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This is as big a risk as you can take. No head coaching experience. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. What's up, Mark? I want to talk about our new Dallas Cowboy coach.
I'm really good with X's and O's, but I'm great with people. I think Brian, I think he deserves a shot because, you know, I don't know. Today's guest, 2025 Baseball Hall of Fame inductee, CeCe Sabathia. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, NFL Network insider Tom Felicero. And now it's Rich Eisen.
That's right. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. The Friday before we go to New Orleans for Super Bowl fifty nine. We're going to be emanating from the Big Easy starting next Wednesday. We'll be all over the Super Bowl next week. And obviously we're always got football on the brain here.
And in that respect, guess what? Our guest in the middle of this program is none other than Andy Reid, because I don't know how to quote our friend who is a diehard cowboy fan. We know why Andy Reid's on this program. He's going for a three-peat next week in New Orleans. The first ever three-peat attempt in the history of this Super Bowl.
Unbelievable, man. Has the three-peat gotten to, you know, Matt Stafford, Clayton Kershaw, Jerome Bettis, Detroit levels yet? Hey, did you know there's a three-peat? I get it, but I said it was the number one story going into the season. It was the number one story throughout the season. And it's still the number one story because the Chiefs won the AFC again.
Yeah. With 15 regular season wins and two home wins. They were the one seed, despite the Bills beating them in the regular season. And so Andy Reid's going to join us as he gets set to head off to New Orleans on, I imagine, was it, did Creed say they're going Sunday?
They're going Sunday or they're going Monday? We'll ask Andy Reid. They're going to be there to try and three-peat. And Andy's quite familiar with the franchise he's going against, the Philadelphia Eagles. Our first guest is a Hall of Famer already, as Andy Reid will be one day, CeCe Sabathia will join us. And it's amazing that CeCe Sabathia makes the Baseball Hall of Fame just as New York becomes a Mets town.
And it's really sad for him when he joins us on this program. Diehard Raider fan as well. We'll be looking at the new hire of the Raiders and Tom Brady in the front office with a guy who grew up in Vallejo, California.
Right across the bay from San Francisco. So CeCe Sabathia will join us. And I'll ask him if he thinks the Yankees are a better team without Juan Soto because it sure looks it.
It sure looks like they spent the money that they would have spent on Soto in ways that makes them a better team. So we'll see. I don't know how you lose a top four player in the game and be better, but that's a nice spin by you. It's not a spin.
It's not a spin. So we're going to see what CeCe has to say about that. And then Tom Pelissero will join us from the Senior Bowl. You know, Brandon Graham might be back for the Super Bowl.
I saw that yesterday. You know, he had his practice window opened up. So we'll talk about, I guess, the one major piece of injury news that can affect the Super Bowl. Because as you, Chris Brockman, know, he greatly affected a Super Bowl that I was the only one I've ever been to. Michigan on Michigan violence. Brandon Graham on Tom Brady back in the day. So as BG goes for his second ring, if he can get out there. So that's coming up on the program.
Chris Brockman in his spot. Rich, what's up? Good to see you, Jason. Fellow, how are you? What's up, Rich?
How great. Have you ever gotten a gig in this business? How long have you been doing what you've been doing?
About 15 years. And this is your side gig? Yeah. OK, pretty much. Oh, these days. So you're you've been doing this 15 years. Have you ever gotten a gig because another guy was doing gymnastics for the first time? I don't believe so. OK, congratulations.
Thanks. I think Mike's setting up for the UCLA gymnastics competition tomorrow at Pauley Pavilion. That's why he's not here to any of the events.
We heard that pommel horse. Did you catch that one? I didn't know that. I had no clue where you're going with that. Yeah. That's what he said. He said he's never he's never worked the faders for an uneven parallel bar. But we'll find out how that sounds.
That's this weekend. TJ Jefferson, good to see you, sir. How are you? Ever tell you about the time I met Andy Reid at a Kenny Chesney concert? Did you really? Yeah, I told him I was a Cowboys fan while he was still the Eagles coach and he went to shake my hand.
I'm like, I'll let you know, I'm a Cowboys fan. He growled at me. He was. Did he really? Then we shook hands. But he still shook hands. And I was like, this guy's amazing. I love him. Also, he's a giant.
He's way bigger than you think he is. The first time I ever interviewed Andy Reid in person was in Jacksonville, Florida, when the NFC champion Philadelphia Eagles finally broke through to make a Super Bowl against the New England Patriots. And going for their second in a row and and Andy showed up at the set on NFL Network. I don't know if he knew it was on camera or he didn't care if it was on camera because he showed up in a Hawaiian shirt.
Always seems like his and shorts. And so and so the the very, very, very pale stems were were were showing. And the first time I ever interviewed Big Bread. And Mooch wasn't part of our staff yet. So, yeah, it was a long time ago. That was a long it was 2004, the calendar year 2005, just at the very top time. And, you know, pretty amazing, man, that he's the coach who lost that game and is going for a three peat. For the first time in the history of the NFL, as a matter of fact, you know, he lost that Super Bowl and then he split his next two. He was under five hundred as a Super Bowl head coach, and now he's above five hundred. And you want to talk legacy, he would be four and two in Super Bowls if he if he wins this one, these three in a row. And if not, he's five hundred and then just a mediocre Super Bowl coach. Right.
In certain parts, that's how it'll be. I can't win the big one. What is he just five hundred in these games? Oh, he's made six.
You know what I mean? So that's the first time I ever met Andy Reid. And obviously, Mahomes changed lives are on our Instagram feed. We popped up yesterday since today is, in fact, the seven year anniversary of Kelsey showing up on the set, lamenting the trade of Alex Smith to make room for Mahomes. And it's it's great to see that video of him talking about it from from our set.
Just seeing a much younger Travis Kelsey. And, you know, Mahomes is is the guy that we're all looking at. And of all the stats that I've got here in front of me, you know, Mahomes, we were talking yesterday. I think the legacy game that gets played every now and then when Super Bowls roll around, that obviously this is the guy whose legacy is most affected by a win with all due respect to anyone. Philadelphia, when you're talking about three, Pete and the way that he's going about his business, winning Super Bowl MVPs while they are winning Super Bowls, if he wins the MVP in this one, he joins Shaquille O'Neal and Michael Jordan as the only players to win a championship MVP in three straight seasons in any North American sport.
This is where he's putting himself on the pantheon. And you take a look at this game and you're wondering about difference makers who can make the difference, certainly when this is the first matchup in Super Bowl history since Bill's Cowboys in the 90s to be a rematch in two years after the first. So this is the first time since Bill's Cowboys in the early 90s that you're seeing two Super Bowls of the same matchup in three years. And you take a look at the other Super Bowl between these two, two years ago. And, you know, a difference maker that night was going to look like it was Jalen Hurts, thrown for 300 yards and being the leading rusher of the Eagles, taking a 10 point lead into halftime.
Unfortunately, though, out of all the Mahomes stats that I'm seeing here in front of me as I lead to the potential difference maker in this game, this is the one that just jumps out at you with Patrick Mahomes that you when, when this guy trails by 10 or more points, he is virtually unbeatable in the postseason. I've never seen anything quite like it. Of course, I can't find it now that I've actually had it here in front of me. I truly have a 19 million.
Here it is. He's won three Super Bowls. We know this, right? In which his team is trailed by 10 or more points. That's the most all time. All the quarterbacks in NFL history have four such wins combined. In his playoff career, when the Chiefs have trailed by seven or more points, this guy's nine and two. No other quarterback to start 10 or more such games since 1950 has a winning record in these regards.
When we talk about other notables when trailing by seven or more points in the playoffs. Peyton Manning, three and nine. Again, remember, Mahomes is nine and two. Three and nine. Montana, four and six. Elway, six and seven. Tom Brady, 10 and 11.
He's under 500. Mahomes is nine and two in such games. So even with Jalen Hurts coming up with the game of his life, Mahomes came back and won it. And yeah, you could take a look at the penalty that caused the Eagles to not get a chance to answer whatever the Chiefs were doing in a tie game at 35-35 when Juju Smith-Schuster had his jersey tugged.
You know, obviously that's the one that leaps out as the the big difference maker. But when you look back at the play by play of this game and you talk about possible difference makers. You take a look back at this, the Chiefs were down, as I mentioned, 24-14 at half. They get the ball to start the second half and they score a touchdown. The Eagles have a long drive, 17 plays and settle for a field goal. The Chiefs respond with another touchdown to take a one point lead.
But this is the one. The Eagles get the ball back three and out, pass it three times, three incompletions. Chiefs get the ball back, score another touchdown. The Eagles respond with a tie, we all know. Then comes the holding penalty, field goal, end of game. Chiefs win the first of two in a row and they can go for a three-peat against the same team, except for the fact. I ask you, if the same situation happens where the Chiefs come back and take a lead after being 10 down and the Eagles get the ball back. Do they throw it three straight times or do they have Saquon Barkley in their backfield?
I think we know the answer to it. And that's why this guy is the biggest, in my estimation, difference maker in this Super Bowl. Any time the Eagles this year have had any troubles, there's 26. Oh, and there goes 26. Any time they might have some issues in the passing game, there goes 26. Any time they might have issues in the red zone, there goes 26 from the other side of the field through the red zone into the end zone. Or down to the one-yard line and here comes the tush-push.
Well, that happens a lot. Right, so that's what the Eagles have going for them this time around. They didn't have the last time, Jalen Hurts was the leading rusher in last time around in the Super Bowl. They did, the Eagles have a Penn State running back in their backfield.
Miles Sanders had seven carries for 16 yards. And they're going against a Kansas City defense that is third in the league in stopping the run. They've got Saquon Barkley to get through it. They've got this guy to get them through any problems that they might have against this rushing defense. And he's ready for the moment.
He sounds real chill about it, too. Saquon Barkley, I believe. We didn't get the single season. We have an opportunity to get that. The only thing that makes it special, whether we got the rushing record during the season or if we get the all-time rushing record and playoffs included, the only thing that makes it special is winning the Super Bowl.
That's kind of just the profession that we in, the sport that we in. There's a lot of great things that we accomplished so far up to this. But if you don't get the job done next Sunday, maybe when you're in your 30s and 40s and you look back on it, you're going to think about how special it was. But it's kind of going to make it feel like everything came up short. So all those things are important.
All those things are cool. And we'll love to accomplish that. But the most important thing is winning the Super Bowl because you do that.
It just makes everything else you accomplish even more special. Yeah. That's the guy. Now, you could say, oh, Rich, the Chiefs are different, too.
And they are. Marquez, Valdez, Scantling, Skymore and Kadarius, Tony were the last time they took on the Eagles as the wide receivers, along with Juju Smith-Shuster, as we mentioned. He's back. The other three, Valdez, Scantling, Moore and Tony replaced by Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Brown, DeAndre Hopkins. A little better.
A little better, although I know who scored touchdowns in that Super Bowl. But DeHomp lurks as a possible difference maker, although we haven't seen much from him. But Saquon's the answer to this question and the way through potentially for the Philadelphia Eagles. Because this team has been so special on offense in a way that didn't rely on Jalen Hurts to have to put on a cape like he did two Super Bowls ago. He doesn't have to put on a cape this time. He's got he's got more as he goes for the the big time championship trophy.
I can't wait to see it. We'll take a break. C.C. Sabathia is going to join us. We also have Andy Reid on the program. We also do have Tom Pelissero.
We have a what's more likely. We have a top five list based on how I think. Here's my top five later on. And I wouldn't miss it if I were you.
The top five Pro Bowl events that I believe I could excel at against the actual pro bowlers. Now we're talking. What? Yeah.
Let's go. Have you seen some of these events last night? I could take some of these guys out and I think they know it, too. I don't know. I'm going to deserve judgment until I hear this. How dare you? How dare you? After some of them, you might go, you know what?
You're right. You might sway me. I'm not swaying now, but you may sway me.
OK, let's take a break. C.C. Sabathia is going to join us next.
C.C. A Hall of Famer going to be joining us. We'll talk Raiders. We'll talk Super Bowl. We'll talk Hall of Fame.
And we'll talk about the Mets owning New York and see what he has to say about all of that. Yes. OK.
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See store or sleepnumber.com for details. Back here on the rich eyes and show everybody, um, one last stat to throw out at you. The, uh, chiefs faced four players in 2024 who finished in the top 10 in rushing yards. Saquon as we all know is top number one. He's going to be the fifth. Um, they didn't do very well against the chiefs.
You want to guess out of the four who had the biggest day against them, Derek Henry, Bijan Robinson, Chuba Hubbard, Bucky Irving, who had the best day against the chiefs. I'm the randomly say Chuba. That's what I was going to say to you. You guys are correct. Okay.
Well, if you remember, they needed my homes to kind of pull the bacon out of the fire. I had Chuba and fantasy this year. That's why he also had 58 yards.
That was the best. He scored, he scored late though, right? He averaged 81 against everyone else.
That's it. Derek Henry had 46 on opening night. He averaged 117 against everyone else. Bijan had 31 in week three. He finished third in the league in rushing and he averaged 89 against everyone else. And Bucky Irving had 24 against them. And he averaged 68.6 yards against everyone else. The team with the, um, second best yards per carry, giving up to running backs at meaning the fewest given up behind Baltimore was Kansas city. Saquon did torch Baltimore though. He could be just the absolute difference maker, man.
When it all comes down to it as he has been unreal, the giants just let him walk. I mean, I'm sorry. I got to keep saying it. I really, really do. Right. So back on the rich eyes and show radio network, I'm sitting at the rich eyes and show desk furnished by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry.
Granger has the right product for you. Call click ranger.com or just stop by. Let's go to Patrick and Balmer, Maryland. What's up, Patrick? First in first up. Oh, thanks for taking my call. Rich. Good morning or afternoon. What's going on? I got two quick things.
Uh, one, I called in a few months ago and did win loss with my beloved New York football giants. Hold on a minute. Let me get this out. I have the piece of paper here. I have the book cause I'm a professional.
I have everything here. Hold on a minute. You, you did the win loss. This is a long time ago. If you did this, um, last summer, uh, Patrick and Baltimore, you had them going four and 13. Oh, okay. My memory was off. I thought I got it correct and they were, I predicted three and 14.
Okay. No, you did have them beating the Vikings to start the season and then lose all the way to week nine when you beat the commanders. Uh, then you had them beating the saints and the Buccaneers and uh, yeah, but I do remember the one thing I said was that after they would lose to the Panthers in Germany, that's when they would bench Jones. I got that right. Did you say it? Well, you did get that right.
You did get that right. They did lose to the Panthers in Germany and then that was it for Jones. Then they cut him. They basically let him walk. Everyone forgets. He was on a Minnesota standing there. Did you see every now and then you just catch a glimpse of Daniel Jones just standing back there like Forrest Gump, you know, with the grainy video and all that stuff. Like looking around like, you know, so, um, yeah, man, you, you, you pretty much nailed it. I don't know who you wanted your quarterback.
It could be cam ward, you know, could be happy with either one to be honest. Okay. Very good.
Okay. And then the other thing I wanted to get your opinion on cause out of the major four sports, the NFL is the only one that I believe that changed the name of their championship. And even though like the NBA had a merger and MLB and NHL had pretty big expansion periods in a short amount of time, I find it interesting that people kind of brush aside the team accomplishments before the super bowl era. And I bring it up specifically with Lombardi's three peak. Now the three peak this year would be far more impressive. It's more teams in the league, salary cap era, free agency, but I just find it interesting that with as big of a celebration as the NFL did a couple of years ago that you worked on doing for the 100 anniversary, that some people were just like, wow, that Packers three peak. It doesn't even really count. I just like it counts. It's not as impressive as if the chiefs would do it, but like it's still happened and it, you know, even the super bowl ring for super bowl two, it has three diamonds across. You know, I, I guess, you know, I, I understand that and, and you know, they, they did win three in a row and it's just, I guess we're talking about the super bowl era. We've never seen, you know, a three Pete in that regard. And I, I appreciate the history lesson, Patrick.
Thank you. That's Patrick in Baltimore here on the program. And in advance of Andy Reed joining us, the chiefs are the first team to reach the championship game. See how we're using that phrase now. Now that Patrick has reminded us, it's been the super bowl since 1966 and NFL championship.
Prior to that, the chiefs are the first team to reach the championship game five times in a six season span since the giants in 1958 through 63, when they played in the NFL championship game five times and lost every one of them. Could you imagine if there was a WFAN back then in New York city, longtime listeners, first time callers. Yikes. Yikes. Yeah.
You know, calling up and by the way, you know, if I'm not mistaken, who the coordinators on that team were Lombardi and Tom Landry. Wow. Yeah. History lessons here as we we search for CC Seth. Oh, there you go.
Nice. Seth in Richmond, Virginia. You're here on the rich eyes and show what's up, Seth. Hey, how's it going?
Rick? What's going on, sir? Uh, well, I'm just looking at the state of the AFC. I'm seeing all these teams, like, you know, the chiefs, bills, Ravens chargers on the come up Texans on the come up. And I think that if the chiefs win this super bowl, we might see the AFC go on a run. Like we saw the NFC do back in the eighties and late eighties, early nineties when they won, I think, 12th Street Super Bowls.
So I was just wondering what you thought about that. Well, I mean, to be honest, Seth, I mean, we talked about it on on on overreaction Monday, the pod, or it's still out there for everyone to listen to the first item for for for Chris to bring up to me was that Josh Allen should get traded to the NFC so he can make it to the Super Bowl. You know, and yeah, and it's Mahomes Mahomes is just as dominant as they come.
And that's why I mentioned if he wins the MVP of the Super Bowl, he he joins Shaquille O'Neal and Jordan is a guy to to win. And thanks for the call, Seth, to win an MVP in a championship game three straight years in any North American sport. So yeah, I mean, I think we're seeing some dominance here, that's for sure.
But the Eagles do have a heck of a team that can just derail this thing in four quarters. Joining us now is a baseball Hall of Famer and one of my favorite Yankees to watch in his tenure there. Ladies and gentlemen, CeCe Sabathia here on the Rich Eisen Show. Good to see you, CeCe. What's going on? How you doing? I'm doing fine. I mean, we could talk about the most important thing here is just what do you think of your Raiders, CeCe?
What do you think? Oh, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm glad we got Pete Carroll. You know, I'm excited.
You know, hopefully we can drive the quarterback and turn this thing around. So I mean, I guess you're you're a fan since your your days of being born in Vallejo. Is that is that your your Raider fandom? CeCe?
Yeah. You know, growing up in the Bay, you know, it was either the Raiders or the Niners and my dad was a was a Raider fan and he grew up Oakland Raider fan and they went to L.A. So I grew up in L.A. Raider fan and then they came back to Oakland when I was about 14 or 15. And yeah, you know, now they're in Vegas and as long as they have the silver and black on, I'll always be a Raider fan. So did your dad bring you to a black hole when you were like four or something like that?
I'm trying to do. He would take me down to L.A. so we would always go tailgating. So we would we would leave like on Saturday night and he would drive through the night. And I just remember waking up at the Coliseum and tailgating and it kind of started my fandom. And yeah, I mean, I take my boys to Vegas. But when my oldest my oldest is 21 now, when he was a you know, when he was a little guy, we would tailgating to Oakland all the time. So it's a family thing, man. I hate to say unfortunately, but it's a family thing. It runs deep. Well, CC, just to bring New York sports into it, you could be a Jet or a Giant fan and you know, and you know, but I mean, Tom Brady being in ownership now, right?
I mean, I don't know if you've met Tom, I have a relationship with him in any way, shape or form, but I've got a chance to meet him. But I mean, I just him, you know, having a chance to, you know, and they say that he's taking over, you know, football operations. So I think we're headed in the right direction. I mean, you know, you can only go up from where we've been and, you know, we've done a pretty good job. I feel like the defense is good. You know, Brock Bowers had an amazing year last year. It's just if we can get somebody with consistent quarterback play, I think the team will be all right.
That's the question, right? And I do love the Carroll hiring, and I'm not just saying that because you're zooming in here because you need somebody who can install a culture, certainly when you're churning through coaches and install a way of doing things. And also whenever he's asked about message for Raiders fans, he's kind of challenging people to say, fill up the stadium here in a town where everybody's coming in, you know, seeing a show, maybe getting a good meal in, sitting down at a blackjack table while they're seeing their team as the road team in the stadium and go hang out, you know? You know, what's crazy is that if you go to a game early in the season, it's full of Raider fans. But as the season goes along and, you know, they're three and whatever, then it turns into the other fans, you know, coming into town, like you said, to go hang out in Vegas and watch a show, which I guess is good for the stadium because it'll always be packed.
But it's not good. It's not so great for Raider fans or I'm sure for the players later in the season when it's, you know, 70, 30, you know, the opposing team to the Raider fans. But if you go early in the season, I always go early in the season.
I always go before October and, you know, I catch it when it's a good amount of Raider fans in there. Azabathia here on the Rich Eisen Show, all right, obviously I was being facetious saying the Raiders are the most important thing in this conversation, but congratulations to you and your family and everybody that's been part of your journey since you were a kid. Now that you've had a week to sort of have this soak in, what does go through your mind now that you know you're going to Cooperstown, CeCe? Yeah, it's been a good week. It's been, you know, amazing to have a chance to sit back and, you know, reflect with everybody. You know, I got a chance to talk to Carl Willis after, you know, you know, we had just planned phone tag for so many, so many days.
Just trying to get a chance to call everybody back and, you know, all the text and, you know, but it's cool. I had a chance to spend, you know, a couple of days up in Cooperstown to go as a Hall of Famer and walk through the plaque hall and get a chance to sign my plaque. I mean, it's super special. To me, it's something that I never, you know, strive for while I was pitching. I always just wanted to win games and try to win a championship. But now that, you know, my career is over and having a chance to go in the Hall of Fame, you know, first ballot, I understand what that means as a baseball player, how hard it is to get to the baseball hall. So I'm just excited as a fan and, you know, just blessed and honored as a player.
Well, I mean, obviously it's amazing to see. So you've seen your plaque. It's already created. It's already up there.
Is that? No, it's just where the plaque is going to go. So you get a chance to sign, like, you know, they show you your spot and, you know, you get a chance to sign where your real estate is going to go. So your future real estate. So your signature will be underneath your plaque forevermore is basically what you're saying.
I love it. That's like putting your initials in the concrete in front of a new home, right? Like that's going to be out there in front of or like the guy that buried the big poppy jersey in the new Yankee Stadium. Well, this one's a little bit better.
Good luck, I imagine, or at least more well-intentioned for you. So walking around, though, and seeing other plaques of other people, knowing that you're now part, which one hit you when you saw that? The ones that hit me are Bob Gibson, you know, Ferguson Jenkins, Satchel Paige, you know, just having a chance to see those other, you know, African-American pictures of those other black pitchers that paved the way for me and, you know, my family and my dad was a huge baseball fan. He was a coach before I was born. My grandfather was a huge, huge Bob Gibson fan. So, you know, to go in the Hall of Fame and have the same amount of wins as Bob Gibson, you know, be the third lefty to have 3,000 strikeouts, like all these different things, you know, coming from Vallejo, California, it just seems impossible.
So, you know, and, you know, Pedro said this, you know, a couple of years ago, it's like, you know, just me going into the Hall of Fame, I think if kids can see somebody like me going into the Hall, you know, I feel like if I can make it, then, you know, really anybody can. Yeah. Look at you. There you are.
Just looking around. That's so cool. It's so cool.
I mean, you just take it in. It is cool because I'm such a fan. Like, I'm a sports fan. I'm a fan of football. I'm a fan of basketball. Huge fan of baseball. And I always thought, like, when I retired, that I would get away from baseball and I wouldn't be, you know, around the game. But we're a baseball family.
My wife's an agent. You know, my kids play the game. Our family is just so ingrained into the game of baseball that this is just the ultimate, you know, icing on the cake for not only my career, but just for my family. You know, my family was there throughout my whole career. I had kids young. You know, my wife was there to support me my whole time.
So, you know, this is as much of theirs as it is mine. Do you think you're the end of an era where complete games happened and the style of pitching that you had? And, you know, I mean, I'm taking a look at just your first year as a Yankee in the playoffs and you pitched into the seventh inning in every postseason game.
A couple, you actually gave eight complete. I mean, you just don't see that anymore. Do you think this? But I think I think it's, you know, it'll be Scherzer, you know, Kershaw, Verlander, you know, Greinke is that kind of, you know, I'm in that class, too. But that's yeah, I think that's, you know, the last of a really of a dying breed. And I think, you know, reevaluating who the next class of pitchers are that are going into the Hall of Fame, because I don't think they'll have numbers, you know, that Justin Verlander will have. I don't think they'll have numbers like Clayton Kershaw. I think you'll see, you know, guys that if they pitch a long time, they'll have one hundred and fifty wins and three thousand strikeouts just because of where the game is and, you know, the way that, you know, teams don't value pitchers have a win.
So, you know, to be interesting to see, you know, after that kind of class, you know, Verlander, Kershaw, Scherzer after those guys go in, who's the next wave of starting pitchers? Now, I mean, take a look at your your brief tenure with the Brewers after a deadline trade pick up, eleven wins, seven complete games, and in that tenure before the Yankees came and gotcha. And before we get to the Yankees, do you have a favorite Bob Euchre story that you can pass along to a family friendly audience, C.C.
Savathian? No, I mean, Euchre was just always great. I mean, we always, you know, I always spent a lot of time with him. He would always sit with me before my starts, you know, so, you know, before, you know, when the team was out taking BP, I would take BP early and I would come in and I would sit in the food room. I would get like a chicken sandwich and Euchre would come down and he would sit where we were talking. We'd tell stories. And I was pitching on three days rest.
So it got to be, you know, it got to be a lot. And by the end, and I remember just the last day of the season, he came down and we were sitting there. It was a day game. And we were sitting there and he was like, you know, we're going to do this every every time. Because as long as we keep going, you know, he'll keep coming, I'll keep coming down and hanging out with you. So it was always just cool to have a chance to spend time with him and, you know, hear his stories and, you know, talk about Hollywood. And he loved fishing. I was fishing at the time. So, you know, we spent a lot of time together on my start days.
So he would talk to you. What do you mean about Hollywood? What do you would just just like the movies, you know, just, you know, being in Major League and, you know, I always had a lot of questions, obviously. You know, I was a kid growing up in the 80s and 90s.
That was a huge baseball movie for me. So, you know, him being, you know, really the voice of that was kind of cool. And then, you know, having a chance to sit with them.
And I think it was just special for both me and him for him to sit with me on my start days. I was going out and, you know, I was I was pitching pretty well, I was cooking at the time. So, you know, I made for some for some fun, you know, you know, banter back and forth before I went out to pitch.
There's a few minutes left with CeCe Sabathia, Hall of Famer in football. You don't go in as somebody with a team, but in baseball, are you going in as a Yankee CeCe? Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I am, you know, it was, you know, the longest place I played, you know, I had a chance to win a championship here. You know, I live here. This is where I chose to, you know, raise my family. I've been here now 16 years. So, you know, the Bronx is a place where I found a home and it's been it was great to pitch in the pinstripes and excited to go in the hall with their Yankee hat on. Yeah.
And that's pretty cool. Have you spoken with them about having a day? Anything this this upcoming season, anything like that? Nothing yet.
We haven't we haven't talked about anything. You know, I thought the first pitch I just got a memo today. I thought the first pitch of the throughout the first picture of the before the first game of the year. So opening day, I thought the first pitch and then I'll be there for we have a big homecoming dinner where all the fans come back at night. So I'll be able to, you know, celebrate with them that night.
But, you know, nothing formal yet as a day. So hopefully. So the first pitch of the twenty twenty five Yankee season will be thrown by CeCe Sabathia is what you're saying. It's going very hard, though.
No, I mean, what do you I mean, what do you think? What what can you dial it up to for I got the left and after that, you know, you know, the way the way I finished with that shoulder injury, I just all I have is enough to just throw BP to the boys. My boys, I throw BP, too, OK, but trying to dial it up, I got nothing left, which is good because I was still trying to be coming out of the bullpen right now. Well, I'll take any innings you can deliver. And it's also a very important season for the Yankees, CeCe, because I don't know if you're aware, but when Juan Soto went to the Mets, he called New York a Mets town.
CeCe. You know, what's crazy about I always say this about this town is that the real fans in New York, because it's easy to be a Yankee fan, right? Because the Yankees win all the time and it's always easy to just fly Yankee banner. But the real like gritty fans of New York are the Mets and the Jets like the Mets and the Jets fans. If you sign up for that every single year and you still put on a Met's hat or you still put on the Jets, the Jets colors like you're a true fan, it's the same thing with me with the Raiders. Like, I know what I'm signing up for every fall. Right.
Yeah. But I'm still in silver and black and I feel for the Mets fans and I feel for the Jets fans. So I understand, you know, where Soto was coming from when he said that this is a Mets town because the real, real fans of this town, you know, have to, you know, if you're signing up for that every year, you've got to be a real fan. You've got to love your team. So one of my guys here, TJ Jefferson, say hello to CeCe, Sabathia with us. There we go.
Real bad. First of all, congratulations on the career. And don't bother him. This man has been so salty about losing one, Soto, like a lot of Yankees fans and it's gone to his head. And every day he just can't accept the fact that his team got spurned. He's like a spurned lover. You got it.
Next time you see him, ask him about his prom night on the Staten Island ferry. We don't have to go there. How dare you? Whoa. How dare you? CeCe, we're going to clip this.
I'm going to put it on the loop. Get out of here. Get out of here.
Wow. No, but let me ask you, CeCe, but but you know, obviously Soto is very talented and he's going to, I would imagine, share the same room as you one day in upstate New York. But that said, taking the money instead of him getting it, signing Max Freed, bringing in Bellinger, who I believe, I don't know if his dad there preceded you, but bringing Cody Bellinger, bringing in Goldschmidt, bringing in all of these relievers and spreading it out like that. I'm thinking the Yankees might actually be a better team.
Yeah, I think so. I mean, it was it was incredible what Soto did last year and obviously him hitting front of Judge. I mean, it was, you know, kind of both of their best best years.
I mean, it was it was incredible. It was like watching, you know, a throwback of, you know, two of the best hitters ever to play the game. But, you know, I think what the Yankees needed, you know, after watching that that was serious against the Dodgers and they're watching what the Dodgers did this offseason, they needed a lot more. They needed a lot more free agents. They needed to bring in a lot more depth. And I'm glad they got Goldschmidt. I'm excited to see Bellinger in that stadium, you know, so I definitely think it was money well spent. I mean, it would have been great to have Soto back because of what, you know, you just saw him, you know, doing 24. But the Yankees were well short of, you know, you know, having a chance to beat the Dodgers in the World Series.
So it's good they were able to get a little deeper. Can't blame him anyway. It's a Mets town. Last I heard. The Mets town.
He's like Juan Soto is suddenly Mad Dog Russo and Francesca combined. He's been there for less than a year and he calls it a Mets town rich don't even live in New York. OK.
He'll even live there. Come on. See, I'm sorry to drag you down to our level. Listen, it's great to see you. Congratulations on everything and look for more of my calls.
I'd love to get your thoughts on the Raiders every now and then. For sure. Let's do it. I would love to come on in the fall for sure.
I mean, the later it gets in the season, the more angry I'll be. But if you catch me early, we'll have some good convo. Thank you very much. Congrats again, CeCe.
Thank you. That's CeCe Sabathia, everybody, right here on the Rich Eisen Show, ladies and gentlemen. Let's take a break and get a news update on the Infinity Sports Network side of things from Dexter Henry. Whether you're ordering wings for the game, whipping up a seven layer dip or ordering pizza, there's something about football that makes you want to eat. And this football season, Uber Eats has the best deals on game day food, no matter what you're craving from two for one pizza to buy one, get one wings. Uber Eats will be dropping new deals each week.
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I will tell you this, Chiefs fans, football fans, Brett Veitch was on Patrick Mahomes from the very beginning, and Brett Veitch told me this year that we would take a picture with the Lamar Hunt trophy in the locker room of Arrowhead, and we did that, and he said that from the beginning multiple times. And now that is what we call an insider. An insider.
That's an insider. No, but I, look, I've known you for a long time. If I'm not mistaken, you are a mixture of ecstatic excitement and profound nervousness right now. Yeah, I call it measured. I am measured. I am a volcano of emotions inside. Yes, right now. I can see right now like you are.
You know, because I don't, I don't like to get the cart, you know, before the horses type of guy. I'm not, I know the 49ers are a good team. I also know we're a good team. I love that about the Super Bowl.
It's a great matchup. We each have things we have to do to win the ball game. We have to stop their run, and Patrick Mahomes has to be Patrick Mahomes. There's no doubt about it. And in terms of being Patrick Mahomes, you are particularly tight with some offensive linemen on this team. Yeah.
You've had so many analysts come on and sit in this chair this week, Eric, and say the offensive line for the Chiefs versus this defensive line of the 49ers, that is the matchup of Super Bowl 54. Yeah. And I'm wondering what these guys are thinking as they go into this game, because they know it too. They're professional athletes. They welcome the challenge. I know that for a fact. And I know this is their moment, and this is their time, and every single weight they've lifted, every single drop of sweat they've shed, every single drop of blood they've dripped is for this moment right now. And I don't have to tell them that.
They know that. Mitchell Schwartz is ready for Bosa. Fisher's ready for D4. Wherever they line up, we're ready for them. It is just amazing seeing this moment for you, knowing how much it means to you that you're actually here at a Super Bowl. This is actually happening.
I couldn't believe it. Going down there on the field after that and high-fiving those guys, and just the fact that Veatch told me, you're going to come down on the sidelines, and you're going to go in the locker room, and you're going to kiss the Lamar Hunt trophy with me. And that happening, and he said, brother, the next trophy we're going to kiss is the Vinny.
We kissed the Lamar. Let's get the Vinny. Kiss the Vinny. Kiss the Vinny. I like that.
Isn't that great? You should make a bumper sticker out of it. Kiss the Vinny.
Kiss the Vinny. And I'm rocking this right now for Andy. You've got the Hawaiian shirt going on. I went to the mall before I left LA, and I said, you know what?
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Yeah. And I'm very pleased what they've done otherwise. I actually do think they're better. I think Goldschmidt's an upgrade over Rizzo. I think Bellinger is an upgrade over Verdugo for sure. I mean, obviously he's not, no one's an upgrade over Juan Soto. And let's see what the rest of it looks like before the season begins and the Max Fried after Garrett Cole before Rodone and Heil.
That's a quartet I would take into the season. They're all just living in the Dodgers world, as you know, as they just keep on adding people from all over the globe to come in here and not be paid what their value is in real time. So they don't have to pay a luxury tax of significance. I mean, they're way over their payrolls, like half a billion dollars. They don't care.
What do they care? If that's the case, why shouldn't the Yankees and Mets be united? You know, you're trying to divide it even further. Like the Steagulls, the Yets, is that what we're going to call them? The Mankies. The Mankies. So what do we need to do in order to beat the Dodgers?
Just combine forces. Is that what you're saying? Dodgers are at 304 million right now. But why would you say in quotes, pal, in quotes at 304 million? That's still an insane number. I know, but the Yankees are over 300 million and I think are the Phillies also? No, only the Dodgers are over 300 right now. Phillies 280, Mets 275, Yankees 274.
Help us report. Compared to the Dodgers, you are. We all are. But we're not though.
Well. I'm just happy to finally be rooting for a small market team. That's all.
Here you go. Hey man, Andy Reid's coming up on this program. That's your... 158, the poor Boston Red Sox. What is going on? We have the worst ownership in the sport. In the sport. I would push back on that.
All right, a little aggressive, but they're terrible. Hey Chris, I've been wanting to read you this. I was going to take credit for this, but I'm not going to. Somebody tweeted this out about the Yankees Mets and he wrote, if the Mets had missed out on Soto and got a 30 year old declining pitcher, a 30 year old declining outfielder. Who's declining pitcher? I'm just reading this tweet. I'm just reading this. Why do you... Let him finish.
Let him finish. I don't care. Whoever this person is, I don't care. A 30 year old declining outfielder, a reliever via trade, a 37 year old first baseman and a 35 year old reliever who's never been good, there would be talks of it being the worst off season pivot of Major League Baseball history.
But because of the Yankees bias, it's apparently the best. Who's this person? Just a tweet I saw. Oh, but just some random random who hit send with their thumb. And now that you just read on Rich Eisen's show Property, listen, it is the... Is he wrong?
Is that how you decry? Chris Brockman. Hey, Rich. 30 year old pitcher. Describe Max Freitas. How? How? What?
I'm just telling you. What does this Jaime uncle say? Who's this person? I don't know what that means. Yucks.
Who's the yucks? He said if the Mets missed out on Soto and got a 30 year old declining pitcher or a 30 year old declining outfielder. Let me answer your question. I don't think Max... Is Max... Would you describe Max Freitas declining? I would not.
Thank you. Look, I didn't say it. I'm just... Cody Bellinger. He's declining as well? I would say probably.
Declining? Probably. He's not the NL MVP anymore. Correct?
That's true. Is he better? Is he better? Can he play first? Can he play center? Can he take some mileage off of Judge? Let him hang in right field? Can he do that? Is he better than Verdugo?
Hell yes. Freita had 3-2 ERA last year. That's declining, Chris. So let's read more tweets of people I don't know. Nobody cares about him. Exactly.
I saw Tim Oliphant at the Clippers game as well. Oh, nice. I did. Let me ask you this question. I'm just reading the tweet, bro. Let me answer this question. I want to get your opinion on what he said.
I'm down. TJ, I agree with you. In terms of how Tim Oliphant looked, would you say he's declining or not? Not declining. Not declining.
Reclining, inclining, whatever, this guy. That's funny. Look, man, I'm just reading tweets. That's all I'm doing. Thank you. I'm here for reading tweets.
Oh, because if there's any website or site that is chock full of things that you really need to know from randoms, it's X. Yeah. Thank you for that, TJ. You're welcome.
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