Nick Turturro: The Yankees Can't Let Juan Soto Go

This is The Rich Eisen Show. Live from The Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. The Rich Eisen Show. Earlier on the show, Lions Head Coach Dan Campbell hosted a Blurry Days podcast, Johnny Manziel. Still to come, BYU quarterback Jake Renslap, actor Nick Turturro.

And now, it's Rich Eisen. That's why I love doing this show. I mean, and everything that we do here on The Rich Eisen Show and our podcast network because, you know, Kurt Warner is going to be on What the Football with Susie and Amy who are in a green room right now and about to crash in the green room is Nick Turturro. Nick Turturro is about to hang out with Amy Trask and my wife while we're hanging out here.

Just keep your shirt on. Can we get RJ with the camera back? We need to record some of this. What, Susie and Amy and Nick Turturro? All just sitting back there? Just sitting back.

Okay. But as soon as we're done, again, Susie Schuster, Amy Trask with Kurt Warner, What the Football. So much to talk about with him. We had Dan Campbell on in hour number one. Phone lines are lit.

844-204-RICH is the number. We'll take your phone calls. We'll clear out the phone banks before we get out of Dodge. We're seeing some of our regulars getting ready to chime in as well. We always appreciate that. But I got to be honest with you.

You know, there are stories that jump out at me and I'm like, I would like to talk to that person. And, you know, when you're a quarterback in college football and you're 7-0 and your team's 11th ranked in the country, that's one thing. But when you're that quarterback at BYU, that's another. And if you're a Jewish kid doing it at BYU, well, then you had me at hello.

And certainly I've never called a huddle the horror before, but this guy can. And he's joining us right here on the Rich Eyes and Show. He's Jake Retzlaff of Brigham Young University. Good to see you, Jake. How are you? Good to see you too. I'm doing good.

Thanks for having me on. Yes. I'll be honest with you.

It's fascinating to see that star David next to the Y right there, Jake. Yeah. It's something different. That's for sure.

Something special. How did you wind up at BYU, Jake? I had a crazy route when, when it came to recruiting and stuff like that at a high school was COVID shut down all the recruiting. So I went junior college, ended up playing at two different junior colleges. And then it was after my second season BYU offered and, and it just looked too good to be true. It was Jaron Hall's getting drafted. Zach Wilson got drafted a couple of years before. So it was like, it was a spot to be a quarterback.

And so it looked really, really appealing to a guy like me in junior college coming out and trying to compete at a high level and the move to the Big 12 was also a huge deal. Sure. And so was it you or, or coach that brought up religion in this conversation? Did you say, Hey, you realize I'm not Mormon. I'm Jewish. Did that ever come up in this conversation?

Yeah. It's something that in recruiting coaches know, like they know that's part of this university. And so it's something that's mentioned and it's, and what school was like my quarterback coach, who's an analyst here, Matt Mitchell, he, he's not a member of the church either. He's just, he's Christian. And so it was easy for him to talk to me about being of different faith, but at the same time, Christianity and being part of the church here is not too far off. There's definitely some big differences.

But definitely being Jewish is a big, big difference. That's part of the reason why I wanted to, you know, zoom in and have this conversation with you, Jake, you know, because again, football is football, right? And that's the beautiful part about this is as a locker room that, you know, it's about teamwork and it's about teammates and it's about finding commonality rather than anything else.

And that's one of the many things I love about football, but this is definitely something unique. And I'm wondering how that hits you when you first got to Brigham Young and started meeting your teammates. Yeah, when it came to the decision-making of why BYU and breaking down BYU, the religion was something that definitely had to be talked about. And it was something that we didn't exactly see as a huge negative, because one thing's for certain is I'll be able to keep the main thing, the main thing here at BYU.

I'll be able to take care of business on the field and in the classroom, get a degree without so many distractions. That's what's awesome about BYU is limited distractions. We're all about football. We're keeping the main thing, the main thing. And that's honestly one thing that makes us so good on the field. It's a competitive advantage to have such limited distractions and stuff like that here.

So, yeah, I mean, it's different though. I mean, first coming here, you get a lot of questions, but it's also fun to ask those same questions back and get to learn a lot about the church of Jesus Christ. A lot of us in here, especially a lot of us in here, more known to the Mormons. And it's a good time being here, because everybody's super positive. When you're at a place like this that's so centered around faith, it was so easy for me to kind of grow in my faith. And so I got to become more faithful in my religion and being Jewish being here.

It was easier for me to do that. Well, and obviously, again, you're wearing the Star of David prominently, as you do always, just doing it just for this interview. And plus, you guys and your teammates talk openly about it. Is it true? Your nickname is B.Y. Jew. Jake, is that true?

Is that really true? 100%. B.Y.

Jew, that's me. Game up with it. I forget one. T-shirts. T-shirts. I love it.

You got the T-shirts going and everything. Uh-oh. Is that a sign or anything that a zoo just froze? That's great.

Not great. No, it's not it. That's not a problem.

It's kind of just in the middle of all that. Oh my gosh. Well, he's back. Is he back?

Yeah. Oh, he's not back. Oh, sorry.

Okay. All right, hold on. Oh, there he is. You there, Jake? There he is, Mike. Okay, you froze. I bring up B.Y.

Jew, and then all of a sudden your Zoom freezes. I don't know if that's a sign of anything going on. So there's T-shirts and everything being made up right now? Yeah.

T-shirts, everything being made up. Just leaning on it, you know what I mean? It's super positive to me. And I think it's just awesome to bring two communities together that they don't have much business being together, except for starting around me and football. And so it's a cool deal. I'm super happy with it.

I'm super proud of it. I love the outreach I get from Jewish communities worldwide. I mean, I've had outreach from people saying, cheering you on from Israel. I've had outreach from all over the country.

Canada, it's like it's truly become international. And the BYU brand is international because of the church. And so that's also a cool deal. Do you talk about October 7th with your teammates at all, Jake? Yeah.

Yeah. It was talked about. It was definitely something that was here and talked about a little bit. I mean, what was awesome is the support right away from coaches here. I mean, I was reached out by Coach Kalani and Coach Aykroyd, both, and my position coach. They reached out and said they were behind me. They were going to support me. Whatever I needed, they're going to be there to help me do whatever I had to do. And so something that's been tough, but kind of important is to make sure I'm aware, but I'm not looking into the news while I'm here focusing on winning football games because that stuff can really get in your head. And you see all the turmoil that's causing and stuff like that.

And so it's something that was acknowledged, which is important, but it's also not something that I've let overwhelming overtake what I'm doing here. And in terms of Jake Ratzlaff of a 7-0 BYU here on The Rich Eisen Show, do you have any contact with Steve Young, any of the BYU quarterback alumni base as you're going through your business at all? Yeah, it's cool. The connections we have here. Zach Wilson was at the game Friday night.

Jaron Hall's around the building, always does the recents. Steve Young came up to me right before the Arizona game. It was kind of cool. He just appeared on the sideline right in front of me and said some good words of encouragement and stuff. And it was cool. He talked about me on the big new kickoff show.

We had Fox here for that. And he's been awesome. I texted him with him a little bit and he's great.

He's sending me good words of encouragement, sending me advice. And somebody that I'll definitely try to lean on a little bit because he obviously had so much success. And that man is super bright, super brilliant. I mean, graduating from the BYU Law School as well as winning Super Bowls and Super Bowl MVPs and stuff like that. He's an impressive man. And so just being able to kind of pick his brain a little bit has been awesome for me. Then on top of him, we have great still in the building, like Robbie Bosco works here at BYU as part of the athletic department.

And so it's fun to be able to talk to him around the building too. And in terms of quarterbacks that you grew up idolizing, I'm going to take a shot here because I did see a quick snippet as you were on your chair, which I believe during your Bar Mitzvah, maybe during the horror celebration of your Bar Mitzvah, Jake, is that an Aaron Rodgers Packers jersey that you're wearing at that moment? Yeah, Aaron Rodgers Packers jersey, the Green Bay Packers hat, the whole deal. That was my Bar Mitzvah party.

We had it sports themed and it was just wear your favorite jersey. And it was a lot of fun. Yeah, Rodgers was my guy growing up. Right when he came in the league, end of the Farvara, he came out of Cal and I just became a Packers fan looking at him because there was no Rams in LA and there was no LA Chargers yet.

LA was kind of teamless for a little bit. And so I was looking elsewhere and Green Bay looked fun watching Aaron Rodgers. I grew up trying to play like him and be like him a little bit. And so, yeah, Rodgers was my guy from day one.

And so is there any part of your game that you have imitated him, modeled after him that next time we watch you again, we can notice, pick out from that sort of thing? Yeah, what I love about especially Rodgers, the peat of his career is he moved so well and threw so well on the move and stuff like that. Like he was really good.

He's not moving the same. He wasn't young and early in his career right now, but when he moved in his early career, he could pull the ball down and run it really effectively, but also scramble and make a play on the run. I mean, him and Stafford started the improvisation type stuff. And then Mahomes, of course now is known most for it in this era. But I like to go back to the Stafford and Rodgers throwing off platform, being in awkward body positions and making accurate throws.

That's something that I tried to learn early in my career and something that I'm trying to do game after game here. Well, I mean, you're going to UCF this weekend, Jake, and you've got a shot here at a playoff spot. I mean, are you thinking this openly right now? The rest of your teammates talking about this, this is real for you. I mean, yeah. I mean, being undefeated this late in the season, of course going to creep up in your mind, but that's the fun thing about it is you got to be able to stay focused and win game after game.

Coach A-Rod here talks about it. Every week is a Super Bowl. We're on Super Bowl eight right now. And we got to win this week. And we're going to do a good football team down in UCF.

I got to travel across the country. That's not always easy. And they're a good football team. So we're preparing for them, but definitely have our sights set to the future. But like I said, you got to stay focused on what we're doing right now.

In order to win week after week, you got to be down in week after week. And how's your family taking all this, Jake? You know, I mean, again, I had a Jewish mother who I once took to a football game. And when there was a roughing the kicker penalty, I had to explain to her that it's because you're not allowed to touch the kicker, at which point she would have said, oh, I would have allowed you to be a kicker, is what my Jewish mother said to me. Jake, you're laughing. So did your, you know, how did your Jewish mom take you wanting to play football, things of that nature?

Jake? Well, she married a football coach. So I don't know that she had much choice in the matter. Both coaches, my mom grew up in Brooklyn, New York, a Brooklyn Jew. Same with my mom.

Look at us, you and me. Okay, keep going. All right. And was an athlete her whole life, tennis player, went to St. John's University on scholarship as a tennis player. Played overseas, played in the Maccabee games. That's great. And then got recruited by the Jewish coach to come coach in Southern California, where she met my dad at Claremont Colleges.

They were both coaching there. And so when she met a football coach and married a football coach, I imagine she came to terms with the idea her kids would be playing football. And I bet she's happy in some ways that I'm a quarterback, because I don't get touched as much as a lot of other people do.

But sometimes when I get hit, I do get hit really hard. So, you know, she's got to live with that. But it's fun. They've gotten used to it by now, of course. But it's more fun to see extended family that starts freaking out whenever I get hit and stuff like that. Then you hear about it? Then you hear about it?

I hear about it. And they say they cringe and stuff like that. And I have an uncle who is a Navy Seal and one of the toughest dudes on the planet. But every time I get hit, he like jumps and freaks out. I'm like, wow, I'm not doing anything like you did back in the day.

But it's cool. The support from the family has been awesome. My parents love coming out to the games. I'll have a huge East Coast crowd at the Florida game because they're all New Yorkers with condos in Florida. And so they'll all be down there at that game. I'll have a big student or big cheering section in the family section for me.

So it'll be awesome. Jake, I'm thrilled to get to meet you. I've been admiring what you've done so far from afar. And I appreciate your pride in wearing the star of David like you do around your neck and comporting yourself the way that you do. And I wish you good luck. And let's chat again shortly. Let's do it. Appreciate you for having me on. Does this mean we're mishpoka now, Jake?

Is that what that means right now? It's good with me. Okay, very good. Thanks, Jake. You take care of yourself. You too.

That's Jake Retzlaff of BYU right here on the Rich Eisen Show as he heads off to Florida, where as he, I do believe, intimated, made mention, will be surrounded by much more Jews than he normally is. Stay to Florida. I can say these things. You can. And I'm glad we can have fun with this. All right, let's get things back on the rails for Nick Turturro to derail them. Yeah, right. All right, Yankees are in the World Series. That means Nick Turturro is back on the Rich Eisen Show. That's next.

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Okay, this show is, we turned 10. Yankees have never been in a world series since this show has been on the air. Okay, I understand that. I understand how you're feeling right now. But the Yankees in the World Series here in Los Angeles, California to start on Friday night, we had to bring this man in here. And I don't know how this, you know, works in to his maniacal paranoia when it comes to messing with the grand scheme of things. But Nick Turturro is here on the Rich Dyson Show. Thank you.

My pleasure. I mean, like, cause we've, you know, we've done this before. Right.

We've done this before hoping the end result in the American League would be what has happened. Right. Finally. We're not messing with the grand order of things by talking about it. Not at all. You don't think so? No, not at all.

I'm not, this is not a jinx. This is a good thing. In fact, here's a little hat for you.

This is awesome. A little token. Look at you. What else you got? You got stuff? You got stuff to get ahead? You reaching into your pocket? I don't know weapons.

Nothing like that. It's a cigar. But I can't, what am I going to do with this? You can smoke it later.

Wait till we win the series. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Save that. Put that on ice. Victory cigar.

That goes on ice until we close them out. Yeah. It's a Gurkha, huh? 30th anniversary. Yeah. This is nice. You know, I go into the special hardware for that.

That's a vault. That's just a fun hat. I don't know your head size, but I appreciate, you know, well, I mean, you know, I'm in TV, I'm in TV. So I got a bigger head than you think.

Seven and a half. I got makeup on. Don't fold it like that. That's a, that one's a flat one. Oh, it's a flat one. Okay.

Looks good on you. Thank you, sir. Oh, this is fitted. Yeah. Look at you. What are you, a seven and a half? Yeah, I hope, I hope so.

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Call click Grainger.com or just stop by. I was so thrilled to get this man's, by the way, direct message on Instagram. This is how we're communicating with each other.

He's like, Hey, I want to come on. If we make the world series, we make the world series. Look, who's here.

Nick Turturro, everybody. Now you were in Cleveland, huh? I was there. I went there for games three, four and five, three and four. I went for three and four, came home on five and I watched it at home because I was burnt after three and four. Those games were two of the most incredible, intense, competitive baseball games in the playoffs in any series I can remember those, those games, three and four, wild. What was it like in that stadium? It was, it was really, really intense.

I mean, it looked like the Yankees were going nowhere in that game three. And then all hell broke loose. Judge came through.

Finally, he hits class who's supposedly unhittable now has become human. And then Stan goes back to back and then we're going wild. And meanwhile, I feel bad because I'm shaking hands with all these Cleveland people that I'm like, sorry guys, but I'm happy right now. You understand? I'm happy. And then it was five, three.

And when he has something weird, yes. Uh, a Yankee fan, a chubby Yankee fan, like was leaving before the last out. I go, where are you going? Cause I'm going to beat the traffic. I go, don't leave Cleveland traffic. Yeah.

What traffic, what are you talking about? Don't leave hits basically a home run. You know, what's his name? And then the guy from major league shows up.

Right. I don't want to say the name, but right out of the freaking movie, I had a bad feeling. It was, and rich. I had a great view.

Serrano, Pedro Serrano. He'd looks just like insane. And that stance. I was scared to death. I knew where he hit it. I was like, Oh my God, we're going to lose this game. Well, you certainly, well, I mean, it was extra innings. You knew you're going to lose the game when you saw it was coming out of the pen after that.

I knew that. I mean, Weaver was due, Weaver was due to, he threw a cookie cutter to a batting practice pitch to the guy, you know, those changeups once in a while when they hang like that, you're dead. And then the next night he almost did it again. I had a bad view and I'm like, Oh no, Oh no.

I couldn't find the ball. Oh, well, by the way, if you were watching at home, you know, back in, I'm going to say something that, that you'll get Nick and you'll get Mike. Is that back in the day when Yankees were on WPIX channel 11.

Okay. Whenever a Yankee hit hit a deep shot, Rizzuto would go like, that's gone. Right. And it was never gone for like 80% of the time. Rizzuto be like, that's a Holy cow. And it, and they would widen out and they would widen out the shot. And you would think like, Oh God, that 50 feet beyond the fence. And it was a can of corn.

That's how TBS shot that one. I thought that was gone. It is gone. Can get.

And then there's Verdugo in the corner. Yeah. Grabbing it. I'm like, how the hell did that happen? Yeah.

I thought it was gone again. He was on everything. I know it's crazy. But everybody's on it.

That's the beautiful thing. The guardians play some great baseball. Everybody is on it. Kwon, Ramirez, both nailers are on it. Jimenez is on it.

That guy, Rocio was on it. I mean, they were like, literally there's, there's no holes in that lineup. I mean, they never strike out Kwon.

That guy's deadly. It's like, I thought he was up every three batters. It looked like constantly he was up.

Nonstop. It's like this guy again, didn't do nothing was Ramirez. Thank God. We shut him down.

We shut him down completely because I don't think, cause he faced, I don't think he faced Clay Holmes. Well, I'm sorry to do that. I know that man. I, I, I shouldn't say things like that. I know I should be more professional about him. You know, I said enough about the poor guy in all caps and all caps and the very most profane language on X. It's just frustration.

It's in the moment. I want the guy to, you know, you got what you need to understand is I want him to succeed, not fail, but put him in a place where he can succeed. He's not built for the ninth inning. He's not made for it.

He doesn't have the DNA for it. He can do good in the seventh and the eighth. And I even screamed, I said, try somebody, try anything, try Weaver. And he turned out to save our season because without a closer, Rich, you're not winning anything. The one guy who also did very well towards the end of the ALCS that I kind of thought that they would choose to be the closer to begin with is Kirk Cousins, his cousin, Jake Cousins.

He was filthy. I mean that, that he throws the same damn pitch and it's not edible like nine times out of 10. And then, then he throws that, that fastball that kind of tails away from the lefty or cuts in on a righty.

Yeah. And he's kind of unhittable like that. He looks unhittable at times and he's going to be a weapon that we're going to need, but you know, you can't have a bullpen every game, every game. It gets exposed in a seven game series. The starting pitching is the key in this world series.

Here's an interesting point. I've got Nick Turturro here in the Rich Eisen show. We'll talk a little bit of ball here and then we'll talk about the Dodgers and the world series that's coming up is, I don't know, did you guys also hear this? Cause you, you probably didn't hear it cause you were in the stadium in Cleveland, but Ron Darling, who's awesome. I thought the TBS guys and Brian Anderson and Jeff Francore and Ron Darling, I thought they were great.

Oh God, they were, they were a terrific listen. But Darling said this when, cause the Indians used it, you know, they had their big four relievers and they kept on using them over and over and over again. And Ron Darling pointed out how in this day and age of baseball, you don't want your starters to face the same lineup a third time in a night, right? The whole analytics, you got to take them out, but the relievers, sure.

Let them face the same hitters five straight nights in a row. And it makes no sense, right? Like, you know what I'm saying? They're going to figure them out.

I don't care how good you are. You're going to get figured out. Even when they used to pitch Mariano multiple innings, sometimes in the second inning, if you remember in the desert, you know, in Arizona, he came in in the eighth and then they got him in the ninth. You know, I heard him the other day. He's like that play at second base. He's like, I make that anytime I make that play.

Then he goes, I had him at third and broaches had a double play. He's still like butthurt about broaches not throwing the ball over. It's funny how guys never forget. Well, I mean, and especially when they've got enough to remember about winning too.

They always remember the ones that got away. But you understand what I'm saying? Like, why? Like, it's no problem. Let's bring in the same reliever against the same guy for a fourth, fifth straight night.

But oh, no, no, no. If the starter is facing the lead off hitter in the second place hitter for a third straight time, I don't care if he's got 60, 70 pitches. He's out of the game. Makes no sense. You know what I mean? I don't like it either. But we're old school baseball guys.

They were old school baseball guys. It's just a new way of thinking about the game. And then you got to watch the game with your eyes, my friend. Watch the game with your eyes. It'll tell you, you know, once a guy gives up a bomb, I heard Mike Francis say this, get him out of there.

He's so right. Once a guy gives up a home run, get him out like class. They gave up a bomb. What happened? The next guy hit a bomb.

It happens. Get that guy out. That's a, that's very smart thinking. You know, and Francis, I go to him because, you know, Mike's the goat. So, you know, you go to Francesca. I go, I listen to Francesca. Francesca loved it.

When the Mets had the Hawk to a girl throughout the first pitch, he loved that. Yeah. Oh, you're too classy for that.

Is that what you're trying to say? What me? No, no.

Francesca. What? Oh yeah. Well, the Yankees aren't doing that. No, no, no. Thank you. I don't know who, I don't know who's going to throw out the, well, dude, let's be honest here though.

And I know there's a different ownership group. Yankees Mets subway series. They had the, who let the dogs out guys sing, sing, sing, who let the dogs out before the world series. Come on, get out of here. Have a little more class tonight.

You know what I mean? I mean, it's the Mets. Don't you think Jeter's going to have to throw out a ball, right? He's there for Fox. He's working. So what he's going to be done off the set and then he'll throw out a first pitch for what? Like game three. Why wouldn't you have Jeter do it?

You should have all the big, the core four burn, right? Bernie will do one, right? Show is not going to throw out a first pitch. I said Jorge. Oh, Jorge. Oh yeah. The big core four of Jorge, Pettit, Rivera, and Jeter.

Maybe they do all that one night. Who else you get? Reggie, Reggie, Reggie from the seventies, Reggie or somebody Reggie's not part of the Yankee organization. He's with Houston now. Oh, that's right. I don't know if Reggie's, uh, I don't know if he's going to do that.

Bring it back. I don't know who else around from those. I don't know. I don't know.

Uh, you know, I don't know. He's your last world series winner. He was the hero. Then have CC Sabathia do it.

Wow. You guys hate A-Rod. No respect. I don't hate him. I love A-Rod. We don't win 2009 without him.

We don't. That's true. And again, man, you got to give it up to Cashman who I've been, um, very critical of from this seat over the years. Well, he finally made the right move.

He finally brought in the dude that has that intangible, that is a winner. He's a different breed, Rich. This guy is a savage. You're talking about, I know we can talk about Juan Soto.

Yeah. I'm talking about Juan Soto. That guy, he's not your typical player, man.

And he's, he's just got an edge. There's something about him that says, you know, without him, you know, the Yankees haven't been able to bust through and get over. And it was a crazy year for two months.

We were the best team in baseball for two months. We look like the worst team, but there's something about this team and it's him. It's that guy.

No doubt it is. He's the X factor. He's got an edge. That's how we're going to beat the Dodgers. We're going to beat him because we have to have the edge.

He's Tino and Brochas and all combined. What he's done, what he's done, what he's done is, is take the pressure off a judge. It's not just judge.

You have to do it. That's right. And, and we were, I was talking about this with Kay actually when he was here or might've been off camera or whatever. Like I don't recall a better back-to-back in the Yankee lineup.

The only thing that I can say it compared to, I think Kay even texted this to me is remember when Winfield and Mattingly were going for the batting title in the same year and they were both hitting like 360 that, but that was one year. And that, that, that this one, you know, I was saying just to keep it cheaper make Soto a member of the Steinbrenner family. Just make it cheaper. Just make him part of the family. You don't have to sign him this five, you know, 500, 600, $600 million deal. Just give him a cut of cut of the whole family business.

They can afford it. You can't let this guy go. It wouldn't be a disaster. You can't rent this guy for one year. He's unbelievable. He has to stay. He sometimes Edward Scissorhands in the field a little bit, but you know, but the ball usually finds you in postseason baseball. You can hide him in right field a little bit. He's better than Judge, right?

What? No. As an outfielder? As a player? Defensively? As a player. Defensively.

As a player. No, don't listen to him. He's just trying to...

I don't want to start comparing. I'm not trolling, but he's... He's a different breed. He's made Judge a better player. He's made Glaber a better player.

You know what I mean? He makes everyone a better player. He has.

He's made the whole team better. The guy's a winner. That counts for something, right?

Huh? That counts? Of course.

Of course it counts. You don't gotta say he's better. What does that prove?

What do you mean? We're on talk radio. He's a winner. You're going to look back and think his career is better than Judge's, right?

I'm just trying to tell you, the guy is a winner. He's kind of the missing guy. Like when the Yankees were in the 70s, they needed Reggie to get there. They need it. Without Reggie, they don't win. Well, let me give you at least this, okay?

Is that... Is he going to make Lindor better next year? This guy. No, that's a troll. Be quiet. Be quiet. Be quiet.

He finally figures out how to turn his microphone on for that guy. Listen, no, but I'll give you this. I'll give you this though. Soto did it when he was a baby. Right. Yeah. He's 19. He's 20 years old. And Judge, you know, obviously was a much more mature rookie.

What was he like 26, 27 when he popped on the scene? All right. And so, but Judge means something in the Yankee lore. But when you look back on a career, it's entirely possible that you would say that, you know, what Soto doesn't have like that single season home run American League record, but Soto throughout his entire career, I mean, the guy's 25. It's insane. It's absolutely insane.

It's hard to believe. And so, Nick Turturro here on the Rich Eisen Show, let's get into the World Series here, man. Because, you know, in the same way that we were just talking about, you know, relievers are going to face the same players over and over and over again as they happen with the Guardians and the Yankees.

I mean, it does look like unless there is some sort of change, you're going to see one, if not two, bullpen games from a World Series participant, right? What do you think? Like, don't you think? Without a doubt. I mean, because Kershaw is not coming back, is he? No, no, no. Right.

So what's going to happen here? I mean, you're going to have a bullpen game and the Yankees, if they do it in games two and six, bullpen games, right? Have they already announced starters?

I should have looked at that before we got into that. I know Cole is going for the Yankees. He's in game one, right? So it's entirely possible. The Dodgers have not announced any pitching.

Okay. So it's entirely possible the Yankees are going to go Rodone against a bullpen game twice. That's it, right? I mean, that's the way, I know the Mets couldn't crack through against the Dodgers bullpen in a way that was significant enough. Sooner or later, they're going to make you pay for these bullpen games. You think?

Yeah. I don't quite buy into that. I mean, starting, if you have great starting pitching or really good, that's always in the end, that's what's going to win you.

That's always going to win you. And of course the bullpen's got to come in and do their job. But I think the Yankees do have the strength.

Cole is the key. If Cole can get them a win game one and he can go four and possibly seven, hopefully it don't go to seven, but I think it'll be a long series. And the Yankees are a good road team. We got to get that first win. We won the first one against Kansas City.

We won. We won the first one against Cleveland and we won that series. So the Yankees are good on the road.

For some reason that Yankee Stadium, they're a little weird there sometimes, but they play well on the road. And I think their starting pitching is a little deeper. I like to even wait Hill or Gil, whatever his name is, he threw the ball well. Schmidt's tough. Hill can't find the strike zone consistently. Can he throw a strike? He can't find the strike zone consistently.

I know. If he can, he's going to be terrific. Maybe Nestor Cortez comes back. That would be a big change for that. I doubt it.

I mean, I don't think it's going to happen, but I don't know. Dodger offense has just been unbelievable. It didn't matter who the Mets threw out there. They were scoring 10 runs no matter what. Dude, Betts, as you know, he was one of those, when he was playing for the Red Sox, he was up there with Altuve and Edgar Martinez and anybody that has owned the Yankees like they're Steinbrenner than anybody else. Mookie Betts did that. And then, you know, Otani.

Yeah. And the World Series cannot be discounted. This is going to be amazing. And I don't know what the Yankees pitching plan is going to be for Otani. I mean, just think about it.

Think how iconic it is. You put them on base and there comes Mookie. Really?

I mean, that's no joke, dude. Let this dude hit three run bombs. You can't, you got to neutralize one of those guys. And I'd say if you neutralize him, but Mookie can come back and burn you. Well, I mean, there is a, you know, a track record from the three game series that they played in New York City. And Yamamoto dominated in that one. And the one who owned the Yankees like he was a Steinbrenner was Teosco.

Hernandez was unstoppable. So you got to, as much as we're focused in this conversation right now on Betts and Otani, it's both Hernandezes. Make sure Teosco and Kike and Tommy Edmond turns back into a pumpkin somehow.

I don't, I don't, I don't know. There's always these guys in the playoffs or the postseason. I got Tommy Edmond shows up years ago when I was a kid, Brian Doyle showed up for the 78. So, you know, because I went to those world series 77, 78, 40 something years, and now we're back finally.

Boy, they hated each other too though. I mean, that was serious business. I was at game six, the Reggie game, I was at 78. I was at the Nettles game, game three and game four, Reggie stuck his ass out. That was one of them. Do you know what he's talking about?

Okay. So Reggie, Reggie is going down to second base for a double play, uh, to, you know, or he's running down to second base to prevent a double play. And what he does is he realizes he's not getting the second base in time. He moved, as he said, stuck his ass out to block the ball from going back to first. And the umpires did not call interference. Did it hit him? He deflected the ball.

Yes. And Munson came around to score a second run. And Lasorda went nuts.

And he was right, but Reggie got away with it because it was a good actor. Oh, but that started some really bad blood too. It was nasty. Listen, I met that Ron Say guy one day. He got hit in the head by Goose Gossage. Yeah, but he was still butthurt about that play with me.

No pun intended. Then the next day he goes, we were tired because it was a night game. I said, no, you're wrong Ron.

It was a day late day. He goes, no, no, it wasn't. I go fact check it. He goes, I played in the game. I go, I watched the game. Don't debate me. Say, oh my God, you're right.

How did I not remember it? Then I saw him at the Yankee Dodger game the next day. He's working like downstairs. He goes, what are you doing here? I'm watching the game. What are you doing?

I work here. I go, all right, it's still like butthurt. Ron say, get over it. You lost. We beat you. We were the tougher team. We had more edge. They weren't beating the 77, 78 Yankees. They got the Yankees back in 81, the Mr. May series where Steinbrenner got into a fight in the elevator.

That's right. Different times, man. Different times. Different times.

Different years. You know, you can't compare. These guys are not as edgy, but Soto is the guy. I think he's going to take us. I don't, that guy just does not want to lose.

You know what I mean? He's, he's a winner to the end. Soto against the Dodgers again, and that's against the Yankees again. He's been incredible.

Incredible. And he's from here. This is his spot. He's from Notre Dame high. That's right.

Sherman Oaks. Back when he was Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike from the valley. He's now Giancarlo from the Bronx, pal. Have some respect.

He's got an edge to him. I think what's crazy about this series is like normally in the world series and stuff, it's always somebody you're not expecting, you know, like a few years ago, Jorge Soler for the Braves. Yes.

Right. I think in this series, you got six hall of famers, at least in this series. Like I think the stars are going to play like stars and these games are going to be incredible. So you got Soto, you got Judge, you got Stan. Stan's a hall of famer, man. And you got Otani, Betts, Freeman.

You go Freeman? Yeah. No doubt. No doubt.

At least. I mean, Kershaw is not in the playing of the series. He's a hall of famer. Cole might make the hall of fame.

Cole is on it. Possibly eight. Yeah. That's crazy. That's right. That's going to be the most hall of famers in a world series matchup since back in the day.

Awesome. Austin Wells, right? You got Austin Wells? He is terrible. He's terrible. They dropped him down. They dropped him down and he homeward. Yeah. Dropped him down and he homeward.

Smart move. Aaron Boone pushing buttons. Shaving mustache or something. Like change it up. It's not helping.

It's not helping. It's like, well, it's like, you know, I don't want to say, well, whatever. Can Rizzo catch the ball at first? I don't know what that was either. I almost lost my mind, dude. I almost lost my mind. Again, the fact that Mark Glider booted that one and then damn near kicked it into foul territory, but got it enough to flip it to Rizzo. And it went through his legs. Like I was watching my kid playing little league again.

I was just looking like, what is happening? And you were there, buddy. I mean, Holy smokes. I went to those games.

Yeah. Those games are off the charts. I know the guardians are so damn good.

They are so damn good. And it's something about playing close games that I think could help the Yankees. You know, I just played a lot of blowouts. When you play those close games, you know, it builds something.

You learn how to win. You going? Oh, I'm going. I don't know where I'm going. I mean, I'm going. The prices, the prices. I know it's not easy. Everybody's prices are insane. I don't know.

Like, I'm kind of like Braveheart. I'm holding, I'm holding. I don't know if they're coming down, man. It's off the charts.

It's stupid. You're going to have to make some moves, Rich. I don't know what you got to do, but you got to do whatever you got to do to get in there. Imagine a game, game seven at Dodger stadium on November 2nd.

Just sell a house. Listen, who are you going with? You got to go. You got to go. I mean, my whole family wants to go.

They want to be like, can you imagine five tickets? You got to stay tough. One of you gets to come figure it out. There's well, there's one that Cooper actually is the one who sits next to me watching the yes network on March, on May 2nd. You tell everybody else. Yeah.

Have fun. He's the good luck charm, right? It's not about actually Xander.

My oldest is the good luck charm to the point where actually my youngest Cooper was, that was the diehard Yankee fan thinks his mom is the bad luck charm because she's a red sock fan. And, and, and Xander, my oldest who really doesn't have much, much care about it. He comes in all of a sudden his home runs going on. He's like, Zane, you got to stay.

He's just like, he sounds like you. He takes after me. I tell people, Marty Lisek was there. Our old friend, Marty. Don't leave. Don't leave. He got me in a choke hold in one of the videos.

He was like, Oh my God, I'm getting so much hate on this. I was choking you. That's not a bad invitation. That does, by the way, you don't know what Martin Lisek is.

People in this town do. That sounds like him. Hey, I met Tim Kirchen the other night. I was very funny. He goes, don't worry. I was depressed. He was like, you saw the great baseball game, but the Yankees are going to win. So don't worry.

You just saw a great baseball game, Nick. Nice. And I said, thank you, Tim.

Thank you. That's my Tim Kirchen. By the way, Kirchen is one of the sweetest human beings on the planet, but he makes you look like Aaron Judge. Yeah. He's like Al Tuve next to you. Listen, I can be physical with some of those dudes. You know what I mean? They were consoling me that night. Eddie Perez called Ravage after game three.

They're like, Nick, don't worry. Where are you at? A five, three, a six, three. I said, I'm coming down. I'm coming down. I was in the steakhouse. And then I ran into Meredith Murakhovich.

Nice lady. I said, you know, some of the Yankees don't always get me, but I said, it's all love. You know, it's all love in the end.

You are pure and you're diehard. And I'm so glad that we did this. Let's keep in touch. Let's do that. All right. Okay.

Keep your shirt on. Actually, I want it. What's your gut? Oh, God.

My gut, my gut is in all honesty, my gut is like Dodgers and six. Really? I don't feel that way. I'll be honest with you. Sorry, Rich. No, no, I'm sorry.

But that's okay. You asked me what my gut is. That is what my gut is.

Nick says what? My son? What do you see sitting back? You're tapped out because I, what do you got? What do I got? What are you missing for?

What do you got? You just you're the one who actually watched the Dodgers for six games. Yeah. You know, I'm really torn because I don't dislike the Yankees or the Dodgers. So I'm thinking, but you've seen both play.

Well, you've seen both play. I just, I kind of feel like the Yankees lineup, man, you got three just absolute killers that you got to deal with. And the Dodgers do too. Yes. Maybe the Yankees and seven.

What do you think? I think a lot of it comes down for the Dodgers for Freeman's health. I think he's such an important part of the lineup, but if T.S. Carr is playing like he's been playing, I'll say Dodgers and seven. What do you got? I got the Yankees and six. Okay.

I think so. Well, not in five, man. Well, he said five.

I said six. Then you stay home. You stay home. You stay home. You go to the Canyon of Heroes.

That's true. You start throwing confetti around. I'm going, I'll be both coats anyway, Rich.

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Because there's a lot of hand wringing over it today these days. Well, I think I struck out too much. And I average somewhere 2500 in 21 years is 125 a year. So, but that's too many. And I think for 162 games, if I would have played him out of average 140.

So that's too many strikeouts you can get by with. This is Wow. Hold on. Let me take this call from Palestine. I'm gonna call him right back. Okay, you go.

I'll call you right back. Okay. Reg, I mean, seriously, you could take that. I mean, you could put me on hold for the boss.

That's okay. I got I wouldn't want I can't have you hear what I'm saying. Now hold on a second, Reggie.

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Funny enough, I use the GameTime app to go to the ALCS. We really let him have it, but really just I was going based off of what you and Nick were just talking about, who should throw out the first pitch. I think it's the best storyline ever. If you have Otani in there, you have to send out Godzilla, man. It has to be.

Does he bring a suitcase with him? Yeah, I think so. All right, Alex, I like it. Matsui with Otani there. Why is Alex the nicest New Yorker?

That would be awesome, man. I forget, Alex, what did we say when you called in with Andrew? Why did we say you were the nicest New Yorker?

Because I wasn't here. Because this was during the grimmest Mets, obviously. The rawness said, hey, I'm rooting for the Mets too, man.

I remember this. Yankee fan need to root for the Mets. That makes him the silliest New Yorker. No, he was a good brother, Alex.

Thanks, Alex. That's Alex in Long Island. Matsui, that guy always got a big hit, dude. He was so clutch in the playoffs.

Him and Sheffield. Brings up the greatest memories, this stuff. Hey, fun show today. Once we're done, Amy Trask, Susie Schuster come out for What the Football. They're going to record with Kurt Warner. Amy just texted from the green room, listening to your baseball discussion, Dodgers World Series memories flooding back. Joe Torrey gave Al tickets, as in imagine Davis. Al gave them to me. Rob, her husband, and I were in Joe's seats, Torrey's seats, when Kirk Gibson hit that home run.

No, wow. Hold on, Amy, get out here and tell that story. Amy Trask in Joe Torrey's seats through Al Davis to watch Kirk Gibson hit the home run.

I still remember. She didn't leave? She didn't leave.

There were no lights. Amy's not the leaving early person. That's amazing. I know Amy. She's not leaving early.

Oh no. I specifically remember that two guys, I'd fallen asleep for a minute and I woke up just as Eckersley was taking the stretch. So I saw him throw the pitch and hit the home run. Obviously, this has been talked about over and over and over again, but just for you millennials out there or anybody who might not know. Gen Z, Rich.

Gen Z, whatever. Dennis Eckersley was truly one of the most unbeatable relievers ever. Wasn't he MVP that year too? He was MVP one year.

Ever. When he came in. And Gibson strolling up there and obviously Vince Scully's calling. Limpin, not strolling. That's right, Limpin. Omar was strolling. Vince Scully's calling. Omar's strolling.

Omar's strolling. She is gone. I mean, man. Could you imagine if you were one of those cars and you knew you were? Oh, we've met people.

Haven't we had people tell the story of being one of those cars? Oh yeah, you left for sure. Because we stayed for an 11 inning one. Growing up as a New Yorker, I made fun of those Los Angeles fans leaving a big time event to beat the traffic. And then I moved out here and I am one of them.

I am totally thinking about Cooper, Zander, Taylor. They know that if we're in Dodger Stadium, we are watching the final out from as far up from the seats as close to an exit as possible. We're watching it from where we are leaving the seats.

We are watching it from some concourse. Honestly, the only time I've ever stayed the full game at Dodger Stadium was when the Red Sox won the World Series. And you just got home. It's the only time I've ever stayed.

Two minutes ago, you just got home. And Eckersley had 45 saves that year. He was unhittable.

That was fun, man. There it is. Look at that. He's on his front foot.

His back leg's in the air. All right, Phil. We're recording now. And please put your phone on silent. Oh, where is my phone? Let's go, man. Get it together over there, player. Go ahead. Pick on me the way that you want to. I would say that to my son. Just go.

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