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That's us. That's right. I love this American ride. And hello, America. Welcome to the Todd Starnes Radio Program.

I know you're shocked. It's me, right? Yeah. Wow. Great to be back with you.

And I want to thank Jeff's Squared for hanging out with us and doing a wonderful job. I heard nothing but rave reviews. I will say it's been a weird couple of days, to be honest with you. Went out and did this incredible event over in Heber Springs, Arkansas. What a great patriotic town.

Great patriotic people. Had a huge turnout at the Reagan dinner. and we just had an absolute blast. Got home, and I will say this, immediately got a little sick. Actually, a whole lot sick.

I don't know. It was like the 24-hour, 36-hour, whatever it is, flu. And anyway, all that to say it is nice to be back with you today. I would have been unpleasant Monday and Tuesday, just to be honest. I don't want to be unpleasant with you good people.

So anyway, we've got a lot going on. Wow. President Biden, I will say this, I was watching moment by moment the president as he stepped off of the airplane. And the good news was that he did not trip going down the junior staircase on Air Force One. That was a good thing.

I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea with the world on the verge of World War III to send Joe Biden to make sure that we find peace somewhere. But that's what they decided to do.

Now, I just want to be very clear about a few things here. And this is an important thing because we are about to move into some very dangerous and difficult days. And there is a very good chance that this country could be on the verge of war. A very good chance. We are living in some dangerous times right now.

And quite frankly, it's all because of the Democrats and the never-Trump Republicans. This is all on you. It was during Donald Trump's administration that this country was not involved in an armed conflict. It was Donald Trump who led this country to a place where we were respected and feared by the world. It was Donald Trump who put the fear of Almighty God into the hearts of the Muslim terrorist.

They thought the guy was crazy, and they thought that guy would wipe them off the face of the earth if they did anything to Israel. And they would have been right. But here we are, ladies and gentlemen, in a very dangerous spot in American history and world history, where raging protests are happening right now across U.S. embassies in the Middle East. Earlier this morning, Beirut, Lebanon, the embassy there coming under assault, The State Department issuing warnings.

I will say this, and I hope you hear me. I think that it would be wise for those of you who are traveling overseas, or maybe, just maybe, you have things that would take you outside of the confines of the United States of America. I would encourage you to consider canceling those plans and just stay home. At least here in America, there is some semblance of safety. But I'm not too sure it's a good idea for Americans to be traveling abroad right now because the Muslims want to kill the Christians and the Jews.

They want to kill Americans. That's what they want to do, and that's what they're doing.

So we've got a lot to get through today. My question is, do you stand with Israel? Do you still stand with Israel? And what do you recommend Israel do here? Let me explain what was happening this whole trip.

A lot of people were very confused. Why is Joe Biden getting on Air Force One and going to Israel? What's going on there?

Well, he was doing that to stop or at least to delay the ground invasion of Gaza. There was no way the Israelis were going to be able to start their ground offensive if President Biden was boots on the ground in Israel. And once he's gone, more than likely we are going to see the ground game start.

Now, the president and the secretary of state met privately with Israeli officials for upwards of seven hours. What was that all about? Let me explain what's going on here, folks. The Biden administration is trying to stop Israel from going into Gaza. And what you saw today was a strong arm.

Now, with Biden, Biden wasn't doing the strong arming. Biden could barely stay awake. Did you see that in the interview? I mean, he and Netanyahu, and he was starting to, like, lean over. I thought he was just going to keel right on over, take a nap right at the feet of Benjamin Netanyahu.

But that's what that was all about. This was a strong-arm effort by the Biden administration, and it may have been, at the end, begging and pleading, because I'm not sure it really matters what the United States says. But I do know this. I have read the Bible, and I'm telling you, folks, we better not turn our backs on Israel. It could get very bad for us as a nation.

I'm just saying. By the way, I am shocked. Yes, I said shocked, ladies and gentlemen. The word from the New York Times, and it was plastered all over everywhere. you had every major television network, every major newspaper in the world saying that Israel had bombed and rocketed the Baptist hospital in Gaza.

You notice that's the only time they use the word Baptist in the media. I haven't seen that word used in ages. But, man, they were quick to say that we had, I guess, the Israelis had blown up the hospital, 500 people dead. It was horrible. You know, folks, I didn't even think twice.

did not even think twice about it. And you know why? Because now we know it's not true. And the reaction, here's what you need to understand about the mainstream media. The reaction to that story last night tells you everything you need to know about the media, that they mostly employ anti-Semites who do not trust the Jews.

That's it. I mean, that's why they went with the story. They didn't even bother to ask Israel's side. By the way, nobody, nobody asked the Palestinians to refute those claims. And why would they?

The Associated Press, their offices were right next door to a rocket launcher. This is several years back. And the Associated Press reporters, they could actually see the rockets being fired, and they never reported on that. Do you know why they never reported on it? Because they were threatened by Hamas.

So you're not getting fair and balanced coverage. You're not getting any coverage out of Hamas. You're not getting any coverage out of Gaza. And the reason why is it's all propaganda, because the journalists that are there are terrified of being killed. I mean, it's really that simple.

So now we know that the rockets were fired by the Islamic Jihad, And we know this because the Israelis were able to get a hold of radio or telephone transmissions between the terrorists, acknowledging that, whoopsie, we blew up the hospital. It was friendly fire, terrorist-friendly fire is what that was. But we've also verified it, according to the reporting now of ABC News, that the Pentagon has been able to independently verify this.

So they're not relying on the Israeli intelligence here. they've got their own sources. And so the Israelis had nothing to do with this. And yet look at what happened. As a result of the mainstream media reporting, look what happened last night.

The mainstream media reporting on this, it took off like a wildfire. Every single newscast was talking about Israel blowing up the hospital full of little innocent guys and people. And let me say this about the little innocent guys and people. I haven't seen a single one of them out there protesting the slaughter of these of these innocent Jews. Not a one.

And in my estimation, that means nobody's innocent except for the children.

So now you've got so you've got this fake news out there and this fake news. It was like pouring gasoline on the fire. And now look at what's happening, ladies and gentlemen. Look at what's happening right now. Because of the mainstream media reporting, we could very well be on the brink of World War III.

That's what's going on. You know what else is going on? They're voting. Again, the House of Representatives. And folks, we're paying attention.

The House is now voting on whether or not to make Jim Jordan the next Speaker of the House.

So far, Jordan can only lose, I believe, five votes, three, or five, three, four or five votes. And that's it for Jordan. He will not, he will, he will lose on the second battle.

So we're going to be keeping tabs on that story as well. A lot of breaking news, not just in Israel, but right here in the United States, we're going to be taking your calls on both the big stories, including the, the bullying that's been going down. It's not Jim Jordan, but you've got the folks over at Fox news channel, Sean Hannity, and they've been sending out pretty threatening emails to lawmakers. And a lot of these lawmakers are bristling over the bullying. And that's why they so there's actually blowback because of what Fox News is doing, trying to insert themselves into this into this speaker battle.

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So there you go. That's happening right here on American soil in the United States of America. Ladies and gentlemen, right now Jim Jordan is failing and looks like he will not be able to get the votes he needs. I know it's early in the voting process, but already five people vote.

Now six people voting for other. We are watching the live coverage, monitoring it with our friends over at Newsmax. And the question now is, what should the Republicans do now?

So should Jim Jordan go back to the mat and should he fight for this? Folks, it seems to me, and I go all the way back to day one, when the Republicans gained control of the House of Representatives, I said on this very radio program to Jim Jordan's face that he should be the next Speaker of the House. but he refused to put his name into the hat and it got pretty ugly as a matter of fact we were told we were told ladies and gentlemen um to to not even advance that notion to to just his people were saying Todd Jim doesn't want it he he he's very happy where he is right now and he does not he does not want to be speaker of the house so I'm not sure what happened between now and then. But if we had just stayed the course from day one, we would not be in the situation we're in right now. Because Jim Jordan is a very well-liked man up on Capitol Hill.

That's not the issue. He really is very well-liked. And by the way, here are the people who are voting. And we're going to post this on our website. And you need to be calling Capitol Hill right now, call Capitol Hill and give them a piece of your mind.

So, so far, you've got Don Bacon of Nebraska, Vern Buchanan, who voted for Byron Donalds, Ken Buck, who went for Emmer. We've got Chavez, Duremer going for McCarthy, and Despacito goes for Lee Zeldin.

So we're looking at the same voting pattern that we saw yesterday.

Now seven people.

So this is not going well.

Now, we have a question here. And the question is, what happens next? After this vote, we will still not have a Speaker of the House. We will have a Speaker pro tem.

So let me explain how all of this works. The Speaker pro tem position, which is held by our friend Congressman Botei from North Carolina, Patrick McHenry, he is in place as the de facto leader of the House. There is no time limit for how long this man can actually stay as the Speaker Pro Tem. He could be there until January, which is something that Speaker Newt Gingrich posited last night on Sean Hannity's program. I think that's probably the worst idea I have ever heard.

And by the way, when you want to go back and look at your history here, it was Newt Gingrich who went through the same, same thing. He was the Jim Jordan of his time.

So, ladies and gentlemen, the question, and we're going to open this up to you, 844-747-8868, if not Jim Jordan, who? Or should it be Jim Jordan, and should we just go to the mat? And I know there are a lot of people out there saying, well, it's these seven Republicans now. These seven Republicans. And they're the ones that are, they're siding with the Democrats.

Well, you know what? Yeah, you had eight that sided, eight Republicans sided with the Democrats to oust McCarthy.

So you really don't have a leg to stand on there. And we're up to nine Republicans. Republicans, we're hearing that he could lose even more votes this go-around. He lost 20 yesterday, and he could lose more today.

So we'll be monitoring this. I'm telling you, folks, it is ugly. But I will say this. The moderate Republicans, they hate the conservatives. And if push comes to shove, and we saw this in the presidential election, if push comes to shove, they will work behind the scenes to sabotage the campaigns of conservatives, even for the highest office in the land, because they crave power so much.

Here's Congressman Kim Buck yesterday, cut number nine. The narrative that is out there. But do other Republicans feel the same way you do? They're just not willing to say it out loud? Absolutely.

I've talked to a number of people who've come up to me and almost whispered, thank you. Whispered? Yes. No, there isn't. Why are they so afraid?

I don't understand. What are they afraid of?

Well, the Republicans who are going to vote against Jim Jordan on the second ballot, which will be more Republicans. More. More. Absolutely. Want the cover of saying, I voted for Jim Jordan, but now it's time to move on.

The problem is they are afraid of a primary. The calls that are coming in are ridiculous. They're in the hundreds, if not thousands, that are coming into every office right now. The grassroots campaign is very strong for Jim Jordan.

Well, it's going to be a mess here, folks, because we do have the debt limit coming up, and we could have a looming government shutdown. By the way, that number now at 11 votes, 11 votes against Jordan on the Republican side. All the Democrats are sticking with Jeffries. Do not be surprised if there is an effort by some of these moderates to find some sort of an agreement with the Democrats and put Jeffries in the Speaker's chair. That is not out of the question right now.

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Oh, good Lord. Mike Kelly just voted for John Boehner. By the way, it's a done deal. It looks like Congressman Jim Jordan's goose is cooked right now. But you've got Mike Kelly voting for John Boehner.

So far, he's the only one voting for Boehner. Let's go live to the country club. I think we have John Boehner on the Patriot-Level Newsmaker line. Congressman or former Congressman Boehner. All right, we'll get back to you there.

We'll check back in with you. He's an emotional man, very passionate man, John Boehner is. All right, our telephone number, 844-747-8868. Let's go to the phones roll. Charles in North Carolina listening to us on the great WSIC.

Hey, Charles, what's going on? Hey, I hope you're feeling better from taking off a couple of days.

Well, you're kind. Thank you very much, Charles. Cut. I think Jim Jordan just needs to stay up there on the floor and just keep vote after vote after vote and not throw in the towel. Because if it's not going to be him, I don't know who it's going to be.

I wish he would have never walked off the floor last Friday. I wish they would have failed to vote then. But at this point, I mean, this is just a charade that we're watching. And we're just seeing the divisions within the Republican Party. But I would like to see him just stay up there like McCarthy did and just keep calling vote after vote after vote.

If he can get some of these people back on board and get to 217. Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's this is the hill to die on. let's stay and let's fight. Fight till the better end.

Yeah, for sure. And Todd, as far as Israel goes, let me just weigh in on that. I'm a big supporter of Israel, and I think Israel has every right to go into Gaza and defend itself and use whatever means necessary. But that being said, I'm not for the United States unilaterally attacking another country like Lindsey Graham suggest for two reasons. One, it's up to the Congress to declare war, not the Senate or the president.

And if there's going to be a war, I think that needs to go before the American people and get a formal declaration of war instead of these wars that we've had for the last 20 years. And secondly, Todd, I still believe the greatest threat to our country is not in the Middle East. It's not in Russia. It's not in China. It's right there on our southern border, because in the last 10 days, when everybody's been focused on Israel and Gaza, I bet you there's been 200,000 illegals that have crossed our border from over 100 countries.

And a lot of these people are terrorists. And we're seeing the result of that right now with all these protests on college campuses and in cities around the world. that I never thought this would happen. But that's the real enemy, and I think that's where the focus needs to be.

Well, look, I'm with you there. As a matter of fact, we've got some new border numbers out. Let's see here. I'm trying to pull up. I'll pull up that information.

But we are expecting, rather, we are expecting new border numbers to come out today. And it's not looking good. I'm just telling you, it is not looking good. And Charles, to your point, you are looking at God knows what coming across that southern border. And when you see the radicalized college students that are here in this country right now, we've got terrorists literally walking among us.

We do. And I couldn't imagine. Could you imagine, Todd, after 9-11, if there had been a protest on college campuses in support of the hijackers that crashed those planes into the World Trade Centers? I mean they would have been lynched But now not only is this the result of an open border But this is also the result of an education system That has indoctrinated people to hate their own country And embrace cultural Marxism We're seeing this on full display right now And we've got so many problems over here Not only do we have to seal off that southern border But we've got to find a way to deport the millions of people That are here either peacefully or by force if necessary But that's what it's going to take to save this country. Yeah, look, there's some audio from the king of Jordan who says, yeah, we're not taking the Gazans.

They're not coming over here. And there's a reason why Egypt built a wall between themselves and Gaza, is they don't want the terrorists coming into their country. And you heard it from the Egyptian president, I believe this was earlier today, who said, we don't want Gaza firing those missiles from Egypt into Israel.

So everybody there knows what's going on. Everybody knows what's going down over there.

So it's really a fallacy what's happening in the mainstream media. They're giving cover, and really the mainstream media, including folks right here in America, and especially the American media, they are sold out. They are the propaganda wing of the Palestinians. Oh, yeah, no question about it. And, you know, for Nikki Haley to suggest that maybe we should allow the Gazan refugees to come into America, I mean, that is just absolute lunacy, you know?

It's lunacy. And, you know, I heard David Petraeus on TV yesterday. And here's a guy that has contributed to losing the war over the last 20 years. He's an idiot. Here's a guy that said we can fight a war in Ukraine.

We can fight a war in the Middle East. We can fight a war in China and we can secure the southern border. That is totally asinine and unrealistic because we're broke. We are totally broke. And there's just no way we can do that with that.

Just get without exacerbating the situation.

Well, and Charles, appreciate that call. And thank you for listening. 844-747-8868 is our number. That's 844-747-8868. So we're up to 17 no votes.

So it's a no-go for Jim Jordan.

So does he demand an immediate vote after this, or do we take another day off? Because, folks, this is not getting resolved. I've been telling you for, gosh, for at least a year now, that there was a civil war brewing within the Republican Party. And this is it. This is it on display right now.

And I need you to call Capitol Hill, and you need to tell your elected leaders to get on board and vote for Jim Jordan. Steve Scalise is backing Jordan, at least publicly. And by the way, there are rumblings that Steve Scalise, who, by the way, Steve Scalise is part of the machine in Washington, D.C. He is conservative-ish, but he is not a conservative. But you need to get on the phone here, and you need to let your lawmakers know where you stand on Jim Jordan.

Otherwise, we're going to be in a mess. It is a great big mess, and we've got some big issues facing our nation right now. I want to play some audio.

So this is Speaker Newt cut number eight The only argument I think for McHenry is if you cannot get an agreement tomorrow in Jordan the world is moving As we just talked about, Israel's in a big war. Ukraine is in a war. China's on offense. The border is open. If need be, why not have 15 votes?

If need be, why not do what they did with McCarthy?

Well, if I thought that would work, I would be for 15 votes. I'd be for 15 votes, frankly, to bring McCarthy back. The fact is, I have no faith that you can put this together right now.

Now, again, if I'm all for Jordan having an opportunity tomorrow, I hope he can win. I'd much rather have a new speaker than have a speaker pro tem. But I wrote my newsletter on the grounds that my hunch is that 200 votes is about what he's going to get. 200 votes is much higher than Scalise got. And Scalise was the majority leader.

and my sense from talking to people in the House tonight is that in the next vote, he might actually get fewer, not more votes. If that happens, we can't sit around and suck our thumbs and hope the world will wait until the House Republicans get their act together. Every day we're closer to the end of the continuing resolution. Every day we're closer to a huge age package for Israel that has to be passed. Every day, we are failing to do the investigations we need to be doing.

And so if in a worst case, I think that we've had our two best shots, Scalise and Jordan. If Jordan can win, I am totally for him. This is not to undercut him. And Jim is a good guy. He's a very competitive guy, as you know.

He's 156 to 1 in high school wrestling. He was twice the NCAA wrestling champion for the country. He's a very competitive, very smart guy. But I also understand numbers. And I quit because I had 19 guys who thought that balancing the budget, reforming welfare, cutting taxes wasn't enough.

I wasn't conservative enough for them.

So I understand how this game is played. And I'm just saying it's a numbers game given the current narrow Republican majority unless they can get in a room. All right. There you go. Look, he doesn't sound very well, right?

Did you hear the breathing after every other word? The poor guy, he's getting on up there. But I don't know what's happened to Speaker Newt, but clearly he is not the same Newt Ingridge that led the revolution back in the 1990s. He's not that guy anymore. And folks, I'm telling you, the Republicans have to get their act together here.

And I don't know, maybe we're getting to a point where there is not a party anymore. Maybe the differences between the moderates and the conservatives, and really it's becoming a three-way split now because you've got this populist wing of the party that was elected during the Trump years, and they are not conservative. By and large, they are not conservative on the culture war issues.

So you've got three distinct groups now fighting each other in the Republican Party. And if we don't get our act together, we're going to get our butts handed to us in the elections in 2024. That's pretty clear to me.

So it seems to me the only person right now who can bring us together, and tell me if I'm wrong here, but it seems to me the only person with the standing to bring all the factions together is Donald Trump.

So what's going to happen next? That's the question.

So we're going to get an idea of that. Right now, everybody's in the House chamber. They're voting. And we're going to bring you the numbers. But right now, Jordan's going to have to go to another round of voting.

Our telephone number is 844-747-8868. That's a toll-free telephone number. That's 844-747-8860. I mean, do you see Jim Jordan? I'm sorry, do you see Governor Ron DeSantis being the great unifier of the party?

Does DeSantis have the stature to unify the party? What about Nikki Haley? And by the way, she disqualified herself from the presidency by suggesting that we ought to be taking in these Gazan refugees. Not a single one needs to step foot on American soil. These are very dangerous people, very dangerous people.

But is it Nikki Haley? Is it Vivek Ramaswamy? I mean, who do you see that is truly going to be the leader of the party? There are no party elders right now who are running the show. That's the problem.

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That's Essential Church, streaming at SalemNow.com. All right, folks, welcome back to the Tom Stearns Radio Program. We are about to post on our page the list of lawmakers so far. You folks in Georgia, you've got one, Congressman Ferguson voting against Jim Jordan. Also, you folks in Iowa, Congresswoman Miller-Meeks, Nebraska, you've got Rutherford and Bacon.

over in, looks like we've got a lot of folks from Florida and New York voting against Jordan. Anyway, we've got the list so far, 21. That's right, 21. And they're just making their ways through the S's.

So we'll keep you updated. But Jim Jordan does not have the votes. That's the bottom line here. Let's go to Jerry in Iowa. Jerry, what's on your mind today?

Hi, Todd. Glad you're back. But I'll say you and Jeff Stein have a pretty similar voice quality, so I think you could impersonate each other. But mainly I just wanted to talk about Kevin McCarthy. I think he's the only speaker who has ever been punished for being a fiscal squish.

I mean, you can blame the gays for blowing things up, But it's really the 15 or 20 rhinos that are just perpetuating the same old spending pattern.

So I think we should note that Kevin McCarthy, he's just a fiscal squish, and I'm glad things got blown up.

So look, go all the way back to John Boehner. And what was Boehner's number one? The only thing John Boehner had going for him as a as that was attractive to conservatives was he was a rock solid fiscal conservative. And yet he did not he did not rule the House as a fiscal conservative. And that's one of the reasons why he was he was ousted.

And one of the architects of that whole plan was Kevin McCarthy. It was McCarthy, Paul Ryan, and you also had Eric Cantor. McCarthy was the last of those three, the so-called Gen Xers, who wanted to be the young guys and blow things up on Capitol Hill.

So here we are once again, and I think what's so appealing about Jim Jordan is that he has really fought this. He has fought, he has delivered over and over again, And I think this is the guy that could actually lead us to being fiscally responsible again. And also getting to the bottom of all these scandals. Finish your thought there, Jerry.

Well, I'm just saying it's taken courage to get to this point where now Jim Jordan can replace McCarthy. And former Congressman Steve King says that McCarthy is really not an honest broker behind the scenes. He says, like, he got along with Paul Ryan, but Boehner and even Nancy Pelosi was more honest dealmaker, according to Steve King, who's a conservative Christian, than McCarthy. And it couldn't happen to a better guy, McCarthy, getting out and getting Jordan in is an opportunity. All right.

Jerry, appreciate the call. And, yes, that is the – look, that's the dirty, open secret up on Capitol Hill is Kevin McCarthy was not a man to be trusted. Let's go to James in Georgia, WDUN. Hi, James. What's on your mind?

Hey, Todd. It's good to have you back. Thank you. I just wanted to comment briefly on what Newt Gingrich had to say. I'm a huge Newt Gingrich fan.

I appreciate you so much, what he did, the contract with America. his help during the Reagan administration he was wonderful but I think he's wrong on this I think we have a chance to allow the chaos to continue until it's finally resolved I would absolutely not settle for anything less than Jim Jordan at this point we're so close and all the things that Nick talked about the China problem the border problem the problem in Israel, all those things existed.

Well, Israel didn't, but all those things existed before when Kevin McCarthy was the House Speaker, and they still exist today. Nothing's gotten any worse or any better because of the absence of a speaker. I wish we had a speaker, but I would much rather use a Rush Limbaugh strategy of, Let's just have chaos for a while and get to a point that's acceptable to conservatives rather than just giving in to the small minority of liberals. And James, that is a great point. We're going to have to wrap that up.

But chaos is not necessarily a bad thing. But we've got some chaotic issues going on globally with this war. And that has me very concerned.

Now, the question for you North Carolina folks, would McHenry make a good speaker? because there are now rumblings that he could be the guy if Jim Jordan fails. All right, 844-747-8868. This is the Todd Stern Show. We'll be right back, America.

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Oh, yeah. And hello, everybody. Welcome to the Todd Starnes radio program. It is great to have you with us. broadcasting today on 140 radio stations across this great nation.

All right, so here's where we're at. We were following this in real time, but Jim Jordan has just lost the second vote to be Speaker of the House. He lost more. I believe 22 votes would be the final tally. Yesterday, he lost 20 Republicans.

Today, 22.

So the question now is, what happens next? And we're going to be following those developments momentarily, this all happening in real time here, and we'll let you know the lay of the land momentarily. But I will say that this is causing a bit of chaos within the Republican Party. There is a triple civil war going on between the moderates and the conservatives and the populist, and they're having a very difficult time getting along and coalescing behind a speaker.

So here's the bottom line. And if Kevin McCarthy had just followed through with all of his promises he made to the House Freedom Caucus, this wouldn't be an issue. He would still be Speaker of the House.

So really this goes back to a simple question. And the answer to the question, it doesn't matter if you're a moderate, it doesn't matter if you're a conservative or a populist, You got to answer the one question. And here's the question. Are you going to be a man or a woman of your word? That's it.

It is very simple. Are you going to be a man or a woman of your word? the Democrats the answer to that question is absolutely I mean they would they would sell us off to the Islamic Jihad in a heartbeat but at least you know that they would be honest about it and they would tell you up front that's why Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar and the Hamas caucus are so open and vocal about their position they don't mind letting you know that they support the terrorists. They have no problem with that. That's what they believe.

And they're going to do everything in their power to advance the Hamas cause. If you gave Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, well, let me just say this. You put Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib next to a Jewish daycare, you might want to move the Ginsu knives. I'm just saying, they're defending the terrorists. And by the way, I know that's a little shocking for people to hear, but you need to understand when you've got kids, American kids, marching through the street calling for the genocide of Jews, that's what they're talking about.

That's what's going on. And we've got to call it out every single day on this radio program and every other radio program out there. And I appreciate Mark Levin, the great one, because he's been out there leading the charge on this and calling these people what they are. They are Nazis. They're Hamas Nazis.

That's a phrase he coined, by the way. A lot of people don't give Levin credit for this stuff. But he was out on the forefront of this issue. And it pains me to say that you've got people on Capitol Hill elected to office that made a choice. You did not see Rashida Tlaib come out and condemn the killing, the beheading of the babies in Israel, did you?

No, you did not. And you know why? Because those lives don't matter to people like Rashida Tlaib and Alhan Omar. Just want to point that out. It's an inconvenient truth.

That being said, at least they're honest with their constituents. The Republicans, on the other hand, they have had a long troubled history in the honesty department. And we're not asking for a lot here. We're asking for you to secure our borders and to balance the budget. That's all.

That's all. We don't want you to spend more than the Democrats. We want you to spend less. You know, the Republicans campaign on smaller government, and it seems like every time we put the Republicans in charge, we get a larger government.

So we're not asking a lot here. We just want you to be honest. That's it. If Kevin McCarthy would have been honest, he would still have a job. But beyond that, let's just set that aside for a moment.

The Republicans are the ones who are responsible for all of this in the first place. They're the ones who agreed to these rules. It would just take one person, one person to stand up and announce they wanted to vacate the chair.

So all these people feigning outrage, uh-uh, can't do it anymore. You made the bed.

Now you got to lie in it. And if that means we have chaos, it means we have chaos. Our telephone number today, 844-747-8868. That's 844-747-8868. We're also monitoring developments in Israel.

It is not looking good. It is looking bad. And it is looking bad all across the Middle East.

So we're going to keep you updated. Protests erupting all over the Middle East right now, including in Turkey. Not looking good at all. And, folks, I want to direct your attention real quick to our website. We are partnering with Dennis Prager and Mike Huckabee, among many others.

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In my town, the town that I live in, I thought I moved to a conservative town, Germantown, Tennessee, beautiful suburb. They got the horses. They have great little restaurants. It's a great, probably one of the best police departments in the entire state. They've got good people working there.

But let me tell you, we've got a bunch of woke morons, and most of them are elected to office.

So we've got a radical school board, and we do our own schools over in Germantown. We're a suburb of Memphis, and I'm just stunned. And I don't think Germantown, Tennessee is that liberal, but maybe I was just way off base here. But we've got a bunch of rich, woke people that live in our community, and they got elected to a lot of the offices.

So we've been dealing with this situation with the school board, and they've been at the center of a lot of the controversies. They've been advancing this gender ideology nonsense. They let a boy get on board the homecoming court with the girls.

So you've got all these beautiful girls, and they've got a boy in a dress at homecoming. They've got the sign-up list for the high school musical. And the high school musical asks a series of questions, and one of them was your preferred pronouns, and then your preferred name, and the name you would prefer us to use when addressing your mommy and your daddy. You see what's going on there?

Sounds like a little bit of grooming going on in the theater department at Houston High School in the Germantown School District. And then came word that apparently they were letting a boy use the girls' bathroom. A lot of parents upset. The local Moms for Liberty chapter is just in an uproar over this. And so then last night, someone sent me this item.

and a hat tip to one of our great conservatives in this area. His name is Luke Simbel, and he's on top of all of this stuff and sent me some video from the Germantown School Board meeting last night to decide whether or not they should change the name of Good Friday. I'm not making this up. It's unbelievable.

So the school board, the recommendation has been made, and they're going to make the decision next week. The decision has been made to change the name of Good Friday to Spring Holiday. And apparently they do something else here. I guess they give the kids off on Monday too because people, you're out of town and you're traveling back. And so the kids get back late.

So they call that Easter Monday. And so they're going to change the name. I've never heard of Easter Monday. Back when I was in school, you went out and you had a great Easter. You went out and you got all the little eggs in the front yard, and then you ate as much chocolate as you could, and you got sick.

But by golly, you were on the school bus the next day. That's how we did school back in the 70s. We were tougher back then. But I guess these days the kids need a day off from their day off. Anyway, they're changing the name of that too.

So my question, is that a problem for you? Do you have a problem with these school districts that are going in and changing the name Good Friday. I'd be curious to know, are they going to change the name of the Ramadan holiday? Are they going to do that too?

So we've got some audio here. I want you to hear this. This is actually the Germantown School Board, and there's one guy, one conservative doctor in the bunch, and he just nails it. Cut number one. Previous names.

I mean, I understand the thought process. I think the change at minimum is going to be a frustration to a lot of families, self-included, and possibly more of a frustration to others. That would be my request. I feel like it sends a message that we don't necessarily need to send. Which is?

You're anti-Christian, lady. Is there any other reason that those days are holidays other than Easter, Good Friday, Easter Monday? Not those specific days. I know there are some others close to that. Call them what they are.

I think probably the reason that, other than the fact that traditionally we've had that off, one of the reasons we'd have that off is because we also allow people who celebrate religious holidays to have that day excused.

so because our environment is such that we have a majority christian environment the majority of our kids would be taking that day off and it would be excused so instead of having school and having 75 percent of our school not show up we have does that make sense sure i mean the day off makes complete sense i think the name change is is just an i think it's in respect to those that don't celebrate. I think it's an unneeded frustration to take a name of a day that is only important for one reason and call it something else. And I would request we change it. I don't think I will vote for any of those options with the name change as it is. I respectfully disagree.

Oh my word. All right. So the guy you heard there, he's a very prominent doctor. He's on the school board here. His name is Dr.

Daniel Chatham, and he's a conservative. And good for you, doctor. I will say this. I would not have been as calm and as patient and kind and as considerate, because basically they're saying, we really don't care about you Christian students anymore. And by the way, the female voice you heard, her name is Amy, is it E-off?

E-O-F-F. and she's unbelievable. I'm just telling you, we've got an infestation of wokeness in Germantown, Tennessee, and it bothers me that this is happening in my hometown. But you know what?

Sometimes you just have to name and shame folks, and shame on you, Germantown school board. For one thing, you're letting boys put on dresses and kick girls off of the homecoming court, and now you're about to kick Good Friday off of the school calendar. What is wrong with you people? This is not Loudoun County, Virginia. Got to take a break.

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In other words, these more than 18,000 were able to escape and are currently somewhere here in the United States of America.

Now, you need to understand something here, folks. We're talking about some very bad people coming across that border. And I'm not talking about the people that are picking lettuce and rutabagas. I'm talking about militant jihadists that want to do this country harm.

So Lord knows how many of those people have been able to cross over the border during the Biden administration, right?

So we're just talking about the first 16 days of 2024, more than 18,000 got away. Just so you're aware. That shows you how bad the situation is at our border We had Charles from North Carolina call in and say hey we got to be focusing on the border It really bad And he right Without a secure border folks we're letting the bad guys come right up our wazoo. And that's a very uncomfortable thing for the nation. All right.

I've got to talk about our good friends over in Pascagoula, Mississippi. We haven't talked to our good friends down there in a long time. Pascagoula, Mississippi, where the squirrel went berserk. And if you don't know, you got to Google. Dylan, you might want to pull that song up.

We may have to educate.

So here we go. This is coming from Pascagoula, East Central Middle School, where a school teacher has been punished. And why, pray tell, was she punished in Pascagoula? Maybe she was a member of the first self-righteous church, I do not know. Anyway, she was caught placing prayer cards underneath all of the desks in her classroom.

So she made it a point to go and put these little prayer cards underneath the seats of the students. Lord Jesus, please keep those demon kids well behaved. I don't know what the prayer was, but if you're a teacher and you've got 30 middle school kids, man, you need all the prayer you can get.

So anyway, the Freedom for Religion Foundation found out about this and they filed a complaint. And shame on the school district. This is unbelievable. The school district has now apologized to the atheist, and they said that they have reprimanded the teacher. She was officially reprimanded, and they admitted that she violated the Constitution and ordered her to cease the prayer cards immediately.

Now, just think about this. We live in a day and an age when teachers have literally turned their classrooms into gay nightclubs. Lord knows what's going on, but you got a teacher who prays and she's the one that gets in trouble. I just want you to happen in down and past Cagula, Mississippi, ladies and gentlemen. I'll tell you what, that squirrel's about to go berserk.

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Introducing the number one woke free job board in America, red balloon dot work. All right. Welcome back to the Todd Starnes radio show. I am getting so many questions here and messages. Who is this squirrel and what is it rabid?

Why is it going berserk? What is happening? What denomination is the first self-righteous? What is going on here? What are they teaching the kids?

What are they teaching the children in school? Clearly, they have never heard of Ray Stevens, and this is a tragedy, a great tragedy.

So anyway, before the break, we were telling you about a schoolteacher down in Pascagoula, Mississippi, who got in trouble because she placed prayer cards underneath the seats of her students in the public school classroom. And as you know, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, they're a nasty bunch of atheists. I mean, I would like to think that by and large, most atheists, you wouldn't mind having over for like the neighborhood barbecue. You know, they just want to be left alone and live their lives believing in nothing. And that's fine.

It's America. You can do that. But man, these Freedom From Religion Foundation people, they're based in Wisconsin, cheese country, and I think they're lactose intolerant, which is why they're just so doggone mean. But they love just targeting all of these schools. And the reality here is that the law is on the teacher's side.

And what really angers me is the school district did not do their homework because the teacher did nothing wrong. Instead, she gets in trouble.

So anyway, I was pointing out that this is all happening, and of all places, ironically, where the squirrel went berserk.

Well, when I was a kid, I'd take a trip every summer down to Mississippi to visit my granny and her antebellum world. Come on now. I'd run barefooted all day long, climbing trees free as a song. Are you folks in Georgia? You know, we got to sing along.

Well, I stuffed him down in an old shoe box, punched a couple holes in the top. When Sunday came, I snuck him in the church. Here it comes. Sing along, America. In the church in that sleepy little town of Pascahula.

It was a fight for survival that broke out in revival. Glory. They were jumping pews and shouting, hallelujah. Hallelujah.

Well, Harv hit the aisles dancing and screaming.

Some thought he had religion. Others thought he had a demon. Harv thought he had a weed eater loose in his fruit in the blooms. He fell to his knees to plead and beg. and the squirrel ran out of his bitch's leg unobserved to the other side of the room.

Come on now. All the way down to the Amen pew where sat Sister Bertha better than you who've been watching all the commotion with sadistic glee. But you should have seen the look at her eyes when that squirrel jumped her garters and crossed her thighs and she jumped to her feet and said, Lord, have mercy on me. As the squirrel made laps inside her dress, she began to cry And then to confess to sins that would make a sailor blush with shame She told of gossip and church dissension But the thing that got the most attention Was when she talked about her love life And then she started naming names The day the squirrel went to search Come on, you woman, son, and dad's church Sing along In that sleepy little town of Pascagoula It was a fight for survival That broke out in revival They were jumping pews and shouting Hallelujah!

Well, seven deacons and the pastor got saved and $25,000 got raised and 50 volunteered for missions in the Congo on the spot. Praise the Lord! And even without an invitation, there were at least 500 rededications and we all got rebaptized whether we needed it or not.

Now you've heard the Bible story, I guess, how he parted the waters for Moses to pass. Oh, the miracles God has wrought in this old world. But the one I'll remember till my dying day Is how he put that church back on the narrow way With a half-crazed Mississippi squirrel The day the squirrel went berserk In the first self-righteous church In that stupid little town of Pascagoula Roll your windows down, haunts your horns More survival, death broke down in revival They were jumping pews and shouting hallelujah The day the squirrel went berserk Being the first supplied to church.

Well, there you have it. Did we lose Portland, Maine? No, did we really? No, I hope not.

So there you go. That is one of the classic songs of all time. The day the squirrel went berserk and the self-reps. You know, look, I just got a text. Why are you doing this, Darnes?

We're in dangerous times right now. Yes, I know, I know. But, I mean, if we're on the verge of nuclear war, you may as well have a little bit of fun. All right, I want to go now to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line, and there's really not a good segue for this, folks. From Ray Stevens to our good friend from the gray state of Texas, Congressman Pat Fallon on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line.

Hey, Congressman, how are you? Todd, how are you doing?

Sorry I was a little tardy, but we just had a speaker vote and just made it back to the office. No, no, no. We were just spending that time banging our heads on the wall watching the vote, Congressman.

so give us a lowdown of what's happening next year we know that the congressman jordan did not have the votes what happens next okay so chad i want to preface my remarks by saying i'm going to tell you what how things are not now how things now how i want them to be fair fair enough because okay so i'd love to have us have 217 votes for jim jordan and we're done and he's speaker of the house. That apparently at least is clearly not where we're at. It may be, Todd, where we never get to. If that is the case, it's up to Jim. And I know this has got to be gut-wrenching to make a decision.

Do we do this again? Because as you just said, if you're knocking your head against the wall where you're at, can you imagine what you'd be doing if people worked here?

So that's what we're doing. And at some point in time, he's got to think about if he's not going to get there and these people are just immovable, it's not going to happen. I don't like it when Democrats cheer. They cheer when they nominate Jeffries. They cheer when he gets the most votes.

They cheer. And they're laughing and they're making a mockery out of the process because let's not let it be. It shouldn't escape people's notice that 100 percent of Democrats voted for this. One hundred percent. They all voted to remove McCarthy.

And well, exactly.

So so I understand that.

So where do we I mean, do we do we need a speaker? There was Newt Gingrich last night on Hannity said, you know what, maybe we need to keep McHenry in that spot until the first of the year. That's something that some members have talked about. I'm of the school that I'm maybe an eternal optimist, but if Jim steps down and says I'm no longer a candidate, I think we've got to go back into our Republican conference and act like all of us, all of us, including myself, act like grownups and say we are going to respect the caucus or conference process, open it up for new candidates. There's four or five names that have been bandied about that would all be excellent.

Have another selection process. And whoever makes it through that, we should 217 votes at minimum. We need to go out there and vote for that person and move on because I don't want the Democrats to have any say whatsoever who the speaker is. And I don't want to kick the can down the road. I was elected to do a job.

I want a leader and I want to get out there and do the business of Texas and this country. Congressman, who do you who would that person be? If it's not going to be Jordan, who would you like to see? I mean, if it's not going to be Jordan. Sure, sure.

I would say that there are, and again, Todd Starnes, you've got a great show. You're a wonderful American, and you ask tough and pointed questions, but they're fair, and you love this country. I mean, that's what your show is, and that's what you've always been when you were working in the print media as well. And for the networks. What I would say is this.

Let's go beyond honesty, and let's get into candor and frankness. Names that I've heard more than three times would be Mike Johnson from Louisiana. Mark Green from Tennessee Jody Arrington from Texas Kevin Hearn from Oklahoma and even Patrick McHenry because he has the job temporarily now any of those five great American patriots I'm fine with we just have to all unite behind someone worth with I gotta tell you I like those those are solid names I mean I can't imagine and Mark Green I'm partial to he's a very good friend But I think he would make a great speaker, I mean, if it comes to that point. Mark Green would be exceptional as a speaker. Think about it.

He's a medical doctor, a combat veteran. He was part of the group that caught Saddam Hussein. He was the first American that interrogated the guy. He has saved lives. He's really an American treasure.

He's an excellent member of Congress. He would have been the Secretary of the Army had it not been for Elizabeth Warren under President Trump.

So it's really hard for the Democrats to attack anything about him and his personal life. Oh, he's just, by the way, successful multimillionaire business guy and entrepreneur.

So he's got in. He's one of the best members we have.

So I would love to say Speaker Mark Green. But again, that's if Jim doesn't want to pursue it, because I'd also love to say Speaker Jim Jordan. But it's looking increasingly like if you want to go real politic, that is a tough, tough hill to climb. All right. Are we expecting another vote today?

Do you have any intel on that just yet, Congressman? No, and please, Todd, you can call me Pat. It's not a slavic and easy to remember. Possibly. If I'm Jim, you've got to put yourself in his shoes.

If he calls for another vote and it's the same result, this result was slightly worse than the first result. He's trending in the wrong direction. That's probably going to be the last one you're going to get. There's a lot of members that I've talked to that said, we're not doing 15 rounds like in January with Kevin. And that was a different and unique circumstance, too, because McCarthy had 88 percent of the conference vote.

So that was a little bit.

Now, in practice, I like the result of that because Kevin was speaker, but we got great rules that decentralize power.

So, you know, but in theory, that's a problem when you don't honor the caucus for a conference vote. You get this kind of chaos. All right. Well, Congressman, we got to leave it there. We are running super late for a break, but we appreciate the update.

And we love Jim Jordan like you. But, again, I think if any of those names are in the hopper, I think we're going to be in good shape. Thank you very much. God bless you. All right.

Congressman Pat Fallon, everybody from Texas, dropping some breaking news here that Congressman Mark Green from Tennessee, Congressman Mike Johnson being mentioned as speaker nominees. Got to take a break here, folks. 844-747-8868. This is The Todd Stern Show. All right.

Really excited to talk with our next guest. Have you ever thought about what happens when we die? I mean, this is something I think we all talk about. Normally, late at night, you know, we used to do this all the time when I was in college. Two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning, you'd have these intense discussions about what happens when we die.

Well, there is an incredible new project coming from Angel Studios called After Death. It's going to be in theaters October 27th, and we've got information over our live show blog. You've got to check this stuff out. The director of After Death is on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line, Stephen Gray. Stephen, good to have you with us today.

Hey, thanks so much for having me, Todd. All right, I don't want you to answer the question because we don't want to spoil the film for everybody, but what does happen when we die? Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, for me personally, the reason why I even did the film is because I went through loss. My brother-in-law was killed in a car wreck at 36 years old, which caused me to ask those very questions.

And I read something like 30 books on near-death experiences, which put me on the path to making this film. After Death Explores, that question, what happens after we die. And we hear from 14 different people who clinically die between seconds to an hour and 45 minutes, and then came back to talk about it. And we also explore the topic from scientists, you know, we have neurologists, cardiologists, surgeons, all kind of talking about this whole thing, this whole phenomenon of near-death experiences and what people are seeing and experiencing. And I understand you interviewed a lot of people.

It caught my attention, you were able to sit down and talk with Don Piper, Dr. Mary Neal, and John Burke, among others. Yeah, we have five New York Times bestselling authors in the film. There's several people that, you know, they've never shared their story before on camera. But yeah, certainly a lot of books that people will be familiar with, 90 Minutes in Heaven, To Heaven and Back, Imagine Heaven, Evidence for the Afterlife.

And we also have Dr. Raymond Moody, who coined the term near experience in his book, Life After Life.

So I'm curious, you know, years ago, well, five or six years ago, there was a big controversy over this whole idea of, they called it heaven tourism, the people who died, and they say they went to heaven and came back. And there was a big debate, especially in Christian circles, over whether or not that was theologically accurate. Do you delve into that, that conversation? Yeah, so we don't, you know, necessarily go into heaven tourism in terms of like that being an issue conversationally, but we do in a different way.

So basically, you know, it was important for us as filmmakers, you know, the directors and producers of the film to explore the topic with, well, we came at it with a great sense of skepticism. You know, not everyone in the project believed in these stories or that this could even be true. All of the accounts that we included in our film had evidence to back up that they clinically died, which was really important for us.

So everything from medical transcripts to, you know, doctor's notes, first responders, eyewitnesses, anything between an accident that happened, you know, far away or in a hospital under the knife. We have all of the medical documentation to back up the claim of clinical death. And then, you know, their experiences can be subjective, you know. And so when people talk about, you know, that they had heavenly encounters or, you know, seeing angels or dead relatives, I mean, we have to, you know, you can kind of go yes or no. I trust that.

I don't trust that. That's kind of a subjective thing. But a lot of these narrative experiences, they include having an out-of-body experience. And part of that is they're actually seeing things that can later be corroborated. um you know for example we have a case Pam Reynolds in the film who she was uh she was uh being in an operation that was a at that time uh you know very experimental um that she had a aneurysm the lower part of her brain stem and so her her head um was was removed of blood and so when they're performing the surgery her heart was stopped and she was clinically dead for over an hour.

And they were measuring her brain activity during the entire procedure.

So her brain was completely offline, flatlined. And during that time is when she had an out-of-body experience, but she's seeing herself from over the shoulder of the surgeon. And then she's seeing angels enter the operating room and she's ushered into this heavenly experience. But the stuff that she saw during the operation could later be corroborated by the two neurosurgeons that were present during the surgery. You know, she talks about things that there was an issue during the surgery of, you know, they had to go from one leg to the other, and her vein was cannulated, and there was, you know, arguments that took place during the surgery and the music that they were playing, which she thought was very insensitive.

And she's relaying all that in great detail, but it's when her brain was completely offline. Stephen, we've got about 30 seconds here. And And again, folks, go to our website. We have links to this movie, After Death. It's going to be in theaters October 22nd.

What's the takeaway here? Folks going to see this film, what do you want them to take away from this great project you've done?

Well, I think it's going to offer people a lot of hope. And for people who haven't considered life after a spiritual reality, I think it's going to open the door to begin to ask those questions.

So the film hits theaters October 27th. You can get tickets at angel.com slash after death. They're available now. And the film also explores both heavenly and hellish experiences. Oh, wow.

This is going to be fascinating. And, folks, Stephen is an incredible filmmaker and just does some incredible work. You've got to check this movie out, this film, After Death. and again you can get your tickets at angel.com and slash after death movie or i'm sorry after death steven we got to run appreciate the call and we appreciate the time here best of luck to you on this great project folks what do you think happens when we die we'll be right back Live from the Liberty University studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's America's favorite gun-toting, Bible-clinging, deplorable American. That's us, that's right.

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Wow, we've got a lot going on this hour, and no doubt we're following the breaking news coming out of Israel, also now Beirut, where violent protests have broken out again outside of the U.S. Embassy. We're following those developments with our friends on Newsmax Television, and also, of course, the fight over the next Speaker of the House, Jim Jordan, losing his vote the second ballot. We just had Congressman Pat Fallon on with us and the congressman telling us that if things don't go well for Congressman Jordan, then the next guy in line could possibly be Tennessee Congressman Mark Green or Louisiana Congressman Mike Johnson.

So we're going to keep you updated on those stories. But we've got some other things to share with you and very excited about our next guest. Who would have thought that The Chosen would be as successful of a project as it has become? This is something that has just exploded onto the entertainment and the streaming world and the TV world. And what started out, honestly, as a crowd-funded project is now probably one of the most, if not the most popular, faith-based TV programs.

on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. Honored to have with us Dallas Jenkins, who is the creator and the director of The Chosen. Dallas, hope you're doing well today. Hey, thanks so much for having me on, Todd. It's good to talk to you again.

And Dallas, congratulations. I mean, this has just been a remarkable thing for you guys. About ready to start season four, or rather season four exclusively in theaters starting, what, February the 1st. Did looking back, did you imagine that all of this was going to be possible?

Well, of course not. But I will say this. I haven't been focused on the growth of it, because when I sit down on to my laptop on a couch writing a season or when we're on set working with the actors, you know, the blank page doesn't care whether the previous season was successful or not. And we also have to remember that whether there's no one watching or whether there's 100 million people watching, the most important thing is to make sure that we are accurately capturing the spirit and intention of Jesus in the Gospels. And if I start thinking too much about trying to avoid criticism or gain praise or grow viewers, I think that's going to cripple me and the cripple the show.

And so I really am trying to focus on just making sure that nothing changes, at least in the production side of things.

Now, I've known your dad and your mom for a number of years now, and you come from a great writing family. And that really, I think, is the key to all of this is you've got to be able to tell a good story. And that can be, you know, I have to imagine growing up in the church, we all come to expect certain things. You know, you have the passion play, you have the Christmas play. What was that experience like, taking people out of that experience and actually telling these stories?

Yeah, I think you bring up a great point. I think that's one of the things I inherited from my father. And I remember even as a kid feeling somewhat, I don't know what the right word would be. Maybe confused might be too strong of a word. But I remember when every portrayal of Jesus, whether in a movie or a stained glass window or a painting or a flanograph in Sunday school, felt distancing.

I didn't feel like portrayals of Jesus were intimate, authentic, human. You know, we all know that he's divine. We all know that he was the son of God. But I also thought there were thousands of people who followed him around. He was a revolutionary figure who led a movement and changed the world.

Then 2,000 years later, the world is still changed. I don't think he's a boring white guy who only speaks in King James English. And so even as a kid, I felt like we were missing something in the portrayals. And I think having a dad like mine who wrote the Left Behind books, which took biblical concepts and the book of Revelation and made it, didn't replace it, didn't change it, but just was trying to perhaps translate it into a way that we could experience intimately and authentically. That's what I'm trying to do with The Chosen.

So I do believe this is the culmination of decades of, I think, preparation from my family or from my experience growing up to say, I think we need to remove the veil, to remove whatever has gotten in between us and an authentic Jesus and create a show that really does give you the cultural, historical, and yes, biblical context that sometimes is missing. Yeah, and I think you've done that. I mean, it's pretty remarkable, and I've watched a season one, two, midway through season three, and it's really just a beautifully and well-done production. And again, I think that's why people are resonating, and there are so many fans of the show.

So let's talk about season four because this is going to be pretty unique how season four drops. Tell everybody about what's going to happen. Yeah, so we've done some theatrical releases before. We were one of the first shows ever to do something like that, put a couple episodes in theaters. This time we're doing all of the episodes in theaters.

Now, not all at once. We know that sitting through an entire season in a theater seat would be a little bit much to ask for my friends and myself who need to go to the bathroom occasionally.

So we're spreading it out over the course of a month into three groups, episodes one through three, episodes four through six, and then episodes seven and eight. And the reason we're doing this isn't just to be different. It isn't just to become the first TV show to ever do this. It really is because season four is an immersive experience. The scale is bigger.

We're getting closer to Jerusalem, to what we all know is coming in this story. And we believe that demands to be seen and heard on the big screen. The other reason is because, as you know, Todd, there's moments in Scripture that we sometimes forget. Jesus told his followers exactly what was going to happen. He said, I'm going to die.

He said, I'm going to suffer. And they were like, huh, good to know. But hey who going to be first in the kingdom of God Can we sit on your right and left hand And these moments broke Jesus heart John 11 35 the shortest verse in the Bible Jesus wept That happens this season and we see it more than once.

So I think this is also something you might want to share with others for no other reason than to be able to pass tissues back and forth.

Now, there's joy, there's laughter, there's some great miracles, but this is a season that also increases in sadness, and I think it's good to watch it in community. Dallas, and by the way, folks, Dallas Jenkins, who's the creator and the director of The Chosen on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line today. Dallas, have you gotten, over the years, have you gotten letters from people or correspondence from people who maybe they weren't followers of Christ or maybe they were not Christian and they came to that relationship and they developed a relationship through watching the series? Oh, it's countless. We can't even, I honestly wouldn't be able to give you a number.

It's been so many over the years who've either said, I went from death to life. I am someone who did not believe, and now I do. And now I am immersed in Scripture or immersed in a church. People who maybe had church hurt or had bad experiences in their faith who are returning to the faith because of the show. We always make it very clear we're not a replacement for Scripture.

We are an entryway. We are a supplement to Scripture. But it has been amazing to see people change. And that's happened even within our own cast and crew. I mean, the majority of our cast and crew are not or have not been believers, and that's starting to change with some of them.

So that's been a beautiful thing. And what's also beautiful is to speak to what's happening right now in the Middle East. We are a Jewish show. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi. And that show has become abnormally popular for a Jesus project in Israel.

We are hearing from Israelis and from Orthodox or non-practicing Jews who are saying, I didn't understand or realize how Jewish of a story this is. We're seeing the prayers. We're seeing the traditions. We're seeing the synagogues. We're seeing the rituals in a Jesus project that we've never seen before.

And the answers to some of the conflict that existed 2,000 years ago that is now existing today are the same. And Jesus, the Prince of Peace, is the answer. And he doesn't care about an earthly kingdom. He's wanting this kingdom in our hearts. And so I think that the timing of this has also been beautiful to see.

Well, it's a pretty exciting thing that's going to be happening here. And Dallas, again, congratulations. And that to me is one of the most important things, is that people are coming to know Christ through the theatrical work that you guys are doing. And I just think that's remarkable. A final question here before we let you go.

Are you having fun with this? I don't know that I've had time to think about whether or not it's fun. I need to get better at that. But I think we've been so focused on the work and then focused on making sure that I'm a good husband and father throughout all of this, the travel and the energy that it requires. I think when I'm done with it, I'll be able to look back.

And, you know, my dad said this. I'll make this quick. My dad always likes to say he's written over 200 books. He says, I'm not sure that I love writing, but I love having written. And I feel the same way.

I'm not sure that I always love the process of doing this, but I love having done it and seeing the results and seeing the impact.

So I try to have fun with my family as much as possible, but sometimes I get a little too focused on the work itself. Look, I understand season four is done, but season five, just think here, you know, if you need a reporter like, you know, somewhere in one of the episodes, I'm available. Yeah, it might take us a little bit out of that Middle Eastern setting we're trying to portray as Todd Starnes in the middle of all that. I get it. Anytime you want to come to the set, we'll let you know.

Maybe we'll hide you in the background in a first century outfit. You're a good man. All right, Dallas Jenkins, season four of The Chosen coming up, folks, and it's going to be a lot of fun. Get information about the theatrical release over at thechosen.tv. Dallas, we're going to let you go.

Appreciate you. Thanks for having me on, Todd. All right, good man right there, folks. Dallas Jenkins, the creator and the director of The Chosen. And this is going to be pretty cool.

I mean, you get to go, and not only do you get to watch The Chosen, but you get your big old bucket of Orville Red Bopper of Bacher popcorn and a Baptist Martini, which is a Diet Coke with a wedge of lemon for all you Methodists out there. It's going to be a lot of fun. And again, you can get information over at thechosen.tv. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick break here. When we come back, more breaking news.

It is getting pretty nasty over in Lebanon. Also, President Trump speaking outside the courthouse. You know, they they tried to slap him with a gag order. That's not working out very well. And we're going to tell you more about that.

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So every now and again, somebody sends me something, and I thought I'd share this with you. This has been sort of a weird show. It's a fun show, but we're kind of bouncing around from topics today, and I think that's okay. And we've got to step back a little bit here, folks. I mean, we're on the brink of Lord knows what out there.

And so we've got to sort of chill out a little bit. And there was an interesting piece, a guy by the name of Jason Howerton, and he's got a pretty big following, a little over 100,000 people on his Twitter feed. And he's got a website, highvaluedad.com. I want to read this to you. Get your take on it.

Yesterday, my son was disrespectful to a teacher. It clearly hurt her feelings. It was unacceptable.

So this morning, I took my son by the hand, and we marched right into her classroom before school started. What I witnessed my young son do was enough to move a grown man to tears. I watched a five-year-old boy show more humility than our current leaders ever do. I am sorry that I hurt your feelings. I didn't think about what I was saying.

It happens sometimes at home, too. I'm sorry. And then he gave her a hug. I was speechless. It wasn't what he said.

It was the genuineness of his words to his teacher. He meant every word. I am so proud, and I let him know. We will never raise children who never make mistakes.

So instead, raise children who can take accountability and learn when they do. I think that's a pretty remarkable thing. Here you have a dad teaching his son a lesson, a life lesson, and hopefully a lesson this little boy will never forget. And maybe, just maybe, in the rough-and-tumble world of politics, maybe we all need just to step back for a second and understand what's at stake here. I know feelings are hurt up on Capitol Hill right now.

I get that. But we've got a lot more pressing issues than hurt feelings. And so if apologies need to be made, they need to be made. and let's handle the business in Washington. Let's be adults about it and let's move on.

If, in fact, we can do that. Otherwise, you're getting chaos. I mean, it really is that simple. It's chaos. All right, got to take a break here, folks.

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Let's go to the president. Today, I'm also announcing $100 million in new U.S. funding for humanitarian assistance in both Gaza and the West Bank. This money will support more than 1 million displaced and conflict-affected Palestinians, including emergency needs in Gaza. All right, this is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.

Here's Florida Governor Ron DeSantis just moments ago releasing a statement about this. Joe Biden just announced $100 million of your taxpayer dollars going to the Gaza Strip. They say it's humanitarian assistance. We know Hamas is going to commandeer that money, and Hamas is going to use it to advance terrorism. I say no U.S.

tax dollars to the Gaza Strip. We still have hostages being held by Hamas. There are American hostages being held by Hamas. How are you funding them when they're holding Americans as well as others hostage? I challenge every Republican running, step up to the plate, join me in opposing Biden's $100 million gift to Hamas.

All right, let's go to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line from the House Freedom Caucus and the great state of Arizona, our good friend Congressman Andy Biggs. Congressman, a lot to get to, but I want to get your reaction to this announcement. $100 million to a country that's still holding American hostages.

Well, it's absurd, of course, and it's not just absurd. It's almost, it should be impeachable, but let's think about this. this is the same guy that gave six billion dollars and hostages back to around for hostages that should have taught you that when you negotiate for hostages you will always lose and and for him to take our money our money and it's not even our money because we're going to have to borrow that money we're going to borrow that money and give it to basically a conduit pipeline to Hamas. That's really what's going to happen there. And it just shows that these guys have no clue as to the real world.

I'm with you. The man should be impeached. We've got American hostages being held, and we're giving these people money. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, and from what pocket is Is he taking that money?

It's not his pocket. It's going to be the pocket of the American people. And it's not even the American people who are adults and grown up. It's going to be children, grandchildren. He's adding to our national debt, our structural deficit, and giving it to, basically, to Hamas.

I mean, it's one of those things where you can't make it up. It's just too absurd. You would think this was on Babylon Bee, for Pete's sakes. Congressman Andy Biggs on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. And, Congressman, I want to move on to the news happening on Capitol Hill where Congressman Jordan, our good friend Jim Jordan, was not able to muster the vote.

So what happens next?

Well, in my opinion, he needs to do two things. He needs to be sitting down with those people and finding out what they're – and I know he's done this, but he needs to really push it over. He needs to meet with Steve Scalise, and whatever fences need to be mended, if any, they need to mend those fences so Steve will say, look, if you're voting for me, and there were seven votes for him last time, you need to vote for Jim Jordan. He needs to just nail it down with the New York delegation so they quit voting for Lee Zeldin and start voting for Jim Jordan. Perhaps Lee needs to call him and say, vote for Jordan.

I mean, I know they're good friends.

So he's really incredibly close. the forecast was that the spread would increase to at least 30 and it basically held steady right around 20 votes.

So it doesn't take a whole lot of those votes to swing around for Jim to become the next speaker.

So if we cannot get a vote, and do you expect another vote today? Yeah, there should be another vote today. We shouldn't delay this thing. We need to be moving.

Okay. Do you know that that is going to happen? No. Todd, we don't know. It's kind of being driven by a lot of different conductors on the car right now.

So I don't know. They haven't told us. You know I'm a rock-solid conservative here, Congressman, but we need to have a conversation with those fellow Republicans up there and say if they're going to pull the pin and throw the grenade, we really need a rock-solid plan before we do that?

Well, you know, it's impossible to have a rock-solid plan, Todd. What you can have is what's been happening. We knew that there would be several good candidates come forward. They did come forward. And I personally believe that some of these votes are targeted at me and Gates and the others, and they've aimed their gun at the wrong target because punishing Jim by not letting him become Speaker doesn't just punish Jim, it punishes the entire country.

And quite frankly, they're holding out. They're the ones that are violating the rules that they claim that we violate, which we didn't. But they are now in the territory where They're just holding out for we can't even tell what reasons they're giving. They're not even giving substantive reasons like, well, you know, Jim Jordan can't do this or that or the other thing. They're just holding out because they want to hold out.

So, Congressman, let's talk about another issue that's been discussed is that Patrick McHenry, who is the Speaker pro tem, There really are no rules that say he has to, you know, there's not an expiration date on this. And so there's been some suggestion that he could just stay on until, you know, the first of the year and really just or just become the de facto speaker. My concern is that that McHenry could advance and push through the fund, you know, Biden's funding agenda here.

well he could and that's why I oppose that because if you do anything of extension of powers to Patrick Henry because there is no time limit as you say then what you've done is you've created de facto it's a speaker so I view it as unconstitutional because you would not have done it by the procedure that gives you a speaker but the other thing is it becomes a coalition government with Democrats and a few Republicans.

So I don't know that that's going to happen. I talked to some people today on the floor who might otherwise not always be in my camp, you know, my echo chamber, and they were like, absolutely not. We're not going to do that. And the other thing I'll tell you, Todd, one reason that some people are talking about doing that, that takes the pressure off the holdouts. The pressure is building on the holdouts.

And the reality is if you remove that pressure valve and say we're going to release the pressure by having Patrick McHenry become the de facto speaker for the next 90 days, first of all, you'll be doing this again in 90 days. And second of all, then you won't get to a speaker right now because people will not vote. They'll say, well, I don't have to vote now.

So we've taken the pressure off.

So you can't take the pressure off.

So we are coming up on some deadlines here, right? I think we kicked the can down the road until what, sometime in November.

So what happens if we do not have a speaker by November?

Well, I believe we're going to. But I will tell you what else should happen is we should immediately be, and the Appropriations Committee could go ahead and meet and finish those last two bills. that they didn't get done on time. We need to get those eight bills done and over to the Senate like tomorrow.

So as soon as we do get a speaker, and I'm hopeful that it will be sooner rather than later, we need to go 24-7 until we get the rest of those eight bills done, get them over to the Senate. And if we get them to the Senate by the end of October, the Senate will have three weeks to consider and do what they're going to do. And that means, hopefully, that you don't have to do a CR. All right. We'll leave it there.

A lot of unknowns. By the way, we are hearing, we just had Congressman Pat Fallon on. He's saying multiple people are mentioning names like Congressman Mark Green, Mike Johnson, in the event that things don't work out with Congressman Jordan. Are you hearing the same? I think it's way too early to say that because Jim is with, you know, It really takes two blocks of those people that are holding out, two blocks of those votes, and they're voting in blocks.

If he takes those two blocks and turns them around, he becomes a speaker.

So I think it's too early to start saying somebody else. I've heard all kinds of names. And by the way, Todd, within probably two hours of the motion to vacate going through, I had received, I think, a total of six or seven people who were potential candidates, including some of the ones that you're talking about. Wow. All right.

Well, we're paying very close attention here.

So there's a possibility we could see another vote today.

So Jim Jordan's not really ready to throw in the towel. And I think a lot of people are glad to hear that. Yeah, he's not going to throw in the towel. I don't think so. All right, good stuff.

All right, Congressman, really appreciate your time today. Thanks, Todd. Appreciate it. All right, Congressman Andy Biggs out of Arizona on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. All right, folks, we've got to take a quick break.

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All right, let's go to the phones here. 844-747-8868. Lee in North Carolina. What's on your mind? Hey, Todd.

How are you doing? I'm well. Thank you for asking. What's going on?

Well, I know you've been talking. I know I talked to you several months ago about the term create and how it only applies to God, but you're still using it. I'm really not quite sure. I'm not following you here, Lee. What are you talking about?

Oh, I'm talking about, well, there are two things that I wanted to bring up today. Real quick, Lee, let's get to it.

Okay. God is the only one who can create, and when you die, you're dead. You don't exist anymore until Christ returns, and those are the two primary things I wanted to talk about. Lee, you talked about him. Thank you for calling.

844-747-8868 is our telephone number. That's 844-747-8868. You know, the guy's busted my chops here because we mentioned that Dallas Jenkins was the creator of the Chosen series. Really? Come on, folks.

We've got more pressing issues. By the way, may I just say, God bless this guy running for office in Canada. His name is Pierre Paul of your he's French, but that's OK. He's a cool guy. He's eating an apple.

And this guy is a conservative and and he gets it. He's a common sense conservative and they're having a rough go of it north of the border. I mean, these people are woke out the wazoo and a left wing journalist is interviewing the guy trying to trying to bait him, you know, and the candidate's eating an apple and he doesn't stop eating the apple. This is great stuff. Cut 13.

On the topic, I mean, in terms of your sort of strategy currently, you're obviously taking the populist pathway. What does that mean?

Well, appealing to people's more emotional levels, I would guess. I mean, certainly you tap very strong ideological language quite frequently. Like what? left wing, you know, this and that, right wing, I mean, it's that type of ideological thing. I never really talk about left or right.

I don't really believe in that. A lot of people would say that you're simply taking a page out of the Donald Trump book. Like which people would say that?

Well, I'm sure a great many Canadians, but... Like who? I don't know who, but...

Well, you're the one who asked the question, so you must know somebody.

Okay. I'm sure there's some out there, but anyways, the point of this question is, I mean, why should Canadians trust you with their vote, given not just the sort of ideological inclination in terms of taking the page of Donald Trump's book, but also... What are you talking about? What page? What page?

Can you give me a page? Give me the page. You keep saying that. In terms of turning things quite dramatically in terms of Trudeau and the left wing and all of this, I mean, you make quite a, you know, it's quite a play that you make on it.

So I'm just wondering. I don't know what your question is.

Okay, then forget that. Why should Canadians trust you with their vote? Common sense. Common sense for a change. We're going to make common sense common in this country.

We don't have any common sense in the current government. You know, the guy prints $600 billion, grows our money supply by 32%, in three years. That's growing the money eight times faster than the economy. No wonder we have the worst inflation in four decades. I'm going to cap spending, cut waste so that we can balance the budget and bring down inflation and interest rates.

You'll want to be able to pay your mortgage again. You want to be able to afford rent. Then you have to vote for Pierre Polyev because I'm the only one with a common sense plan that will bring back the buying power of your paycheck. Wow. Can we get some of those people over on our side of the border?

Is that possible? What a brilliant takedown. And this is how you deal with the left-wing media, folks. This is how you do it. By the way, I am just so excited about what's happening at the University of Pennsylvania right now.

And we're going to get we're going to do a deeper dive into this tomorrow. But we're talking about dozens of high dollar donors. We're talking about billionaires. They've been donating tens of millions of dollars to UPenn. And they have pulled their financial support because University of Pennsylvania has embraced the Palestinians.

And it has nothing to do, ironically, it has nothing to do with what happened with the Hamas terrorist attack. It turns out last month, these idiots at UPenn actually hosted a Palestine literature festival. And some of the speakers were saying the most vile and terrible things about Jews. And you've got folks like one of the heirs of the Estee Lauder, the makeup people, the Lauders, that Lauder group. Yeah, anyway, that family, they're pulling their money.

You've got Dick Wolf, who created the Law and Order series. He's pulling his money. And this is fantastic.

Now, the university is standing by the president, and they're saying, well, you know, we have an obligation. We have an obligation here at UPenn to provide a platform for horrifying opinions that we may not necessarily agree with here at the University of Pennsylvania, an Ivy League school.

Well, I hate to break this to you, but do you really think that's true? Do you really think the people at the University of Pennsylvania would, say, host a writing festival for KKK members? Do you really think they would do that? Or do you think they would host a writing festival for, oh, what's another? Oh, white heterosexual Christian males?

Well, how dare you, sir? How dare you? We at the University of Pennsylvania, we are an open-minded people. but we will not tolerate racism oh is that where you draw the line now okay i see but but it's okay to have your students marching through the street saying kill the jews that's what you're saying you know what i hope every every single donor pulls their funding from every anti-semite university in the country well we gotta run we'll do it again tomorrow