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Good to see you, Mike Del Tufo as well. And obviously, TJ Jefferson, we've already said hello, and the candle is already lit. So we start with what would break the Internet. Absolutely would break the Internet if Deion Sanders becomes the next head coach, the Dallas Cowboys.

It's just that simple. And yeah, it doesn't take much of a leap to connect those dots, that it would break the Internet and it would be everything that we talk about. It would suck the oxygen out of the NFL room. The two of them talked. Deion spoke to Adam Schefter on Monday night, gave a quote to Adam about how, you know, he and Jerry did speak and he loves Jerry and he also loves Colorado.

And there really wasn't any commitment either way. Nothing really happened in the next two days with the exception of an announcement that Robert Salo would be the first interview, the actual interview where the Cowboys say, we would like to talk. And he says, OK, let's talk and let's put it out there that we are going to talk about the head coaching position in the Metroplex. Then came Ed Werder's tweet today. Now, Ed goes way back covering the Dallas Cowboys to the point where he was already doing that when I arrived at ESPN in 1996. OK, so so, Ed, you know, it goes so far back that I remember wondering, why is Dan Patrick calling his name Edward Dare?

I don't understand why he's doing that. He did that off the air. DP would refer to Edward Dare. Edward Dare. You know, Edward Dare has more. He would just walk around the hallways just saying those words out loud to nobody in particular.

It was fantastic. That seems on brand. It's just, you know, one of my memories of being a 26, 27 year old was throwing the prefabricated cubicle halls of the worldwide leader in sports. Put it up, Ed Werder tweeted out just an apropos of just throwing it out there. Regarding Deion Sanders, I'm being told that he would almost certainly accept, if Jerry Jones offers to make him the next Cowboys head coach, that those around him are encouraging him to pursue it and that Jones is enamored with the idea.

I bet he is. We'll get to that in a second. Deion has since tweeted since that, or was this prior to, he tweets out, confusion is not of God. If you're experiencing confusion, please check who you're listening to, spending time with or allowing to influence you.

Why are you confused? There's a right and a wrong. It's this or that.

There ain't no gray areas. Hashtag coach prime. I don't know if that's in response to anything. It could truly be anything that's going on in Prime's life outside of this. And you know, he's got a lot going on.

He's got a lot going on from being the HC of the Colorado Buffaloes to being the co-host of a talk show to his reality show that has been following him around all year long, Coach Prime on Amazon, which you can see right here on Roku. He posted that about an hour and a half before Ed. Okay. And so, you know, that could truly be something going on on campus. I don't know. It could be in reference to Don't Believe What You See about the Dallas Cowboy coaching search.

All I will say is this. If Deion wants it, he should go pursue it. Does he want it?

And there's the pros and the cons for it. If I'm Deion, and again, I have not spoken to him. If I'm him and I want it, I would say the following to Jerry Jones.

Here's my number. And Jerry, I know you're, you know, you don't normally pay a coach this, but that's what I cost. Because not only would I be leaving a terrific situation here in Colorado where he has set up shop and they are thrilled that he has set up shop. And they also, and I know, I know, this I do know, that Deion always, always goes to bat for somebody who's gone to bat for him. That if you're in his circle of trust, you are enveloped. I've been in it. I know it.

I've seen it happen. And the fact that Colorado knocked on his door or however they were put together, and they're like, yeah, don't forget right now it looks like a no brainer, right? That Deion Sanders is a head coach of a college football program in major college sports. Colorado is the first one to say, come to Big 12 and bring your passion, your cult of personality, your essence, your family, your personality, name it.

Blenders. This spot is yours. Make it your home. And he showed up telling players to get their Louis Vuittons ready. And I'm wondering how many of the players that eventually left Colorado knew what he was referring to. Like, hey, bags need to be packed.

And my bags are made by Louis Vuitton. That's what the LV on the side means. You know? And I think that that would matter to him. And the ability of, you know, getting these five star recruits that he's bringing in and keeping this building going of a program and a national championship program can be built there. And he is perfect for these times of the NIL and the portal. He is perfect for talking to young men ages 16, 17, 18 through 22. He is perfect for the moment.

And he's perfect in that spot. But the Dallas Cowboys come, come knocking on the door and Jerry Jones says, I want you then. Then Dion would say, this is my number. And, Jerry, these are the guys that I need to bring. These are the ladies from the staff that I need to bring. Like, I need to set up shop.

And you need me to set up shop. Quite frankly, let me ask you this question. How do you think Dion Sanders would get the most out of Micah Parsons? Or Trayvon Diggs? I mean, right, like you're even smiling, like you can't even comprehend you're smiling so much. I mean, especially when it comes to Trayvon Diggs, when you're talking about a D back, like it's the Mount Rushmore of defensive backs right there.

How could you not pick something up from that? Do you think Dion could connect with Micah Parsons? Absolutely. Do you think Dion would mind if Micah Parsons had his own podcast? I do not. Correct. He might give him a few guidelines, but he might he might say, hey, I'm forming my own podcast network.

How would you like to be on it? You know what I mean? Like, that's the way Dion is going to be building business of his own outside of the business of the Dallas Cowboys. And if there's anybody who should appreciate that, it is Jerry Jones. Because that's what you'd be bringing in. You'd be bringing in Dion Incorporated and sold me and marrying him to Jerry Jones Incorporated. And I'm sure that's part of the reason why Jerry Jones is enamored. By the idea of having Dion. And bringing the X's and O's and bring in maybe sap to coach the defensive line. And do you think Michael Irvin would be part of the program a little bit more?

So on and so on and so on. And I'm sure as Jerry's sitting there thinking about it, it makes complete sense in that regard. And Dion would have to sit here and think, Dion's got to get five, six year deal. And it's got to be a large amount of money. And that money also needs to be bringing in a large staff that Dion is bringing with him. And it's just, he has to set up shop.

And I'm sure he will stand that ground even though coming to coach the Dallas Cowboys to go from coaching the youth truth to the Dallas Cowboys. Where Dion used to live in Prosper, Texas. And that house he used to bring us into. That was like half, it looked like the Bellagio hotel with the Dave and Busters inside. Is that the one you said his closet had a two story closet? His closet had a two story closet. Where the ceiling was made of plexiglass.

And so you would go up on the top and he'd hold the shoes that were on the second floor over the suit on the first floor to see if it would match. And we walked out and I remember Marshall Faulk. Marshall Faulk muttered to me as we were walking out of that spot saying, this is baseball money.

Yeah, that happened. And so for Dion to be, to go back to the Metroplex as the HC of the Dallas Cowboys. And I'm sure the people who are saying you need to consider this are folks who see the business aspect of it as well. So why not? Right, why not?

Why not? You've excited us as a fan base. So now it's like. Well, I mean, and again, if indeed, how many people have come on this show over the last 48 hours, let alone 48 days, let alone 48 months who say whenever it's Jerry Jones, the conversation comes up about him and the way he does business that he just loves being talked about.

Part of the reason why he drags everything out. Let's just wave along and say Dion Sanders becomes the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Abracadabra. Who is on the Dallas Cowboys schedule?

Orange. The scene of Braveheart. OK, just name the most violent scene in in Gladiator.

OK, like the opening scene of Gladiator, the the big scene of Braveheart. That would be that would be just imagine that and sports television executives fighting over this. Look at the the home in a road schedule for the Dallas Cowboys. Namely, obviously, each each one of the division games would want it. They'd want to have it on national television. Cowboys Giants makes it on national TV. You know, coast to coast stand alone game almost every year. Obviously, the Eagles, obviously Jayden Daniels and the commanders, you'd want to see that. How about. Dion having a home game against Andy Reid, Mahomes and the Chiefs.

How does that hit you? How about Dion's Cowboys visiting the Raiders if the Raiders are employing their son at quarterback, his son at quarterback? How about the Lions? Let's just wave a wand as well and say congratulations, Lions. You've won the Super Bowl. And you have an opening night and a banner raise.

Ceremony in Ford Field. How about putting Dion's Cowboys there? How how many teams who have the possibility to win Super Bowl?

How many people? Right. You know, obviously the Eagles, the commanders, the the Lions are on that list right there. How about the Lions maybe raising a banner with Dion's first game as head coach? The Cowboys is there. How about Dion even going back to Colorado to take on the Denver Broncos? How about Dion welcoming in Jim Harbaugh's Chargers?

You see where I'm going with this? The Packers. I haven't even mentioned the Packers of the Vikings coming to Dallas.

Pretty much every game would be must see. For the Dallas Cowboys. The Jets, that's New York. Well, so is the Giants as well. I mean, he makes the Cowboys make two trips to MetLife next year.

I'm just throwing this out here because that's what Jerry sees. And obviously, you know, let's just for and I don't mean this to denigrate whatsoever because no one's Dion. No one is Dion. No one like, for instance, Robert Sala has never hosted SNL or rapped about being must being the money as never almost won the MVP in a World Series.

Yada, yada, yada. Jerry Curl. Correct. But out of all of those, which one would you want to see if Robert Sala was the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys?

His return to the Jets. That's about it. Right. Like so.

So if you're talking about if the buzz matters, if the interest level matters, if being talked about really does matter, there's really only one guy that can actually put it into an other orbit in stratosphere. It's that simple. Now, there is the issue of winning football games.

How does that how does that factor in? Because, as I mentioned earlier this week, you want to talk to be talked about in the NFL the most? Win.

Be a champion. The Chiefs are on every commercial. They're bundle rooskiing. They're doing this.

They're doing that. You know, everyone who's got Chiefs fatigue kind of enjoyed that bye week last week. Well, here comes potentially three more weeks or the next month. Divisional playoffs, AFC Championship game, bye week Super Bowl. That's being talked about.

One way to potentially burst through and have the Dallas Cowboys talked about enough hiring Deion Sanders. Think about it. We just did. We just spent 15 minutes on it. Yeah.

844-204-rich number to dial. We'll talk about it with Marcus Spears. Ed Reed, former teammate of Deion's, back in the day when Deion had a minute with Baltimore, if you remember that. And Ed Reed's into coaching as well. We'll talk with Ed about all that in hour number three. Mike Florio will join us from Pro Football Talk. And, you know, with us having conversations about the Steelers and what about Tomlin? What about the quarterback? Well, let's get Jerry Dulack here. Let's get him in here. I assume he's done binging suits.

Suits. Enough time. That was the show. I couldn't think of it.

He's got a new one coming up, though. That's right. Reboot.

It's coming back. Suits LA. I'll hit that with Jerry. And there's you at 844-204-rich number to dial. I've got my top five performances of the college football playoff as well. 844-204-rich number to dial here.

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We were talking here like, what are we going to talk about to start the show? And then Ed Werder pops out there and goes, yeah, Dion would almost, what does he say? Almost certain to take it? Yeah, hold on, let me get the actual wording here. What's the actual phrase? Which he's not throwing around, that people are encouraging Dion to pursue it. Yeah. Almost certainly accept.

Yep. Again, Jerry's got to bring the cheddar though. I mean, he can't, he can't just, you know, what, he paid McCarthy $8 million?

Well, we had to double that. Listen, this man, this man once had a hit record called Must Be The Money. And he's also, he's also negotiated with Jerry and he signed a free agent deal with Jerry? That's the, those are the video, that's the video with him and his pinstripe suit sitting next to Jerry in the... Well, the Nike commercials get me Dion.

But TJ, you have a autographed Dion Sanders jersey over there. The S he is makes the dollar sign. Dollar sign, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know. Dude. Got to do it.

Got to do it for Jerry. Listen, what have I been telling you guys for years now? That you want Kellen Moore? Listen, listen, listen, this guy, listen. I've been telling you that the Dallas Cowboys are, they're more concerned about the business of the Dallas Cowboys sometimes than what goes on on the football field.

Now there's a chance to, I guess, be both, right? You got the business and now we might be able to win some football games. Dion brings brains and energy to the operation.

I mean, we have won some football games, I should say, but different. This is, I need some exciting guys. How would he handle Dak? Remember, Dion would just, whenever there was a mistake or a bad pick, he would scream, cut him.

That guy would be cut before he would scream. I know all the time. Back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network. I'm sitting at the Rich Eisen Show desk furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call clickranger.com or just stop by. He's carving himself a terrific career on television, as you can see him on all the shows on ESPN. Here on the Rich Eisen Show is Marcus Spears. Good to see you, Marcus. How you been? Rich, what's up, brother? What's up? Let me go ahead and get this bone off my chest that I got to pick with you, Rich. Okay.

This is, this is Yuri Levin, Rich, and this is my first time on the show. Oh my goodness. Wait a minute, that's not true. Is that true? When?

When? I don't remember. It's your producer's fault, Rich. It ain't me and you. Okay, no, no, no.

It's your producer's fault. Well, first of all, if I could have sworn, uh-oh, you're giving me that look like that is true. It might be. No, it might be, it could be. It is. Yeah, it's his first time on the show.

Marcus, Rich, because I've been wanting to come on the show, so that's how I know. That's how I know, man. Okay, well. Man, it's an honor to be on with you, brother. I appreciate it, and I really am enjoying, you know, your work.

Thank you, man. And, you know, it's so not easy to break into television, and, you know, when did you know you really wanted to do it, Marcus? When did that happen? Rich, it was, I mean, it was really LSU, man. I had a great sports information director, a dude named Michael Bonnet, who kind of introduced me to how, you know, to make yourself more valuable off the field. Obviously, on the field, I was having some success, so I talked to him about it quite a bit, did a lot of interviews.

I would say yes to a lot of stuff at LSU as well. And then when I got to Dallas, I mean, you've been in this long enough to know that this is a 24-7 news cycle where you play for the Cowboys. And I had, you know, ESPN was in the locker room every day. Ed Werder was there. We had a lot of reporters, a lot of cameras that followed us around. And, you know, media availability in Dallas is probably different than anywhere else in the NFL.

They have the ability to be in the locker room on a day-in, day-out basis. And then, brother, I did a radio show on my off days with a guy named Brady Tinker, who is here in Dallas, been a staple in media. So it was building to that point, Rich. But honestly, man, when I retired, well, when I was released from Baltimore, I knew I wanted to do something. But for me, that was going to be I wanted to go and kind of be a consultant. This was my business.

This was my entrepreneurial cap. I wanted to be a consultant for newspapers, for the sports writers, for when they write sports stories and when they talk about games that they would have an understanding of the game so they could write it. The old it was the DB fault, but really the safety was supposed to be over the top. And I saw so many of those arguments in the locker room with writers who and I feel almost out of place and uncomfortable saying it that didn't really know the game from the detail standpoint. So they were right without context at times.

So my idea was that. So when I retired, bro, I went and interned at the Dallas Morning News for $2.75 an hour and wanted to kind of learn the business and realize real quick, Rich, that the cubicle life was not for me, brother. So so but I really learned a lot. I enjoyed my time at the Dallas Morning News. And then my sister hit me and was like, yo, you see, they're starting the SEC network. And obviously in the locker room, we will argue all the time.

I'm sure it still goes on about the SEC versus other conferences. And I was like, yeah, that'll be that'll be dope. So and then my wife my wife knew I was trying to pursue radio.

I was going to do a radio show here in Dallas. And she was like, no, you need to be on TV. You need people to see your personality. You love to have fun. You know the game.

So my sister and my wife pushed me. And then I sent a I sent a tweet to a producer at ESPN, Stephanie Drewley. You know her. Yeah.

Yeah. And she hit me back. And I was like, I want to, you know, Rich, it was I was so green. I was like, I want to try out.

But for us by the SEC network and that word trial for me now, because obviously it's audition. And she hit me back and we she said, send some reels. And I was like.

Fishing reels, like, why would she want reels like fishing reels for me to see and when I'm trying to get a job on TV. That's how that's how naive and green I was, bro. And that's amazing.

Yeah. She was like, so since since something you've done. So I tried to compile stuff that I did. And I eventually got the audition and went up to Bristol and audition and got the job, man. Hey, I remember going to Bristol for my audition. I was 26 years old. I didn't know anything. So, you know, I thought I did. And it's kind of crazy. But just hearing your story, Marcus, you're like, you know what?

The first thing I wanted to do is make sure those who talk about the sport understand the sport. And now you do what you do with the people you do it with in the business. I know. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. You must be, you know, really teaching. I would I would I would like to think I know something about it, man.

You do my ten thousand dollars. And that's that's the beauty of the shows that you're on as well. Right. Like that you're on the shows that there's arguments about it. And you got to you got to you got to get into that that trench, verbal trench, if you will. And then obviously the NFL live where you are talking some really smart football with some smart people who know what they're talking about. It's pretty cool.

And so before we just jump in. So was Parcells the guy who was on the phone with you on draft night 20th overall back in 2005? Like your phone rings and that's Bill Parcells on the other end of the line. Yes, sir. And it was crazy because, you know, you know, obviously playing for Saban, you had that connection with those guys.

But Richard was so funny. I was super excited. I'm sitting in the I'm sitting in the family room with my with my family and my sister's apartment. We waiting on the announcement and literally Bill gets on the phone and said, I want you to show up at 310. I'll see you in two weeks.

Congratulations. And that was it. That was it, bro. Not welcome to Dallas Cowboys or nothing like that, man. It was it was down to business.

And I think it was wow. I think it was his rapport with Nick Saban that kind of made him feel super comfortable. But the first two years I wanted to punch Bill Parcells in the face every day. I just I didn't I didn't like him.

I didn't like him at all. But but, you know, when you're young, you got this you got this mentality. I'm coming from LSU where I'm all American. I've done everything on the field. You got this mentality that you just usher into the NFL and you straight. But Bill, Bill, I got to give him a lot of credit for teaching me how to be a pro, man. But but those first those first couple of years, man, was rough. I was coming from a four three to a three four. I had to play blocks and hold up blocks for linebackers. I wasn't getting sacks. And I'm like, man, this sucks.

And then then then they made me understand, you know, the job is the job and carved out a carved out a really good career from doing it. Marcus Spears here on the Rich Eisen Show. So, you know, Jerry Jones, you know, the Cowboys, you know, football.

Dion Sanders is head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Marcus Spears, what do you think of that possibility? I like the possibility, Rich. I've come around last year.

If you would ask me this, I would have said, nah, need to see more. I think, Rich, let's be honest, bro. A lot of times, you know, in this business, people get enamored with names and they get enamored with things. And just to throw Dion name out there for me was just it was really more about prime time and what he did beyond coaching.

Too early, right? Like now we have a two year sample size of building culture at Colorado. We have two players from Colorado are going to go in the top 10 of the NFL draft. That's a byproduct of Dion, even though one is his son and one is Travis and Travis probably would have been drafted however he went.

But the fact that you was able to get him to commit to Jackson State and then move with you to Colorado tells me a lot about relationships. You see some of these meetings that he had in team meetings is it's a healthy level of respect, but it's also a healthy demand. The coaching staff that he was able to put together, the people that he was able to attract. Forget the forget the people on the sidelines and everybody he attracts. This the Dallas Cowboys. People don't show up to the games regardless of who the coach is.

But I think that coaching substance is really what was on display for me over the last couple of years in Colorado. And that to me leads itself to this. And I said this on Monday Night Countdown last week. Rich, you got to have somebody in the building that can challenge Jerry from a from a stature standpoint. We all know the stories you've been covering this game long enough to know that Jerry wants to have his hand and everything. If if Jerry was to hire Dion and make no mistake about it, that Jerry would still be involved. But I think Dion will have enough cash to say, hey, let me handle this, Jerry. Let me take care of this. Let me like these things is what we need to change.

This is what we need to do. And I think it will fall on Jerry's ears a little differently and no disrespect. Then it coming from Mike McCarthy or Jason Garrett or Wade Phillips. Everybody thought Bill Parcells was going to be able to kind of change that narrative about Jerry being super involved. And I'll tell you this, Rich, if Prime can't do it. It's a lost cause forever, brother.

Until until God called Jerry home. So I think I think he would be a team builder. I think he would be a culture builder. But more importantly, in their front office, I think he could sit at that table and say, yo, this is what I need in order to make this team better.

And I need you to get this done as opposed to being a subordinate. And sometimes it's super uncomfortable for me to use that word because these other coaches have a healthy level of respect. Mike McCarthy is a well respected coach in these circles. But I said it when he was hired. Rich, it was funny. I was on first take live when Mike McCarthy got hired.

Adam Schefter broke the news. And I you know, they asked me how you feel about it. I said, well, I mean, if if it's going to be the same old, same old as what Jerry has done, Mike McCarthy will have some success, but nothing will will be won and nothing will be different.

And at the end, it'll probably be some noncommittal situation. I'm not calling myself Nostradamus. I'm just looking at how the how the three previous worked out before Mike McCarthy showed up.

I think I could change that. Nostra Marcus Spears here on The Rich Eisen Show from ESPN. So let's let's jump to the playoffs of the eight teams remaining the team to beat. And I know even just asking that question when there is a 15 win team that can three Pete sounds ridiculous.

But there are some stout competitors, to say the least. Who is the team to beat of the remaining eight in these playoffs? Marcus Spears. I got to go Baltimore, man.

I got to go Baltimore. And it's one one thing that scared me beyond obvious. Right. And the apprehensive this is obviously you put the Chiefs up there with an asterisk. Right. Like they got to be where we deal with them.

We don't talk about everybody else. But this is probably the team that we need to isolate and feel more comfortable about them taking care of business. But I think like I think the AFC Championship last year for Lamar is going to put him in a position to do anything he has to do to win the win these games.

And, you know, as well as I know, Rich, sometimes the do over is the best thing to happen to you and to find yourself in this position. And that's from a mental part with Lamar, because I you know, I've said it before, I think I think Patrick not think Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL. I think Lamar Jackson is the best football player in the NFL.

And there's a difference in that, even though Lamar plays the position at a very high level, just quarterbacking out of the pocket. I still think there is a there is a magnetic energy around this dude that that he can do whatever he wants to do at any time on the field when he makes his mind up to do it. And last year I was frustrated and came on after the AFC Championship because I felt like he was playing coy and he was trying to be too careful and not just letting it all hang out. I think he does that this year, man. And obviously we know that beast that he has in the backfield with him, they dictate so much of what you can do defensively. Derek Henry, I see you putting up King Henry with the smile on his face as he's running yards down your throat. I mean, you know, knowing that I'm bigger than my old lineman and nobody could catch me once I break through the second part of the line.

But yeah, man. And then, too, I think I think I think this Mark Andrew, I think Todd Monk and offensive coordinator has figured out this Mark Andrews as a likely usage. And Rich, I'm gonna be honest with you, I think it's the most dominant thing in these playoffs is those two tight ends on the field at the same time, because you have to put big personnel on the field to try to defend them. And I don't think safeties and linebackers can defend either one of those guys. One on one situation.

Marcus Spears here on the Rich Eisen Show. So while we're isolating teams, let's isolate the home teams and the Ravens, who you just said is the team to beat outside of maybe Kansas City. So let's let's let's isolate the Rams, commanders and Texans. If you had to choose one to go on the deepest run, if not threaten the whole shooting match, it would be who? The Rams, man.

Why is that? Because because one McVeigh, I think McVeigh is as good as it gets. And that performance that the defense coordinator Shula put on against Minnesota, even though he took it from Detroit the week prior, was phenomenal. But I think there is something to Stafford in these moments, his ability to execute along with Sean McVeigh, you know, Puca and Cooper being healthy, this offensive line being back in tag.

Karen Williams. But, Rich, I'm not sure if I'm higher on a singular group in the NFL than this young defensive line from the Rams, bro. They are absolute menaces. And I think they can dictate games. And we saw a lot of that against Minnesota. Obviously, the challenge gets heavier with Philly and that offensive line and what they can do. But the team that I think challenge out of the NFC because I have Philly going to the Super Bowl.

But I think, you know, we'll we'll get the match up here in a few days. But I think I 100 percent think the Rams can make a deep playoff run boring. They stay healthy. And with that experience and their head coach on the sideline and that defense playing the way they played. And Dan Orlowski, I got to give him credit. We both actually have been on this talking about if the Rams get in the playoffs is scary because I always try to get people to think in this way.

And this is probably why Andy and Pat and Travis have been so good. All you're preparing for is that three hours, bro. You're not worried about next week. You're not worried about playoff positioning. You're not worried about keeping guys healthy.

What kind of minimal usage can we give a guy and still be effective? Everybody is involved. It's all hands on deck. So you're getting the best coaching, you're getting the best plays, you're getting the best situation of football. And you obviously getting the best performances out of these guys that do it time and time again. And I think the Rams have a little bit of that mixture as well. So based on what you just said, do you take the Ravens and the Eagles to face each other in the Super Bowl?

Is that what you're saying right now? Yeah, that's who I have in the Super Bowl, man. And I'll probably be proven wrong by Kansas City. Listen, I chose Kansas City the Tuesday after Labor Day. I stuck with them on game day morning when our producers there give us two options to Mulligan.

Well, I mean, they give you an option at Thanksgiving and at the outset before a single playoff games played on wildcard weekend. And I stuck with it. I stuck with it.

And I appreciate you saying that I'm smart. Two years ago, I said the Raiders would would finally dethrone them in the AFC West. Really the one of the I know one of the worst calls I've ever had behind the fact that the Miami Heat shouldn't trade for Giannis.

But that's a different story from a different day. I was wrong and they won two Super Bowls since, you know, without Tyreek Hill. And then one year they're supposed to, you know, not supposed to do it because Mahomes is hurt. Next year they do it without needing to flip a switch after Christmas.

They did it. I mean, that's why you isolate them. You know what I'm saying? So I'm a LeBron guy, right? But it's like the conversation with Jordan and LeBron, right? I think you put those two in a conversation and I'm not here to fight basketball, but I think when you have in the conversation about greatest of all time is those two.

And then everybody else that you want to introduce into that conversation, you've got to have a crazy, crazy argument. And there's still some apprehension about our order or, you know, is the third guy, which is some people for that's Kobe, some people Kareem and is the third guy really like these two? And I think that's how you think about Kansas City. Like, man, like this is Jordan and we know the Ravens are good. We know Detroit is good. We know that the Buffalo Bills are good and Josh Allen. We know that.

But until like they do something, we got to isolate these guys and they are the only ones a part of that conversation. So it's almost like when you learn in school, the understood you in the sentence. That's who the Chiefs are right now. Yeah.

And they understood you. And I know you just made that analogy to the current playoff positioning. I think at the end of the day, potentially the Jordan LeBron argument that we see from different generations now might be Mahomes and Brady one day like that. That may be it. And I know, you know, the Kobe is somebody else, you know, could be. I don't know. It could be Lamar. Who knows?

Josh. Yeah. Yeah.

Could be. Like Burrow got it. Obviously, they got to fix things in Cincinnati.

But yeah, I 100 percent agree with you, man. It's look at Pat wins this third one now. I got a question for you. You interviewing me? I got a question for you.

All right. If Pat wins this third one and we've seen what he's done in his career, is it legitimate to have a conversation about him being the greatest of all time? Well, not yet.

Not yet. Because Brady did it. Brady did it into his mid 40s. You know, Brady, Brady did. Brady did it with one coach. Mahomes is not going to be able to do that. I don't think I don't know if Andy Reid's going to be there at age 70. It's possible.

I don't know. Brady did it with different teams. Three out of four when he first started. Then he wound up with Gronk and Edelman. You know, he did it in different times. He did it after nine years. He also blew his knee out one time. I mean, there's so many different things that happened to Brady that we need to see potentially Mahomes negotiate.

But in terms of the first part of a career, it's better than Brady's if he wins this one. I would agree. Marcus, thanks for the time. Let's do this again. How's that sound? I mean it. And that's not one of those L.A. things like let's hang out and then I never call you.

Like, seriously, like this is the real thing. Thank you. No doubt. I want to come sit on the seat, man. Sit on the seat and chop it up with you. Let's do it. Marcus Spears.

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Download June's Journey now on Android or iOS. What was your baseball game like? My baseball game, actually my baseball game was pretty good, but I couldn't, I didn't play in high school. I played like recreational league in Babe Ruth. OK. And I used to pitch. Pitch? Pitch, I'm hit. So what was your pitching game like?

The pitching game was pretty good. I mean, I didn't, you know, it was a heavy ball. I didn't know, I had no idea how fast I was throwing, but people used to say, man, you got a heavy ball. So when we're watching you swing in Major League as Pedro Serrano.

Yeah. Is that your swing? That's my swing. Oh, and I don't know if we ever talked about this, but every ball I hit out, I hit out, except not as far as they shot it out because they have to reverse the camera.

Hold on a second, Dennis Haysbury. How many home runs did you hit? Well, I hit three in the movie, right? I think I hit three in the movie. I hit, every one of them I hit out. OK. And all the batting practice?

Oh yeah, I used to hit, oh yeah, I used to hit routinely. So were you the best hitter of all the actors in that movie? I would say so.

I would say so. Charlie and I were the only guys that could really play baseball. Wesley was really athletic.

OK. And could run. But wasn't much of a hit. He couldn't hit. But could Charlie hit or he was just... Charlie could hit. And Charlie could pitch. But you went yard more than anybody else in the cast of Major League. Except for the guys, the baseball guys that were out there. Actual.

So who was the worst? I can't, I won't say. Yes, you can.

You absolutely can. That microphone works. Corbin Bernsen, could he... Corbin was OK. I think Tom Barington was maybe the worst. No kidding. I love you Tom.

He forced it out of me, man. Were you superstitious as well? Are you a superstitious guy? Not really. But I realized how superstitious baseball players are.

Of that, there is no doubt. I mean, I used to have a lot of guys come up to me and say, Hey, we used to play this movie on the bus going to the game. And I set firecrackers off on our bats to wake them up. Did anybody have rum? Did anyone incorporate rum? They started using that. A lot of guys said they started using...

Baseball players started using rum? Yeah. Do you have any artifacts from the film anywhere? I finally got a Jobu doll. I don't have the original because I wanted to get rid of that. Because that was voodoo I was practicing. And I said, you know what?

Certain things you got to leave on the set. And somebody took that and I don't know where they are now because I haven't heard from them again. Right.

So they took a voodoo doll, man. I said, okay. Okay. No. I have a facsimile.

You have a facsimile of Jobu. Obviously, when the radio audience returns, we'll talk about why we're showing you major league material that we've grabbed throughout the years. I'll never forget. I met Charlie Sheen years later.

Well, years earlier than this. But when I was on Sports Center at the 98 World Series and his hand was all messed up because he had a bandage on his hand. And I asked him, like, you all right? He goes, I'm fine.

He goes, I just wear this so people aren't asking me for autographs every two seconds. Wow. That's interesting. Wow. Yeah.

I'm sorry, I can't sign. I got, you know, my hand hurts. That guy, man.

That's pretty funny. I know. I got some other stories that aren't suitable for broadcasting. Oh, come on.

Eyes in after dark. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-rich number to dial. News crossed this morning and when you see it, it's like, oh, man. You know, and I'm sure it is more than just that for those who knew and loved Bob Euchre, who passed away today at the age of 90. What a life for this man. And, you know, born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and turned a six-year career as a backup catcher hitting 200 into one of the greatest entertaining careers and broadcasting careers of all time, 54 seasons at the microphone for the Milwaukee Brewers. And then, of course, nationally, he would do a national broadcast for ABC and his appearances on Johnny Carson.

Laugh out loud funny, go down to YouTube, Warren Wall folks. Johnny Carson dubbed him Mr. Baseball and then the Miller Lite commercials where he must be in the front row and then he would be in the front row and the next thing you see, he's in the last row of the stadium. He must be in the front row. Mr. Belvedere, he did a sitcom for six years, six seasons. And one of the most remarkable things about that, if you know, a sportscaster having a butler.

That's odd. He did WrestleMania twice. WrestleMania 3 and 4, TJ.

Did you know that? Yeah. He was the ring announcer for Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant. There's a great segment where Andre wraps his huge hands around Uyghur's neck and starts to choke him and, like, his whole face is just enveloped. His whole head's just gone.

Right? He's so big. And the 2003 Ford Frick winner got into the Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum. And I'm sure most of you know him from Major League and Major League Two where he played the announcer for Cleveland and the most famous phrase where he would just bring his very sarcastic edge to the broadcast on a horrible pitch. He would just say, just a bit outside. And, you know, I don't know how many times I say that out loud. We all say it out loud, right? All the time.

Just a bit outside. No, it's too high. Oh, my gosh. But most importantly, and I never met him. Oh, really? No.

Wow. Never met him. But everybody who worked with him and knew him say, you do know him.

The guy that you see on TV, the guy that you hear on the radio is exactly the guy you meet, except he's even better in person and nicer in person and more inviting in person and lover of baseball and life and laughter. Damn it. We lost someone who is just so necessary for so many of us to listen to and remember. He left a lot of memories behind, though, man. Passed away at the age of 90 years old. Rest in peace, Bob Euchre.

And we're still here on our Roku television side of things. Let's play it. Al Michaels came by and told a story of calling a game with Howard Cosell and Bob Euchre.

Hit it. Euchre and Cosell and I are doing a game in, I think it was Houston. And Howard, you know the way Howard was. He was, baseball's such a simple game.

They make it so complicated. So it's a situation late in the game where Howard is calling for a bunt. Now, when somebody calls for a bunt in a situation where you can't bunt, you know they know nothing about baseball. So Euchre and I, you know, now Howard would be spewing all of this misinformation. And now Euchre's trying to, you know, explain to Howard carefully, you know, why you probably wouldn't bunt in this situation. So it's a little bit, he's chiding him minimally. And Cosell says on the air, he says, okay, Yuki, you know, you don't have to be so truculent.

You do know what truculent means, don't you? And without hesitating, Euchre says, of course, Howard, if you had a truck and I borrowed it, it would be a truculent. And that is Bob Euchre. Without skipping a beat?

Without skipping a beat. And the other thing with Euchre is we're doing a game, it's just the two of us are doing a game later that season. And Charlie Finley owns the A's and he wants to introduce the alert orange baseballs, like the tennis balls, so you can see them. So we start talking about it, the game is terrible and we're going back and forth. And then Euchre finally says, look, the bottom line is, this could never happen. I go, why not? He said, you couldn't find enough diseased horses.

So how does the brain work like that? Wow. So good. I have a truculent. You're so truculent. You know what truculent means. Yeah.

You had a truck, you didn't let me borrow it, it was a truculent. That's amazing. Just a bit outside. And I know this means this is just an absolute crusher for so many Brewers fans who wanted a World Series and you'd see him in the locker room, right? With these celebrations. He was part of the celebrations.

They brought him in the locker room, they were dousing him when they were winning the division or winning a playoff series and moving on and hoping that he would be part of a parade. And my gosh, what a life of entertaining people and bringing smiles to faces and telling stories and just being a regular guy and being famous for it. To his family and friends and extended baseball family, we send our heartfelt condolences, Bob Euchre at the age of 90. Rest in peace. Hey, it's Rich Eisen here.

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