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844-204-Rich is the number to dial. Daniel Jeremiah is first up. We're back from Indianapolis. We'll close the books on the combine and hit the latest stories going on in the National Football League. George Raveling is in studio. A goat, you know, is in studio. He's got a new book called What You're Made For. The longtime coach and also Michael Jordan Sherpa will be here in studio to chop that up.
And the Defensive Player of the Year, Patrick Sertan II, will be joining us as well. And there's you at 844-204-Rich. Number to dial. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. How are you? Hey, Rich. I'm great. What's up, man? Good to see you, Jay Felley, back here again. Good to see you. TJ Jefferson candle appears to be lit over there.
It's lit. How's everybody doing today? We're good.
We're good. So in the 10-plus year history of this show, there's a certain story that keeps coming up over and over again, like a mad lib with a different proper name of the player involved and the team involved. The league is the National Football League and the story, the narrative where you just change the names is the name of a quarterback that Chris Brockman feels isn't deserving of the money that he's getting.
Just because in the NFL, the way it works is when you play well at the quarterback position in your first contract and your second contract is up, it is now your turn to get paid generational amounts of money, if not the most money in the league as the market keeps going up and up and up. Am I correct in that sort of assumption right there, Christopher? Yeah, you need to earn what you get paid, Rich.
I don't think that's a novel idea. You've been grinding that axe. You have been, for the literary folk out there, tilting at that windmill.
Non-stop. I just called you the Don Quixote of the Rich Lawson show. I'll take it.
Very good. So for this fact, Chris Brockman needs a hero and in order to reset the market and or a quarterback test case. Number of times we've been talking about, will a team eventually tell the quarterback that has done very well for them in the first contract, not enough to pay you generational amounts of money, dare I say turning their quarterback into Luka Doncic saying, we will just cut bait with you at age 25 because we're concerned about fill in the blank. Again, it's a mad lib.
In the case of Luka, it's like drinking and not taking care of your body. We don't want to give you the supermax. Is there a quarterback out there? And I believe Christopher speaking for you again.
Thank you. You have identified the latest test case for you and his name is Brock Purdy. The guy who has chosen the last pick in the draft of his draft and then performing very well. But for a very talented team, we're just rolling footballs out. Is it the coach?
Is it the scheme? Yada, yada, yada. We had Steve Young on Monday. Had no idea that we would be front-loading this conversation when we had it with him. But I asked him his thoughts on the Brock Purdy, as we say in the sports TV radio business, situation. You know, situations are very large.
Covers a lot. You know, I guess cauldron in which you can place everything like a contract and a negotiation and his past work and whether he's deserving of it. That's the situation because we all know when you talk in Jersey Shore, the top of the market, we are not well done. It's $60 million set by this man's team's ownership, Jerry Jones. He will not set the coaching market. No, no, no. That he will not do.
That is his red line. He will go into the ownership room and say, you are spending too much on coaches who do not work for you anymore. Look at how much money we're wasting as a collective group of members. But paying your quarterback 60 mil, I'll do that.
Sure. He got short arms and deep pockets when it comes to the coaches. And how many of his members might actually, you know, fellow members look at him and say, oh, you don't want to be overspent on coaches, but thanks for resetting the quarterback market, Jerry.
So we spoke to Steve Young about the situation and this is what he had to say. The game today is dominated. The prototype is the guys that are winning the Super Bowls, the guys that can throw it all over the field, run all over the field, get all the free first downs, all the touchdowns that are out there with their legs. They press every play. Even if they don't use their legs every play, they threaten every play. It is the NFL today. So if Brock is 80% of that, you know what I mean?
Like he can threaten, he can move around, he can do all the things you do and he can process as well as anybody. So in that way, quarterbacks are so hard to find that Brock has done enough for sure to go out and get paid and get it done. Now, back to my original point, I don't know that it's going to be smooth. How could it be smooth, right? Because there's going to be, you know, Brock's people are going to want $60 million a year and the 49er, I'm just making this up, the 45, whatever it is, and there's just going to be some back and forth. But I guess just hold on to that thought I gave you earlier about the, I don't know, the spirit of what ownership and what, you know, general managers and even Kyle are thinking about and the rigor about how they're going to handle some of it. So I, it'll get done, but I don't know how fast it'll get done.
Ah, says it won't be smooth. And you mentioned doesn't know what the Niners are going to offer and he threw out the number 45. Oh, interesting. That's what Steve said on Monday. And then on Tuesday night, our, our buddy, my longtime colleague at the NFL network information man in the national football league for many years, Jason Lock and for tweeted out 49ers playing hardball with Purdy is very on brand starting your offers at 45 million a year is something the franchise tag for quarterbacks is 40 and they're offering Purdy. Who's making 5.1 this year.
Hmm. Let me do the math. The franchise tag plus what he's already making and a hundred thousand dollars for the effort, 45 million. And does this mean the Niners are attempting to reset the market, which would be somewhat ironic Chris, because if I had to name the top five people that you think do not deserve the kudos that he gets in the national football league, in the history of this show that you pound the drum, it would be one of those on that list, Kyle Shanahan. And it does appear that he's part of the team that on this front, on this subject matter on this grinding acts of yours is the hero you've been waiting for. Did I just become a 49er fan? Look at you over there. Look at you over there. Again, I've been saying this for years.
You don't have to do it. You don't have to pay someone the max just because they're up next when they haven't done it and earned it with their play on the field. Now Brock Purdy has taken them to a Super Bowl. He's also been hurt. He's also had a maxed out superstar roster around him and a coach that everyone seems to really think is a smart guy.
So we'll see. Well, yeah, but like what you just said, earned it. The goal is to get to and win the Super Bowl. And he's put them in the position to do that. He sure has. He sure has. Unlike a lot of quarterbacks who haven't come close to doing what this guy has, if you're going to say someone has earned it, you've got to kind of look at Brock and say, you've earned it.
That's correct. Jimmy Garoppolo took them to the exact same place. And where's he right now? Jimmy Garoppolo overshot somebody to try and win a Super Bowl. I don't really like the narrative that that was a bad throw. Dude, it hit his fingertips. Excuse me. And also, Purdy had them in the red zone in overtime of a Super Bowl in which they did not win.
Did they get a touchdown? Listen, as always, you've got to go inside the numbers here. The Niners for 2025, currently they're cap figures. The one making the most is Fred Warner at $29.2 million. Kittle's making $22 million. Trent Williams, $21 million. Nick Bosa, $20 million. They just got rid of Deebo's $16 million. McCaffrey, believe it or not, has a cap figure this year of $9.4 million. I'm wondering if he's looking at what Saquon just hit yesterday and might be raising his hand.
I don't know. And then you look at the cap, as I mentioned, franchise tagged figure of this year, 40. Next one, apparently, unless these numbers change, $41 million. And the year after that is $51 million.
So you're saying to Purdy, listen, you're making five this year. We're willing to give you another 40. And then if you're going to be a little obstinate on this front, we'll franchise tag you at 41 next year, which is less than what we're giving you now.
And then we can franchise tag you the year after that. And that's $51 million. Add it up, Brock.
And that's more than 5.1. And guess what? You want to talk about a three-year deal? Maybe we'll throw a little bit more scratch than that average on the table.
And now you're in the fifties. You say no to that? Like that may be their approach here. And interesting enough, if they basically say we can franchise tag you, and this is how much you can make, and we're willing to give you a little bit more of it right now. So we have cap flexibility for you, and we can get more weapons for you. And not only that, you get the guarantees as opposed to going year to year. But if they're taking the approach where we can go year to year with you and we're comfortable with that, and also that shows potentially a little bit of a bet hedge on his abilities. The irony of this is the nonstop chatter that we've heard since Kyle Shanahan took the gig in San Francisco is that you've got to find yourself your next Kirk Cousins.
Or maybe the genuine article, right? How many times our next guest, Daniel Jeremiah, says if you're in the Shanahan or McVeigh system, you must pay fealty to Kirk Cousins, right? How many times have you made that joke?
You bow down. Name me the last quarterback who the team said, we'll go franchise tagging year to year to year with you because that's all we're willing to do on various fronts financially, as well as our hedge of a bet with your abilities. Who's the last quarterback who had that happen to him? Oh, first team financial hall of famer, Kirk Cousins. Yeah. So it looks like they've really landed on their Kirk Cousins after all. If this is in fact the hard ball, like again, Lock and Four is saying it's 45 out of the gate. Yeah.
You may have gotten the hero you've been looking for right now, Chris. It's not like, okay, Dak made 60. 60.1, sold. Let's go. Market's been reset by Jerry Jones. We're fine with that. Let's go. You're the next $60 million a year quarterback, Brock, because it's your turn.
Doesn't appear to be what you're doing. You don't have to do it. Oh, John Lynch, you beautiful SOB. You just want to go up to Santa Clara and give him a hug? Just want to give him a big old hug. I wonder if Brock feels the same way. Pat on the back. Because now you're in Brock Purdie's pockets.
I'm sure he's got something to say to you. Oh, really? If I offered you a 9x raise, would you take it? 9x. As opposed to?
As opposed to 1x or 0. You're checking what you got. I know.
I thought maybe he might be like, on the other hand, there's a 15x. We'll let you play it out. And guess what? The 5 million you're making this year and a 41 that you'd be franchise tagged for next year is 1 million less than we're willing to give you right now.
You're leaving scratch on the table. Is that their approach with Brock Purdie? Or they're not really sold. You heard what Steve Young had to say. I think they're sold, but not to the tune of what Jerry did with Dak. You know? And remember it was like a two year log jam after the Browns gave every guaranteed dollar to Deshaun Watson, which created problems, if I'm not mistaken, due to just my memory here, created issues with the Cardinals and Kyler, right? For a little bit. Yep.
Messed with that. Like the Cardinals are like, yeah, just because every single dollar was guaranteed by Jimmy Haslam doesn't mean we have to do it. And then Lamar was next and then Hertz was next. Right. And then not all of them did the guaranteed dollars, but they got, they got there. Herbert, Lawrence, Tua. And then Jerry finally acted the day before or the day of the season last year. I think all those guys have won Super Bowl and that's Jalen Hertz. You got your hero, Chris.
It looks like it's materializing in San Francisco. John Lynch. And Steve Young was right. It's not going to be smooth, but it will get done. You and I both know this. It will get done, but that number might be start with a four. It might be fours. I don't think so. It'll start with a five. It will start with a five. They'll get that up.
Don't meet in the middle. They'll figure that out. Might not be for more than three years. Might be, you know.
Does he get more guaranteed money than we think Stafford is going to get from the Rams? Oh, I think so. Yeah.
Okay. I do believe so. We'll see.
844204 Rich is the number to dial. Meanwhile, the Chiefs who left the Super Bowl, wondering if Travis Kelce was going to play for him. Travis chimed in on that front today, officially on the new heights pod. He is coming back.
We'll play those sound bites for you later on. But the other sense was, boy, they're just going to have to 1 million percent bolster that offensive line. And they franchise tagged Trey Smith, not letting him go walk, but they traded Joe tuning today to the bears and for a fourth round pick in the 2026 draft, which is what we said yesterday to save them $10 million in cap. And now the bears trade a fourth round pick in next year's draft for tuning and a sixth round pick in this year's draft to the Rams for J Jonah Jackson. I added the first J and uh, and the bears are the ones hitting their offensive line and the chiefs slept. One of their best guys go like he was the savior of the, of the line when they were dealing with left tackle issues. He's like, I'll play a position that I'm not, you know, used to playing and get, go out there. So shrug emoji here.
That's why we've got Daniel Jeremiah joining us next to not only break down the combine, but to tell us interpret for us what is happening in a, your NFL news stack DJ next. This is the rich eyes and show at the Hyundai getaway sales event, get deals. So right.
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I'm playing Tetris on my phone every day. Okay. So you know, so you know it.
So then when you know, when you play it over and over and over again and they close your eyes, you still see the blocks falling. Yes. Right.
Okay. That's the way it is with the combine with me covering the combine for as long as we sit on TV. I close my eyes and I see like a 40 I see a vert. I see a broad jump.
I see a wave drill. Daniel, Jeremiah, do you have the same thing happen to you after we're coming to combine together? That happened to you? Yeah. Yeah. That's, uh, that's fair.
Like you, you go to bed, you go to bed and now instead of just images of the combine, now I can hear the grunting, the 40 yard grunts, uh, startles you kind of wakes you up in the middle of the night a little bit. Who was the one who grunted from start to finish? Which one was that? It was the Missouri guy.
No, no, no. Membu did it last. You, you, you made like a Monica Celis reference on night one, right? It was a defensive lineman. I forget who it was. He, we honestly saying bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite guy. Remember that guy who's biting from the beginning, right?
Yeah. It was a, it's a new thing. We've saw it with a, with a couple of different guys going through it and it's not just like that one. It was like the rhythmic grunts. Um, as you were kind of going through, never, never seen it before. I did reach out on one of them.
I think it was a member because I reached out to do commanding whether we was training and I said, is, is this training technique? Like, is this like a new, he said, no, it's just his personality. Okay. Okay.
Well, I guess like, um, w we can do this now. We can ask, uh, identify the, the runner by his grunt, right? Yeah, that was Membu. Yeah, that was Membu. Yep. Yep. There you go.
That's fantastic. It's the new metric, Daniel. Right? Like, there's a red flag is grunts. Not loud enough. You know what I mean?
It was a, it was a four grunt four nine one. Oh my gosh. That was so funny. Back on the rich eyes and show radio network. I'm sitting at the rich eyes and show desk furnished by Grange with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you.
Call click ranger.com or just stop by my buddy Daniel Jeremiah. Cause I can't quit him after 21 plus live hours of TV at the combine. Let's hang out here on the rich eyes and show. Good to see you again, DJ. Good to see you buddy. I, I, you gave me homework for this show. You do this every now and then you gave me some, some homework to do. So I've done some chiefs homework since you sent off the assignment.
Let's, let's start that one off here because help help folks understand that a team that clearly had offensive line issues, losing the super bowl to the Eagles who didn't blitz once. Right? So it's not like they were overloaded on the chief's upfront to try and protect my homes.
Why would they trade away? Joe Tooney, Daniel? All right. Yeah. So this is a great question and I'm just going to try and lay this out here.
This is not, this is not if you're a chief's fan, this is not them removing resources from the offensive line and redistribute them somewhere else. Okay. I, I, this is part of a plan and it's just me looking at it and going through all the numbers and everything there.
So let's start with this. You got five guys to start, right? So they have Creed Humphrey at center. It's 25 years old. They've got Trey Smith at right guard who they just franchised and I would imagine we'll get an extension done with him.
He is 25 years old. And then they have Juwan Taylor at right tackle who's 27 years old. So we've got three spots taken care of center all the way out to right tackle. Now they did have a hole at left tackle, but obviously Tooney had you had you covered at guard.
So they trade tuning. So now you've got two spots open. Well, here's why Joe Tooney is 32 years old. He's got one year left at 15.5 million. They decide if we're going to keep him, we're going to have to extend it. We're not going to let him go into the last year of his deal. So now we're going to extend him out and we're going to have some risk on us on the back end of this deal. Whereas we have two different options we can go with in the free agency market here, we can go find a younger guard and who might be maybe is a little bit lesser player right now than Joe Tooney, but we think the contract would age better.
And I'll give you some names. Aaron Banks is 27 years old will freeze from from the Colts 27 back then who they just played in the Super Bowl is 26. So that could be an option, just a one for one swap, we would have to extend Joe Tooney. Well, let's just give a longer contract to a younger player with the hope that that will age better playing with a group of those other three linemen who are really solid and really young, or, and this one makes the most sense to me, Rich, the tackle draft is not deep, we just saw it, you know, member is going to be long gone.
Will Campbell is going to be long gone. In free agency, there's Ronnie Stanley, who's 31. Ronnie Stanley stayed healthy last year played well, if you go that route, now you just take those resources, we get the left tackle, we have that which was a major need for them. We solve that. And now we can find, you know, we can find that left guard in the second tier of free agency and get by or we could find, you know, a guard and interior offensive lineman on day two of the draft.
That would be that would be sufficient there. So I just think people are looking at going man, the offensive line got their butts kicked. Why are they not only you know, they're subtracting, they're not adding well, they haven't had a chance to add yet, they're going to mix this thing around, they've got two spots to fill. And I think they'll use the draft in free agency to do it.
All right. That's why we have you on here to fit these puzzle pieces in a manner that's confusing otherwise. What about the bears what you're seeing out of them hitting their line for Caleb Williams? DJ, what do you think about that? Well, I always think when you bring in players in free agency or in trades, your odds of hitting on players is much greater when you have experience either they have experience in the scheme, or you have experience within the organization that know the player really really well. So when you go out and get Jonah Jackson, who has experience with your head coach, that's that's beneficial. He's been in this offense, we know what he looks like in this offense. Joe Tooney Ryan polls was there when they when they selected him. So he's been around Joe Tooney, obviously, Joe Tooney's play speaks for itself. You know what you're getting there, you know, who he is a person what he's going to be in the locker room.
So you start there. And then the other thing is this was, you know, this was their glaring need. If you watch the bears last year, if we're going to get a fair evaluation of Caleb Williams, that has to be upgraded. So not only have you already done that before free agency even starts, you've now freed yourself up a little bit in both free agency and the draft.
Because, you know, you don't want to be in a situation where you have just this glaring need where you've got to grossly overpay in terms of what you're going to give a free agent or you're reaching for somebody with that 10th overall pick. Now it frees up some new names there, Rich. You know, Ashton Gente now to me is legitimately in the conversation there if you're the Bears. You think about that. Just think about those three young guys with a dunes. They obviously still have D.J.
Moore. But let's just go with the rookies last year. A dunes, a Caleb Williams. And now all of a sudden the next year you throw Ashton Gente in there.
That can be a fun, fun trio to grow with. So Gente would be the Gibbs of this offense if to use the Lions template in Chicago. Is that what he would be? Yeah, I think he's almost you know, it's he's not a one for one comp there with Gibbs. I think Gibbs has a little bit more top in speed.
I think Gente has more power. But yeah, he's going to be your your back. He's going to be your guy who's going to hit home runs for you and is you know, he can he can be that guy for them going forward. Also, I know you've got Cole Komet, but if you want to stylistically have some fun, what if you threw Tyler Warren in there and you're out there with two tights and you've got Tyler Warren Cole Komet with D.J.
Moore and Roma dunes. That's you can have some fun creatively with that package as well. And now, you know, without having that glaring, glaring need, maybe you're in a situation where you trade back and you could completely rebuild the interior of your offensive line. What if you just trade back a few spots? You take Gray Zabel from North Dakota State and you throw him at center. And now you have completely rebuilt the interior of that offensive line in front of Caleb Williams.
I love it. There's now pieces that we can associate with who we saw at the Combine to try and figure out how teams can remake themselves here in 2025. Daniel Jeremiah on the Rich Eisen Show. Normally, when you come on after the Combine, we have a better sense of of how you value guys at the top of the draft and the top of the draft board. But taking a look at your top 10 of your top 50 coming into the Combine, only two of them worked out.
So I don't know how to evaluate. That said, are you changing anything coming out of Indianapolis in any way, shape or form? Daniel is not going to be too much changed. As I look at that list right there with those players, again, what is not much to change off of?
You know, maybe some measurables that you didn't know. Jalen Walker a little bit shorter than you'd hoped. Will Campbell with the arm length was a discussion. How about the medical on Carter? How about that? Yeah. Daniel, I didn't I don't I didn't talk to teams that were too overly concerned there.
You know, there were the two options. You can kind of rest it and then still go through the process in the spring or you could have the surgery. And I kind of inquired, you know, hey, does if he has the surgery, is that, you know, now it's obviously a longer recovery. Is that a major issue?
And it sounds like that's a little more commonplace than maybe I thought. So I didn't I didn't gather there was a ton of concern there with him. But, you know, he goes to his pro day.
We'll see what that looks like. I you know, if he comes out of that looking good and feeling good, I think he's he's not going to move on my list. So then where what is the the word that you're hearing, I guess, about the top picks and where things might land coming out of Indianapolis that might be different having come into Indianapolis?
Daniel? I mean, yeah, I not a ton with the Tennessee Titans. You know, there's not from inside Tennessee, but outside there seems to be they would love to get out of there, you know, and not fall too far, you know, to stay in range of those top few prospects.
And that's, you know, teams aren't saying it. But that to me sounds like the Giants, you know, the Giants and the Browns would be the two teams maybe to try and just the little baby jump up there to the number one pick to get Cam Ward. But nothing really in terms of what Tennessee where they were leaning if they were to stick and pick.
So, I mean, that's that's still up for grabs. And I know we had we had Sean Payton on. I think Peter had interviewed Sean Payton and he was talking about last year with, you know, with Bo Nix. And shoot, they didn't they weren't locked in and zeroed in on him until after the private workout, not even the pro day.
So I think there's still some time here before we get a good feeling on where teams are leaning in. It's certainly for the quarterback front. And, you know, didn't take long for an unnamed coach to slag on a player coming out of the combine. And, you know, knowing Deion and the Sanders family, as long as I have, you could you could have pegged Chidor as being, you know, in those figurative crosshairs, Daniel, and not to drag you in a mosh pit here, but the conversation about him being brash, arrogant or not as involved in certain conversations and in meeting rooms with teams. What did you hear about that?
Anything you want to chime in on this front, Daniel? Yeah, I didn't hear anything in that way. You know, the the thing I heard from teams that met with him at the East West, because he was at the East West game and a lot of teams got a chance to visit with him. Everybody that I talked to that visited with him there enjoyed being around him and said he had a good energy about him. Obviously, he's confident in who he is, what he's accomplished. And I'd rather I'd rather I'd rather not have to instill confidence in my quarterback.
I'll put it that way. So I have no problem with that. The teams I talked to that had talked to him there didn't really have any issues there. So I haven't talked to anybody that interviewed him at this combine recently to get any feedback.
And that was that was all the stuff that I had from from when he was in Dallas at the East West. So then let's stick to the tape then. If you're hearing somebody say they don't even have him in the first round, would you would you agree that he's even borderline on that front or you're you would you would disagree with that assessment? I think this is the statement. And I've I've talked about this all through the combine about this being a starter's not star's draft. Right. So there's certain players you can say, you know, we can drop them in any of the 32 buildings and it's going to be fine. We've had years like that. I think those three quarterbacks, those top three quarterbacks we had last year, Rich, you know, I had big grades on those guys and I thought, you know, they're going to be they're going to be able to make it work no matter what offensive system you want to run, no matter what environment that you're in.
I thought those were kind of universal talents. I don't think this year it's the case. That's why I've said fit is more important.
So it doesn't surprise me. It's not just like should do or it's going to be other players at other positions. This is a fit draft.
This is finding guys that fit what you do. Should or fit certain teams and certain offenses and in certain environments. I think he's got a chance to be a successful starter, but it's going to be other places where they might say, yeah, you know what? He doesn't, you know, he's not physical enough. He's not doesn't have maybe the arm or the physicality to play in, you know, like the, you know, the Cleveland would be an interesting one with him in the AFC North.
It's kind of a rugged division. So, you know, I could see, OK, maybe somebody from there wouldn't be as high on him as they would on someone like Cam Ward, who's just got a little more, you know, he's got a little more life on the ball, a little more power. So you know, that's the what I'm getting at is I don't I don't read too much into it when some team says we don't have him as a first rounder.
Well, he doesn't fit what you do. So that doesn't mean he's not a great fit for three or four other teams. So then let's look at the top of the draft. Which one do you think is the best fit for for Chidor that you think is quarterback needy or two teams? The two teams that I like just in terms of stylistically, I like the Raiders at six and I like the Saints at nine.
Why? Just just in terms of how that first of all, they both play indoors, which I love. He does not have to have a huge, huge arm. It's timing, it's accuracy, it's precision. You look at the, you know, the Saints inside that division, who they're playing, where they're playing.
I think that works. I think Kellen Moore, you know, everybody looks at what he did last year. Kellen Moore is always going to morph around who who he has and what he has. I think if you look at what he did in Dallas with Dak in the past game, I think you could do a lot of those things with kind of a pure passer like Chidor and, you know, Kellen Moore, his whole career was was, you know, as a player was, you know, anticipation, accuracy, efficiency.
So I could see him appreciating the strengths of Chidor. Which quarterback helped himself? Let's talk about kids who actually worked out. Which quarterback helped himself on Saturday? Yeah, I would say the two that right off the top, I thought Jackson Dart was able to throw the ball well. I thought it came out well. He did a nice job, had a good workout.
I mean, C.J. Stroud's kind of the gold standard. We talked about that from the from the combine performances we've seen over the last decade. It wasn't there. It wasn't at that level.
But it was really solid. He was my third quarterback coming into the combine and he left the combine just watching him throw live. I felt comfortable with having him in that spot right there. And then Tyler Shuck, who's a little bit older, but, you know, big, strong. He's kind of made for that. You know, if this is if the combine throwing session is almost like the driving range, you know, he's he can he's impressive. He's impressive at the driving range. He's big and strong.
And and he's really got a live arm. So those are the two that stood out the most to me with Kyle McCord being another one who is who is intriguing with the way he spun the ball. OK, and which teams do you think are on the back end of the draft that might go ahead and get their quarterback of the future while already having a bridge? Any anybody that you think is looking for front loading the future right now that might when you and I are sitting there with our colleagues on the first night in Green Bay, go, whoa, OK, there we go.
What do you think? Yeah, this this wouldn't necessarily be at the backpacking because I think they're more in the middle of the draft. The team that that you're a little, you know, little chirping about is like, hey, don't sleep on them. If something were to slide or if, you know, Seattle could be a sneaky team, you know, they could be a quarterback team. So that was one that kind of, you know, it's interesting to me.
You think about Geno's not young. You know, that would make sense that, you know, they've got a coach coming into his second year, Coach McDonald trying to identify someone if if if it fell to him or if it got close, maybe that's a that's one of those quarterback teams that we necessarily haven't been thinking of. And then who's the guy that made you go back or you're putting a list together of I got to go check the tape based on what I saw in Indianapolis? Who's at the top of that list for you, Daniel?
Well, there's a couple of guys. Malachi Starks is is a really, really good player who I had kind of in the bottom first. I think he's made my thirty first thirty third player somewhere around there. Safety out of Georgia, who didn't make as many plays this year. And then if you look at the testing, he ran four or five flat, which is good, but not, you know, not a great time.
His shuttle drills were not great, but his field workout was phenomenal. And then on top of that, I talked to the teams that met with him and said, like, off the charts intelligence, like this guy understands football in a big way, which at the safety position is incredibly important. So he made more plays when he was younger. So he's one of those guys like, OK, I'm gonna go back and watch some twenty three tape and and and see him and see him get a chance to get his hands on the football a little bit more. But he's going to move up for me, definitely. And staying in the secondary, Trey Amos, the corner from Ole Miss with the only question really was his speed. He's a really good player. And then he ran, I want to say, four four three is what he ran. So, OK, that's that's that's worthy of another peak there to see if I can get him in my top fifty. OK, just because, you know, you're you know, I got in trouble with my son Cooper by calling him 13.
And then he texted me, no, I'm 14 now, dad. You had fun with that one. So Cooper twice, by the way, twice, one on one off air. That's true. That's our group.
I didn't want to know. So my 14 year old Cooper Eisen, who is a diehard Patriots fan, you know, Chris, he targeted for the Patriots, not not, you know, at the top of the draft. He wants Jaden Higgins. He's the one who would Higgins be a good fit for New England, do you think? Yeah, I'm a Higgins.
I'm a Higgins guy. He's got and we said it when when he was running and working out, he has a little bit of Nico Collins to him, you know, just that kind of power forward can go up and get it. He's he's pretty good getting in and out of breaks for a bigger wide receiver. Ran well, his teammate. Tell him, go ahead and see if you get a package deal too, because Jalen Knoll was he had a phenomenal workout.
He was awesome. So why not? Why not bring a couple cyclones up to the Patriots? We can make some noise up there. There you go. Before I let you go, Daniel, a couple of quarterback driven headlines I want to hit you on.
And that is the non franchise tagging of Sam Darnold. You interpret that to say to do what? What do you make of that, Daniel? Well, the J.J. McCarthy era is about to kick off. That's that's the takeaway there. I just think if he gets to the market and he sounds like he is going to get to the market, I don't think Minnesota would have let it get to that point if they were if they were going to really, really try and make that happen. So to me, I would I would guess that Sam Darnold's probably moving on, probably done in Minnesota. And that's going to be the first domino to actually fall. Right. Because Stafford didn't go anywhere.
So that doesn't change the chess board. And now all of a sudden, Sam Darnold lands somewhere. Now, now we get some movement. And now I think that's kind of like the he's the leadoff hitter in free agency. He sure is.
That's what that's what kind of gets everything going. So then who who who do you think would take him? Where do you peg him?
What are the spots for him? I mean, I think, you know, does Sam want to go back to the New York market? I don't know that he would. But I would think the Giants would be in on that. I would think that the Pittsburgh Steelers would be an option, depending on if they were to get something done with fields. It sounds like from everything Ian says and everything I've heard that would be fields over Russell Wilson there. So that's, you know, but that maybe Sam Darnold gets involved there. I lob this tweet out, which, you know, a lot of the Colts fans didn't appreciate, I guess. But I was like, hey, if you're the Colts and we talked to Shane Steichen in our booth and they said they want to bring in some competition, I think everybody kind of assumes like that's, you know, that's kind of maybe a flier on some veteran.
But if Sam Darnold gets to the market, I would have a hard time arguing that Anthony Richardson gives him a better chance to win next year than Sam Darnold would. So that would be one that I would maybe keep an eye on. OK. And then lastly, our friend Jason Lock and Forer from back in the day tweeted out that he's here in the Niners first offer to Purdie's $45 million and that they're playing hardball with him.
How would you translate this? I think to me at some point in time that, you know, the numbers are going to get thrown around. We'll see what gets out publicly. I think it's in the interest of the player and the team to get it worked out. And I to me, Kyle just loves him so much and has not been shy about it.
And he can operate what he wants exactly how he wants. I would imagine that that's, you know, this thing's going to get done. I'd be I'd be pretty confident that they'll they'll find some common ground there. What that number looks like. If that gets to, you know, maybe it's 50, a little over 50.
I don't think he's going to reset the market there at 60. But, you know, I to me, it's just it makes too much sense. It's such a good fit. Just just figure it out. How are you going to get it done? But by the sound of it, with you potentially being on the trademark, we got to get some more receivers in here.
Rich, we got to find some guys for him to throw to DJ. Really appreciate your two cents. As always, you're truly the best. I love sitting next to you on the combine. The two of us just have a blast. You make it so easy and fun. Well, you're you're you are the best.
I'm just mad at you for one reason. You never told me that you had an acting gig. I found out from my wife and she's watching the show and running a phenomenal job and I didn't even know. It's just that's humility, because with rich, you know, he's not going to broadcast all that he's got going on in his acting career.
He's going to find out from your wife. That's that's that's it. I'm going for the EGOT Daniels.
How's that now? They're just going to go throw that out there. I'm going for the EGOT.
On your way, buddy. Thank you. He didn't even tell us about it.
That's what I'm saying. I had no idea. Okay. I'm sorry.
I haven't watched Wicked yet. Do you ever roll on that thing? Definitely do not. Definitely do not. Definitely do not. But still see it. You should still watch it. Take care, DJ. You're the best.
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Kansas City Chief Right Tackle, Mitchell Schwartz. Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for having me. Yeah, I deserve it. Good to see you, Mitchell. Yeah, thanks for having me.
You got it. Now you've been sending me texts about Mitchell and what he stands for. And I don't want to talk about him as if he's not here. But yeah, well, you know, I said I'll bring somebody on as a guest. You know, it's always fun to bring somebody on and we're here in Kansas City. And thank you for doing this.
I can't say it enough. This is amazing that you brought your whole show here. Whole show is here in Kansas City in support of Big Slick and we appreciate it very much.
But when I said I wanted to bring a guest on, I'm like, well, I want to bring on who I wanted to be when I was a kid. And that was an offensive lineman for the Kansas City Chiefs. And I've been fortunate enough to get to know Mitchell and know what a good guy he is and what a great player he is. So I wanted to share this moment with with the right tackle for the Chiefs.
My favorite football team. Not that I need to tell anybody that. Yeah, I mean, it's it's really cool. I got to know him, I guess, at the end of last year. And we hit it off right away. We both like food. We both like food.
We have a lot of shared interests. He asked me where I got my meat. And we go to the same meat guy. He goes to the same butcher here in Kansas City. I said a serious question, though, Mitch, where do you where do you buy your meat in Kansas City?
He's like, oh, this place called Bickelmeier's. And I'm like, OK, you're in. You're good. So because I know how seriously you take your Kansas City food. Yeah. Eric, you know, I do know you have actually cooked for me.
Yes, I actually handed me your actual fruits of your cooking labor. Well, I mean, hold on a second. Yes. In a way, no question about that. But you guys go to the same butcher here. We do. Yeah. City.
Yeah. I mean, when I got here, I like to cook. I was confined to an apartment in my previous life. When I got here, I got a house, got a whole backyard set up. I mean, this guy's got the greatest backyard set up you could ever imagine for cooking. And he sent me videos all the time, different, different stuff to try. And the text exchange between me and him and some of his other offensive linemen are that are into smoking is hilarious. Like one night I put a brisket on and it was like we were kind of coordinating with the time difference of putting a brisket on around the same time. And I woke up to check my brisket and texted Mitch at four in the morning L.A. time, which was Kansas City six a.m. time. And I told Lindsey, my girlfriend, I'm like, I texted Mitchell Schwartz in the middle of the night about a brisket.
Like what? And I responded. For whatever reason, I was up at that exact time and we were because I was doing a brisket the next night.
So we kind of throw ideas off each other to see what we do. I think he was doing like a 24 hour. Oh, yeah. Super slow. It got all jiggly and gooey.
And the bark was perfect. Ladies and gentlemen, everything's on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash rich eyes and show as we are steamrolling towards one million followers on that front. Choo choo. Should we have a party? Yes.
We cross. Yeah. When we cross one million, I bet we'll get there by the start of the season. I don't know. We'll see.
We got I just don't want to punch the clown on that front. I think we got nine hundred and three thousand. So is that right?
Yeah. Nine oh four. Nine oh four.
No way. A long time. Nine hundred and four thousand to nine oh three.
Two hundred and thirty nine. Let's do it. We'll have a party.
Let's have a party on the roof over. You know why? Because that's what that's what that's what influencers do. You are an influencer, bro. You know, you get all the other influencers that influence seven hundred and thirty nine.
I sneak up on people and influence. You've been influencing for a quarter of a decade over a decade or a quarter of a century. My God. My bad.
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Everybody. Terzo in Iowa. You're here on the program. What's up, Terzo? How you been? All right. I've been doing pretty well, Rich. Kind of a terrible snowy day here in Des Moines. OK. I know we kind of have some pet peeves at times, but people that do not use a blinker when driving in a snowstorm is absolutely one of the dumbest things in the world.
What's going on? You use your blinker, people. My God. Terzo, way to speak for blinker safety. I appreciate that.
You must have gone to blinker school. Well, well, I just have to, you know, at times defend people in traffic court. So sometimes, you know, one of those things you've seen, you've seen the bad side.
Yeah, of course. I've seen the bad stuff. Hey, Rich, I can't believe Brockman. You've joined the Bang Bang Niner gang. Congratulations. I've been waiting for you to jump on the bandwagon. As long as they hold the line on Purdy, he will be, he will be, he will be Bang Bang Niner ganging, for sure. Wait, when I lived in Alaska, I was a Niner fan.
I lived on the West Coast. OK. I do appreciate that. I just think that they are going to hold the line with him and just knowing Brock, and we've talked about it before, I think he's going to see that one good contract is great. Two or three really good contracts are better. And if you win in San Francisco, come on, man, you're going to be a Niner for life. Look at, look at Steve.
Look at Steve Young. He said it best on Monday. Thank you, Terzo. Appreciate it. It'll get done. It'll get done. It'll get done with starting with a five and we can all go back to our homes.
Our number two is on the other side with George Raveling in studio. It's going to get done, you know. But about us, Rich, looking at the metrics of our following count, a year ago today, we were at 727,000. One year ago today? Yeah, and we're at 904 right now. On September 6th, we hit 800,000. OK. And on December 1st, we hit 850,000. OK. We're getting there before the season.
OK, very good. When's the season getting here? September, it's an early start this year.
You know, it's interesting. Labor Day's early, so. OK, there you go. Week one is like September 4th. I mean, we've been we've been influencing for a quarter of a month.
September 4th is kickoff. I got it. He's not even paying attention over there. I got it. What are you doing?
Watching Del Tufo hand feed a rodent? What are you doing over there? I'm on the YouTube page looking at the analytics.
Chris was just looking at it. I'm just staring at these, yeah, 904,000. The numbers are in. Just looking at the numbers, trying to figure it out. It's just numbers. It really the difference between a decade and a century. You know, it's in between the numbers. You know, it's in between the numbers influencing, influencing about us, though.
It's about us. Yeah. Before you left the X, you had a million, right? You had a million followers.
1.3. Yeah. So that's I mean, and and and 500,000 of them, I think were for Sarah Palin saw them from her house.
That was fun. And back in the day, we can get the Twitter audit to see, like, what percentage of your followers was buying them. Who's buying them, huh?
People were buying them. I don't know. I just, you know what? I just, I just started tweeting and let the influencing happen. You know, sometimes you just got to, you've got, that's how you influence. If you try too hard to influence, you just start you over influencing and you don't want to do that. You can't plan on being an influencer. Just naturally.
That's right. You just either have it when you wake up or you don't. And I have it. You don't want to over influence.
Then you don't wind up influencing. And that's what I want to do. You know what I mean? Oh, I feel you. You know, one, one second, you're just watching Netflix. And there I am on the Tom Brady roast. Next time you're watching Netflix, there I am. Kicked off the roast. I did.
And I helped, I believe I was in the first episode of Running Point as well, right? Like I told DJ, you didn't, I'm watching the Brady roast. I'm like, yo, what? Like you don't tell us anything.
First, third and fourth? Yeah. Okay. You're in a couple, man. I was at the Brady roast.
I saw Rich setting up before and I'm like, Hey, he's kicking off the show. Oh, but you didn't know though, right? I didn't know. I mean, I watched it happen. See, that's my career. My career has been a higher register career for over a quarter century. Yeah. It's always been like, Hey, good job. Sneaky, rich.
