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REShow: Tom Pelissero/Grant Hill - Hour 2

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June 10, 2022 3:26 pm

REShow: Tom Pelissero/Grant Hill - Hour 2

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June 10, 2022 3:26 pm

NFL Network reporter Tom Pelissero how the Rams are able to keep giving huge contract to the likes of Aaron Donald and Cooper Kupp in the face of NFL salary cap restrictions, if Deshaun Watson could be put on the NFL’s Commissioner’s Exempt List in the wake of the civil lawsuits against him, and why it might be in Baker Mayfield’s best interests to play one more season with the Browns instead of forcing a trade to a less-talented team like the Carolina Panthers.

Basketball Hall of Famer Grant Hill tells Rich how close he came to signing with Michigan out of high school before opting for Duke, the motivation for his new autobiography ‘Game,’ why being part-owner of the Atlanta Hawks was a plan that germinated back in college, that whoever wins Game 4 between the Celtics and Warriors will go on to win the NBA Finals, says why LeBron James’ chances to win another title are rapidly shrinking, says why he enjoyed exchanging trash talk with Michael Jordan, and shares his favorite stories of Bill Raftery and making his classic ‘This Is SportsCenter’ ad with Dan Patrick. 

In his weekly ‘Big-Ass Grab Bag’ TJ list his top 5 TV characters among Magnum P.I., Venus Flytrap from ‘WKRP in Cincinnati,’ Crockett and Tubbs from ‘Miami Vice,’ Sam Malone from ‘Cheers,’ and The Fonze from ‘Happy Days.’

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You Don't Go to the Locker Room after Game Taken in the Spectacle of the NFL Back at That Time so I Don't Remember the Dallas Year, but Only a Little Bit Why A Lot in Washington Course Cleveland, Where He Finished His Career, Another Name, Jordan, Michael, What Your Favorite Story Involving Him Grant Jordan, Michael Somebody from the Index. I Read from Left to Right Had A Lot Of before I Got to the MBA. I Think Really My First Time Really Beating Michael Jordan Was When He Was Playing on the Drinking and I Was on the, Selecting, and the First Day We Played.

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It was really nice, generous, all about sin. It was just a memorable experience in the lot of funds reach out to you after certain time and indoor regular-season finale and final four game that you might've called Grant that he did he reach out to you in respect so you can reach out and follow him in Cleveland at the MBA 75 and they were coming often in the back in the hallway, came up to me and to we had just beat them Carolina blue about, and you go about maybe a couple maybe a week before. Yes, so I will talk in all types of trench and we didn't say outlay all man like go you know you I'm given a cool menu like man you were talking tragically when you know when we were good and that we were going back and forth in the hallway so that that rivalry although there is a credible respect of mutual respect, we weakly got me like talk trash since only advice I would try to avoid Michael in the coming days if not months if not years after the last several games between two of your schools grant yeah you know me, I met with that was the whole game was one thing last home game okay but it'll the final four like that. Would you know for them like that. I don't think I'll never, ever be able to lift that your professionalism was fantastic. Grant done it yet so big-time.

I've known Hubert have known Hubert for you to one of us were in college and I was happy in all seriousness college basketball is at its best in my opinion with Duke and North Carolina a really good and when you replace a legend like what were you always concerned Hubert having had getting the final tip should game almost coming close to winning it in all Carolina going to be relevant for quite some time now were trying to be the same as coach Kaylee John Cyrus committed and but I'm hopeful that'll happen and I love the rivalry and I love more will repeat that which I tend to do next year but I guess one last one for the remaining time I would you grant Hill from your Index.

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You don't want must welcome them open doors around left goals are something along those 11. I don't. I can't believe it. You know, one that he could hang out and partake like you done today if you like me the next day, youthful energy and I'm Dragon and you don't have to. They girl will have a great line will get not going to practice at 8 AM and around like your 12 hours of sleep and like he did and literally like you just go and go and go and you drink with him and you're like you like, you know, it was almost empty and you think of you for thinking of as I think that much constantly constantly reloading a sordid click hopeful and sober. He gave much and I just have to rest up for 11 months to get ready you be an answer to respect you guys are you guys are all your guys are all great together. I got one last one for you, Patrick, Dan, when I got to SportsCenter. One of the best SportsCenter commercials that it already been on the air was you in the lobby. When I first walked into the lobby of ESPN as a young 26-year-old get on like this the place were grant him play the piano and what was what, what's the back story behind this one back toward I finished my first year in the MBA and I remember my agents were saying, look, you know you want to go to Bristol to take this commercial and like I was a part of the very first batch of ESPN commercial which you know are legendary. You been in on the job was aware of and it owes like when they wrath commercial like it'd make anything like that, you will commercial Mike I guess you don't validate any athlete or any individual that has to do it you will you noted in your audit. You know there's good creative for funny and will be all splattered all over the network for you know for quite some time. I turned it down like it did make anything and so literally. I was there with Dan Patrick and Craig Kilborn and I might've been like we might've invited might've been five-minute record.

I came in I have much earlier.

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They just acted like a plate right and and we did it we tape it maybe two times and that was it and I was back to Hartford and flew out and literally it was like I might've been on campus for all of 15 minutes know it's it's great is your Dan was down, dad show menu played like Dino charge of that time. He just kinda got in a little bit more Again and put some money in your jar throwing just so funny and later clap clap clap my gosh, I'm a tweet that I just found it.

It's brilliant hey Grant, thanks for your time.

Congrats in the book, let's do it again and certainly since being oddly styled like an index mention the next time you have a book. So let's let's create some memories. The two of us over the next Allport look for Michael Grant. Thanks again congrats in the book and you be well they got any time.

Grant Hill game and autobiography world books are so high we come back right here on the rich eyes and show TJ's big ass Grab Bag, including a little reference to our first, our guests, the great Henry Winkler don't go anywhere back with that in a moment. All right, let's get to it. There is a heart out at the end of the maternal teacher Jefferson to do this because he's just as cool as the list is about to do Annie's as cool as the other side of the pillow. Jefferson's top of big ass Grab Bag teacher Jefferson go for it. I kaboom guess you stepped in the room like we always do at this time. Phyllis the great Henry Winkler in our limits and still are Phyllis and Homer had a completely different idea for this top five, but I switched it on rule 1210. As I dug in the big ass Grab Bag in honor of Henry Winkler and I decided to pull out TJ's top five coolest characters not what you guys and how impossible this is right. There are so many cool cats on television. It's really hard to narrow down the five but I did my best and here we go, number five this guy lives in the 200 acre estate in the guesthouse in Hawaii.

He's got an able mustache drives a Ferrari, he gets all the checks any soft cases to Magnum PI Thomas Magnum right is just going around Hawaii. All the girls love them is good-looking and again the mustache in a Ferrari exam. So just imagine what he was going and I meet is the poster that was stymied was the 80s and that is Magnum, so a person can get away with number for Michael to phone you probably stated working in radios when the right yes okay so you work in radio. You got a great nickname and you dress will fly. That puts you on my list and this guidance will go to Cincinnati K RP Venus client and I would always do like my radio voice trying to be like being is like being run at the cold doing this thing that Brockman hates but once I said I had every guy live in Miami without the others right to own cars. I got it craft it into one on this list because that was mistranslated these guys out to Michael Thomas cars times Johnson right might get in Miami's soundtrack you, don't number okay to go to Delta's number two right.

This guy was magical.

As a former athlete and what's his athletic career kinda went siding decided he was going to head to a new location which would keep him around people and what makes everybody knew his name whenever he was at his place of business back to dance in the same guy got it just tears was the spot when it sashayed to the time you know like you would like that sachet will be about the Collinsworth slide down the remember how good Sam was a baseball. I'm pretty sure he was pretty good right ankle and got a game at the home of the Velasquez last night was 91, number one user tried to put some type of drama or suspense in it.

No drama, no suspense.

He was right. A black leather jacket, turn on the jukebox simply by punching it, thinking Pescadero in the back arrow. He had the most famous thumbs-up sign up and anger Winkler on scones really was just in the building. This was the coolest MF time with me watching the reruns of happy days of the funds wasn't the man and that is TJ's top 512. It's a high bar to clear but that I think it is clear thank you think well done sir, appreciate, and if we missed one.

Countless people deftly let me know so they will see even you Brockman could next be upset with Crockett and Tubbs attack and I couldn't know at times recently comedian coming up yet. I normally hate when he does well at the top five. I was well done Adam just immediately texted is no Zach Morris will present Melrose Smith, either by looking at this point seems I get you guys know I make a big list and I chop them down. The cytokines eliminated all the high school in younger guys like Zach Morris Theo Huxtable there on the list plus a 10 year ban also applies to the big ass Grab Bag slot moonlighting is imagine we did wait 10 years, but will submit back. That's why the anatomy is a little reading. This was like, I mean Hawkeye Pierce for mass. The one guy almost had number five, but I left Magnum was Capt. James T. Kirk, by the way, was always my favorite Kilborn lesions whenever he used William Shatner's lien from the ruckus only 10 all these people running. I just had fives five is perfect. I cannot fly trap was an outstanding so as a family just I am alone I want to be a radio because Jake is that show even more when I watch that because you also thought Lonnie Anderson was working the front office and I joined the fever and units but I know I was doing too well written and I want to hear it majority fevers another one he could in the top 10 in the top five list of so many cool characters minutes it was hard was hard Bailey by the way was underrated cast member of the W camping since that's what to say that Jan Smith of their time. Just buy the stuff with Dr. Johnny, fevers, and like it to say that but I didn't want to do the two again so I left Crockett and Tubbs shut out the fever Crockett ratio came as a MacGyver and nothing was on the last 10 Iver found rock for Jim Rockwell all time.

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It's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all, the opponent sponsor Ms. Natalie and the conversation wears on a mouse and Andre was number one is not even going back before you know Holcombe was a baby face Holt and Andres were able to go in headline at the New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went. That was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen wherever you get your podcasts


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