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There's a Roku Sports Channel that we're on right now just seeing a replay on NFL Network of last night's Amazon Prime game. And just seeing Joe Burrow with his M&M lid. It's a little jarring. I'm not going to lie.
Hi, my name is... It's just jarring. There he is right there on the sideline talking to Al. I wonder if he keeps it for the whole year.
And Herb Street. I hope he does. It's just great to see him back. I just want to see everybody full strength, ready to go.
Two weeks from today, we'll already have a result. It's awesome. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson.
In your spot, DJ Mikey D is in these nuts as well as Suzy Schuster sitting in for Chris Brockman. Good to see you, Suze, for our number two of this program. Good to be.
You got it. And joining us right here on the Rich Eisen Show is a dear friend back here on the program, Sports Illustrated's own Albert Breer. Good to see you, Albert. How are you, sir? I'm good. How are you doing, Rich? I'm great. Everything good in your neighborhood right here?
Everything's great. We got college football this weekend, right? That's right. I can't believe how close it is. It's like my camp trip is done now in less than two weeks, right?
Yeah. Till Ravens Chiefs. I think two weeks from now is going to be Eagles-Packers in Brazil. Are you going to be at the kickoff?
You going to KC? I'm not positive on that yet. Okay.
Still TBD. Okay. But I will be watching, of course, either way. Well, we're bringing the show there. The only reason why I asked is- Oh, you are? Yeah.
Yeah. Obviously, you got a spot on our show. And I just want to see you in person to see how long does the training camp tan last?
How long does it- Is it still here? I think it's fading a little bit. Don't you? No, no, no.
No, not at all. I could see that. Okay.
Although, I don't know. It matches all the scarlet behind you. Yeah.
So I think it kind of clashes with the scarlet. I'm not that red. I'm not that red.
But I cheated a little bit this year, too, with my nine-year-old's football practices have gotten me outside a bunch, too, when I'm not on the road. Fantastic. So I'm still... Hopefully, I can hold on to this for a little while longer. Still, you've got youthful glow, so soon you'll have the scarlet and then the gray on top of your hair.
You'll get the whole thing. But you were at Jets training camp this week, correct? Yep. On Mondays. That was your last one? That was your last sort of check-in visit? It was one of my... It was the last swing, so I did Jets Monday, Giants Tuesday, and then I was with the Bucks and Dolphins.
They practiced together on Wednesday. All right. So let's take them in order. What did you glean from the Jets, Albert?
Yeah. You know, a couple things. Number one, it's interesting the first thing that everybody I talked to brought up was the offensive line and how good the offensive line looks, which to me is just about as important as anything.
And I know you're going to have Quinnen Williams on in your next segment, right? It'd be interesting to hear from him about what he's noticed because he had to go up against those guys in practice day-to-day. They have what they view as three starting tackles in Tyron Smith, Morgan Moses, and Olu Feshana, who's been great and could start at left tackle today if they needed him to. And then two backups that played a lot last year. So they feel like they've got five legitimate NFL tackles, which is way better than it was last year. And then the interior of their line, Joe Tippmann in his second year, and then Oli Veritucker and John Simpson coming over from the Ravens. So I think the fact that they've overinvested in the offensive line has certainly paid dividends. And going up against a defensive line that has, I'm not misspeaking here, seven former first-round picks on it really has created an ideal situation in camp for them.
So I don't want to get you too excited here. I kind of got the feel going there that they're where the Bucs were when they got Brady. That's sort of where the roster is. It's ready to go, and it doesn't need a quarterback to be a superhero. So Aaron Rodgers won't need to be a superhero for them to compete week to week, which is ideal for any quarterback. And then I got a lot of time on Monday. I had a bunch of time with Aaron Rodgers.
And I will just say this. I think he is more appreciative of the chance to play football. And he and I had a really interesting conversation about how there was a point in his life when he was really kind of caught up in trying to prove to everybody that his life is more than just football and that he's not just a football player.
And it was just interesting talking to a guy at 40 years old who obviously the end is much closer than the beginning. Talk about how much he's appreciated about every bit of the process coming off of the Achilles and how he really wants to relish what he's got here and how cool it is to be a football player. Not that he's not more than a football player, but just how cool it is to be a football player. So it just seems like he's in a really good spot, Rich. Just talking to people there.
And based on the improvements they made on the offensive line, I'd be surprised if he doesn't kill it this year. So how did you glean that, though? What are you willing to share with all of us here, Albert, for you to come away to say that he's more appreciative of being a football player than, say, the last couple of years when he has been talking in many different media outlets, including our buddy McAfee, about things outside of football? What made you pick up on that? Did he literally say those words to you?
He flat-out said it to me, yeah. I think that there's just going through what he went through. Obviously age is part of that, too, but going through what he went through and having it taken away from you. And when you're around the team, and I'm sure you've heard pro athletes say this, I certainly have over the course of my career covering them, Rich, that for an athlete when you're hurt and you can't do anything to help the team, you almost feel like this, even if you're around them, this disconnection, that there's nothing you can do about. And I just think it's all of that that really has made him appreciate what's in front of him and appreciate the shot that he's got in front of him to go and win a Super Bowl and go and do something that no one's done for that franchise in half a century.
And then the guys that he has around him, too, and the team that he has around him and the shot that they all have collectively. It was interesting because we had a part of our conversation, I had mentioned to him that what I had always heard about Tom and Brady, I think Brady has sort of confirmed this to me in the past, too, that most guys don't fall out of love with Sunday when they retire. They fall out of love with Monday through Saturday.
They fall out of love with having to run up a hill in March, you know what I mean? So I think the one thing that was interesting talking to Aaron about this was that he was like, I loved all of that this year. I loved getting ready for the season. I loved being around my teammates and OTAs.
I loved training camp, even mundane as it can be, I loved every part of it. And not that he didn't always really like those parts, but I think that part's my perception of it. But I do think part of that appreciation, again, is just having it snatched away from you. Especially when a guy gets injured at that age, I think that your football mortality slaps you in the face.
And you're not going to have this forever. And so just having the ability to appreciate every part of it. He hasn't played in a game yet. He hasn't played in a regular season game since tearing his Achilles, but having a real appreciation for every part of it, it was just really cool listening to him talk about that.
Sports Illustrated's Albert Brier here on The Rich Eisen Show. OK, so then you saw the Giants as well, which means you were there just after Daniel Jones had his dreadful appearance. It wasn't all, I mean, listen, there's always ups and downs, but throwing that pick six, it was just, wow, is that what we're going to see from him this year? What did you glean from Dayball and the Giants when you saw them this week? Well, first of all, no one sugarcoated that play. That play was not a good play.
No one was saying that it was anything but what it looked like. So that's number one. I do think there's a couple of things to consider with Daniel Jones, though. He's only nine months post-op, and so he's back, but there's still some things that you're working through when you're at that point in the recovery. They say it takes a full year, so they're trying to accelerate him and ramp him up and get him ready for the season, but there's that part of it. There's another part of it that I don't know that this has been out there quite as much, but I thought it was interesting, too, and I think this is always interesting when you're talking about how to assess how guys are playing in training camp. Brian Dayball is trying to coach him to be more aggressive, and they want him to be more aggressive. Part of that is the presence of Malik Nabors in his receiver group now, but they want him to take chances.
They want him to test himself. If you're going to do that, if you're going to get yourself ready to play in the regular season that way, well, then you're going to have to live through mistakes in training camp. You're going to have to live through mistakes in preseason games.
That's the only way you're going to figure out how to be more aggressive. As they've really coached him on trying to become more aggressive, mistakes have come, and a lot of good things have come, too. I think that's part of the problem I have with all these aggregation accounts on Twitter and everything else, Rich, is they take single plays or a group of three plays and act as if the season's over or the season's made. The reality is we can't climb in every one of these guys' heads, and every one of these guys has different goals for training camp. Now with the guy who's trying to make the team, we know what he's trying to do. So if you're a rookie or you're a third-year guy who someone's been drafted to replace you, you don't have room to make mistakes.
You have to put your best foot forward, and it should look good every day. If you're a veteran and your coach is telling you, no, we want you to do this, like when I saw Brock Purdy, it was the same thing with him in San Francisco. He threw four picks the day I was there, and he explained to me after, he's like, I'm trying to test my limits. We don't know what the individual goals each of these guys have for every practice is.
We don't know what the individual goals these guys have for the preseason games are. So a lot of times what you see on the surface isn't what it appears to be. And so it takes talking to these guys, and I think that's really a huge part of our job, is talking to these guys and figuring out what they're trying to accomplish. And there are times when they'll say, no, that was just stupid.
I shouldn't have done that. But there are other times where it's like, I wanted to see if I could make that throw. And it's a big part of training camp, and I know it's been part of Daniel Jones's training camp.
Again, I'm not saying he's going to be all pro or anything like that, but I think there is part of it that relates to the injury that's hampered his performance a little bit. And then there is an element of testing himself in different ways where I think you'll see some of the things that you saw in camp erased in that regard. Debo going to call the place?
Is he going to do it? Yes. Yeah, it sounds like it. I think what's interesting about that, too, is the primary area where they need a fix is the same as the Jets.
Right? It's the offensive line. Everybody saw that in the Hard Knocks series. That was a big piece of their offseason, obviously, adding Greg Van Roten and Jermaine Illuminore and John Runyon to their offensive line. And now we'll see what they can get out of Evan Neal. Well, another big piece of that was going and hiring Carmen Brasillo as their offensive line coach. And this is an under the radar hire, but it's an important one because Carmen Brasillo has New England background. He coached for Bill Belichick.
He coached for Josh McDaniels in Vegas. His background is Brian Daybal's background. And so they feel like they're going to be able to kind of streamline the offense a little bit and bring it back to what Brian Daybal knows best and what Brian Daybal has done best over the years. And that's always allowed Daybal to get the most out of the players that he's with.
And so I'm interested to see how this whole thing comes together. But after a couple of years ago, we heard all about how Daybal had gone outside his coaching tree to hire Mike Kafka, who's fantastic, and hire Wink Martindale and go all over the place to find all of these guys. You look at some of the hires he made this offseason, right?
Yes. And they have similar background to him, right? Carmen Brasillo is one. Shane Bowen, their new defensive coordinator, is another. He came under Mike Vrabel, who, of course, is another guy with Patriot background.
So it's sort of interesting that way and how they set that up. Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen Show. You said you were at the Dolphins-Bucks practice, joint practice together. Were you there when the Tua comments about Brian Flores came out?
A little bit after. Yeah. So what was the conversation about that then? I think it's just Tua. When I asked people about it, it was interesting, it was like, that's Tua to a fault. He's just honest. And if you ask him, especially in a setting like that, that Dan and the guys had him in, you're going to get an honest answer. And I don't know how often he's been asked about Flores, because they played so well the last couple of years, because he personally has done so well and obviously has had some other things going on with the concussions and everything else.
I don't know that anybody's really been diving into it the way that they did on the Levitard Show. But I think it's just sort of his honest truth. And what's really interesting about it to me is, we talk about this stuff being generational and everything else.
Do people forget what program Tua came from, who he played for college? Exactly. That's the whole thing.
Anybody who's sitting here saying he can't take tough coaching, it's just like, get out of here. But it's obvious that Flores never wanted him, right? I mean, this now confirms it, right? And I think that's part of the problem, right? So part of the problem is that Flo and there was some disagreement, and obviously it was close on who they were picking there, Tua or Herbert.
And I think some of this could be harboring some of that. I also think part of it's where Brian Flores had been and how he coached guys in the past and how he'd seen guys coach in the past. It's legendary the way Bill Belichick coached Tom Brady, right? And Belichick's philosophy had always been, you coach the best players the hardest, and then everybody else falls in line.
It's just sort of the way it is. And so that's how Brian Flores coached Tua. I think one thing that's interesting though here, and this part is generational, is how I think Nick Saban doesn't get credit for tailoring his coaching to the individual players and what the individual players need. And I think the best guys do that, and I think that's one thing that Brian Flores has learned from going through this, and I think he's learned a lot from going through this, because he's always been a guy who's been loved by the players, right?
Except for the Miami thing, ask Devin McCourty about him, ask Kyle Van Nooy about him, ask Dante Hightower about him, ask the guys in Minnesota now, guys like Harrison Smith about him, right? But defenses, defensive players are different than quarterbacks, man. And that's the thing, and that's the lesson, right?
So that's the lesson. And here, I'll give you a really, really interesting story on CJ Stroud that I think explains this to a T, right? So like last year, when the Texans were looking at who they were going to take second overall, Bobby Sloake, their offensive coordinator, got after CJ Stroud in the 30 visit pretty good. And CJ kind of shut down, and it was a way of testing him, and this happens a lot, right? So he shut down, and I heard about that, and that's the reason why I didn't mock Stroud to the Texans. So then afterwards, I circled back, and I kind of dug in a little bit more and tried to figure out what happened. And it turns out, D'Amico Ryans and Nick Casario then went back to the people at Ohio State and asked them about CJ and said, well, this kid's been through a lot in his life, so he's not going to react to a football coach who he doesn't know teaching him that and coaching him that intensely.
You have to earn his trust. And not only did that get them to dig in more and wind up taking CJ Stroud, it also informed the way they coached CJ Stroud when they got him. And you think about that, right? What a great testament to the Texans organization that is, is that they set something up that didn't work for the player. They went and doubled back and checked into it again. And then the lessons they learned not only wound up putting them in a position to draft the guy, but then informed the way that they're teaching him going forward.
I thought it was fascinating. And I think that that's sort of the lesson you can learn from these situations, is that D'Amico and Bobby came from a very tough system in San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan coaches really hard, right? But you learn how to package it a little differently for every player. And I think that that's what's interesting about what Mike McDaniel is doing in Miami as well. And I know I'm being long-winded here.
So I'm sorry about that. Mike McDaniel is demanding as hell as a coach, but he packages it a little differently for every player. And those players know he has their back. And so I think that that's probably a lesson that Flores takes from it. I think Flores is a fantastic coach. People forget his last two years there, they won 19 games. That's one less than Mike McDaniel's won the last two years following Flores in Miami. So it's not like Flores wasn't a really good head coach. He did plenty of good there. But with maybe the most important relationship in the building, he failed. And it's my feeling at least that he's learned a lot from it.
Yeah. These, not these quarterbacks, quarterbacks and certainly this generation of players, there's an operation manual. And it seems like McDaniel had it better for Tua than Flores did. And clearly D'Amico Ryans and the rest of the Texans found the operation manual for C.J. Stroud and it led to a unicorn season.
I mean, and I appreciate you lending that perspective. And the few minutes I have left with you, what is going on with these wide receiver contracts? And I imagine next week is the stroke of midnight here, right? You got to get these guys in a week from Monday. You got to get them.
You got to get them in. Right. I mean, you can't just say like, well, let's go over the last couple of years, though. T.J. Watt was what?
The Saturday. Correct. But our defense guys who go hunt are different than the ones who need time. One would think, right.
And yeah, I think T.J. Watt, Nick Bosa were right before the season. But yeah, I get you. I get what you're saying.
I think they'd like to get them in as soon as possible, obviously. Things have gotten really quiet on Brandon and Iyuk. And that, to me, is fascinating that we've been through so much and there was so much noise. And now things have been quiet for a while, tells me that things are improving there.
And I think as much as anything, this is about bridging the personal gap on some of the things that happen and some of the things on the way things were handled over the course of the last couple of months. You know, I think John Lynch and Perag Murat and Kyle Shanahan deserve credit for handling this the way that they did and that when the temperature got turned up, they sought closure on it. So they basically said to Brandon and Iyuk, if you think you can find a better financial and football situation than we offer you, go get it.
Let's see if you can find it. Goes to New England. The financial situation, they had two offers on the table for him, both of them over thirty million dollars a year. Football situation wasn't nearly as good. He wasn't as interested, wasn't real interested in going to Cleveland, Pittsburgh. He has a rapport with Mike Tomlin. The football situation is pretty good.
The money wasn't much different than San Francisco's. So ultimately doing that pushed Iyuk back to the table. And we'll see what happens. I think a key nuance to this one too, Rich, if they're going to pay Brock Purdy next year, who is the answer as a skill position player for the next five years? Deebo is awfully beat up. Christian McCaffrey, I think you look at the mileage on his legs, he's been a unicorn as a football player and performing as much as he has with the workload he's taken on. But he's not forever either. And then George Kittle's in his thirties.
So Iyuk is the guy you want to pair with Purdy long term. Lamb I think gets done because I think the Cowboys are getting closer to the neighborhood where this sort of thing needs to be. And Jefferson's obviously the standard now.
The question is whether or not he's an outlier. And so, you know, like that gap between what Jalen Waddle and Devante Smith and Nikko Collins and Amenrah St. Brown got and Jefferson got, that's what has made this more difficult. So how close are you getting Lamb to Jefferson? And then that relates to Jamar Chase too, where Chase and Jefferson obviously were in touch over the course of the offseason. So Chase knows exactly how things went with Minnesota and Jefferson.
And he wants to be on that plateau. And I think for the Bengals, because things have been awfully quiet there, there hasn't been a lot of back and forth between the sides. I think for Chase, who has been professional through this whole thing, like the people there have told me he's been in meetings, he's helping the young receivers, he's just not practicing. I think for Chase, it's all right, like, let's see if Jefferson's really the outlier. I actually think if Lamb gets close to what Jefferson got, that actually might push a deal over the goal line, because at that point, the Bengals have nowhere to go. You know what I mean?
There's no more argument left. Like, now there are two guys right up there, and you got to get a deal done, and it's going to be a lot more costly to do it six months from now. Remember too, the Bengals did burrow right before the year last year.
I think it was two or three days before the opener. So it's not like they haven't been down this road with a star player recently. But he was going to be at least under contract and play, and the same thing with Dak this year.
So that's the last one I have for you. That midnight can strike literally in a Cleveland hotel room the night before the season opener with Dak. Does that happen, do you think, Albert? So the Cowboys have been principled on this one, and I think that there's this feeling of like, do we just have to leapfrog everybody else? And obviously, the Joneses have the context of having done this for a long time. And you can remember, what is this, probably almost 10 years ago now, where Stafford, Carr, Garoppolo, Luck, they all were leapfrogging each other.
Matt Ryan was part of that, Aaron Rodgers at the end. So do you just leapfrog the number that burrow's at? What does the structure look like? What does the guarantees look like? Because burrow's deal is a stronger deal than Lawrence or Love. It's just, with the guarantees and structure, it's just a better deal, and it should be. He's been to a Super Bowl.
So this one is a little complicated that way. That said, I think if you look at the history of the Cowboys, there's like huffing and puffing all the way to the finish line, and then they wind up paying their guys at the top of the market. It's just true, right? It happened before with Dak. It happened with Zeke Elliott. It happened with Zach Martin. It's happened so many times. It might be happening with CD Lamb now, too, where they're going to wind up paying them way more than they wanted to.
But it's just happened so many times, and I'm not sure that something will get done. Like I said, I think they're sort of in that Rams in 2020 with Jared Goff thing, where it's like, is this guy going to be quite what we need to get us over the top? But do they have the stomach to see what's behind door number two, where they go into the season with a quarterback in a contract year with it being basically impossible to franchise tag him after this year? So he's got a freeway to free agency. It's tough to actually go through with that.
We'll see if the Cowboys have the stomach for it, if the negotiation isn't where they think it should be two weeks from now. You're the man, Albert, as always. Thanks for making me smarter and a great conversation.
We'll chat soon, brother. Awesome. Thanks, Rich.
Appreciate it. That's Albert Breer, everybody. Soup to nuts right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's take a break and find out what the hell's happening behind me. I don't know. There's all sorts of stuff moving.
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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. So a couple of things here about the last segment. First things first. Do you hear the beeping in the background? Again, I don't know why it bothers me so much. You can't stand that ambient noise.
This is like Cali Ocho all over again. It's not, it's not the, it's not the ambient noise. It's it's, and by the way, it's great that we have activity around here. Again, we were born 10 years ago this October when DirecTV was the main, took up every office here. The first segment of our show in our history, you remember Chris Long, our overlord, our great, our great major domo ran the audience network and so much more around here. He got like 500 people to come out of the offices to surround me and a big jib camera and everything. I was one of them.
You were one of them, right? Yeah. So I don't mind the activity. I just don't.
Cause we went like three years with none. It's just that literally we have two shots. It's this shot and you could take the other one, Donna, if you want in that shot behind us. And you can see there's a truck that's backing up behind right now. So there's only a small space of like 10 feet by 10 feet square feet. That's in that area behind us and all that could actually be seen through our window on the two shots that we have. And for some reason they're there always. Every bit of activity that takes place out there happens right there where that yellow truck, we have windows to show activity. I don't know why it bothers me so much, but I found out, I found out who's moving in the toy company Hasbro is moving in all of the Saturday morning to look at your face.
It was like you, you recognize the name. All of the commercials from like a Saturday morning TV was like a Hasbro games and stuff. Love that.
By the way, when we're in the car, transformers Cooper now says with supplies and solutions because he really, he does, he does, he does the green to read every time it was Hasbro. Are you serious? Yeah. Play-Doh. Monopoly was had. Don't bother.
That was maybe. Can I get some Play-Doh? Sure. Play-Doh smells so good. Yeah.
Do you ever think about that? Yes. Do you ever open a fresh Play-Doh? Play-Doh when you opened it up. That first. Smells so good, right?
Yes. Hold on a minute. You didn't eat, you didn't eat Play-Doh, did you? Well, at first you had to because you didn't know you couldn't eat it. So you had to. It might taste a little bit. Rich.
Rich. I was not the guy that ate stuff that I played, like I wasn't doing that stuff. You didn't eat.
No. You could admit if you ate Play-Doh, Mike. No, I didn't eat Play-Doh. I just remember when you had the Play-Doh and you started making shapes and whatever. Play-Doh was great. That's a top 10.
That's our new neighbor. Star Wars, apparently? The Hasbro makes the Star Wars games? The Avengers. Okay.
Look at us. The Care Bears. Hey.
The Care Bears. You know. More stuff for our studio. Easy bake oven. I was going to say, how do we capitalize on this somehow?
Transformers. Well, we send you over there. So we send Mike outside with the camera again with the ENG. Right now it's all in boxes being moved in behind us. Should I steal a couple boxes? So what if we walked over there and just acted like we were unloading the boxes and just brought them over here? I just took a box? I operate a forklift.
I'll get a couple boxes. Oh my God. G.I.
Joe is Hasbro. Hold on a second. Yeah, I got a forklift license.
Come on, Rich. When was the last time you operated a forklift? Oh, actually, I'm not going to lie to you.
At the boat yard, probably like two weeks ago. Yeah, I drove the thing. Hold on a minute. Mikey, I don't want to. I love you. I don't want to risk you with heavy machinery in a boat yard. That means there's water nearby.
That's right. I didn't go anywhere near. He's always in the water, Suze.
I didn't go near. But yes, forklifts are easy to drive. You know what would happen. He'd be like driving the forklift. And it would go off the side. There's water right there. He'd fall over.
Oh, he's already fallen in plenty of times. Wait a minute. I've just been told, Mike Hoskins, because everybody's Googling what Hasbro makes right now now that there are new neighbors. Uh-oh. Twister.
Oh, yeah. Twister. We can get a twister set in here.
I'm up. The twister I'm talking about is not going to happen right now. The twister I'm talking about is not going to happen around here. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm keeping up with Suze.
Our son might be watching. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Are you kidding me? You're the one who was just, you know, like, Breffy is what you could say.
Breffy? That was so funny. I watched that segment from the first hour. I was crying. I'm still laughing every time.
I can't wait for that to get posted to YouTube. Mike. McAfee can't be the only one having fun on the air here. McAfee's getting hammered in Ireland right now. They are drinking their heads off. Oh, my God. If it's any consolation, if you weren't in that chair and Suze was, we'd be getting hammered right now, too. By the way.
That's right. You know. Let's go to Mitch in Dallas, Texas. You're here at the Rich Isaac Show. What's up, Mitch? Hey, Rich. How you doing? What's going on, Mitch?
Rich and Mitch. Not too much. I thought we'd go down this brown schedule and see what the brownies get done. Oh.
The win loss game. Everybody. Browns fan in Dallas? Yeah. Really? So how's this week? Hold on a second.
How's week one going to work for you, Mitch? Seriously. Like, are you the only Browns fan in Dallas that you know of? I know.
They're all over the place down here. They're like, Browns fans, Mitch, really? OK, here we go. Mitch in Dallas, Texas, doing the win loss game for the Cleveland Browns. What happens when the Cowboys stroll into the dog pound?
Yeah, Mitch. What happens? Well, in keeping with the Browns tradition, they're going to lose their opening game. So Dallas wins that. OK. That's an opening loss.
Let me get a pen that works. Smart image. Next up, at the Jaguars. That's a win.
Home for the Giants. That's a win. At the Raiders. That's a win. At the Commanders. A win.
Without the season opening loss, he'd be five seventeens of the way to what the Miz said of his team right now. All right. At the Eagles. This is where Deshaun Watson goes down with an injury and they lose that game. All right. Four and two, home for the Bengals. They lose that game. Oh, because I thought you Browns fans think you still own Joe Burrow forever. All right.
You know, different year, you know, I'm going to I'm basically looking at they split all their in-division game. So I'm going to say they win at Baltimore. All right. No, they win at home, Baltimore. Okay.
You're already ahead of me. Very good. Five and three, home for the Chargers. They lose that game.
Yeah, I know Jim Harbaugh knows how to win in Ohio. Off the bye at the Saints. They win.
Okay. One, two, one, two, three, four, five, six and four, home for the Steelers on a Thursday night. They win that game. Seven and four at the Broncos on a Monday night. They win that game. Eight and four at the Steelers. They lose that game. Eight and five home for the Chiefs. They lose that game.
Eight and six at the Bengals on a Thursday night. They win that game. Then they are now home for the Dolphins. They win that game.
And then at the Ravens. They win. They win that one. Okay. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven and six says Mitch. That's generous too. Okay.
I don't know. There you go. Eleven and six. Thanks for the call, Mitch.
Appreciate it. The Miz had him seventeen and oh, as we know. And then he went full Hawk 2-0 when the Dolphins came up. Ten and seven, Tom and Canton, Jake and Ohio had him eleven and six. Those are the Browns fans who have chimed in.
And Ted in South Carolina had him eleven and six. Are you going to miss the win-loss game when the football season with the actual win-loss game starts to play out week by week? Everybody going to miss it? Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. You know, I love, I love when we can get interactive, so we got to, we got to come up with something that's going to keep them calling all year. Oh, it's called the NFL.
The actual wins and actual losses. True. But something a little bit more, I don't know. We got to figure it out. Something. I'm going to like it for Dallas.
I love the win-loss game for Dallas. Oh, he is such a troll. He's such a troll. All right. Very good. Let's take a break. Eight four four two oh four.
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It's not bothering me. I'm just like, they're breaking down boxes. Like literally they couldn't do that five feet over the other way. You know what I'm saying?
Like, I mean, that's the entrance is right there. I understand that. I mean, we got to, but they're literally, let's move the boxes. Let's break it down. Let's see this guy break down a box and just go along. Just throw it there. Just so people don't think rich is like complaining. You got to understand there is a ton of real estate behind this back here.
A ton of empty space and show it too. It does seem like every time something happens, it is literally seems what somebody leaves a garbage can there or somebody they left one of those yellow like caution. Yeah. I moved it the one day, but it was on top of nothing. They just left it there.
Yeah. I didn't see it. It wasn't anything to express caution about.
There was no need to warn anybody about that space. It just left it there. But it's very Costanza of you to complain about this. What is it? What do you mean? It's a little Costanza. What do you mean? What do you mean? It's a little Costanza.
Like you're spending real estate on this. We have seven people on hold who want to talk about football. I know that.
And you're worried about these guys. Do you want me to go back out there? I'll go right now. To Disney. What?
Clear out of the mouth. No. They're working. I understand what they're trying to do.
And I welcome Hasbro with open Play-Doh arms. Yeah. Like honestly. And I know how to do that. You take the Play-Doh out. And then you put it in one of those, the circle and it squeezes and it comes out like spaghetti.
And it looks like arms. Monopoly. You guys are so weird.
Monopoly. Weird. You're weird. I welcome them. I used to have fun with that.
But it would just be nice. Let's pick up the pace. Yeah.
Like 10 feet to the left is all we're saying. Yeah. No way. You know? I'm happy.
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Lowest price. Guaranteed. And the other thing I want to talk about with Albert Breer's segment is when we're talking about Tua and his relationship between the two coaches that he's had in Miami and how Brian Flores clearly coached him in a way that made him feel less than. And Mike McDaniel coaches him in a way that makes him feel more than. And in that case, sometimes less is not more. And the old school way, less meaning more worked. Maybe for a different generation of quarterbacks. And sometimes you can give them less.
And as long as you give them more on occasion, balance it out. Clearly Nick Saban did that. You know he had to coach Tua Tough. Tua told us the story at the Super Bowl before he got drafted in Miami at the Super Bowl from Miami. Told the story about how he joked about taking a sack before he won the game in overtime against Georgia when Saban was all over him about taking the sack after he threw the touchdown pass. The game was over. Saban's like, you know, amongst the confetti and everything, don't take sacks like that.
And Tua said he joked with him. Yeah, but I threw a touchdown and Saban didn't like it. So clearly, you know, he can handle tough coaching. And then Breier tells the story about how the first blush meeting between Bobby Sloake, the OC, handpicked OC of the new head coach of the Texans, D'Amico Ryans. And he gave CJ Stroud some really tough coaching that Stroud did not respond well to during the process of the draft evaluation. And I tell you, I heard rumors Texans aren't taking CJ Stroud because Sloake and him did not see eye to eye in the process of evaluating. I heard that going into the draft. And when they chose CJ Stroud that night, I'm sitting on the draft set thinking to myself, well, I guess that information was off. Literally was thinking that in the back of my head as I'm like, DJ Daniel Jeremiah, what do you think of this draft choice? Because I had heard and I was thinking to myself after Bryce Young went first, we're throwing, we're chit chatting, waiting for the Texans to make their announcement. I was thinking in the back of my head as I'm hosting the draft, is it possible that they're not taking Stroud?
Could that be possible? Sure enough, they did. Because as Breer just said, they figured out the operation manual with Ryans and everybody else talking to Ryan Day of Ohio State saying, hey, this is the way he's been brought up. This is the upbringing that he's had. This is the difficulty he has when he hears this from people he does not yet trust. They built up the trust and look what happened. Boom. Oh my gosh. So does this mean Brian Flores is a bad coach?
No. What it means is that he just probably brought the Belichick way of coach, the best player, the hardest into the equation because he saw what Belichick did to Brady and too ain't Brady. Different generation, different style, different way of handling this guy. That Brady had a massive chip on his shoulder. And by the way, the coach who was coaching him hard drafted him. Sixth round. The coach that was coaching too hard drafted him and made an argument in the room and he might've been pounding the table for Herbert. Just amazing insight on how it all works and how you need to realize what's up. And if Flores gets a second shot, I'm wondering how he might handle his quarterback situation differently.
Wouldn't you? No doubt. Training camp stories, man. Just hearing them all and then obviously draft stories that lead to drafting and then training camps and then playing seasons. Greatest narrative generating machine there is National Football League.
And then there's great stories about this time of year. Who makes teams and who does not. And again, I know we crap on preseason football for various reasons.
And I know everybody's like, well, you're going against second stringers and third stringers and those are the ones who are going to start having to figure out life is working in actual real tough jobs. Like earning a living outside of football. And are these guys really going to be playing football?
Well, some of them might be using it as motivation saying, I'm going to make the most of my opportunity here on this night. Certainly if you've got a football name like Carson Steele. Now again, I didn't see him play at UCLA, nor did a lot of UCLA fans thinking he should have played more. I'm talking to you, Smitch. But the way he ran, I was thinking to myself, is this the son of Remington? I know that's an old school pop culture reference a lot of people don't get.
I got you. But you like this guy, right TJ? I mean, you know, it's always fun when you have a story like this, a kid who like, you know, he's on the borderline, he's on the verge of not making the team.
And just, you could tell a lot of grit, a lot of heart, you know, UCLA. So I've heard of him, of course, being here and he's got a pet crocodile. Yeah. I mean, and it looks like the way he played last night and stiffed on to Chicago bear running one in from about 40 yards out last night that he does have like a crocodile or an alligator.
One of the two crocodile or an alligator. Well, I mean, there's a big difference, isn't it? I mean, there is. Oh my God. Look at that. Alligator.
I'm sorry. That's an alligator. That is an alligator. Suze? Should we bring one of those home instead of a Great Pyrenees or what?
What the hell do you need that for? I mean. His name's Carson Steele and he's got a pet alligator and he's stiff-arming people.
Carson Steele is a great name for a football player. Number one. Yes. And its name is Crocky J. Crocky J. Crocky J. Yeah. Nobody needs a crocodile. I'm sorry. So you're naming an alligator Croc. Now that's confusing. That's where I was confused. I knew you were going there.
I know you so well, Mike. Three, two. All right.
Thank you. Where do you get the alligator? At the alligator store?
I mean, is there physically an alligator store that we go, I like this one a little better than this one. 31 yard run. Such a bad idea then. Could you imagine? So they got, they got Isaiah Pacheco running like that. Now could he run like that with him? Are they going to, is he going to make the team? Because he might make the Kansas City Chiefs 53 running like that. It seems like he will.
You know, here's my prediction. He makes the squad and he becomes this year's Peyton Hillis. Remember Peyton Hillis?
Oh. Former Brown. So Carson Steele is going to be on the cover of Madden one day?
Is that what you're saying? Well, I mean, he can only hope, but yeah, I mean, you can tell he's the type of guy that Chiefs fans are going to like. Like I said, there's always guys like that that you kind of rally around and you like, they play hard, they're gritty, and they just got that something different about them. Well, he lit up Mahomes last night. You see Mahomes' reaction? If Mahomes has anything to say with this, which I'm sure he might, this kid's going to be on the team.
Mahomes was loving him yesterday. They just paid Creed Humphrey too. Well, you know. They paid Creed Humphrey too. Well, that's why Pat took such a discount so you could sign guys like Carson Steele.
Well, I'll tell you what, man. That guy is now the highest paid center, I believe, in the National Football League and he is 100% the heart and soul of this offensive line right up the gut. He's the one that centers up Mahomes to hand it to Pacheco or maybe Carson Steele and run it downhill.
Oh my goodness gracious. The two time defending champion Kansas City Chiefs have got a running back named Carson. Carson Steele. That's a great, great name. He's making it.
Well, I would be great. That's one of the names to look for when the 53 men come out. Chiefs are done. Next time we hear from them will be two weeks from last night.
They and the Bears are done. Next time we see the Bears, it'll be Caleb Williams against Jeffrey Simmons saying the words painted nails at him. By the way, I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted to say this the other day. You know, that was the knock against Caleb, right? A lot of people just were up in arms because he painted his fingernails and he had a pink phone case and this, that, and the third.
Well, watching hard knocks, there was something I noticed that has not been, no one's ever talked about yet. No painted nails, no paint case. So if that was your knock on him, if that was for some reason why you held it against him, there's none of that right now.
My man's out there. He's just grinding. He also said he's going to paint his nails a different color every game though, which is all good, man.
That's fine. By the way, by the way, if that's, if that's part of his superpower, then paint your nails sir. Paint them the way you wish.
Our three fantasy footballers coming in studio. Yeah. So, uh, here's what we should do. We should have a segment called, will you paint your nails? No. No. If we should have a segment called, I'm trying to give you a segment and you're interrupting it. Okay.
What's it say? Will you crown a player each week? As one of your guys?
I'd like that. Like the player of the week. Can you wear a real crown?
I don't know. We can get you a crown if you'd like or, or you do the Dennis Green, you know, you crown a player. Give me a podium. We have one of them. We used to do that on NFL network every Monday night where Marshall Falk would crown a player. I'm with that. And we would, we would use the famous Dennis Green drop as well.
They are who we thought they were. If you want to crown him. Yeah. Come on TJ. I'm down that. We're going to do that this year. Once a week, you crown a player that you love. Like you'd crown Carson Steele.
Let's get a sponsor for it. You did that. You were the first to say the name, Ramondre Stevenson on this. I mean, you tell no lies when it comes to that. You were the first to come in and say that the Patriots have some guy and he was a special guy. I just, you know, I'm, you know, the guys with the locks, I kind of look at them cause you know, we got that in common, you know, but I just knew Ramondra had something. I look at them differently with a little bit of a wistfulness, by the way, last night, uh, Kevin Garnett retweeted out, uh, a sports center highlight I did of Marbury versus Allen Iverson in 1997. Oh, and my hair was glorious. Well, that matchup was glorious. His tweet was the, the MF days. And I'm like, no, they're more of the salad days for me.
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