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Guest host Tom Pelissero breaks down the rookie seasons to date of Chicago Bears QB Caleb Williams and Washington Commanders QB Jayden Daniels, reacts to Joe Burrow putting up MVP-type numbers with the 1-4 Cincinnati Bengals, if it’s time for the Cleveland Browns to move on from struggling QB Deshaun Watson, which NFL coaches, if any, are on the hot seat, what the Dolphins can do to survive during Tua Tagovailoa’s absence, Joe Flacco’s starting status with the Colts, and Daniel Jones’ long-term outlook with the New York Giants.

 

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From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. And that's going to win it. Castellanos has done it. Lamar bobbles a snap, stiff arms a man, slings in the back of the end zone. Touchdown. It's a touchdown to Jan Thomas. Earlier on the show, NFL network insider Ian Rappaport coming up.

Your phone calls, latest news and more. And now sitting in for Rich, it's Tom Pelicero. Welcome back to a Monday edition of a Rich Eisen List show.

I am Tom Pelicero back with the boys in studio right here. We got, there's so much to dig into on, once again, the longest day in NFL history. 15 hours, 27 minutes of football with like 90 minutes of some rain and stuff in there.

A lot of crazy lightning and heavy rains. It was. And then the field actually looked fine.

They do a good job. But that is traditionally one of the worst fields in football, right? Pittsburgh? Yeah. No, it's not.

No, no, no, no, no. They don't let you walk on it before the pregame. They're crazy. You've been on that field for that.

You can't go anywhere. Why am I? Why am I thinking that's one of the worst across the stadium? It's bad for kickers. If you remember the first couple of years, the way the wind would come in because it almost impossible to kick field goals.

But no, but it was, I didn't, I didn't think it was like a sloppy weather. I'm saying back in the day though, that field usually gets pretty beaten up, right? Cause pit plays there. High schools play there. So it gets a lot of usage. I was FaceTime with my daughter last night and she, you know, she was like saying goodnight and I showed her like, oh, I'm waiting for this game.

Look at this here. And she's like, why is that one guy still in the stands? It's when they showed the guy, he's like got a beer and he's soaked. He's like, they told everyone to leave, but I think, I don't think he heard that guy's been pre-gaming all day. He's not leaving at this point in his life. He just hopes he's struck by lightning. That would be an improvement over his current situation.

I would say, I would say this too. One, one big takeaway for me coming off those games was you got some real entertainment value with the young quarterbacks and I can't help, but feeling like the biggest sin that Caleb Williams has committed here in his young NFL career was being in the same draft class as Jayden Daniels. And I'm not even saying that to be Jayden's going to be a star and Caleb's always going to be second fiddle. It's more so, and Daniel Jeremiah put this well on, on NFL network yesterday when he said like, you're seeing steps every week from Caleb Williams, but the other guy hit the ground in a sprint with Jayden Daniels. He's been immediately one of the best players in football.

I talked to him with people on, on Saturday night. Cause I was going to be talking about Caleb on the pregame show. And I like, I know there's been frustration, right? There were, they took seven sacks or whatever in the first game. They're giving up a ton of quick pressure.

They've given up more pressures than almost everybody in the NFL. You can see at times, there's a lot of downfield routes and it doesn't seem like he's got an outlet, but each week you've seen Caleb Williams and that bears offense get better against the Rams. He didn't throw for a whole lot of yards, but he put up like a one Oh six passer rating in that game. He was efficient with the football.

He didn't turn it over. They got a really good defense. They got good special teams. You can play complimentary type football with them or yesterday when you're facing a Panthers defense, that's had more injuries than anybody else.

I mean, they want the Panthers have lost in this young season, Derek Brown, who is their best player on the entire team. Week one suffers a meniscus injury done for the season. Last week, Shaq Thompson gets hurt. He's out Josie jewel hurt and out JC horn got ejected.

Although that was well after the game was out of hand yesterday, Genevieve and clown. He got knocked out of that game in the first quarter. I mean, they are decimated on defense, but the bears thought we're going to have some opportunities to push the ball down the field. They're not coaching him to not take shots. They just want him to be careful with the football, cut out, play a clean game the week before against the Rams. They had four pre snap penalties yesterday.

I didn't see them have one. I didn't watch every second of the game, but it certainly seemed like the operation was better. And then in terms of taking care of the football, that doesn't mean play small ball. It doesn't mean constantly dump the ball down.

They were telling them last week for what I was told, like, Hey, the defense, especially a defense like this with the way they played, they're going to give you some shots, take them, get it and rip it. And you saw that yesterday, the touchdowns that Caleb Williams throws in that game, the one in the back of the end zone, going right to left. I mean, that is a big boy throw.

That is a big time NFL throw. And again, if Jayden Daniels didn't exist, which spoiler alert he does, we'd be talking about, man, Caleb Williams is really fun to watch right now. How many quarterbacks through the years have had, you know, a couple of games, look at the stats, the stats in week five, one of these guys, you referred to Brockman earlier in the show as the surefire rookie of the year. The other guy wasn't even in the conversation, but he's the one who put up the big numbers yesterday.

And once again, didn't turn the football over. I think this is going to be, it's going to be a great storyline for years to come in terms of these two guys here, Caleb Williams is going to be in Chicago for a long, long time. They got to keep working together. They got to keep building an offense that fits him. They've put a lot of pieces around them, different tasks this week.

They got to go to London. They got to play a Jaguars team that again, defensively, they have really, really struggled, but they're going to score more points than the Andy Dalton led Panthers are. Realistically, they're going to put up some points.

Here's Caleb Williams talking after that game yesterday about a Bears win. No, I mean the games even that we lost, we were right there. Most of them were just small details throughout the game that we were missing. And I think after those losses and even after, you know, this, this week and the week before these wins, you know, us, you know, us, us understanding, you know, the leaders and things like that understanding, we got a lot of room to get better.

We got a lot of things that we need to fix. Like this week, I think it was Thursday, we didn't have our best practice offensively. You know, the next day, you know, meters, leaders, you know, met kind of a little bit walking off the field on the offensive side and said, we need to be better tomorrow. We came back the next day, locked in and focused and, and, and, you know, obviously understanding the situation and, and us just pushing each other for that next day. And it led into the game, I think. So like I always talk about the personality and things like that of the team is going to continue to grow, but you know, we're excited.

We understand we got to keep growing and keep progressing, but definitely excited about being three and three and two. Caleb Williams is 22 years old, three years college football. Jane Daniels, I believe played six years of college football on and off.

It was a long college career between a couple of places. He kept getting better through the course of his college career. And we talked about this last week, Jane Daniels coming into the league was just a much more polished pocket player than Caleb Williams for so much of the damage you saw Jayden Daniels do during his Heisman campaign in 2023, was it making plays in rhythm.

He would also run. And at times he would get absolutely destroyed. And that was something he had to get out of his game, but it shouldn't surprise anybody that he's, you know, just throwing absolute dimes down the field. Cause that's what he was by the end of his college career. He can read it and he can put the ball on a dime. Caleb Williams can too. It's just his style of play was very much more the hero style play of get outside the pocket and throw the ball across your body.

And we saw him do that. The in the pocket development is something that was going to take some time. Yesterday was the best game, not just killed Williams plays statistically.

It's the best he's played in the pocket too. So that trajectory, all of a sudden, now the bears again, knowing how other coaches talk about going up against Matt Eberfluss defense, if they can be competent and not a detriment on the offensive side, they're going to be a factor in an NFC that I still believe is pretty wide open right now. I mean the NFC North alone, I know the Vikings are five and no, and I am taking nothing away, even though I guarantee you, there are still people with the Vikings who would like people to continue to think that, Hey, they're going to, they're going to fall apart here because they had that ability to fly under the radar the entire off season.

It's too late. It's too late when you're five and oh, and you've beat the 49ers and the Texans and beat the Packers in Green Bay and then national TV London game, those can get weird. You win kind of a grimy game against the Aaron Rogers jets. I mean, that's what good teams do. They've trailed for what, three minutes, the entire season to this point, the lions though are four and one, and they're a really, really good team.

The Packers. I know that one was a little up and down. I didn't even mention when I was going through the list of weird plays across the NFL, how about the Jordan love interception six, he went full will love us.

He's Tom, right? He's stumbling backwards, never go sidearm underhands it directly to a guy for a picture. I get what he was trying to do. You're trying not to take the safety there, but you got to get the ball out of bounds. That was another just super weird touchdown that we saw across the NFL yesterday, but the entire NFC North right now, that's parallel. That, that reminds me of the Superbowl that was in the COVID year in Tampa and Patrick Mahomes made a throw from like this arm angle when they had a decimated offensive line and he's just running for his life. And he made one throw that was as parallel. It was even more parallel than this.

It's like a short stop going into the hole. This one did not end well for Jordan love, but the game ended just fine. But the entire NFC North right now looks tough. The NFC South we'll see over time, depending which week you could certainly say that, you know, the bucks have looked good at times. The Falcons have had a Mount three game winning drives, but they've mounted a couple of tough ones in primetime games. You know, the NFC West right now, it seems to be anybody's guess who the best team is. They're just, you know, the 49ers have not played that well out of this point in the season. And then in the NFC East, you know, Washington's the team that to this point has looked really, really good, but they've still, you know, they've got a lot of those division games that are left on their docket.

We watched it out of the gate here. Obviously they played the giants in week two. That's the only division game they've played. They haven't played Dallas yet. They have not played Philly yet.

You see a lot of those games are stacked down the stretch. They don't play either of those teams until week 11, mid November, before you see the Eagles or the Cowboys, the giants obviously are playing better at this stage than they were out of the gate. They get a big win yesterday in Seattle, the NFC though, again, if you had to pick a dominant team right now, you'd say it's Minnesota because they're the only team that's beaten the Texans because they beat the Packers on the road and they beat, you know, 49ers team that again, doesn't look great right now.

And they've gone everywhere they've been asked to do and they've done it. The Chiefs will be the next team. We'll see what happens tonight against the Saints. This is a big game for the Saints. Big game.

Two wins out of the gate. The last two weeks, it's not looked the same. The offense has not been as dominant. They've had some key injuries.

Taysom Hill's not going to play in this game. They've gotten a little bit banged up. I had a dream last night that this just, you know, sometimes you just remember your dream way later. This isn't anything too weird, but I dream last night, the Saints traded Chris Alave and then traded for Devontae Adams.

I'm not saying that's going to happen. I'm pretty confident it's not, but that was like, they're not straight up for each other, right? Like deep in the recesses of my brain are like percolating somewhere, but not a one for one, not a one for one, right?

I think it was two different traits. Yeah. Again, it was a dream, but the Saints, this is, this is a big game for them. Are you going to show that you're a real team or are you going to, you know, be on a three game losing skid and have some ground to make up? Also, let's also mention for Devontae Adams is he's looking at these situations here. If all of a sudden your top two options, the Jets and Saints, as Ian pointed out, being the top two, the most likely teams, the teams he wants to go to, the teams with the good quarterbacks, they're both two and three, which is the same record, by the way, as the Raiders, like how are you sorting that out from Devontae Adams standpoint of where he wants to go? The veto power he would possess would be the team that can take on the entire contract without him having to restructure it. If it's anybody who's got to rework the contract, whether the Raiders are paying part of it, which they don't want to do or need to rework it after the fact, or as part of the trade, you have a, you have some complications here because he can simply say, I'm going to go ahead and not do that.

The Jets too. I know we talked about this with Rich, but you're talking about an older quarterback there with Aaron Rogers. There's still a lot of time left in the season, but it does seem like the Aaron Rogers timeframe is moving faster. In other words, you can see with how drained Rogers seems both mentally and physically after a game like that and the body language, which he's, he's always been a bad body language guy, but just the way that he looks on the field, the pain, I mean, look at that, look at every image we've got of him yesterday is him down on the turf.

The, the screams in pain. I mean, the fact that Robert Sala today said all the initial tests confirmed it's just a low ankle sprain and he should be fine to play Monday night in a huge game against the bills. One that will be for a share of first place. He just looks like a guy who knows, I'm not saying he knows this is the final run because he was telling everybody who would listen before the season, two, three types of, you know, he thinks he could be playing our two, three seasons with the Jets. He very much is looking like a player who knows you're getting toward the end at this point. It's one more reason to believe that if the Jets don't make this trade for Devante Adams, Rogers knows he may not be able to single-handedly elevate everybody else around him here. He's done it so many times, but there are limitations on Aaron Rogers right now that did not exist in prior years. And that's a, that's a complicating factor when you're talking about a Jets team that should probably be better than they are right now on defense.

We've seen them have really good efforts. Who knows what's going to happen still with Hassan Redick. He could opt to show up at any time to this point.

He has not done that. Are there any additions they can make on that side of the ball? It's always been tracking toward Devante Adams being, I don't want to say the savior, but being an option to try to elevate them when they need it. And quite possibly if Rogers doesn't get hurt last year, this is all playing that one year ago at this exact same time, but they got work to do, especially because there are teams that to this point have looked better than the Jets who have the same or worse records. So you're not just competing with the teams that are above you in the standings. You're also competing with all those other teams that maybe don't have the wins. Let's say the Bengals that they wanted to or even the Ravens for that matter sitting there at three and two, you've got to be able to get past some of those teams potentially, especially if you don't take care of business in a huge division game come Monday night.

All right, let's take a quick break here. We have to talk more about the Bengals. We haven't even gotten to one of the shootouts of the year with the Ravens and the Bengals. What a game. An MVP candidate on Baltimore.

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Tom Pellicero in once again for Rich coming off week five in the NFL. I want to, Brockman, I'm gonna give you a little quiz here. What do you got, buddy? There's a quarterback. All right, here's the stat line so far this season.

What are we doing? A blind taste test here? Blind taste test. 72.3% completion percentage. That's really good. 12 touchdowns, two interceptions. On the season? On the season.

Wow. 12 touchdowns, two interceptions. Who, sir, is that quarterback?

Do I get a hint? Also has five passes of 40 plus yards. Jeez. Conference. Played on one of the highest scoring teams yesterday in all the games. Oh, that's Joe Burrow, baby.

Joe Burrow. Those numbers right there. MVP. You took those in isolation.

Those are the numbers you would expect to see from somebody who's in the MVP conversation. Oh yeah. He is currently on a one in four Bengals team and after that game was saying things like this. Nope. Don't have it ready.

All right. He was saying things like, I don't have it ready. The Bengals are not ready. Here we go.

He was saying things like this. You know, I don't know what the league stats are, but we're one in four. That's not where we want to be. So obviously something has to change.

I'm not sure what that is on our end. We'll do some critical thinking, watch the tape and see where we could have done better. There's plenty to improve on.

That's no secret. We're not a championship level team right now. We're not. You know, I like to think that we'll come back and improve throughout the season to get to that point.

But right now we are not and we have to get better. So if you're Joe Burrow coming off of that game against the Ravens yesterday, where mind you for as wild as that game was, for as many points as the Bengals gave up, they still are winning that game if not for a mishandled long snap that gets dropped on the ground. The short snap, the field goal in overtime. And Evan McPherson hooks it.

Like you were winning. I mean, the ball literally gets placed as McPherson is inches away from kicking the ball. Did he kick it? Yeah, I was shocked to even got it off. You see it all the time where if the ball's even slightly off, the kicker just bails.

In this case, it was, he decided to swing at it and it wasn't even close. They still win that game. And this is sometimes how a good season can turn bad and worse, which is it's one thing to, okay, week one, you come out and you play totally flat against the Patriots. You deal with Jamar Chase. You don't know until two hours before kickoff is this guy even playing. T Higgins gets hurt during the week. Your whole game plan is messed up.

You come out flat. I think that everybody, as much as it's, it's now amazing in hindsight that the Patriots beat anybody through the course of this season. That week one result is going to go down is like, how in the hell did that happen? You know?

Exactly. Week two, you go and you go to Kansas city. Week three home against Washington. And that's a Jayden Daniels breakout game. You go to Carolina and then you're home against Baltimore.

I mean, that, that's what they've done so far. The only win that in that span was it's the Panthers in Carolina and the, and that's a 10 point win against the team. That's been again, one of the worst teams in the NFL.

You know, I'd love to sit here and say, you can live with a shootout loss to the Ravens knowing how banged up their, their defense is. But at the same time, when Joe Burrow says, we're not a championship level team right now, he's right. And there are just kind of these fundamental breakdowns yesterday happens to be on special teams and they got one of the best special teams coordinators in the league. And they're in Simmons.

They got a really good defensive coordinator Luanna Rumo. At some point, players have to step up and make some plays. And repeatedly yesterday, when it's Lamar almost falling down and then getting up and then stiff arming a guy twice and then throwing the ball across his body to Isaiah, likely it's just, somebody's got to make a play. There's no, there's no, there's no call for that. You don't have the, Hey, this is where Lamar's going to fall down and then get up and then stiff arm Sam Hubbard twice and then throw it across his body. But like, there's no play for that. At some point, the players have to step up.

They are short handed on that side. Bengals are also not a team that historically has gone out and like made big trades or made big free agent acquisitions during the season. Their roster kind of is their roster.

So what writes the ship for the Cincinnati Bengals? I don't have a clear answer to that question other than continue to try to score as many points as possible and do something to shake things up on defense where you can play better. Like, it's, it's easy to sit here and say it, but like you don't watch the Bengals and go, this is one of the worst teams in the NFL, but they have one of the worst records in the NFL. And this is a big time hole to climb out of. Even at a 17 game season, you're one in four at this stage. Like, that's tough to come back from.

Yeah. The Ravens are this close by the way, from falling all the way to oh, and three, they hold off the Cowboys in that game. They will win on three.

And now, you know, you get debates about it. Are the Ravens the best team in football because they've come back and they've win games and they do look really, really dangerous. Like sometimes it's those bounces. It's those individual plays in the course of a long season that can shape where you're at and kind of the entire environment around the team right now, the Ravens go into Dallas and getting that win in week three. I don't want to say that turned the season, but it sure would have looked a lot different if they lose that game. Right.

For sure. They're also, you know, remember the, the toe in week one, the weird ending against the Raiders, they could be undefeated. Same thing with the Bengals. They could easily be three and two. The whole snap goes differently.

The, the pass interference call at the end of the chief's game goes differently. And now suddenly we were thinking about the Bengals as Superbowl contenders. And now you look at the numbers, Cincinnati has a 5% chance of making the playoffs at one and four. Well, what's the percent chance for the Browns to make the playoffs right now?

What's less than zero. It's it doesn't look good. And it's, it's puzzling because you got the two time NFL coach of the year and Kevin Stefanski, who is really, really good at his job and really good from a bringing people together standpoint, overcoming challenges. I mean, his first year is the COVID season. Can't really impart any, it doesn't, doesn't have in-person time to impart a culture misses the playoff game.

Cause he's got COVID my proof. He's got to coach it. And you know, every year, last year, it's, you start four different quarterbacks and you sign Joe Flacco off the couch in like November and you get to the playoffs.

So Kevin Stefanski has pulled them out of ruts before you just watch them right now. You'd like them to be better on defense because you've got one of the best players in the NFL in miles Garrett. You've got Denzel Ward, who dropped out yesterday.

He got banged up at a hamstring injury, but you've got, you got dudes on that side. You'd like them to be better offensively. Everything just looks hard.

It looks like every yard they get is difficult and it's not all into Sean Watson. Here's what Kevin Stefanski had to say yesterday when he was asked by the media, whether or not potentially there could be a quarterback change. Yeah.

I'm always thinking about not putting him in harm's way. Did you consider a change before that? No. I mean, yeah, obviously in that fourth quarter, you know, we discussed it.

Given the struggles of how much Yeah. We're not changing quarterbacks. Uh, we need to play better.

Uh, I need to coach better. Um, and that's really what it is. So pretty unambiguous there from Kevin Stefanski, the Browns as an organization are tied fully guaranteed to Deshaun Wasser 2026. It's also, and I don't mean to minimize this 92 million is a lot, but it's not end of the world money. In other words, at some point here, if you decide we've got to move on and we got to cut bait, I mean, the Broncos are paying Russell Wilson, not 92 million, but a lot of money to not play football for them. He's not playing football anywhere, but the Steelers aren't paying him much. Broncos are paying.

Not yet could change very, very soon. Uh, but the Broncos are paying most of the salary. At some point you get into a place where potentially you're throwing good money after bad. It's it's the old Ron Wolf saying of you're always better at medium mistake too soon than not too soon enough.

Don't double down and compound the air. But I don't watch legitimately. I don't watch that game yesterday and go, this is all a Deshaun Watson problem. There's clear offensive line issues. I think they gave up what seven sacks yesterday. So he's under constant arrest.

Yes. They haven't had Jack Conklin most of the season. Jedrick Wilson played yesterday, but he's missed a bunch of time.

Why a teller has been out? I mean, they've been really banged up along the offensive line. And when Deshaun Watson does make a throw and puts one right on Jerry Judy in the end zone, which at least could give you like a spark where you feel like we've got a chance in the game. So I think they were down three touchdowns at that point. Jerry Judy, for some reason, tries to catch the ball this way into his body, as opposed to just putting his hands up and catching the ball.

It's a drop. And then comes the entire bizarre situation where they want to go forward on fourth down, which I think that was the second down played in through and complete on third, fourth down. There's memes going around that Deshaun Watson just walked out the field. Well, I got a field cause there's 12 men in the huddle.

There's 12 men out there. So we either got to burn a second time out in that sequence or just take the delay game penalty and kick a field goal. That's the stuff that's happening right now in Cleveland. They haven't had Nick Chubb.

That's a really big deal. You're trying to generate some type of a running game. It really hasn't happened, but you'd like to get more out of Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper doesn't look the same right now.

Not physically. It just doesn't seem like he's the same guy right now. Is that a function and a product of Amari Cooper was floated in trade talks and it became public. And he knew that they were willing to trade him to San Francisco in a Brandon, a youth deal.

Maybe it's possible. He's also a guy in a contract year. He got some incentives added to his contract.

Would have liked to add more guaranteed money. Now he's playing on a Brown's team that appears to be going nowhere. He's had some issues too with hauling in the football. So far, the whole thing just looks hard for the Browns. And again, they've pulled out of these types of ruts before, but look at their next few games here. They go to Philadelphia in week six, the Eagles are going to be coming off of a buy at that point. You got to host the Bengals, you got to host the Bengals, which as we just documented here, the Bengals record is terrible. The team is not, the team has found creative ways to lose games so far this season. And then you take on the Ravens.

I mean, that's, that's your stretch. This can't tell you the season to say nothing to the fact that you got the Jim Harbaugh chargers coming in in week nine, these next three, four games before your buy are going to define. Do you have a chance to once again, pull yourself out of this rut, or are you going to be circling the drain before the trade deadline and then potentially going, okay, Amari Elijah Moore, the people call about some of the key guys that they've got on defense.

This is a Darrius Smiths of the world. I cannot imagine there's a world in which they trade miles Garrett, but you're getting calls on everybody. If you're sitting there with six, seven, eight losses prior to the trade deadline, it just, it looks difficult right now. And you know, to the extent that Deshaun Watson is still reviled by a lot of people around the country for a lot of different reasons. One in particular, you're not catching any slack publicly or from the media. When the Deshaun Watson, you traded all that to get and gave him a five year, $230 million contract.

That guy still has not shown up at least not shown up for any extended stretch through the course of his career. Brockman there's, there's so much out of week. What else do you need to know? I need to know, okay, right away. I need to know who are we looking at right now? Who's on Belicheck watch as we finish week five.

I don't, here's the thing, and this has come up too. When we're planning out the NFL network shows, I don't know that you sit there and go. Anybody's on the hot seat right now. Really head coaching wise, not Zach Taylor, not Zach Taylor. I mean, the Bengals don't fire people. I know people keep saying that, but he's an old man who probably would like to win at some point. Marvin Lewis missed the playoffs like four years in a row and got a contract extension.

That was a decade ago. They don't fire people in Cincinnati. But you can imagine Joe Burrow with Bill and I'm sure Josh McDaniels comes, what that offense could look like, right? I mean, potentially the offense is pretty good. That's the least of the concerns right now.

I mean, they're pretty good. I imagine Bill fixes that defense pretty quick. You would, you would hope that he would have a very positive influence on the defense, but I don't think Lou Anna Rummel is the problem. Who are you relying on on that Bengals defense? Trey Hendrickson, who's been banged up a little bit through the course of the season.

Sam Hubbard, who said last week he's still playing through some type of injury. You've lost all your D tackles. You just lost Dax Hill who had finally, a former first-round pick, who finally seemed to find his role in that defense.

They were never really good at the corner position. Jesse Bates was one of your high picks and your franchise guys now making plays for the Atlanta Falcons. Like who are the guys you're relying on on the defense?

It's hard. With regard to, you know, hot seat stuff, I would allow you to, that the Jaguars had lost again. You'd say Doug Peterson's, you know, in a lot of trouble as they go to London, but at one and four, you finally put together a four quarter game, which had been the issue outside of the Buffalo game. They've not been bad. I just don't think there's anybody who it's, if they lose this week, they're fired.

We're not to that point. There's a lot of those situations, a lot of the teams that have seemed to have underachieved through the course of this season that eventually are going to be there. But five games in, I don't think that there's anybody who you look at and you say, if next week is bad, they're out of a job.

Yeah. There's a lot of parity. I mean, there's only what, seven teams that have one win.

So there's a lot of teams kind of still, still in the mix. Let's talk about, to a Miami got a win over the weekend somehow in new England. Not pretty, a really important win. I know that it's a 15, 10 win. It was one of the worst games I've ever seen.

How did they even get 15? Like what happened that they got really bad. It was not a pretty game. They still didn't, you know, produce at a high level offensively, but they, they avoided the big mistakes that they had the previous week that cost them in the Seattle game. They needed to show that they could just go win a football game. Tyreek played better. He almost gets his feet down on that touchdown, which would have made the final score look a lot better, but he played better.

They seem to get the running game going a little bit, even though they lost Devon, a Chan they're going into a buy, I believe this week, right there on their by this week. Then they come out of that and they're at Indianapolis. And that would potentially be the last game before Tua is eligible to come back. What the dolphins needed to do was find a way ideally to get two wins, but at least one win to just survive until Tua gets back because Snoop Ali it's two starts.

He got better from the first one to the second one. But realistically, like you're not, you know, this is a backup quarterback, almost any back of quarterback in the league. You're just thinking, can we go 500 until the other guy gets back? Can we just stay afloat in games like yesterday, as much as you can say, there's no style points and they were playing one of the least talented teams in the NFL.

It still counts and being two and three right now is a hell of a lot better than being one and four. So if you can beat the Colts, you go to three and three and then get to a bag, even if you lose and you go to two and four, if Tua is back and there's still steps that he's got to go through here in terms of the protocol, in terms of his doctors, he's been on the sideline. He's been in all the meetings. He's had the earpiece and he's approaching this like he intends to play. If he's able to get back by mid season, we've seen what he's done in the offense. He clearly can't take another head hit again, not this season, or that's probably going to be shut down for the rest of the season. But if he on medical advice and after getting cleared by an independent or all just, he decides to get back onto the field. He's still a really, really good quarterback who plainly allows them to do something offensively that none of these other guys do. Does Joe Flacco start next week in Tennessee?

That is going to be, and we're talking about this with Rappaport, partly a medical question. Anthony Richardson has, he's got abdominal and oblique strains, which if you've ever felt that and probably try to play golf Brockman, like it's hard now, now you're a 250 pound quarterback. Who's going to be asked to run as well as throw and torque your body doing that stuff.

It's it's a challenging one. The fact that they listed him as doubtful, not out for the game suggests based on the letter of the rule, but also just pure logic that if this were the Super Bowl, Anthony Richardson could have gone out there. They just decided, Hey, he hasn't practiced. He's a young quarterback. Let's hold him back this week.

How he is feeling physically is certainly going to be a factor in when he gets back onto the field. I do not anticipate based on the level of capital that they invested in Anthony Richardson and knowing what this guy needs more than anything else is to go out and play games. I don't anticipate this is a, a Carolina type situation where, Hey, you're two with Anthony Richardson. It's just not good enough. We're playing Flacco. I don't think we're there yet. We get down later in the season and Richardson's turning the ball over, whatever it might be.

Maybe you get there. He has had a lot of turnovers. Once he got six picks this year, he's turned the ball over too much, but he doesn't play a lot of football. The upside with Anthony Richardson is still higher than the upside with Joe Flacco, even though Joe Flacco ran yesterday, like you'd hope Anthony Richardson would the upside is still there. And you got to invest the time in it with Anthony Richardson. I would anticipate if he's healthy enough to go, if he's feeling good, if he's able to practice above all else, that they'll go back to him this week. Wow.

Okay. Last one before the break, Daniel Jones, is he doing enough to save his gig for 2025? I think that it's very early to say it.

I think this is much more 2022. Daniel Jones week one was bad, but it was also the first game coming off the ACL since then. We even week two, he played a lot better. You've seen him grow and get better over these past few games.

Daniel Jones is what he is. Is he ever going to be a top 10 quarterback in the NFL? I would say probably not, but can he be a 11 to 20 starter sufficient, good athlete, good arm, big dude who can extend plays. He can make some throws when he needs to. Yeah.

I mean that that's him. And they won yesterday without his starting running back. And one of the top rookies in the NFL, a guy who's already probably a top 20 receiver in the NFL, in Malik neighbors. Is, is Daniel Jones doing enough to keep the giants in the mix? If he plays like he did yesterday, I would say yes.

But even if they get to, even if they're, let's say a nine, 10 win team, that doesn't necessarily say anything about 2025. He has no guarantees left after the season. He's getting paid.

I believe he's doing 40 million that he's making fully guaranteed this season. They're going to have some choices to make. The question may not be, is Daniel Jones doing enough to save his job in 2025? The question by the end of this season, maybe is Daniel Jones doing enough that the giants don't feel like they also need to draft somebody high or pursue other veteran options. In addition to Daniel Jones being there, he's got a big number in 2025. They have to make a choice at some point on Daniel Jones. It it's still early, but this is, this is the guy that they were willing to pay. They were hoping there wasn't gonna be another major injury in between, which is what happened last season.

But this is the guy who they thought, Hey, we won with him in 2022. We can do it again. Let's see what they're able to do here in the coming weeks. Let's let's take another break here. Let's wrap up week, week five across the NFL. We still got a game tonight too. Yeah, buddy. Chief Saints. I also still want to talk about maybe the greatest post-game interview I've ever seen.

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No, I just looked up to see if anyone was paying attention. I'm just ready. I'm always ready. I was waiting for the who at the end, you know, because the Bulls used to do that. What time is it? Game time.

There you go. It's probably some Bills fans who wish they had missed out on game time yesterday, at least with the way that thing ended. It was a fun game to watch, by the way. I saw most of that one. And for a long time, you got that sense that the Bills were going to find a way to pull it out, even though the entire thing was a little bit uneven, you know, throughout the course of the game. You get down to it. And there's a sequence at the end of that game that, well, Sean McDermott was asked about after the game.

Let's play his explanation. You know, it's on me that the end of game situation on offense, we needed two, or a tough situation, three timeouts. They were holding three timeouts. I got a good field goal kicker. We needed to run the clock and move the chains.

And that's on me. We didn't do that there, and that's my fault. There's something to the idea, though, that if it's going to go one way or have it go one way or the other, it was 17 with the ball in his hands.

I love Josh with the ball in his hands. You know, I do. And, you know, again, efficient offense was the right approach there. And I didn't have us do that. And, you know, so again, we learned from that. Tough situation. You know, they're holding three timeouts. Like I said, they get a good field goal kicker and, you know, you go back and forth, you know, and, hey, probably, I probably should have run it on the first play and just said, hey, where are we now? Either way, we're probably going to have to move the chains one time, right, to not give them a chance.

But again, those are, those are situations and that's on me. In watching it live, and I'll give you the scenario here real quick for people who didn't see it. 32 seconds left in regulation. The teams are tied at 20. The Texans had just punted the ball, pinned the bills at their own three yard line. So you've got 32 seconds tie game. Texans still have all three of their timeouts. So what Sean McDermott is describing here is they needed a first down. Otherwise, if you just run the ball into the line three straight times, then the Texans are going to call those three timeouts. And they're probably going to get the ball back with, let's call it 15 to 18 seconds, right? So they come out throwing because what's the difference if you're going to throw once you can throw three times, because it's not like the Texans are going to use three timeouts in the final 32 seconds of the game. So that bar doesn't matter.

Right. I actually liked the idea of it because the balls, they're not running, you know, extended things where you can run the risk of a safety or anything like that. I was surprised just by the nature of the throws.

Like, here's the thing, if you're going to throw the throws, like here's, here's the game, like the game log, right? From the official, the official score book, first down and 10 Josh Allen pass incomplete deep left to Keon Coleman. Second down, Josh Allen passing complete deep left to Mac college. Third down Josh Allen pass incomplete deep middle to Curtis Samuel. There's not one high percentage pass in that group, including the first down pass, which is like a jump ball basically to a rookie wide receiver. Now I don't, I don't know enough about it to say, what is Joe Brady calling in those situations? What's the first read the second read you see one-on-one you think your guy's a mismatch, take a shot, but these were not again, high percentage types of passes here. So you end up throwing three passes.

None of them are complete. You don't move the change. You don't give your punter a little bit extra room in the back of the end zone. You don't, you know, there's not a three yard pass. There's not a smoke screen like, Hey, throw it out there. They're going to probably play soft on the edges, right?

I get it. They're they're they're stuffing against the run. They think you're going to run it. So get the ball to the perimeter, but how about a quick pass?

There's a lot of different things that you could do. That was the only surprise to me in that scenario. I do actually like, and of course the Texans get the ball back. They run one play and Tommy Fairbair and it's 59 yard field goal. Cause that's one of the things that happens in the NFL. No, another thing that happens in the NFL now that I kind of dig is there are no rules. Once upon a time you would get into a situation like this and everyone on earth would just go, you got to run it, just run, just run the ball three times, run that clock, right up the middle. Now, I think because you have the analytics aspect of this that suggests first down passing is more efficient in a lot of cases than first down running.

And because you've got different ways that the numbers people are looking at end of game scenarios, it has led to this more progressive. And I would say at times exciting style of coaching where whatever you thought you knew about how teams are supposed to close games out has evolved. At least in certain coaches minds, you saw with Kevin O'Connell back in the Packers game where they've got a big lead. They're still throwing the ball all over the field. Kevin O'Connell by the way, yesterday, one of my favorite moments in the, in the Vikings jets game was I think it's third and four, Sam Darnold has just gone down both starting quarterbacks in that game, went down with injuries where you're like, Oh crap, this is going to be bad. In the case of Sam Darnold, he comes back after missing one or two snaps. I think it was one, but it's a third and four.

O'Connell has Nick Mullins drop back and throw a 50 50 ball down the field. Who cares? Big Nick. Go for it. Just you're going to trust me. I liked it.

I liked the rich. You said big Nick just, you know, made it, made it a two word name. I don't think anyone calls him that. But so he, you know, but you know, drop back, like go and make the aggressive play. And that's, that's something that I always go back to. And in a conversation with Kyle Shannon years ago, which is if you know, the right thing to call the right play, call the right game situation, call that thing. Don't go with what's going to get you criticized less boy. I could throw the ball here, but I know that if it doesn't work, everyone's going to say tomorrow, why didn't you run it?

And I'm going to catch more flack for that. I actually like, as long as you're not doing something that goes completely against all the numbers. I actually like the idea of we've got to approach this end of game situation at times more aggressively than you would in the past. We see more teams now in backup situations prior to halftime, throw the ball, just go for it because the modern NFL is a points race. You need to be able to score. And so the idea that you're going to play small ball all the time, same thing with the bears yesterday, they got a defensive head coach, Matt Eberfluss, they're believers in, if we play good defense, like they know they can play good on special teams and don't turn the ball over.

We will win a lot of games, but also Caleb, if you've got that one-on-one we talked about during the week in practice and you see it, rip it, no hesitation, go for it. And there has to be some level of a balance. I'm not saying defense doesn't matter. And we'll see that repeatedly. I'm sure over the course of the season, there'll be teams that win the defensive slugfests at times it's, you know, the dolphins winning a 15 to 10 game mainly because the other team's offense is so bad, but you have to be, I think at times maybe more aggressive than we've seen people be in the past. Sean McDermott did it.

It didn't work out in that instance. Thanks everybody for watching the show. I am back in again for Rich tomorrow, breaking down Monday night football and a lot more. See you then you met Lala Kent on Vanderpump doesn't pay bills ocean. Watch what Lala is talking about on YouTube or search for give them Lala wherever you listen.
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