REShow: Robert Griffin III - Hour 2

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That's 877-ASK-DELL to save up to 48% on our latest technology. Earlier on the show, senior NBA writer for the athletic Sam Amick. Still to come, ESPN college football analyst Robert Griffin III. Plus, from the Apple TV Plus drama Blackbird, actor Paul Walker Houser. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

Yes, it is. Our number two of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Robert Griffin III of the worldwide leader in sports is going to join us shortly. We chop it up in terms of the National Football League, in which he used to toil, and which he discusses on ESPN all the time, talking college football as well.

He's going to be joining us in about 20 minutes time. The actor Paul Walter Houser of the Apple TV program Blackbird. He's also the guy who played Richard Jewell in Richard Jewell. He played Shawn Eckert in I, Tonya.

He's an excellent actor and a big-time basketball fan, making his way to the studio in hour number three to chop it up with us here on the last day of June. Let's monitor. Let's try to tie shows together. That's how we do it.

You know, you call this the Rich Eisen show. You could also call it the Rich Eisen tapestry, because we weave things together. We weave every day.

We weave segments together. We try to weave you into it on this program. We know what the name of the show is, because it's just your name, as Jay Billis pointed out. I know. I know. I appreciate that. This is the Rich Eisen show.

And welcome to it. And never forget how close it was to being the Rich Kofax show. Oh, wow.

That is a callback. Never forget that. The Rich Kofax. My mom went to high school with Sandy Kofax.

That is so crazy. And I think maybe went on one date with him or didn't or was, you know, being... Well, remember, you... I'm seeing her later today after this show, so I will see her and I'll say, hey, mom, TJ was maligning you on today's program. You better not.

And, you know, as the Bensonhurst harlot. No, because you said you asked her about it before and it wasn't him. I will then set it up with that. And she'll be like, why would TJ do that to me, is what she would say. I love you more. I'm like, mom, he still loves you.

That's the way the setup's going to be. But I will ask her again. I think that there was a conversation about a setup or they were at a, you know, at a social... You asked her before. It wasn't a date.

It wasn't a date. Right. I know. But you like to keep mentioning that, that my name could have been Rich Kofax.

Or Rich Drysdale, one of the two. Definitely not, sir. I'm just saying.

Don Drysdale was not in my mother's high school. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

And by the way, it was on this day in 1962, Sandy Kofax threw his first career. How about Mike Hoskins? How about that? Did you know that, TJ, when you brought that up? Very good.

Leading to the statue that's outside of the stadium here. Amazing. How dare you?

What was my point? Oh, the tapestry, the tapestry, the weaving together. Yesterday in our second hour, what a delightful chat with Mark Harbord.

Oh, my gosh. The PGA Tour player who has been on tour since 2015, who got into last week's Travelers in Connecticut, because Brooks Koepka tapped out to play in the Live Tour. And he's going to have his first Live Tour hole, one of his first of 54 tomorrow.

Right? That tee's off tomorrow. Live Tour tee's off today in two hours. Oh, my bad. It's a Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah, yeah.

Two hour start here. Brooks Koepka's on which team? Which team is he on? I don't look it up.

I don't care. Smashburger. Smashburger? Super Smashers or something? Actually, you know what he's on?

He's on the mighty, mighty Brooks Tones. Oh, hey. Oh, rich.

Never had to. Knock on wood. He's going to try and beat Reed Biv Devoe. Oh, hey.

Now you know. Team Reed Biv Devoe. Right? Poison deadly. Move real slow.

I don't know why I'm going in that way. By the way, one of the mighty, mighty Boss Tones, I think, was the house band of the Espys when I was up in the rafters with Stuart Scott for all those years. Mighty, mighty Boss Tones. Shout out to high school. Are they in basketball too? Are they in basketball?

I think they did the final halftime show. But Mark Hubbard is our new, we have now adopted Mark Hubbard, the Rich Eisen Show. We are team Mark Hubbard. What a great conversation we had with him yesterday in advance of around one of the John Deere Classic going on in the Quad Cities area in the great state of Illinois. And is he tee'd off?

What do we got here? Oh my gosh. So Mark Hubbard was in the 913 group this morning.

Okay, very good. So he tee'd off early. And our man Mark is T-10 right now. T-10. T-10.

He started on the back nine. He was in in 34, and he has now buried the fourth hole, so he is three under. Three under par. T-13.

How far is that off the lead? Unfortunately J.T. Pottson is dominating the course right now. He's eight under through 16.

So Mark's five back, but he's T-10. J.T. Pottson. J.T. Pottson. Yeah, J.T. Pottson.

Okay. P.J. Tucker.

Good for him. Look, not a lot of big, sexy names on the John Deere roster. Well guess what? J.T. Jackson. We're locked in on the P.J. Tucker.

CBS is covering it. I know. All right.

Mark Hubbard. T-10. Let's go.

And I would ask what the tee time is for the live tour, but as we all know, they tee off at the same time, which is what Patrick Reed said he loves about it, because it's better for competition that everyone's on the course at the same time. Great. Great. Wouldn't it be great? Nobody cares what Patrick Reed thinks. Well, we'll find out, won't we?

We'll find out, won't we? Pumpkin Ridge, though, for a live tour, in case you're interested. Very good. Beautiful course, by the way. Beautiful course. Tiger won one of his three USAMs. I mean, dude, great course.

No doubt about it. So that's what's going on in the world of golf. Let's go, Mark Hubbard.

Let's go, Mark Hubbard. So it is the last day of June, okay, and it's sleepy times for the National Football League. Sleepy, sleepy.

It is, indeed. Sleepy time. It is sleepy time for that. So I've decided to use that as a metaphor, or use that metaphor to launch into a top five list.

Ooh. I have come up with the top five teams folks are sleeping on. And when I say folks are sleeping on, I'm not talking about a team that went six and 10 or six and 11, pardon me, last year, five and 12 last year, okay, and that's gonna come out of nowhere and make the playoffs and surprise you.

I'm talking about teams that can do some considerable damage. Okay. Okay.

And they're being slept on. That are not being talked about enough. Okay.

People, because we're focused on too many other teams. So Jay Felley, I need some of NFL Films finest. Hit it. You got it. All right, we ready for this? Here we go.

All right. Top five teams that we're all sleeping on. Shut up number five, Mike Hoskins, cause I'm trying to find a list here in front of me. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers, everyone.

It is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Look who's up on the screen. Who is that? Who is that, Chris? Third string quarterback.

My man, Kenny Pickett, who should have been a top five pick. I know that. Oh yeah.

He wasn't. And you still owe TJ Jefferson money for that. I got money.

Do you want it right now? Look, the Pittsburgh Steelers, we are too focused on everybody else in the AFC North. And meanwhile, the Pittsburgh Steelers are sitting down at the bottom of this list at number five. Kenny Pickett, is he going to start or not? It looks like it could be Mitchell Trubisky, but I'm talking about year two, year two of Najee Harris.

What is this kid going to look like in year two with his feet completely wet and ready to go? Chris Patrick is now playing with heavy pockets just like TJ Watt did last year, okay? You got your guy Cam Hayward sitting right there on that defensive line as well. Everybody's sleeping on him. Nobody's talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers because we're talking about more importantly two other teams in the AFC North with the Ravens and what's going on with Lamar Jackson and then clearly everything going on with the Cleveland Browns.

So that's number five on my list. Number four is a team that used to be in the running every single year in the NFC South because they had a Hall of Fame quarterback. Last year, the quarterback was a major problem. And now their coach who has been with that team attached at the hip with that Hall of Fame quarterback for all those years, he is now on the set of Fox. And Jameis Winston's coming back from a knee injury and everyone's wondering what he's going to look like.

Guess what? The New Orleans Saints still have that defense. And I told everybody last year, this is a defensive team dressed up in offensive guru clothing. Now the offensive guru is again sitting on the set of Fox for this year.

For this year. I think Sean Payton will be back on the sideline at this very point one year from now. But Michael Thomas is coming back everybody. That's another thing we're sleeping on.

We're sleeping on this guy because we haven't seen him in a year. And he's coming back and we're assuming Alvin Kamara is going to be available to this team. And the defense has not changed. I like this team. Nobody's talking about the New Orleans Saints because Tom Brady's back.

So on and so forth. I think the Saints are a playoff team. What do you think about them apples? I think you're wrong.

How do you think about them apples? I know you might disagree with me, but nobody's talking about the Saints. You know the thing about Mike Rich? You can't guard him.

You can't guard him. Number three on this list is a team that I've been talking about. I think I'm the only one talking about him.

Everybody's talking about Kansas City because why not? It's Patrick Mahomes. He's very popular. Henry Winkler loves him. He's very good. He wants to give him a chicken dish with ricotta cheese and a nice reduction.

Exactly. Everybody's talking about why Tyree Kilz left and what are the Chiefs going to do? Justin Herbert is a top many people's MVP list for the upcoming season.

I want him in fantasy so bad. They added J.C. Jackson. They added one of the best players on defense of the last several years as well. To add to Joey Bosa on that line, Khalil Mack is now going to be wearing powder blue here in Los Angeles.

That's crazy. And then Denver. Denver got Russ. Denver got Russ. Russ is going to cook in Denver. Denver was always that team on the last several years.

They had so many great young offensive weapons just hit the quarterback and they got Randy Gregory. Everybody keeps sleeping on the Las Vegas Raiders except me. I'll be fine with that. That's your team. You think they're winning the Super Bowl. I'm not thinking they're winning the Super Bowl. I'm saying they're winning this division. Everybody you keep sleeping on the silver and black. I'll be fine with that. I've made my point the last few weeks on this.

I don't need to belabor it any longer. But the number two team on this list is a team nobody is talking about at all. Dallas Cowboys. And that's the reason why my team isn't being talked about. This number two team is not being talked about.

Your Cowboys. That's why. That's a joke. No.

They're not. Nobody's talking about the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC East because nobody believes in Jalen Hurts. They added AJ Brown.

Miles Sanders. You see he said that they have like an all-star team. Do you see that? They feel like they're all-star team.

And I saw that. I thought to myself, oh God, that's like Vince Young's dream team. Don't do it. Dream team.

Dream team. No, no, no. Don't do it, Miles. Bad news.

Too late. They're asleep on you. And the top rushing offense from last year, mostly than not. Also you've got a defense that added not one, but two Georgia Bulldogs to Jordan Davis and Nicobe Dean. Do you see what they looked like last year when they were healthy?

Here they come. Fletcher Cox is still there. The offensive line is mostly intact, right?

I like them, folks. They got the Heisman Trophy winner from two years ago. You like the quarterback? I dig the quarterback and I think Jalen Hurts is going to improve. He's going to be better. And he has, as he said, when we interviewed him before he was drafted, he used a line that's everywhere now.

It says he has a dog in him. Nobody's talking about the Eagles, folks. And this team, number one on my list of folks who are not talking about this team.

This is number one for sure in my mind. And nobody's talking about them because of who they always used to be. Yes. Come on, Rich. Say it. Who they always used to be.

Say it. And what they used to be, they are not anymore. Because they've got a cigar smoking, ring finger pointing, big time quarterback who's only going to get better. And his problem about not being protected last year and the team made the Super Bowl anyway and had a chance to win it and led the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter.

And the problem was protecting Joe Burrow and they went and hit the hell out of that problem in free agency and then drafted smartly again. Nobody's talking about the defending AFC champion Cincinnati Bengals if this were the Chiefs who lost the Super Bowl. If this were the Bills who lost the Super Bowl. If this were, name another team that lost the Super Bowl and almost had a chance to win the Super Bowl and had a spectacular young quarterback who's done nothing but prove he's a winner everywhere he's ever been and have a glaring weakness that they smartly and rightly fixed and have a young head coach who knows how to put it together and they re-sign that guy too. Name me another team in that situation and they would be talked about every single day when a conversation about who might win that conference coming up next time. But no, the Cincinnati Bengals are still the Bengals, are the Bengals from yesteryear and that is not the case anymore. The number one team that folks are sleeping on talking about are your defending AFC champion Cincinnati Bengals who are just going to take that and probably jam it down your throat more often than not in 2022. Take that for data.

Take that for data. Run tell that. Man, I really thought you were talking about the Patriots. I'm not talking about the Patriots, man. People are talking about the Patriots.

Are they? They always do because it's Belichick and eventually we'll get around to it. Talking about the Dolphins, maybe more than the Patriots, that's true. The Dolphins we're talking about more than the Bengals. We're talking about the Ravens about more than the Bengals. We're talking about every other team in the division minus the Steelers. Well, I guess so half the division. We're talking about the Bills more. We're talking about every team in the AFC Westmore, even the Raiders get talked about more because Devante Adams is where he is.

They got Jamar Chase in here too. What the hell is that going to look like? Scary.

Scary. If the Bengals come back healthy, we'll be talking about them, but right now you're not and we are on the Rich Eisen Show. We're not talking about the Eagles because you're Cowboys. The Giants, you know, Washington commanders, they got a new name, they got a new quarterback. They got Terry McLaurin paid.

They got a defensive coordinator who is now going to rename his blitz scheme and insurrection. We're talking about that more. We're talking about dust ups more than what the Philadelphia Eagles can do.

That's my closed book. Rich, you think maybe the reason people aren't talking about the Bengals so much is they're not what I'm saying that maybe the reason being is that, yeah, they went to the Super Bowl and I think we all think that they'll do great this year. But the fact is they were 10 and seven last year. So maybe some maybe people are thinking that they have a great season or did they just get high and have a great run at the end of the season that propelled them to the Super Bowl. So maybe that's why. And plus you look at the number of quarterbacks who have gone to the Super Bowl the first time and not made it back.

It's like a staggered. I know. I totally agree with you. I'm just saying I believe the Cincinnati is going to be good, but maybe that's why they're not getting here. So what's more likely? Here's a what's more likely, but what's more likely? You won't have this tomorrow. Plus, you know, I don't like what's more likely is that that go beyond a playing season, right?

Because like what somebody's going to put a pin in it and like come back at us. What's more likely? Joe Burrow is Dan Marino. Or Tom Brady. Oh, well, Dan Marino would be more likely. I'm not saying seven Super Bowls. Well, I know that's what I'm saying.

I know what I'm saying. What's more likely? Somebody who is going to go back to the Super Bowl multiple times, a la Brady, sure.

Bradshaw, Montana, whoever you want to use or Marino. One and doesn't get back. Year two makes it, never gets back.

I will take Burrow back. What's more likely? Never gets back to the Super Bowl again or never gets back to the Super Bowl? I would say more likely to never get back to the Super Bowl. Oh, no. Aaron Rodgers hasn't been back. No way. I mean, when you look at think about it, you've got to go back. I'll take that one. I'll take it. Kerry Collins, Rich Gannon, Jake Delum, McNabb, Hasselbeck, Grossman, Kaepernick, Cam, Matt Ryan, Jared Goff and Jimmy G all lost the Super Bowl in the first time around.

Never went back. Aaron Rodgers won it and still hasn't been back. Joe Burrow. It's me. Joe Burrow is going back to the Super Bowl.

How about this? Multiple times he will be back in the Super Bowl. That's a bold statement, Cotton. I know it is.

I'm going to write that. 10-19. He's so special. He is so very special. He is.

I am clearly all the way in on this guy. I don't know if this is the year he goes back. Back to back's a tough, a tough road. A tough road to hoe.

Multiple times he gets back. And part of the reason why you're saying what you're saying. History's on my side. History's on your side.

I'm with you here. It's our side. History's on your side collectively, okay? Part of what you're saying. But admit this. If I'm willing to admit what I'm saying, you have to admit this.

Part of the reason why you're saying what you're saying is not just history's on your side. It's all the Hall of Fame quarterbacks who make it once and never get back. You named me Marino and you're assuming Rogers won't get back in his remaining window.

Just to name two. Well, he's not feeling any pressure to get back. That's true. Part of the reason you're saying this is because you think the Bengals are the Bengals.

That's it. You don't believe the Bengals can do it. No, I just- You don't think the Bengals can do it because the Bengals are the Bengals.

They play in a stadium that doesn't have a naming right. You know, the owner is so, he's such a dinosaur and the Bengals will always bangle. They'll always screw it up.

Something will always happen to screw it up where they'll get in their way, their own way. And the Bengals are the Bengals. I'm here to tell you, Burrow has changed. It's over. That time is over for a long ass time.

Jamar Chase. It's not just Burrow either. Okay. I've made my point. You've made yours. Clearly there's a lot of runway for us to be proven correct.

A lot of runway. We've got about a day. Or incorrect. And like I said, we all believe the Bengals are going to be tough.

But to get back to the Super Bowl is just very hard to do. Let's take a break. Robert Griffin III is patiently waiting.

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Third, smoke multiple cigars. Joining us on the Mercedes-Benz phone line is one of my favorites who ran so expertly and run Rich Run and helped me raise as much money for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital as we possibly could together. From the worldwide leader in sports talking NFL and college football, but we'll talk more NFL right now with our friend Robert Griffin III. How you doing RG3?

I'm doing good Rich, but I'm doing much better now that I'm on the phone with you. I feel the same way. You know, I feel the same way.

I feel the same way. So let's just jump right into it because I've been, I'm one of the multiple millions of followers that you have on your social media accounts and I've been looking at your, some of the things that you've been saying on Twitter and I'm like, let me give RG3 a call and kick the tires on this a little bit. And you know, we'll start with a tweet that you put out a few days ago that you believe because of the way that the Dolphins have retooled their team in a way and added the cheetah Tyreek Hill, that too is going to take a big leap this year.

What makes you think that Robert? Yeah Rich, you know Tua really hasn't had an opportunity to truly go out and show the NFL world who he is. Last year he was, you know, throwing the ball in the pocket behind the 32nd ranked ass block unit in the league.

It seemed like at times the coaching staff wasn't truly sold on him, you know, whether it was bringing in Ryan Fitzpatrick or seeming like they wouldn't let him, you know, push the ball down the field, even though, like I said before, it just seemed like he just didn't have the time to do so. But Tua is an accurate quarterback, so when you bring him in and you bring in Tyreek Hill, you already have Jalen Roddle there. You bring in Cedric Wilson from the Cowboys, Mike Gasicki there, there's a great tight end who can stretch the field. And I think they did a really nice job of bringing in Terron Armstead, the left tackle from the Saints, and then Connor Williams, who did struggle a little bit last year, but it's still an upgrade for them at the center position there on that offensive line. I just think that they put so many weapons around Tua and they brought in an offensive minded head coach, Mike McDaniel, that Tua's got one of two options, right? He's either going to prove that he's the guy this year, or he's going to prove that they need to draft a quarterback next year. So I'm on the side of, I think they'll take a big leap because I don't think he has a choice with all the weapons that they brought in for him. And I know I'm missing, leaving out some guys, you know, Lynn Bowden Jr. has got a chance to be a little bit of like a Deebo Samuel White for them. And Eric Izukamis is a draft pick that people aren't really paying attention to, but he's a phenomenal wide receiver last year at Texas Tech. So I think that they just have so many weapons and Tua's going to find a way to show the grit that I've seen from him this off season. You know, he's been a little testy with the media, you know, getting upset about some of the stuff that's being said.

And I think that's good for him. Well, I mean, what does it look like? What does success look like for Tua?

What does the big leap look like? I mean, numbers wise and wins wise, what do you what does that look like for you? Yeah, I know, you know, everyone wants to wants to go to numbers and wins. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, Tua had 16 touchdowns and 10 picks. I think if he goes, if he goes 25 touchdowns, seven interceptions, I think that's a great year for Tua. The benefit that Tua has that a lot of other quarterbacks don't is there's no expectation for a Super Bowl this year for the Dolphins, right? Every team is going out there and they're putting everything they can out on the field to win a Super Bowl. But the Dolphins don't really have that expectation. It's not the same as Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Tom Brady. So Tua doesn't have to get the Dolphins in the playoffs. They don't have to win the Super Bowl for it to be a successful year for him.

Because that's what we're really talking about here for him. You just have to show that he can be a franchise quarterback. Do I think that Tua can take that big leap and include a playoff berth?

Yes, I do. With this roster, the way their defense played last year, yes, I think he can do that. Does he absolutely need that to happen for it to be a big leap for him? No.

I think if he just shows that he is that guy, I think the Dolphins will be very happy with him. Well, that's a very nuanced take and I greatly appreciate it because that's what I'm all about too. Right now, Robert, you and I are in the mosh pit of Sports Talk Radio. So let's get right down to it. Chris, ask him the what's more likely scenario that you asked of me two weeks ago. We have this Friday segment where Chris comes up with some scenarios here about what is more likely, A or B. Ask Robert Griffin III.

Yeah, it's just very silly, Robert. Okay, so what's more likely that Tua has 30 combined touchdowns, running and throwing, or he struggles and Tom Brady is a Dolphins quarterback in 23. It's more likely that Tua has 30 combined touchdowns. There you go. Welcome to 2-0, Robert.

Welcome to 2-0. I don't think Brady goes to the Dolphins. I know there's all the stories about that, but I think now Brady's in Tampa Bay.

He's either going to win there or it'll be done. I don't think he's playing for another team. Robert Griffin III here on the Rich Eisen Show.

Well, we just touched upon Brady a little bit. Another tweet that I saw, you were on Get Up in the beautiful New York, downtown New York studios that the worldwide leader in sports has for that program. And you said that if Gronk does not come back, if Gronk stays retired, you will jump in the East River. Now, Robert, I know you're not from New York City. I'm from New York City.

I'm from Staten Island, New York, born in Brooklyn, raised in Staten Island. The East River is not something you want to jump into, RG3. You want no piece of the East River. You want no piece of it. Yeah, Rich, I was told shortly thereafter that there's a chance that if I jump into the East River, I could walk out a couple inches taller, maybe have an extra toe or a foot.

Yes, sir. So I'm really like, I'm like praying every night, you know, please, God, let Rob Gronkowski come back so I don't have to jump into the East River in the winter. But I will stay true to my word, and if he does not come back, I'll go jump in the East River and we'll see if I survive. That will be an outstanding episode of Get Up.

I would set my DVR for that right now if I knew what day that would happen, but I'm kind of with you. Like right now, Gronk wants no piece of the training camp. He wants no piece of that. And what he wants is peace and quiet. He doesn't want people walking around asking him all the time if he's coming back or not. That's the way I'm kind of reading it right now.

Yeah, Rich, I read it the same way. But Gronk saw what Brady did. And once Brady retired, after a couple of weeks, people kind of died down on talking about where he was going or what he was going to do. I think Gronk's feeling the same way.

For his mental health, doesn't want to be talked about all the time about whether he's coming back or not. And then for his physical health, missing training camp, the preseason, and maybe the first eight, nine weeks of the season is going to be the best thing for Rob Gronkowski. This guy went from the WWE back to the NFL and won a Super Bowl.

So I put nothing past him. I think that he's still a great player. He had 800 yards of season last year and was on pace to have another monster year before he got hurt and banged up there near the end. But Rob Gronkowski is one of my favorite players. I love the Gronk spike. I love his attitude, the energy he brings to the game. And I know him retiring probably made a lot of fans sad. Because he's just such a fun player. And I think when Brady makes that call from week 12-13, he'll pick up and come back. I love the use of when, not if in that phrase, RG3.

I love that. Because you're right though. I mean, he's going to make that phone call. And that's with all due respect to his entire depth chart at the tight end position. Nobody's Gronk. Nobody's Gronk in terms of experience and history with Tom Brady. Nobody is Gronk. Exactly, Rich.

And I'll even make it more granular for you. Like over the last two seasons with Brady and Gronk being there in just Tampa Bay, they've been a top five red zone offense. When Gronk is on the field, Brady hasn't thrown an interception in the last two seasons. You know, 66 touchdowns and zero picks in the red zone with Tampa Bay. And more than, I think it's about 40 of those have come with Gronk being on the field.

So he's a massive threat for them. He's a security blanket for Tom Brady. They've won four Super Bowls together. And I've said this before, I'll say it again, he's the greatest tight end of all time. He's won four Super Bowls with Brady as Brady's tight end. And he's said Brady's tight end a lot of times as well. So I think Tom Brady will be making that call.

It's not a matter of if, like you said, it's a matter of when. Robert Griffin III from the worldwide leader in sports here on the Rich Eisen Show. So let's dive into the Baker Mayfield conversation for a little bit here, Robert, since you have a history of, I guess, feeling, what's the word for, I don't know if disrespect, I don't want to put any words in your mouth, but feeling led astray a bit by the organization that drafted you for another quarterback. Although Deshaun Watson was not drafted in the same draft as Baker Mayfield, as Kirk Cousins was with you. But there's a lot of conversation right now as Watson is undergoing the disciplinary process with the league and the players association that should the suspension be so significant, Mayfield should consider maybe his best option is to stay put and use the team that he's currently upset with that drafted him to showcase his abilities for another deal.

I'm wondering if you would agree with that or you think he should get a fresh start and tell everyone to pound sand, Robert Griffin III. Rich, I'm actually going to take a different angle towards that because you asked the question as if should Baker decide to stay. I think the Browns should offer the olive branch to Baker and ask him to stay if Deshaun Watson gets suspended for a significant amount of time. Baker's proven that in this city he can go win a playoff game, get you to the playoffs, do all those things. Last year he played hurt and wasn't very effective. But the bottom line is, Baker Mayfield's better than Jacoby Brissette.

That's just the bottom line. And if you're going to have to play a full season with a guy, your best option is to go back to Baker Mayfield and beg him to stay and then present it to him in the same way that you just did, Rich. There's an opportunity for you to go prove yourself to the next team that you're going to go play for. Deshaun Watson's here.

They paid him 230 million rubies, whatever you want to call them. He's going to be the quarterback there at some point unless he's suspended indefinitely and some other thing down the line happens. So I think the Browns should approach Baker and say, we need you.

We're sorry how this all worked out, but we want to give you an opportunity to go out there and prove yourself. And I think Baker should take that. Now I have seen that Baker has already said that both sides have moved on. He doesn't want anything to do with the team, essentially. But I think he should reconsider that because this roster is stacked with playmakers at every position running back wide receiver, tight end, and they have a great offensive line.

You might not get a better opportunity to go out and prove yourself than Baker would have with the Browns. Yeah. I mean, but just imagine what it would be like just to walk through the hallways of that place when you've already put it in the dustbin of your memory, right, all week.

And I would just be staring at the ceiling sometimes saying, how the hell did this happen with the Browns? And to hell with them. But then again, I understand, I know your history as well, where you've taken jobs that you knew you had to take in order to get where you want to go. I get it, but man, that would be a tough one to swallow, if I may follow. Yeah.

No doubt about it. It would be tough for Baker to do that. And I think that's why he already came out and said that, you know, he's done with the Browns and he doesn't want to come back.

But as we all know, things can change in a heartbeat. Maybe they offer him a little bit more money to come back and do that. You know, they seem to be throwing money around like it's growing on trees, so maybe they could do something like that. But I tend to agree with you on this one, Rich, that Baker and the Browns are so far gone. And the Browns made the mistake of pursuing Deshaun Watson, along with the other 13 teams. But they made the mistake of pursuing him while they still had Baker on their roster. If they wanted to get rid of him, they should have traded him before they went to pursue Deshaun Watson, because now it's just a massive cluster.

So let me ask you this question, because you always seem game for this sort of stuff, Robert Griffin III. Had Washington called you after you parted ways with them and said, you know what, our situation's so dire, we want you back, would you have done it? I mean, last year, I put out the tweet and the Instagram post saying, make the call, when they were pretty banged up at quarterback. I just think it does require dire situations for guys to consider going back to a place that essentially is like the ex-girlfriend. They always tell you, don't go back to the person or go back to the place where you got hurt as far as emotionally. And for me, that would be, I'd be back to a place where I got hurt physically, emotionally and everything under the sun. But at the end of the day, if you love football and you love the guys in that locker room, the teammates that I still have or had there in Washington, then you make that sacrifice.

Because it's not about you in that moment, it's about you getting an opportunity to go play the game you love and put on a show for a fan base that you love. So yeah, if Washington had called me last year, would I have gone and went and balled out? Yes, 100%.

So I think it just depends on your own situation. Well, I kind of meant like right away, you know, they've changed team names twice, let alone coaches, right? So had it been right away, right, where the front office was pretty much darn the same and would you have done it, do you think? Yeah, Rich, that's a massive no. Yeah, that's a massive no. But yeah, I did understand the question at first.

No, no, no. After a few years, when they changed coaches, changed the administration, tried to implement things that make the organization better, yeah, it might give you some pause to say, okay, maybe I'll think about this, but no, not immediately, no way. Robert Griffin III here on the Rich Eisen Show, just a couple minutes left. I started the program earlier talking about my sleeper teams for the summer, going into the summer, teams that we're not talking about, that we should be talking about. And which team is number one for you on that list? I know which one mine is.

I can tap dance a little bit longer because you didn't know this question was coming. And I'm not talking about a team that was bad last year either. I'm talking about a team that was good and has an opportunity to be even better and maybe win it all, even though they didn't last year. Which one is that team for you, Robert Griffin III? Wow, I mean, that's a great question because I don't think the Bills are a sleeper team, right?

Correct. I think my sleeper team, to be quite honest, would have to be the Baltimore Ravens. They were good last year, even though they were banged up, the most banged up team in the entire league, and Lamar Jackson was the MVP probably halfway through the year, and then he got banged up. So I think the Ravens coming back with the help of Lamar Jackson, they're going to get Marlon Humphrey back, Marcus Peters back, their offensive line is going to be better with the additions that they made in getting back Ronnie Stanley. They're getting back their top three running backs that were all hurt last year, JK Dobbs and Gus Edwards and Justice Hill. So I think that would be my sleeper team, because they're kind of forgotten about right now in the AFC North, with the Bengals going to the Super Bowl, the Browns and all the controversy that's going on with them right now, and then of course the Steelers with that three-headed monster on defense and then bringing in Kenny Pickett and having all those young skilled guys.

The AFC North to me is just as competitive and exciting as the AFC West. So I look at the Ravens and I say that would be a big sleeper team for me, and then the New Orleans Saints. Yeah, the Saints are on my list too. Saints are on my list too.

I chose the same church, different pew. I went the Bengals. I don't recall a team that went to the Super Bowl, lost it, and almost won it and lost it. Nobody talks about them, honestly. And their one glaring weakness, their offensive line, they hit the heck out of it in free agency.

They actually shored it up, and they're coming back, and nobody's talking about the Bengals. That's number one for me. Yeah.

Robert. Actually, I don't disagree. I think the reason no one's talking about the Bengals is because we've had all this craziness going on in the AFC West with all this offensive firepower, but really what everyone is really trying to do is match what the Bengals have had when they drafted Jamar Chase, they got T Higgins, Tyler Boyd, those big three at wide receiver, and then they brought in Hayden Hurst, who was a former first round pick at tight end.

But I'm with you. Being on the offensive line is probably the most impressive thing all off season. It's been a quiet, quiet kept secret, because it hasn't been a mainstay on ESPN or NFL Live, but Ted Karras, Alex Capa, and then bringing in Lionel Collins, who had probably my favorite line of the off season when he showed up in Beto Burrow and basically told them, no one's going to touch you. I mean, listen, maybe your wife doesn't want to hear that, but as a quarterback, you definitely want to hear your offensive lineman telling you that no one's going to touch you.

So I thought that was pretty cool, and they're going to get a really, really good job of sharing up that offensive line like you talked about. As always, a delight, Robert Griffin III. Thank you. Look for my call.

I'd love to do this on the regular if you're up for it. Greatly appreciate it. Hey, I'm always up for it, Rich. Appreciate you having me, brother.

Right back at you. Robert Griffin III at RG3 on Twitter and Instagram right here on The Rich Isaac Show. Meanwhile, during our chat with RG3, an absolutely seismic story in the world of college football and college sports. Seismic is breaking. We'll tell you about that and react once again to a major story on the air live on The Rich Isaac Show when we return.

Back here on The Rich Isaac Show. So during the RG3 conversation, oh my God, oh my God, John Wilner, who covers college athletics, a syndicated reporter and many publications of note, he tweeted out, USC and UCLA are planning to leave for the Big Ten as early as 2024. Move has not been finalized at the highest levels of power. Nicole Auerbach, who works for The Athletic and our friend Bruce Feldman, Athletic and Fox Sports, both are saying they're hearing the same exact thing. USC and UCLA in the Big Ten. That means Adios Pac-12, unless somehow the Pac-12 and the Big Ten get together and decide to merge forces all together. Didn't they have kind of a co-allegient thing going on? Well, I mean, it's the Rose Bowl. They've had a Rose Bowl relationship since the dawn of time. But the allegiance or something that was called? Well, I mean, that was part of the response to Texas and Oklahoma leaving to the SEC. There's some sort of an alliance. The alliance. Right.

Between those two and was it the ACC as well? Oh, yeah. OK, right now. But I'm telling you, the battle lines have been drawn for quite some time. The NIL world is only serving to accelerate it. The fire has been burning.

The embers are apparent. This NIL stuff is an accelerant. OK. That's what this is. It is coming. The Super League of College Athletics is coming.

And you better get on board, because if you're not going to get on board, you're going to be left behind. USC and UCLA talking to the Big Ten. That is wild. Bruce Feldman says it is his understanding that the two schools here in Southern California, USC and UCLA reached out to the Big Ten. They said, hey, what do you think of this idea? Because they might be looking around at the Pac-12 and saying, this isn't working. And we need to move fast, just like Texas and Oklahoma did to spark this stuff. USC gets Lincoln Riley out of Oklahoma. And now they might take USC out of the Pac-12.

And of course, we all know, USC will wind up in the same division as Michigan, because we always have to play those guys. I know. Don't make this about you. Well, come on. It's the freaking truth.

It's the truth. Michigan's got to play Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State every year. The other teams don't every year. We've got to play Wisconsin, Iowa more often than not. Oh, yeah. USC will come to the Big Ten and they won't take on the team that they have a history with for the Rose Bowl over and over and over and over again. No, no, no, no, no.

USC doesn't have to play Michigan every year and Michigan doesn't have to play USC every year. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's a fact. But welcome. Bring it.

Because that just means two things. One thing, just for the Big Ten overall, huge relevance in the world where you need to stay relevant. And two, for me personally, I get to go down the Ten Freeway and see my team every now and then.

Yeah, once a year you get to see them now. Go to the Rose Bowl? Michigan?

Oh, yeah. Michigan. They won't put Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

They won't do that. Well, why? Because Michigan has no history of the Rose Bowl. Oh, wait a minute. They helped found the damn game.

I don't know how you're making this story about Michigan. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

Just a little bit unique skill that you have. You know what? I do.

Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. But these are just the facts. These are the facts. There will be times where Ohio State doesn't play USC every year. That will happen.

This is about the implosion of the Pac-12, not how it affects Michigan. Well, guess what? I only had a few minutes here. I decided to use that real estate here.

At the top of the next hour, we've got a whole segment to fill on more, one would think, universally relevant topics other than the ones that personally affect me and cause my gut to just tense up. One of your finer skills. Thank you. I got to commend you.

I'm saying it's my hosting skills to know I've got a few minutes of real estate here and I've got a larger piece of real estate coming up in the next hour for me to expand on another thing that proves me correct. So don't worry. I'll still twist it. I am also here for all the Twitter jokes right now of like the first time USC loses 1310 in Iowa.

They'll rethink this. Hey, man, I was a tough place to play. It's a hell of a lot tougher to play than Washington State, Oregon State, Utah. Can't wait for that UCLA Northwestern noon kickoff.

Hey, man. I would put Big Ten's competition up against the Pac-12 competition. I would put our markets in the Big Ten up against the markets in the Pac-12.

The Big Ten is obviously deeper than the Pac-12, a super topic. They're reading the room. They're seeing their room and the room isn't just the Pac-12. It's the entirety of college athletics. And somebody's thinking about the future. They're thinking about how can we stay relevant? And I bet you right now, right now, somebody in the campus of Eugene, Oregon is freaking out. Take us too. It's not us. Don't leave us behind. They're looking for that dinghy on the sinking ship right now.

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