REShow: Lane Johnson - Hour 3 (10-4-2022)

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Get out of here. Earlier on the show, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes. From NBC Sports, Peter King. ESPN NFL analyst Robert Griffin the third. Still to come, Eagles tackle Lane Johnson. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

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Hang up from someone. Well, we just talked to, had a great conversation with Patrick Mahomes, who's good at football. He's good at football. Yeah, he's really good.

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Very good. What was it like seeing Doug Peterson on the other sideline on Sunday? Yeah, I mean, it's like a bittersweet moment, you know. Obviously, somebody who had a tremendous impact on my career and a lot of players in that locker room, and you know, with how the business works in the NFL, sometimes you don't get a chance to say proper goodbyes, but we appreciate it even, and you know, we'll probably see that team down the road. I talked to a really good football team. Okay, you cut out, you cut in and out right there, Lane, so if you're moving around, if it's cool to just find a good spot so I can hang on your every word, which is what I'd appreciate.

It's cutting in and out, actually. How about now? Let's try one more time here. Put Lane back on hold, and let's see what we can do right here so we can have a great conversation with him, because there's so much to talk about with him. Did you see Jalen Hurts was on the Manning cast last night? Did you see that one? I sure did. And did you see the fact that Michael Irvin's reaction, appearance, about talking about the, you know, what do you say?

What about Jalen being the, taking the temperature and being the... Don't take the temperature, be the thermometer. Yeah, and then he got out of his chair and he lost it. Are you there, Lane? You back? Yeah, I'm back.

It's like you're sitting next to me. Alright, so walk me through again what it was like seeing Doug Peterson on the other sideline? Yeah, it's like a bittersweet moment, you know, with how the NFL works. Sometimes you don't get a chance to say your proper goodbyes, but no, we just, you know, appreciated, you know, all the good years we had with him. There was a lot of good ones and told him that we missed him and, you know, ultimately we'll probably see that team again.

I feel like they're a team that's getting better and has a lot of promise to them. What did Kelcey do with the rain jacket he got, do you know? Where is that now? I think he was just trying to get something, whatever he could, I don't know if it was his hat or his rain jacket. I guess, you know, how players, you know, in their swap jerseys. So that was his swapping jerseys moment. Well, so walk me through your view of Jalen Hertz's ascent and maturation, what he was like when he first walked in the huddle and what he's like right now.

Yeah, I mean, it's really, nothing can take the place of experience. I think having game time experience, understanding what the NFL is about, and I think it really helped with, you know, him maturing and then obviously with every great quarterback there's great playmakers. So I feel like some of the additions we made in the offseason, along with a talent that we already had, it's helping him, but I feel like even, you know, really this whole offseason we spent a lot of time throwing the ball downfield in training camp whenever we, you know, had our joint practices.

We spent a lot of time, you know, throwing the ball downfield knowing that, you know, we had a play action, you know, run type of identity, but whenever we need to tell the football we can and to do it well. So he's, you know, put obviously a lot of time in and hard work and, you know, you just see it by how he carries himself and by how he plays and just keeps getting better and better. Can you give me an example of how he carries himself and how that might be contagious amongst you and the rest of the team, Lane?

I'll say it again. Is there an example of that how he carries himself that might be considered contagious and how that leadership exudes and carries through the rest of the team? Yeah, I mean really, I mean you could say he's got a little bit more vocal, but he's always worked very hard and, you know, whenever he breaks the team out, you know, a lot of his words have a lot of substance to it, but just his demeanor, you know, even when we win, you know, he doesn't, we don't get too happy and when we lose we don't get too down ourselves.

We just, we know it's a long season, it's a marathon and you have to, you know, maintain at a consistent level and it all goes down to, you know, what we do every day when we're practicing. Does that mean you remember what it was like to lose, Lane? Is that what you just said, pretty much? Say it again?

I don't know why the connection is that. Did you just basically say you remember what it was like to lose? Right there. Yeah, I was saying even when we lose, you'll learn from it and grow from it and become better from it. Yeah, like losing like last year. You're the lone remaining undefeated, yeah, lone remaining undefeated team right now and so what is the sense in the locker room of a team that is the last remaining undefeated team? You know, is there any reminder of what was in that championship season to you, Lane? I mean, every team's different. I just feel like the, you know, the veteran leadership we have is similar, but I mean, it's a long season. There's a lot of stuff that can happen and, you know, the main thing is just to keep a support focus.

Keep going to go. I feel like we have a lot of talent ability, but, you know, our division is a lot better than what it was last year. Yeah, man, we do have reminders, you know, of last year. I mean, we started out, I think, you know, 1-4, 1-5.

Not where we needed to be, so knowing that, you know, we can battle through adversity if it hits, but, you know, our main thing is to start fast and keep the foot on the pedal. What makes the running game work so well, do you think? A lot of it goes down to scheme. I think having a mobile quarterback makes, you know, defending him that much harder, especially with the run game and how we do things. Then it goes down to, you know, the guys we have on the ball. I feel like we have a pretty big offensive line.

You know, you have Jordan and Landon over there that, you know, probably average 360 or more. Not too light in the center and the right side of the line, too, but really, you know, our online coach is very good at what he does. Whenever guys have come in and out, they produce, you know, just like this past game, but a lot of going out, and Isaac, him all going out. You know, we had backups ready to come in and play, and so, yeah, that's really our mindset, but, yeah, we attacked it every day. Our coach is very good at what he does, and, you know, a lot of what we do is fine off the football. When Nick Sirianni came in, Lane Johnson, did he say we're gonna run the football? Did he say that this is going to be the hallmark off of which everything works? Was that expressed when he first arrived in Philly? I don't know, man.

I think it's kind of evolution. Obviously, you come in, you have an idea of what the offense is like. You know, he was in Indianapolis. He was under Frank Reich, so we kind of had an idea what type of offense that we want to run, but I think it, you know, evolves with the personnel that you have, so you see, you know, kind of as practices go on and games go on, you see what, you know, what things are more favorable for our offense and what isn't, and you kind of mold it into what it is, so I feel like last year we were, you know, throwing the ball very heavily, and then I think around the Detroit game, we started, you know, run, that was our first really game. I think we had it with over 200 yards, and then we started to, you know, build off of that, and so when you can run the football and control the line of scrimmage and control the time of possession, it makes the game a lot easier for yourself. And then, obviously, the defense is balling out, too.

What is, I mean, I've seen him from afar on television and from high up at the combine, but what's Jordan Davis like eye-to-eye when you see him, Lane? You know, we just have a lot of talent. We have a lot of ability. I remember being in training camp and, you know, having some of the additions, you know, with the Kobe, and then, you know, obviously Jordan Davis, you know, having him as a huge presence, putting him over the center, you know, you can isolate Fletcher Cox, you can isolate Jamon Hargrave, Josh Sweat, you know, Asan Beazley, you can get those matchups that you want to, the one-on-ones, and that's what we're doing, and, you know, even with the rotation of guys that we have, there really isn't a big drop-off, and, you know, with most great teams, if you have a good height, it's creating a lot of pressure, making it hard for, you know, opposing quarterbacks to get the offense going. I know it's a lot of fun from the sidelines. I can imagine, you know, watching as well. It's a lot of fun watching those guys fly around, but, you know, it's something they've been doing really since training camp, and we've known that.

Last thing for you, Lane Johnson. I mean, in my end of the business, it was all Buffalo Bills conversation winning the Super Bowl this year, and you guys have raised your hand in a way that has certainly caused a lot of attention over the first four games as you head into Arizona right now. Are you guys talking Super Bowl in your locker room? Are we thinking Super Bowl?

Normally, we're really thinking Arizona Cardinals. I mean, I feel like, you know, from the media standpoint, with every progression of the week, it's, okay, this team's going to be in the Super Bowl. That's what the fans like to talk about, but from an internal perspective, you know, it's a long season. We know we have a good team with a good D-line.

J.J. Watt, Kyler Murray, you know, quarterback for them. You know, you just got to take it one at a time. I know it's cliche as it sounds. It's really what it is. If you lose focus or get comfortable in this league at any time, you can get exposed. So, you know, playing in the league for a long time, I've seen that.

I witnessed that, and, you know, my job is to, you know, trigger Wednesday and Thursday like it's a game day. And hopefully, it carries over to the game. Well, if anybody who knows, obviously, about Murray's story and Jalen Hurts' story, it would be an Oklahoma Sooner like yourself. And, you know, obviously, Hurts was the one who took over once Kyler got drafted into the league.

And I just want to circle back to Hurts for one quick second. It's just knowing his history, right? What happened with him at Alabama and him going to Oklahoma and then getting drafted and then Carson Wentz being there. And the fact that he is now doing what he is doing, I'm wondering what you... Is that part of the leadership aspect that you and maybe other of your teammates think about? Like his journey and his role on this team now? Yeah, I just think when you look at his journey, just how, you know, he handled his adversity in college.

You know, going from a championship program like Alabama, being in the spotlight, you could say it's almost like an NFL team, just with their production and success. And just how he handled it, you know, with kind of class and grace with a to-it situation. You know, I just feel like he just worked his way out of it. I feel like, you know, he's always had a kind of a con demure. And, you know, doesn't say a whole lot, but when he does, there's really a lot of something with substance that he likes to bring to light. But, yeah, that was impressive to me.

Just, you know, I'm an outsider whenever your person came in, how he handled that situation. But, you know, like with the NFL, it's, you know, there's a lot of ups and downs in this league. I think it's really how you battle, come back from those, you know, learn from your mistakes and become better.

I feel like that's what he's done. And then I'll start to shine too. And, yeah, just all that hard work is paying off for him. Lane Johnson, I appreciate the time. As always here, look for more of my calls as you guys get through your schedule. I think this team is fascinating and I'm not just saying that because of 4-0.

You know, AJ Brown added on draft day and then obviously Brad Berry added late and everybody putting it together right now, including you and the rest of your offensive line mates. Look for more of my phone calls if you don't mind. Yeah, say it again, I don't know. All good, I complimented you, that's all. Just said, you know, I talked well of you, if you didn't hear me.

You there? Oh gosh. Yeah, I can hear you. There you go. Lane, I talked well of you, don't worry. I just said thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Thank you.

You got it. That's Lane Johnson, everybody, right here. I'm glad that he could hear me at the end because, again, if you're new to this program, I have difficulty not saying goodbye properly. Yeah. Like, literally, I'd need Lane Johnson to call back just so I said goodbye. I'm just not one of those guys that, like, you know, I need to say goodbye properly. Right, right, right.

Yeah, if there's a hang-up or a disconnect, you have to call them back. But I'm that way in person as well. Like, a perfect contrast, and I don't know if he's that way on the radio, but I just know him personally. The show that we've followed on two different platforms, Dan Patrick.

You'd hang with him all night and then all of a sudden, where's Dan? Poof. Gone. Yeah.

Out. What do you call the Irish exit? Yeah, he's the king of the Irish departure. I have a friend that was like, where'd he go? I'm like, you hang with Dan all night and then all of a sudden, where's Dan?

I saw something recently that if you don't say goodbye to people and just Irish goodbye, you save yourself two days a year. Wow. Who can come up with those metrics? What are those analytics?

What are those analytics? What's the amount of time you spend? You spend 15 minutes saying goodbye to people.

That's true. That's 15 minutes you don't get back. 15 minutes is a long time, and that's a Jew saying that. I'm just saying, if you're going around the room.

But if you walk up to your friends, like if we're all hanging out. I'm out, guys. I talk forever saying goodbye.

I'm out. Put it all together, I'm not saving myself two days. I gotta go say goodbye to people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I lose like two years every time I say goodbye. This is researchers from the UNSW's Time Management Institute.

Time Management Institute also stands for too much information, but go ahead. Yes. Found that saying goodbye at a party can generally take up to 45 minutes and because the average person goes to around 25 parties a year, a person can spend an average of 18 hours and 45 minutes each year saying goodbye. I haven't gone to 25 parties a year since 2004. I mean, come on. 25 a year? Lucky I leave my house 25 times a year. Oh my God. This is pre-COVID information, I think.

As of 11-17 today. Two days a year you can save, guys. I'm just saying, like, Irish goodbye. Yeah, you just sometimes... I gotta waste a week. Easy. Yeah, sometimes you just gotta dip. I'm the king of that. Like, I gotta, I may waste two weeks. You gotta dip.

I can't. It's time to go, it's time to go. I used to be that guy, I had to go around, glad hands, say, you know, give a pound, show love. I like saying goodbye to people.

It's like, hey, great time that I let's hang out. It doesn't take too long. It does not take too long.

He just told you how it takes too long. The Time Management Institute. The Time Management Institute needs to check itself. I believe it. The Time Management Institute needs to recognize what time it is. And you can say goodbye in an efficient, quick manner that doesn't cost you two aggregate days over the year. There's no way you can be at a party with over 25 people that you know... Yeah, think about that. No, see you, everybody, goodbye.

Like a reverse norm. Can I have your attention, Jason? Bye-bye. See you, I'm out. Bye-bye, everybody. You don't have to say goodbye to everybody.

Just the people, like, you gotta have a pecking order. Yeah, like, I was at a birthday party on Saturday. Like, I said goodbye to the host, went to the bathroom, and then I looked around and I saw everybody there and the door was to my right.

I was like, it's just much easier for me to go this way than to go back that way. I understand that. That's fine. So I did. You have to say goodbye to everybody.

This sounds like a Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm. Sometimes you gotta say goodbye to everybody. You gotta. Why? You have. You're the guy that has to say goodbye to everybody.

Me? And this conversation is a perfect example of why it takes 15 minutes to say goodbye. We're gonna pop up on the TMI site.

I'm having trouble saying goodbye to the first segment of this program. Yeah, like right now. You're doing it right now.

Of the hour three? You're doing it right now. Come on. This is worthy of a conversation.

I believe so. That you can say goodbye appropriately to the host, the host's spouse, maybe a couple of close friends, one that you haven't seen. And there will always be somebody that's like, why didn't you say goodbye? You didn't say goodbye to me. Am I not goodbye worthy?

I'm telling you, this is like a curb. Am I not goodbye worthy? And some people are not goodbye worthy. I mean, some people I don't even want to say hello to, let alone goodbye.

Can I put this as a poll? Are you more likely to Irish goodbye or Jewish goodbye at a party? This is a curb.

This is totally a curb. See, with my group, we call it the French exit. So the Irish goodbye throws me off a little bit.

That's it. We call it the French exit. Larry, how am I not goodbye worthy? I'm not goodbye worthy? You said goodbye to DJ Rich. You didn't say goodbye to me. What's going on? Am I in the pain of mind? Am I in the pain of mindless?

What'd you forget about Del Tu Fon? I'm just saying there's a gray area between what the Time Management Institute is saying and what I actually do. So you're on the one day a year? Yeah. I mean, it could be up to two days. That's crazy. It's up to a week. We could have ended this segment like five minutes ago. It's crazy. Now we're saying goodbye. I was seven days saying goodbye a year. I believe that. And brought you back.

I totally believe that. DJ, you know the way I am. Mike, how long does it take you to leave Fox each day, each weekend?

A half an hour to 45 minutes. Well, you, honestly. I'm telling you. So I'm the worst. I'm at the top of that. If what the Time Management Institute is saying is an average, you're the one who's the above average. I bring that average up to the average. Yes, I bring the average up.

A hundred percent. Just like you walking into a club right now. Another thing, I would stay late after that, too. Irish goodbye or Jewish goodbye, advertising Choco right now. That DP show is putting an Irish goodbye. That's what happens.

What happened to Dan? It's not all the time. All right. Now let's take a break. But even just hold on a second.

No, no, we're not. We could have ended this segment five minutes ago, but we can't say goodbye to it. Even if this is a five minute longer segment than we thought it would be. And if we do this once a show every single week. Okay, well, that's five, 10, 15, that's 25.

25 minutes. And if we're on the air 46 weeks a year, that's still not even a day, is it? You know what I'm saying? That's still not even a day.

That's still not even a day. Like that's what you're saying. It takes five minutes to say goodbye to leave a party.

Absolutely it does not. You go up to the host, you maybe have a two minute long conversation, then you see somebody else. And if it takes longer than five minutes, then the next time it's just like another day. 19 hours a year. It's not even a day. It's not even a day.

That's a lot. But we also don't do this every show. We don't do what we're doing in this segment. Every show we do not. But not every segment.

But what if we, through the course of a show, we're at like 12 minutes? We're not. We're not. I bet we are.

We're definitely not. 12 minutes of a segment lasting longer than it needs to be? If you take up all the time out of the three hours that we just sit around and BS, like, yeah, that's probably 12 minutes a show.

Which it's my favorite 12, by the way. You know what? And I appreciate you saying that. But we'll end this segment by saying you need to get out more. I was out. I've been out. Look at you.

You know what I mean? All right. We'll take a break now. For real.

Not 25 parties. I really mean it. We're taking a break.

The music's in. You gotta go. All right. No, wait a minute. Okay. Come back.

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If it's the NFL, it's on Westwood One. Jonathan Taylor is going to be a game time decision Thursday night and Shaq Leonard. Concussion protocol, right? He got his nose broken on Sunday.

Broken nose. Boy, the Titans. We haven't spoken about that one, brother. No one's really talking about them. Well, they're now tied for first in that division. Yeah. The Colts are 1-2-1.

Isn't that amazing? Their two losses and one tie are against the Jaguars and Titans. They're 0-2-1 in division. They've lost to the Jaguars and the Titans. And they tied the Texans. The one against the Titans, though, is at home. Losing a home game in division is a rough one. And the only win they had was against the Chiefs.

Who the hell knows in this league sometimes? But the Titans 0-2, we were... Man, when they lost to the Bills and Malik Willis finished up the game from late third quarter on, everybody's like, well, that's it for Tannehill. The clock's ticking on Tannehill, right? And what about that offense? AJ Brown is balling out in Philadelphia. That offense with Tannehill not even able to finish the third quarter in Buffalo.

That's toast. Derrick Henry getting caught in the backfield. Well, look who's 2-2 now. Look who's 2-2 with going into the season.

Their supposedly most difficult opponent in division being the Colts, and they've won in Indianapolis now a couple years in a row, right? And next up for the Titans, they're at Washington, which is another Carson Wentz situation that appears to be circling around a sink. I don't know if we're around the drain yet.

Jabbing the a sink. I don't know if we're around the drain yet. Jaguars are home against Houston, licking their wounds a little bit. A get-right game maybe.

It's possible. I don't know what's going on with Houston. They still have yet to win a game this year, and they're in almost every one of them.

Quite tough in every game, yeah. They should have won week one. Oh yeah, they're up 20-3 on Indianapolis. They turtled a little bit on offense. But Tennessee, hey, kudos to them. They're 2-2, and they've taken their heart pills, and they've buckled up, to use their coach's phrase, and look at them.

I would think they should win in Washington. And as for the commanders, you know, let me just say this if you're thinking that Ron Rivera is in danger of losing his job. I would counsel Washington not to do that, and they certainly owe this guy. With everything going on with Dan Snyder, who's been that fig leaf for that franchise?

Who's been out there at the forefront, handing out commander's, you know, gear? As you know, don't, you know, don't look at what's going on in our front office, and what the Washington Post is reporting. Here's our dynamite coach, who's battled back cancer. Two-time coach of the year in his previous spot. You know, he's done a lot for this franchise so far, even though it hasn't shown up in the wins and the losses, and he did make the playoffs. When you're Taylor Heineke, maybe they go back to him or their rookie. Maybe they turn to the rookie. Yeah, I think you want to see what Sam Howell has. I mean, at this point in time, I mean, if Trubisky's benched to see what a spark is, maybe that's what, and Brian Robinson apparently has a good chance to come back.

You know, the kid who got shot in a carjacking earlier in the summer. He was kind of in line. I know, let's see what he can spark right here. That's an interesting game, Tennessee and Washington.

Then there's the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, man. Hey, man. Jerry said to Cooper Rush, put me in a position where there's a quarterback controversy, and when that statement was made, you said, you're the one, you and Mike Hoskins are CP. You guys got in my ear and saying, hey, Jerry just said that, you know, Cooper Rush, he's invited him to start a quarterback controversy. And I interpreted that to mean there's no chance Dak doesn't get this job back, no matter how many games in a row, Cooper Rush wins. That Jerry is basically like, hey, Cooper, I would love it if you win so much while Dak is out that you create this conversation in the media because, A, love being talked about, B, love winning. I might profit to say Jerry loves winning more than being talked about, and that's saying a lot, I think.

That is saying a lot. And so he's done a lot of winning. And so he, Cooper Rush has won, and the season I thought that was going to be the thought that was in dire straits, not so much right now, not so much right now, and they're coming out here to Los Angeles to take on the world champion Rams, and what better way for, you know, this season to be proven coast to coast is not even not lost, but can be seriously won.

Who is the starter? Dak had his stitches taken out last week. You see him doing some light practicing and things like that, but you know, you need more than freshly healed, surgically repaired hands and light practices when you're going up against Aaron Donald and a team that, you know, did get beat in San Francisco, Santa Clara last night, but did show, you know, they have some physical chops. They do. I mean, not last night, they didn't show, they showed that they can hit you.

You don't think so? I really watched the game, but from everything I saw, it seemed like they got handled yesterday. They got, they got handled in the red zone and then they, and then they made too many mistakes. The Superbowl champions. They made too many mistakes.

They couldn't block anyone. I mean, well, up front, they got a problem. What do you, you think that the, you think the Rams have a problem of being, you know, that they're, they're too finesse. I think the Rams aren't going to make the playoffs. I think you're wrong about that. I'll take that.

Sold. That said, here was Jerry Jones today about Dak Prescott's readiness and Cooper Rush's starting gig. Well, I know that it's better and I know that he's going to go out there every day and make progress toward being able to grip the ball. I don't know that you could ask for better news, technically, physically, and how how it's responding at how to healing, so to speak.

And so all of those things are on go. And I don't know that as we go by each day, if considering the injury, considering the location of the injury, I don't know that you could make any more progress. And there's some things here about healing that, again, I often say only the man upstairs knows how that works. Right. But he'll have a big week and he'll be hard on himself getting ready to go. Is he able to grip the football now? No, not well enough to play.

All right, 105-3, the fan right there providing that excellent follow-up question right there. So it's going to be Cooper Rush this week, I think. I mean, if he's saying on Tuesday that he can't grip the football well enough to play, it's Cooper Rush against the Rams. And if you wouldn't mind putting up the Dallas Cowboys schedule, Mr. Hoskins, when you get that ready.

Let me put my glasses on as well so I can peruse my color-coded schedule here. I would say let him go against the Rams. Then you got a Sunday night against Philadelphia. I don't know. I'm not saying Dak loses his gig. Okay.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying what is the rush if he still has trouble gripping a football right now and Cooper Rush is not making mistakes and you're on a nice little roll. Every game that Cooper wins buys Dak some extra time, right?

Well, going in Dak was going to be out six games, we thought, you know, when you've broken your thumb and you need surgery on the spot, right? And then it got changed to four immediately. Four to six. Let's just give him the end of the six. He's already made that six game stretch no worse than 500.

No worse than 500. Now the division might be difficult to win with the Eagles playing the way they're playing and you're going to lose the next three. Certainly since one of the next three is against Philadelphia and that, if Cooper Rush beats the Rams this week, the next game is against Philadelphia in front of the whole country and they're going to have a tough decision to see, is Dak coming back right now, one week removed from not yet being able to fully grip the football, the best move we could make by going into Philadelphia against this defense marauding the way it is. And then if you decide we're going to give Dak some more time, there's home games against Detroit and Chicago, and then you're going to have to go to Chicago. Winnable. Well, I guess you could say that, but Detroit does put up some points. I'm just saying they're all winnable games. But Detroit is a defense that if you want a soft return for your quarterback, that's not a bad one.

Bingo. And then you get him going against Chicago as well and you get some good momentum for Dak going into the bye. Or you just say, that's it, Dak, we'll see you after the bye. Because we're at Green Bay there and then we're at Minnesota and then we're on Thanksgiving against the Giants before a Sunday nighter against Indianapolis.

If they beat the Rams, that's four in a row. What's the rush? That's what I'm saying.

What is the rush? That's why I said every win buys Dak some extra time. I think it should. Cooper Rush could go 6-0 into the bye week. I know. And then you would be part of the group that thinks Dak shouldn't get his gig back.

I absolutely would be. But there's a $40 million contract that says he does. What does Jerry care about $40 million? He cares about winning football games. Yeah, but Dak is your guy.

It's that simple. By the way, Tony Romo was his guy, too. Tony Romo was at the end of his career with a back injury, not some surgically repaired hand. End of his career, man.

Come on. Tom Brady's 45. Tony Romo was 34. And Naomi, how many other 45-year-olds play football? There's a bunch of guys in the late 30s right now playing football at a pretty good level.

Okay, well, that's not 45. But Romo wasn't under contract. And it wasn't as young as Dak. And if I'm Jerry, I'm sitting here thinking that Cooper Rush is playing like this. Dak can absolutely play like this. As a matter of fact, not only can Dak play like this, but Dak can give me rushing touchdowns.

Dak can give me 300, 400-yard games. Can he? Can he give you rushing touchdowns? He can. He can if you call it. We haven't really seen it since he has been injured.

I don't know. I mean, I don't know what his game log information is from last year, but I profit to say he did return last year and have some rushing touchdowns. He can do it. You can have some games inside the five-yard line where he's taking it in. I mean, I'm Jerry Jones. I'm like, I paid him 40 million bucks a year, and I love Dak, and he's been a face in my franchise. And I see Cooper Rush playing like this, and I can see Dak playing like that. Dak has 25 rushing touchdowns on his career. He's had six rushing touchdowns the last three seasons. So yes, he can. No, I mean, I'm not saying that's a hallmark feature of his game.

No, he said that you can't. Where have you seen him rush touchdowns? What have you seen it since he was injured? He had one rushing touchdown last year.

I'm just, again, guys, I don't want to get caught too deep in the weeds. He can give that to you in a way that Cooper Rush doesn't. But I don't see Dak sitting as Cooper Rush is going on a Super Bowl run.

Cooper Rush is 6-0, and you're going to say, back to the bench, bro. Yeah, that's what you do, because that's his job. It's your job to win games when Dak can't go. That is your job.

That is your job. Dude, True Bledsoe had a $100 million contract. I know.

Bill said to the bench, young man. I know. But he could also look at what Drew Bledsoe was becoming, and he saw what Brady was doing. How about that? I don't know.

Dak had 4,400 yards passing and 37 touchdowns last year. Like, what? Exactly.

What do we even... I know. This isn't a real discussion. I'm sorry. It's not.

It's not a real discussion. Cooper Rush is doing his job. Your team is very big on it. Do your job. His job is to stand in for the starter. Dak's the starter. He's going to get his job back.

His job is to keep it afloat. He'll be in first place. Well, again, like I said, we'll see what it looks like against the Rams. It is a week-to-week league, and I think this is Cooper Rush's week again, and we'll see what it looks like against the Rams. If it looks as efficient and successful as it has looked in his first three starts with Dak being on the shelf, then they will have a fascinating decision for a Sunday night game in front of the whole country against Philadelphia and Jalen Hurts and their main competitor, with all due respect to the Giants, but they've already gotten that road win against the Giants. They've already won in the Giants' house. That's a huge W for this team moving forward, and they'll have a decision to make, and also you'll know Dak is working his ass off, and he'll be pushing inside that building, and for them to say to Dak, patience will be a heck of a week next week.

If he were to beat the Eagles and the Rams. And then you say to him, Cooper Rush, thanks for your job. Thanks for doing your job. Dak is the quarterback of this team, as you know, and here come the Lions and the Bears, and you get Dak a nice head of steam going into the bye, because Dak is the guy. 844-204, Rich, number to dial, part of the conversation here in this world. Also, Rich, sorry, one more thing.

Are you going to extend this segment, like we did the first one? I mean, the Time Management Institute wins and losses, but like I told you, Chris, we haven't given up more than 17 points this entire year. Defense is playing great. Last three games. So Cooper Rush is yet to throw an interception, right? Yeah. That's it. So defense is playing well.

Well, it's all good. Cooper Rush will not be in the Cowboys next year. He's a free agent. He's made himself, like Albert said yesterday, millions and millions of dollars.

Yeah, that's true. He's going to be a starter somewhere next year. Will he, or will he just be the next Case Keenum?

Wow. Hey, that's a nice life though, man. Case Keenum went to the NFC Championship game. I know that, and then he got a chance somewhere else, and now he's a backup again. That's a nice life though. Oh, by the way, a hell of a life, and I'm not saying that to be, you know, contrarian.

I'm talking about the way things normally work in the NFL. 844-204-rich number to adopt. Now we're taking a break. I'm done. Okay. Music's in.

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Ask your loan officer for details. You know what I didn't do in the middle of this hour? I didn't give you an Aaron Judge. We didn't break for an Aaron Judge at bat. Well he swung at the first pitch and grounded out.

He did and he's coming up second in his next at bat. People are like holding it against these media outlets for just hanging in there. Especially on Saturday during college football. It's the first quarter. Did you see Sean McDonough was like carping about it during the broadcast apparently? Who cares? This is history.

Just do a little double box. Don't say anything if you're gonna do anything. Did you really need to see Wake Forest's first quarter possession? I don't know which game it was but you know I do know though that during Monday Night Football they did not break in for any Judge at bats. No they did it during the pregame show and then once the game started they did not. Oh yeah you know that wasn't happening. Yeah there's no way they're cutting away from Niners Rams having the NFL stand for a single second that they're gonna break away from any other sport.

No. That didn't happen. That'd be a tough one to call. That'd be a difficult call from the NFL office for someone from Disney to take. That's for damn sure.

Can we do a double box in Monday Night Football? I don't know. But no it is it's going on for a very long time and I would love for him to just get a 60 second and get that thing taken care of. One home run in the last 12 games. Me and we had a discussion about this like how long ago Brock?

Imagine if he doesn't he stays at 61. So what by the way how about pool holes going again yard again? Yeah. Here's my question I put this in the text Babe Ruth is right there like. What do you mean right there where?

For pool holes. Oh yeah. Like yeah it's great. Come back next year you mean? Come back like year what 12 home runs he's at 702 right? He's like 56 years old like why would he want to do it?

I don't know. Dude look how much on fire he's been lately though. He's he's really locked in. Rich to be able to legitimately pass Babe Ruth. Yeah but I think he's I think he's kind of this is pretty neat like he is leaving you know look.

It would be dope to see. Did you see he homered in his first game as a Cardinal in the old Busch Stadium and then he homered in his last at bat in the new Busch Stadium. I mean he should never play again just walk off. And well did you see how he walked off at Busch Stadium? Yeah they all got taken in. Well he got he went to the mound when they took out Wayne Wright and Yadier Molina. In the fifth. And then all three of them walked out together I'm getting goosebumps just talking about it.

They all got taken out. You know like that was when what they sent Jeter and Posada and Pettit to take out Rivera or something like that. You know I mean like that's the stuff so but and he's got 703. Babe Ruth though man.

He's that close. Babe Ruth. 703 Aaron Judge is batting right now. Yes. Okay.

It's a 2-2 game in Texas. Now if I call this did am I am I breaking the express written consent of Major League Baseball without with no with no. I don't know that's a good question. With no handwritten letter from the commissioner's office?

I mean. All right there's Judge at the plate. A man stands alone at the plate it's time for what?

Individual achievement. Here's the pitch. Oh that's a good cut. Really good cut.

I feel like this is your Price is Right appearance. Does Aaron Judge have the master key? If he homers if he homers if he homers he gets a brand new car. You know what I told these guys. He does it a ping-pong table and a popcorn machine that he will not bring into the Yankee clubhouse despite his teammates asking him for it for over a calendar year. Here's the next pitch. You know what I told these guys today?

Okay. If he doesn't hit it after this game just be like you know what I respect Roger Maris I want to keep his name in the record book and he sits out. He's also going for the the triple crown even though Arias is sitting out with a hamstring injury in Minnesota. He's at 315 though. I know he's several points ahead. I mean Judge is Judge is going for a triple crown by the way.

I thought it was out of reach for him. Okay. I don't know he starts going under a nice little tear and he's spitting at these balls that dive out of the zone. He'd have to go three for four the next two days I feel like. Well it's a double header today.

Yeah. These are two games in one. Two games in one. Let's have a double header two today.

That's right. It's not over yet. Brave Magic number one. Fire the trumpets. Fire the trumpets and Judge just uh hit deep to right center field.

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