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October 4, 2023 2:55 pm

Rich and the guys debate if the Bengals would be better off playing Joe Burrow or sitting the star QB until his calf injury is fully healed. 

FOX Sports/The Athletic’s College Football Insider Bruce Feldman tells Rich if Colorado QB Shedeur Sanders could be a 1st-round pick if he enters the 2024 NFL Draft, the chances Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams both leave USC for the NFL after this season, if the Texas Longhorns are truly “back,” and the chances the Georgia Bulldogs or any other SEC team misses out on the College Football Playoff.

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Oh man, that's a tough one for me. It's always hard when you see a guy of that caliber go to another team. Earlier on the show, Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield. Coming up, Fox Sports college football insider Bruce Feldman, actor and comedian David Spade.

Plus, latest news and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. College football is upon us once again. As Bruce Feldman will join us in hour number two, this being that right in the middle of this hour. His usual Wednesday spot talking about everything and with Coach Prime having lost two in a row. And the Heat, if you will, dying down a little bit from the 3-0 Colorado start. I think this is where everybody's kind of just looking around saying, what else can we talk about?

And there's a lot to talk about. Baker Mayfield on in hour number one went complete horns down in his conversation with us. Well, the horns are definitely back. And Bruce writing about Texas being back and the number of times you hear Texas back.

This one, it does appear to be the case. It does feel a little different. And beating Alabama will give you a sense of feeling better and different. And so Bruce is going to join us to discuss the Red River shootout that, by the way, Baker. I just told Baker we wanted to talk about something he's doing with Vince Young for this.

And I said that and he goes, yeah, I don't want to talk about this. Horns down. I'm like, OK. Again, he woke up dangerous on his own sponsors.

He does what he wants. David Spade in studio hour number three and week five upon us as well in the NFL. I yesterday gave you my top five list of most disappointing starts of twenty twenty three. And speaking of feeling different in the way we just said, you know, feels different for Texas that it does appear they they do look back. After all, the years of everyone saying Texas is back and they wind up with three, four losses on the season anyway. It just feels as if the Bengals are in trouble.

A team that has started on to previously before and recent years and may make AFC Championship games. This one just feels different because of the way that Joe Burrow looks. We have a set of eyes.

We have a set of eyes and I would tweet it out during the Monday night football game against the Rams. Their lone win to this point. Hey, Joe Burrow looks like a shadow of himself.

And that's a shame. Now, he did win the game and Jamar Chase had his best game of the year. And Burrow was just limping around and somehow got through it with Aaron Donald in his direction. Not so against the Titans. I honestly thought that win against the Monday night. The Monday night against the Rams would catapult them that, OK, they've now turned the page, but they're now two games under five hundred again. And going into Arizona, this is beyond.

Loosable for this team. This is I think I'm going to pick Arizona. They've just flat out just look better. They have more consistent. If you choose the team that's looked better, been in more games, has a quarterback that does more for his team. In terms of affecting wins and losses in moving the football and looking mobile, looking right. Josh Dobbs instead of Joe Burrow.

And I cannot believe I'm saying these words into a microphone, but it's a fact. It's kind of wild. The team that you thought would come into the season tanking for Caleb Williams. Even though I keep saying there's no tanking in the NFL, you just keep removing players from your roster who can help you win.

That's the way that you start pruning the tree so losses start growing on the branches. They're one and three, just like the Bengals. And I would say the Arizona Cardinals have a better 2023 path right now. Towards getting back to 500 the way that they're playing. Then the Bengals who looked like they were turning down opportunities to hit Derrick Henry back.

Which happens a lot in this league. It's not my job to put my body in front of Derrick Henry and I'm thankful for that. Because on the back end of my London trip I'm going to see him and I cannot wait. I haven't stood next to him since he showed up on our set in Miami at the Miami Super Bowl. I think he's probably the same size. Yeah. I just can't imagine someone like that in pads and a helmet just whooshing his way downhill.

But this team has not turned down physical play in the manner in that I saw them do it against Tennessee. So Kurt Warner, my hall of fame friend who I am calling Titans Ravens in London. On the back end of my trip that starts this weekend with Bills Jaguars on NFL Network. He was on What the Football with Susie and Amy. Susie Schuster and Amy Trask.

Get it where all podcasts can be acquired. He was on yesterday and they asked him about this whole concept of just sitting Joe Burrow down until he's ready to play. That maybe the Bengals should have done and that horse may be out of the barn. But his two cents on Joe just taking a beat to get back to the Joe Burr as opposed to the ice cold Burrow we're seeing. Joe Burrow. I don't think they should be playing him. I think they should be sitting him for a number of reasons.

But what matters to me right now is I want to know what you think. If I was Joe and I could get out there and play, I'd be out there playing. I mean, that's just that's the nature of what we do.

And, you know, it's one of those things that, you know, we always say to ourselves. So we hear people say, well, you know, he should play if he gives the team the best chance to win. But if there's somebody else that maybe give the team a better chance to win, then he should sit down with the coaches and sit him down. I can tell you that I never thought there was somebody that gave our team a better chance to win. It didn't matter if I was beat up. I was on one leg.

I was limping out there. That's just how we feel as competitors is that our team is better when we're out there. It's not like we're playing one hundred and sixty two or we're playing eighty two games. We've got seventeen of them. It's one of those things you always have to leave it up to the athletes, especially those superstar athletes, that if they believe they can be out there and be effective.

You put them out there and you let them give it a whirl. Yeah. And see, as a sideline reporter, I look at that and I think, OK, with the Aaron Rodgers injury, the calf Achilles, it's so connected. I worry about could that be something that's symptomatic of a greater injury? So I think to myself, well, maybe is it worth the rest? Is it worth the time to let it heal more effectively?

I mean, that's also the Kevin Durant way to look at it, right? Yep. Calf turn calf injuries can turn into something far more significant.

When he when, you know, when you're speed bridging. All your way to Southern California to try and get that surgery, but that's the whole point about this, too, is that the time to have rested him is when Jamar Chase said we should rest him. Yeah. Well, Jamar Chase was like, look, week five, we don't need you.

Like, get red, get right, get healthy, come back with the stretch, run the season. I know. And this is the whole point of this. And we had Zach Taylor on, too, you know, and he was asked earlier this week if Barrow was going to go in Arizona, he called it a strange question. Jake Browning is the backup.

And, you know, there's there's absolutely. No history there. For this rookie. Out of Washington.

Me. That's what I'm saying. Could they have this the hindsight part of it? Could they have gone one and three with Jake Browning?

Yep. And then Burroughs coming out. Or Burrow could have easily tweaked his calf and this is the way it's going to go.

And we just got to see it just doesn't seem like he's pushing off his lower frame to get the ball where he needs to get it. One in four losing Arizona would be red alert. To use the phrase that's down there in the desert right now, what's their schedule? I mean, and then home for Seattle stuff by. I mean, worst case, we're going to one in seven because they're at San Francisco and home for Buffalo and then a ton of nationally televised games. Early Thursday game on early week, week 11 game at Baltimore, they got to go to Baltimore in a short week, guys. At Jacksonville on a Monday night, you see Houston on the schedule when it comes out, you're like, OK, cool, that's a win. Not the way they're playing right now. Not the way C.J. Stroud looks. Looks like a top twelve quarterback in all of football right now in a matchup of two former Ohio State quarterbacks, right?

Any chance you get poke, poke, I'm not poking. That's you ask a Buckeye fan. They own him. They own Burrow. Well, they own him if he's one and four suddenly puffy chest out. He's the guy he's the guy that we sent to an order on so he could become Joe Burrow.

Go Tigers. Yeah, that's you're right. Now, see, you do give me an opportunity. I'll keep digging. See. But, you know, but I can also go south quick after the I could understand what Kurt saying to, you know, hey, I'm a you're Joe Burrow.

You're like, I'm not here to Jake Browning. What are you talking about? And I get that, too. But at some point it's long term. It's health. You just signed your big deal. You got your money. Like get healthy for the good of the team. Long term future.

No way, man. I'd love to know what that golf cart conversation between him and Mike Brown, the owner of the Bengals, where Mike Brown pulled up on that Friday of the Monday night win week to basic. I don't know what that conversation was about. Like, hey, you all right?

What what is it? Everyone thought that was him basically saying you're not playing Monday. And then there wasn't the difference between wins and losses, man. When after the win, we're like, OK.

I was sitting here sitting here thinking that's OK. You got through it on one week. So next week it'll be better and then he'll be better and then he'll be better. And then suddenly we won't be talking about the calf.

And instead they get punked in Tennessee. And that's all we're talking about. And it's a conversation that Kurt Warner is chiming in on, saying if I were him, I'd keep playing. But Susie's point is, is, you know, we've seen calfs become worse. And when he went down in that July, I honestly did think we would be talking about it in early October.

Yeah, because I thought it was an Achilles. And then he comes back. And he has just not been the same one in three Cincinnati.

And then I'm sure your fantasy team's record is exactly that, or 0-4 if you have them as your starting quarterback. 844-204 Rich, number to dial here on the Rich Eisen Show. Fitz in Dallas. Let's take your call. What's up, Fitz? Hey now. Hey now. What's going on, brother?

Well, first of all, testing 1-2-3. I got the hang up last time for Mikey D because I had a bad connection. You guys got me all right? You were good, Fitz.

Thank you, thank you. All right, so first of all, Rich, I noticed that you asked Irv this weekend on the pregame show for a Dallas Cowboy towel. Did he ever get that to you? I haven't seen him since, but we can, I have a feeling he knows how to inventory that thing, Fitz. Well, just put, if you put me back on hold, I've got one here for you, my buddy Barr. He put one aside for you, so I'll have it shipped over to you. Well, here's the thing, Fitz.

Here's the thing, Fitz. You can send it here. I hope you don't mind. I'll give it to TJ because I think it might mean more to him.

That would be great. Is that, okay, so that's why you were asking for it. No, I wasn't asking for it. No, no, no. Fitz, listen to me.

I never crossed his mind. Hey, whoa. Excuse me. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Fitz, Fitz, I must, I must put a stop for the moment in our conversation and then we will return. I said on NFL Game Day morning your actual name saying that you coined the term the Dolphins greatest show on surf and turf.

Unfortunately for you, they then got curb stomped in western New York after I actually put that out there, so it's on you. Also on the bush. And clearly, but admittedly Fitz, when I saw the towel you were referring to our great camera crew that we send all over the place to all the stadiums captured, I guess they were these towels in a luxury suite and it was a shot that we had going to break. And I said to Irv, can you get me one of those towels? Glad that you caught that. I definitely wasn't thinking of TJ in that moment.

But now that you're saying, no, no, I definitely wasn't. It was just a gag, but now that it's possible to actually get one, I never thought he would actually provide me with one of them. So, okay. Yeah, and I'll bet he forgets anyway. So yeah, I'll get it over to you. That's funny.

One other thing, I'll get two more things. I apologize. No, go ahead for it. It's okay. Going back to the Jimmy Butler yesterday, is it me or does he look like Terry Crews, the president on air idiocracy? Oh, man.

What do you think? Thank you, TJ. Maybe you're the only one that gets it. Sorry. You get a towel for that? Yeah, hold up a second. Okay, you get a towel for that. Okay.

What else? Well, and just TJ, just to let you know, morale is high here this week. We're going to get it. This is third time's the charm.

Oh, boy. You know, we got Texas OU this weekend here. It's a huge sports week. The Rangers won yesterday. We're back in the playoffs. Yep.

So I see Sunday being an unbelievable game. We're going to take it. Thanks very much. As always, thank you, gentlemen. All right, Fitz. Thanks, Fitz. Put me back on hold.

I'll get that towel. Okay, Mike, put him back on hold, Mike. Oh, good thing you said that.

Because holes, you're like a little grave heart. I think you have that drop. No.

Yes, you do. It's in there. I had you cut that along.

Don't worry about it. I like Fitz's President Camacho reference there in Idiocracy. It's a good thing he said, put me back on hold, because quick- Boom. Quick-fingered Mike Del- Heavy-fingered Mike Del Tufo.

The only person with quick, heavier fingers is the stenographer for the Bears in Chicago. Clack, clack, clack, clack, clack. We should do a- I have it. You do? I just got to edit it. I got to edit it. Oh, okay. Don't worry about it.

That was- We literally just heard horses grunting. Yeah, that's it. Giving you the indicator that I have the drop. Real quick here, and then we'll bring out Bruce Feldman. Real quick here. If the Rangers- hold on a second.

If the Rangers go to the World Series, and they damn well sure can. Yeah. Okay. With having two Mets aces brought in and then have nothing to do with their playoff- Zero point zero.

Okay. Their playoff race. Well, they had a playoff winning path, okay?

And would this be the immediate moment? Cut the five-year wait to put Bruce Bochy in Cooperstown, where he's going to go anyway. He is going anyway, I think. But just basically- Like how basketball coaches are still coaching, but they're in the Hall of Fame already?

Give him a plaque at the parade. If he brings the Texas Rangers to the World Series, and they win it, with everything that went down this year, with everything that's gone down there, with everything that the Texas Rangers have always wilted in the heat of the summer. That was always the sense that they can't do it because they play in 100 degree weather or whatever the hell it is. Forget what he did in San Francisco, San Diego.

That would be it, right? Both DeGrom and Scherzer. Bring them both in. Neither of them are around for the playoffs. It'd be his fourth World Series. Yep. For the Rangers?

Winning it in both leagues. Well, it's an odd year, right? The Giants always won an even year. Is that what it was? I forget what's a Saberhagen, remember Saberhagen would win the Cy Young in even years or odd years and then would be terrible the next?

Odd for him, I think, because 85 started with Saber. There you go, whatever it is. So yeah, even years for the Giants may be odd number years for the Rangers. Maybe, there you go. There you have it.

Honestly, would that be, like, give Bochy his plaque on the spot. He's amazing. He's incredible. Getting it done, man. He sure does. Getting it done.

Getting it done. All right, we'll take a break right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports and the Athletic.

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Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports and the Athletic back here on the Rich Eisen Show. When's the next time you're going to Boulder? I don't know. It may be a minute. Is it?

Perhaps, yes. But I don't think the story's done. The way they finished the second half, if you could ever lose a game and come out more optimistic than you went in. If I was a CU fan, I would be like, man, it's pretty good.

Yeah, I think Dion told folks at the halftime speech moment, I'm taking note of who's coming out here and playing hard for the rest of the season. And they definitely brought it in the second half of that game, for sure. Especially, you're down two defensive backs. You're probably two best defense. You're certainly your best corner in Travis Hunter and his son, who's one of the leaders of the defense.

And you're going up against Caleb Williams and those receivers. You're not holding them down, but just the fact that they battled and USC looked just kind of worn out by the end of that game. Which is interesting because they're supposed to out physical Colorado in the same way that Oregon did. Well, they didn't. I know, right?

What does that mean? What do you take out of that? I take that they're having a tough game this weekend against Arizona. And they have, Jed Fish has done a really good job. They're turning that place around. And then next week, got to go to South Bend and you're going to face a team with really good linemen.

If they play 11 guys. What? Nice.

What's wrong? He's talking facts that I get to talk facts to? Yeah. They'll be playing 11 guys.

Rich. So I'm sorry. If they're playing 11 guys, you were saying? It's a really physical team with a running back who looks like the hole coming at them. And look, I keep thinking USC is going to get markedly better on defense. They're a little better than they were last year, but they haven't made the improvement I thought they would make, but maybe they will at some point. The secondary did not look lost. And again, credit to Chidor, I think Chidor is fantastic.

He to me is the biggest revelation of what's going on. The offensive line I thought was going to be even worse than it's been. It's not been great, but considering what all these patchwork going post spring, it's Chidor is like, there's a crew of elite quarterbacks in the Pac-12 and Chidor is absolutely deserving to be in that group.

No kidding. Because I mean, you've seen it. I've seen it, watching it, Bruce Feldman here on The Rich Eyes and show from the Fox Sports and the Athletic in his usual Wednesday spot. And you always hear Heisman hype and then you see what happens against the top opponents. And if the quarterback is not on the winning side, things sort of slide away on the Heisman talk. But just in terms of the next level talk, he is absolutely a guy that is going to play at this next level. Yeah, he's got good size. He's super smart. He makes good decisions. He hangs in the pocket almost to a fault. His offensive line is bad and he will hold onto the ball maybe too long at times, but he gives his receivers a chance and he makes some super accurate throws. He's got high level accuracy. He's got great pocket presence. Clearly he is a leader.

Everything I've seen from him has been very A plus. Coach's son. Coach's son raised in it. And I think why I could see him not being like, this is a loaded quarterback class, obviously with Caleb and Drake May expected to come out and not just them, you got Bone Nicks from Oregon, Michael Pennix. You have a bunch of other quarterbacks.

You may have Quinn Hewers in it too from Texas. The difference with Chidor is he could come out, but he knows he's really invested in the program in a way to a level nobody else can be because it's his dad's program. And also he knows we're going to get a bunch of dudes, we're going to have a big upgrade coming of talent next year.

Why would I not want to be part of that? Right. And a first round grade could come with something like that if he sticks around. A first round grade might be there right now.

You think so, huh? Ask DJ to sit and watch him. I trust DJ more than I would trust myself when it comes to stuff like that because he worked in the NFL.

But I think everything you look with him, there aren't many guys who have Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes arm anyway. It's like, oh well, how well does he see it? How accurate is he? Does he have presence? Is he tough?

All those things he has. Watch the throw he makes for the touchdown last week. It's actually good coverage. And it's, Caleb is on the field and it actually might be the most impressive throw of the game in a game where Caleb made some wild throws. Bruce Feldman here on the Rich Eisen Show. I asked Baker Mayfield an hour one, one month in, Caleb Williams gets your vote for the Heisman. Again, it's just one month in and it's so rare back to back, obviously Archie Griffin's a name that keeps getting thrown around because it's been that long. Is it Caleb Williams' award right now? Do you think, Bruce?

Yeah, but we're going to see it once. What happens if they lose to, and I'm sure it won't be his fault, he has one turnover this season. He probably could have had a couple of picks in previous games, certainly at ASU, but he's playing an incredibly high level. He's putting up ridiculous numbers. Some of these other quarterbacks in the Pac-12 are also putting up ridiculous numbers though. So there's a lot, we're not even at the midway point. If you ask me, who do I think is going to win, I think Caleb is going to win it.

I do too. I mean, it's just, again, I know how talented the other quarterbacks are that we're talking about, even in his own conference, but I mean, he is a totally different cat than any of the other guys. Drake May, we could throw out all of these talented kids who can have terrific pro careers and maybe even beat this kid on Sundays. I mean, there's no two ways about it. Well, he also has another factor because there's so much visibility and one thing goes on with him is people look at his defense and go, oh, that's a terrible defense. And they've seen evidence. They didn't look good against Arizona State. They look really bad in the second half against CU. So people are going to go, hey, they may be a playoff team in spite of all that. I don't think people, you know, last year Washington's defense wasn't great. It wasn't even very good.

Now, I think it's better. But again, Michael Pennix, you know, people think, and rightly so, that Oregon has a good defense. They do. But that's, you know, Bo Nix is a legit candidate. It's also where the Heisman is set up.

There are voting blocks, right? So it's like all those dudes are on the West Coast in that same, you know, they may split some of the pie where it's not like there is no wow, wow quarterback. You know, Jayden Daniels is playing terrific at LSU, but they got two losses, you know, full respect to him. But like, you know, somebody's going to get a lot of votes out of the SEC. They're all not going to be voting for these, you know, five-pack 12 quarterbacks and split it up.

Interesting. Where do you think Caleb Williams wants to play next year? If Washington was awful, I think it'd be go home and, you know, but they're not, right?

I mean, you know, Sam Howell, who was a good college quarterback, you know, I think they've seen what's going on with him. But I mean, I can't imagine Washington would pitch away what they're building right now to go trade a million draft choices to go get Caleb Williams. I don't even think it's going to be possible because whoever wins the first overall choice and by win, I understand it requires losses, but it would be a W to get that. So all I'm saying is no one's going to trade that pick. Let me ask you this question.

Yes, sir. Whoever probably has the first pick probably would have a new quarterback, new coach. To go along with Caleb Williams? Well, I'm just saying you might be looking for a new coach.

I think if you're that bad, if you are, you know, do you certainly make a run at Lincoln Riley and his offense? We've been talking about that a million times off cameras. We might as well bring it out in front of the microphones. Why wouldn't you? And then if he doesn't come. Would he come?

I don't know. I think at some point down the road, I think he will coach in the NFL. That's my own, you know, he's never told me that, but that's my gut because I think he's a guy who I think is obsessive when it comes to like X and O's and kind of stuff. And I think you see that translate in a lot of guys, whether it's Mike McDaniel or Shanahan or McVeigh, a bunch of guys, KOC, same thing, where I think he would be like, let's see how this is going to work now. But the one I wondered about was, you know, who's on that staff right now is Cliff Kingsbury. And Cliff obviously has had a lot of great quarterbacks. You had Patrick Holmes.

Now he's working or helping work with with Caleb. If you're an NFL team, do you look and say, all right, I know it didn't go great with the Cardinals. It wasn't a disaster. I say question mark. No, no, no. I know what you're saying.

Obviously that was a fire of some sort in Arizona, might be dumpster or different type of fire. But and I'm sure Kingsbury would learn from whatever mistakes he was involved with there. But in terms of a coach of Lincoln Riley's caliber and also resume, they know in the same way that my current coach at Michigan knows, when you go to the NFL and if you pitch away a remarkable situation at the collegiate level, you want three things. You want full control of your roster.

You want an owner that isn't nuts, that knows how to run an operation and is completely stable. And the third thing is the quarterback. So if Lincoln Riley does make the leap and somebody goes and offers him the godfather offer to make him leave USC, he knows he's got the quarterback and he knows he's got control of the operation, as long as it's a spot that the owner is stable and his family wouldn't mind living. Isn't that the end of the story?

I mean, why wouldn't he do that if he wants to go to the National Football League? That's my two cents on that subject matter. Yeah, and it depends where it is because I know he has a young family and I know them and I don't think it's a foregone conclusion.

Hey, we're going to up and move over here. I think I, you know, maybe I'm being naive, I genuinely think that is a real consideration for him. Of course it is. You know, it's life.

Yeah. And look, I did, I think you guys heard Richie's word, my current coach, as opposed to like, you should be, he will probably be a hot commodity. Hey man, I'm living in reality here.

You know, I'm not living in La La Land the last two years. He's the one guy like who actually, you know, he spent a ton of time playing in the NFL and he has a great record as an NFL head coach. He sure does.

Hell yeah. I mean, and, and again, I, I love him. I don't want Jim to ever leave. But if he leads you to a national title this year, then you're patting him on the back and going, Hey, you did everything.

Well, I would pat him on the back no matter what I really would. And that's, I'd be dead honest with you because obviously I, for many reasons, one that he was my first quarterback when I went to Michigan, when I was a freshman, that was his last year there. And so I have, and what he has done, what is happening right now, despite the last two winters with me on the razor's edge, wondering if he's coming back, that said, it would be great if it won a national championship and he wants to leave. I also couldn't blame him if, you know, the McCaskies call him up and say, we just got the first and second overall picks because of the way everything worked out with our season and Carolina's season. How would you like to leave Michigan and coach here for Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr. and everybody else that we've got here?

And we, you can bring in your general manager with all due respect to Ryan Polis. What do you say no to that? I don't know how he could. That's what I'm saying. Especially if he wins a national title, then it's like, Hey, my work is done here. That's how special this kid is. That's what I'm thinking while I'm watching him. You know, it's so rare to see somebody as talented as him in a program like USC, right, that has him and are playing significant games and can go to a college championship on a championship run, knowing that's the first overall pick of the upcoming draft.

It's so rare. I mean, Trevor Lawrence was something similar to that. I don't even think, like, I think Trevor Lawrence was a terrific quarterback prospect. I don't think Trevor Lawrence was this guy. I really don't.

And like, I would say this, I can't even use the language. So there's a college coach I know who's fairly, like many of them, very cynical. I mean, he was just raving about him the other day when we were talking about something else in words that was like, he was like, he's amazing. And this is a guy I don't hear usually talk about college players this way. Momes is the name that gets thrown out.

I had to get a drink. Patrick wasn't this good in college, by the way. And we asked Baker Mayfield in the first hour that, hey, you know, if you'd vote for Caleb for the Heisman again, he says, yes.

And I'm like, well, Momes is the name being thrown around. Would you agree with that as an assessment? He said, absolutely.

He didn't stutter. So again, that's the whole, that's why I asked you where would he want to play? Like he's seeing maybe the landscape going on right now in the NFL.

It certainly isn't college. I know what his dad said. Right?

Like, hey, come on. You have to start your clock for the second contract. You know, you, you can have injury insurance, but at the end of the day, you know, like you do run the risk. He's holding the ball for a while. He's extending plays. I mean, he did. It was only, it was only, it was a hamstring injury that really, you know, hurt, you know, hurt him at the Pac-12 title game. But like, I think the people around him have to know if you, if you do get hurt and it's a, it is a position where you're going to take hits, you know, is that something you really want to risk for another season? You know, where it's like, okay, you want to get to the NFL or also you'll have had three years with Lincoln Riley, obviously Lincoln's terrific with quarterbacks, but like, you know, is the benefit that much greater? I mean, that's a question for another day.

Bruce Feldman here from Fox Sports and the Athletic here on the Rich Isaac show. You're going to Columbus, right? Big noon on Fox is Maryland at undefeated Maryland. Yes.

What do you think? I think Maryland's going to bag somebody in the big 10. That's big game. They're going to put a big pelt on their wall by the end of the year.

Yeah, you might be right. And it's the one, the one that sets up the worst is actually the one that I'm thinking will win the national title. The one you're, you've got, you know, pining for, and that's your alma mater because it sits in the middle of Penn state and Ohio state is the ultimate trap game. It's at Penn state at Maryland home for Ohio state.

Yeah. It's the ultimate trap game. But look, I think Maryland, Mike Loxley has done a terrific job there.

They have firepower, Tua's brother Talia has played really well. What I think is tough for them is this is a bad matchup, I think, for Maryland because, you know, any Giants fan looking, they have a dude who is like, went up against Marvin Harrison last year and did as good a job on Marvin Harrison as anybody has done. Now he's a first round pick in the NFL. He's not there. Jecorian Bennett, super fast corner on the other side.

He's not there. Their next best defensive back, who's still their target, but still kind of banged up last week. And this is not a team you want to, you want to be a little undermanned in the secondary. I know this because a couple of years ago, my crew did this game when it was in Columbus and the night before when our production meeting, you know, they had told us we're down three cornerbacks. I was like, oh boy, you know, and it's like, I think they're, they're a much improved team. I still think this is a, this is just a, a tough matchup.

Now having said that, they gave Ohio State all they could handle last year in, in College Park. So your assessment of the Red River Showdown, as you have written the words, Texas is back. I've read Texas is different. I am prouching myself.

Okay. So how is Texas different as opposed to being back? Because you know, Texas is back, that is the, that is the phrase that kind of is infused with horns down because how many times have Longhorn fencing, we are back.

And then they have three, four losses by the end of the year. So how do you assess this Oklahoma versus Texas matchup, three versus 12? On the Texas side, I think why they're different is because they are much more physical on both sides of the ball and the trenches. I mean, in 15 years, past 15 years, they've had two o-linemen drafted. This is Texas where like there are o-linemen everywhere, seemingly in high school football. And to Sarc's credit, he hired three of his best assistants and honestly, three of the best position coaches at what they do are guys that had worked for Nick Saban in Tuscaloosa. Bo Davis is the D-line coach, other D-line coaches think he's really, really good. The o-line coach, Kyle Flood, who you're from, you know, former Rutgers coach did a really good job developing o-linemen back in the day there. And then for Nick Saban, and he has done a tremendous job and those guys are going head to head every day in practice.

So it upgrades them. And then the other one, Jeff Banks is a special teams guy. A lot of people think he's the best special teams coordinator in college football. All guys that Sarc ended up getting who have Nick Saban pedigrees. And I think Sarc has, the coaches I've talked to who've either scouted Texas this year or already played them just said, Sarc has really evolved to the point where he's always been a really good play caller, but now he has ramped up the physicality. He's bought into that, you know, like obviously you have Lindale White and Reggie back in the USC days and they were so, so good. Against Texas.

Yes. But now it's like, you know, you lose Bijan, you lose Roshon Johnson, who was really good player and a total alpha guy for them. But they are running the football really, really well. I think they're a playoff team. I think they will be a playoff team. I think they're definitely the class of the big 12.

And Oklahoma, we had them a week ago at Cincinnati. Dylan Gabriel, the quarterback's a good player, he's accurate. I don't think, they don't have the C.D.

Lamb, they don't have Hollywood Brown, they don't have a Mark Andrews type. They have good receivers. I don't think they have anybody, like C.D. is take the game over guy. And even running backs, I don't think they have a Joe Mixon or even a Samaj P. Ryan. Their running backs are good, but I just don't think they have the high, high level skill talent and to me that they're a top 25 team and they're much improved from the team that won six and six and they're better on defense. But I think this is a game where Texas will end up pulling away because I just think they're the better team. Do you see a scenario, last one for you, was it a what's more likely Chris or a overreaction Monday topic where you said no SEC teams will make the playoffs?

Which one was that? Can you say something along those lines? Oh, it was just recently I said no three-peat. But what about no SEC teams making the playoffs? Do you see a world at all like that because who knows Georgia winds up with a loss and then the rest are undefeated or you've got a windup they lose twice, they get tripped up in league play and then lose in the SEC championship game.

Do you see any world like that? They have struggled, they struggled for a half, they were down against South Carolina. South Carolina is not that good and they were, like I said, they were down then they pulled away in the second half and then last week Auburn not very good. Now it's on the road, that's a tough place to play and Hugh Freeze is a good coach when it comes to setting things up and Peyton Thorn, you remember that name, Peyton Thorn, he looked like, I don't want to say he looked like Cam Newton running around, but he ran the ball better than he ever has against him, gave them some problems, then Brock Bowers rescued them.

Well he's just unfair. I don't know of a tight end, obviously Kyle Pitts went four. Bowers may go, I don't know, there's so many quarterbacks in the draft. And there's Marvin Harrison Jr. I know that.

I know that. But he's been top 10 in every mock draft I've seen. I would definitely think he is. Well here's the thing, if you're like drafting sixth and there's all these quarterback needs and someone's going to take Marvin Harrison Jr., you might get this game-changing player sixth, seventh overall. It's entirely possible if the draft board drops like that way in Detroit next year.

He's unbelievable. He could start Sunday today, like right now, if it wasn't Wednesday and he wasn't in college. He plays much bigger then because he's not a big tight end, he's 6'4", 240, seems to play bigger, he runs exceptionally well. He took over the game last week and bailed them out and he said that, so now they're going to get Kentucky who's 5-0 and we were impressive last week, albeit against Florida. I don't think they're going to be sneaking up on anybody and that's a problem maybe for, I think they'll get Georgia's best game and they'll get it probably for four quarters. There's nobody in the SEC right now who should beat them in the regular season, like Tennessee has, like Joe Milton does not look great, I mean there's been the most impressive thing I think he's done was he had a really long touchdown run where he looked exceptionally fast for being so big. Well that's what I'm just saying, somebody trips him up, let's say they lose to Kentucky and then they do play Alabama who's got two losses and then Georgia loses to Alabama and Alabama sends Georgia home and then suddenly you got Texas is undefeated, Michigan's undefeated, Ohio State's undefeated or Penn State's undefeated or Washington or Oregon or USC's undefeated. And then two Pac-12 teams get through, I mean that's what I'm just saying, I know it's still early. I don't think you get two Pac-12 teams and no SEC, I'd be really surprised if Georgia ended up as a two loss team. That's what it would have to be for them not to make it. I think so, their schedule is not going to be impressive at all because you had the Florida-Tennessee thing where they've been and we'll see what happens with Texas A&M playing Alabama this week. I mean obviously already LSU has two losses, I think the SEC West is as down as it has been since Nick Saban was in the NFL.

That's a long time ago. Great stuff as always Bruce, love our chats on Wednesday, everybody check out Bruce this weekend in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah, Big Noon's going to be in Brady Quinn's hometown. There you go, that'll be a lot of fun and I'm sure Urban won't have anything to crow about being back there on campus.

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Seasons one and two are available to binge right now and bonus episodes are coming soon. Imperative Entertainment presents In the Red Clay, get the podcast wherever you listen. Mike Del Tufo is standing at a microphone that's about I'd say 20 feet away, looking right at Mr. Wonderful of Kevin O'Leary of Shark Tank, go for it Mike Del Tufo. What happens if like something happens to me and 2500 miles away my family's there and they don't know, I could be sitting in the apartment alone dead for days. So I came up with an idea for an app called Just in Case that would be basically you download it and you could check in with this app and other people could see that A, you're alive still, you could basically be tracked with it. Just to get the whole story before I completely eviscerate you.

Go ahead. How would you make money doing this? Subscription per month. People are going to pay per month. 99 cents per month, very cheap. If your mom calls you for two days and doesn't get an answer she's probably going to call the super and say go check on his corpse.

Like think about it, they don't need 99 cents a month for that. But in theory wouldn't you want, if it's something you don't have to do, other people could check in. When you're dead you're dead.

Like who cares? How does the app know you're dead? The app doesn't know you're dead. You have to tell it you're not dead. I would tell you that you're not checking in.

Every time you unlock your phone it would ping and you put people on a list that know that if like your mother is in Florida, she could be sitting in the house. You know that at least she's checked in on her phone. If you're their kid, you don't have to talk to them on the phone, you don't have to call them.

And if it's a kid, you know the kid. If you think you're, if you're worried your mother's dead, why don't you call her? Call your mother, Mike. People don't call their mother and father, they live 2,500 miles away every day. Mom, I just want to make sure you're not dead. Mike, are you kidding? You should call your mother every day.

No, no, no. I'm talking about like all day. You don't know.

Oh, you want to know the exact moment your mother died. Yeah, you can check in if you know what they've actually done. Exactly. It's still a good idea. It's still great.

It's still. I'm staying. One of my favorite segments in the history of our show. Back here on our radio network, the Rich Asin Show desk I'm sitting at is furnished by Grainger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Grainger has the right product for you.

Call clickrainger.com or just stop by. Oh my gosh, we just showed the segment where Del Tufo is pitching an app idea to Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful of Shark Tank. I already existed. And then you just, you, oh my gosh, it was, it's so great. It honestly, like we turn nine later this month, I think next week, right? We turn nine? No, the sixth. Oh, is that right? So what's that? That's Friday.

Wow. So nine years old Friday, top five segment prices. I don't think anything that, that, that was great too, watching TJ on the Price is Right on live, which again is a latest example of me making sure I need to be as collaborative as possible here. Brockman's like, we should stop the show and watch it live. I'm like, we're on the radio. I don't think people were interested in it.

It turned out to be one of our best segments ever. And so, you know, honestly, that's in the clubhouse and then your app idea, you still to this day, you think it's, first of all, here's the biggest issue with this real quick in a nutshell. I didn't, I only had to do it like 24 hours. If I had planned and had like, I would have brought visually, you've been working on this idea for years. So you were saying you weren't, you weren't prepared enough. No, I told you the day before, like you were going to give you an opportunity to pitch your app idea that you've had for years to Kevin O'Leary, an overhead projector like Al Davis. I would have been set up, you know, another anniversary recently.

Oh my gosh, the planking, the planking was another fun. That's not a bad one. But speaking of a phone apps, um, in 29 minutes, all of our phones are going to go off at once for, you know, the whole country's been told, be ready. Don't be scared. Don't be frightened. But everybody's phone, TV stations, radio stations, maybe this one you're listening to right now, the emergency broadcast system, uh, is going to pop in and, you know, I guess FEMA's testing the national emergency system to basically say, Hey, this is only a test.

We're going to be United is one that's what's happening. I don't get those things. I think now, what do you mean you don't get those things? You can turn those off.

Yeah. He doesn't care about, I don't want to be interrupted by something. You can turn off on your phone. You can turn all these off.

Chris doesn't care about Amber or her. But don't you think like if there's an emergency, you'd like to know if there's an earthquake, I can feel it. I don't need a phone buzz to tell me that an earthquake is happening, but it's got nothing to do with that. It's got to do with some sort of emergency. You have no idea some sort of an attack that you'd like to give, get some sort of heads up on. But like, do you want me to be like your emergency buddy?

Or I'll text you. Hey man, I just got an alert. Yeah, I got an alert. Something's going down. Rich, we get tsunami alerts in Redondo all the time I sleep through them.

Or maybe about this, that you haven't adjusted your phone. Maybe it's the federal government telling you, we don't care about you. We've heard some of your takes on the Rich Ives Show for nine years. They're not a fan. They're not a fan. The person running the emergency service is a Niner fan. Yeah, I heard your awful Trey Lance takes. He's not on the team anymore.

And suddenly like they don't care about you. They're not sending you. Screw you. We'll let 334 million people know, not 334 million and one. It's fine. You're on a list.

I don't want your alerts. So that's what David Spade will be on this show just, I mean, literally is slated to be in this chair when this hits. Love it. The question we were having before the show is like, do we, do we just make sure it's during a commercial break or do we like count down?

Like it's new year's rock and we've got to record this for prosperity. I think we're going to just count it down. Right? Yeah. What can we get for a ball? All right.

As it's going down. The magic. Will Chris Brockman find out about the emergency magic eight ball. It's odd.

It's a screw Brockman. That's odd. I believe that. As I see it.

Yes. It says, Hey. So think about this. So there's going to be people out there who have burner phones and stuff, you're going to be like sitting at home and the, you know, the burner phones, people, honestly, I've read, I've read some of these stories saying that there are people who have hidden phones. It's going to go off and they don't, you know, you honestly, there are some people in, in 25 minutes, somebody's is up and I don't even want to get dark about it either.

But like also though, there might be people who like, Oh, this is kind of dark, but like you might have a phone for safety purposes. You might be in a relationship. That's not safe. You know, just this guy with this, go to notifications, go all the way down to the bottom, to government alerts and turn everything off.

Is that right? Really simple. Maybe the government's done that to you.

I want, I want mine to buzz. Great. Does that mean I don't have to pay taxes? Good luck with that.

No, you still have to pay taxes. Broc, when you said we should have gotten to the darkness retreat, we could have been in there. Oh, you think a buzz can't find you in the dark? You can turn off your phones or whatever. I think we should make a thing out of it. I'm turning my volume up. I want to be a part of that. That sounds scary.

I know that. When that goes off. When we were kids and you're just sitting there watching TV and then all of a sudden it pops in and you heard that, I would start freaking out just waiting. This is a test. This is only a test of the emergency broadcast system.

I think it was last. I'm like, dude, like Three Mile Island, it just happened and I'm sitting there in Staten Island. I'm like, oh my God. Somewhere in my house I had the old TV button because they used to have a button at each TV station and it would, they would test them.

You would hit it, then it would go to the next station, then the next station down the line. I got the button. The little, you did this? The scariest.

No, I took it when they closed the studio. The most scary technology ever made me as a kid is I'm at home by myself, okay? I'm watching The Shining.

I think I'm like, I'm like WHT, okay? I'm watching The Shining by myself and then all of a sudden my parents' VCR that was set on timer probably for Jeopardy went right off and I'm like, oh my God, like something that heard a click just by itself, all by itself. And I'm like, oh my God, turned Staten Island 510 Harold Street into the Overlook Hotel on the spot. I was freaked out. 510 Harold Street. Don't go in the maze. That's where I grew up, sir. Let's look at your house. That happened to me watching Amityville Horror once. Never again. Oh, scary.

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