REShow: Sauce Gardner - Hour 1 (2-7-2023)

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High expectations and medium return. Today's guests, Jets cornerback, Sauce Gardener. Host of the Dan Patrick Show, Dan Patrick. Jets wide receiver, Garrett Wilson. Jaguars quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

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Let's go. I've got a whole comfortable outfit on. You look great. I am. You look relaxed. I cannot wait.

I mean, just to go from big chair to big chair all the way to Phoenix, it's great. Three drinks. Bring them to me.

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I'm so thrilled. We didn't have time for it yesterday, but you have plans for Phoenix that I can't wait to unwrap for everybody. I have plans tonight. Good to see you. Tonight? Whoa. DJ Mikey D's and D's Nuts is already there.

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Brockman's right. When I came in, the first thing I said to you is like, man, you look comfortable. And then I used the word I can't say on Roku, but it signified that you look very comfortable. I am comfortable. I'm ready to roll.

Let's go. Very excited. Super Bowl week. I got two jets coming on and I can't wait to hear what they have to say about Aaron Rodgers. Roll on the rich eyes.

Thank you very much. A little Stephen Dorf to wake us up our Tuesday morning here in Los Angeles. I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't expecting the Dorf.

Sometimes the mouse is where it's supposed to be. Just happy. Good to see everybody here. All right. You know what? Let's spend a little time on jail and hurts. Let's be fair and balanced. Let's do it, man.

I like this kid. As you know, I started yesterday saying this is the Mahomes week because he is now in Super Bowl number three in five attempts in a row in the AFC championship game. First five years as a starter, he's made the AFC championship five times. He's now made the Super Bowl three times. If he wins, it gives him two.

That's pretty good. Put some on pace on track to get in the orbit in the galaxy that Tom Brady now resides all by himself. He's the last of us in that galaxy right there.

I'm the last of my kind. So he obviously is front and center and he was last night at the media night. It's always Jalen Hurts. Spent some time on this young man. When they won the Eagles, the NFC championship game, I took to Twitter and I put together a string of tweets that, pleased to say, went a little bit viral.

Even NFL Network decided to make a nice array out of the tweets for its Instagram page and and I think part of the reason why it got viral and got picked up is because it is an amazing story. And as you pointed out, Chris, when I just said his name, you're like, I like that guy. Yeah. He's so incredibly likable.

Absolutely. And I shouldn't like him and I do. And his story is so amazing that it needs to just be repeated as he is in the Super Bowl town as a Super Bowl quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. And it's not going to be the first championship game of his life because his journey in Alabama, where he was playing his college football, he gets benched in the middle of a national championship game. We all know this story, but it just bears repeating, just to say it all out loud, that he is 26-2 as a starting quarterback for Nick Saban. And he gets into the national championship game against their hated rival, Georgia. And he's benched in halftime. And in comes Tua Tungovailoa starting a conversation across the country saying, oh, gosh, guy wins 26 to 28 games as a starter and Nick Saban's benching him for somebody whose name I can't even pronounce. And Tua throws three touchdown passes, including one in overtime, to win and the entire off season and that night is consumed by, oh, gosh, the NFL can't wait for Tua to come. As a matter of fact, the conversation was the Miami Dolphins fell so in love with him, they started tanking for him on the spot when he looked off the safety and found, by the way, Jalen's current teammate Devontae Smith in the end zone for that touchdown. And he becomes the starter the next year.

So quit asking. And Tua dominates in that season and watching the entire time in this era when kids, when they're passed over for the other guy and done. So in the middle of the whole country's viewing window, kid says, I'm out, I transfer. Instead Jalen Hurts not only didn't transfer, he stayed and he didn't pout and he didn't do a single thing except stand there and support Tua and prepare as if he needed to play the game like a professional. And he was there the entire time watching Tua light it up.

I mean, absolutely light it up all season. Going into the SEC championship game the following year, Tua Tungovailoa had an incredible season where he threw only two interceptions and 36 touchdown passes. So not only is Hurts watching, the entire country is saying Sabin made the right move all along. Not only did they win the night that he inserted Tua, but their kid throws 36 touchdown passes, two interceptions, whole country saying he's going to be the first overall pick.

Meanwhile, there is a kid from Ohio having boiling blood down there in the bayou saying, oh, we'll wait on that. But at the time it was Tua's gig and 11 months after he gets supplanted in the middle of the game, national championship game in Atlanta between Georgia and Alabama. Georgia and Alabama are back in Atlanta, same building, same teams.

Now they're battling it out for the SEC championship. Tua throws two interceptions. He is hurt. He's in the blue tent for much of the game.

He gets stepped on by his own linemen with 11 minutes to go and Sabin goes, that's it. You're out. Hurts, grab your helmet.

Think about that. Hurts, you're in. Same opponent, same building.

Go get him, kiddo. And what Hurts does is march down the field, a game-tying touchdown pass to current Sean Payton wide receiver in Denver, Jerry Jeudy, capping a 16-play 80-yard drive to tie the game. A fake punt by Georgia blows up in their face. Hurts gets back on the field, marches down, and runs one in 15 yards out with a minute remaining and Alabama beats Georgia again.

And it's Hurts now. And what does Alabama do after that? They tell Hurts, thanks for playing.

Thanks for playing. And they go to the college football championship. They beat Oklahoma with Tua, wind up playing Clemson, and they wind up losing to our third hour guest, Trevor Lawrence. And Tua starts that game too. Thanks, Jalen.

See ya. At that point, Jalen goes, fine. I'll go to Oklahoma. And he goes there and makes the Heisman Trophy finalist podium with what he does in Oklahoma. Doesn't win it there like his predecessors, Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield, but he does get to the podium. And okay, now here's the kid who gets benched at Alabama. Guts it out.

Way to go. Wins the game. Has to go somewhere else. Doesn't win the Heisman like the two previous guys did. Falls through the first round. And Philadelphia is the one that drafts him. Really? Because they got Carson Wentz.

Really? Okay. Let's see what happens. Jalen has to sit and watch.

Finally, two thirds of the way through the season in which Carson Wentz plays so horribly, Doug Peterson, after saying, while Wentz is playing horribly, he's the guy. We're not going to Hurts. Goes to Hurts. And the kid lights it up. Only to be benched in the final game of the season because they needed to see what they had in the third string guy.

I still can't wait to get the 30 for 30 background on that benching. Don't understand it. Don't get it. Hurts is standing there in front of the whole country because again, it's a Sunday night football game in which the Eagles are out because Wentz was so horrible in the first two thirds of the season. Washington needs to win to get in. And if they lose, the Giants get in. The New York football market and the Washington DC football market, the entire East Coast seaboard from New England, pretty much all the way down to the Carolinas is watching.

The whole country might be watching. And he gets benched again. Next year, it's his job. He gets the team through to the playoffs, barely. Seventh seed. They go to Tampa. They get curb stomped by Tom Brady.

One and done. Here we go into this year. And even then, there are people in Philadelphia who are like, why are we sticking with this guy? All these first round draft choices that Howie Roseman is amassing, it's got to be for some kid that we're going to draft. Once again, overlooked. Now here he is. Super Bowl quarterback. Unbelievable. MVP candidate, Super Bowl quarterback, the owner of the Eagles, Jeffrey Laurie, knowing that it's a contract year, by the way, for Jalen Hurts. Yep. Because he's a second round pick, you don't get a fifth year option on him.

It's coming up. Contract year is coming up for Jalen Hurts. Are you going to let him walk into his fourth year and not pay him? He's going to, after all this, going to walk in with no contract extension.

Really, when guys who don't get to this level three years into their career get pizzade like Kyler Murray, the guy who he followed in Oklahoma. We're not going to pay him, right? Jeff Laurie says he's already proven everything. He's our guy. Bag on the table for Jeffrey Laurie.

You even said it yesterday, Chris, in the overreaction Monday. Shouldn't he be, get the most guaranteed money of any quarterback that's out there, that's being asked to be paid right now, including Herbert and Burrow? And you gotta say, yeah. Especially if he wins on Sunday. More than Lamar? More than anybody who wants their money right now.

Absolutely. He's gotten the Philadelphia Eagles back to the Super Bowl. He's an MVP candidate. I think he would probably have won it. For sure he will win it. I think we'd go into this game like he's definitely the guy. If he didn't get hurt and the Eagles finished up with just one loss on their docket, having maybe gone into Dallas and beaten Dallas, and then that New Orleans game wouldn't have unfolded that way, one would think. Unbelievable story.

And the fact that he can win it all and in many different parts of this football loving nation favored to do so, despite the underdog shirts that Jason Kelce and some of the other Eagles came off the plane in yesterday. What a story. Can't believe it. Love it. This is what Jalen Hurts had to say last night about how everything I just laid out for you still plays in his heart and mind every day of his life.

There's nothing new. You know, it's something that I embrace. It's something that I embrace. I embraced all the opinions. I embraced all of the hate, the doubt, and I didn't let it define me. And I won't start letting it define me now.

Love it. That's how you lead a team. That's how people follow. That's what you want. That's what you want. When you have an NFL team.

That's the guy. Philadelphia found a good one. And Jeff Lurie intends to pay him and he deserves every penny. And what a testament to hard work and self-belief.

844-204-RICH numbered a dollar right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Sauce Gardener lacking zero in the, what you want to say, doubt department. One of the best in the NFL now. Just one year in. He's exactly why I wanted the Jets to draft him.

Culture changer. Baller on the field. Garrett Wilson as well. Two rookie of the year candidates. And I'm sure Garrett Wilson would have had another teammate up there had he not gotten hurt in Breece Hall.

That's for darn sure. Those are our guests. First two player guests. Dan Patrick in between him.

Trevor Lawrence after him. 844-204-RICH numbered a dollar here on the Rich Eisen Show. When we come back, Sauce Gardener. Bring me sauce.

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Call click Grainger dot com or just stop by. When the New York Jets sat there fourth overall in the draft, who did I who did I come back from the combine and say, I want this guy? Man, you are talking about this dude. You were team sauce. Everyone thinks they need this offensive guy. They had an offensive guy.

And, you know, they had two first rounders in the top 10. So I'm like, but we'll get the offensive guy later. This was your guy from day one.

Jump jumps. I said, great. I said, bring me sauce. All the sauce. You want every last ounce of barbecue.

That's honey mustard. All of it. Every every combination possible.

Pomodoro marinara. All of it. I want it. You wanted it. You demanded it. Yes. Needed it.

Needed that. Bring me sauce. And I said the same thing for Super Bowl week. He's like, for Super Bowl week.

He's a defensive rookie of the year candidate courtesy of Tums. Sauce Gardner. How are you doing?

Sauce. Hey, man. I'm great, man. How are you doing? I appreciate you for having me as well.

You know that always, always great to be, to be here with you, please. Sauce. Am I the first to have pounded the table for you from New York city that you'd heard of?

Am I the first to say, bring me sauce? Definitely. Definitely, man. You and I are always going to have this. Always. You know that, right? Always.

Yeah. It will never be broken. The bond will never be broken. I could have, honestly, I said, I don't care about anybody else. I want Sauce Gardner. I envisioned your success in New York before anybody else.

So I couldn't, whatever. I don't know where I'm going with this. I'm just so excited. You're looking like, it's kind of like you want to pat on the back yourself for Sauce's greatness. I appreciate it, man. Very good. I appreciate it. Okay. I'm just covering one.

That's all I'm doing. So how do you rate your season, Sauce? How do you rate it? I would probably say, I mean, it was pretty decent. I mean, it's a lot of plays. There's a lot of plays I missed out on. A lot of plays that could have been made on my end. You know, I feel like that could have changed the game even more. So, you know, I can't just say I had this great season.

I had this awesome season because there's so many plays that I could have made to help the team. So, yeah, man. I don't know. Above average, for sure. Well, I mean, first team All-Pro is a rookie. You don't just come right out of the box, usually, and do that.

Certainly at a position like corner, for sure. So, for you, what do you think you need to improve on, then, Sauce Gardner? It's a lot, man. Let me see. First of all, all the type of takeaways. Like, I had opportunities to intercept the ball, to punch at the ball, to rake at it in takeaways. Takeaways.

I would say more takeaways for the defense. Sure, man. I'm just trying to be an even better teammate. You know, I got the right guys around me.

DJ Reed, Cornel Williams, CJ Moseley. There's a lot of other guys who I could just learn from. So, I'm trying to be an even better teammate. So, those are the two main things.

Okay. What's an aspect of living in New York, New Jersey that you learned about, that you didn't know going in? You're a kid from Detroit, played college in Cincinnati. What about living in New York and New Jersey that's new for you? Jersey, it's pretty cool. You know, it's quiet.

There's not too much going on. But, like, in terms of New York, like, everybody, I would say it's a manner thing. Like, people really be walking extra fast. Like, they didn't make mistakes bumping to you, but they walk so fast, they don't even say excuse me. So, it's like, you know what I mean?

That's probably one of the main things. Anytime I'm in New York, people just walk so fast. Well, I mean, when I went to Michigan for the first time when I showed up in Ann Arbor, I'm from Staten Island.

I'm from the fifth and forgotten borough of New York City. And I couldn't believe that when I would just step a foot in the street in the state of Michigan, cars would stop. I didn't understand that. So, I then become to expect that to happen.

And then when I went back home to New York, and I did that, I almost got killed. So, that's the difference. That's another difference. People drive fast, too. Definitely is different. You know what I mean?

A lot of horns honking in New York. All right. But it seems like you're well suited for it, right? Seems like you're well suited for it. I am. I am for sure.

Let's jump into this sauce. Did you say on NFL Network this morning that you know something about something about the quarterback position in New York City sauce? Yeah, but in terms of that, I was just meaning like, you know, I know Joe, I know Joe Douglas and Coach Siler.

I know they're gonna make the best decision that's for the 10. That's all I meant by that. I didn't mean that too deep. I didn't mean that too deep.

Too deep. I see you're tweeting it Aaron Rodgers, though. Are you tweeting it? Did I see that?

I don't know. I mean, I forgot what I had to say to him. Well, actually, that's what your tweet was, is that you said, you know, you reached out to me, you said, oh no, never mind. I mean, then you hit send on that.

What is it? Yeah, so it's like I was just tweeting on my thoughts. So basically, like, I think I had something to say to him about just life or something in general.

I don't remember, but I forgot what I had to say, but I still clicked send. See, now, this is why you're so bold, Sauce. One of the many reasons why, because why would he respond to you when you and the rest of the defense went into Lambeau Field, put the bang thing on him, and then you put a cheesehead hat on in Lambeau Field? I would think he's not really receptive to hearing from you, Sauce, right?

You say that? Oh, I mean, there's a chance of that, but that's kind of why I deleted the tweet, because it's like he's probably not even going to have a response anyway. But I don't know if he's still emotional about that.

I don't know if he even got emotional about it, you know? Does that add a character for you? I don't see anything like that. You did anything like that the rest of the year, Sauce, right?

I don't see that. Nah, I don't think I did anything like that for the rest of the year, but that game was so electric. There were so many Jessmans there, man.

So after the game, just looking at the stats and just seeing all the Jessmans still cheering. Then one of them handed me that cheesehead. It was just like a movie. It felt like a movie for real.

Well, I mean, and then obviously the plot had a twist towards the end. So was there any issue between the offense and the defense this season in that locker room? No, everything was cool in the locker room.

Everything was cool in the building, you know what I mean? The defense, we did our thing. Offense, they did their thing, but at the end of the day, we're still brothers. In the locker room, we still hung out.

We still hung out in the facility and outside of the facility. So it wasn't really that like, when I say defense, we did what we did. Defense, we focused on what we had to do to help the team. We wasn't too busy worrying about what the offense had to do because then if we make a mistake, it's like we're watching what they got going on and we're not watching what's right in front of us. So we were just focusing on trying to be the most dominant defense that we possibly can be.

Of course, and obviously you were playing like that. The offense just had so much trouble. I mean, it didn't score a touchdown in the last darn near month of the season.

That's why I think when Roger's name gets mentioned, light bulbs go on. Do you think that this is entirely possible based on your two cents, hearing your ear to the ground, what the locker room might think if Aaron Rogers decides to come, that's all good in your hood? I mean, I don't really care.

Like I said, I'd be focused on the defense for real. You probably got to ask Gary. I got to tell Gary. Okay. Well, he's coming up next.

He's coming up next hour. Yeah, yeah. I heard you say that. That's what I'm saying.

You got to say that for Gary. Oh, you're passing up that business decision? You let him take the hit? That's what you're saying?

Yeah, man. Hopefully he don't make a rookie mistake with his hands. No, I mean, look, we all obviously know Zach Wilson struggled in year two, and that's the question.

I'll just put a point blank question to you, Sauce Gardener, because you and I are like that. If Zach's the starter next year week one, that's cool with everybody in the building? I mean, it's cool with the defense. I know Joe and Coach Silas don't make the best decisions. I can only talk about like in a game when we're playing my quarterback's coach, that's my right-hand guy.

That's my right-hand guy right there. You know what I mean? First and foremost, he never even let us like, you know, it's easy to get distracted. Especially if you got a coach in front of you, you're all watching the tape, we're all watching the tablets and with the offense, what your opponent's doing on offense side, and you're watching the offense and it's like, dang, this is next. He was the coach who always snapped me out of it, who always snapped the rest of the secondary out of it, if we got to worrying about everything except what's in front of us. You know what I mean?

So I don't know. All I can talk about is like in practice, Zach Lewis was that guy, like he was making throws that Aaron Rodgers would make. He's extremely talented and he's a great teammate.

It's definitely in him, a hundred percent. Sauce Gardner here on the Rich Eisen Show. How was the Pro Bowl? How was that for you? Pro Bowl was cool, man, being able to just be there with guys like Bray Lewis, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Snoop Dogg, and being up there with guys who I went against on Sundays, guys who I talk trash to, talk trash to me, and us just being able to go there and have a great time.

That was the good part about it. Who you talking trash to? Who you talking trash to?

What do you mean? You know, like me and Jamar Chase, we had on the, you know, that's what I did. It was a lot going on this past season, man, but it was cool. Even Tyree Hill a little bit, but Tyree Hill, he wasn't really talking too much trash and I wasn't really talking too much trash to him either because I know how much he respect the game and I know how much he really just, he a competitor, so he really don't talk too much trash and he kind of let his game do the talking. So I wouldn't really talk too much trash.

Well, I mean, you know, Chase, Jamar's one particular beast, but I would be careful of Diggs. I mean, when you're talking trash to him, that's something I think he files away. Don't you think, Sauce? Like he files, that's him. He says he's him, Sauce.

He definitely did say that. So if he's him, who are you? Well, who are you if he's him? If he's him, who are you, Sauce? I mean, I'm me. Like, you know, I don't really, I don't know, man. You know, there's a lot of hims out there.

You know, there's a lot of guys who say they, you know, they help. All right. Let's just be careful of Diggs. You see him twice a year, man. I think he files that away.

He's going to pop that one out on him. You be careful. All right. I'm just, I'm just trying to give you some help there. I got you, man.

I got you. What is Tums Worthy? What is Tums Worthy? What is this game that you're doing with Tums Sauce?

What is this? All right. So like, you guys make my name.

I got the nickname, Sauce. Yes. You know, so it kind of, it kind of went for real, you know, because I enjoy the heat of the competition on game day. Yes, sir.

First and foremost. And that's like, that's why I'm excited to team up with Tums on their new word guessing game. Like you said, it's called Tums Worthy and it's for this year's big game. So it's just, it's a word guessing game and it's going to get real competitive.

And it's something that I wanted to be a part of for sure. Okay. So is there, is it a game? Like if I think of something, you have to guess it. Is that what it were? Is that how it works?

How's it work? They're going to, they're going to give you like hints. Okay. Going to give you hints of what it could possibly be. Yeah. Okay. And you just got to guess it. Okay. If you can't guess it, then I'm going to be the guy to help give you the hint. Okay.

Like an even deeper hint. Okay. So let's play it. I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of two words. Okay. Two words. It's a, it's a, it's, it's what I, and, and the hint is, this is what I really, really want from you Sauce Gardener. Two words.

What do you think? Oh, two words. Here's a hint. Here's a hint. Here's a hint. One hint. Uh, it's really easy.

It's it's the name of the team you play for. Okay. So you know what the word is, right? Okay. Yes. Correct. That's it. That's the first one. And the second one is the name of the game that's being played Sunday. You got it.

You ready? Say it for me. Say it for me.

Those two words together, Sauce Gardener. Say it, say it for me, please. Yes, you win. Yes. I want to show up. I've been covering 20 of these, man. Okay. This is my 20th Superbowl sauce.

20. I'm going to show up in a Superbowl stadium. And I want to see those four letters in the end zone. And I want to see you dancing in it. Do you hear me? Okay. Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

Is that Tom's wordy for you? Yes. I win. I win.

What do I win? Hold on a minute. The prize is, hold on a minute. Wait for it. $57,000 cash prize. Hey, hold on. What?

No, that's backwards. What is that? What is it? 75,000? Is that what it is? No. I win the $57,000. I guessed it. Wait a minute.

I left my wallet at home. You got 10 over there, Chris? I'm the wrong guy to ask.

Chris got a bunch of ones over there. All right. Tumswordy.com to sign up for free and get ready for game day. Sauce Gardener, keep balling. Keep balling. Are you going to come to LA at any point in time in your future? Sounds bad. I was just in LA like twice, like a couple of weeks ago doing marketing.

Okay. Well, you know, that's where I'm at. I've been going coast to coast, man.

Like, look, it's been great. I was just in Vegas. I was just in Vegas yesterday.

And instead of me going straight to Arizona from Vegas, I had to come all the way back here for some new marketing while just to go back to Arizona tomorrow. But you cover everything, Sauce. Doesn't matter. We're good.

You're young. You cover everything. So here's the deal.

When you're in Los Angeles, you know, look, I know I'm a 53-year-old man with three kids, but I have one show, and there's a chair right here. We got to hang. Let's do this, please. Okay? I got you. Excellent. All right, Sauce.

You go crush it. I hope to see you in Arizona. And again, what's the Tumswordy two words? I just want to hear it one more time.

What do you got for me? Jet Super Bowl. We all win. Thank you, Sauce.

Take care of yourself. Congrats on a great rookie season, and I hope to see you. I guess I'll see you at NFL Honors.

That's for sure, right? You'll be there Thursday night? Hopefully, man.

Hopefully. Okay. Very good. I'll see you there. Thanks again, Sauce.

Thank you. That's Sauce Gardner, courtesy of Tums. I need to give him hints. For the defense, it'd be good for Zach. Bring me Garrett Wilson.

Garrett will have the answers to your question. For the defense, we're good. I think maybe the two words threw him off, because Jet Super Bowl is three words. No, I think Super Bowl is one word in certain parts.

It depends. You've seen it spelled as one word and a hashtag. So what? It's my Tumswordy game.

I get it. That's your guy. Two words on Google.

It's Rich Wordy. Jet Super Bowl. Sauce. That's your dude, man. From day one, I mean, I give you props. I came back from the combine.

You really did, man. And I'm like, I want him. That's my man right there. I just saw the way he handles his business. I saw the way he handles his business. He was all pro this year.

He's ridiculous. When I saw him at the NFL network, I guess, green room area or shooting room area where they shoot those prospects in the tube, the shiny tube with the confetti. And they tell him to hold the football shot for those hero shots going to break and whatever. I saw him there and I saw him reach for something. And I literally saw his wingspan. And I saw how tall he is. And I saw how nice he was to everybody and how chill he was. And then I heard stories about him.

And then I'll tell this story. I'm walking in with Wink Martindale, who had just gotten the job with the Giants. Okay, not the game show host. Wink Martindale. The coach. Yes. And he came in.

I'm walking next to him. It's the defensive back's day. And the Giants drafted, when did the Giants draft? Didn't they draft fifth in draft last year?

They take sauce, right? And then it was then after that, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm like- Giants for fifth. Right.

Jets for fourth, right? And I remember he said to me, walking in, he goes, there's a kid here today I would love to get with the fifth overall pick. Now, he might've said the same thing to me as I'm walking in with the defensive end group and Kayvon Thibodeau was, as you know, not working out. Remember he didn't work out and we're like, what's going on?

Turned out all right. But he walked in and I knew exactly what he was talking about. He's talking about this kid. And I'm like, that's it.

That's it. I want sauce. But I made it in my head, walking in after Wink said that to me.

And I'm walking in, I'm like, I'm going to go back. I'm like, if this kid works out the way that I think he's going to work out, going back on the air on this show, first day, coming back, this is the kid I want. You got him. And then he said above average. First team, oh, he's a first team old pro.

That tells you something there. Cause he really, look at the rest of the names on the first team on the pro list. He hesitated. He was like, well, I mean, he's gotta be at least, you know, somebody named sauce. He's got a little bit of humility, a whole lot of human. Tariq Wolin only make the pro ball. He was terrific. Tariq Wolin.

He was great. Fifth rounder. He was the one who was beat on the, he was the one who was beat on the, the Tom Brady catch non-catch and then a lender for an end interception targeting Tom Brady. Brady had him beat. Then Tom slipped. Tom got flagged for tripping.

Cause he slipped. Yeah. In Germany, craziness, what a day, what a week we got all set up here. 844204rich number to dial. We'll take your phone calls.

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Monster.com. I believe, let me get his name right. I believe it's Rami in Minnesota. Line one, J Felley. What's up, Rami? How you doing first in first up?

Did I get it right this time? Yeah, you pronounced the name right this week, but it's Montana, not Minnesota. I said Minnesota because that's the video that we just showed.

We just played it. It is in Minnesota. Montana.

Oh my gosh. What's up, Rami? How are you, Mr. Montana? Two things. I'm great. How are you, Rich? I'm good. What's on your mind? Right on.

Two things real quick. LeBron and Jalen Hurts. I grew up a Lakers fan as a kid since we will rock you in the Great Western Forum. Loved Magic and Kareem. I'm really actually glad to see LeBron pass Kareem in a Lakers uni, even though he'll be primarily remembered as a Cav, obviously. And then to Jalen, both my parents went to OU and I greatly appreciate Jalen's leadership skills as a son of a coach and an extremely talented quarterback.

And as a 49ers fan, I'm rooting for Philly. So I also love start, bench, cut. So I love that. That one with Aaron Rodgers. That was great.

Yeah, it was in Minnesota, which is why, I mean, thanks for the call, Rami. I appreciate it. Yeah.

Like I said, muscle memory. Have a good one. Right.

Be well, brother. They're in Montana where I saw news that Yellowstone might be coming to an end potentially. Well, Costner might be leaving. I don't know.

And then McConaughey might be sliding in. I don't know what's going on. All I know is I watched 1923, the latest episode with Suzy last night. What a great show. Yeah, we're going to rip through 1883 and then get to 1923.

Just be careful. Ripping through 1883. Well, we watched the first episode. It was like, whoa. Brother, when you get to the end, have a box of tissues handy. 1883.

Suzy cried from the first minute to the last. Oh, geez. All right. And I mean, Tim McGraw and Faith Hill are spectacular.

Yeah, he was so good in the first episode. Spectacular. All right.

Good to know. So it's so good. But anyway, LeBron. Well, it's funny. Yesterday, we spent many minutes on this program talking about his Maybe It's Me tweet after the Lakers did not acquire Kyrie Irving. You took it to mean LeBron thinking that, oh, maybe it's me. Kyrie didn't want to come here. I took it to mean Maybe It's Me, where he doesn't understand why the Lakers don't go all out to get the team for him to win in his 38th year on the planet, the way that he's currently balling out, like he's 28 or he's 18. That whatever it takes, they should go ahead and do. It doesn't matter.

Go ahead and do it. That's the way I took it. And he sat down with Michael Wilbon and he talked about how much he likes Kyrie and how he's a guy that he has a chemistry with.

And boy, it would have been nice to have gotten a guy who he's got a track record of playing well with. But he's already moved on. He's after being disappointed, he's placed it aside.

And that's the Maybe It's Me. Maybe It's Me, but I don't believe he's placing it aside. I have a feeling he's quite pissed. This is his moment.

This is his window. This is what I think he probably deep down thinks the Lakers, you're about winning championships, right? You're about hanging banners. You're about championships and statues and moments like the one that he's in line to provide the Lakers tonight with what, 37 points this evening? He needs 36 tonight. To pass it? Yeah, to pass it.

Got it. So he needs 36 to pass it, 35 to tie it. The it being the all-time scoring record of one of the all-time great Lakers in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. He could be the number one all-time scorer in the history in the history of this great association tonight.

And the Lakers, I'm sure, have an entire dog slash pony act for the moment it happens. Can you imagine? What if it happens at like, you know, two minutes to go, tight game? Are you gonna stop it?

Have a whole ceremony? I don't know. Yes, right? I mean, I think they're probably hoping it'll be like some 12-point lead, early fourth.

He lights it up, you know. Tomorrow night would be truly the night to do it, because it's Milwaukee coming in. The reason why, you know, there's no lakes really around here. There's a Thursday night.

Oh, Thursday night? There's a Toluca Lake, you know, there's some other lakes here. There's Silver Lake, which is the town. Okay, but the reason why it's the Los Angeles Lakers is because this team used to belong, you know, to the state of, you know, Minnesota. And right next door is Milwaukee, and there's the Bucks coming in.

I don't know, like, it just makes sense to me. Even though, you know, it's still not, obviously, if the Timberwolves were in town, there would be Minnesota. Look, all I know is this is a franchise that's about nights like tonight, and LeBron is the one providing a night like tonight. And that's part of the reason why the Lakers really loved getting him, is a generationally Mount Rushmore type guy. So he's probably sitting there saying, I could have gotten Kyrie.

Maybe it's me, but I think I would do it. That's what I think maybe it's me means. What I heard, what he said from, you know, the conversation with Wilbon, but what does it matter if they don't get somebody for him on Thursday night? He says, just if they're healthy getting into the playoffs, they could beat anybody. That's a heck of a statement. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you got 23, or if you weren't six now, I guess.

Right. You got him, you got a chance. And you got Anthony Davis playing like that. Who is number 23? He's playing pretty well. So you got a chance with those two guys.

Maybe it's me. I don't think he's really turned the page on it. So there's that here in Los Angeles. We're heading to Arizona.

Dan Patrick's already there. He's calling us at the top of the next hour to talk about Super Bowl 57. And then Garrett Wilson talks to us about what's going on with the JETS.

And he's got a chance to be defensive rookie of the year. That's coming up hour two. We are still sitting here on Roku. All right, Jay. Next hour, we're going to get to you. Why is somebody calling in about this? Do we know? I don't know that guy. All right.

I think he's a fan. Chris and Oregon, hang on. We're going to take your call in a second. I see it down here. This is great. Rich, I just saw Roger Sherman. Remember him from a few years ago?

I do. You sat behind him at the tournament. Yeah. So apparently Ed Hockley's behind sat in front of me, actually. Right. Ed Hockley's law firm is between the Super Bowl Media Center and where a lot of the media are staying. Oh, really? And he's like, I walk past it five, six times a day. And I can't stop thinking about Ed and they're doing bicep curls. Are you saying Ed Shingle is right in between where we're going to be commuting to work? Yeah. Next three days?

Jones, Skelton and Hockley. Do you want to knock on my door, see if he wants to come by? I think we got to see if he's around. Here's what we're going to do.

Why wouldn't we want Ed Hockley? Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to invite Ed onto the Rich Eisen Show. I will knock on the door. He knows me. I know him.

Yeah, history. I will knock on the door and I will say, please come on. And we will end one of the shows doing bicep curls together. This is the only because I'm working so hard.

I'm not going to have any time to work out. Right. Using the Rich Eisen Showtime, doing bicep curls with Ed Hockley. I think that's great.

Boom. That's a show. That's a show. Why am I watching it?

Because it's on TV. Not yet. That's how it might go. That's how it might go.