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That is right. Welcome to the Rich Eisen Show, live on the Roku Sports Channel from New Orleans at the Turbo Tax Studio. We have got another great day in store, although I don't believe anybody's gonna stop by and demand a trade from their team and set the entire state of Ohio on fire as yesterday's program did. But that said, we still have an incredible guest list in store for you right here on the Roku Sports Channel.
This Rich Eisen Show terrestrial radio affiliate smart enough to have us listening in on the Infinity Sports Network Sirius XM Channel 375, the Odyssey app. We are gonna have a whole host of guests, George Kittle, Joe Montana, Greg Olsons on this program. Seth Rollins is gonna stop by, TJ Jefferson. He's gonna be stopping by.
Same thing with Rod Woodson. And then my daughter's real psyched at home. She's gonna be really pumped up. Oz Perlman. Oz Perlman will be here.
TJ is so freaked out already. Indeed. Oz Perlman, the award-winning mentalist, will be here on our set in hour number three. Chris Brockman, TJ Jefferson in their spots and helping kick everything off today is my buddy from NFL Network, NFL Game Day Morning, Westwood One Radio calling the Super Bowl once again.
That was my Hall of Fame friend, Kurt Warner. Good to see you. What's up?
I am not demanding a trade. I like my teams. I like where I'm at.
Yeah, I like my groups. I'm good. That's good. Very good. Also, we needed an expert to start this program, to start talking about the Super Bowl. So we actually even have an animation for you.
It's time for Ask the Expert presented by Turbo Tax. There it is. You're the expert. All right. Do I need my eight ball or something?
No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm good? You don't need that. Okay. You have your inner magic ball. All right.
Got it. So, my goodness, we've been talking about these teams in respective ways all season long and here we are. They finally made it. It is the Eagles versus the Chiefs. Your first blush thoughts on what Super Bowl 59 is going to come down to? I mean, I love the matchup. You know, I love when we get down to two teams so I can go into all the little nuances and all the little things I can't wait to watch in this game. But I think my initial take is I think the Eagles are the better football team across the board.
You know, just when I look at all the different units, what I think they bring to the table. So, I'm excited about that because if the Chiefs get their three-peat, they're going to have to earn it against what I think a lot of us feel is the best football team in the National Football League. And then obviously the excitement of Andy Reid and what he is and what he's meant and what he can accomplish and Patrick Mahomes, what he's done at a young age. I sit back and every time I think about the matchup I'm like, how did the Chiefs go 15-1 this year? How did this team go 15-1 when I just kind of look at the individual pieces?
But I think that's what's been incredible. So, as much as I can say the Eagles to me look like the better team, you just can't count them out. You can't count out the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes and you feel like they're going to keep it close and who's going to have the ball in the end? And that's exactly how we want it, right?
That's exactly the kind of Super Bowl we want. What are the adjustments you do see on the All 22 from the Chiefs that stand out to you? Either side of the ball.
I'll just go full All 22 with you on that. I mean, I think the adjustments and I actually got a chance to talk to Andy and Patrick for our show on Sunday. And just kind of asking them because the Patriots always had kind of that formula to play their best football at playoff time.
And you're always like, how does that work? How do you get better throughout the season? And Andy was telling me they would try things early in the season with guys and go, OK, can we do this with them and can we do this? And one of the adjustments is what they've done with Xavier Worthy is he came in and he's the fastest guy at the combine. And we all think, OK, he's going to be the guy to get them back on track like Tyreek Hill.
And they've tried different things throughout the year and all of this. And now he's become kind of what Rashee Rice was to this team last year is he's had 13 targets in the playoffs. Eleven of them have come within five yards of the line of scrimmage or behind the line of scrimmage that now he's become this.
Catch it quick. This is how we play offense. We're going to let him do the run after catch thing more than the big plays down the field. And so that's the kind of adjustment that I see with the Chiefs, things that they do to adjust around who they have to be as a team. I mean, Spags, I think, always does a great job with his blitz packages, which I think will be a key in this game if they can get the Eagles into third and longer situations.
And can they handle the blitz? And we saw what that meant for them against the Bills. So I just I love all the little nuances of what these teams do and how in certain situations they're going to have to protect against certain things or attack a certain way. And Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio being added to the staff, what a what a what a major boon that was to the Eagles, certainly since that was part of their issue last year, was replacing the two coordinators they lost to coaching jobs the last time they played in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs. By the way, they're going to probably lose their offensive coordinator again after playing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
So what are you seeing from those two that have actually helped put them into New Orleans? I think the beautiful thing about those two guys is that they understand what they have as a team. So Vic Fangio has always been a guy that, you know, likes to play kind of a base defense, what we call quarters, kind of four across defense. But last year, when we watched the Eagles, especially down the stretch, they had so many breakdowns defensively that gave up big plays and they couldn't get it together.
That he's come in and say, hey, here's what I know. We have really good talent on this football team. Don't give up the big play. Like, don't try to do too much.
Be solid and really good at what you do. And so he's really settled down their defense in terms of, we'll let our front four get after it. We'll blitz every once in a while, but we're going to play solid defense and force teams to have to go the long distance against us because I think we're a better football team.
Kellen Moore has always been a guy that likes to change it up and throw the ball all over and do different motions and stuff. And if you look at their offense this year, they've really settled in and said, hey, we got Saquon Barkley. We got the best offensive line in football. We don't have to throw it all over the yard, even though that's been who Kellen's been in the past and what I know he likes to do and what any coordinator likes to do to kind of show off who they are. I think both of these coordinators have done a great job of going, I know what we have as a team. We just need to do our part of this thing.
We don't need to try to do too much. And in doing that, we've seen the best complete team. Hey, if we've got to run the football every snap and throw for 150 yards, no problem. We'll do that because we can win because our defense can make plays, vice versa.
I've been very impressed with the way that they've kind of pulled back, simplified things for their team, knowing the roster that they have. I thought the Chiefs had the most complete team they've ever had. I've heard people say that, but I don't believe that. That's been a game day morning issue all season long. Is this the most complete team Patrick Mahomes has ever had? Everybody else says yes.
Kurt has been saying no the entire time. You've also been saying that the Eagles do have a problem in their passing game. I do. But they've been obviously overcoming it. It helps to have a running back who runs into the end zone through the red zone from wherever he wants to. No doubt.
That helps. So what is the passing problem for the Eagles? Have they fixed it going into the Super Bowl if the Chiefs make it an important part of the Eagles game to win the game?
The biggest problem they have with passing, and again, I don't think this is every week. I don't think they're not capable of throwing. I think Jalen is fully capable of it. The problem that I see at times is that Jalen gets too conservative with the football. So when things are out there in front of him, he'll hold the football. He won't make those throws that to me can make the game easier.
Now, he might take a sack or he might make a four-yard gain on those plays. But that's the thing that I think when we talk about the passing problem, we continue to wait to see, will there be a game where Jalen Hurts is forced to drop back in the pocket and throw 35 or 40 times, and can he win a game that way because you have to play on time? I've seen him play on time. We saw him play a great game in the Super Bowl in the Super Bowl 57.
We saw him play great in the championship game. So you know he's capable of it, and that to me is where, when I say there's a problem, not that they can't do it, it's why don't they do it in those situations where it's there in front of them? I don't know if that even comes into play. Like, can the Chiefs once again stop the run game of the opponent and hold Saquon Barkley under 100 yards and force Jalen Hurts to drop back and play football that way? I don't know if they can, and so I don't know if that's going to come into play. But that's my big question, is when they get into those moments, do they have the complexity offensively? Can Jalen play a little bit more on schedule in those situations and make the plays in front of him? Well, I guess the Chiefs will have to put points up on the board, too, in conjunction with stopping the run to force that action, right?
Yeah, exactly. Because we don't talk about the Chiefs' running game, and that was a crucial part of their victory two years ago. It was, yeah. Against the Eagles. I mean, Isaiah Pacheco had a breakout sort of moment in that game. Mahomes with the gimpy ankle was running his head off, which is kind of typical for Patrick Mahomes. So I guess when it comes down to it, that's where Jalen Carter will be able to affect this game, I imagine. You would think.
And you're right. The Chiefs have really kind of played the game to kind of muddle the game up. We want to keep it low scoring.
Last week, your championship weekend, was the first time they scored 30 points all year long, which is unfathomable that they didn't fall into 30 points at one point, but that's how they play. We want to get first downs. We want to move the chains. We want to keep Saquon and company off the field. And we want this to be a mid-20s type football game. And so, yes, Jalen Carter can play a role in that. But what I believe the Chiefs are going to do is they're going to get the ball out of Patrick Mahomes' hands quickly.
RPOs. Quick throws like I was talking about to Xavier Worthy. They'll run the ball, and they're happy to run the ball for three yards at a pop. They're not looking to get, they would love the 70-yard touchdown like Saquon.
But they're not looking for that. They're just saying, let's stay on schedule so we can give it to Patrick in third and two, third and three, because we know he's going to make that play most of the time and keep the drive going. So, I think they want to play a completely different game than the 38-35 last time high-scoring game.
We want to keep this in the low 20s. We want to control the football. And we want to give Patrick the ball with one drive to go win it for us. And it doesn't matter if it's one score game or not, right? But, obviously, if it's one drive at the end, so many people have been saying whoever gets the ball last is going to win this game.
Right. Well, what do you say? I mean, what's your expert prediction? I know you're going to have to give it to Sunday.
I'm going to give it on Sunday. So, here's what I'm leaning towards right now. I mean, I've already made the argument that I think the Eagles are the better team. And so, I am leaning towards the Eagles to win this football game. I think there's more ways in which they can win.
I don't know what that looks like. I don't know if they're going to have to jump out and win this thing big if they're going to win it instead of giving it back to Patrick Mahomes. But, you know, again, too many questions in my mind on how the Chiefs are 15-1 outside of just having the key components that win the close games. We talked about it all year. Are they lucky or are they good?
They're really good. There's no question about it. But, I believe the Eagles are the better team.
I believe the Eagles are going to stop history. That was Ask the Expert right here on the Rich Eisen Show presented by Turbo Tax. Hand off your taxes to a Turbo Tax full-service expert this year. They do your taxes.
You get back to life. Now, this is taxes. How are they 15-1, Kurt? Well, they're lucky in the refs, remember? Oh, the refs.
You've been following that. Can you imagine sitting on the Super Bowl podium after getting here and you're trying for a three-peat and people asking you about the refs calls? Like, come on, guys. Let's be classic. Let's be classy. That's ridiculous. But, they're good. Please go on. Please go on.
Because I keep being bombarded by the guy to my right, other people who come in here who really feel that there is some sort of thumbprint. Because, you know, whether it's you think that the Chiefs have favor just because that always happens with teams that are dynastic. Or, you know, my buddy comedian Bill Burr came on here and said it's more interesting to have somebody that could chase Brady in the Patriots. So, let's keep, you know, like forget about the seven that Brady had.
Let's just keep amassing here so there'll be interest over the next ten years, you know. Yeah, I was just talking to Andre Reid. Obviously, you know, he's got, you know, the Bills side of things. And so, we were talking about the championship game and, you know, he brings up the worthy catch. Was it a catch? Was it an interception?
Did it touch the ground? Obviously, he brought up the fourth down, you know, quarterback sneak. And the other way to look at it is like for worthy to go up and do what he did to make it even a question that he did catch it, did it touch. Like, it was an incredible play. Amazing play. The Chiefs, the number of times that they stopped Josh Allen on that to make it so close that we can sit here and go, I'm not sure if he got across the line.
I think he did, but I'm not sure. Well, yeah, I think it was a catch or maybe it touched. Like, they make those plays in the moment so we can talk about the refs or we can talk about, you know, those. But it's like they did it well enough to make it where we can sit back and go, I see why they called it a catch. I see why they called it a stop, even if we don't agree with it. And that's to me where, you know, when you have all these conspiracy theorists and the scripts that are laid out there, that's the thing about the Chiefs that's amazing. Is that they have different guys that step up in those moments and they give their team a chance over and over again. And that's where you just have to tip your tat. I don't know how they do it and how they ask the rookie, hey, you got to go make a one handed catch in this moment over the top of a defender if we're going to win the AFC Championship game.
And the guy goes and does it. It's just it's incredible that they've been able to piece this together. Well, when in your career did you first realize you were getting all the calls, Kurt?
When did that happen in your career? You know, we beat people by 30 points a game, so we didn't have to worry about that. Did we stop them on fourth down? I'm just playing.
No, no, no. That's my favorite Kurt Warner. There's very different versions of Kurt Warner. Let's look at Kurt's 99 season real quick. There's underrated red ass Kurt Warner. There's underrated boastful Kurt Warner. That one just came out right there. Goofy Kurt Warner. I saw that last night as he was going down the red carpet last night at the Kelsey event.
His lovely wife, Brenda, he's going through the line. And I said, I just snapped a photograph saying over here, sir, over here, like part of the paparazzi right there. There it is. OK, right there. We try we try to keep those in the background, though. We try not to share most of those. All right.
Those people very often. You get them. You get them. You get them. I get them all.
I got to pull them out of me. That's right. I got it.
Which is the one that everyone knows. We were beating everyone by 30 points like we didn't need it. In 1999, 13 and three of your 13 wins, 12 were by at least three scores. Right. Three scores. Yeah.
A dozen games by three scores. I know. I know. That's what I mean.
So we didn't have to worry about the one play at the end where people going, oh, you got the call. So I didn't think about it as much. I mean, that makes sense.
That makes complete sense. You know, I was trying to be boastful. I was just trying to be honest. Just factual.
Think about it. Yeah. Just the facts, man. Just a fact.
You're not cocky or conceited. You're just convinced. Right. Yeah. Right. Twelve victories by three scores.
Plus. Well, there were a lot of them, like thirty five to seven, thirty eight to ten. How many were against Mooch? How many were against Mooch?
Those are your favorites. That was twenty. That was twenty three seven. So one. But we had another one in there.
Like fifty five to twenty three or something. That was one against Mooch. Well, yeah.
Was Mooch San Francisco then? Was that, yeah. Fourth.
The fourth game of the year. Oh, yeah. Forty two twenty.
Forty two twenty. Yeah. Okay.
Twenty two points. Who was your backup that season? Fantastic.
What's that? Who was your backup that season? Paul Justin.
Okay. He must have got a lot of playing time then, right? He got some playing time.
You needed your reps, man. No. That was a different era, too. Yeah. We would get out in the third quarter. It's not like now where these guys are playing up thirty five points in the fourth quarter. That's true.
You only had four hundred ninety nine attempts that year. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
It was different. Like these guys now, they'll have seven hundred and some attempts. Well, Brady.
Brady's last season. He set the record. Like seven fifty.
Seven fifty. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. Like, I always say that when these guys are great in this era, but they're like, hey, you know, Justin Herbert passed so and so. Steve Young for fastest whatever. And I'm like, can we look at attempts and not just games?
Because games nowadays, these guys have like three extra seasons that they've played because of past attempts. All right. Anyways, that's that's the other soapbox that I'm on. That's it. Axe grinding. Kurt Warner is another of my favorite. One of my favorites. Axe grinding.
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Learn more at americanexpress.com slash Amex Business. We are back here on the Rich Eisen Show here in New Orleans. This is not weird at all. As George Kittle sits a full chair away from me, he has placed his Little Caesar's cheese. What is it? What is that? Crazy Puffs. Crazy Puffs. Oh, wow. Yeah.
They're crazy. In between us. Puffy. Not weird at all. You don't want to sit any closer or what's up?
Well, look, the last time I was on your show, Rich, you left, well, there was a pillow with your face on it. Actually, we have something teed up because I had a feeling you were going to bring this up. Yeah. Instantly. Roll tape.
Roll the tape. I'm great. What do you have there? I was sitting in your green room and I was back there for like longer than five minutes and so I started exploring and I found a closet and I found a pillow with your face on it. I'm going to probably take this home with me just so you know that. Please do. Get it out of here. This is going to be... Now, how do you explain that to your wife?
Oh, what do you mean? She's going to say it looks beautiful. She's going to go right on my couch. Which couch?
She's going to be like, will you please put Rich away? And I will say, no, no, he's here with me tonight. So that was good. So you did take the pillow home. And you signed it. Right.
That's true. You signed it around the face. I did. And so it was in... So it went to California with me and then I put it in my car and I shipped it back to Nashville. I appreciate it. And it was in my barn along with like... it was in a bag with like a couple of jerseys that some guys had signed for me this year. And so it's an important bag. So I know you're in the important bag, Rich. I appreciate that.
Thank you, George. Yep. And then we have a new puppy. His name is Hobbs from Calvin and Hobbs.
Nice. He's a great Pyrenees slash golden retriever mix. And he's about as boy dog as you can possibly get. Very goofy and just runs into doors and likes to mark his territory.
And he just likes to pee in my barn sometimes and he just found your pillow and peed right on your face. Oh my God. What? Now, he missed most of it, but your face was hit.
Oh no. It was hit. Okay. Your face was hit. Nothing else in the bag was hit, thankfully. And we did clean it.
Okay. We cleaned it. You're still in the barn, but now you're on the couch in the barn, which is a safe place. But you were peed on by my dog. And so that's what this space is for because I didn't want you to hit me. I would never do that. I don't know.
I would never hold anything against you, George. Hopefully just that pillow. Let alone. Right. And so I'm getting ready for the show the other day. Like it was the last week, I think.
It was the last week. I just ran a phone call. I looked down at my phone.
It says, George Kittle. I'm like, hey, George, what's going on? You're like, hey, my dog peed on your face. So sorry. Sorry.
And he's like, what? We may have video of it. Didn't have video. Unfortunate. I actually screen grabbed our text exchange, if you don't mind, George. So I said, I can't text you anything now, can I?
No, you can't. Well, certainly. Well, just when it comes to your dog peeing on my face on the pillow, I said, please tell me there's some video of it. You wrote negative, brutal. I said, you know, a crushing blow. You said, I'll get him to do it again.
Oh, yeah. So you seem interested in it. I'll work on it.
I'll send you the clip. I'll work on it. I am interested in it. Yeah. I will work on it. I'm interested in it. I see.
That's a good way to spend your first couple minutes of rich eyes. And ladies and gentlemen, George Kittle here. George Kittle is here, courtesy of Little Caesars. Pizza, pizza.
What do you got here? Oh, I have crazy puffs. And I think if these are the crazy puffs, I think, oh, yeah, these are our new crazy puffs. They have bacon on them.
I can give them to you. These are these are the edible ones. These aren't the ones that they paint on and stuff. These are very edible.
OK. They still look that good. OK. My favorite thing about crazy puffs, besides being the sponsor of Super Bowl 59 for the NFL, which is pretty cool. They sponsored my Halloween party for the San Francisco 49ers this year. And they sent us like 20 plus box of these things. And after I think the first person to try it was Kyle Juszczak. And he told an offensive lineman and then 40 seconds later, all 20 boxes were gone. These things are so good. They're dangerously good. Do we know who on the line was the culprit?
It was either Aaron Banks or Colt McKibbetts. Those two crushed them. It was pretty fun. They did crush them.
Oh, crush the crazy puffs. What were you for your Halloween party? I was the Mandalorian and my wife was Padme. I know that those timelines don't cross over. Sorry, guys. Nerd alert. Yeah, nerd alert.
But my bad. But I had a friend of the 49ers, he runs one of the fan accounts. He had like a team from the Mandalorian TV show built his.
So he put me in contact with them. And so mine is like studio quality. Wow. And it's one of the coolest things I've ever owned.
And I can't wait to wear it for many Halloweens to come. George Kittle, everybody. That's some. Hey, George, let's just be honest, though, I don't think this is you concerned that I'm going to actually physically assault you because your dog assaulted the pillow with my face on it. Do you not want to be close to this trophy?
I will when I earn it. So you legitimately took a seat over because the Vince Lombardi trophy is next. There were three things that went into my decision to sit here. One, the first thing was I figured that no one had sat in this chair yet.
You'd be correct. Bert did sit there. But Jayden Daniels is also here.
Bert Kreischer is the other individual who sat in the seat. I thought I could smell him. I thought I could. Yeah, that's correct. Number two was I didn't want you to hit me for the pee.
And three was I'll be close to that when I've earned it. You really feel that way? I don't know. It's just kind of weird. I feel weird sometimes, man. Don't judge me for it. I'm not judging.
I think it's kind of cool, though, that you don't want to... Like how hockey players don't touch the NFC-AFC championship trophies? Right. I see that.
I'm good. I'll get there someday. I don't see you're not looking at it, too.
You're looking directly at... Well, there you go. I can see myself in it. It is pretty cool.
Multiple places. It's a beautiful trophy. Is that the real one? It is.
Oh, geez Louise. It is that. It's pretty cool.
That's heavy. Why would you even ask that? I only get the real one. I don't know. Yeah.
We do have the... The box is around. There's a box with the white gloves.
Yeah. So you know... Did you get to pick it up yourself? I did. I had to place it down. Somebody had to place it down.
But I put the white gloves on it, and then I backed off. Well, I wasn't sure, because with the Stanley Cup, there's guys that follow it everywhere they go. Is that not how this is? That is not how... Because each team gets their own?
There used to be. I did a pregame show. I was telling these guys the first... The second Super Bowl NFL Network covered was Andy Reid, Eagles versus Brady and the Patriots when they went and repeated. And Terry Bradshaw was on our set with Howie Long on live television pregame show with the trophy. And Terry got up to grab it, and somebody in a yellow slicker came running on the set and told him, back off.
Hey, don't do that. That actually happened. That's sick. On live NFL Network television. That'd be awesome. So you appreciate it.
I would love to be that guy. So before I let you go, man, what do you think about this Super Bowl matchup? What do you think about it? Let's see. I think that the Eagles' offensive line has been playing very stellar. I mean, what, they had three pro bowlers? That's solid.
Yeah. Saquon Barkley is running really, really well. Their passing game is doing more than enough to what it needs to do. So I think their offense is playing a high level. I didn't play the Eagles this year, so I know that their defense is playing a high level too.
Mike Linebacker, he was a first team all-pro, right, with Fred. So they've got players on offense and defense. And I think the Chiefs' offense is going to do what the Chiefs' offense is going to do. They're going to move the ball methodically. They're going to score points.
It just is what it is. I think the whole battle to watch is the Chiefs' defense versus Eagles' offense. I think the Eagles' defense is going to make plays. They're going to stop in the homes a couple times, but the Chiefs are going to score points.
It's just what they do. And then it's all in spags blitzing. And if the Eagles can handle it. That's how I see it.
So who do you think wins? Yes. Yep.
Can't wait to watch that. Okay. Yeah.
Turn it down. Were you watching in the barn? Were you watching it? Are you sticking around?
I don't know if I can say this, but I will be, I have a gun range on my property and I'll be probably just playing with my guns. That's pretty much it? You're not going to watch the game?
The only way I watch is if my wife makes me watch it because she loves watching football, but I'm not really a huge fan of watching a game that I'm not playing in. So you would literally just stroll in and go, what's the score? Just wondering what it is. I'll have my phone next to me. Okay. Yeah. That's about it. All right. Wow.
You're hardcore. I totally get it. It doesn't really do, you know, like it's more of just kind of like sitting here and it's like, you just can't handle it, huh? It's tough. My wife makes me watch it and it's just, it is what it is, but it's just like, I got other things I could do. Yeah, man.
I do love football though, so I'll probably watch part of it. Okay. Well, thanks for coming on. Thank you, Rich. I appreciate it.
The good folks at Little Caesars are taking you around other places. They are. I appreciate the crazy puffs. I know. Do they get to keep these crazy puffs? I was going to say, because I'm kind of hungry. I mean, just leave it. I'm going to leave it.
What are they going to do? They're warm still. Fantastic. Actually, I don't know how they keep giving me hot ones. They give me a new box for every set. They're hot every time. I wouldn't ask for details on how they keep it hot. You're right. I wouldn't ask for details either.
I would just leave it alone. Nice shirt too, man. Thank you. My mom's over there too.
I know. We just met. We just met. I met my mom Jan before, but now I see your mom. Fantastic.
She's pretty pumped to be here. First time at Radio Row. Is that so?
What time is it for you? 22. Same thing.
Just opposite ends of spectrum. I like this guy. You're fantastic. I do. I know. Thank you.
I enjoy the laughter. He gives me a lot of confidence. Thank you, sir. Rich Kittle, everybody, right here, courtesy of Little Caesars, right here on the Rich Eisen Show.
When we come back, hopefully the next San Francisco 49er will actually sit closer to the trophy. His name is Joe Montana. Ooh. That's right. Ask Joe about WWE questions.
I will do that. He has no idea. No chance.
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Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Can you tell me the story, the famous story, of you noticing John Candy in the crowd before that two-minute drill? The Bengals and your second Super Bowl win against them? Yeah. It was kind of funny because, as you know, TV timeouts are forever in the Super Bowl. Tell me about it. I had been to the sideline once, maybe even twice, and we were just standing out there waiting for the signal to start to play.
I think we had the ball in the eight. Harris Barton was a people person, so we were free for dinner during the week, but practiced in meetings and then come back after dinner and more meetings. When he would come back from dinner, he was like a little kid.
He could not wait to tell you about all the celebrities he saw while he was at dinner. We were just standing there, and between the tight end and his shoulder was a frame John Candy. In the crowd. He was on the sideline. Oh, he was on the sideline. I sat there, and I looked, and I go, dang it, I don't remember Harris saying he saw John Candy.
This is what you're thinking in the Super Bowl with minutes to go and needing to drive down the field. Yeah. Well, yeah. So I walked over and said, hey, H, man, there's John Candy. Harris stood like this for eight minutes, perfectly still, he was a little bit anal that way. He would not move. He was like little.
I didn't do it to unwind him. I just thought he would appreciate John Candy. But he started mumbling some things, Super Bowl, you want to do a boop to that candy?
What do you know what it's going to be? I don't know what he said completely. I understood a few words, but now he appreciates it now more than he did back then before we started the drive. Did you ever meet Candy? Or that was the only time? Yeah, no, I had met John a few years before that. My contract was up, and he was one of the owners of the Toronto Argonauts. He was trying to get me to go to Canada. Come on. Yeah.
They just didn't have enough money. But if the price was right, I might have been wearing an Argonaut uniform. Yeah, you'd have a 55 yard line. He'd be like, I'll do that. So he legitimately said, you know, hey, you know, we had a couple meetings about you did. So this is real. Like it wasn't just like, oh, by the way, no, no, no, no. Wow. I love that. Joe Montana making his way to yet another Rich Eisen show at the Super Bowl in a matter of moments.
He's going to stroll out and sit down in the chair, hopefully next to me. Well, he's comfortable with the trophy. So he's won it three times. Four. Oh, that's right. So yeah. Yeah. Four times, man. Yeah, that was the gold standard for all those years.
A long time. You know, guys, I think we're so caught up on this, can the Chiefs, you know, win three in a row? This three peeping that we're missing the bigger picture is my homes. If he wins, we'll be four, right? Like, yeah, I think people just have this three in their mind.
They even realize before he turns 30. It's not even three. It's four. Yeah.
The equals Joe and Terry. Yeah. Before he turns 30. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear that?
Yeah. So he's got years to go. Miles to go.
Miles to go before us. Come on out, Joe. Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Montana making his way to our set right here on the program. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Good to see you.
Pleasure. Friggin' Montana, everybody. How's everything?
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Great. Did a guy send you a picture of me? A guy sent you a picture of you.
That's right. His name is Reid Bergman. You were taking a picture with his lovely daughter. And this is, I sadly cut his lovely daughter out of the photograph because I just don't know if he wants her on camera. But there you are, Joe, wearing Rich Eisen Show gear.
That's right. Every day. Every day at home. I mean, I saw this, I'm like, wow. Every day.
And this is just like out and about. I appreciate you repping. No, no. It's my pleasure. My pleasure. It's always good to be here. Some good swag, Rich.
Yeah. Just trying to do my best for you. I appreciate it, Joe. You're a team player. Spreading the name. You're a team player.
That's what you're known for. I thought you were in Atlanta because you were hoping to see a national championship for Notre Dame. Right? Is that where you were?
Yeah. Don't remind me. I'm sorry.
Well, they fell asleep in the middle of the game there for a while. As you know, I'm a Michigan Wolverine. So I, for the only time in my life, rooted for Notre Dame. That night. So I don't know if it was me, you know, joining forces with you that caused this to happen.
No. Must have been. It was a, you know, they got off to a great start and then, I don't know, they just kind of looked like a completely different team after the first time. I was like, wow, what happened? And then we actually left early and it was, we were catching a flight home with, catching a ride. So I'd offered a ride by some friends back on a private plane. So we left a little bit early, two Notre Dame people. So we were sitting there going, and then we're listening on the way and we're going, oh my gosh.
That's the best part of the game. I know. It got close at the end.
A little bit. I'm not sure why they went bump and run against that guy. That guy is unbelievable. You talk about Jeremiah Smith, he is unbelievable.
So let me just jump into some good old fashioned memory lane stuff, Joe. When did you realize Jerry Rice was particularly special for the first time? Do you remember that? It was in practice, really. Well, the first couple of days of practice, he struggled, to be honest with you.
He laughed about it. But like, I think balls hit him in the face and everywhere, so he was trying too hard. But the unique thing about him was the first time he, in practice, guys catch balls in practice. You know, they teach receivers to catch a ball, turn and run 10, 15 yards up the field and just to get used to making those moves. He catches the ball. And I think the first time it was like, he runs like 40 or 60 yards and scores a touch and it crosses the end zone and we're like, come on, our practices aren't timed. We have to get in a certain amount of plays.
So the longer he will wait for guys to get back to the huddle, the longer a day time. And go, you're the first round pick. Come on, man.
What are you doing? But you found out that that was his work ethic, right? Every time he touched the ball, he would run to the end zone and score nine yards, he didn't matter to him. And you ask yourself, is it a coincidence that he's NFL's all-time touchdown reception leader? You go, no, that's what he did every day, right? He did that every day of practice and it became contagious because then you would, it was the craziest thing because you would throw the ball to John Taylor and John Taylor would then would do that. You hand a ball to Roger Craig and then he would do it. And then sometimes you'd catch all three of them running, racing down to the end zone.
And the things you forget about is how, how the little things sometimes make a difference. We're playing the Rams in LA and we were usually played well down there, but we were behind and we were getting bad field position. And we're on the four yard line. I take a three step drop, throw a slant to John Taylor. He goes 96 for a touchdown, but Jerry was all the way down in the end on the other side, throwing a block to get him in the end zone. Now we get the ball again, we're on the six yard line, same three steps, same slant. He goes 94 for a touchdown. And Jerry is all the way down the field blocking again to get him into the end zone. So after that, I'm sitting there going, he can do whatever he wants because I just thrown two passes for 14 yards, but in the books, that's 192 touchdowns.
Go ahead guys. And when did Bill Walsh and you start to connect in what you know is a meaningful way now looking back with you and Walsh? I think one of the things that Bill did with me was like, he put me into positions that were sometimes somewhat embarrassing with Steve DeBerg. Steve would drive the team and then they get in the red zone and they'd take him out.
He'd pretend like he's hurt and I'd go in. But he just handled me a little bit differently. And then I think one of the things he, once he figured out that I figured out the offense and what his offense was about, was that he's going to call, we're going to try to get the ball down the field, especially early on. We didn't have Jerry and we didn't have JT and Dwight was there, but Freddy Solomon was on the backside of his career and I said, I don't want you to force it. And I'm going to give you these other guys down here. And those guys eventually are the guys that ended up saying, look, I can get the ball to them.
They can go the distance just like JT did, right? Well, you don't have to force ourselves down the field. You'll be a time where you have to force the ball. But for the most part, first down defense, here's how defenses think. First down, you hear it on TV even, hand the ball off, four yards, right? Can't give up four yards on a run on first down. First down, drop back to pass, up, don't like that down there, drop the ball to the tight end, four yards, same four yards, but the defense going, oh, we stopped them, right? Because it was a pass and we got four yards, but it's the same four yards. And that was kind of like part of our running game. And so I got to the understanding that it was okay to do that and we would just meticulously move the ball down the field.
And now every now and then we get a gain or a big chunk out of the receivers. But for the most part, he did not want you to make a mistake and try to force things if you didn't have to. The famous photo where you're drawing up a play in the dirt in Canada, you remember what play that was? What was that?
No, you know what? I forget what game it was, but I was exhausted. And I came off the, he jokes about it, but we came off the field and I got down on my knee and I said, I'll be up, just give me a second coach. And he goes, no, no, no, stay there, I'll come down to you. And we just start talking about the play that was going to be called out. I don't remember what it was, but I mean, that was, that was, it was just the way it was.
And you had no idea that somebody was coming in and taking a picture of that. No. Wow. Yeah. I don't know if you're aware of this, but I have told this to Steve Young himself. Steve Mariucci once fired off a timeout in a game that the Niners were winning. Do you know this? Uh-uh. Because he wanted to recreate that photograph with Steve Young.
I didn't know that. Fired off a timeout and in a game like in the third quarter, they're up against it over Atlanta by double digits and Mooch is firing off a timeout and Steve Young didn't want to come back to the sideline. What are you doing? Like, let's, you know, let's keep this thing going. He called Young over and he said to take a knee. He got down and he told the photographer, get ready.
And it just at that moment, the Gatorade kid came up and went and gave Steve some Gatorade and got right in the way and he never got the picture. Oh, I'll have to give him some, I'll see Mooch comes here soon. Please tell him.
I will do that. That was really weak sauce on his part. Used an actual timeout in an actual NFL game to try to recreate. That's funny. That is a story. That's a good one. It is a good one.
I'd love to. That's the first I've heard that tune. It is a true story that actually happened. What goes through your mind when you hear that Mahomes could tie your four Super Bowls, you know, which, you know, for years, you and Bradshaw, that was the standard. He could tie it before he turns 30. I know.
I mean, he's got a great career, obviously off to a great start and a long way ahead of him. And, you know, I always look back and on it and say, look, I'm not a record person. I don't have any records in high school, I don't have any records in college.
I don't have records in the NFL. So I'm not really a person that lives in the past. So I just try to enjoy the days as much as I can. People bring the past up to you all the time. But it's not like, you know, that's how I live my life. I've got a wife of 40 years coming up at the end of this month, four great kids and three grandkids right now.
And so we try to live that life around there. You never pop on YouTube for the grandkids and say, here's what grandpa used to do? No, not at all.
That doesn't happen? No, not at all. No. No.
I can't tell you the last time I was on YouTube or maybe YouTube TV. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't.
I'm in the tech business right now, but I'm not a tech person. Sure. Yeah. Just because my kids, hey, how do I do this?
Show me how to do that. I love it. So what are you doing with Pfizer, Joe? Well, I've been with Pfizer about a few years now. And we've been talking about pneumococcal pneumonia for a year or two now. We've seen a little more of it on TV, and right now the CDC has just lowered the at risk rate age limit from 65 to 50. So 50 and above, you're six times more likely acceptable to the disease. So we're just talking about getting with your doctor, getting with your pharmacist and talk about vaccination because it can help. I got vaccinated for it, and we're just trying to keep people healthy.
They got a great website called VaxAssist.com, V-A-X-Assist.com, and with a lot of great information. If you want to get on there and jump on there and get with your doctor. Yeah.
That's to schedule your vaccination appointment. Do you have any thoughts on who wins this football game, Joe? It's so hard to bet against the Chiefs. I think everybody's pulling for Philly. Why is that? Everybody just says they're tired of the Chiefs winning.
I go, well, I'm sorry. Did you hear that back in your day that people were tired of watching the Niners win? Not that I remember, but I don't think they would say it to the Chiefs, to the players as much. I don't remember ever hearing that, but I don't know.
I don't remember hearing about New England either. I don't remember either there being such a major drumbeat for the three-peat talk either back in the day when you had the opportunity. Like we're hearing now. I just don't know if there's more of an intense media environment now anyway.
Yeah, there's so much more of that. I think people are looking for records, right? So they're waiting for that next team to win, go undefeated through the season, which could be a long time, especially if they're talking about going to 18 games. And that's what this is right here, I think, is knowing there's never been a three-peat. A lot of people want to see a three-peat. I can't believe that history could possibly be made like this, and that there's a 29-year-old that could have four Super Bowls by the end of the week. That was just something that I always wondered if anybody could surpass, and obviously Brady did. He almost doubled it up. So you think the Chiefs pull it off?
What do you think? I think the Eagles, when you look in there, the Chiefs can run the ball. And I think the teams that win the Super Bowl can run.
In most cases, you look back on them. Even when Brady was going, they still had a pretty good running game. But Philly's got a chance. Certainly if Saquon runs.
I was just going to say, if that guy right there runs like crazy. And you can keep Patrick's touches to a minimum, but you've got to get in the end zone. You can't kick field goals against them. Although they struggled here lately in the red zone and getting in the end zone themselves. But they've got the ability to score from outside the red zone, so you don't have to worry. But I think they've got a chance, but it's hard to bet against the Chiefs, I think. The defense has been playing well. And Mahomes seems to have that knack. Only two minutes to go, just like you had, where your pulse drops, and you just focus on making the play.
I mean, that seems to be what he's got. And it didn't matter. You get a penalty, and they don't care.
They get pushed back another 10 yards, and it doesn't bother them. Well, everybody go to vaxassist.com to schedule your vaccination appointment. Joe Montana here, courtesy of Pfizer. I've got another gift bag for you, Joe. Okay, new gear.
New gear for you. Yes, sir. It's a full zip this time. All right.
A full zip. I know you're a big Roku guy, so there's some Roku stuff in there for you. Appreciate it. Come on now, man. Thank you. I've got to treat you right.
I've got to treat you right. I've got Joe Montana right here on the Rich Eyes and Show. Greg Olson's about to join us next, right here from New Orleans. Don't go anywhere.
We're still sitting here on the Roku channel for a couple more minutes. Do you have a favorite John Madden story? You got one from me where maybe he was at a practice or in a broadcast meeting or you saw him later in life.
You got one? I don't have any stories with him very much. I saw him all the time, but it was more listening to him and his sound effects that he did. He was just a special person.
He's one of those guys. All the guys that played for him said they'd do anything for him. He was just that special of a guy at the same time. The way I think a lot of people felt about Bill before he passed away. I don't know why he got out.
He retired way too soon, myself. Who? Bill? Bill, yeah. You think so? Yeah.
He handed the Super Bowl teams. The joints? Yeah. I know.
Right. I just don't know how he did that. I think he had a lot of pressure. It was my guess because he tried to take on the GM role at the same time. I think that was just weight on him tremendously. What do you think the Niners should do with Brock Purdy?
You got to pay him. I can show you four or five guys in the league making tons of money that haven't produced anywhere near what he's been able to do. They just had one of those years where guys are getting hurt offensively, defensively. Craziness in the beginning of the year with the trade, talking trades with the wide receiver and then he gets hurt.
They just had one of those years where you just can't wait to get behind you. Just chalk it up to that. Yeah.
Move on. But you think Purdy is the quarterback of the future, pay him? Yeah.
I think he's got a good understanding. I think one of the things I thought they pressed a little bit towards the end every time they got behind. You saw Purdy get sacked more times. First of all, you've got some offensive linemen who are hurt and so now you're making him hold the ball longer. Sometimes, I don't know, it's only on TV that I can see, which I hate to make the judgment, but when the guy gets sacked and I can't see a wide receiver or any receiver on the screen, it looks like they're trying to push the ball down the field and that's not what they do.
That's not typically what they do. Yeah. I think it was just right from the get-go, McCaffrey's not playing, he's got not one but two Achilles injuries to deal with.
It wasn't their year. Thanks for coming, Joe Montana. You bet. My pleasure. Always a pleasure to be here. Right back at you. It's an honor and it's a pleasure to always be able to include you. And then have you, the walking billboard for the Rich Eisen Show, Joe Montana, everybody.
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