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What you need to do is go to koloff.net, just simply koloff.net and put in a request. And we'll schedule a time where I call you, or if you're close enough, we'll get you in studio. Like my guest. Today in studio, Joel Johnson, welcome to Q ⁇ A with Koloff. Hey, it's great to be here.
We have recorded other shows prior to this, and it's been a blast. If you're listening to this and you haven't listened to those other ones, make sure you go check them out. We had so much fun. We do. You'll gather real quick that this man is a man full of energy, but also full of education.
And him and his wife, Casey, are doing some absolutely amazing things. There's a lot we talked about. about on those other shows, including some backstory of his growing up years, even touched on a little of his wrestling aficionado, what he knew about professional wrestling. There's a lot I didn't know about, and I should say Dr. Joel Olstein.
I didn't even know he was a Dr. Joel Olstein. No, not Joel Olste. This is my Bible. I can do what it says.
I don't know where that came from. That was a Freudian slip right there. Dr. Joel Johnson. There we got it.
All right. Hopefully, not too much of a Freudian slip, but just a Freudian slip.
So, Joel, we talked a lot about family, about how you and Casey met, and where I want to touch on here on this show is in addition to working with marriage and married couples, working in the mental health arena, because your background, for those who don't know, if you missed the other shows, Harvard. educated Liberty University educated. Texas AM educated some pretty prestigious schools there that you have been educated through over the years. Yeah, well, I'm so thankful for the knowledge, and I'm so grateful that I can help individuals. You know, we talked about coming up from an abusive background for myself and the path of me to learn healing, even today.
I'm still wanting to do my work and grow more and more whole, right? More and more wholehearted.
So, I, yeah, I want to help marriages. I grew up in an abusive marriage as a child. I experienced, you know, my dad leaving, being fatherless.
So, you know, our mother, yes, our mess begins our ministry and our message, right? Like, right now, if you're looking at your life and it's like, it's a mess, don't look at it as I'm a loser, I'm done, you know, I'm just gonna give up. Check out. No, no, your mess that you're going through, your difficulty right now. Is the thing that will be your message.
It will be the thing that you're able to minister to others through.
So don't give up. Don't lose hope. This is your prime time right now. You're not too old. You're not too dumb.
You're not too educated. You're not too young. You're not whatever it is. God can take anyone and do incredible things. Out of your mess.
And he actually loves to do that. It's like a Romans 8:28, right? Where he can take what the enemy meant for wicked or for evil and turn it into good, right? And there's a lot there that we could unpack, but oftentimes we wonder, you know, why do I have to go through this? What's the reason for this?
And what I've learned, Joe, over the years is for myself personally is I've kind of stopped asking why and just asking what.
Okay, Lord, obviously, you know, there's a purpose and an intent and a reason for me going through this.
So I don't need to know why, but teach me what I need to learn from it because I don't want to have to repeat this lesson. Let me learn this lesson first time through, right? Yeah. And that's been very helpful for me.
Well, in addition to so the marriage, of course, we talk a lot about that on the other shows. The mental health piece. Yeah, the resilience piece. The resilience piece, we talk about that a lot on the other shows. But one area we didn't really touch on or talk much about, you also work with, there's a business piece to this where you work with businesses and churches.
Yeah. Yeah. Take a moment and tell us about that.
Well, we all have sticking points whether in an organization, whether that's for-profit or non-profit. We all have people who work in this organization. And so learning how to psychologically get an edge in your business, but also interpersonally.
So we are seeing teams that were siloed, maybe teams that were dysfunctional, teams that were good, but they just didn't know how to gel together. And when you gel a team together, what happens is they become high performance and it moves into multiplication, not just addition when you're adding a new staff member on.
So we take teams that are good and we help them become great and high performing teams.
So every boss that I talk to that brings us in, they talk 100% plus results on their business and production.
So we're not just seeing like, oh, that's a good psychological thing, but we're seeing 100% production increase because teams that are good become high-performing teams. That's good. I know that's what you... I'm looking at high-performance team training and on-site training. Yes, our favorite way to go about it is to spend one day with your team.
We also do a lot of teams do like a retreat. And we, as in you and Casey. Yeah, sometimes me, sometimes Casey.
Okay, okay.
Sometimes both.
Okay. Yeah, so it just depends. We're very versatile. And so if you...
So one day on site, one day with the staff or team.
Okay. We often do executive teams.
So kind of that higher level, really where that can trickle down to the rest of the teams. That's kind of our sweet spot. But we also do staffs because some teams are, you know, below 10, you know, so we will work with that whole team, even if they're not executive. And it's powerful. People understand each other.
They know where they're coming from. They learn how each other are wired and how to approach each other because we all have different values. We all have, we see the world differently. And when I say value is, you know, we value certain things. Maybe that's deep communication with another person.
Maybe we value, make it short and simple and let's get it to work. You know, those kind of things that we express and we want, or maybe it's fun. All of those things that those unique dynamics that come to a team.
So we help each of them know how to communicate with each other. Just thinking about that. And we actually have a graph and a sheet that says: here are the questions, how you should ask these things, so that you can learn your team. And so you take something that would take 20 years of a relationship, and you can do that in one afternoon.
Well, you know, it's interesting. I just finished reading a book called Amplify Your Influence. Amplify your influence. And we were talking about business: how the upper echelon, the management or the leadership, or the executive. Level, make all kinds of decisions.
Maybe, you know, 20, 30, 40 of them gather, and maybe they got a couple hundred, 300, 500, 1,000 employees or whatever. And it was saying, but how do you communicate it to the other 500 or thousand? And their response was, yo, well, in the hallway. In other words, they really don't. Like, they don't include them in.
No, no, no, no. You're saying what? No, that is amazing. That's brilliant.
Okay. So using Myers-Briggs, right? Myers-Briggs is a psychological tool. It's based in psychology. Carl Jung and then Myers-Briggs, that team of ladies, put this thing together.
And so what you want to do is like if you have a project, there's four stages of that project. We'll teach you those four stages. And you want to know who you want in the dreaming room. Based on their psychology, who you want in the poking holes so that it actually operates the execution. And then, this is what's so brilliant: who do you want to?
Communicate that to the rest of the team. And you want an expert, and I'll just tell you the Myers-Briggs letter for that one. Here's a freebie for you. You want an ESFJ. to be able to come out and know because they're masters of people and they will be able to speak and it will land on the employees in a very acceptable way where maybe if your CEO or your president or somebody else needs to make the big vision announcement, but if you want it to land appropriately, that CEO then pulls in this ESFJ to say, hey, how would you craft this?
How would you formulate this?
So that's very, very empowering. That's pretty amazing.
So you do this in the business world, out what I call in the marketplace. For-profit and non-profits and churches. Yeah, church. I'm just looking too. Yeah.
Churches, you know, faith organizations. And if people wanted more information on that, there's CEOs or business leaders out there listening to this. They say, wow, I want to get more information on that. I'd love to be with you. Yeah.
Go to joeljohnson.org.
Okay. Just scroll down the screen. You're going to see business. You click on more information, and then you'll be able to pick from I'm for you know a for-profit business or I'm a church or I'm an organization of whatever kind. You click on that and then it gives you the rundown and you can get in contact with us.
And there's a little calendar you can set a date with us that is online there and we'll give you a callback and you'll be able to learn and ask all the questions that you would might have about if it's right. For your team. Yeah, that's amazing.
So, if you're a business out there, business leader, church leader, non-profit leader, you might want to consider reaching out to Joel and KC Johnson, joeljohnson.org.org.
Well, it is QA with Koloff, Joel. Before we run out of time, I do want to flip the table here and give you the opportunity to ask me a couple questions.
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Before the show, we were kind of talking and I had asked you a question. You're like, save that for Q ⁇ A.
So I'm going to do that now.
Okay. What about you? Have you, in your inner life, what's been... A struggle or one of your struggles, because we all have them, that you've had to face and overcome?
So, great question. Get real close to home here, real personal.
So, I, over the years, It was, I actually went to so Lex Wilger and I do these man camps. We bring men in and we give them set them, put them in a setting where they can really just uh where are they located? We do a little talk called Royston, Georgia, home of baseball player Ty Cobb.
Okay, um, Royston, Georgia. There's a hundred-acre piece of property there, Jerome Stratton, Camp Little Light. It's called Jerome's been doing ministry there for inner city underprivileged kids for years and years and years. And over the years, he's built cabins and a chuck wagon and bunkhouse and teaching training center called the Freedom Barn. I mean, all kinds, right?
And pretty amazing. And So anyway, so so and and but my first camp was out in Texas actually flew into Dallas, Fort Worth, and got on a bus and drove several hours south to to to a camp and where I was really impacted there at that camp one on on manhood the way the Bible defines it and describes it. And that was really for me kind of the first time I really was introduced to God's view of manhood and and it just it just wrecked my world in a really wonderful way. But the other the big thing that happened there at that point, I'm 47 at this point. In fact, I turned 47 at camp.
Wow. I got on the bus on my birthday was love. was love and And you know, the Lord had asked me a question. I was out in the wilderness one day. I was going to be fasting and out in the wilderness, just one-on-one with Him.
And He asked me a question: He said, You know why you have trouble really? And he emphasized this word, really loving other people. And I was like, I wasn't trying to be, you know, smart Alec or anything, but I thought, man, I think I'm doing pretty good. Like, but you asked the question, I'm like, No, why? And his response, Joel, was because you don't really, he emphasized that word again, know how to love me.
But as you learn how to love me, you're then going to know how to really love other people. And I broke. I'll just be full transparency. I broke, man. I just wept like a baby there.
Just really broke my heart, right? And then I said, well, teach me, Lord. And he said, I will. I will. And that was in March of 2006.
So 20 years now, I've been on that journey of him teaching me how to love him. And one might ask the proverbial question. You might ask, if I was sitting on the couch and we were having a session, not on this podcast, but you might ask, any reason, you know, and I go, 100%. Here's the deal.
So growing up in a single home, you know, you always hear the stories, well, I knew my dad loved me or I knew my mom loved me, but they never knew how to express it or whatever. My mom, Joel, was 76 the first time she ever said, I love you. 76. And that's because I started initiating. I give my life to Christ.
And I started initiating that. And it was even awkward for her at first. And even up to her passing, it was still kind of awkward. My dad. Was 84.
It was actually on his 84th birthday, the first time he ever said, I love you, son. 84 and 76. And again, I would say, did my mom love me? She loved me. She provided for me, but you know, she didn't, she didn't know how to express it.
You know what I found out? She didn't know how to express it because she didn't. she felt unloved herself. Her mom handed her off to her aunt to raise her. And her aunt raised her.
Her aunt had no children, but is raising a child. And so her aunt really didn't know how to express love to a child.
So that's how my mom grew up, right? And so look back on that, and I can see why, you know, I could see why Lord said, you know, why you have trouble really loving other people. And I love to the best of my ability what I thought was real love. But in the last 20 years, Joel, is where I've really learned how to. Really love.
Others and love the Lord Himself. That's so powerful. Yeah. You know, you know, our primary caregiver, which is most of us, is mom. Those first five years starting in the womb to five, we really determine how we will relate with other people.
Did you do a book on that? Or were you telling you were telling before we came on air? No, it's attachment theory. A guy named Bowlby out of Oxford and Amy, Amy Ainsworth.
So you've been studying this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a whole, I mean, it's a whole area of psychology. But really, that first five years, if your mother isn't tending to you joyfully, if your mother isn't coming, you know, like coming to you when you need her, what begins to happen is you can either you become, you're not secure, you become anxious. In your attachments.
So if something's going wrong, you're always like, Is everything okay? Is everything right? You're a master of reading people or avoidant. And that's where most men are. They don't want to deal with anything emotional because they're like, whatever.
Or you become fearful. Disconnect, right? Yeah, yeah. Or you become fearful in that, which is the even lower level and harder. It's kind of forms of avoidant and anxious mix up in this fearful-based type.
But the good news is that you can actually come back to secure. And the great news, we talked about skill one briefly in another episode of the Whole Hearted Journeys, the book. Skill number one, you can actually attach. To God as your parental figure, as your perfect mother-father, father figure. Yes, Abba, Abba, right?
Daddy, yes, Abba. And it's interesting, though, you know, the Holy Spirit most of the time is conjugated in the Old Testament in the feminine. Yeah. So, and so you have a sibling, Jesus, and you have kind of these mother-father figures, right? Because man and woman, they really display the glory of God in his nature.
You put them together, he is nurturing, but he is also strong and powerful.
So, anyways. Oh, so I hope that answered your question, though. I hope that answered your question. Yes, you did. One example.
Yeah. That's powerful. Awesome.
Well, thank you for asking. I don't think anyone's ever asked that before.
So, well, I think Dr. Joel. You got a mini look into a session, right? You got a mini look into just being able to explore that. Yeah, identify what, what, what and to do the work because that that un that attachment.
Doesn't go away without a little bit of work with that. And that's what I've done over the last 20 years. It's really, I've worked on my relationship with the Lord and loving Him. Yep, attaching to him. You know, He first loved us.
Yes, you're attaching to Him. I love it, loving Him, working on deepening that relationship with Him. And then I'd like to think that my friends around me, my family around me would say that I have really grown in terms of how I love them as I've learned how I love Him.
So, all right, we got time for one more question. What you got? Yeah, where do you want to go? Yeah, what was your favorite moment in WWF or WWE? What was your kind of like favorite?
Pinnacle moment for me.
Okay. That's a great, great, great question. Really, a shifting of gears here. People are like, man, dude, it's just like pouring his heart out about love. No, no, no.
It was psychological wrestling.
Now we're just talking about wrestling, which is real. The actual physical wrestling. He actually wrestled. WWE, it's real. That's right.
That's right. So I guess I would. It's hard to Really, kind of pinpoint Eddie one thing. In fact, this year, let me just say this: this will help. This year, 2026, is the 40th anniversary.
Of the best of seven series against Magnum TA, Terry Allen, my nemesis, for the U.S. heavyweight title, right?
Now, back in those days, he's the all-American, good-looking guy. I'm the nemesis, you know, the Cold War, bad, evil Russian guy.
So it was a perfect setup. Yeah. Right? And the last thing on the planet they wanted was a Russian. To be the U.S.
heavyweight champion, right? Yeah, for sure. And for those who, in those days who had that belt, you were then in line, first runner for the world heavyweight title to wrestle against Ric Flair or whoever else had the world heavyweight title at that time. And so on the 40th anniversary, that was a real highlight. And Magnum and I have talked.
I would give you, you are some of the first to know this.
So Magnum and I are working on highlighting that 40th anniversary in the way of putting together a t-shirt. a poster, a commemorative coin. Hopefully, a two-pack action figure of him and I, along with the U.S. belt and my Russian chain, and the whole deal in the little package. And then, and then highlighting a few towns we haven't decided where yet, but actually, him and I being together for photo ops and to sign some of this stuff and be able to sign me up.
Come on, tell me where I can learn more about that.
Well, we've got a couple towns picked out. One might be right here in Winston-Salem, where the Truth Studio is. Another one may be in Charlotte, and then we may do an online so that the rest of the world can take part in it. Yeah, well, I was just thinking about like the commemorative coin and figures, all that stuff. Where will we get word on that?
Well, we got a lot of things in the works. I gotcha.
So, and we're working on location and dates of where we want to actually be in person as well as the online.
So, there'll be social media. Magnum has his own. Own social media. I got my social media.
So I got this show. I'll get Magnum on the show to promote it. Great. Once we get all that put together.
So I would say certainly the best of seven is one of the biggest highlights and the most fun I had in the wrestling business. The other, I'll just add another one on there just real quick.
So did you win? Or did you lose?
Okay, and what was the moment of winning?
So, if you don't know, so I didn't watch that one. That was probably pay-per-view.
Well, there wasn't even pay-per-view back then.
So, those were the Great American Bash Tour was where most of those took place.
So, in city.
So, what we did is we researched it to all the different towns. Like, what we plan on having on the poster and the t-shirt is each town date. Like location, date, and then who won, right? And so the way we laid it out, I won the first one. Yeah.
And matched two, I won the second one. Whoa. Match three, I won the third one. What?
So I'm up three to nothing on the All-American Magnum TA, or as I used to call him, MAGA TA.
Okay. Nice, nice. He I was going for the clean sweep. Yeah. But man, he pulled it out in the fourth match, three to one.
Three to two. Three to three. Oh, it's building. It's building. Coming down to the seventh and final match in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Okay. The seventh and final match, of which I was able to walk away with the belt, leave the fans livid, and Magnum very, very disappointed. But that set up a whole tour for rematches and tour after that. And so all that. Oh, oh, gosh, I forgot one of the best things, Joel.
So a good friend of mine, William Murdoch, who worked with me on my last book project, My Life Story, Nikita, A Tale of the Ring of Redemption, met with Magnum and I. He is going to do a 40th anniversary commemorative book. Wow. Accounting the whole entire journey, including interviews with David Crockett, one of the owners, Tony Schiavone, one of the announcers, Tommy Young, the referee in match seven. Wow.
Magnum and I, obviously, Bill After. Head of Pro Wrestling Illustrated magazine. All that's going to be included in the commemorative 40th anniversary book. As well.
So that hopefully should be out sometime this summer. I'll be checking Amazon.
So come on. That's where you'll find it, too. You'll find it on Amazon.
So you know, 75% of the world's books are sold on Amazon.
Well, it's just thought I'd throw that doctor, Joel Johnson, his lovely bride, Casey. Listen, check out all that they are doing and they're involved with joeljohnson.org. Check it out. Thanks for being with me. That was really great today.
Appreciate it. It's been a lot of fun. It's an honor. Fun to have you in the studio. And to all of you out there, make sure and go over to It's Time to Man Up.
We did not one show, but two shows with it because there's just so much to talk about. You're going to be fascinated by our conversations and everything that Joel and Casey are involved in and how they can best help you and all of your needs. Until next time, go out and have a God-filled, live a God-blessed life. Yeah. If you are a business owner and would like to advertise your company or product on the Man Up Show and or QA with Koloff.
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