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June 26, 2024 3:32 pm

The second gentleman of the United States, Doug Emhoff, joins the Rich Eisen Show to discuss his love of sports, fantasy football, and sports diplomacy. He shares his predictions for the Los Angeles Rams' season, talks about his White House League, and discusses the importance of getting out and voting.

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What was it called? The Rich Eisen Show. Oh, man, am I really on? Yes, sir.

Yeah, buddy. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. 14 and 3. David in Oregon, I'm glad you pulled over, sir.

Raiders go 14 and 3. Today's guests, the second gentleman of the United States, Douglas Emhoff, senior NBA writer for The Athletic, Sam Amick, Formula E CEO, Jeff Dodds, co-founder of Lava Media, Jason Flom. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. We are here on The Rich Eisen Show, and that's not the Royal We, it's all of us together. We unite on The Rich Eisen Show, and we are here for you over the next three hours, and we are going to be all over the figurative map sports and so much more.

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And then there's our podcast listeners who listen to us whenever they darn well please. Thanks to the Cumulus Podcast Network, we say hello to all of you here on an NBA draft day and night. The NBA draft is tonight. The NBA Finals, as we all know, ended last week with the Celtics winning it all. The NHL draft is on Friday, so we got two drafts.

We got two finals or final in the books. Major League Baseball season is up and running, as we all know, and lots to talk about on this program. Four guests, the second gentleman of the United States, Doug Emhoff, is in our green room right now. He's going to come out. I've known him for quite some time, so this is kind of a fun, interesting, and a great personal moment for me, that he's going to be here on the show as a guest. And he'll be joining us, I believe he's going to be playing the Rams win-loss game for us. Okay, because he's a Los Angeles Rams fan, and he's also, I'm sure, ready to talk about his Lakers and things of that nature here on this program. Sam Amick will be joining us in hour number two in advance of the draft.

He's the one who reported on the Athletic yesterday that the Lakers are ready to throw the Supermax contract at LeBron. And so we'll get two cents from him on that subject matter. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. How are you? I'm great, man. What's up? What's up, Jay Felley? Good to see you. Hey, what's up, Rich? TJ Jefferson. How about those Mets last night, huh?

How about the Mets? More importantly, Rich, I'm wearing a shirt with buttons for the first time in the history that I've been on the show. It seems only right that I might have to jump in if necessary to help our friends in the back. Oh, you're talking about the security that is here in advance of me giving the top five list of the most underrated games of week one later on?

Is that what it is? I'm just here to help. Very good. Very good.

You put on you put on the red team, though, you put on the glasses and everything. These are privates, by the way. It's it's an interesting day today here in our neighborhood, for sure.

Hey, let's start with with this piece of information. The New York Knicks and the Brooklyn Nets made a trade. Last time that happened, the Nets were in New Jersey. 1983, were they in New Jersey, were they still in Long Island in 1983, I should have even looked that up.

Long. 1983, when Len Elmore, who a lot of fans may know because he calls some NCAA tournament games for CBS. Len Elmore was involved in that trade. Still in New Jersey. 1983, 41 years it took for the Nets and Knicks to strike a deal with one another. We're back. We're back.

We're back. Predates, forget about Kyrie Irving's fandom for the New Jersey Nets. I think it predates Kyrie Irving's existence on this flat earth. And so look at the Knicks and the Nets making a trade.

How about that? And speaking of Len Elmore calling NCAA tournament games, maybe he called one involving the Villanova Wildcats when they were winning championships together in 2016 and 2018. Because the Nova Knicks, as we were referring to them in their remarkable run this year that wound up, unfortunately for them, in an injury marred ending of a season shy of the Eastern Conference finals that few people expected them to make anyway leading into the season when they were all full strength. But Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson and Dante DiVincenzo, former teammates for those championship Villanova Wildcats, they were referred to as the Nova Knicks. Well, the Nova Knicks just got more Nova Nikki. Because McCall Bridges, who was on that team with Josh Hart and the Big Ragu and Jalen Brunson, he's a Knick.

Wow. And the Nets traded Bojan Bogdanovic, who they received in the middle of the season last year. And then he's one of the many Knicks that got hurt in the playoff run.

So it's nice knowing you, B squared. He's gone, as are five first round picks. And a couple of seconds got traded as well. And all I am saying is this just to tell you, I don't care how many first round picks the Knicks gave up.

And it doesn't even involve one. No, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care because the Knicks are probably thinking to themselves, this is overall pick 18 to 25, 20 to 27. Or heaven forbid, one of them could be the 30th overall pick. You know, that's what they're thinking. And by the way, the first round picks, this is such an NBA thing, on the draft day, it doesn't even involve a pick tonight. No, why would it? Could you imagine an NFL trade for first round picks on draft day that doesn't involve that night's draft?

Could you imagine what would be said about that? That's the way the NBA works these days, man. You're giving GM's ideas right now.

Dude, no, but there's no idea. Like there's no way somebody of significance would be traded on draft day in the NFL for a first round pick or multiple picks that don't even involve that night's draft. But that's the NBA. So whoever the Knicks were possibly going to draft in 2025 or 2027 or 2029 or yes, 2031. Well, and you can't even say they're going to be a Brooklyn Nets because the Nets might use these to trade for somebody else. Listen, and then in terms of the guy that they get, guy shoots threes in defense. This guy was the defensive player of the year runner up in 2022. And after what we just saw, everybody's going to have to try and beat the Celtics. Certainly if you're in the Eastern Conference, certainly if you're in their division, if you really don't even want to talk about that sort of stuff, because divisions really don't matter much anymore in the NBA, you got to shoot threes and defend the three, defend the perimeter. When you're dealing with Brown and Tatum. And he was just shy of scoring 20 points a game. And here's the best part about it for you, Nick fans who might be wondering, how is Tom Thibodeau going to grind this guy down to dust and run him into the ground?

Great question. Well, he hasn't missed a game in his NBA career. He didn't miss a game in college either. And how about this one? Who is the league leader in minutes played in the 2021-22 and 2022-2023 seasons?

Bridges. He's used to logging minutes. Not only that, Rich, he's never missed a game.

That's right. He's never missed a game. Played in all 474 games of his career. Wait till Tibbs is his coach.

Never missed a game in college either. But what do you mean wait till Tibbs, even if he makes them minutes later, it's like he's been there, done that. Honest question. Do you trust Tibbs to coach this team now? Absolutely do. Should they just hire Jay Wright? Just to complete the Nova Knicks?

Yeah, you know what I mean? I saw a great tweet. The Knicks throwback City Connects are just going to be Villanova uniforms, right? Why not?

Pipeline. Hey, they know each other. I love this. Look at the Josh Hart Instagram. It's a screen grab of all four guys just celebrating with each other.

Look at Brunson's face. Like, what's up? Oh, boy.

Bridges on his ex-account. Just put it all out there. This is crazy. LOL. OK. I still think, you know, does this mean they're going to not sign OG Ananobi? I don't know. As you pointed out in our pre-show conversation, Chris, a lot of the guys play the same position.

And OG wants 200 mil. Fine. Give it to him. Whatever. Give it to him. Why not? What do I care? It's not my money.

The sphere is pumping out revenue in Vegas every single time that there's an event. Give me a break. What do you think? Dolan doesn't have it?

No, he hasn't. Throw it in. Put in the luxury tax. Get out of here. We're nickel and diamond football players, right? We're like, you don't deserve 50 million, even though you're the best player on the field.

I don't say that here. I'm just saying in general, give basketball players 200 million. Who cares? Pay that man his money. What do I care? Malik Monk's making 75 million in a contract.

What do I care? Not my money. And OG can play, man. OG can play. Yes, sir. And he can play in New York.

He's already proven that. So let's go. So right now, Villanova is to the Knicks what Georgia is to the Eagles. Right. Yeah. Good one.

Pipeline. I like it. Good one.

OK. Not bad. But you're like fired Tibbs bringing Jay Wright. Yes. You know who would say no to that? You know who would say no to that. Tibbs. Jay Wright.

Oh. You don't think Jay Wright rich. You don't think Jay Wright wants to coach the Knicks. Let's imagine right now. With all the guys he won titles with.

I'm sure he's on a golf course run where today just laughing. You just got done saying they got Dolan's got a lot of money. If something, God forbid, happened to Tibbs and he couldn't coach. Well, I mean, there's that. Here's a bunch of kids you've already coached.

There's that. I'm not saying a fired Tom Thibodeau. You're not firing, but Tom Thibodeau is one of the best coaches in the NBA. I think Chris disagrees.

Well, because he thinks he runs players into the ground and so on and so forth, and that the reason why everyone got hurt is Tibbs's fault. Well, I mean, I don't think there's any I don't think you can say that with certainty. I don't think anybody can say that with certainty. That's true.

I'm not a doctor, but I mean, you know what? Everybody blames the Derrick Rose's ACL on him and the Knicks fell apart physically. I don't think the Knicks should do anything other than run it back.

Get Ojian Anobi and I don't know, get somebody else to think about that. You're going to get Randall back, too. Oh, yeah, let's go. You're next.

Mitchell Robinson, Isaiah Hartenstein. That's your boy. He needs to get paid. That's fine with me.

Pay him to Richard's handing out money. Do you know how much a ticket in the garden costs? That's why they all showed up in your spot in Philadelphia. This is cheaper. Good. We're going to sell a train ticket on top of it. It still came out. They still came out with less money out of their pocket to see a Knicks playoff game. Get out of here, man.

What do I care? Pay him. Pay this man. Yeah, pay him. Why not?

Rich is handed out hundreds like he's the million dollar man. I mean, any Nick fan that's freaking out. Oh, he gave up all these draft choices.

Why not for who cares? Honestly, like you tell me tonight. If you have no interest in the teams that are drafting tonight. In the last 10 picks of the first round, are you watching? Yeah, I'm still going to watch you watching, Chris. Of course you watch.

Are you really on? Because there's going to be a star there, even though I don't know who he is now. There will be a star getting drafted that day.

I watch the first. Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. So of course, you can draft somebody late in the first round. That is significant and can be somebody who can help you. But if you're the Knicks and you did what you just did, and you can add somebody else who not only can shoot, but defend and knows the chemistry of the players he's going to play with and already knows what it's like to play for a coach who's going to play him all the time. And he answers the bell.

He doesn't miss a game. He logs minutes, knows the city. Well, what else can you do here?

A great idea. Now, you know, is that enough to dethrone the Celtics? Also bringing 20 points a game to them. That's right.

Can he dethrone the Celtics with these Knicks? I hope so. I know you do. Seems unlikely. I hope so. Seems unlikely. Well, get that ready for Friday for What's More Likely. Hey. But we are in the middle of this Wednesday show.

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His name is Jason Flom. He's here. And then there's you at 844-204-rich number to dial. So we're going to expand your brain, expand your mind. We're going to have some fun. We're going to have some conversation. We're going to keep an eye on for any more NBA trades and moves in advance of tonight's draft. Sam Amick is going to tell us what the Lakers are up to and what anything might be going down tonight.

And he is $0.02 on this Knicks-Nets trade. But let's take a break. And when we come back, the second gentleman of the United States of America, Doug Emhoff, is going to be joining us in studio. Don't you dare miss it.

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How are you? Good to be here, finally. Look at us. We've been talking about this for a long time. We've been cultivating this caper. We were working on it. For quite some time. Look at us.

And I'll just put up the picture to start this whole thing off. 2018, summer of 2018, you were my plus one at the All-Star Game. Look at us.

Look at us two kids right there, Doug. Oh, that was in DC, right? That was in DC.

That was right, the All-Star Game, July 17, 2018. And now look. Now look. I'm in your memorabilia-filled.

My memorabilia-filled studio. This is great. I know. And I know you've been knowing what I'll just say this, too.

I lost my entertainment lawyer to the United States of America. Chris, I never thought I would say that into this microphone. But yeah, so I mean, we've known each other, personal business, the whole thing. So it's good to see you, man. It's good to see you. And just seeing this whole set up, really proud of you. Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. And I showed you all this memorabilia here in studio.

And I know you're a die-hard sports fan and all that good stuff. So you were seeing all this stuff here that you were. And you were saying like you saw the Believe sign that you met the cast of Ted Lasso, right? Yeah, they came to the White House.

And it's just one of those surreal things. I was actually just heading to go do something else. What's all this hubbub? And there's a whole cast of Ted Lasso in the White House. Just sitting right there. In like the China Room, looking at the plates from 200 plus years ago. It is so cool, man.

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. As the second gentleman of the United States, my good friend Doug Emhoff is here on the program. And I just want to start off with this. Because again, I know you've been second gentleman for three plus years and whatever. Do you ever just sit back and just say, certainly you're here in Los Angeles where this is your town. This is your, if you will, former life, right? Do you ever sit around and just go, what is going on with my life sometimes? Doug, you ever do that?

Yeah, every day. It's still very surreal. And you and I have had this conversation offline where, especially when I come home and you see the vestiges of what my life was, even having a conversation with you is something I've known a long time and worked with. It's just, it's still surreal when you think, wow, I went from this to being the first second gentleman ever married to the first woman vice president ever. I've traveled to almost every single state in the union as second gentleman. I've been on multiple international trips representing our great nation, leading presidential delegations, going to worldwide sport events, inaugurations of world leaders, state dinners. And you think I'm just this kid from Agoura High School who went to CSUN and here I am on the world stage.

And then I come back home. And so it gets a little, you know, as you say, surreal sometimes, but just stay focused. You know, the traits that you knew me as a lawyer, focus, discipline, stay in the moment, stay calm when it's not calm, always be prepared and get the job done.

And that's how I've approached this and support Kamala. Of course, and so of the many things that you're up to and doing of importance and also on behalf of the administration, what is the sports diplomacy that you're doing? Cause that has gotta be, again, I know you, you're a diehard sports fan. Out of everything that you mentioned about what you're doing, you still probably put way up at the top of your list the importance of things for you as fantasy football draft and things of that nature. Yeah, I know that goes without saying, sometimes you have to say it, but what is sports diplomacy?

You must be having a blast doing that. You know, as your viewers know, sports just brings us together in a world that sometimes appears divided. And again, I don't think it's as divided as they say, cause I'm traveling around the country, but sports brings us together, period.

And the more things that I can do as second gentleman, again, on behalf of the entire nation. Across aisles and things of that nature. Across aisles and ideology, cause when you're talking about a team, you're talking about a sport and you're there, there's a huge commonality. And then, so it breaks down what other barriers are purportedly between us. And so whether it's going to the NFL draft, when I braved the 300,000 folks to come see you, my friend, and the Secret Service was pretty happy about that.

Not really. Could you walk through the crowd, right? Yeah, that was, we did. 200,000 people there. We did, that was, but being in under that tent and we were next to the super fan groups and I went to see my beloved Ram super fans and the commander fans, which since I'm in DC part of the time, I was, you know, secondary team.

And it just, we weren't talking politics. We were talking about our collective love of football and sports in general, and just this bringing of people together, whether it's, I traveled to New Zealand for the Women's World Cup. I've been to the, I went to the NBA All-Star game in Indianapolis. I was at the NCAA finals recently. So it's just, it's great.

So the more I can do that, it's something I love, like some millions of other people, but I do it to show that we can all come together. Who's the one person you met where you're like, okay, this is pretty cool. The sports person that you met, Doug. Oh man, it's, there's just so many.

It's just hard to say. I was just in Birmingham, Alabama. You were the, not for the major league game.

The night before there was events and there was a celebrity game. And just to meet some of the old, Joe Torre, for instance, who I've never met Joe Torre in all these years. And I was like, that's Joe Torre. But the fact that he knew who I was, that always blows my mind.

Like if you're meeting like someone that everyone knows about, it's like, oh my God, that's so-and-so. Like, you know me? And so Joe Torre knew who I was. And so that I took pictures. And that was one where, send it to my father, send it to my buddies that I've grown up with, send it to my son.

That was one of those. It just transcends generations, a legend like that, where everyone knows. And I could say, wow, I met this guy. Doug Emhoff here on the Rich Eisen Show. Whose fantasy league are you in? Like the second gentleman, is there a White House Fantasy League or something like that? This is a reveal. Okay.

This is breaking news. There is a White House Fantasy Football League. We've finished our, we just had our second year. But my main league, which I've talked to you about for many years, is it's 34 years now.

It started, or 35 years, it started in 1989 when I was at USC Law School. And it was a bunch of guys that I was in class with. And then it morphed into a league with my first law firm. And so it's essentially the same crew. We're all getting up there.

We all have kids in our 20s to late 20s, early 30s. So my son, Cole, is my partner. To date, the team is still called Team Nirvana, which I named in the early 90s. For the band?

For the band. And it's still called Team Nirvana. And never changed it. You're frozen in time, Doug Emhoff. Frozen in time, man. Frozen in time.

It's like my musical taste. And he has come on as such a strong co-owner. He started probably when he was in high school, but he's so good and smart. So we made it to the finals this year. It was a heartbreaker. We lost in the finals because I think it was that Saturday night game where Dak Shepherd and Lamb had like 5,000 points. So you went against C.D.

Lamb in your final? And Dak. They had the combo. So I think we were done.

We were just smoked by Saturday night. I went against C.D. Lamb in my final as well. I went against David Njoku on that Thursday night. He had like a hundred yards against the Jets in the first quarter. Then C.D. Lamb had 200 yards against the Lions by halftime. I was finished. Such a depressing thing.

We actually had a decent final, but they had over 200 points. So there is a White House league. So that's my main league. So the White House league we started, this will be year three. And it's great because it's from the second gentleman of the United States to comms people, to younger staffers. And what's great is the S talking happens.

So they don't care who I am and I don't care who they are. So there's a lot of smack going on. And you know, I took you down second gentleman. I love that.

Oh yeah. And now when I made the playoffs both years, decent teams, but these are people who are really into it. So this is a tough league to do well. But I did make the playoffs both times. I got to tell you, man.

And I think it gives exactly who you are. Because we all have multiple leagues here. Chris is in a league. Do you want to tell the second gentleman about your league, Chris, real quick? Sure. Because I think there may be some legislation that may need to be placed in or maybe an executive order that you can put in to make this illegal.

But go ahead, Chris. So we do a live draft every year in the city of the team that wins the Super Bowl. So we're going to Kansas City again this year. There are no time limits. So we all go to someone's house or hotel room, what have you, and we just draft. So usually it's about eight to nine hours, our draft. Whoa, no time limit.

No time limit. It's not my decision. Go ahead and tell them. Go ahead and tell them what happened one year.

One year someone took 28 minutes to take Brian Hartline in the eighth round. Now that's fighting words, don't you think, when you're involved in a fantasy, Doug? So that, I think I can do like a second gentleman executive order. I'm going to check with the team on fantasy related issues. We can work on the language, we can work on the language.

I beg of you. Do it in time for this draft, please do it. Man, because we've gone to the, you know, one minute and you just move on. And if it gets to like 50 seconds, you're giving people crap. And you have to ask the commissioner, you have to make a disbow to the commissioner to pause on land, so you have to be doing this stuff quick. And our commissioner- There's a pause? Like someone, like under what circumstances is there a pause? Commissioner's discretion. Do it have to be a national emergency? It has to be something- As far as I'm concerned.

Something that, but normally if you don't, then it just auto picks. So it's a pretty, pretty egregious. But I just love the fact that we're all in multiple leagues and we all rank them about the one that you really want to win. And I think it speaks to you and who you are, that the one that you want to win isn't the White House League.

That's a side gig. That is more like when I'm with my normal league, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm winning by 20 in the White House League but whatever, we need to win this one. And I only won it once. So this is in 34 years. I won in the year 2000, when Denver picked up Mike Anderson, you know, the running back.

Yeah, of course. And he had like the greatest one off year. And I rode that to my one and only. So my name's on the trophy and it's the same trophy. It's almost starting to look like the Stanley Cup. It's got 34 years of this.

And the winner of the prior year has to get it engraved. And I promised them in the finals, I said, if the other team tanks, we will host this celebration at the White House this fall. That was not enough to get them to tank.

And they smoked us. So there you go. See, you know, there are standards, even when you try to influence the situation. It doesn't matter. Fantasy, fantasy over, winning that trophy over road, having a party and the draft at the White House. Could you imagine a draft at the White House? By the way, you couldn't have a draft at the White House.

Yeah, that's... There would not be, you wouldn't pass muster. They would not let you through the doors. No time limits at the White House? No, no time. No, there are time limits at the White House. There are term limits at the White House. So there's gonna be time limits. Get out of here.

We could finish our draft in four years, you know what I mean? Oh my God. Doug Emhoff here on the Rich Eisen Show. So we have fans here on this program. Phone in frequently. And then there are celebrity guests, like yourself, who are here.

Yes, you're- You can give me back one. Well, if Joe Torrey knows who you are, then you qualify, Doug. Play what we call the win-loss game. Yeah. Okay, where we ask you to predict the final record of your favorite team. And that team for you is the Los Angeles Rams, correct? That's your team, correct? Would you like to do the win-loss game, Doug Emhoff, please?

Yeah, yeah, do I have to do this straight up or should I be a homer? No, I mean- What do people do? Well, people are very optimistic, I will say. Not that many people are realistic. I was. Well, TJ is a diehard Cowboy fan and you had the Cowboys going 11-6. I wanted to say 17-0.

I was gonna say most Cowboy fans would go undefeated if they did this gig. Oh, yes. I had to keep it real, though.

That's pretty much it. I had to keep it real. We did have an Eagles fan say 17-0 for the Eagles. Okay.

No, that's kind of been the only one. I'll try to play it straight up. A Raider fan yesterday, we've had a Raider and a Jet fan both call in and say the same record, 14-3 for the Jets and the Raiders. A little bit much.

Now, be careful. Nevada's in play, so let's be careful about the Raiders. Let's say, okay, 14-3 sounds great for the Las Vegas Raiders, but that is pie in the sky. I remember LA Raiders that still place in my heart for the Raiders, for sure. Okay, so we've got the Rams. We have not had a Rams fan do this yet.

We don't haven't done that. We had, I think, Susie. I had one. When Susie was here. Susie loves playing the win-loss game with his colleagues. We had Jason and Fresno. Don't tell him the record yet, Chris. Yeah, don't tell me.

I actually. Jason and Fresno did it. So here we go. Doug Emhoff, the second gentleman of the United States of America playing the win-loss game for his favorite team, the Los Angeles Rams. Let's give some music to add.

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There's the schedule up there on the screen. At the Lions on a Sunday night to start the season. You just got the whole Jared Goff thing. And having been there for the draft and the energy and the enthusiasm, I'm gonna put an L on that one. Close game. It's not gonna be a blowout, but. Sort of like the playoff game. I'm gonna throw an L on that one.

At the Arizona Cardinals. That's a big W, big W. Home for the 49ers. Now this is, on the home front, a dicey prediction for you. I'm gonna take the W on this one, but close game at SoFi. Okay, yes it is.

Yeah, so this is. Home opener. Yeah, I mean, we gotta win that game. Two and one at the Chicago Bears. We're gonna go three and one.

Okay. Although, Caleb going there. I went to USC, so I got to meet him at the draft.

And? I was like, let's go, fight on. I got to meet the coach. I said, are we gonna be good on the defense?

Did you try Lincoln Riley? I did. He said, we're working on it. I said, I may be second gentleman, but I'm still an obnoxious alumni.

So that's what you were able to ask. Fantastic. Three and one, home for the Packers. They're gonna be good this year. And I don't want to be a homer, but I just feel at home with that home field advantage.

Who's house, Ram's house. All right, four and one, four game win streak, off the buy, home for the Raiders. It's gotta be a W. I know I'm sounding like the person I didn't want to sound like. It's pissing me off, I'm sorry. Second gentleman's a homer.

No, that's okay. Go with your gut. Five and one, home for the Vikings, short weeks. Do they not play any road games?

What's happening here? No, I mean, it's three and a row at home. We're gonna take down the Vikes.

Okay, six game win streak. Six and one at the Seahawks. And we are gonna, we're gonna beat the Seahawks. It's a close game. Seven and one, back home on a Monday night against the Miami Dolphins. Two is gonna take us down. I think we're gonna lose that game. Now, are you just saying that because you're uncomfortable that you've predicted seven wins in a row? Little bit. Okay, very good. He's correcting the mean.

All right, very good. But I do like Tua, and as long as he stays healthy, I like their coach too a lot. Me too, I do like Mike McDaniel.

I like watching them. So we'll take the L there. Seven and two at the Patriots. We're gonna crush them. That's kind of like my Laker thing about the Celtics too, this residual, but yeah. Okay, so that's eight and two, home for the Eagles.

All right, because my great friend and our first lady, Dr. Jill Biden, loves the Philadelphia team. I'm gonna take the L there. Okay, you know where the bread is butter? That's what you're saying. She's gonna, Jaylen, I did good.

Okay, you can go back in the Oval Office, head held on. If they can get to that point of the season last year, what were they, 10 and one or two at that point? That's correct.

And I think they know they gotta fix some things, so. So you're eight and three at the Saints. Yeah, we're gonna beat the Saints. All right, nine and three back home against the Bills. Yeah, this is gonna be a tough couple of games here. I'm gonna go one and one. I'm gonna say we're gonna beat the Bills and we're gonna lose to the Niners in San Francisco. Yeah, because that's a turnaround right back at it in a short week. Yeah, and it's a Sunday, Thursday, and we'll have already beaten them in week three. It's all gonna be up for grabs there.

10 and four at the Jets. I know you're- It's okay, listen, this is straight up. How do you feel? Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna come up. Come on. Come on. What does that mean? What does that mean, come on, Doug? What does that mean, come on?

W, can I spell it? You have to say it. Say it, it's a win. Okay, home for the Cardinals. Yeah, we're gonna win these last two games.

Wow. What are we, 12 and four? 12, 13 and four? You have them at 13 and four, Doug.

I know this sounds Homer-ish. I know this sound, but look at how they finished last year. They've tightened up. I'm with you. I love, I mean, Puka, I mean, you've got- And you got my guy Blake Coram from Michigan.

They do, and I was there when they, when we did that draft. So psyched. All right, so do I refer to you as Doug in LA or Doug in DC? Come on, man, I'm LA. Okay, very good. This is my home. Whenever someone says, how do you like living in DC? I said, I'm in DC, but I live in LA. Very good. This is my home.

Doug Emhoff, the second gentleman in the United States, thinks the Rams are going 13 and four. He didn't want to be that guy, and he turned out to be that guy. I guess I was. You are who you are, Doug. I am who I am.

No apologies. So you're heading to Angel City FC today? Is that what you're doing? Today, I've got a sports events, Angel City. I'm going to the big Mexico-Venezuela game tonight at SoFi. At SoFi, I'm going to be there too. Susan and I are bringing a kid. Let's, okay, all right, I'll let you know.

I'll let you know where I am. Yeah, so we've talked about this. This is a period of time where you're football, we're anticipating football. We've just had a great NHL game seven. NBA's done. Kind of the- You don't want to talk about the Celtics. I love this Laker fan over here.

No, I know that. It was so funny how that still is in you, where my son, Cole, came out for Father's Day weekend in DC, and we went to a sports bar to watch one of the games. You went to a sports bar? It was with- Just strolling in? I know you were all, you can't just, you can't stroll.

Yeah, maybe. But it was just so many Celtics fans in there, and Cole and I were just not rooting for them. All right, I do not blame you. And then just, what do you want to say about getting the message out to vote, Doug Emhoff? Well, this is a democracy. This is a country built on the will of the people, and having free and fair elections, and voting and making it not difficult to vote, but making it, you know, everyone needs to be able to vote, and just express, you know, the will of the people through voting, and that's what democracy is. So I obviously am supporting Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

I'm very proud of President Biden and the work that he's done, and Kamala, my wife, I love her, but she's doing a great job. So for me, that's who I'm gonna support, but it really, for me, to your audience, it's just go out and register. Make sure you make your voice known. So all the issues that are important to you, all of these things can be handled by voting, and especially to the younger viewers out there who some may think, oh, what does it mean to me? It does, all this stuff matters.

All these, you don't want people making decisions that affect your life, especially if you're a younger person. You want to get in the mix, get out there, get your friends out there, and let's just, it's a beautiful country. It's a great country. It's like just being in this role makes you so patriotic and to represent the United States of America. It's worth fighting for, and the way to do that is to get out there and vote. Make sure you register as well and do it in time and learn new, right?

Just register, do it in time, and if you're out in college, make sure you know what all the rules are so you can register and go out and vote. That's what this country's all about. Doug Emhoff, I love you, man. It's just so great to see what you're doing and who you are and who you always have been, and it's still that guy sitting in this chair next to me. It feels like our normal shtick, but we're doing it on your show. It is that, it does feel like it.

It does feel like that. All right, man. I will hope to see you tonight at the soccer game, at the football. Love to see you, and say hi to your fans. Say hi to the vice president, please. I will, buddy. You got it, at Douglas Emhoff on Twitter, at Second Gentleman on Instagram, follow this guy, and that'll wrap it up for Doug Emhoff right here in his first in-person appearance on the Rich Eisen Show. We're back to take your phone calls.

All the phone lines are lit. Everybody wants to play the win-loss game now. Look at you being a leader. I just do want to, I guess- You're that guy!

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That's right. He is undersized and tends to over dribble a little bit, and he also tends to hustle in a negative fashion, but he has played against quality competition including Freeman Williams, Nigel Miguel who played at UCLA, Marcus Johnson was in that movie, and then Gary Moeller who played at UC Santa Barbara whose dad pitched for the Dodgers, Joe Moeller. Next up is from Hickory High School, shooting guard Jimmy Chitwood. Jimmy Chitwood, spot up shooter, tends to demand the ball, especially in huddles.

He'll make his teammates better, although not particularly supportive of Ali when he took that free throw. Those free throws at the end of the game, the underhanded free throws against Cedar Knob was the opponent, and who doesn't enjoy saying Cedar Knob on national radio? The problem, he's not always motivated, and Jimmy Chitwood tends to get a little chummy with the alumni, and I think a little questionable relationship with his teacher, Barbara Hershey, I think that's what's going on there.

All right, last one for you. He plays tons of position, guard, forward, and center from Beacon Hills High School, Teen Wolf. Jay, what do you think about his abilities here? Teen Wolf, whose name in the film was Scott Howard when he wasn't a wolf. Great vertical leap, plays above the rim. I think you could refer to him literally and figuratively as a beast. Only 5'3", but plays much bigger. The problem is he comes from a small town in Nebraska, so he'd have to cut family ties, and then he's occasionally violent, although his hair is perfect. Yes, Doug Emhoff saw that on the way out the door.

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Right. You join a White House League for fantasy. Everybody wants to beat you. Everybody wants to beat you. Everybody in that administration wants to say that.

They took on the second gentleman in fantasy football. And still, he doesn't care. He wants to win that league he's been in for 34 years. I understand. Don't you? Heck yeah. I mean, we could create this league right now for us here.

Can we put him in it? In studio. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.

Sure. I'll bring that up. You know, for years, I've been trying to do a show lead with Jodie Foster when she came in. Yeah, DJ really wants Jodie Foster in our fantasy league.

And she was like, I'd be down. And yet you guys never wanted to do a league. Because we're a, I don't need like a fantasy league. It's enough.

That's what I'm saying. We're already- We're a fantasy league that you're in that you hate so much. I don't want to root for the whole NFL to score touchdowns. Because even if the second gentleman was in that league with us, and if Jodie Foster by some lightning strike, we can get both of them in this league just because they've, you know, we can reach out to both of them, right?

Let's just say, cause you know, you got to get schedules all aligned and whatever. So let's just say we do that. I'd still want to win my poker league more than that. Like we all have one. Right, right.

I want to win the league that you hate, and that's fine. Right. And it would all be secondary, even though we'd be beating the second gentleman and Jodie Foster.

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot, you know, there's some serious pelts to put on the fantasy. Sure. I mean, that would be great. This is the- But even that- Didn't we beat Buble in the finals? No, we won the title in that way.

Is that a metaphor for anything? No, I think we really did. Michael Buble. I think we beat Buble in the playoffs. Yeah, we won and done Buble. Thank you. Won and done Buble.

This is year 25 for my main league, so I completely understand. That's the one. Oh yeah. I want the most.

Three-time champion. All rise, speaking of lawyers, I guess the whole legal hour. All rise, Terzo in Iowa, the only other lawyer we'd kind of know right here on The Rich Eyes. What's up, Terzo?

You there, Terzo? Oh no, bad connection to Carl's. Oh no. I'm telling you what happened, man.

Hold on, sorry guys. Hey! Hey!

I thought service cut the phone line. All rise! What I was trying to say is, you got some of the coolest guests to come on your show, man.

Thanks, bud. Not often do I get to call in and disagree with the second gentleman. Four of us. No. Don't worry, I'm sure a lot of people in Iowa disagree with him. Don't worry about it.

You're not alone. For a different reason. Yeah, for a different reason, but I agreed with what he said about getting out and voting.

But you disagree with his take on the Niners, I imagine. Absolutely. Well, you know I took that one to heart. Right, I know. Right, exactly.

But what else is on your mind? Well, Rich, I think it was a couple weeks ago whenever I called and I asked you what it would take for the Knicks in this off-season to start to compete with the Celtics. I did not expect them to make this trade. I love it.

I think it's a great trade for them. I do too. It's just not a name like, you know, somebody's gonna be playing on the Olympic team type name. Right? Like some bold- You don't need that name, though. That's exactly, well- You don't need that name. Well, that's the question because Brunson is that name.

And so- Exactly. You've got to get complimentary pieces who can win you a game if Brunson has an off game. Yeah, you need your Richard Pritchers and guys like that. Richard Pritchers. Any of the- You mean the ones who walk before scoring before halftime?

First steps. Sorry, Terrence. Didn't mean to cut you off to make a gratuitous joke, but I did. I'm used to that happening. With his skillset, though, like you were talking earlier, he's a spot-up shooter. And when Brunson brings all that attention, you want that guy on the outside and he can guard Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.

I think it's a great ad. So good on you guys for making that move and not giving up a single first rounder this- This year. Draft tonight, which I'm excited to watch. Am I going to sit here and go, oh my God, they gave up the 2029 first after 2027 and 2025, and then the one in 2031? I mean, honestly, if that guy wins you a playoff game or two, or gets you to as close to the championship as you've been in a long time, are you going to lament that? No. What if the Nets use all those picks to get Wenby?

Why would they? Okay. Take it all day. In the NBA, there's only so many great players that come out each year, and I'd rather roll the dice on the guy that's already proven. Terrence, thanks for the call.

Appreciate it. Or Luca gets sick of Dallas, and the Nets package all these picks to go get him. Wenby's not leaving, not by trade at least. What do you mean? Oh wait, Tom Brady's never leaving New England, and Peyton Manning's never leaving the Colts. That was after he won six championships, bro.

What do you mean? Knicks shouldn't make this trade now to save their powder just in case Wenby has an itch after two, three seasons in San Antonio. All these picks, he could go get Giannis.

We know he's always, you know, stuff brewing there. Don't you think it would take more than five first rounders and a second and an unprotected pick swap to get Giannis? They'd have to give up actual real humans, more than Bogdanovich, more than Bogdanovich. Oh. You trade your whole team except Brunson, and every pick you have to get Giannis. That's what I'm saying.

So, I don't think that's gonna happen. Assets are assets, man. And by the way, guess what? If Giannis says, I want to leave Milwaukee, and I want to go to New York, you know what the Knicks don't need?

That many assets. Cause he's gonna, he could just say, I want to go there, and I want to go now, and I want a cheeseburger, and he'll get everything and like it. We'll see. So, Knicks can go ahead and get, and part of the reason why he might choose New York is because they made this trade. They're aggressive, and they're adding people to an already talented roster. A guy that already gets hurt wants to play for Tibbs? Who's getting hurt? Young **** all the time. Oh, great, then bring him.

So then you can't blame it on the coach. You know? Great, listen, let me ask you this question.

Webby. Wait, hold on a second. Do you smell?

The rockets coming? No. Fear?

Yeah, right, bro. Do you smell fear? Do you smell fear?

Like, why is he putting, like, what's with the pushback? His arrogance right now, Rich, is at an all-time high. So, he's not gonna sniff any fear. Do you smell, do you smell, do you smell fear?

The only thing funnier is being afraid of the Sixers. Let's see. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I do like this. This is good, this is good.

This is, you're trying to incite workplace violence. No, it's good, it's good, it's good. Secret Service is gone, right? We can now, I don't know, are you kidding on each other?

My man, Saint, might still be around the corner, and we bonded, so. No, that's all right. They're not here to protect me or anybody else. He was real quiet.

He didn't say that then, you know. No, no, no, I'm just thinking, do you smell like, how else, how else should we, how else should we interpret this? Eric.

Like, what do you say? The Knicks should save their powder for Giannis, just in case he wants to leave next year, or Wembe. Gotta take one of the McCallen Bridges to beat the Celtics, bro. Wembe spent one year in San Antonio, and he's already thinking he wants out, just cause it's San Antonio. We're gonna trade for Wembe. Can't see San Antonio. There's only a 0% chance Wembe finishes his career with his first. San Antonio has way more rings than the Celtics have had since 1986.

You probably said there's 0% chance he finishes in San Antonio. I smell fear. All right, in 20 years, we'll. That's the scent of fear I smell in this studio. That's what I smell. It's arrogance, Rich. That's that smell.

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