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And if I'm Sam Darnold, I accept that number. Today's guest, NBC Sports Boston Patriots insider Tom Curran. Fox Sports college football analyst Bruce Feldman.
Bill's linebacker Von Miller. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hey everybody, welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Live on the Roku Sports Channel and a 120 now affiliates of the Rich Eisen Show radio network on Infinity Sports Network. Yeah, very exciting.
844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Let's have a conversation today. And we're very excited that you're joining us right here on the program. So much to talk about in our football loving world.
And that's not including the news that the city of Cleveland is suing the Browns. That's actually happening right now. It's a crazy world that we're living in and we want to hang out together. Again, 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. How are you?
Hey Rich, I'm good man. I've still got a few Thin Mints left. Fantastic. So we'll probably finish those today. DJ Michael Dean is in these nuts. We'll let you have them.
He's not a fan of those for whatever reason. I don't know what with the Girl Scouts cookie slander. Tag along. Good to see you over there, TJ Jefferson.
How are you? I mean, I like Thin Mints. Good. And I cannot lie. I know, but I like them. Different version of that song I never heard.
844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. The Wednesday of an NFL week is the time to turn the page. And it's now time to turn the page on Wild Card Weekend. And part of the reason why we're doing it is because the games are... We're not so super.
You know, I'm glad the NFL wanted to drop the super of the Wild Card Weekend moniker because the games weren't so super. Rich, can we get the super drop with just one last time? Would you care to guess... I deleted it. Would you care to guess...
I deleted it. Would you care to guess the average margin of victory in the four college football playoff first round games, if you want to hearken all the way back to the end of December, the first round on campuses of the college football playoffs and the margin of victory of five of the six, removing the Commanders and Buccaneers last second three-point margin of victory. Would you care to guess the nine football playoff games first round of the college football playoffs and the National Football League playoffs? Would you care to guess what that is? Chris Brockman. I'm going to say Patrick Mahomes, 15. Okay.
This is kind of like a Price is Right thing, closest without going over. Give me my music. Yeah, give him some music, Mike Diltufo.
Give me the music. We didn't ask this before, but I just decided to come up with this. Thank you. Would you care to guess? I say 18. 18. Closest without going over, T.J. Jefferson, 15 and 18, the college football playoffs and five of the six wild card round margin of victory. 14, Rich. Ah, the winner is Mike Diltufo.
I believe Mike Diltufo, you've won all the playoff games. Oh, 18.33. Wow. Do I win both?
I'm kind of surprised you should. The Rams 18 point victory brought the margin of victory down from 18.5 to 18.33. So we turn the page.
Let's go to the divisional round. And in that regard, I've got, as you can see on the Roku Sports Channel, courtesy of NFL Network Research, four different packets. Wow. Look at that. So many packets. Of the four different games.
So many research, research, research numbers. And guess what I'm going to do? I am now going to take the red colored. Packet. Packet? Well, I've got, as you could see, the paperclip.
Packet? Yeah. It's the Kansas City Chiefs because now's the time. I understand. You know what? Some shows might be leading with the Dallas Cowboys coaching search.
Yada, yada, yada. We'll get to that later. A lot of folks might want to talk about the marquee matchup of divisional playoff weekend.
Bills and Ravens. I get it. I understand it. I buy it as the marquee matchup.
I understand. Part of the reason why a lot of folks want to talk about that game in the AFC is because of two words. Chiefs fatigue. And part of the reason why there's Chiefs fatigue is of the thick 20 pages on the Chiefs and Texans game that NFL Network Research has come up, the first five feature statistics about the Chiefs' dynastic run.
It'll get handled when it gets handled. Oh, baby. That, by the way, appreciate that drop. Didn't know you were going to play it, but that was in training camp. Patrick Mahomes' response to being told that a Kermit the Frog doll dressed as him had shown up in Raiders training camp and a rookie made the mistake of having fun with it.
Yada, yada, yada. The Chiefs won 15 regular season games this year, the most ever by a team going back to back and trying to three-peat, which is where I land to start this show, because we could talk about the Eagles and the Rams. We will. Lions having their greatest regular season ever welcoming in the upstart. Why not us commanders with Jayden Daniels, one of the most exciting young players we have seen in the NFL in quite some time. We will talk about that, too. Bills and Ravens. You got Von Miller on the show, for crying out loud, in hour three.
We'll talk about it. But there's really only one story in the NFL coming into the season is how will it get handled when it gets handled for the Kansas City Chiefs to try and become the first ever three-peat champions in the National Football League history. And all they did in the regular season was win 15 games matching the uniform number of their stellar. Hall of Fame.
Yes, Mount Rushmore quarterback. How will they do it? 15 wins and everybody's like, they're lucky.
When are they going to flip the switch? They're really not that great. 15 wins, whatever. And in that regard, the person who personifies that happens to be one of the greatest players in the history of the NFL, period, and certainly in his position, Travis Kelce. Who had, statistically, the worst year of his career. His 823 yards receiving. Other than his first year in the league when he only played one single game and had zero yards. That's his worst year. 862 in his first full year in the NFL. His 8.5 yards per reception. Only time in his career he hasn't had a double digit number in that regard. Three touchdowns? That's all he had? Three. I'm sure all the folks that took Kelce in the fantasy league world were like, what happened?
Guess what? It's the playoffs. And what does he do in the playoffs? Dominate. Yes, sir.
Correct. His career, 69.4 yards per game receiving in the regular season. Pop that up to 86.5 in the playoffs. 165 career receptions, that's the most ever. If he gets 343 yards receiving in these playoffs, that's a chunky number.
Certainly for somebody who has to play a maximum of three games. And four touchdowns in these playoffs, not that big of a number for him. He would pass Jerry Rice for the most all-time in those categories. In the history of the NFL playoffs, as the greatest ever in those stats, his reception's 165, already more than Jerry.
All he needs is one more 100-yard receiving game. He breaks the tie with Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice. Jerry's eating rice.
Jerry's eating rice. That's what Travis Kelce does in the playoffs. 13 straight games with at least seven yards receiving in the postseason for him. That's the longest streak in the history of the National Football League.
The next one is seven. And that person is currently reporting for CTESPN. Yeah, I think he's the founder, actually. Oh, is that right? My bad.
I didn't mean to denigrate. Get it right, Rich. And of course, he and Mahomes together have had quite the connection. 17 touchdowns in his career in the playoffs, which means two of the touchdown passes came courtesy of Alex Smith prior to Mahomes joining. And that's more than Brady and Gronk for the most all-time. Yada, yada, yada, Mahomes addressed what Kelce does once the rubber meets the playoff road.
You know, I think it's just the greats, man. They step up in the playoffs, and it's just higher intensity, and the best players and the best leaders step up and make the best plays. And he's done that, and so I expect the same from him going into this playoffs. And I think his mentality that he steps into the football field with at practice and on game day kind of resonates with the entire team and gets everybody to play their best football. And that's what it takes in order to win championships.
That's right. It's so matter of fact, right? It's just so matter of fact that it makes you think they're just not going to do it.
Or maybe they're asleep, or they're just not going to hit that switch. Okay. Because this is what's at stake. This is what's at stake. The three-peat stuff? Sure.
That's clearly, I would think, motivational. That's kind of big. I get it.
First ever. No, no, no. I'm not poo-pooing it.
I'm just also, I'm going one bigger. Because that would just be a feature. That would just be the lead resume item on saying the greatest dynasty ever in the history of the National Football League. The greatest to do it. And making Brockman's Brady Patriots the second best dynasty of the century. Wait, so you think a three-peat makes them the best dynasty? On the road to doing such, Brady won three of his first four Super Bowls. Mahomes has made four of his first six opportunities to make the Super Bowl, going three and one in them, and just like Brady in that three of winning his first four, back-to-back matched that. The Brady Patriots then made only two Super Bowls in their next nine. But they did make a ton of AFC Championship games in a row. And also then making four of their next five.
Now that's the differentiator. Later on down the road, will he make four of five that late in the run? Will Andy Reid even be there? Winning eight straight times in the divisional round to go to the AFC Championship game, the Brady Patriots made eight straight AFC title games.
That is a chunky number. Except when you think that if Mahomes wins against the Texans on Saturday, that'd be seven in a row for him. Out the gate.
Out the Texas Tech, sitting down for a year gate. Seven AFC title games in a row. And then one win shy of going five Super Bowl appearances in his first seven attempts. With a three-peat to boot. You're talking about greatest dynasty, like you're talking better than name them. Just name them.
Set up for it. Could you imagine when you look at these numbers for Mahomes? Eighty-nine regular season wins before the age of 29. That's 19 better than Brady.
Playoff wins before the age of 29. He's already three clear of Brady in that regard before even taking the field against the Texans. Four Super Bowl appearances before the age of 29. That's one better than Brady before even taking the field against the Texans. As many Super Bowl wins as Brady. One more Super Bowl MVP than Brady.
Two NFL MVPs already in his pocket before the age of 29. Brady had none. Could you imagine if Brady had not beaten Mahomes in that one Super Bowl that Mahomes has lost? Yeah, we don't have to.
Correct. That's why I'm saying every single time I hear from you about Chiefs may not do it, I'm thinking who the hell thought anybody would be in the area code of having a shot at the Brady Belichick era and shelving it as the best dynasty of the 21st century? This is what is at stake when Mahomes and the Chiefs and Andy Reid step on the arrowhead field on Saturday to kickoff divisional playoff weekend. It's almost like you're saying he's under the most pressure of this playoff.
I'm not saying that's any pressure at all. I'm saying that this is house money as far as I'm concerned for the Kansas City Chiefs. I like your attempt at flipping it, but that does, again, do you smell the fear coming from New England and the New England portion of the Rich Eisen show set?
Do you smell it? Do you smell what the Chiefs are cooking? Now, the winner of Bill's Ravens could go ahead and upset everything that I just said and hand Mahomes a rare loss in the AFC Championship game, let alone a rare home loss in the playoffs. But the Texans have to be first up and Mahomes is 6-0 in the divisional playoff round.
6-0. Guys, I know we're against this, Rich. I just wanted to throw this out for later in the show, Chris. You brought up dynasties. Who were the dynasties in the NFL? That's something I don't think we've ever talked about for later on. Well, here we go. You can give me an idea right here.
What makes up the dynasties? Here we go. Because these are the last, or here's a list of the only back-to-back champions in the history of the NFL and how far they went. You got it right there? I do here. Is this just your way of getting the Cowboys into this first segment? This is the NFL Network. No, not really. Yes, it is. This is the NFL Network.
Research is not missing. The first ever back-to-back champs, the Green Bay Packers, in attempting to go three in a row, missed the playoffs. The 72-73 Dolphins.
We all remember they were coming off of that perfect season. They made the divisional round and lost. The 74-75 Steel Curtain Steelers lost in the AFC Championship game.
The second time they tried it in 1980, they missed the playoffs. The next team were the 49ers. In 88-89, they lost in the NFC Championship game when Leonard Marshall essentially planted Joe Montana like a fern. 82-83 Cowboys lost in the same spot in Candlestick Park in a game that I was at, covering it for KRCR Television in Redding, California. I will never forget that game because the winner knew they were going to take Stan Humphreys apart in the Super Bowl. Your Cowboys, had they won that game, and they were close, they would have been the first ever 3P champ, and we'd be having a different conversation today. Our future coach held our star wide receiver. Everybody knows that.
That's true. I've seen Dion and Irv have arguments about that on live NFL Network television, and it's classic. The 97-98 Broncos missed the playoffs when Elway retired, and the last team to attempt it. Chris Brockman can tell you all about that divisional playoff round loss in Denver.
Yeah, Jim Bailey fumbled to the end zone. And then here we are today. So, I kind of just ran through some of your dynasties just by talking about how when you go back to back, you're a part of one of the great dynasties. To be the first to ever 3P, you are the greatest dynasty. And then in so doing, you could turn what we all believe is the greatest dynasty, the Brady Belichick era Patriots, because of how long it lasted. And how even in their nine years of not winning one, they made two Super Bowls and made a ton of straight AFC championship game appearances. And won three of their first four together, and then made four of the last five Super Bowls together.
That's pretty great. And the Chiefs have a chance to make that the second best of this century. That's what's at stake. Let's take a break. Speaking of the current iteration of the Patriots, let's try to go back to the future. Tom Curran apparently is under the weather, and we need him to get one of those recolas before zooming in. But he's still going to make his appointed round to tell us what happened to Jerrod Mayo, how did Mike Vrabel show up where he has shown back up again. Tommy C., with the latest there, I've got a power rankings list of the best Super Bowl possible matchups.
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It still happens later in life. This very morning, 13-year-old Cooper Eisen woke up, sat up, first words he said to me, Dad, I had a bad dream last night. Okay. I'm like, wow, what's up? He said his bad dream was he dreamt that the Patriots would lose Mike Vrabel's first game as head coach 45-7 to the Miami Dolphins. Gave me the final score and everything.
Interesting. And I'm like, did you wake up screaming? Like, ah. And his answer was, no, I just was really disappointed.
That was my conversation with my 13-year-old to start his day. Did you remind him the last time that really happened, we went on to win the Super Bowl? Well, I didn't bring up the Lori Molloy thing. It really wasn't against the Dolphins. I was against the Bills. It was a divisional game.
I mean, I could have gone that way, but I didn't feel like a history lesson was necessary there. Understood. But what if the Dolphins do show up as the opener for the Patriots when the schedule comes out in May? I think I'll chop my foot off.
I wouldn't go so radical, Chris. I'd be stunned. I don't think, what, that it would be the first game for the Patriots? That the Dolphins could... Well, 45 to 7.
Yeah, 45 on the road. He didn't tell me where the game was. I didn't ask. Oh, interesting. Well, weird stuff happens in Miami, so maybe down there. I don't know.
That's... 45 to 7. He had a fitful night of sleep. Interesting. How did Drake May look, at least? We could ask him these details.
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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. We've been wanting to talk with this man for a bit, but we didn't want to reach out until the Patriots did, in fact, come up with their next head coach, as they have announced on Monday. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show from NBC Sports Boston, New England Patriots insider Tom Kern. How you doing, Tom?
Hi, Rich. 45 to 7. That's what my son said. He had a nightmare last night. Holy crap. Die-hard Patriot fan Cooper Eisen said his nightmare was that the Patriots would lose Mike Vrabel's first game as Patriots coach 45 to 7 to the dolphins.
He even named the opponent. I think what's really cool about this is if this one comes in, he can actually be your pathway to retirement. You just take me over in the open. 45 to 7, that's easily dolphins and over.
What do you got? If only there wasn't an NFL human resources department that would frown on such attempts at enriching. You've got to find a guy.
We're just like Cooper opened one. Find a guy. Find a guy.
Find a guy. Oh, yeah. Use my 13-year-old son as a gambling beard. Great idea, Tom. Sounds great. Wake up, Cooper.
I love it. Let's just jump right into this here and start from the beginning. What went wrong with Gerard Mayo as the head coach of the Patriots, Tom?
I would start with bad roster. I would then leapfrog to the fact that that was not the timeline that the Patriots anticipated when they signed Bill to a two-year contract in last offseason, 2023 offseason, and then agreed to bring Gerard Mayo back as the successor in waiting. They wanted Bill Rich to break the record here. They wanted to have a nice final few years where Bill breaks the record, the team returns to prominence, Mac Jones is getting carried off the field on the shoulders of everyone, and things go blissfully. That did not happen as we know.
Everything was accelerated. So Gerard ends up in a place much earlier than expected without the ability to put together and really hone his vision and a staff to start with. So the Patriots were kind of picking scraps with coaches to a degree, and that's no disrespect to the coaches. But few of those guys would be individuals that other teams would say, man, we've got to get Alex Van Pelt. As good as he did this year in different realms, no one was looking for that.
So he was up against it. And then as a first-year head coach, I think his messaging could have been honed better at the podium, and he stepped in it too many times. So the team got worse as the season went on. So inexperience, bad roster, bad messaging. The Patriots are fortunate that they were able to land on somebody with some more experience, and now they have a quarterback in place for Mike Vrabel. So before we turn the page to Vrabel, though, the messaging from Mayo, what landed flat? Not just amongst the fan base, but in the owner's suite, Tom?
Sure. I think it was the number of rakes he stepped on. Like for instance, there was the occasion when they had that Saturday game, I'm blanking on the opponent. Chargers. Russ, thank you. They lose that game 45, 40 to seven, could have been 55 to nothing. But at the start of the game, there was miscommunication between Mayo and the analyst, Russ Tucker and you, right?
No, it was Chris Rose. Thank you. Sorry, buddy. It's all good, bro. Going on.
All good. So miscommunicating things like Ramondre Stevenson isn't going to start the game because of his fumbling issues, he ends up on the field. After he had told the media that that wouldn't happen, well, and this is not why Jarrah Mayo was let go. It's just an example of the things that were kind of going on. If you're going to tell the media, you're going to tell the local media and the radio crew that that's going on, and then Ramondre Stevenson's on the field. What's going on? How can how can those little things be mistakes?
The you said it, I didn't. When he was asked by our guy, Phil Perry, about why Drake May wasn't being run on some fourth and short plays. Was a bad message that had to be walked back. So it was that kind of messaging. He's a smart guy, a talented guy, a charismatic guy, but he was not prepared for the scrutiny he was going to face, unfortunately. So I don't think he expected the level of.
The level of angst. Well, I mean, what about the calling teams, the team soft? Was that was that a doubt?
That worked out right. They played well after that. But again, the phrasing of it. Was something that, you know, I talked to him later, like, yeah, I shouldn't have said they're soft. I should have said they played soft.
Yep. And again, it's. It's a big difference. It's a massive difference to go from where soft to we played soft and then to have to walk it back on Monday.
It just became difficult. And again, I consider him having done television with him for six years as a player. And then when he was out of the NFL in between that and coaching, I consider the guy a friend. But we do is as media members and you experience it all the time.
You have to be honest, because our job is to explain to people what we're seeing with objectivity, regardless of the relationships we build with people who are doing jobs that we cover. And he was just not ready for the level of intensity. Well, then then what caused the Kraft family to. Lose the patience required to maybe allow Gerard Mayo to learn on the job and, you know, last four games.
OK. The last four games you needed to, as the season went along, prove that a foundation had been built that you could stand steadily on and start to reach for the next year. And in those final four games, they came back from a buy. They have lost to the Indianapolis Colts, I believe, just before the by having given up a 19 play 80 yard drive that ended with Anthony Richardson throwing a touchdown pass and then running for a two point conversion. I was back breaking enough. But you had that final four game stretch with Arizona, the Chargers, the Bills twice.
So you could show what you had done and accomplished to to improve. They got blasted by Arizona. They played well against the Bills. They got blasted by the Chargers and the team was receding in terms of competency as it went.
So that, I think, was the final straw. And probably, Rich, so we can segue to the next guy. I would imagine the presence of Mike Vrabel was a was a specter that that loomed over the whole situation. How far back does that go, Tom? You know, I know that might be a third rail subject, but Mike, our colleague Tom, Tom Pelosero, every single time this subject matter comes up, does point out to the red jacket moment that Vrabel had as the head coach of the Titans on a bye week saying about how terrific it is in New England. And that did grease a skid or two for him to lose his job in Tennessee. So how far back does this go with New England and Vrabel to lead to Mike being the 16th head coach of the Patriots and the first since Art Shell to win a Super Bowl with the team and then come back and coach it?
Yeah, it probably goes back to 2000, Rich. The Patriots signed him as a free agent. He came over from Pittsburgh, where he was buried behind the likes of LaVon Kirkland and those awesome linebackers they had. And he came here and flourished and showed himself to be one of the most tough, intelligent Bill Belichick I remember in 2002 saying, you know, we look at all these we look at every play for every player. Mike didn't make one mental mistake the entire year.
And he just found he raised a family here. So all of those things were for Mike, I think immense draws to come back. Now, you look at this team and the way it's been since 2017, and we've talked about it at Infinitum on your show through those years and when he talked about the creeping dysfunction in the way the team has over the past two years gone, eight and 26.
And since starting 8-0 in 2019, their record is horrendous. It's not the same team. It's not the same level of unity. It's not the same all for one.
It's not the same, if it ever was, Patriot way. Mike, I think is swayed by believing it's still here or still dormant and he couldn't resurrect it. So I think it goes back to just the affinity that you have for the people who were here, the area, the fan base, because the roster itself is not a persuasive draw.
So let's talk about first steps here. What's Vrabel bringing to the equation? Does he have front office sway or is he just the HC and he handles the 53 on game day and the division of labor that the Crafts wanted to institute upon Belichick's departure is still in place?
Is that the way it's going to work? It's really ironic. It's really ironic, Rich. Remember, you certainly do from ESPN, 1997, the early days when Bill Parcells had gone to the Jets because he couldn't take the Crafts asking him to please collaborate with other people and listen to your scouting department.
Shop for the groceries, as famous statement as it can be. So Parcells leaves and the Crafts say, you know what, how about this? How about we not have one guy in charge of everything? Let's all these other people we're paying, let's let's get them to work together and maybe have somebody a little bit nicer here. Pete Carroll, you want to work here?
Yeah, you can be one point of the triangle. They did it for three years. The team went from a Super Bowl appearance to eight and eight and getting worse. They said, you know what?
That didn't work so good. Let's bring in one guy with one vision with a good group around them, including Scott Pioli, and the Patriots rose again with Bill. And as a result, by the end, Bill had collected so much power and sway that the craft said again, you know what, love this.
So now they've done it for one year. I think with Mike, he comes in very much the way Bill came in in 2000. Bill wasn't given free rein in 2000 completely. It was him, Scott Pioli. It was a tremendous staff around him with Romeo Cornell and Charlie Weiss. But there were a lot of smart people in the personnel department. Elliott Wolf right now is the GM.
I'm prattling on too long, but Elliott Wolf was the GM without title, and he was in charge of shopping for the groceries along with his staff. They did a horrendous job. They didn't do well in the draft. They didn't do well in free agency.
They miscalculated on what players could do. As Vrabel comes in, he's going to bring with him Ryan Cowden, who will soon agree, I believe, to a contract reported that he's coming here. I don't think he has a contract yet signed, but once that gets executed, Elliott Wolf and Ryan Cowden, I believe, will be the 1A, 1B, but they don't want to have fights. Who has a final say? I believe if it gets to one of those things, we have three guys staring at each other and you have to go and make a decision. Michael say, let's do this.
So that's where it will land. But again, all these collaborative front offices, whether it's McVeigh and Sneed, the ones that do it best, they never get to a point. Eric DaCosta and John Harbaugh, they probably never get to a point where it's like two guys standing there with their arms crossed saying, it's going to be my way. Who's going to break the tie?
Right. Because that's what seems like what it was over AJ Brown with John Robinson and Vrabel in Tennessee. And now both of those guys are gone and yada, yada, yada. He's now the new head coach of the New England Patriots. And is it any truth that he brings Josh McDaniels with him as the OC, Tom? I felt as if McDaniels would be the front runner along with Tommy Reese. Tommy Reese has stayed in Cleveland as the OC. So that will leave McDaniels, who is local here. He and his family live 20 minutes from the stadium still in this year off. I know that Josh has other opportunities that he's considering as this off season goes along.
And I'm sure that there's other organizations who would be interested in talking to him to be an OC for them. Because what he brings, while people maybe look at what he most recently did in Las Vegas, what he brings is a guy who, for instance, in 2018 morphed the Patriots offerings from what it was in 16 and 17 when it was so brilliant to turning it into a meat and potatoes running game. He wanted to get in 2020 to get seven wins post Brady out of Cam Newton when Cam really couldn't throw overhand anymore. He morphed it again and shepherded Mac Jones to a season in which he was basically the offensive rookie of the year the entire year until Jamar Chase tracked him down. So he is very adept at doing different kinds of offenses. Now he would have a blue chip guy, a top 3D pick in Drake May.
Not a bad roster around it. So you have to be able to have somebody who's experienced who can craft something. So Josh, to me, makes the most sense. We should find out in fairly short order whether or not he will officially be the guy. And you take a look at the timeline of things, Tom, and you see how when Mayo was fired, that 24 hours before, Mike Vrabel had a meeting that quote unquote went very, very well with the New York Jets, talking about becoming their head coach. As a matter of fact, first head coaching interview that Vrabel took in this round was with the Jets. There's two plus two equal four here where the craft saw Vrabel chatting with Woody Johnson. It went very, very well, and then all of a sudden Mayo gets fired and Vrabel gets hired.
Is there a through line here, Tom? I think the organization certainly was motivated. They were motivated by that. Are we going to lose out on... Mayo's struggling. We just got blasted again last week by the Chargers. Now we've won the game and we've dropped to fourth overall.
Do we want to continue with what we have and let Girard develop to an unknown level in 2025, or do we want to have someone who we trust? It was friggin' painful, Rich, for them to move on from Mayo. You could see it on Kraft's face. Very painful for him, which is no solace, I'm sure, to Girard, but you have to do what's good for your football team, and it is a business.
Feeling bad and feelings, I think, had to ride secondarily to what they needed to do. Mike obviously brings to the Patriots not the football stuff, but the messaging, the galvanizing, the attitude, the ability to understand and deal with the media in a particular way that would make him an ideal candidate. Yeah, I mean, that's... Yeah, the Jets... Geez, would I stop talking so much? Anyway, yes, the Jets interview certainly prompted me.
It's all good, man. I mean, really, if the Patriots needed anything, and obviously, Kraft don't want to be a family that one and done's a coach, if they really needed... They needed Joe Milton to throw two interceptions, not two touchdowns, Tom.
You know what I mean? Can you believe he threw a ball 61.76 miles an hour and Jordan loves- I believe that from him. He's talented. Joe Milton's good. He's talented.
I mean, God, that thing's fast. I know. Listen, Tom.
I appreciate the time. I know you're not feeling well. Are we done? No, yeah. I mean, we've just been chatting for 20 minutes.
Time flies when you're high on Nyquil. So it's all good, Tom. All right, listen. Don't take this idea, but I'm going to go back down and finish my coach quarterback tears around the NFL, all right, because I think now the Patriots go from very, very low- Yes. ... to much higher. Hey, listen. Vrabel and Drake May is a terrific next era to go into in New England, and every Patriots fan I know suggests- Where should I put them in relation?
In relation with Sean Payton and Bo Nix, should we be on the same tier or under them? I think I'm going to put them under them. Interesting. You're giving us ideas for later on in the month, Tom.
Month, yes. Not today. Again, I'm glad you're not terribly under the weather that you couldn't make this a disappointed round. Tom Curran, everybody. Give him a round of applause.
He took a rajesh and a step and repeat, and he did his appearance here on the Rich Eisen Show. Well done. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, buddy. Really appreciate it, buddy. Hey, guys.
Thank you. Everybody check out Tom Curran's Patriot Talk podcast and check him out at NBC Sports Boston. Our friend Tom Curran right there. Hey, this is Tom Curran.
Hey. Can't wait to see Tom on the corner in New Orleans. That was in Arizona, I think, when you saw him there, right?
We'll see him in New Orleans. Me and Brock would just stand there on the corner. And I thought it, but it came out of my mouth. I'm like, hey, Tom Curran. And he was like, what? Lots to discuss here on the Rich Eisen Show, and we shall do it.
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Learn more at AmericanExpress.com slash Amex Business. The Oscar-winning actress who played Mona Lisa Vito herself, Marisa Tomei, phoning into the Rich Eisen Show. Are you there, Marisa? Hey. How you doing? How you doing, Marisa? Good. How you doing? I'm fine. So you just get dropped into the middle of the biggest sports story of the year.
What's this been like for you, Marisa? I got a gig out of it. So basically, your phone blows up saying you have no, that guess what, Bill Belichick just dropped Mona Lisa Vito in a press conference. Yeah. I kind of had to catch up on what was going on and the whole Ball's Gate or the Blake Gate. By the way, that should be the name.
Ball's Gate is a great name on this whole thing. I'm on the phone. Kelsey and I texted about it. We thought it was pretty funny.
We both got a kick out of it. Joe Pesci texted you about this? Well, yeah, I texted him.
He texted me. You know, we sent requisite emojis. What Joe Pesci emojis? Is that my favorite? It was, you know, the cute ones.
The kids blowing the kiss. That might be the biggest breaking news of this whole thing is Joe Pesci emojis. So Marisa, seeing Bill Belichick play physics professor, can you, I guess, critique his performance as a physics professor? Was it believable in your estimation, Marisa? I thought it was pretty darn believable. I thought he underrated himself, didn't you? I thought he went above and beyond. I've never heard of a football coach dropping physics knowledge like that.
He would kick my ass in a physics test right now. I could tell you that. I thought he could have maybe, he could have maybe done it with the accent, though, like if there's activity in the ball relative to the rubbing process. Yes.
You know, he was talking about the football, right? Exactly. I love him. I love him. So let me ask you this final question, Marisa. Yeah. You know this character, Mona Lisa Vito, as well as you do, clearly, you want an Oscar for this performance.
You know, this character inside and out. Do you think Mona Lisa Vito could acquit Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, get them out of this mess the same way she did Vinny's cousin back in the day? That's a lot of pressure on Mona Lisa.
Yeah. Do you think she could do that? I think she'd want, she'd want to because, you know, who doesn't love him, but, um, hmm. I don't know, ultimately, maybe, you know, she's a New Yorker, so, uh, she's a jet fan. So Mona Lisa Vito would leave Belichick hanging, is that what you're saying?
I don't know. It depends how many other cases are in the queue, perhaps, but he was definitely, you know, dead on balls accurate, as she would say. The first ever guest in the history of this show at a Super Bowl was Marisa Tomei. That was our first Super Bowl we ever covered. And it was in the middle of deflate gate, or as she referred to it, balls gate. And that was when Belichick dropped Mona Lisa Vito in a press conference because he was asked about the science of it. I'm not like Mona Lisa Vito.
He dropped a My Cousin Vinny reference, and we were like, what the hell? And of course, just like everything else, Susie knows Marisa Tomei. She does.
Well, we had to meet her friends and things of that nature, so that's how we got connected. I think she should come back on the show. Susie? Well, her too, but Marisa, it's been a while, you know? Yes, it has been, as we're about to, I believe, cover our 11th Super Bowl in the history of this program.
It'd be a perfect place for her to pop back. So we've got that going on here. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, life insurance, you know you need it, but maybe you think you can't afford it, or it's too complicated, or you don't want to deal with medical exams.
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This is a new quarter zip sweater. Okay. So I got that going for me.
Thank you for that. Nice. Who are you thinking? Mike Daltufo doesn't like the Thin Mints in the back.
Nope. He started today saying he's got a theory. Well, you said a hot take.
It's a hot take. Adam brought the Thin Mints because he doesn't like them because he just wanted to give them to you guys. Like, you know, you bring stuff that you don't really want.
So the tagalongs probably are home. And I know he does. I know he actually likes them. Somebody just got in my ear. Oh, okay.
But what I'm saying is you don't bring the food you like. Yeah. So it's like... That's your hot take? You're like, I've got a hot take. Like, he didn't want to eat the Thin Mints.
So you know, Mike... Brockman's like... I took a picture of this. This is in the back.
Mike scrawled on top of the lone remaining unopened box. Where are the tagalongs? Yeah.
Now, what were you attempting to spell above tagalongs at first? That was... I forget what I did up there. That was the thing I ripped off.
When you were at trash or something? Yeah, I said these are crap. Wow.
So that's the word crap that you... I think that might have been... I forget. Yeah. I kind of moved the box.
Unnecessary. How many of these Thin Mints have you eaten personally? Oh, he's eaten a whole box. What's your percentage? What's your completion percentage? I would say... Oh, God. That I've probably had a sleeve and a half.
Have you had any of these? Yeah, like three. Three. There's a half a sleeve left in the back there. And a whole box.
And a whole box. I'm just saying. I mean, just... The tagalongs are the peanut butters?
Oh, yes. They're the peanut butter ones. They're the goat. I do like the tagalongs.
Yeah, the tagalongs are the goat. You freeze those in the freezer, keep them chilled. Mint is just not good in any... It's just not... I put up a poll question yesterday. Okay. Vergera?
Thin Mints, 45%, Samoas, 36%, tagalongs, 19%. Yeah. Oh, man. See, Mike, also... I might be the nut allergy voters chime in.
Yeah, you see that? Mike, I got to dispel that thing that you bring in things you don't like. I don't know if you know this, but those barbecue chips that I love that I get from Pennsylvania, I've been populating the studio with those. Yeah, he brings those in because he likes them. I like them. I'm not a barbecue chip guy. Have you tried these, though? Oh, no, I have not. These are amazing.
Should I try them? Oh, okay. Everyone in the studio with these middles worth, but I got to give them a shout out. They're not giving them to me. I'm paying for them. Best barbecue chip of all time. They really are good.
Maybe they'll send some to the studio. I remember them when I was a kid. Is that right? Yeah. They are good. Okay.
Terrific. Is he scrolling on the chips? No, he is. Where are the odds?
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