it. But because they put the gold and the Lord showed me, Kim, you don't have to be embarrassed of your cracked places. It's actually there that if you allow me, I'll pour my glory through you.

And that's where the real value comes from. And then all of a sudden, I wasn't so baited by the enemy that it was something I had to hide or bury or run from, you know, my imperfections or my lacking or especially my shortcomings. You know, it was no, it was an opportunity for me to let the glory of the Lord show through those cracked places. And then really, that's what others related to. And that's where God's goodness could be shared. And then all of a sudden, I was crushing the enemy's head.

Yes, there you go. So have you got one of those moments you can share with us? Yeah, but it's, um, for me, it was in the middle of a horrific lawsuit. My husband was in the middle of a lawsuit, and they dragged me into it because my husband is a businessman is just a contract dispute, and he wasn't backing down.

So they went for the Achilles heel by bringing in his girl. And the attorney stacked up against me. And, and even the judge, it was complete, unethical. And I was mad because I had didn't have counsel because I really didn't know anything. So put me on the stand.

I don't know anything. And the, the everything was twisted. And my words were actually used against me. And I thought, Oh, that's okay. Because in our judicial system, we have amendments, you can come in and amend what was stated, and I'll just lawyer it. And the judge wouldn't allow me to amend my statement. And they pigeonholed me in. And so if God and so then, because I had asked God for wisdom, and man had pigeonholed me in God was my problem. And I was mad at God. And I cursed those attorneys, and that judge.

And I was so holding on to that injustice with white knuckling it. And I was running, working out and I was running. And in the middle of that, the Lord said, middle of my run, I felt the Lord say, Hey, I need you to release that to me.

Can you give me that broken place? And I went, no. And he said, Kim, your words have the power of death and life. Your words are supposed to align with me because you're in alignment with me. You abide in me. Can you do what I asked you to do?

No. Because you didn't show up for me. I'm disappointed. Oh, weren't the Israelites disappointed when he didn't show up for them?

Weren't they disappointed when he didn't show up as their, you know, as their king, right? Oh, all of a sudden, it's the same old route, just a different way to, you know, just a different way to sneak it in there. And then I could really hear all the way back to the garden where the enemy was saying, did God really say, do you, are you really, your identity really? And I didn't want to go down that road twice, almost to the breath.

I couldn't breathe. And I sat down on the part bench next to me and I said, I want to, I want to come in alignment, but I don't know how. And I felt the prodding of the Holy Spirit. Can you do it this way, inch by inch?

And I've heard it said that if you give the enemy an inch, you'll become your ruler. And I knew I didn't want to go there. So inch by inch, I made the slightest choice and it was painful. And I made the slightest choice the next day and then the next day.

And then by Valentine's day of the next year, I woke up and I said, Hey, I'm going to beat you to the punch. I not only bless those gentlemen, but I bless them generationally. You come get what you paid for.

I don't have any right to hold against those men. What happens here on the earth when you came to redeem all, come get all, you come get it all. And it was in that moment that something broke in me.

It broke off, not broke down. And God began to heal inch by inch, restore, rejuvenate and not just with me, but with our finances and then turned around and in my marriage and then turned around and bless both of my sons. Yeah, I couldn't, the broken girl in 2019, if I could go back and tell her, get them, just do it now.

I would go back and tell her it's so much better on this side. The enemy doesn't, the enemy wants you to believe God is withholding good things. That's not his promise.

He will withhold no good things. He turned all things. Did you know in every language, whether it's in Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic, in every language, all is all. And he promises. I would that you be blessed in all things. He promises all things work together for your good.

And you give it to him so he can do it. That is an amazing testimony, Kim. God bless you. Thank you so much for calling in. What a testimony. I'm going to think about that for a few hours now.

God, at least maybe two days. Thank you, Kim. Hey, thanks for calling, Kim. Bye-bye. We got Terry, but we need you. 866-348-7884.

You call us with your moment. We got Terry. He's in North Carolina.

Terry, you're on Truth Talk Live. Thank you. My story, it unfolded in Spain. I was just wondering kind of a hippie world wanderer, and I was in, and that took me to Spain, where I was learning to speak Spanish. And one day on a bus, a public transport, I met a young American who approached me and introduced himself, said he was living in a community of missionaries. There was a missionary there in Málaga, Spain.

Oh, wow. That's a beautiful place, too, if you're going to be in a missionary. Wonderful place, yeah. He was a conscientious objector, and he was doing his alternate service by serving with this missionary community. And he invited me to that community. We had several conversations. He invited me to that community. I met the leader, the lead missionary in that community.

They had been expelled from Morocco with the government, by the government, for preaching the gospel, but they were still sending the gospel into the country by making radio transmission of the gospel, radio programs to send in to the— Terry, I hate to stop you right there, but we've got to go to a break. Can you hang on with us throughout the break? Because I know we want to hear how it happened. Sure, yeah, I'll hold on. Wonderful, wonderful. How about you?

Yeah, well, good. 866, the number to call in if you want to share. 866-348-7884. We'll hear the rest of Terry's story. We've got another one lined up already, and we need yours.

Call us. Welcome back to Truth Talk Live. We are having fun the Holy Week. Today we're talking about what did you witness when the stone was rolled away from your own life? You know, that moment when you witnessed, wow, God is real. God is doing something, and I can actually like, man, He is all this.

And once you get a look at God yourself, you look quite a bit different. Things really change. And when we left off, we had Terry. He was telling us how he was in Malogna in Spain, which, by the way, Terry, I was in Malogna about two months ago, and it is a phenomenal place. Like, man, I cannot tell you that it's one of my favorite places in all of Europe I've ever visited. So I'm kind of jealous that you got to spend all that time there. And you were in a missionary, and there you had an experience with Jesus? Yes, the Gospel Missionary Union.

They were called, listening to the Gospel through different members of that community. One night I went, I was living in a cottage along the Mediterranean, working with a group of fishermen, beach sane fishermen, his Spanish guys. And one night alone in that cottage, after I had been exposed to this missionary community, Gospel Missionary Union, I just quietly surrendered my life. I just felt like I made a surrender. I yielded myself. I just admitted I'd made a mess of my own life.

I wanted to give you a chance, God, I want to give you a chance, see what you can do with it. And when I went back to the community the next day or so, and we just casually mentioned, I had no idea that what I had done was such a milestone. I just thought that was the next step. And so I went back and I mentioned it to them, and they said, you did what? And I said, I surrendered my life to the Lord. And they said, okay, we're calling off all work today. We're going to celebrate as a community. We're going to celebrate. And I thought, wow, I guess I did something more than I realized that.

I did. And so I was delighted to celebrate with them the rest of that day. And not long after that, sitting with that head missionary, because he had an intellect such that he was able to answer a lot of my questions to my satisfaction. And one night I just opened up to him, and this kind of touches what Michael and I were talking about recently, when I told him that oftentimes something has to be revealed before it can be healed. And I can relate, and I thank Kim for her testimony just prior to this, because it fits perfectly with this. One night I opened up to him, his name was Clem, I opened up to Pastor Clem and I just said, you know, I sit down and when I sit down with people I don't know and try to eat a meal, I just begin to shake.

I can't even function to finish the meal. There's something that rises up, some sort of fear that rises up in me, and I can't, I'm shaking so bad I can't even bring the food to my mouth. And I'm sure it had something to do with my experience with LSD, with the use of marijuana, all of the other things that went with the lifestyle that I had been living.

And anyway, however it got to that point made me vulnerable to that kind of oppression. I opened it up to him, and he said, I'll tell you the exact words, and he just said, Terry, you've told me something very strange, and now I'm going to do something which may seem strange to you. And he put his hand on my shoulder, and he said, in the name of Jesus Christ, I bind this demon of fear, I drive this out of Terry, I drive you demon of fear out of him, and I command you to return to your divinely appointed place.

Just simply that, he didn't make a big deal or show out of it. Matter of factly, addressed a demon presence, and this condition I was in, I didn't even feel human. I felt like, when that came over me, I felt like an animal.

I just felt like I wanted to huddle off in the corner in the dark, and that's what I had to do if I wanted to finish the food. But, and I'm not saying that something happened dramatically, instantly, but from that moment, I began to get free from that oppression and that fear, and until it wasn't even something that I remembered anymore, that freedom that gradually came about. And it was through that that I was introduced to youth with a mission. They weren't far in Tangier, Morocco. They were not far away from Malaga, and I went down there. Right, right across the street.

Like three miles or something like that, yeah. Well, the Lord actually says, Terry, he says, behold, I make all things new. Right. That's beautiful.

What a story. That is awesome. Thank you, Terry. God bless you. I appreciate you calling in so much and having the courage to do that, right?

It takes a lot. It shows the fear you've overcome. It's beautiful. God bless you, Terry.

Thank you for praising God. We got Jamal is in North Carolina as well. Happens to be in Winston-Salem, I believe. Jamal, you're on Truth Talk Live. Yes, I am in Winston-Salem, and I'm glad to be on the radio again with Mr. Michael Zwick and the Christian car guy. I'm just elated and glad to hear you back on the radio, brother Michael Zwick. Hey, Jamal, thank you so much for calling in, brother. You've always been supportive, and Jamal always has a smile on his face, so I love to see Jamal.

That's very true. Unfortunately, I got to get out of here. I'd like to stay longer, but just maybe we want to call and support you guys, and, you know, God bless you for another good round of being on the radio, and God bless Truth Network. You guys take care. Thank you, Jamal. I appreciate you calling so much.

God bless. All right, how about you? 866-348-7884. We would love to hear your story. We don't have a lot of time, but we can get something in here.

866-348-7884. We're getting back to your story, Michael, since I got you. Okay. And, you know, there's this moment, right, that you're sitting in the pew, and the preacher says, as I recall, something along the lines of, the devil won't tell you. Not to give your life to Christ at all. He'll say, just do it later. Put it off. Just put it off. Today is the day of salvation. And so at that moment, I want to go back to that moment, because what you told me is we were talking about this before the show, which I think is critical to the story.

I love it. You said you were terrified to death of going to the front. And, of course, what we just heard from Terry is he was terrified to death. And I can assure you that before I saw the light, before I came to know Christ, that was really God, I suffered with fear horribly. Big, big, big time.

Huge. So what in the world took you from a place of fear to a place of faith that, like, I've got to go? What moved your feet? It was God.

It was God. And so it's funny. I was so afraid to go forward, and I was scared to death talking about the fear. But one of the things that actually helped me is there were some other people who started running up to the front. And I said to myself, I said, if they could do it, I could do it as well. And so I did. And that was it. And, you know, that wasn't it. That was the beginning. That was the beginning.

No, I think it's a very important thing that you just said that I don't, you know, I'm going to hold my own heart that you saw the other people. It's just like when you hear, you know, Kim story when you hear Terry story when, you know, I'm trying to think of this gentleman from Michigan that called first first caller Jeff. Jeff, you're right.

Good memory. When you hear Jeff story, when you hear those stories, it's like, hmm, it gives you hope that there's something there. And then when you see somebody else do something like me, maybe I'd maybe I can have that, too. And that's the whole idea of witnessing in it is that you saw something.

Well, it is. And, you know, one of the verses that changed my life and I heard it on a right around Easter Sunday. But it says First Corinthians fifteen fifty five through fifty six. It says, oh, death, where is thy sting? Oh, grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin. And the strength of sin is the law.

But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord for as much as you know, that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. And it almost reminds me of Jesus' labor of love.

Your labor is not. That's for those who don't know the joke that he was saying as a Christian car guy shows ministry. One of them is the Jesus labor love, which is car repair for single moms, widows and families in crisis.

You can find out all about that at Christian car guy dot com. But the cool thing is really that it went from that place of fear sitting in a pew, right? It went from that place of fear for for Jeff. And you could you could hear Kim's story.

You could hear a Jeff story. It goes from this place of darkness to a place of unbelievable light. And the more that we get out in the light, the less the darkness is winning, right? Let your you know, the Bible says, Let your light so shine before men so that they may see your good works and glorify your father who was in heaven. Yeah, you got it in you.

It's in there like preggo spaghetti sauce. You go share that with somebody as you meditate on Easter this week. Tomorrow is John 15. You know, just saying tomorrow's the 15th, right? And so for some, you know, that's something to study. And we'll look forward to having you here again tomorrow.