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Well, I give a damn about The Rich Eisen Show with guest host Tom Pellicero. God, I love that guy. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Woo-hoo! Victor Wembinyama, six feet behind the line.
Today's guests, NFL Network Insider Mike Garifolo, Pro Football Hall of Famer Randy Moss, and now, sitting in for Rich, it's Tom Pellisero. Welcome to a Rich Eisenless edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Tom Pillicero, pleased to be here in studio in Los Angeles with my boys in the studio, Chris Brockman. Hey, Tommy, with the fresh with a full night of sleep. Oh, the bags.
And after two overtimes, the bags came. I was able to shave and brush my teeth and all that. You don't have a backup chamber? Come on. Backup shaver?
No, were the bags in one piece.
So you got to cycle back yesterday. You were on very little sleep. Very little sleep. Bags left after a golf tournament. Yep.
Bags didn't make the connection. Had to pick him up yesterday afternoon. Everything was there, everything was great. Bags, clubs, all in one piece. Able to Shave, get the trophies.
Oh, the trophy. I will break out the trophy. I did bring it. It actually made it in one piece and you put in your checked luggage. The trophy is great.
We'll do it later. I once had a bag get fall off the cart at Gate Check. Showed up the next day completely soaking wet because it had rained overnight in Indianapolis. That was not the way to come back from the combine. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Not ideal. No. Mike Del Tufo here two days in a row setting this old record 2026 and TJ Jefferson. How are we doing? What up, though?
I'm just here recording for you. Recording. Yeah. For you. Rich.
Then the Mike. It's mostly. It is mostly. Like, hey, what's up? There it is.
Mostly for Rich, who hates it, loves nothing more. Than the time wasted on this show recording a video as I say hello. Victor Wemanyama. Oh man, when be time it is fascinating to watch that game play out. Because Listen, we have seen some really good moments with Wemby in the playoffs.
We have seen. Stretches, even games where he has not played well. But when it's on, And when the other team appears to have absolutely no answers for anything he does. You do get that feeling that we're witnessing something that we have not. witnessed before.
22 years old. As of last night, the youngest player ever to have 40 points and 20 rebounds in a playoff game. In NBA history. And the way that he did it. in every regard across the court.
He made one three-pointer in that game, only attempted two. That one three-pointer is a 28-footer on the run. With the game on the line, 10 seconds to go, and needing a three to send it to a second overtime. Splat. Amazing.
There's so many plays. Like, what is he doing? There's so many ways that that can go right there. And there are players who, with 10 seconds left, are thinking, I'm going to go to the cup here. I'm going to try to get an and one or at least get the two, extend the game.
We foul. You could try to get a couple steps closer. You're seven foot three. You probably don't need to have eight feet between you and the defender as you pull the trigger. But if you looked at the fans.
After he makes that shot, they know it's over, man. There's just every angle I saw was fans just going, that was not supposed to happen. That man in that body. is not supposed to make that shot. In that moment.
From that spot. From 28 feet out. I thought it was closer to 30. The experts say it was 28. It was a long way.
Terico brought it back, too. Remember what years? Was it 2016, 2017? Steph made a shot in the building from the exact same spot. Steph was a little deeper.
Was it a little deeper? I mean, it felt like 30 feet. Steph's always a little deeper. He's about 12 inches, 14 inches deeper, so he's got to shoot it farther technically. But the thing about taste the body doesn't have the wingspan and the size.
Steph's was it was a regular season game, if I recall correctly. This is a playoff game to go to the finals and he pulls up like that. It is what he's doing under the basket on defense. the way that it's impacting everything else on the floor. Everything.
The fact that he plays so much of the game facing the basket at his size, like I've understood when Nikola Jokic is playing well. Which he did not play well in the playoffs this year. But when they were at their best, when they were winning an NBA title, a lot of his game was still back to the basket and just being a big brute who could work you down, dare the double team to come and then pass out of it. Wemby plays so much of his game facing the basket because there's so many different ways that he can beat you. He opened that night.
Watching the ceremony As Shea Gildis Alexander gets presented. The MVP trophy. Mm-hmm. That is how the night begins. It's a a celebratory moment.
For SGA, second consecutive MVP. And Wemby, who, at least facially, does not show a lot of outward emotion during the game. After the game, he was asked about. A couple of things. The m the message that was sent and also what it felt like.
watching someone else hold that trophy. Just curious if that was in your mind at all knowing that Shea had got that award and you were in the top three for it and you know did any part of tonight feel personal? I d some of your facial expressions kind of look like you were really, really going for it. Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said.
Yeah. What does it feel like to see someone else get the MVP trophy right before you step into, I guess, what is basically the biggest game of your career and then to have the best performance of your career? Feels like. Yeah. I want to get that trophy, you know, many times in my career.
So, a small how to ask a question in a press conference note there. Don't give every possible answer and then ask a yes-no question. Right. But that is. It's a brilliant answer by Webby.
Yes, everything you said. I don't need to say it, but everything you said is absolutely true. Yes, it was personal. Yes, I was feeling it. Yeah, not that you need any additional motivation in game one of the Western Conference Finals, but yes.
I came in with a chip on my shoulder. I wanted this more than anybody else. Your words, not mine. Mm-hmm. I felt a certain type of way watching SGA.
Get that trophy. I mean look at this is not for a T V audience. The extension here, look at the distance from the basket as he's throwing this down. The alley oop and the block late. Everything he does comes from angles that would be impossible for any other player right now.
in the NBA. And again. Uh Chet Holmgren and Victor Wemben Yama. That is 15 feet and almost 400 pounds of pure battle between the two of them right there. I love that they do not like each other.
That was not much of a battle last.
Well, I mean, Chet gets the block at the end of regulation. You sent it to overtime. One of the few times you caught Wemby off balance, there it is right there. Stacks up against one another. Like I'm saying, this was not.
I know, but that was a sick play by Chet, man. Great. Like, but great. 30 seconds left. He's going to throw up a floater and they're going to win this at the buzzer.
And Chet said, nuh-uh. I can't believe we're even trying to give Chet props. Like, Chet comes. I'm talking about props on this play. All right.
But. He took that shot to the face and crumbled into a mess and didn't get the flagrant call, but he did. That's the most memorable thing besides the block, I think, from Chet in that game. I thought, and listen, we can argue. I know you'd like to TJ the value of plus-minus in these games.
Wemby's plus 16 last night. Shea is minus 15. They only lost the game by seven points, which means the Thunder are plus eight. With SGA off the court. The NBA MVP off the court.
and minus 15 with him on it. He goes 7-23 from the field. That tends to be what happens. He did turn it on late, obviously, made some plays. That's a rough game to be handed that trophy.
And come out the way that SGA and the Thunder did. I have been saying this for a while: that it is going to be Victors League at some point. We just saw who the best player in the league is, hands down. I don't care who has the MVP trophy. Wemby is the best player in the NBA, and I don't think he's going to give this up.
for like seven, eight years if he doesn't get injured. Here's what Mitch Johnson had to say post game about Wemby's performance as well. I thought his level of physicality and execution through physicality was tremendous. Um, his rebounding obviously shows itself in the box score, but was off the charts defensively. He was in a stance almost all night.
Um. And I thought he did a good job of... And the guys along with him just being stubborn in terms of they made some shots and they did obviously. You got to give up something when you try to take things away. And at times, when they made shots or they made us pay for whatever we were trying to do, we stuck with it.
And, um,. He led the way. I mean, that that's 49 big minutes, and it was high level for the majority of those. I know it's loud in Oklahoma City. Mitch is going to need a lozenge.
We're going to need to get him a nice cup of hot tea sometime before game two. That is a man who has used all the voice that he possibly could muster over the past 24 hours here. Here's where. These debates become hard for me, and this is across all sports. Is when we immediately jump to last night's the night when we became the best player in the NBA.
This was the moment. And I saw in reading various stories this morning. This was the broad take from people who cover the NBA for a living. I cover the NFL. I'm familiar with the hot takes and the recency bias, and this is taking nothing away from Wemby, who is clearly one of the best players in the NBA over the course of this season.
In my mind, what we're talking about, the best, not the most talented. Which Wemby certainly has a case for. It's probably an open and shut case at this point.
Well, we're talking about the best. In my mind, we're still talking about the people who do it again and again and again. It is not the quarterback that gets hot down the stretch. It's not the hitter that has a really good World Series. It's the guy who.
Time and again, game after game, opportunity after opportunity, delivers at a higher rate than everybody else. Because nobody is 100% at anything. in pro sports. You're going to miss shots. You're going to strike out.
You're going to throw an interception. But how do you minimize the number of times that you are not At your Best. And so to me, we have seen. Wemby, at times in these playoffs, people have figured him out. People have at least for a quarter.
even a full game at times. or half a game when he tries to decapitate Nas Reed with an elbow. They have figured out ways here to get under his skin to throw him off his game. Which Was what came to mind when we heard Mark Dagenault, the Oklahoma City Thunder coach, speak about Wemby and any potential adjustments after the game? I mean we're going to have to figure that out.
They're good schematically. They obviously have a lot of tools with the point of attack defenders and with Wem and Yama there's a reason they are where they are. But there's a reason we are where we are. And one of the things that I love about this team is our problem solving. We've been in these series before.
We've hit these types of plateaus. We gave ourselves obviously a chance to win despite that tonight. you know, with our defense and the way that we played, but um we gotta solve a few problems and be better in game two. And so this is the question. If you are in the problem-solving mindset, as Oklahoma City coming off that game.
Where do you begin? With Wemby. You have clues. In the first round, he had one game where he was not offensively efficient. I would say the first game of the Minnesota series was.
As poorly as we've seen Wemby play, if not the entire season, certainly in the playoffs. What did the Timberwolves do to him in that game? They didn't try to match him length for length. They put people who could be physical with him, challenge him, get into his body, which is hard to do. For the same reason that if you got a pass rusher with 36 inch arms, you better have an offensive tackle with really long arms too, or he's going to, no matter what you do to him, he can get around you.
He has the advantage. I don't know if that is putting a smaller person on Wemby, if it is doubling him constantly. He's a good passer, he's not a Jokic-level passer. Brockman, in your mind. If you are your starting point as the problem-solving Oklahoma City Thunder.
What are you doing matchup-wise or schematically in game two? To try to reduce him to, again, a player that not often, but we have seen when we become in these playoffs. He just had a game at TJ that it's a Russell type performance, Wilp. Those are the names that were coming to mind with what he was doing. Those guys obviously didn't shoot threes like he did, but you said he only made one, but he made the biggest one.
Of the night. I like the idea of being physical with him. I just don't know who you do it with. Is it Lou Dort who's giving up? Eight, nine inches, but maybe has the beef to do it.
Chet certainly isn't going to be physical with him. Wemby, you know, ate his launch aside from the block at the end of regulation. Um Or do you just let Wemby go wild and hope that the other guys don't beat you? It seems like that's the strategy maybe I would go for. Don't let Castle, Vesselle, all these other guys get open shots and open threes and knock those down.
I don't know. Everything you said just to come up with, I don't know, because you're right. But it feels like, it just feels like the Spurs, I know it's one game, right? But it's game one. In their building, where the MVP now gets the trophy for the second year in a row, and they just stole.
All the momentum of this series. They stole home court. The title odds are basically even now. Uh it feels like it's Despurs title to lose at this point. And the issue you have is, to your point, if you basically just dare them.
Just put everybody on Wemby, prevent him from getting it. Guys like Castle and Vassell and Harper have been hitting shots, really since the back half of the Minnesota series.
So. I tend to agree. Don't let the best player beat you. Make them beat you left-handed. The problem is, Wemby can play left-handed, right-handed, both-handed, no-handed.
And he creates mismatches every time that the ball gets near him. Tyron Fox didn't even play last night. And that also has to be answered. For Shea to go 7 to 23, a little wary right there. Shea goes 7 to 23, and it's minus 15 on a night that De'Aaron Fox, who, when we talked with Vincent Goodwell yesterday, that was one of his thoughts for how do you guard SGAs?
You throw Fox at him at times. He's not even on the floor.
So, I know this. If the Thunder are going to win this series, if they're going to be problem solvers, Their best player can't be Alex Caruso. No offense to him. No. He was amazing last night.
He was amazing. He had a game. He also was on the receiving end of the one bizarre Wemby flop in the game. If you saw when Wemby comes up to him and, for no apparent reason, 35 feet from the basket, lowers his shoulder into him and then belly flops. Mark Dagault's going, What?
That's a foul. What are we doing? What is this? Caruso, I mean, if he plays like that, great. He can't be your best player through the course of this series.
Minnesota gave up on putting Rudy Gobert. On Victor Wemanyama. Obviously game five, game six didn't go well for them, but when it worked, like in game one, that seemed to have something to it. If it ends up being you just have to throw different matchups to him until you figure it out, that's the definition of problem-solving. Ardano wants to be the ultimate problem-solving team, problem-solving coach.
You got literally the biggest problem in the NBA right now on your hands. And you've got... three to six games to figure this thing out. We can get more into this. Phone lines open throughout the course of the show.
844-204-Rich. We also got NFL news. Just moments ago, coming out of the league meeting, we will get into that. We can play the win-loss game. Loss.
Brockman, TJ, all of you listening and watching, can throw any questions you want. Tom Pellicero, Infor Rich. It's May 19th. Never too early to talk NFL. Bring on your questions right after this.
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Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show here across our radio network. We got NFL news momentarily, but since we started off the show talking about Wemby, Going for 41 and 24. In the best performance we've seen so far in these playoffs game, one of the Western Conference finals, the question was raised. If you're Oklahoma City, And you profess to be a problem-solving team. What do you do now?
Sam in Fort Worth, Texas. You got any bright ideas how the thunder can adjust to stop Wemby at this point? Tom, two things. Love it when you're there. We certainly love Susie, but love it when you're there.
One, I need you to give me a breakdown of whatever happened to Boston College. They used to cause all kinds of problems for people and seem like they've gone silent. But regarding the Thunder, a Thunder fan, I'm from Oklahoma originally. They're smart. They had six opportunities to learn about them in the regular season, if I remember right.
why are you just now going to take last night's data and learn something? You should have learned that long time ago. The thunder to me are the only team that could go zone Have height. on the sides and in the middle, and they're athletic enough to move around and cover the court, If you didn't learn something in the regular season, what did you learn last night? I don't see how you do anything but go zone on them.
Lose some pride, you're more than athletic and tall enough, unlike anyone else. I think that's their only option there. Move him outside and leave him. If he comes in the middle, you've got height to stop him. It's a great thought, Sam.
Appreciate the call. They do. I mean, they have height, and I think at this point, we can establish that you don't want. Chet Holmgren defending Wemby on a possession-in, possession-out basis through the course of the game. The issue you run into again is all those other players, even on a night without DeAren Fox, are shooting the daylights out.
It's happened throughout the playoffs, especially from about the middle of the Minnesota series on, game five, game six, and then obviously in game one, the Castles and Vesselles and Harpers of the world, not to mention De'Aaron Fox, if he's able to get back from his injury. Those guys have been deadly from the outside.
So, in essence, that goes back to what the thought was here: which was: do you just dare everybody else to beat you? Then you run into the question of, does Wemby just start shooting more threes? He took two threes last night. He made one. It was the biggest shot in the playoffs so far.
Can you Can you choose that? I don't think you can play in the NBA. You're not going to play zone the entire game, but do you mix more of that in? Do you show different looks? You run the risk of communication errors and things, people not being on the same page.
But. Maybe we see some of that. Maybe that is part of the answer. And when it's not, when you're going man to man. Maybe you're trying a little bit of the Minnesota method, which is get into his body.
Make him feel it physically. All those ridiculous pregame drills, have you seen those? The Wemby does standing on one foot and being shoved, which I find hilarious. Because if you were really practicing what happens in the games, wouldn't like one out of every five times he gets pushed by that little guy, he just like fall over and flop and lose the ball? Wouldn't that be part of the pregame drills if you're really rehearsing what you're doing?
Interesting accusation. I would think. That would be part of it. You know, you talk about the threes, they actually didn't even shoot that well from three last night. Oklahoma City made four more threes than they did.
So out scored them by 12 there. Almost all Alex Caruso. They did for Caruso, nine for everyone else. Right. They just got badly out-rebounded.
61 rebounds for San Antonio, only 40 for Oklahoma City.
So they lost about all the boards and. Ultimately lost the game. And again, 24 of those boards are for Wemby. Which it's part of why that was such a unique performance. Youngest player ever to have a 40 and 20 game in the playoffs.
But the question I ask again, where everyone wants to today wake up and say, oh, now he's the best player in the NBA. Let's see it again and again and again. Let's see it through a full series. He's certainly up there. Don't get me wrong.
But Greatness is forged in the NBA and other pro sports by the ability to be consistent and do it on the biggest stage repeatedly. Let's see what answers Oklahoma City gets. If you lose game two at home, I don't want to say it's over, but it's over. You're not getting back through there, giving up two at home. You know, that's literally what TJ said in the break.
You know, the must-win game two stuff is so hyperbolic and overreactive, but. Man, the Thunder really need to win game two. It's also a good thing. They don't want to go back to San Antonio down. Two games.
No, and the energy in the building, too, is something you have to reestablish. When you have a game one kind of gut punch like that, where it seems like at the end of the first overtime, you've got the game. End of regulation, the crowd's going nuts after Chep gets the block, or toward the end of OT with 10 seconds left, you're like, we're going to finish this thing out. And then Wemby hits a 28-footer. If this thing starts bad in game two, the energy is going to get off in that building, just like you saw in game seven on Sunday for the Pistons, where you could just feel it.
When the Cavs started making the three at the buzzer, just felt like this gut punch where that home court advantage, that tough environment just wasn't there again. You got to come out. You got to keep Wemby from taking over the game. I think you've got to get into his body. You've got to make him feel it physically.
Nothing dirty, nothing over the line, but you got to give him less space than what he was given last night and keep him from just getting all those opportunities close to the rim. We've got NFL news, we talked about it a little bit yesterday, but now official. Let's do it. 2028 NFL draft. My backyard, Minneapolis.
Old game. Coming there in two years.
So, Washington, D.C., 2027. Minneapolis in 2028. My anticipation is that the big lawn, it's about four acres on the west side of the stadium, that's where the festivities are going to be. Really cool photo. It only.
Can only cross your fingers. Yeah. How far do you live from here? I live about if you look straight ahead, TJ, like that's looking west in that photo. I live about 15 miles west-northwest of there.
Okay. Out in the Minneapolis suburbs. You can only hope for the weather. Yep. Didn't go our way back in February of 2018 for the Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah. Odds are greater, not 100%, but odds are greater. of some very solid weather. for Minneapolis for that draft. I think it'll be a great Event for the city.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Thriving community in terms of cuisine, in terms of things to do, when it's nice. The rivers, when you get a nice day at that time of year, it's fantastic in Minneapolis. Logistically, the airports, transportation, all that stuff's very good.
It'll be an enjoyable event. We also have. I believe officially now. Super Bowl in Nashville. Super Bowl 64.
February of 2030, that will be year three in the new Nissan Stadium. Uh stadium translucent roof. Climate control. Early February. You read the forecast yesterday, Brockman.
We'll bring it back. I believe it was AI generated. Was it? You were using a little extra intelligence. You were still weather in February.
You do get, you know. The occasional ice storm there. Yeah. Unpredictable weather is highlighted right there. Unpredictable.
Unpredictable weather. Average daily highs in the 50s, which is totally fine. It's not New Orleans. It's not Vegas. No, it's not LA.
Yeah, or Miami. I get it. But Nashville, though, it's a city where it's fairly compact. Which is, to me, that's the number one thing. For somebody who covers these events for a living, all I want is as little time as possible in vehicles.
Because whether it's the Super Bowl, the draft, like there's elements of traffic, there's construction zones, there's a security perimeter, whatever has, and I think this is true for fans as well. I'm not just speaking for me, though, certainly I'm speaking for me because I do have a selfish attitude toward these events, but you just want the least amount of headaches possible getting around the city. Of course. And with Nashville and the Broadway district, where that new stadium is going to be, which is going to be more convenient, the old stadium was kind of on the other side of the highway and kind of down the hill. This one's going to be convenient from what I understand.
I haven't looked at the entire map, but it should be, I mean, just a phenomenal city to host. An event like that.
So, first time coming through Nashville, we've got Los Angeles this year. Look up the future Super Bowl sites for me, real quick. I know we have. Los Angeles. Valentine's Day in twenty twenty seven.
And where are we headed in twenty eight? Yes, we're going back to Atlanta in twenty twenty eight, then Vegas in twenty twenty nine and Nashville in twenty thirty. I enjoyed the Atlanta Super Bowl. Another kind of underrated food scene there. A lot of it's it's uh condensed downtown.
One of the teams stayed up in Buckhead. That's where I camped out, I believe, with the Rams. Uh that's the hotel I was standing out of doing updates on when the buses were leaving and all those important uh types of things. Uh and then Vegas. I mean, there's no Super Bowl venue like this.
It's the perfect city. Becoming the GOAT. I mean, honestly, we should just do it there every year, but I understand other cities want to be in there. Stadiums just south of the Strip. Perfect.
Every casino, hotel is operational. Food. I won't have to worry. I believe. Again, we're still learning the rules in our new Disney employment outfit here, but I believe I will not have to run the risk.
In going to the Starbucks in the Cosmopolitan, and if I took one step to my right, I'd be fired for stepping into the sports book. I believe the rules have been slightly relaxed. Let's hope so.
So there's that. I'm not going to be down there, uh, you know. In the high roller room with some of my buddies who I found down there at like 3 a.m. coming back from something. Oh, I think I was actually going out.
I think I was leaving the hotel on the morning of the Super Bowl and found my buddies. Could see them as I'm walking through, careful not to step onto the carpet in the casino. I could literally see them still at the high roller room. If one of them made the comment to me, I just bet a Honda Accord. That was the frame of reference for the recent bet.
I will not be. I will not be a part of that. You don't know that, though. You could be. You could be.
I'm not on my way to the stadium putting down $30,000 on a single hand of blackjack. I'll tell you that. Like a new accord or a used accord? I took it to be a new accord, but that's still not a great deal. You could buy a used accord for $26,000, used accord, yeah, anywhere from $5,000 to $15,000 for a used accord.
I mean, I don't know how decent. By that standard, you could say anything's an accord. $300 for a 1986 rusted-out 200,000-mile accord. We're talking the newest. It's the base model.
Okay, 28 then? 28. 28. That's why I said 30,000 would have been my. What would have been my estimate?
We got one of our friends on hold. Let's go to Turzo in Iowa. I believe Terzo's got some thoughts. Basketball, football, what's on your mind there, Terzo? What's up, Tommy P?
It's good to talk to you again. What hell is happening? A soap. As we all saw last night, Wimby's performance was just epic. That was so much fun to watch.
And the crazy part that we really do have to think about is, Brock, when you said like five to seven years, he's going to be dominant. He could very well dominate this league for the next 10 to 15 if he stays healthy. And he's just going to continue to get better.
So, man, it looks bright and beautiful for the. For the San Antonio fans and lucky Jimmy in San Antonio, you know, that's the one heck of a player that you're going to get to root for for the next 10 years. I thought we'd hear from him first today. Sleeping it off.
So, hey, Tommy, I was hoping to do the win-loss for the Niners. Let's go. Let me find it here. San Francisco win-loss game, picking game by game in the schedule. Really shuffling a lot of sheets here.
Here we go. NFC West, bottom of the pile. Good division, bottom of the pile. No one's done the 49ers yet, Terzo. You got the first crack at it.
Let's start out week one. Against the Rams. On a Wednesday in Melbourne, Australia. Yes, that's a real game. Technically, Thursday here, Wednesday there.
49ers versus Rams. What do you got? I think that's going to be a loss since it's not a home game for us. Week two, home against the Dolphins. That's a wind.
Week three, home against the Cardinals. That would be another win. Week four, home against the Broncos. Man, that's a lot of home games. I think we dropped that one to the Broncos.
I think that defense is going to. gonna give us some problems. All right, week five at Seattle. I think we lose in Seattle. It's going to be a tough game.
It's a 2-3 start for 49ers here. Week 6, Monday Night Football, home against the Commanders. Win that one. Week 7 at Atlanta. Win that one.
All right, so that makes you four and three at the bye here. Coming out week nine, home against the Raiders. Win that one. Week 10 at Dallas. Uh-oh.
Oh, that's a definite win. Oh, oh. Old rivalries die hard. Week 11 against the Vikings in Mexico City. That'll be kind of a home game for you to win.
Week 12 Home Against the Seahawks. Win that one. Week 13 at Giants. Win that one. Dead and hot.
Week 14, home against the Rams. We beat the Rams in home. Week 15, Thursday night, so short week at the Chargers.
So another home game. Lose to the Chargers. All right, week 16. That short week will be tough for us. Week 16 at Kansas City.
For some reason, I think we dropped that game. I hate to say it, but I think we do. Week 17: home against the Eagles. Win That's a Sunday nighter. And then week 18.
So you're at this point 11-5. This could be for the division right here if you're 11-5 at Cardinals. I think it could be for the division, but I think we lose. I think we sit people and rest because we're not going to get the first round buy.
So I think we. I think we take the loss there. 11-6 finish. How would you feel about that, Terzo? Looking at this schedule: 11-6 for the 49ers.
Yeah. If we make it out 11 and 6, I'm going to be pretty happy with it. Any more wins than that, I think it's kind of reaching. And so. 11 and 5 or 11 and 6, I think that gives us a good opportunity to be healthy going into the playoffs and hopefully be able to make a run.
Thanks for the call, Terzo. Great talking to you, as always. Say, pal, that's a pretty tough stretch when you talk about Seattle at Giants, Rams, at Chargers, at Chiefs. Home for Eagles. It's a pretty tough stretch in December football.
Well, you're also, I mean, they're playing in Melbourne, they're playing in Mexico City. Kyle Shanahan has made abundantly clear how he feels about the additional additional games. Essentially, he has said, and I'm paraphrasing here, but he basically said there is no upside. There is no good that comes out of that. Great for the league, whatever.
But like for the team, no, there's not an upside to playing a game in a place like Melbourne. But this is unprecedented when you talk about just the time change alone. It's a, what, 10, 12-hour time change? It's a substantial amount. And so, yes, the game's early enough that you're coming back and you've got the extra time, but just weird to have it that early.
I mean, that's, I believe that's eight days before cut or after cutdown.
So, you are very quickly normally around the league, the way that they've structured it.
Now, cut down used to be on Labor Day weekend, and then you'd be back. From Saturday cutdowns, Sunday waiver claims, you'd still be churning guys on the roster Monday, Tuesday, and they'd be right into the week. They moved that several years ago.
Now, cutdown is the Tuesday before. The CBA says players get two days off over Labor Day weekends. You got a rest. If you're the 49ers and the Rams, you're basically doing cuts on Tuesday, that roster churn Wednesday, Thursday, and then you're right into the practice week and on a plane to Melbourne not very long after.
So it's just a completely different challenge than what a team has faced before. Even the London games, that's a, for most teams, when you're talking about East Coast teams, it's a five, six, seven-hour difference. They've gotten used to that because those games have gone on so long. There is no precedent for going back in time by like a half a day and then zipping forward a half a day. When you're on the way back.
They do have the extra time. They do have the weekend following to try to readjust. But. I mean, I guess it could be worse than having the Dolphins and the Cardinals in your week two and week three games. Two teams that, if we're looking at this on paper going into the season, probably are in the running for the number one pick.
You get both of those at home, tend to work your way back in. Hope that you're healthy coming out of those early games. Yeah, right. It'll just be very strange. If we get to the end of the season.
It's late December, early January. And it's like, well, what's the difference right now in the NFC West race? Remember when they played in Australia back in September? That division game? Yeah.
That was totally unpressed. That could be the difference. By the way, it is a 17-hour time difference. 17-hour. I actually undersold it.
It is 2:40 in the morning tomorrow. In Melbourne right now. Right now. Or is it 2:40 in the morning yesterday? No, it's 2:40 on Wednesday.
Yeah, they're a day ahead.
So they're ahead. They're ahead.
So it's a Friday game in Australia? I thought it was a Wednesday game in Australia. Whatever it is, it's Thursday here. It's Thursday here. It's Wednesday morning in Australia.
And we have an actual Wednesday game in week one, which is Seattle. Which is Seattle and New England for some reason. The Seahawks play on every day except Tuesday, I believe, this season. Yeah, correct. This is a Listen, the NFL has never shown an interest in expanding to we're going to play every night of the week, we're going to be like the NBA, and there's just games all the time because there's something about having those nights where there's no football that makes you crave more football.
Exactly. We're getting as close to that line as possible when you're talking about not just the three games on Christmas now, but Christmas Eve game. You got not just the Black Friday game and the three games on Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving Eve, Thanksgiving Eve game as well. It does mean if you're someone who loves to hide from your family on holidays, you've got better excuses than ever.
Well, I can't go now. No, it's Wednesday night. No, it's Thanksgiving Eve football. This is tradition.
Well, Wednesday is usually, if you go home, it's the big night out. It's the biggest bar night. Yeah, big night out. And now there will be something more to do than drink. There will be a game on.
What is that game on? Is it on Prime? Great, what's the Wednesday night? That game is Packers. If we got the Packers, love where your head's at.
Thanks for watching. This is how Packers at Rams. It's here. Mike, we're Packers. We're going.
I'm going. We're going. And it is on. Thanksgiving Eve. I'm in.
Is on Netflix. Thanksgiving Eve on Netflix.
So will the bars have Netflix available? I would say that That to me gets overrated because get Netflix. I don't know what the cost is. I know it's different scales for businesses versus homes, but like. You're just going to have to do it.
Yep. Everyone's going to be in the bar and if you don't have the game on Netflix, maybe they'll choose a different bar. You'll go to the place that has Netflix. But if the TVs have not been updated in the bar recently, maybe it's not a smart TV, then you can't get Netflix on the TV in the bar. If you're going to a bar that doesn't have a TV capable of getting Netflix, you are there to drink.
You're not there. You don't even know that you're with anyone. You are there strictly to drink light beer, take shots of rail bourbon, and go home and walk home at one in the morning. That's what you're there to do. Yep.
Thanksgiving Eve? Like, you ought to go to these fancy bars that have Netflix. You're out to socialize and to see people. You know, reconnect with your friends. If you go to the bar that's still got the 19-inch tube TV that's up in the corner on that metal rack, oh, yeah, and it's angled down at a 30-degree angle where you know if there were ever like an earthquake or like a car crash outside, that thing is shaking off and breaking someone's skull at that point.
If you're in that bar, you don't care. That's the truth. You don't even have Netflix on your phone, you've got a flip phone. You're just in there to get drunk. No other goals.
You're just there to drink your face off. And I respect it. And you get home and you can watch it on demand. On your friends' login on Netflix. A lot more to come here.
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Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show. Tom Pellicero in for Rich. Our friend Terzo in Iowa called earlier, gave a quick shout out to Jimmy, who not surprisingly down in San Antonio was listening. Jimmy, your response to the thought of the way that potentially the Thunder could zone up against Wemby and how you're feeling coming off of game one down there?
Okay, first of all, bienvenidos, Tommy P. Que paso hermanos. How was everybody? We bien. How you guys?
All right. Shout out to TJ and Del Tufo. B-Man. I like it better when Susie's sitting there, but we'll just get through this. We all do.
Okay. Okay. On the Spurs level. Wemby is the constant in our basketball equation. We've all agreed that he's going to do what he does.
The thing that spurs Basketball nerd heads are geeking over is Dylan Harper. Staff Castle is going to do what he does, Wimby does what he does. But now we have this young point guard going through the trials and tribulations Of playoffs at 20 years old. Shout out to Adam for reminding me he's 20. That's where we're geeking is on Dylan Harper's performance in this playoff series win or lose Is going to be the spark, the ignition for what we're going to do next year.
Thoughts? You're getting ahead of yourself here, Jimmy. Obviously, it's a lot of excitement for the future. It's right there. In front of you right now.
I mean, absolutely. I said earlier: you know, the risk that you run if you start simply. Throwing all your defense at Wemby is between the emergence of Harper, what Castle's doing, Vassell, if Fox gets back. They've had more guys who are not household names emerge in this playoff run and time and again have delivered. I mean, you're right.
Obviously, Dylan Harper has got the bloodlines. His dad was a pretty good point guard in his day as well. But you're absolutely right for a young guy at 20 years old to be one of the key forces supporting your 22-year-old superstar. I don't mean to get on you about looking ahead here, Jimmy, but I mean, this is you're already deeper than anybody realistically thought going into the season you'd get in these playoffs. And it's hard.
Tom, we're a year and a half probably ahead of schedule and a year and a half ahead of schedule on our coach. I call him Vichovich. I mean, he is doing everything right as a coach. We have the young thing, and TJ said Jimmy was sleeping it off. TJ, who said I went to sleep?
And all up all night party. With that, we better say goodbye to Jimmy here on Disney Plus. Take a nap, Jimmy. Jimmy, thank you very much. Appreciate the call.
Here's the thing. And Jimmy's right. I mean, all right, let's say they're a year and a half ahead of schedule. That also means if you're the other teams in the West, besides probably Oklahoma City. Aren't you a tad concerned that now your window is closing a year and a half early?
You were concerned the day that that ping pong ball popped up and it didn't say Spurs, which meant the Spurs were the last ones in there for that draft. I think. We knew wherever this kid was going. He was going to be special. I don't think people knew it was going to happen as quickly as possible.
At 22 years old, though. I mean, if you were in Minnesota. You saw Denver's window slam shut, right? In these playoffs, it certainly felt that way, and they've talked openly about it. What did Jokic say?
If we were in Slovenia, we'd all be fired. Won't be everybody, it won't be Jokic, but it might be almost everybody else. Won't be Adelman, but it'll be a lot of the players on the team. May have seen the last of Aaron Gordon. May have seen the last of some other players on that team.
Mm-hmm. It Any time that you have in the modern NBA a team emerge more quickly, everybody else has to recalibrate on how much time they have left. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.