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Please follow me at Jim Jackson Show IG, also on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or wherever you download your podcasts. Welcome in. It's been a great week. We're starting to dig into the meat of the NBA season.
College basketball is off and, of course, holidays are coming up. And I'd like to start the show talking about, like, kind of things that have happened during the week. I love to keep things on the court, but it's the implications of that aspect of that conversation and where it led to. It was inferred. And again, I try to stay away from the it's actually this is how it went down. And this is why it went down because there's so many different dynamics to a locker room that people don't understand. So what's reported to what actually happened to the results of it.
Those are three totally different things. But I think you can find a silver lining in the truth within what was reported and what was reported that Tyrese Maxey kind of called out Joel Embiid about his tardiness and not being on time. But then there's other reports, too, that yes, that's true, but it's not like his friction between Tyrese Maxey and Joel Embiid. And I wanted to address the situation and talk about it from a little bit from Embiid's perspective. So I can give everybody an idea and understanding of my thinking, just being on time. Being in the league and being around it for 20 plus years. We always talk about leadership and in leadership is a dynamic word in leadership and the leadership styles of people differ depending on background, how they got, how they view the current situations, the structure in which they're in, how they've been taught from a leadership perspective. And the factors are always like your best player should be your best leader. And I've learned and I think a lot of people learn, too, in sports, that's not always the case.
Your best leader sometimes is someone that has a different perspective, that has a different voice, and your best player may lead by an example that's different than the vocal part. I think that's what we got into with Joel Embiid. And I want to backtrack just a little bit to give you what I'm talking about. You're talking about a young man that came from Cameroon, that came to United States at the age of 16, 17 years old, was a project at the time, went to Mount Verde Academy, then he ended up transferring to a school in Florida, I think it was, in high school. Became a top prospect, a five-star recruit, ended up going to Kansas, played at Kansas, but then had injuries. So he couldn't really compete in the Big 12 tournament that year that he was getting drafted, but then also the NCAA tournament that year, I think it was 2014.
Then got to Philly and had the injuries. And finally, when he was able to get on the court, he got a breath and chance to see how dynamic this young man could be. And this is what I really want to dig into, is certain leadership qualities that are entrenched in an individual, they just know how to lead. Some are actually acquired over the course of somebody's lifetime through trial, tribulations, through ups and downs, wins and losses, heartbreak, whatever it may be, to kind of be that leader.
And so it's not just one quality, it's not just one way. And in the NBA in particular, I look at Embiid's situation and say, when has Embiid ever been the guy to lead a team, to carry a team on his back coming up? And I think that's very important because that builds the scars, that builds the mindset, that helps you understand what it takes to make you a great leader. Because if you have to carry a team at a young age, you know what comes with that, how to handle the press, how to handle the locker room, how to deal with coaches, how to deal with players, how to speak with each individual differently, how to handle yourself through the good times and bad times, and how to display that and communicate with that.
If you don't go through it, then it's hard to really navigate your way once you get to the spotlight, which is the NBA. So at Kansas, he wasn't really the leader. He didn't carry the Kansas Jayhawks.
He didn't play in the tournament. When he got to Philly, he was out because of the injuries. And when he finally came back, because of his enormous talent, all this got thrust upon this young man who was still going through the maturity stage of one, just getting back on the court, but two, being the best basketball player he could be, and then three, being the face of the franchise, meaning that now you were the go-to, the in-between between the players, the media, the NBA, international, whatever it may be, you were the guy. And that's a lot of responsibility. And to me, Joel Embiid never understood, and that's okay, what being a leader really is because he didn't have to carry a team. And I say that, look at the Steph Curry. He leads in a different way. He leads more by example.
He's probably not the most vocal player because Draymond Green is, but because he had to carry Davidson on his back when he was in college. He understood what that came with, with being the face. He understood that he had to answer the questions on games and on days when he didn't play well. It wasn't always when things were great that now you could be in front of the camera and everything was a-okay and you didn't have even answer the question. You've got to answer those questions when things are not going well.
You've got to be mature enough to understand how to navigate those waters, but only when you go through it consistently do you build up those scars and you build up the repetition in order to go through that. And to me, Joel Embiid never has been able to do that. And that's not a bad thing. So early in his career, when he was kind of immature on some of the things that he was doing, whether that was through social media, how he responded through different press conferences before or after a game. A lot of that was his still growth as a, not only a basketball player, but just a man growing into that. And then the added responsibility of carrying the burden of growing the Philadelphia 76ers. So when I look at leadership and I look at what's happening in Philly, and you've got to put some of the blame on the organization, too, because at a young age, they kind of gave him everything, the keys to the car. So at that time, you were able to develop some bad habits on decision making. Okay?
And if you don't correct those decisions or have somebody there to help correct those, those are going to manifest and grow into something else. And why I say that is because we're looking at Joel Embiid to be the ultimate leader, but maybe that's not his calling card. And that's okay. Just because he's the best player. You can lead in different ways. There's always a comparison between Nikola Jokic and Joel Embiid.
Who's the best? I don't think it's a difference. They're both great at what they do.
They lead different. Nikola Jokic leads a little bit different. His self-accountability has been there in a couple of ways. This year, when he started off bad, not shooting, he called out his team and himself saying that they need to do better, shoot better, get better. But also, let's go back to COVID. Right during COVID, before the bubble, he made it a goal of his, one, to drop the weight because he understood that in order for him to be the best player that he could be and also help the different Nuggets, he needed to lose weight.
And not only did he lose weight, he kept the weight off. That's a form of leadership. Okay? So three years later, you have three MVPs. You have, I think, a finals MVP.
You have a world championship. All of these accolades because of that one decision to say, you know, I got to be better. And he led by example and he's continued to do that by keeping the weight off. To me, Joel Embiid hasn't made that dedication. He hasn't made that commitment. The reason why he continues to get injuries or the injuries manifest itself, because I don't think he's dedicated himself in the offseason. And it's just me being a basketball player and watching from the outside and watching his body of work because his talent is unquestioned. I don't think he's been in the best shape.
I don't think he's dedicated himself to diet, to offseason workouts, to drop into 20, 30, 40 pounds to alleviate the pressure on his lower extremities, to take the top heavy weight off, to relieve the pressure on his legs. And I say all of this because we look at this young man and from all accounts that I do know with people, he's an outstanding young man, wants to do the right thing. But this whole thing in Philly that's manifesting itself was over time. It was a ticking time bomb until something happened. Now, this is not the end of the world. It's the beginning of the season.
But let's be honest. This is a team that we thought and I thought at the beginning of the year, based on the roster move that could compete with Boston. And we still got a long way to go and not saying that they're out of the mix. But it's not a great jumping off point, starting point.
Or maybe it is. Maybe this had to be addressed at the beginning of the season in order for them to salvage what they really need to get done. Because as bad as it seems, they're probably only three or four games because of the East out of being in that sixth spot or wherever they need to be. And that's the beauty about being in the East.
But I did want to take the time to kind of express and talk about the challenges you have when you place a heavy burden on a young man or young woman. Because of their talent, but their maturity at the time and their lack of experience doesn't allow them to be the leader that we think they should be. And maybe their best role is not being the voice, but being the talented part and a supporting role to the voice of the person that has a stronger characteristic to be a leader. And there's nothing wrong with that because Steph is the face of the franchise with Golden State.
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I'm glad you're here. You know, it's interesting, too, because, you know, we hang out, we smoke, we have great times, great conversations. Whether it's sports, whether it's music, whether it's fatherhood, travel, relationships, we do all this kind of stuff.
So when I started the show, I was always talking about like doing things a little bit differently. Yes. Not just sports. I know you're a big sports fan. Yes.
Of course, with the Knicks and everything like that. But you in daddy mode today. I'm in dad mode. PTA meetings.
It's great, though. You know, obviously that's I mean, we talk sports and everything, but fatherhood is such a great part of our friendship because we talk about our kids. So when we when I agreed to do this, I forgot today was PTA meetings.
So, you know, I was able to run and do both. And us being a dad is like the best part of my life. But when you go to PTA meetings, do they know it's Derek or do they know it's D-Nice? Well, when they start talking about how we need to have some fundraisers, I think they know it's D-Nice.
They always want to dig it. But how does your how does your daughter how does she handle a lot of that to from success from her father when you're around? I think for her, it's it doesn't matter because she sees the other parents and she's like, oh, that's John Legend. Oh, because of the school.
Because of the school. She'll see, you know, so I think with me, she knows that I do well. You know, obviously she's been to the shows, but I'm just dad, you know. And, you know, but it's great, though, because all of these kids, man, you know, we've been blessed enough to live out here in California. I'm talking all of us that live here in the sunshine. And, you know, you meet good people and good families. Not that good families aren't everywhere, but I've just been fortunate enough to be around some good families while while living here. And it's been very inspirational and it keeps my daughter going and keeps their mind going and new friendships.
And it's just a blessing. Well, it's a delicate balance, too, between the career which exploded for you, especially post-Covid to still being father. Yes. How do you navigate those waters time wise? Because that's the most important part, because you're always you're in and out more than me.
Yeah. But how do you how do you manage and negotiate the time that you have to go make a living, but then the quality time with your daughter? So with with that been extremely blessed to have good family around, you know, you know, even though her mom and I are together, we we chose to live, you know, not too far from each other.
That way, our child will have like an opportunity to spend a lot of time with mom and spend a lot of time with dad. Like so we we kind of split that responsibility, which has been great. Luckily for me, a lot of my gigs on the weekends, you know, you know, occasionally they'll be during the week if I'm doing extremely like private event.
But for the most part, I get to be home, be around my daughter three to four days a week. And, you know, what what I've learned from this this this journey of like this part of my journey doesn't belong to me. You know, and I tell people that it's like, look, I didn't I didn't put out a hit record. I didn't have a hit movie. You know, I don't have a hit television show. This this this phase of my career happened because of community and being there for for people, you know, and it's it's been extremely important to me on this part of my journey to make sure that I maintain that.
And when I say about people, it was also about my family as well. You know, so I find the balance between doing the right gigs, not doing every gig, but doing the right gigs, and then I get right back on the plane and come back home. So, example, if I have a show in New York City. I will make sure I leave the morning of which is very dangerous because anything can happen.
Right. I don't I don't like traveling on game days if I don't have to. Oh, man, I will leave the morning of six a.m. I'll get there, land my show, you know, land at three o'clock, get time, you know, get time to get to the hotel, freshen up, play a set for two hours from, you know, eight until 10. Then I'm back on a six a.m. and in time to have dinner with my family back at home. So that's how I play it. And that is important to me.
A lot of clients understand that I will I will I don't walk away from every game, but I will walk away from something that where I can't have that time with my family. That's a different level of maturity, too, because you have an older daughter. OK, so with me, my oldest son is thirty one. I'm a much different father, patient wise and everything else.
My goals in my six year old. But you have a special connection, too, because not only she's older, she she learns, but she's an attorney and she works with you. Yes, she was with me. So how was that dynamic with your older daughter?
So with my older daughter, this, you know, is a great question. With my older daughter, you know, obviously I was in hip hop during, you know, I won't say during his infancy, but during the early days, the golden what they consider the golden era. And we didn't do financially what most artists are doing now. So what I made back then didn't I wasn't able to sustain that kind of like that kind of success or even that that lifestyle. So with my oldest daughter, I had already lost everything, you know, so I had nothing but time at home trying to figure out life and, you know, taking her to school. I started making money again and being successful when she was roughly around four or five years old. I started like a creative services agency. So I was able to then like reset, slowly make money to pay for education, you know, to pay for undergrad, send it to law school.
And like, you know, that that journey has been great because without like without the success of my friends and my family, you know, I wouldn't have known to even go out into to do these things that I ended up doing to even believe in myself. Because, you know, when when this stops, people stop clapping. You've got to figure out what's next in life. And because the clapping stopped when I was so young, I was like twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty nine.
You know, actually, no, I take that back. The clapping started up again when I was twenty nine. The clapping stopped when I was around twenty two, twenty three. So from sixteen, sixteen, twenty three, twenty three until my second album came out in ninety one.
By the time that run of the second album, which is usually a year, was over, the phone stopped ringing. The money started, you know, started losing money. There's no I had no residual income coming in.
Nothing. Plus, we didn't make a lot of money back then, you know, and by by 90, I say by ninety four, I was pretty much just broke. And it took me about five years to find myself again. And I found myself at a good time when I was able to have that relationship with my daughter. I was able to send her to college.
You know, I was able to do all these things on this journey. And now that she's an attorney, when she graduated, she you know, she did work at another law firm. And I, I just felt like.
Look. You know, I could have still I mean, I do work with my original attorney, but because I was doing so many gigs from the White House and Oscars and Super Bowl, I felt like this would be a great time to give my my daughter an opportunity to see what it's like with what I'm doing. And then she just ran with and we've been working together now for nearly three years. You told me the story, too. We were at the spot smoking a cigar where it was a contract negotiation coming in.
Yes. And you wanted her you told her kind of what you needed, what you wanted, but you wanted her to actually go through the process of closing that deal. Yes, it was important, you know, you know, an offer came through. And by the way, if anyone offers me anything, I feel nothing but gratitude because you don't need my services. You like me, you love what I do, but you can go to someone else.
So no offer to me is ever like disrespect. But with this one particular client, like I knew what my my self-worth was, you know, and it was like, all right. You know, when the offer came in, she was happy and she was just like, I just came through that. Like, I was like, all right, cool. But go back and tell them this is this is what I require.
Are you sure? I was like, yeah, I know what my worth is. I know what my value is. And like, you also got to be mindful that, you know, that person is booking you maybe somewhere else one day. And then they'll always think that, you know, it's just business, just business.
That's it. And she went back and she called me back the next day. She was like, everything you asked for, they gave you. And I was really happy that to show her that lesson about knowing your worth, you know, as talent, also knowing your worth as as an attorney representing your client. You know, and it's it's been a great journey to to to just ride this with her. Well, speaking of journey, too, I don't think people realize, too, how old and what you did at the age 16. So you got with BDP. Yeah.
Sixteen. You wrote Self-Destruction. Well, you produced it at that time. And but you are a part of you talk about the golden age of hip hop. And, you know, we used to South Bronx and used to rock to that all the time.
But when you look back at that time period and if you've grown so much over the years. What are the lessons or what really stand out that helped you manage and negotiate the new stardom that came along with club quarantine post covid? So young stardom was all based on records. It was all based on I was a part of a crew.
Caris won one of the greatest MCs. He was able to write these records that, you know, South Bronx and my philosophy and Jack of Spades. But I was this young kid on the other side that was doing a lot of the beats.
You know, I would find old records that we we sampled, you know, in bringing the Chris or our program to myself. You know, that journey that journey of like being when you when you're a part of a group with with one of the most prolific MCs, you got to know that you're a role player. So I was a role player in BDP. You know, I wasn't number one guy. I had to play my part and my part was coming up with these ideas for certain tracks.
Cool. And I was also the deejay after Scott Rock passed away. So I was a deejay, a deejay for the group. I knew my role.
My role was great. And, you know, I produced self destruction. So nearly a million copies of that. You know, the BDP albums that I worked on from by all means necessary to the ghetto music, the blueprint to edutainment. All three of those albums, you know, I did multiple songs on all of those albums.
They were all gold, went gold, which is half a million copies. And we toured, did all those things. And then I decided that I wanted to do my own solo career as well. You know, when I was like 19 years old, put out my first album, did extremely well. Nice. Call me D-Nice. Toured with I did 70 city tour with Ice Cube and Too Short, which was interesting because a lot of times you didn't see that many like East Coast, West Coast kind of like, you know, tours going together.
But I was like mad young. And those tours were great because it was like, you know, I was out with Cube and it's a great time. How would you get connected with being with BDP and everything on the East Coast of New York? It would be like you would be with a tour with guys from the East Coast or groups from the East Coast. The West Coast. I mean, no, no. From the East Coast, just because of where you were with BDP.
Oh, yes. So how did you get with Cuban on that tour? Man, this was all Cube's idea. You know, this was literally all Cube. It was my first tour ever, like first tour, like solo being on a solo tour without without KRS. And it was it was fun.
You know, 70 cities with people actually. I mean, obviously, most of the people were coming to see Ice Cube. Let's be very clear.
Right. But I had my show and I had my set and I was able to grow. And I think from because of that, when you talk about where I am now, you know, fast forward. Obviously, I don't rap these days. And most of what I do is all DJ. But from what I learned from from them and being accepted by not just, you know, look, I had I got the keys to the city in New Orleans and, you know, the nice day in Houston. Like they were playing all of my records. It wasn't just based on BDP and and touring with Cube showed me that, you know, that there's a whole world outside of New York City.
And when you learn to embrace them, they will never forget it. You know, and that's how I live my life as a DJ. You know, I don't go into someone's city thinking, oh, I'm just going to play Mobb Deep and every New York hip hop record and Jay-Z. Like, no, I go into each city that I'm in and I know what their music is. And I have a love and respect for their culture.
I do sprinkle in my New York flavor, sprinkle that in. But I give people what they want. Now, you fast forward to club quarantine.
That same thing applies. You know, when I stood in front of that camera for nearly two years, I poured in. I poured so much of myself into that. I gave you everything I could in terms of music. I love music. You and I talk about music. We smoke cigars. We talk music. We're old school. You put me on to the Marvin Gaye album I didn't even know existed. You know what I mean? And I'm like, we talk music. So to be able to share my love of music for people throughout these decades has been, man, you talk about having like something that means so much to you. You know, like I feel grateful that people accept me. Welcome to AutoZone. What are you working on today? My check engine lights on.
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Shopify dot com slash Westwood one. You know, it's interesting because if you tap into kind of your journey, everybody has a journey. Yes. We learned it's the ups and downs and being able to accept what comes with it, the highs, the lows, everything in between. But it seems like it brought you to the night we were together at State Social before they closed down L.A. The idea of Club Quarantine, you had an idea concept, but you didn't know where it was going. And I tell people all the time that the reason why one of the reasons, big reason why Club Quarantine was so successful because you didn't do it for the likes. You didn't do it for the money.
You didn't do it for the fame. What you wanted was people to have a release for a few hours a day or a few minutes a day to enjoy music. Yep. That process, everybody grew and loved and D-Nice, you saved me. But how do you grow through that process during that time? So the growth happened on a professional side and personally.
So on the professional side as D-Nice. Yeah, it felt good to be able to. Remember those days of, you know, promoters, which, you know, I have a love and appreciation for anyone that hired me in the past and anyone who hires me now, but there was still limitations put on you. There were some promoters that didn't want to hear reggae. There were some promoters that hated old school because they were 25, but they were putting on putting on these shows.
And but what Club Quarantine did for me was to show people that. Man, it didn't matter who you were, how old you were. It was about the music that was being played and that every young person loves old school and every older person still wants to feel young. And they still want to hear sexy red drink like it didn't matter. It was about what felt good and what felt good at the time, you know, and I was able to do that every single day to where now people don't look at me as old school.
Not to say that, you know, age doesn't matter, but no one looks at me as old school because they know that I play everything. And it's about D-Nice brings a feeling. I'm not just bringing an old school feeling. I just bring a good feeling via music on the personal side. It made me realize the importance of my family, of my friends.
I get emotional when I think about those moments of of sitting at home during a pandemic. When I moved to L.A., I moved to L.A. to hang out with our group of friends and stay social. You know, I was just looking for a little bit of change, like, you know, one of my you know, I was a lifelong New Yorker. Needed a little bit of change and would fly out to L.A. every other weekend.
Stay at the London hotel, go over to stay social, watch games with you guys and then leave. I decided that I wanted to live in L.A. The best move ever that I made because it none of this happens for me. If I was with my family, I would have been quarantined with my family. I probably would have been in a relationship. My partner would have been complaining.
You're doing it all night. My kids would have been running. My daughter would have been running in the room. You know, so it had to happen that it had to happen that way because I was isolated. I was by myself. So the music that I played, I played because I still wanted to feel connected to my friends and the people that I was missing. So that changed my whole life. And it made me realize the importance of of the people that I know and that I love. And this is not about, you know, people that I met after CQ.
There's a different level of respect that I have for them, because when people tell you that they, you know, you save their life, I listen to them. And I understand what that means because I was there by myself as well. But I just got caught up in music when people were sitting there during that time.
There were people in terrible relationships that used the music to escape. There are kids at home with their parents who most times people, you know, you only saw your kids for a few hours a day. Wake up six in the morning, kids off to school at seven thirty, see them after school for dinner, go to bed, repeat. Now you're stuck at home 24 hours a day with people that you know and love.
But you don't really recognize these people like that. Yeah, because that's what our routine was, you know. And then the music was an escape for them.
The music was also an escape for me, too. You know, and I'm just grateful that through it all, I learned to love my friends. I don't I don't leave anywhere. We're hanging out together. I don't leave without dapping you up saying, yo, I love you, man.
No doubt. I don't leave like that, like ever. And that wasn't always me. I got people up.
All right, cool. Good to see you, man. Now, because of what happened, I realized, man, we got to you got to make sure that the people that you know knows exactly how you feel for them. You know, what's special about that, too, is that and I talk about the humility part of it because it goes from it seems like overnight, but it wasn't. It was a building process with you and your success. And we live different lives, like three or four different lives, different phases of our life. And you're in this phase now where all of those experiences have now come together and placed you. Think about it. We were talking about one day and I knew this. But it hit me. How many presidents you play for?
How many? Man, I played for I just did Jimmy Carter's 100th birthday. I did Barack's inaugural ball and I played a lot of, you know, advance for the Obama family.
Man, Bill Clinton, I rock for his foundation. Wait, hold on. Oh, oh, I'm talking about President Biden, President Biden. Yeah, man.
I mean, I went out on the road with with President Biden, with Warnock. Oh, do you hear what you're saying? I know that.
No, no, no, no. Seriously, it is crazy. You're talking about.
The last four press you tell about in here, you're not talking about Trump, but just and you're saying it like, yeah, I play for him, but. The initial part, bro, I mean, from the Bronx, everything that's going on, you're playing at the White House, you're playing at this stuff. Does it get overwhelming?
No, no, it doesn't get overwhelming. And in the beginning, I'll be honest with you, in the very beginning, it was just exciting when I did when I rock for Bill Clinton and his foundation. It was like, wow, you know, it's Bill Clinton, you know, like, you know, and I have so many pictures with him. The Barack one for President Obama. That was that was exciting because it was it was two parts of it. The first inauguration, I deejayed the BT ball.
So that wasn't like an official official BT ball. It was me, Wyclef Jean and Colin Powell, you know, and I did that. But in my mind, I was like, man, I want to be at the White House. And man, the funny part about that, bro, it was like I finally got a call to play at the White House. I did the second inauguration.
Let me let me go back. I did the second inauguration. I did at the White House.
Yeah. Well, this one was the inaugural ball. But I played I played at the White House once. But it was when Barack was leaving office.
BT created this party called Love and Happiness, and it was the roots. And it was like all these people like Janelle Monae coming, blah, blah, blah. Like and I wasn't scheduled to be there.
And it was only because Questlove. He was going to be deejaying at the vote, but he was going to be performing and he didn't also he didn't want to deejay that long. So they reached out to me because I was already cleared, you know, Secret Service, blah, blah, blah. Like because I'd already done, you know, presidential events. And I was like, all right, cool. We go to the party. I had to pull out of a party.
This is in D.C. Potter party with the White House. And man, I was it was sexy, bro. Like I got Michael Jackson going and I got Donna. I'm keeping it sexy. JB, blah, blah, blah.
And Naomi Campbell came over to me, Naomi and my boy Jaha. And they were like, you're not being yourself. They always said, this is music. This is easy to play. You're not being you.
Right. I was like, are we talking about she was like, you're not playing the way you always play. Play the way you played last week at Dave's house at Dave Chappelle's house. And I was like, I was mad at her. I was like, you can't tell me how to deejay.
Watch this. And I cut off. I remember what I was playing. I was playing Michael Jackson rock with you. Everybody dancing over when the East Wing in the East Room, I threw on I echoed it out and I never slam records. I echoed it out in in slamming a record means to go from one tempo to a totally different tempo without mixing those records. So I echoed that song out and I talked to the mic and then I threw on these horns.
Dananana. It was Annie up from MOP. Yo, the whole place went crazy.
And I was like, oh my gosh, she's right. You know, everything changed from that point on. I went from that in the shook ones. I'm playing shook ones on the wall. I'm looking at Martha Washington on the wall. The whole room was crazy.
Everything I rock swag surfing in the White House. I owe Greta that gratitude to Naomi for just calling me out. But she she she knew she knew what it was.
She knows she knows you and understands the flavor and what you do. And but you adjusted. I adjusted. Listen, there's not enough time in the day. I mean, D-Nice, we sat for a long time.
My guy got a lot of content. But guess what? Because there is a holiday next week. We got a special treat for you.
Part two of D-Nice and our sit down conversation. I mean, we had a lot to cover, but man, it was just tune in. We know next week is going to be special with the holiday season. But part two coming next week.
Right now, it's at that time of the show where we do things off the court. I want to shift it in a different direction here because I love watching miniseries. I really don't watch TV as much like just linear TV is more miniseries.
And I've been waiting for this show to really start and come across. And that's cross based on a novel. I mean, a suspense drama novel.
Of course, it has to do with law enforcement. But Alex Cross is the main character. Aldous Hodges plays the role off the hook.
I mean, he's a psychological mastermind who is a detective that has to figure out how these crimes are being solved. And it's on Prime. And I'm a huge on the drama and suspense.
Man, I stay up all night sometimes to to my detriment. But to be able to watch that and watch shows like that, you know, my partners and I, we always flip flop and talk about what's going on, what shows we watching and stuff like that. So if you got some shows that are out that I need to check out, please send them to me because I'm on Dune. I'm on King of Tulsa.
I mean, Tulsa King. Also, like I said, Cross. What else? Man, it's so many different. I watch so many era shows like Vikings. I just do all of that stuff.
I'm intrigued by all of it. But Cross was my latest one. I think I got through the series and like three nights stand up late watching my man Aldous Hodges. He came a long way from playing a lot of different roles straight out of Compton when he played MC Red. But to watch his growth and then watch what he's done in this show and can kind of be like the lead character, the main character and watch how he commanded the audience in the scene sets. I mean, great job with that.
But I had to shout that out because that's off the court. That's one of my passions to passions, my things that I do a lot of, which is either on the road or after a game, come home, decompress, have a little something, maybe then have a cigar and sit and watch these shows, man. And sometimes it's to my detriment because I'm up all night like the next one, the next one. But check it out.
Cross, if you get a chance on Amazon Prime. And once again, keep in mind next week is the holiday is Thanksgiving will be off, but we'll have part two of the Jim Jackson show with my guy D-Nice. Take care.
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