RE Show: Brian Kenny & Rich Eisen - Hour 2

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He's in charge of every detail. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. The Rich Eisen Show. Earlier on the show, Raven Safety Kyle Hamilton. Coming up, MLB Network host Brian Kenney.

Plus, latest news and more. And now, sitting in for Rich. And this man is a brilliant creator. It's Andrew Siciliano. And trying to sit up straight actually. I had horrible posture leaning back. Sitting on my feet in the opening hour. What's up everybody? Hey everybody. Chris Brockman, Jason, TJ, everybody else is here.

My name is Andrew. I'm sitting in for Rich today. Used to do this all the time.

Haven't done it in a while. You may or may not see me on NFL Network or the NFL Channel or the NFL Plus or all the NFL streaming platforms. Formerly the Red Zone Journal and DirecTV. And yeah, I'm here today and tomorrow and a lot of next week as well as Rich is in London. He will join us coming up next hour. Rich will be on the call with the great Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer on NFL Network and NFL Plus at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Coming up on Sunday in London. The Jaguars play back-to-back games. Back-to-back games in London.

A London residency if you will. They were the home team last week and they beat the Falcons in the whole Toy Story thing. And then this week they switched stadiums from London's Wembley to Tottenham Hotspur. And now they are the road team taking on Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills.

Fun fact about that one. If Latavius Murray gets in the end zone, and judging by playing time he likely will not, but if Latavius Murray gets in the end zone. He will score three touchdowns for three teams in three games in two years in London. Remember he had two games there last year?

Remember that? I can't remember where he played for the first time, but then he ended up playing later for the Broncos. He played twice in London for two teams and scored touchdowns in both games. And now he's back with a third team.

With the Buffalo Bills. Anyway. I did not know that.

I did not know that. As somebody would say. Thank you. Alright, more on the TNF game coming up tonight. We're in Washington tonight for the commanders and the Chicago Bears. The winless Chicago Bears who still can't figure out the social media thing. But in the meantime, let's talk baseball playoffs.

Because we're well into those and the divisional series are set now. Joining us, and I'm told he's on camera, from MLB Network, Brian Kenny. It's great to see you sir. How are you? Good. Good, Andrew. How are you doing? I'm doing well. Thanks for doing this here.

I know you're busy and I know you got better things to do, but we appreciate it. Good or bad? And I don't know that there is a right or wrong answer here, but good or bad that everything to open up was a sweep?

I think neither. Probably if you're looking to get on with it, like in this new system, you don't want to, again, you have your top two seeds in the system. I don't know how much you're following it, but the system, they added two teams to the playoffs last year and you have your two top seeds. Last year, it looked like the top seeds, after sitting around for a week, looked like they were a little on their heels at the start. And nationally, the five and six seeds advanced to the championship series.

In the American League, it was the Astros and Yankees, and they were the one in two seeds. You want the regular season to mean something. You want to reward your top seeds.

So I don't know, maybe this instant synopsis, I think this is good in that you get this round over quickly. Someone's got to win. Someone's got to lose. Let's move on to the division series. The better teams and the top two seeds have got to buy in the first round. And last year you had the Phillies, the sixth seed, obviously make it to the series and represent the National League before losing to the Astros. Do we think maybe Brian, the D-backs could be that team? Do you see that at all this year? I mean, it's possible. I don't think they quite have the firepower.

That doesn't have to mean anything. These things aren't completely random, but certainly any team could just get on a good run. I think they lack the firepower of Braves, Dodgers and Phillies. I think Phillies are there too. I think the Diamondbacks are solid. They're a very good defensive team.

They run very well. They've got a top two starting pitching, top of the rotation thing with Merrill Kelly and Zach Gallin. They're not quite at the upper echelon of the Braves, Dodgers, and now you'd have to include Phillies in there. How do you see Braves, Phillies? Look, the Braves are a monstrous unit. The Braves offense is one of the best in the history of the sport and their pitching, if healthy, is quite good. You know, Braves should win.

That doesn't mean they do. It's just like last year. The Braves were quite good. Remember, they marched down the Mets the final weekend of the regular season. They won 101 games last year and they got dropped in their first round.

So you can lose, but this is an all-time offense with power, with speed, with multi-dimensional players. So again, I'd be slightly surprised as much as you can be surprised in baseball if the Braves don't get through. Braves, as we dig down to the numbers, 8-5 this year against the Phillies. I think there are some, I don't think they're right, obviously, that see it as the Braves and everyone else.

What would you say to those people? What, that the Braves are that much better? Oh no, they're a level above, man.

That's true. The Dodgers took a step back this year. The Dodgers, if they wanted to keep their foot on the accelerator, could be there with the Braves. They could have went spending, they could have gotten after it, but it was in their best interest to kind of retrench just a little bit, get healthier over the next three years, reset their spending, do all that, let their rookies play.

They took a step back. The Phillies are still kind of a flawed team. They're very good in the postseason. They're very tough.

They're mentally tough. Bryce Harper is a money player, but the Braves are in another level. Again, the Mets and the Padres were supposed to be there with them.

They both went down and went down terribly. So the Braves are in a class by themselves. Talking to Brian Kenney from MLB Network. I said hotel room earlier. Clearly, Brian, that's not a hotel room.

I apologize. That's my office, man. I was going to say like, you know, I'm so you, I didn't see that at first, obviously. I'm so I'm so used to looking at the camera, then you got to look down.

But like, like we're so used to getting people on from hotel rooms these days in this day and age where everyone can just open their phone or open their laptop. We thank you for that. And tell Rich, that's a that's a that's a that's an Emmy plaque that that we both got for Sports Center the same year. So what year is that?

That's like 2004. So Rich and I probably both won that. Hold on. I'm writing this down right at 2004 Emmy. Can we make sure to clip this for Rich when he comes on?

Rich is in London, obviously, as you know. So hold on. You want to take that off the wall here?

You want to hold it up now? Also, there's a two thousand three to two thousand four. How about that? There we go. So tell Rich, have some have some pride in the old joint. Oh, look at that.

Three and two thousand four. How about that? Now, hold on, Brian. Was this one of the Emmys where, like, you had to write a check for them to give you the actual plaque? I don't remember.

I'm not sure I want to go there. It's like sometimes with these awards, it's like Rich remembers that maybe. I don't know. I don't know. You know what?

You know, it's something else like as rich, like I like years later now because I've won. You know, we won a few Emmys here at MLB Network for MLB tonight. And so I think my wife said, you know, you have these plaques. Why don't you get the statue? I called them and said, can I get a statue for those sports center Emmys that I won? And they said, no, you're you're an anchor.

You can't you have to be technical. I'm like, what do you mean? I said, you know, when you're a sports center anchor, you write the show. I'm the writer. I'm the host on that.

And they go, no, you've really got only to certain people. So if Rich has an Emmy, I'd like to know about. OK, so this is Brian. This is like an entire different level of behind the scenes talk here, because for those who don't know this, this is real. What Brian's talking about, like you can walk into people's offices and you're like, oh, my God, look, there's six Emmys there.

Like, what are those for? And you're like, oh, well, that's when I was a B.A., you know, in 98. Like you got an Emmy for that. It's like, oh, well, we all got an Emmy.

It's like, wait, but you're like the 38. Not that you didn't serve a valuable purpose on the show and part of its success, but like you're like the 38th person on the list and you have a statue there. And and then I remember that one time the one time I was up for an Emmy.

By the way, I lost to MLB tonight the one time for total access. I was up for an Emmy. I remember I walked into someone's office and said, hey, can can can I go to New York for this? And my co-host, Lindsay Rhodes, can we go to New York for this? Like, oh, no, no, you guys you guys got to do the show. And I said, but but are you going? Oh, yeah, I'm going. But but wait a minute. We can't go. No, no.

You guys, you guys got to do the show. But but you're going. Yeah. What you hear is it's really not for you.

It's like it's not for you. Yeah. And so I put my foot down. I've got like six at the house. I've got all the statues.

I just look back at these and I go, I don't know. Maybe I couldn't afford it. No, but they told me, no, you're not where they said. So I did audio.

I'd be able to get it. Yes, exactly. OK, Jason, we love you over there, Jason. We love your audio.

It's this is, as I said, inside baseball, literally kind of thing. But I eventually convinced them to let me go. I went, we didn't win. Fine. We lost to MLB tonight.

Harold was amazingly gracious. Love them. You guys deserve to win. But whatever.

That was my that was my story. Moving on. I don't like to talk about attendance. I don't like to beat up fans. I just think that's low hanging fruit when it comes to sports talk radio.

That said. Isn't it a problem, Brian, when you have a new ballpark announced here coming up for the Rays? And it looked like it looked like a Tuesday in June at these playoff games here for the Rays. Yeah, it was disappointing. I mean, I was surprised to see it. That's about their average attendance. How do you not do better than that?

I don't have some perfect answer. I like the Trump, by the way. I've been to the Trump a lot. They've had me down there because they do the bullpen thing. They do the opener. And so I've been down there as part of their promotions and that sort of thing.

I don't get it. I guess afternoons and but you knew they were going to make the playoffs. Maybe they wanted a division title. I hope with the new ballpark when it's eventually built, they get more excitement there. But you look, that's a disappointment. And that's and you look around at the different parts. Look at Philadelphia last night. The place is amazing still.

So, you know, and most parts are like that. I've never, Andrew, heard louder crowds in my lifetime going back to Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium in the 70s. I've never heard louder crowds than at Philadelphia and Houston last year.

So there is an immense amount of excitement in most every city. And it's disappointing that that happened. Yeah. Afternoon games. But I'm with you.

Like it doesn't explain everything. There's there's some malaise there regarding their team. That was a pretty I had a pretty exciting season. They were the best team in baseball for the first month.

They won ninety nine games. Disappointing. Yeah.

And to your point, go go search Twitter here for the audio only in Philly last night on the Grand Slam. It'll send chills down your spine. It's it's amazing. And there's truly nothing better than playoff baseball in the building. It's it sends chills down your spine. It is that good.

I'm a Guardians fan, formerly Indians fan. And whether it was in 16, there shouldn't have been a rain delay. But that's another story and another show. But being in the building, it was pouring. It was an eight minute rain delay.

I was there, too, without the rain delay in the game that you could not play in those conditions. Eight minutes. I'm taking your Emmy back. Before I let you go on those guardians, any any insight on Tito's replacement Venable? What do you know? I don't have inside information on that.

I know this. They kind of got a pass this year. You know, the Mets, Padres and Cardinals and you want to throw in the White Sox were so disastrous that it kind of clouds over how disappointing it was for Cleveland. They were the youngest team in the postseason last year. They had all that contact hitting all that fielding, the speed, all of that. The new rules come in. They were supposed to be the team best equipped to take advantage of it.

So that that is disappointing. And there's going to be a hot market out there. I don't know if the Mets are absolutely centered on just great counsel, but there's you know, there's going to be a hot market out there for managers this year. There's going to be some replacements and a couple of guys are very much on the hot seat this coming year.

Bieber, McKinsey got hurt. Jimenez didn't match last year's numbers. And let's face it, the Josh Bell and especially Mike Zunino signings were utterly disastrous. They tried to add a couple of bats. Neither of those bats did anything. Well, Josh Bell did something, but not nearly enough.

Mike Zunino was I mean, this is statistically the worst catcher in baseball. And then everyone got hurt and nobody hit. Yeah, it was. Other than that, everything was fine.

Other than that, it was great. And other than that, they were still somehow in it in August because the twins couldn't run away. And then there's a whole waiver wire thing with the Angels and and whatever. We don't have time.

And the Guardians don't move the needle. However, MLB Network does. MLB Network has live pre and postgame coverage for every postseason game throughout the World Series.

You can check out Brian, obviously, on MLB MLB Now, which airs today at 2 p.m. Eastern Time. Brian Kenny, we appreciate the time and we will send your best Emmy wishes to Rich. Excellent. Two thousand three.

Two thousand four. See if he remembers. All right.

Put him back on the wall. Thank you, Brian. Brian.

You got it. Yeah. The Emmy, the the behind the scenes. I mean, thinking this is truly inside baseball here. It is it is something.

By the way, that's how Del Tufo has what, like nine now shows our team efforts. I'm going to I'm going to quote Jerry Krause here. Oh, geez. He actually be careful. Did know what he was saying.

He just said it in totally the wrong the wrong way. Organizations do win championships. OK, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen also win championships, but organizations do win championships. My point being, when shows win awards, there are a lot of people that go into it.

And those people deserve their flowers as well. The way that these Emmys have worked, however. This point, sometimes you or my point, sometimes you walk into people's offices, you like, oh, my God, this person is 85 Emmys. You're like, hold on. But you really didn't do anything for that show, did you? Did you write really?

OK, I gotcha. Cool. I'm like our show where everyone does four jobs. You guys, when you win, all deserve your trophies. But yes, the one time I was up for an Emmy or rather the show that I hosted was up for an Emmy, Rich's former show, NFL Total Access.

Yours truly, Kara Henderson took over one year and then yours truly, Lindsay Rhodes took over the next year. And that next year we were nominated for an Emmy and it was like, oh, you guys don't have to go. Well, I'm going.

I'm calling in sick that day. And I went and we did not win. And you sat through three hours to find out you did. Hey, man, we had a great time in New York. That was an all timer.

That was an all time road trip. The Emmy trip is very fun. The awards show itself.

Whatever you dress up. Yeah. I mean, it's it's after TV, Tom. Yeah, whatever. Everybody had a good time.

Andrew is an honor just to be nominated. It was it truly was not like I remember Harold Reynolds came up to me like, my man, I watch you every night. I like true story. I'm a baseball fan.

I watch you almost every night. Right. And they won.

Of course, they're going to win. All right. We're breaking now. We're breaking. Let's do it. Coming up next.

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Get the podcast wherever you listen. What was it like shooting that scene, though, with Ray Kinsella and his father? What I did was I went back to when I first read it. And so I become the audience when I read it.

And I when I read it, I want I couldn't believe that had orchestrated itself to that thing. And I had that feeling on the couch. And so I knew if I played that straight, I didn't wink at anybody that these players did come.

You know, that's my corner. You know, they kept coming after me. I wasn't going to be able to do that movie. I was going to do revenge.

And I got into a finally revenge, kept getting pushed, kept getting pushed. And finally, I had to put my foot down and say, look, if you don't get this movie together, I'm going to go to do this movie in the corn. I asked the director, why did you hold out for me so long?

Why? And he said, well, and this is one of the greatest actors we've ever seen. He goes, they wanted me to do Robin Williams. And I said, I said, Robin Williams is perfect. He said, yeah, but when I think of Robin, I think he does hear voices in the corn. And I don't want that.

People don't believe you hear voices. That was a that's a director that makes a save. That's a Mariano Rivera.

You know, it's a save. He saved his movie because of his belief in an idea. You know, not the quality of actor because Robin Williams will never. Of course, this is this is a guy so special. But I but I was curious. I said, he's actually a bigger star than me. You know, you know, whatever. And he goes, I need somebody that you don't think cares voices. And that would be you.

I've never heard Robin Williams was considered for that role. That's unbelievable. And then you did it. And obviously we're we're talking about it today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had gold dust on it when I read it because I did that little intake of breath.

Do you want to have a catch? And of course, I I wept myself. If you're watching the Roku channel, great stuff there with Kevin Costner. I could literally listen to him talk field of dreams for hours. You ever had a chance to meet Kevin Costner at all?

Chris Brokman when he's done the show, when he's done the show. Thank you. Yes, he was sitting in this chair right here. Yeah. What am I thinking?

A couple of years. I don't see the thing that was just there. I made the one set of a movie once. Good movie. Bad movie.

Yeah, it was The Guardian. It was pretty good. Good.

Yeah. Met him at the the premiere and like hung with him for a little bit after the draft. A draft day premiere here in L.A. And it was pretty damn hysterical.

I know people like kind of slag on draft day a little bit. I love it when it's on TV. If I'm flipping channels, I always stop and watch. Absolutely. It was literally on last week.

Did the same. Well, it's about the Browns, you know, the Browns fan, obviously. But there are there are issues with it that like clearly within 30 seconds of the movie, like, come on, this isn't real. No, I know. But who cares?

It's still awesome. I generally don't like sports movies. Have we had this conversation? No, I don't like sports movies. Let me let me do this first. Hi. Oh, God. It's Andrew sitting in for rich sports show on the Rich Eisen show, not a sports movie, a sports show.

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Click or call click Grainger dot com or just stop by. The reason I don't like sports movies. OK, it's the reason why I had trouble watching the morning show. However, the morning showed great writing, like some of the conversations back and forth, the screaming and yelling, brilliant writing. Brilliant. But because you working in the business point out all the little things that, oh, that's not real.

I couldn't watch newsroom. Exactly. Nobody actually talks like that in a newsroom. Sometimes you have great.

I love the dialog. But not every day in a newsroom is someone standing on a desk with a soliloquy about saving the world. It's just not it doesn't happen.

There's a lot more curse that way. Right. I mean, it's actually far more like succession than it is about newsroom. Yes. OK. Anyway, it's why lawyers can't watch legal shows.

My dad couldn't watch my dad's a lawyer, retired, couldn't watch legal shows. Right. Because it's not real.

It's why doctors couldn't watch Grey's Anatomy. This is fake. I can't watch this.

Right. Same reason I don't necessarily like sports movies, because, A, the game action is never real. The game action always looks so fake. Always looks so fake.

And then so many other things just like, come on, that wouldn't happen like that. Right. Very first episode of The Morning Show.

I stuck with it. One of the co-anchors, the guy, not the weather guy, the other guy that always wanted the number one spot, the political guy, he has an IFB. You know, right. I'm wearing an IFB, this thing right here. Right.

On his shoulder. All right. And a lot of us walk around like you're not an air. You walk around like this. True story. I go through airports all the time with this thing on my shoulder because you get done on the air somewhere. Right. Let's say and late during training camp, you get done in Cincinnati and you got to get to the airport.

You got to fly to Miami. Right. And you literally go straight off the air to the airport and then you go through security. And it may or may not buzz because there's a metal clip on this thing like, oh, like, what am I doing wearing this thing? I have gotten to hotels in the next town with this thing still on my shoulder. Anyway, it's on his shoulder and it was a generic. OK, this one is molded to my sizable ears. Right.

You work in this business. You have ones just for you and molded to you. So it lays better. It hides better. It's more comfortable. He had a generic IFP on his shoulder.

The only people that were generic IFPs are people that, A, forgot their own or B, you're you're a guest somewhere. And the first episode, I'm like, come on. That's this. Like, come on. Come on.

Come on. It's these little tiny things that we would point out because we notice. Or you have the anchor in the field going, hi, I'm Chris Brockman reporting live. No one talks like that on TV.

And if they do, they're in like Market 185. It's their first job. It's their first job. Nobody talks like that, especially not on a network show.

If they do, then like they're the intern thrown on the air. You shouldn't talk like that. Right. And so it's these little things. Same thing with sports movies, right?

You got to come on. That's not real. It just isn't. How do you enjoy anything? I'm not the person who says I hate everything.

I promise you. Like I just said, TJ, with the morning show, like I got into it. I think the dialogue like, OK, wow. Like some of the plot twists and the way they're all trying to knife each other in the back. I liked it. I enjoyed it. I haven't watched this.

I'm down. I haven't seen it. I'm only like into season two. I'm a late adapter to that show. So.

But yeah. Anyway, I think Chris is awesome on that show. Who is? Billy Crudup is awesome. Billy Crudup is truly amazing on this show.

Yes. And I love the beginning of episode two when he kind of seems like a different character. And someone says, you're not you're not yourself.

And he goes, I know I'm normally just smiling like a Cheshire cat. Right. Because that's his first season.

That's the first season of the show. That's all I was. Anyway, Bears commanders tonight. I do think the commanders win. I do think they're a better team. I think we look at this game much differently. We still look at it as a commanders win. They're at home. Home team always has the edge on Thursdays.

I think we would look at it differently, a lot differently. If Ron Rivera had gone for two, they got the two. They got the win last week in Philly. Then there are three in one team. And we're talking about is this team a legit contender in the NFC East? I still think they are. I think clearly they're the third team. But I think they are in the playoff conversation. As for the Bears. Look, if they lose tonight, it's 15 in a row.

If they give up 25 tonight, that's 15 losses in a row while giving up 25. A lot of people want to put it out there that Matt Eberfluss could be out. Not now. Not now. The Bears don't fire in season.

They've never done it. And there is no obvious interim replacement on his staff. Like most, this is how we kind of pull back the curtain on this side of it. Think, oh, coach might be fired.

All right. Who's the interim? And then you kind of go, I could see this guy taking over. I could see this guy taking over.

Right? There's no obvious answer on the Bears' staff. It's not a staff with any obvious, oh, this guy's in the next head coaching cycle list of interviews. And there is no one on the staff that has previous head coaching experience.

Like, for example, look at the Carolina Panthers. Frank Reich's not getting fired. But there are so many obvious candidates on that staff. You have Jim Caldwell's, a former NFL head coach, and a good one on that staff. You have Ejiro Averro as the DC, who is a guy that is interviewed for head coaching jobs and will be an NFL head coach. Thomas Brown as the OC will be an NFL head coach that day. There are so many obvious answers on Chicago.

There are none. And that's another reason why he is not going to get fired. As for Justin Fields, what do we think? Can I poll the audience here?

I know what I think. Quarterback win loss as a stat. Quarterback win loss as a stat. How do we feel about it? How do we feel about the stat?

I feel, you know, we talk about this all the time. It's quarterback, obviously the most important position, right? They're going to get that one loss stat, but it doesn't take into consideration if your left tackle is awful. Or if the defense plays bad.

Or if guys are dropping balls. But the quarterback is the most important guy in the field. We realize that. I don't know if I love that stat though, to be honest with you.

I don't love it either. It's not the first thing I look to when I figure out if a quarterback is good or bad. Correct. But it is a stat, I think, that does bear some value. It might be tenth on the list of the stats I look at.

Okay. I teased coming up next. The Bears have a chance to make even more history tonight. Other than losing 15 straight games, the longest losing streak in franchise history. If they lose tonight, we now have to look at their calendar and their schedule and say they have a chance to lose 17 consecutive over two years. With a loss tonight, NFL research tells us that Justin Fields would tie former Oilers Dan Pastorini for the most losses in a quarterback's first 30 starts in a career. Now those are cherry-picked numbers like why is 30 the bar?

Okay, well, it will be his first 30. And so they thought about, okay, well, had any quarterback lost this many games? If the commanders beat the Bears tonight, the Bears would have lost, will have lost, 25 of Justin Fields' first 30 starts. Yikes. 25 out of 30 was last week his fault.

That's a layered conversation. I mean, he had to turn over late. He had to turn over late.

He also did enough to put them up by enough points. Correct. They were, you know, they put them in a position. Was the fourth in one decision his fault? Nope. Bad decision. They should have kicked the field goal. Right.

Okay. He also turned the ball over. Both can be true. He also played the first half of his life. Of anyone's life.

Anyone's life. I mean, that was the guy they drafted times five. Like, we want that guy. 17 weeks of that. He was throwing lasers from the pocket.

Laser. When he chose to run, he was great. When they moved the pocket, he was great. When they put him on the run, he was great. And then it all fell apart.

Fell apart. That's what made that game that much more frustrating. And for all the Bears fans leaving, chanting Caleb Williams. And there's plenty of video of that, of Bears fans, understandably upset, leaving Soldier Field, or as they call it there, Soldier's Field. Upset and chanting Caleb Williams name.

You're going to chant his name after you saw Justin Fields play that way in the first half. Because, here's a hint, it's in there. It's there. It's in there. You just got to get it out of it, out of him, more often.

And how do you get it out of him more often? Understanding if you break down the film and you listen to J.T. O'Sullivan, follow him on Twitter. Or Dan Orlovsky, who does great work, okay?

Or Kurt Warner, who was on this show yesterday, right? Yesterday? He was with What the Football. Okay. What the Football. Okay. Yeah. Talking to someone sitting in this studio yesterday. Like it's a, there are times you look at the Bears offense and we go, what are they doing?

Like literally, what was the play? Because not all 11 are doing the right thing, at all. So that's another reason why Luke Getze, if you were to fire Matty Verfus, probably does not get that job, right?

Not with the dysfunction you've had. Now when you have the quarterbacks do the X's and O's, you learn a lot. But there are things that they will often tell you, and Kurt is really good at this, as is Dan. Like, I don't know what these guys were coached to do here, but clearly it doesn't make sense.

But there are layers here. Did the quarterback get the play out right? Maybe they were all coached to do the right thing, but the quarterback didn't call the play right.

Why? Did he make a mistake? Was it too loud? Did the headset crap out?

Or did a player say maybe in this case, cause he takes a lot of flack, number 10 for the Chicago Bears who would not be playing tonight, do the wrong assignment, do the wrong thing after the quarterback got the play out wrong? I don't know. As I said, it's always easier to look at it and go, oh, that sucks, than actually figure out why it happened, which is what I always tell young people when they ask me for advice in this business. Well, I need to build my social media profile. You do. Absolutely.

That's the only way these days. However, snark does not equal analysis. It doesn't. It's easy to be snarky on social media. It's easy to be snarky sitting here. It's another thing to truly get the answers as to why something deserved your snark.

Got it? And there is my preachy sanctimonious moment of the day. But you're telling the truth there, man.

You're absolutely telling the truth. People love to, like, for instance, say that Prescott sucks. Well, someone can give you examples of, well, look at this record. Look at his in conference record. Look at his individual vision record. Look at all of this.

No. Well, he sucks. OK, well, you're not really making a compelling argument. You're just stating a stupid point. And we all sit here on our laptops during the games and tweet away, try to out snark each other.

Anyway, moving on. Rich is in London. Big game.

Like, really good game. Yeah, but this week, Bill's Channel 4 Sunday. Rich is on the call. Rich will call in.

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The podcast is available Tuesdays wherever you listen. I don't know if they still have a shot to make the playoffs or not. Do they still have a shot?

Well, yeah. I mean, all they have to do is just try and win one of the next two without Tony. And and then he comes back and no one's run away with this league. No one's run away with this division right now.

You know what? I guarantee we'll win one of the next two without Tony. Okay. And I'm guaranteed we'll make the playoffs. Okay. I will write that write that down right now.

Shaquille O'Neal. We don't make the playoffs. I'll come I'll come with a Dallas cowgirl suit on your show with some pom poms for 10 seconds. Oh my gosh. I'll come. I'll walk out for 10 seconds and everybody take pictures and make fun. Then I got to leave. 10 seconds.

That's all you get. Not 11 seconds. Not 12.

You get 10 seconds. Okay. I'm on the skirt.

This is a pom pom and a blonde ponytail wig. So that's if again, the Dallas Cowboys, they don't make the playoffs at all in this season. Okay.

Now, what are you going to do if they make the playoffs? Oh my gosh. Yeah.

So but I think that same, but I think they're making the play. Yeah. I'll do it with you. Shaq. How about that?

Deal. How are you Shaq? First of all, it's not my fault. You need to blame it on the Dallas shops.

I've been downtown Dallas looking for some big booty cheerleader shorts that don't have any. So. Yes. I'm a man of my word.

Yes. I will come there one day when you least expect it. Who? And fulfill my bet. Well, but the thing is, I have to do it with you Shaq. So I do need probably a little bit of a heads up, you know.

But you know what? I don't want you to do it with me because, you know, you waited long enough, you know, you're at the point to where you don't think I'm going to believe it. So just to prove it to you, I want you to be front and center and I'm going to give you 12 seconds. This is the best possible scenario, Shaq, is you've extended it two seconds and absolved me from having to do it.

Exactly. I just want you to sit there and watch. Yes, the great Shaquille O'Neal. Much taller than me.

Hi, everybody. It's Andrew sitting in for Rich. Something I found out about Shaq. Not only amazing as a basketball player, Hall of Famer and Shaq amazing on TNT. I just found out this summer that Shaq put in 250, 250 grand into Google. Did you know this when it was only a hundred million dollar company? 250 grand in Google as a 100 million dollar company.

Shaq does not have to worry about the one point four billion dollar lottery coming up. That's a quarter of one percent. Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's good. So he's good at investing. Let's see. Google. I don't know how we got on the financial valuation. Yeah.

Do the math as you do the math. Let's welcome in. I don't want to call him a guest on the show because it is his show. He is the great Rich Eisen, London calling, getting ready to call a game in London. That's girls and the Jaguars. How is London, Rich Cheerio Janssen. Cheerio. Cheerio.

Hello, Governor. You should have worn one of those hats today. Where's your funny hat?

What hat? Like a Tam O'Shanter? Yes. So you're going in a Tam O'Shanter? That's Scotland, isn't it?

Make it a wacky GDM bit. One of the Buckingham Palace hats, guys. Like a bee feeder hat? Like a lid? Yeah, a bee feeder. Dressed like the palace guard.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of like half a Brian Kenney is what you're saying? How is his hair? Does his hair still look the same? Because I don't look, I look completely different. He looks exactly the same, right?

Brian's frozen in time, correct? He kind of has that like full head of hair, but like not doing anything with it, kind of full spiky thing. Just there. I have product in my hair, way too much product.

Like Kenney kind of looks like it's just long and no product and perpetual bed head, but hey, look at me, I'm showing off. I still have hair. Let's talk a little bit of baseball here. Let's talk a little bit of baseball instead.

Because here's my issue. Why doesn't baseball reseed? Why in the world do the Atlanta Braves, after the season they just had, boat racing everybody with five guys in their lineup with 35 home runs, that they now have to take on the Phillies and not the Diamondbacks?

That is ridiculous. Just because that's the way, that's just the way that the bracket is. The bracket is the bracket and we're not going to reseed.

That's why the NFL playoffs is the best. They reseed. They reseed. If the seven seed advances, guess what?

The one seed faces them. They're not going to just, am I, good, because I was going to say, am I wrong? I also think, and Brian and I were talking about this, I said is it good or bad that we had sweeps for all these first four series?

And he thought about it, he's like, well, it's neither here nor there, I guess. I mean, let's get on with it. But I know we had the Phillies as a six seed get to the World Series last year.

All right. Maybe we see that this year. But if you have these sweeps, like are you, yes, it's fun for those fan bases, for these teams to stay in it all throughout the regular season, the Cubs, the Reds, for example, in the NL battling down to the final weekend. But if these teams generally aren't going to go anywhere, we're going to get sweeps and like, why are we here? Well, it stinks that there isn't obviously a decisive game three, right, for any of these wildcard series.

I bet you Major League Baseball sitting around going, really? Out of all four of them, we didn't get one, nope, game three at all. But look, again, I think I'm talking your language to Brockman and same with Sarah, that come on, like the and I understand that the Dodgers would have had to face the Brewers technically, right? So that said, the Brewers didn't advance.

It was Arizona that advanced. And so now Arizona should be the ones to face, you know, Atlanta, certainly in these baseball player such a crapshoot once you finally get into these series and these games, they're the sport where I guess seating doesn't matter the most, but you should still at least do such a thing. And then Philadelphia, I mean, out of any home ballpark, do they have the number one home, field advantage in the playoffs? I know Houston is loud. I can't wait to see what Camden Yards comes across. Camden Yards is going to be amazing. Right. I mean, they have been waiting from for a long time.

So I'm eager to see that. But man, I just thought to myself, wait a minute, the Braves get the Phillies that there's something. There's something off about that. The other thing, too, is both of those NL series, our division series, our teams in the same division, they know each other, I guess fun. I mean, it is, I guess, obviously, they have a history. Braves beat the Phillies eight out of 13 this year. They're eight and five. But wouldn't you rather see like for years we had in the NFL, well, you can't play a team in your division, right?

In the first round. Yeah, I remember that, too. I remember that, too. But that's that's what I was, you know, ready to, you know, have a take on if anything that on my flight, I was thinking about that on my flight, and anybody on a transatlantic flight, when they turn the lights off, and they put the shades down, anybody that still has a conversation with their seatmate should be on a no fly list. That is just at this point in time. And there's nothing so pressing to have a jocular conversation at this point in time that can't wait until it lands until the plane lands. We should see some that it's a quiet car, a quiet zone.

Honestly, these people have something wrong with them at this point in time. So if I if I seem if I seem a little bit cranky, irritable, tired looking next to someone like that on your flight. No, no, no, no.

In front of in front of, okay, in front of his light on, too, because that was a woman. We were two ladies, and it's just like, you know what, and I'm like, Am I going to be that person? Am I going to be that person? No, I wasn't that person, Chris, thank you for making the least of me.

I would have had every right to turn it around and said the following. What is the matter with you? What is this? Just honestly, like what like what this is this this back and forth between you and your seatmate must continue on for the next four and a half hours while we're all trying to sleep. They know each other. Were you able to figure out like, were they friends who are flying together? Were they just random people that it's just, honestly, it's just like, you people can't like each other that much.

You can't. It's what I was thinking. And I thought to myself, I'm behind. I'm sitting in front of two female del tufos on this.

It's what I thought. And I'm like, I can't wait to get on the show with a wig, please. Can we get on that? Can we do that?

I almost made a real photo with everyone. Just don't fly with him ever. There's there's also and I whether it's a red eye or or a transoceanic flight when they turn the lights off, I'm sorry, when when everyone goes back, you shouldn't put your light on. Exactly. Exactly. Like if you need to prep for this big meeting, that's fine.

Use the light on your own phone or if you're probably reading your laptop at that point, you can read your laptop without the overhead light on. I'm trying to be listen, Andrew, I know you don't have children. It's like night night time lights out. No more talking.

No more talking lights out. It's time to sleep. What is the matter with you people? Don't you understand what the time zone difference is going to be when you land?

What do you what do you just blow past this whole jet lag thing? I think I made my point. I almost tweeted about it. I almost tweeted about it. I almost tweeted about it and I deleted it because when you when you when you tweet about your travel problems, it's kind of like your fantasy team or the Bad Beats and Poets or nobody cares.

Oh, I think it's I think it's worse than those two, actually, worse than those two. Yes, because because you're coming across as the elitist, I care about fantasy, right? The average fan sitting in the upper deck or average fan sitting in 35 B in the back of the plane is well, that's how they're reacting. I'm sitting in coach. I'm not. I've got I've gotten those straight. I've gotten that flack when I've done one of those tweets, this this had nothing to do with the seat. Oh, I know.

I know. I know it's a societal issue. That's how they're going to react. They're going to react because I've done it. I've had those tweets about like, oh, this guy's got his filthy feet on the wall or something like that. It's like, whoa, well, you're sitting in first, buddy, you know, that all the time they can do matter.

They give me crap about people reclining their seat in front of me. Oh, yeah. Oh, don't get me. Don't get me started on that. Let's see. That's a problem.

No, I recline my seat. Deal with it. Don't get a button. Right. Exactly. Pushes my seat back. By the way, we've done this behind me are allowed to push your seat back as well. That's off. OK, Andrew, you're five six. All right.

I'm six three. Like I need the room more than. That wasn't that wasn't an issue for me because my seat mechanically went into a flatbed.

But I knew that I knew that we should feel bad about him. He's sitting in one day on a transit flight. There's nothing better than the bags on the plane, though. Where's my champagne is honestly my choice for breakfast was not available when I woke up. I thought the chip cookie was not for Scramble has to understand, you understand, you're only selection for the films, OK, so I was very upset when the people behind me didn't shut up.

Just take the hot towel, cover your eyes with it and go to sleep. Sometimes we say this is a first world problem. This is literally a first class problem. Yes. Hey, OK. OK, so anyway, when I when I did when I did land, when I did land, I can I can tell you this.

It's just for at Customs, OK, at Customs and their passport control just upon landing. And again, this is this is unofficial in terms of how things might play out on Sunday. Ten to one bills fans. Oh, really? And not but that's not surprising. Is it the Jaguars have a residency there? Like Jaguars fans are flying from Jacksonville because it's not like Celine Dion in Vegas. Yeah, I mean, absolutely.

All right. But it's not a novelty, right? Bills fans.

This is a novel. Like, we're going to London. They were everywhere. Did you see the governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, changed the blue law in New York for Sunday to make sure that the people can drink. You got the governor of New York, 8 a.m., do you get served served in Buffalo? Start pounding. Let's start pounding. Oh, yeah.

Start getting broken mad early. I'm telling you what, though, they were they were they were setting up fire pits at passport control, getting ready to just jump in and just stomp people. Did anyone jump on a sort of was the mafia was there at immigration, bro?

Mafia was there at passport control. And so that's just the first blush that there were tons of bills, France, tons of bills fans, maybe Jaguars fans have just been here already for a week, which is and the bills, by the way, fly out tomorrow. So they're not they're practicing today. We just zoomed with Sean McDermott, the coach of the Bills, who, by the way, said it is feasible. I'm paraphrasing, but he said it is possible that Von Miller plays. They're going to see how he practices today. There was a little bit of a of a walkthrough on Wednesday, but you're going to see how he practices today.

Looks good. And it's entirely possible. Von makes his debut here in London at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, where there's, again, ten to one bills fans at passport control that I saw today coming off of my red eye. Von has not played since the knee injury, obviously, on Thanksgiving a year ago yesterday on the podium.

He sure sounded like he was ready to go. Obviously, we'll find out on game day. You and Kurt Warner on the call. Do we think here that they are going to have folding tables outside in Tottenham? I don't know. I'll jump through. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. That's what the ladies behind me were talking about. I hope they're at the game. I don't know.

I don't know. But that's that's the early report here from London of it for the for the for the four windows of football, as Brockman likes to call it. It's so great.

I love it. So, yeah, we got that going on. Do you think because I was thinking about this yesterday, people think, oh, the Jaguars have the advantage here, right? Because the Jaguars are are there.

I actually think there is something to be said about a potential disadvantage. Oh, yeah. For the Jaguars being there for two weeks, because Doug Peterson, Rich last week before they flew off to London for two, said that there were a lot of logistics that he was still trying to sort through in his heads, like things, things like looking at film one week to the next, things like rehabbing injuries. Hold on. Stay right there. This is the Rich Eisen show. We'll be right back.

Breathe. Still on Roku, I think, but no, I'm we're we're seeing him on Saturday. We're seeing him Saturday morning. We'll ask about it. Like, all I know is I'm, you know, on fumes right now. And again, it's just, you know, time difference and things of that nature and two yammering ladies on the flight. But put it all together.

I can only imagine it's a complete advantage to be on fully acclimated to the time zone and everything like that. And I can't wait to ask, like, what did they do all week? Like what happened? So you know, we'll ask him about that. And on Saturday tomorrow, I've got Bill's practice. Saturday is some Jaguars practice. And then Sunday's the game. I know MJ did.

We are like 45 seconds. I looked at M.J.D. 's Instagram, Maurice, John Drew Jaguar legend is over there. He posted something from Ibiza Ibiza this week.

Oh, he's just he's just partying. You know, there are family beaches in Ibiza as well. I know that I was not aware of that.

I did not know that, by the way. Very impressed that you went Castilian. Yes. Ibiza.

As opposed to John. Let's all speak some Castellano. Yeah. Very, very impressive. And you're hooked on phonics, bro.

You had to have gone on a hike there, right? Is that why? We've got to be up against the hard house. I mean, we have to be. We have 15 seconds. Rich, are you cool to stay over for the top of the hour?

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