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That means Luca and Jokic can play with them on the same team. Earlier on the show, senior NFL insider for the athletic, Diana Rossini, Sirius XM NBA radio host, Frank Isola. Coming up, actor Clancy Brown. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Number three, the Rich Eisen Show is on the air right here in the middle of February 844204 Rich's. The number to dial, I have no idea why I said the month of February that way moments ago. I'm just having fun. I also got awakened at 2.55 in the morning by an alarm clock that hasn't been touched by my daughter on her bedside table and it just went off.
And when I say it went off, I literally thought there was some sort of an air raid happening in my neighborhood. But at any rate, enough about me. Clancy Brown is going to be joining us in studio. He's been here before. He's got a CW show, Good Comp, Bad Comp.
The series premiere is tonight at 9 Eastern Time. And he was just in The Penguin. So great.
Season one of The Penguin. I can't wait to see more of it. He is in that.
You need to see that if you have not seen it. He's also, as you know, in one of our favorite movies of all time, The Shawshank Redemption. So clearly we're going to have a lot to talk about with Clancy Brown when he comes out here. He's a Buckeye Stater, I believe a Bengal fan. So he'll be joining us in a matter of moments here on the program.
844204 Rich number to dial. We'll take some phone calls as well. The salary cap in the NFL is going up and going up by a lot. Now, a lot of folks may wonder, what does that mean for you and your team?
Guess what? If it was a 255 million last year, and it was, and it can go maybe up to 281 million dollars this year. That means over the last two years, according to Dan Graziano of ESPN, $53 million a cap has gone up. And what that means is you can pay players more. And what that means is if you're going to start scrimping on and running back, you are a complete and total moron. I just said that about general managers.
You know what I mean? Like, Oh, you said we can't pay a 15 million. We got to pay a 9 million when there's $6 million of 53 million over the last two years going up. No, let's not, let's not go ahead and pay a difference making guy this. Let's just go and draft one and hope he can be it. You're missing the boat.
I should say that instead of a moron. That's just the way I feel about it. It's certainly Howie Roseman just showed you, you know, if they scrimped on a running back position, would they have won the Super Bowl this year? Perhaps not.
Perhaps not. And what this also means is players who are looking for more coin heard the cha-ching. You know who's one of them? Micah Parsons retweeted it, LFG.
That's awesome. Forget about the cap going up LFG. He LFG'd a couple of posts. One was also Matt Eberflus, the new defensive coordinator talked yesterday for the first time since arriving back in Dallas. He was the linebacker coach for seven seasons there underneath Jason Garrett. Eberflus, when he spoke to the media called Micah a premier pass rusher. We're going to use him that way, certainly. And he's one heck of an athlete that can do a lot of different things for us on defense.
He LFG'd that one too. Pay that man his money. Exactly, Teddy. Exactly.
That's awesome. And Eberflus had this to say about joining the Cowboys staff as Brian Schottenheimer's defensive coordinator. As a former head coach, how do you help Brian? You know, as a first year head coach. Yeah. You know, again, the first couple of meetings I had with him, I said, I'm here for you. You know, I want to really just do a good job of bouncing ideas off of me, experiences that I had and just working together, you know, to be able to utilize me because I do have the experience of being a head coach for him and to make his job easier. Two things here. Number one is it's good to see that Eberflus is not giving up his look of the hair and the beard just because he's no longer a head coach. You know what I mean? Yep. Because normally, you know, go for an HC to an assistant. You know, you can let yourself go. Not when you have a glow up like he had.
I mean, he's glowing up. And two, I know people have their fun and say, you know, what's Eberflus going to bring from his head coaching experience in Chicago to Brian Schottenheimer? A lot. Damn straight. Let me tell you, man, he is an excellent defensive coach in the national football league.
You got yourself a winner there. I think that the Cowboys defense is definitely not the problem here. The problem is, is what's going to happen on the offensive side of the ball.
Certainly if you went ahead and didn't dip your toe in a much larger coaching pool with more of experience and a more expensive pool for coaches, because you want to keep the system for Dak and everybody else that Mike McCarthy brought in and that Brian Schottenheimer is going to continue. It's the offensive side of the ball. Who's coming, man? Who's going to protect Dak and who's running it? Rico Dowdle's a free agent. Who, other than C.D.
Lamb, can catch the ball? That's what we're talking about here, right? So Rich and Chris, you know, we laughed a lot about Brian Schottenheimer getting hired, right? But if you look back, I think all the coaches recently that at their introductory press conferences, we all kind of rolled our eyes at Nick Sirianni. What's he done? Been the two Super Bowls. Dan Campbell. Pew, pew, pew, pew. And, you know, all these guys, people looked at and went, what's going on?
And they've all been pretty decent, especially Sirianni and Campbell. So that's why I'm willing to give Schottenheimer the benefit of the doubt. So you have no choice but to it. Yeah. I mean, what else am I to do? Actually, my last choice.
It's my last year, you know, unless I see something. By the way, Jason Fowler did this in your absence, Mike. He provided me with this wonderful folder inside his he made of his excellent card stock as well.
He made the a certificate of release of fandom presented to T.J. Jefferson and his own even made his own gold seal of because, you know, J. J. J is also, amongst many things, a an actual notary. Yes. Yep.
We think. And you have not signed this. I got one over here. I told you I'm gonna let this year play out.
I mean, you have one over there. You made one of the certificates for you. He made a couple copies.
Where's my card stock to? It's good stuff. I mean, listen to this. Oh, yeah.
That's not cheap. Clayton Adams, you know who he is? Clean Bigsby? No, it sounds like it sounds like actually it actually sounds like one of Clancy Brown's rolls, right? Yeah, right. Clayton Adams. No, he's the name of your new offensive coordinator.
Oh, yeah, that's right. He's the one who's gonna be shaping Brian Schottenheimer's game plan with the with the AHC. Let's go, Clayton. An offensive lineman by trade and offensive line coach by trade had this to say about what the Cowboys offense, as I said, this is what it's about. How will this offense look? The same thing that I want from every player on offense, and that is to create violence in the game, be aggressive, run, hit. I think that every decision that we make schematically needs to lean that direction. So if there's gray area, what is it going to keep? What is going to allow these guys to play more free and run and hit and be violent? There you go.
Remove the gray so you could be more violent. I like that. You do? So I should put this folder back in the I'd say, you know, keep it close, but know that you have at least 12 months before third place. NFC is third place. Yes. Well, they catch the Washington commanders this year. No.
Well, they catch the the the Philadelphia Eagles this year. No chance. OK, we shall see.
We shall see. That's why they play the games. You know what, TJ? Let's take you off the griddle. Let's talk about what's going on in Chris Brockman's baseball house. Oh, yeah. Guys don't want to play the position. This is already.
Listen, listen. You know, Vlad Guerrero, you think, you know, because he's he's pissed. He's pissed in Toronto right now.
Yeah, not his self-imposed deadline to get a new deal with Toronto came and went without a deal. So, you know, I think he would look great in pinstripes in the Bronx. That's what I think. The first base position is going to be open. You know, Goldschmidt's just a one year deal.
I don't know. I mean, he's just sitting right there. You know, you big player in the Bronx.
That would be helpful. He won't go to the Red Sox. I know that because you know why?
Why is that? He doesn't play third base. And that's the only people that the Red Sox are collecting right now are third baseman. And unless, you know, the Gold Glove winner at third base last year and Alex Bregman plays second.
That's the plan. Well, I mean, unless the kid that they, what's the name of your Christian Campbell, Christian Campbell, who they used, they drafted using a compensatory pick. They got in letting Xander Bogarts walk, which is an interesting way to, you know, to keep replenishing. Let's get our great players.
Let's have them walk to Southern California because we won't pay them. And we'll draft replacements to play a position that we might have to put the Gold Glove winner at third base at in Alex Bregman because Rafael Devers in his iron glove only insists on playing one position and in a press conference looked like a very upset individual that even, even being talked about because he's the one they actually paid him. Paid him. He actually did.
Paid him 10 years, $313 million. Alex Bregman spoke about this subject matter and had this to say. I'm super excited to just be his teammate. He's a great player. I think everybody in this clubhouse is worried about winning and whatever it does, whatever it takes to help the team win. That's all I'm focused on.
And I'll play wherever AC tells me to play. Yeah. Oh God. We're in so much trouble. It's been like one day and I'm already panicked. I re-watched all this yesterday and this morning. Oh God.
Bregman looks high from being at 40,000 feet with the high road that he just took right there. Geez, what is happening? And they're trying to fat shame Devers. They're like, oh, he checked in at 240 pounds yesterday. Wait, what are we doing?
Oh no, that's fine to do it. I'm reading the latest report here. By the way, AC, he's referring to is Alex Cora. I thought it was Anderson Cooper for a second. I thought it was Al Collins.
No, definitely not Al Collins. This whole third base situation does remind one of a slow speed chase right now. Is that wrong? Too soon.
But hold on a minute. I've got the report right here. Is that AC, Alex Cora, had a bunch of players over to his rental house.
It says it's a rental house. Well, they're in Florida for dinner on Monday night. And so apparently Bregman and Devers during the gathering at the house, we're talking for 45 minutes. Oh, yeah.
About whose base it is? I don't know. I don't know.
I guess Devers is like the baseball version of Ryan Day because he figures it's his birthright third base. Hey, now. Thank you. I don't know why you brought it.
Why not? Sure. And in the Avedon Costello, who's on third, right?
Right? Who's on first? What's on second? I don't know who's on third. I don't know. Third base. Maybe they're doing the routine.
That would be a long con that I didn't see coming. You know what I mean? Maybe they're doing the routine. I don't know who's playing third base. I don't know. Third base.
Because that's the way it is. No, everyone apparently had a good time at the dinner. And Cora added to the opinion that all is well with the infielders. This is the report from ESPN News Services. Added to the opinion that all is well with the infielders after watching Devers receive constructive feedback from Bregman during glove work on the practice field Monday. So there's a singing constructive criticism. Dole glove incoming.
And then they chatted at night. And this is the guy who says my Yankees are going to be looking up at his team. Well, we're more talent than you guys. We have too many good players. That's the problem.
Is that what it is? We have too many good players. We have the best farm system in baseball.
One position. We got a guy coming up. We got another guy waiting.
We got to keep it warm. And then we're going to sign Vlady. And then we got too many good players. We got six man rotation. The pitching staff is too good. I don't understand.
I don't understand what you're saying. So you're saying on one hand that the team has an excellent roster, more talented than the New York Yankees, the defending American League champions that have at the top of their rotation, Garrett Cole and Max Freed. Garrett Cole, who admittedly cannot get Rafael Devers out. And you know who also you can't get out?
Alex Bregman. You've got two of the first variety A grade Yankee killers on the Red Sox. Well, I mean, I just they don't play.
You can't have two third baseman at once. You know what I mean? That is a problem. So on one hand, you're saying the farm is amazing.
That's a bumper crop. And the team has got so many good players. And on the other hand, you absolutely despise the ownership group at the same time. So it's kind of it's kind of weird how I'm in a tough spot. I'm in a tough spot. Yeah, I'm in a tough spot right now. And then there's rumors that they want to buy the Celtics, which would really put me in a tough spot.
That's right. I don't like that at all. I mean, I really I really was hoping to run into Jeffrey Lurie while we were in New Orleans so we could have a chat about that.
But dude, I know why they want to buy the Celtics. Oh, because Jalen Brown plays a mean third base, too. Let's get him at third. Who else can we get at third T.J.? Peyton Pritchard.
Who else can show up? Wade Boggs. I don't know. Let's get Wade Boggs back.
When you went to your team, we disowned him. After the horse riding. Yeah. You know what I mean? Let's see. Who else? Okay.
What about Uclas? Didn't he play third? I don't know. He played both. That was my favorite part of the Rafael Devers press conference is he let his interpreter do all the talking until the question was asked about playing designated hitter. And he goes, no.
Oh, so you do understand the question. And then he had a look on his face like he had a mouthful of yellow Sour Patch Kids. Yeah. The entire time.
He did not look happy during any of that. This is great. Both the Yankees are going to look up at them. I got it. Let me write all these things down.
He'd come back. I need to remember all these takes. Their team is incredible. They're talented. They've got too many good players. The ownership group sucks.
And they're going to be an argue with any of that. Honestly, February 19th. We're good. Where's Gary Guy Eddie? Gary Guy Eddie.
That's our base. You get Gary. Mike Pali Arulo.
Thanks, everybody. Lansford. Lansford has been called.
I love it. Did Butch Hobson play third? Great question. Back in the day.
I don't know. OK. Butch Hobson. But no Ma did. No Ma played short.
Didn't he play third like a couple of games? Same birthday as us, TJ. All right. No.
All right. Let's take a break here. Let's get Clancy Brown out here. Let's get out. One of our favorite guests back in the day is back here. Good cop, bad cop. Speaking of which, that's Devers and Bregman.
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Yeah. When you first received the script for that, what'd you think when you first got that? I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe that they were going where they were going. That it was as dark and as, as mean as it was. But it was, it was also very realistic. I thought it's like super hyper realistic and kind of a neat little origin story for the Penguin, which I always associated with Burgess Meredith, you know, with the top hat and the thing waddling around. Yeah. With the long extended cigarette holder. But then they put, they put Colin Farrell, the one of the best looking men in the world in a ton of makeup and a fat suit and turned him into one of the ugliest characters you ever want to see on TV. And you're not wrong about the darkness of it.
It just kept finding a new bottom, quite frankly, watching the show as well. And was Colin Farrell always in character because he was in that makeup all the time? Well, for, for all intents and purposes he was, I mean, I never, I never met him. I never met Colin Farrell.
I always met this guy, Oz Cobb. But after a take, you would hear Colin's accent and voice come out of this, this character, this body. So he wasn't always in character, but he was always in the character.
I mean, you know, he couldn't, he couldn't get out of that. So you never saw him as himself. Never saw him as himself until we, until I was at the New York premiere and then, and went up to him to congratulate. I couldn't, I, you know, I sort of had to hold him a little bit and feel him because he was, he was so much smaller and not fat and like really handsome.
Right. I mean, that's not why it happened, but you know, I was like, but he was just such a, like, I couldn't believe that that was the guy. I couldn't believe that Colin was the guy that was in that suit.
Neither can I. Just watching it because you, you just forget it is him inside that suit because of how amazing he is. And then the cast around him, you, you guys were just so great. Yeah. Well, that's a good, that's a good script.
Like, like good cop back up. If it's a good script, you, it's easy to do. I mean, the script does all the work for you.
Right. I've got, again, I'm, I'm, you know, spoiler alert. I, you know, I, I wish your character had a better end in the penguin as well. You know, he did, you know, he did have a good end. He didn't let the penguin get him. That is true. That is, you know, that is true. When you think about it in the long run, he didn't let us get him. He got himself.
That is true as well. I got you guys, you guys have to see it. Oh, you haven't seen it. I haven't seen it yet. No, but I, I, I whipped through it in a span of just a couple of flights.
And then like I told you, I watched the last two episodes on a big screen. You have to so dark. And the lady that wrote it, the team that wrote it, but the lady that led it is this little tiny, beautiful young lady who looks like she's 15. And she just writes the sickest garbage. You know, it's the worst characters on earth. You could, they're, they're horrible. They're horrible.
They do terrible things to each other. Do you like playing that or, or, or what you're kind of playing right now in Good Cop Bad Cop? I mean, what do you, what do you, which type of character do you like playing in your vast career? I like the checks. I like the checks. If they want me to do that, I'll definitely do.
I'll definitely do Salvatore Moroni and DC thing. And, you know, let, let Colin Farrell toss me around. If, if I need to look like an out of it sextagenerian, which is what I am in front of two really talented young actors, then I will do that as well. But do you don't, so you don't have a preference or anything like that? No, I mean, I, you know, I kind of wanted to do Good Cop Bad Cop because it was so different. You know, I kind of like to turn, turn the page on stuff. Well, certainly if you were doing one role like the Penguin, you can now do something that's different and you kind of mix it up in that respect.
Yeah, I don't want to do that guy forever. Well, again, you were great in Billions as well, playing the, the Attorney General. Yeah.
You know, what was that experience like for Billions? Well, that was the creators of that I had met years and years ago. Compliment and Levine, right? Yeah.
Yeah. And we had talked about doing one of their movies that they were going to direct and it didn't work out. And then they called me out of the blue, maybe what, 15, 20 years later and said, Hey, we got this part for you want to do. And they're terrific writers.
They're some of the best writers ever. And that's, that's really the key to my success is just working with great writers because then, like I said, I don't have to make stuff up. I don't have to wear it. This is, this is very difficult for me.
What is difficult? Talking to you and being myself on camera and making up stuff because I don't have a script in front of me. Even if, even if I'm wearing, by the way, this is my fat suit that I'm wearing right now. Just I did this, I spent three hours of makeup today, you know?
No, but I mean, it is, but you look like you now. You know what? I appreciate that. It's, it's, it's, it's the makeup Clancy Brown here on the Rich Eisen show. So, um, I want to bounce a theory about Shawshank off of you here.
Okay. The theory is that the end of the film, the beautiful ending of the film, the film moment that gets your heart going. And it just is, um, a wonderful warm finish to this film. It is a fantasy that it is a dream sequence that doesn't really exist. That it's just like the moment where, um, I guess where red, you know, was here. That's the moment where the movie ended and that everything after that is just a dream.
What are your thoughts on that? So I think you've been watching the penguin too much conspiracy theory, too much, too much dark that things can't end in a fairytale way. So you think the movie ended in that matter? Well, I know it did. I know it did. I know that's what happened.
Yeah. Cause it is, it's a beautiful ending. I guess I don't know why it's perfect. You know, it was a perfect ending to the film.
Good. You know, I know I should just leave it there, but that's what I was reading. And I was hearing that, that there was a, these moments don't, that was too pat. It was too beautiful of an ending as a reaction or somebody saying they had some kind of inside knowledge. It got rewritten. It got, it didn't get rewritten that it, that it, that was the general intent of it, that, that it was, that you know, either Andy never got to Z'Wat'nayo and, and you know Morgan Freeman's character never got out and he never found the box and he, he actually offed himself, you know, in the same spot. That is dark. It is dark, but you know, Stephen, Stephen King though, brother, right? At the very base, you know, he also wrote the body, you know, the standby me story.
I don't think they changed that one too much. No, but I, boy, now I don't know. Now you've got me thinking.
Oh no. Now you've got me thinking that I've got to read, I've got to read the short story. When you see this photograph on the screen, what do you think when you see that classic? I think that is a man who just got married. Is that right?
That's right. I got married during that show. Yeah. During, during the filming of Shawshank Redemption. I almost didn't do it because I had my, I had my date and it was during, right in the middle of the filming and we had to negotiate around that date. And so I, I threatened to show, threatened to throw Tim off the roof and then hopped in a car with my sister and drove to Chicago and got married and came back. Wow.
Wow. My sister, by the way, I don't know why it is every time I come on the show, it's like one of my family's birthday. Last time was my mom's. Today's my sister's birthday. Happy birthday, Kate.
Happy birthday, Kate. So okay, so the famous scene on the roof, okay, where the, the, the convicts, they're, they're tarring the roof, right? And they're drinking beers and whatever, and you are up there making sure that their lives are as miserable as possible, right? You threatened to throw Tim Robbins, Andy Dufresne off the roof, but in real life, after that moment, you get in the car and you get married, right? Then you come back and finish.
Then I come back and finish. You're an excellent actor. You're an excellent actor.
I didn't tell my father-in-law that's what was going on. I mean, I guess what, what is your favorite line of yours that you delivered from that film? I can't say it on television. Really? No, I mean, it's pretty darn, it's pretty.
Well, I mean, you want to, can you clean it up at all? Well, there's a few of them, but none of them, I can't say it. You fat effing barrel of monkey. You know, I don't know. How do you say it? Okay. Well, you said it such BRIO in the film. Yeah. You know, you nailed it. Well, it was fun. Fun to say that.
They actually wrote it, so I get to say it. And you shot it in your home state, right? Yeah, it was in Mansfield, Ohio. Mansfield, Ohio, Mansfield Reformatory. As a matter of fact, we just had a 30 year anniversary and a bunch of us went back to that reformatory. It was going to be torn down, but a bunch of architects, local architects saved it.
And now it's a monument or a park or whatever it is. And they have regular screenings of the show and they have tours. They go through this horrible, horrible maximum security prison. And then where they really make their money though is they have a haunted house throughout October and they do heavy metal concerts in the yard.
So yeah, that's why they make their real money. So go to Mansfield, Ohio, go visit Mansfield, go to the reformatory and have a good time. They'll lock you in the cell and do all sorts of fun stuff like that. Where some horrible things happen. Who was there in the 30th anniversary?
Let's see, we had Bob Gunton and Bill Sadler, Frank Darabont, the writer-director, Gil Bellows and Mark Ralston. What was that like for you to go back there? It was weird. I had brought my daughter, I told her that she didn't really have to go.
It's just going to be a bunch of old actors talking about how great they were 30 years ago. And she said, no, no, I want to go. And she came, you know, I came in the reformatory. I was like, oh yeah, boy, I remember what it was like to be here. And she goes in the reformatory. She goes, I got to get out of here. This place, I got to get out of here before it gets dark because this place has got some bad juju in it.
And it really does. It's a horrible, horrible place, but they're turning it into a moneymaker. Do you have any good Morgan Freeman stories from the shooting?
Let's see. Morgan told me a story about his agent. I think it was his agent or it was one of the agents. His agents got a call saying, and you know, this is based on a short story called Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption. And Rita Hayworth was one of the posters, right, that covered up the excavation. And Morgan tells a story about how he got his agent or his agent said this, got a call from another agent about how much they loved the script and how wonderful it was. And that was no secret. It was a very popular script in Hollywood at the time. And boy, what a great movie it's going to be and congratulations Morgan and all the rest of that.
But I just want to put a little bug in your ear. Think about Julia Roberts for Rita Hayworth in the, in the film. Yeah. Yeah. So clearly, yeah. No kidding. Yeah. Yeah.
Apparently there was lots of casting of Rita Hayworth going on, but there's no Rita Hayworth in the film. See, it's like agents. It's an agent joke. So how good was that script? I don't know.
I haven't read it yet. Oh my gosh. That is wild.
Yeah. I laughed and Morgan just shook his head. That's my Morgan Freeman story.
Mike Del Tufo, our sound engineer. I had a good question for you. Go for it. By the way, it's gotta be a good, now that you said it's a good question.
I'll try to get an answer. Okay. Highlander, one of the greatest lines in that movie. I have something to say.
It's better to burn out the fadeaway. You make that up. You pulled that.
That line has never been made up that line. That's like, it's a song. Yeah. Yeah. I was just, I was listening to either Neil Young or what's the other one?
Def leopard. You did a little thing with it, right? Rock of ages. Yeah.
Right. On rock of ages. Is that where you pulled? I love it. So that's actually a true story. Cause I heard that for years that you ad lib that and I had to find out. I didn't really, I just stole it. I stole it, but you made it.
They just kept shooting. I re-stole it from Def leopard who stole it from Neil Young. It's like fantastic. It's like one of the greatest, cause you're in the church.
It's amazing. So what happens for those who might not be familiar? What's the story here? The story is there's a scene in the church and my character, I don't even know. I don't remember what happens in the church. I meet up with the Highlander.
We have a little, we have a little talk because we can't kill each other on sacred ground or something. And then as I leave, I put out all the, all the votaries, all the candles that are there. And I say, I have something to say, it's better to burn out than fade away. And then I leave. I mean, it's that, that's the end of the story. That's what it is, but it's a button. It's a button on the scene. And it was, I just kind of made it up. So that was not in the script.
You just decided to just have that in your head. Back when I used to be able to do that. Now I can't do it. Come on now. Classy. Come on. Don't say that.
Good Cop Bad Cop airs tonight 9 PM Eastern on the CW and everyone should go check that out right here on the Roku channel portal as well. Right? Yep. Look at us doing the same thing. Nice. Are you concerned about the Cincinnati Bengals?
No, not anymore. They just raised the salary cap. We're going to sign them all. Well, I mean, I don't know if, if you're, you know, this just in Mike Brown's not known for taking that salary cap money and spending it all Clancy. I don't you, I imagine to do with it. I imagine you're not related to the Brown family, just a different Brown family of Ohio.
No big fan of Paul, but you know, that's no, I know. I know Mike Brown has a bad reputation on, well, I mean, a rep on, on maybe, I don't know why you would not sign Jamar chase. I don't last year when you know that there's this also that's coming down the pike, but also maybe a good year not to sign them because they didn't make it very far.
They didn't recoup as much revenue as they could win the first, what, five games or whatever. They, they, they started own three and things got a little bit dicey, but Jamar chase still won the triple crown. Of course, of course, of course. But now what a great, I mean, I'm a Jamar, I'm on Jamar cases team, Jamar chase's side. I'm on his team. I'm sure you would.
I'm not on the management team. All right. But let's get him signed. Let's get them all signed.
We have room now, but having Joe burrow as your quarterback has gotta be like a dream come true to just watch him play. Right. And the first dream was, uh, was, uh, Palmer's brother. Yeah.
Carson. Right. That was the first dream. Right. And then he got hurt. So correct.
When burrow went down, I was like, Oh my God, this is not going to happen. But now he's the comeback player of the year and we'll see what they can do. Science has progressed. Right. And so you're a reds fan as well.
Cincinnati guy all the way. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Who was your Dodger fan?
I mean, I live here. I mean, you know, who was your guy growing up when you were growing up in Cincinnati? Who was your guy? Tony, Tony Perez, Tony Perez. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Big Tony Perez guy. Loved bench. Loved Rose. Loved even loved Lee May for the brief time that he was there. Joe Morgan loved all those guys.
Sure. But Tony Perez was my guy. Yeah.
The big red basement. As matter of fact, when I loved him, he would move to first. That's right. He would have moved to first and been an all star there too.
That's what you need. I like it. All the best ballplayers are third baseman. They all start out at third.
They can play anywhere. Pete Rose would played first base for the championship. Philadelphia Phillies. There you go. I always remembered he would always, if he recorded the last item in any, he would take the baseball and he would spike it down on that, on that turf.
And it would bounce way up in the air. I just remember that the weeds kids, that's how they were known because they were so they were, I think Joe Morgan was on that team too, right? I think he was on that Philadelphia Phillies team too. Hey, this has been a pleasure having you back here. Come back anytime. Clancy Brown.
Good to see you, man. Talk about Australia next time. That's where we shot. Where'd you shoot?
We shot it in Australia. Good Cop Bad Cop? Yeah. Why Australia?
Because that's where the money is. Wow. And the check's clear, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, fantastic.
Everybody check out Good Cop Bad Cop airing tonight, 9 Eastern on the CW, streaming right here also on the Roku channel, as Clancy just said. We're back here on the Rich Eisen Show to wrap things up in a moment. Hey, Rich Eisen here. I hear from a lot of business owners like you about the work it takes to pursue your passions. So I know how important it is to have the tools that can help keep you moving forward. And with access to world-class business and travel benefits, the American Express Business Platinum Card helps you take your business to the next level. It offers a flexible spending limit that adapts with your business.
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Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Tell everybody, Jack, who your godfather is. Who's your grandfather? Ron Shelton, who is the writer of Bull Durham. The movie that made me exist.
I'm here because of that film. So why not have him as the godfather of your child? Absolutely. What is it like to have Ron Shelton as a godfather? I mean as I got older and realized all the movies he had written and directed, as I did what he does, it really became more of a resort. We get lunch a lot now. I really like the guy. He's amazing. How were you introduced to him to Bull Durham?
How was that introduced to you? I went to audition for Ron. I did really well. And then the agent says, you did really well, but you've got to go throw. And so then I went out and met Kevin and pitched through the ball around with him. So Ron wanted to make sure that people could throw. And I played third base.
Never pitched before. So I had to learn all those mechanics. And then on top of that, I wanted to do a kind of Fernando Valenzuela thing. You know, rolling the eyes. You know, that kind of thing. Which Ron was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you got to breathe through your eyelids. Yeah. Pretty much.
So the catch that you had to conduct in order to get the gig was with Kevin Costner? Yes. Where? Out at Warner Brothers Studios out in the Valley. Just on the lot? Yeah, outside a bungalow. Yeah, outside a bungalow there. So people are driving their golf carts around you while you're trying to catch with Kevin Costner? Yeah.
And I was like, OK, no, don't break any windows. That's right. Because you are nuclear loose. You're supposed to throw it in any direction right there. You know, he was written as a lefty. Right. And Ron decided that, you know, he wanted me. So it turned into a right. That kind of ruined the movie, though. If only he was a lefty, that would have been really taken to the next level.
Because you might not exist. That's right. Yeah.
You know, if you think about it, you boil it all down. Yeah. I'm glad you got the part.
I'm glad you memorized your lines that day. Yeah. Ouch. Yes. Wow. That was a fast. That was a nuclear loose fastball high and tight right there. Yeah, I know. Yep.
Pretty much rushback. Do you have a question for this man? Like, that's your movie, man. I guess for me, you know, the lines of Bull Durham. Do you have a favorite line that you remember goes in the front?
Big guy. And I still have those, you know, garter belt. Do you have the where?
Where's the garter belt? It's in storage somewhere. We're going to bring it out for a big auction some.
Would you do? I mean, we'll, we'll help you. We'll help you out. And one of my jerseys is in the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. That is so damn cool, man. Yeah.
I mean, come on. Cooperstown. What a dream. That was, that was awesome. Tim Robbins, third baseman.
He could play for the Red Sox too. We're just keeping on the same bit. We'll just keep pounding that bit into the ground. By the way. Nick Asaski. Nick Asaski. Good one.
I like it. That interview with Tim and his son was our last in-person interview before the world shut down due to COVID. Yeah. Tim Robbins fist bumped us. Wouldn't remember all that. That was crazy.
Is that when you had him sign the Shawshank movie poster that you just had Clancy Brown add to the movie poster autographed by Morgan Freeman. And this is pretty cool. It's a really good, it's a really good item.
Man, we keep on adding. I'm extremely jealous of that. Well, I mean, it's right here. There you go.
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Hey guys. What's up Graham? I heard you mentioned Clayton Bixby as the new coach for the Cowboys.
I heard he's also a great third, third base player back in the youth league. Well done, Graham. Graham in Lexington has been hanging on a while and he's, he's additive. You're officially additive to the program, Graham. I appreciate that.
Welcome. Yeah, no, I just wanted to comment on the whole, like, why is John Elway not getting the respect he deserves? As a 11 year old who fell in love with football because of Brett farce, you know, winning against the Patriots. I load Denver that first, you know, super bowl victory, uh, that Elway got, uh, with his back to back. So I don't know, like, OGL way rookie, you know, for super bowls, uh, in the eighties Elway, but I know how great he was just based on that recency bias, uh, with his victories, you know, in the late nineties. So, and plus we had like Trent Dilfer and, uh, Brad Johnson winning super bowls there with the, the turn of the millennia. Um, I just think the, how we view quarterbacks now is different than how they were viewed previously. And that's why Joe Montana seemed like the permanent, you know, greatest of all time. Um, and you know, I'm with him.
Thanks for the call. Graham Graham in Lexington, Kentucky additive. Indeed.
Oh, just one last thing here for a fresh reminder. The two super bowls that the Denver Broncos won back to back. That's still, by the way, having gotten Mike Shanahan in the pro football hall of fame, which is kind of crazy that the committee says, let's go with Mike Holmgren and then the voters say, no thanks. Also, everyone talks about the McVay tree.
It's really the Mike Shannon tree. Right. Correct. Okay. And so, um, those back to back super bowls still haven't gotten Mike Shanahan and it got Terrell Davis. And yeah, I will just say this, those back to back super bowls were not necessary for Elway to make the hall of fame.
He was getting in the hall of fame anyway, without it. Yeah. Okay. Helps.
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Why don't we ever talk about them? Let's also slag on den of thieves. Who's going to stop us from doing that. Let's just slag on it. We're out of time.
We're out of time. This guy suddenly doesn't go anywhere without a Dodger hat. I saw you on Edelman with a Dodger hat. What are we doing?
Dodger hat. How come we don't get den of thieves to Pantera swag? Oh, you want some? I'll make lions gate.
Do whatever, bro. They owe me the shade. You know what I want?
I want the den of thieves three gear. Cause you know, you want a spot. That's true. I want to be at Benihana. Was it the Benihana scene? Oh yeah. But yeah.
What'd you guys talk about the day? Oh, just, you know how the Dodgers are just ruining baseball. I know it's great. And the Lakers, the Mavericks, and they got lucky again. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah.
Least is crazy. Anthony Davis will do wonders in Dallas. When, when, when, when, when I don't watch the Mavericks, when are we going to find out that like Jerry bus made some like deal with under the table deal with David Stern that now Adam has to abide by angry about rich is that we're out of time right now.
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