REShow: Bob Costas - Hour 3 (8-3-2022)

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Upgrade today by calling 877-ASK-DELL, that's 877-ASK-DELL, to save up to 48% on our latest technology. Earlier on the show, host of Peacock's Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio. United States President's Cup captain, Davis Love III. Legendary broadcaster, Bob Costas.

Colts defensive tackle, DeForest Buckner. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. We kindly ask those who have been on hold the last couple of segments to stay on hold one more time. I know there's so many people who want to share their thoughts and memories of the great Vin Scully.

I was fortunate enough to have a platform here in our number one to do exactly that. If you missed the way that the show opened up, or anybody else on this program that has talked about Vin, we've got our YouTube feed, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen show for that. Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk in our number one. Davis Love III came on the show to talk about the Live Tour and the way that he is still supporting the PGA Tour. And the Live Tour, on behalf of ten of the golfers, the players of the Live Tour, Phil Mickelson and also Bryson DeChambeau, they sued the PGA Tour in the last hour.

So, we have now reached the litigation portion of this here to do in the golf world. 844-204 Rich is the number to dial here on the program. Joining us now on the Mercedes-Benz phone line is one of my favorites and I'm thrilled to be able to call him a friend who I can call up and say let's help our audience remember the great Vin Scully. The great Bob Costas is here on the Rich Eisen show. How you doing Bob?

I'm okay Rich and I don't think that today is as much a sad day as it is a milestone, a certain passage. Vin lived into his mid-90s and we knew that he was in failing health and I think this is an occasion to recall yet again what a giant he was in broadcasting and one of the most significant figures in the history of baseball. You know, you think about the great, great players. None of them were any better at what they did than Vin Scully was at what he did. A long life, a life well-led, not just a career well-led but a life well-led. If any of us can look back on our own lives as we're winding down with even a measure of that much justifiable satisfaction and Vin was a humble man so he didn't burn on his sleeve but if you can look back at your own life and say that whatever it was I did that I loved doing, I did as well as I possibly could and I was nearly as well regarded for it as Vin Scully. It's both a professional and a person. That's nothing to cry about.

That's something to celebrate. Bob Costas here on the show. When was the first time you met him, Bob? First time I met him, of course, I felt like he was part of my life and I'll tell you a story about that in a moment. From the time I was a very young child, the first time I met him was before Game 1 of the World Series in 1982, 40 years ago. I was hosting the pregame show for NBC, the Brewers and the Cardinals at Busch Stadium in St. Louis and Vin was doing the games on CBS radio and I'm standing along the first baseline waiting on the air and I'm very, very nervous. I was doing a jitters dance and I'm 30 years old and it looked like I was 15 and here comes Vin Scully into my line of vision and I say, Excuse me, Mr. Scully, my name is Bob Costas and it's a pleasure to meet you. And, pardon me, he goes, he turns around and says, I'll do my peak, Vin Scully. Oh, Bob, of course, I know who you are. You've done very well and I'm sure there are great things ahead.

Well, at that point, I'm thinking if I get hit by a bus, I've already led a full life. Everything's good. By the way, that's a very, very good Vin Scully impression, Bob, I got to tell you. But I'm sure you've had many, many opportunities to work on it. So, the story when you were a kid is what?

Involving Vin? Well, this. I don't really remember Vin Scully on the Brooklyn Dodgers. The Dodgers and Giants went west when I was five years old. But we went west for a brief period of time and there's a back story there that I won't burden you with here. But we went west in 1960, in September of 1960.

And my mom and sister went ahead and my dad and I are driving across country, a five-day drive from New York to what will be our new home for a couple of years in Southern California. And baseball kind of stitched the trip together. You know, you're picking up E.K.A. in Pittsburgh and Bob Prince. And now here comes W.J.R. in Detroit and Ernie Harwell.

And picking up Jimmy Dudley on 3W.E. in Cleveland with the Indians games. And Jack Buck and Harry Caray on KMOX in St. Louis with the Cardinals games. And now we're getting closer to the west coast.

Pardon me again. And as we got to the Rocky Mountains, most of the signals had faded. And then we must have got to maybe Nevada. And through the crackle and static, here comes the Dodgers. And I remember my dad saying, we're almost there. That's Vin Scully. So that's the first time I became aware of Vin Scully. And it wasn't until maybe ten years ago that I became aware of this. It just dawned on me.

It was right in front of me if I'd ever taken note. Vin Scully and my dad were born on the same day, November 29th, 1927. You know, that's one of those things that Vin would turn into a story. You know, the irony here is that young lad who hoped to be a broadcaster, well, his dad was born on the same day I was.

And now here's that young boy sitting next to me now here on NBC. You know, he turned that into a story. Well, and that's the beautiful thing about Vin is, is he the greatest yarn spinner ever during a live broadcast or otherwise?

I don't think you could put anybody ahead of him. Right. I mean, and his ability to weave them into pitches and then the aside of that's outside two and one. At any rate, and just continued telling a story, he was made for the sport, made for it.

Yes. Baseball lends itself to a certain kind of broadcasting that other sports don't. But nobody mastered that platform like Vin Scully did. It worked alone, which is not some edict of his own.

It's a vestige of the era that he came out of. All the radio broadcasters worked alone. They handed it off to each other. One guy did the middle innings and one guy did the first few innings. But these were Red Barber's innings and these were Vin Scully's innings.

So you're working alone on radio and you learn how to fill those spaces, not just with words, but also with silence and crowd sound, almost like a conductor with an orchestra. So whether it was on television or on radio, he knew how to make that work. And toward the end, especially on Dodgers broadcasts, the people in the truck understood that too. So Dodger broadcasts were very uncluttered. There was never an extraneous replay or an unnecessary graphic or some kind of hocus pocus coming from a production standpoint. Vin was telling a story. They knew that that was the ace in the deck.

Why mess with anything else? That's what the audience came for. And he understood the rhythms and takes of baseball so well that his stories were seldom interrupted. There was a standing joke among broadcasters. They were lined into a double play to abruptly end an inning when Vin Scully was telling the story. Somehow the baseball gods would not allow that. If the count had to go to three and two on this batter with several foul balls for him to complete the anecdote about this batter, well, that's the way it happened. It's amazing, Bob, that you're so spot on. Because I was watching last night so many Vin moments and I would be sitting there thinking, how's he going to get this story and it's three and two?

Like, what's going on? And you're right, like the baseball gods allowed him the space to finish up what he was saying. And also, he's got to be the last guy that will ever, in a broadcast, have the station broadcasting or the outfit broadcasting cough up a minute or a minute and a half of advertising time so they could come back early before an inning starts so he could turn his back to the field and his face to the camera and just tell a story. Like, we'll never see that again.

We'll never see that again. Yes, that was one of the features of the broadcast, usually around the fifth inning or so. Some little vignette that went 60 seconds or 90 seconds and then he would always end with a little wink and say, let's get back to this one. So this is just a little interlude, a little story that your Uncle Vin is telling you and now let's get back to this game. Bob Costas here on The Rich Eisen Show.

I'll ask it. I know that this kind of is like a sports talk radio question, but I'll ask it anyway. Which do you think is his biggest, best moment, meeting the moment, the moment being as big as it was, him meeting it, letting the crowd also tell the story where he was the maestro of it all, Bob? Which one stands out? Well, there are so many that could be tied first.

I'm going to name three before I get to the one that is actually my choice. These three are better known to the national audience than the one I'm going to choose because they were either on national TV or it was a moment everybody saw on TV, which was Hank Aaron's 715th home run, which was called by Curt Cowdy on NBC television, by Milo Hamilton in very exciting and capable fashion on Braves radio, and also by Vin on Dodgers radio. So people know what he said, not just the call of the home run, but in the aftermath. What a marvelous moment for baseball and for the country.

A black man is getting a standing ovation in the deep south for breaking the record of an all-time baseball idol. Vin excelled not just on the call of the play, but the sort of postscript thing that tied a ribbon around it, or the framing of a big moment leading up to the dramatic payoff. So that's where the Curt Gibson at-bat in 88 fits in.

And it was not incidental, but that count went to three and two were simple foul balls. So the anticipation played out. First you saw Gibson in the dugout.

He hadn't even suited up before the game. Then you see him limping out of the on-deck circle, and then the at-bat plays out in the 10-build. He struck out.

In fact, him striking out Dennis Eckersley was much more likely than the home run. But no matter what had happened, Vin had framed it. The ball going through Bill Buckner's legs. Vin's voice almost cracks.

And that actually conveys something to the audience. Even the great Vin Scully, paragon of professionalism, is so shocked by the bizarre turn of events in this inning that his voice almost cracks. He doesn't fail to dot an I or cross any T. The call is completely accurate. But he's starting to say, little roller, up along first, behind the bag. And then he realizes that the ball is going to go under his glove. And it becomes, behind the bag! And you just hear that little quiver in his voice, which communicates to the audience, I'm as shocked by this as you are. And then he immediately picks up.

It gets to Buckner. Here comes Knight, and the Mets win it. As you know, after the Gibson home run, the great line, he has a little bit of time to gather himself. And the crowd has exploded, and all the tumult is happening on the field. And the great line, in a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened.

Well, if you've got a week to think of better captions beneath that picture, how could you possibly do better? So now here's my voice. It's the radio call in September 1965 of Sandy Koufax's perfect game. And what you often hear on highlight reels is just the last pitch to Harvey Keene swung on and missed a perfect game. But if you listen to the entire inning, this is such a masterpiece.

If you had a week to sit down and look at this thing and try and improve upon a comma, you could just walk away shaking your head saying, nothing to do here. Perfect as is. Extemporaneously, absolutely perfect. Every little detail, every observation, every grace note and turn of phrase. Even if Harvey Keene had gotten a base hit, it would have been a masterpiece leading up to that conclusion.

You just can't improve upon that. As a fellow broadcaster, you stand in awe, not just respect or admiration, you stand in awe of that level of talent. Bob Costas here on The Rich Eisen Show. That was perfect in its own right there, Bob.

Thank you for that. And on top of all that, the moments you just mentioned in Scully's career where he met the moment and the moments were huge. Obviously, all of them were baseball. He called the catch. He called Montana the Clark, which is if you put together the top ten moments in the history of the NFL, immaculate reception.

I mean, we could go on and on and on. But the catch is there, not just because of how spectacular a play it was, but it is the moment where the Niners finally hit back at Landry's Cowboys and sparked not only this rivalry that still happens to this day. We talk about it at the last year's playoff game when the Niners and Cowboys played one another. But it was Montana's moment of arrival. It was Candlestick's potentially best moment ever. Scully had that too, Bob.

Unreal. Yeah, there was a line somewhere in there that Candlestick Park is a madhouse. Then had a quality in his voice. Of course, it was distinctive and it was very pleasing. And it was very well suited to the rhythms and pace of baseball, which he seemed to understand intuitively.

But in any sport he called, this might not seem obvious until someone points it out. Vin's voice, like Al Michaels in his own way, is in a high register. It's not a basso profundo voice. It's in a high register, naturally.

So that cuts through crazy crowds, whereas people whose voices are at a lower register sometimes get lost in the crowd. Vin's voice, as does Al Michaels in his own way and some others, cuts through every time. Unbelievable. Bob, I really appreciate the time. Before I let you go, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about the here and now. Your impressions of the trade deadline that just passed in baseball and how that might resonate and start pond ripples, dominoes tumbling towards October.

What do you think? Well, I can't recall a crazier or more interesting trade deadline burst of activity than this one. And of course, the Soto trade is at the heart of it. But you have to say this, that if Mike Rizzo's back was against the wall with the Nats, if he had to make some kind of deal, he certainly got everything he possibly could.

He pretty much got the cream of the crop of the Padres' farm system. But the Padres are serious about this. You know, Josh Bell is a really good player, an all-star caliber player. Soto is the jewel, but Bell is nothing to scoff at. They have improved their team dramatically. And even though they're not going to catch the Dodgers in the National League West, if they get into the playoffs, and they certainly have a great chance to do it, they're a threat to go deep into the playoffs now.

So yeah, you would definitely call them a World Series contender now in a manner in which they weren't about 72 hours ago. That's for sure. Yeah, that's for sure. Bob, thanks for the time. Greatly appreciate it. Be well. Let me know when you're out here.

Let's hang out. You got it. Thanks again for everything. Crossman Rich. Right back at you.

Thank you. That's Bob Costas. Who better than a 28 Emmy Award winner? 28-time Emmy Award winner to tell you about why Vince Scully was great and what was great about him.

Props to Bob for his amazing impersonation. He's been around them. Can you imagine 1982? You're nervous. You're 30 years old. You've made it to NBC Sports. You're ready to do some World Series action. You've loved baseball ever since you were a kid. You've got Mickey Mantle's card in your back pocket. You know, all of what we know about Bob's love of the game. Vince Scully's like, I know you, and great things are happening for you, and great things are going to keep happening. That's what he said.

If I could buy a bus, I'm already ahead of the game. You know? And I will say this. I will say this about Bob, too. Guy pays it forward because I reached out to him when I started doing baseball games for ESPN. I reached out to him when I was 26, 27 years old. And he answered the call.

And he kind of said the same thing to me of what Vince said to him. Know who you are. Like what you do.

You've got stuff going for you. We had dinner in New York City before a Yankee playoff game at Yankee Stadium. He picked up the check, told me a lot about the broadcast business, about what I was doing, what I could improve upon, and gave me a lift to the stadium where I did my job. That's cool. Didn't know me from Adam. Just knew me as that guy on TV who had reached out to him. So whatever Vince said to him, he paid it forward to me.

That's neat. Yes, if this equation happens, like the way that Vin was him, and he's now Vin to me, that means I have 28 more Emmys coming to me when I've got zero right now. So I've got to come fast and furious. Right now, I'm halfway to Susan Lucci, as you know. Even she eventually won, right?

Thank you, sir. She got it. What, on her 13th try? Was it when I was 12? No. Really?

It was way longer than that. I'm 0 for 6. I'm 0 for 6. Because I got one before. It was a while. I am 0 for 6.

I know, I'm the same. I'm on NFL Network 19 years now, and I've gotten six NOMs in 19 years. So I'm like, it's one every three years, even though it's two years in a row now, so I've been catching up on NOMs. But I'm 0 for 6 in terms of winning it. Lost to Bob twice or three times.

I think Ernie Johnson once. She went 18 straight. Yeah, I said 20. I was right up.

18. Yeah, because I remember when she won. Wow. So I'm a third of the way to Susan Lucci. Yeah.

She finally won in 99. There you go. Hey, got to keep at it. Notice the grindstone. I had two, actually, at that point. Keep putting layers of paint on the wall here on the Rich Eisen Show every day.

New layer of paint every day. And I've got 12 more to go of unsatisfactory results. I'm just wondering, did Susan Lucci have to sit through three and a half hours of a ceremony with her? No food, no drink, sitting in there, and you have to sit through all three and a half hours? Yeah, but those things are on TV, Mike.

Those are two hours. Boom. Done. No, no, no. I mean, yeah. That was, by the way, that would be a drop. I want that as a drop.

I want you for going, no, no, no, yeah. It's like that GIF of that woman just shaking her head. Or that Alonzo morning. Alonzo morning. That was actually then.

He just did the Alonzo GIF right there. No, maybe. Right there.

All right. We'll take a break here on the Rich Eisen Show. Guess what, man?

Tua has chimed in on Brady being tampered with by his owner, the man who writes the checks who just keeps on looking around for anybody not named Tua to be his starting quarterback, it seems. That's coming up. Does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day? Dove Men PlusCare Dry Spray goes on instantly dry for a cleaner feel and offers 48 hours sweat and odor protection.

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Goes on dry, clean feel all day. 844-204-rich numbered adult here on the program. Okay, everybody, yesterday's news, still today's news. In the National Football League, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, not with the team today. Oh.

Hey. He's been suspended. He may not be around until the middle of October because Stephen Ross, according to the NFL, he denies this, a full throated denial that he says he won't refute because he doesn't want this to be a distraction anymore, too late, that he and another member of the management team and ownership group reached out to Tom Brady, not this year when we were rumored to hearing it happen. And Mike Florio was on an hour number one, did a victory lap because he's been saying this has happened for sure. And now it's been confirmed by the commissioner of the NFL that Brady wasn't even approached by the Dolphins just in this calendar year or at the end of last year when he was a buck. No, they first started approaching him in 2019 when he was a Patriot. Okay. So no first rounder next year, no what third rounder the year after that, and a million and a half dollars taken out of the Ross trust fund.

I think he's still doing all right. Florio agreed with me though yesterday. It just doesn't seem like it's very strong enough. Yeah. If that's the owner doing that and you don't use it, I know draft picks are big, two draft picks. A million and a half. I mean, apparently it's the max he can hit him.

It's the max and the CVA is. Yeah. And I don't think owners are going to basically say, let's up what you can take out of our pockets if we just can't resist going after Tom Brady. All right.

Well, thank you for bringing that. And again, anybody who thinks it's Brady at fault here, what do you suppose? Stephen Ross, hey man, don't call me.

This is tampering. How dare you? How dare you try to tamper with me when you know the Patriots have not given me what I wanted and I've been taking hometown discounts here forever. And now it appears that I am about to be a free agent. How dare you? I am hanging up the phone. Click. Give me a break.

What did I say though at the end of yesterday when I had my first crack at this subject matter? I want to hear from Tua Tungo Vailoa. That's who I want to hear from because this guy, this guy spent all last year hearing about the Sean Watson and how Stephen Ross got permission from the Texans to meet with Watson before the trade deadline to basically look him in the face, say, how many more are these are? He was the Haslam's before the Haslam's, but didn't pull any trigger because you'd have to give up draft compensation to bring this into your house. At least Cleveland just waited till he was through not being criminally charged before they sent all the compensation for him. I want to hear from Tua because not only did that happen, now he's hearing that they went after Brady before they drafted him. And now he's hearing, because you can't even blame him for that, certainly if you knew that Tua had his hip exploded. So all your plans of trying to get him and tank for him, now you've got to go to plan B or plan TB. So now you're hearing, you went after him when?

Like after I played last year? Really? I thought this new head coach is here because he's the one who can help unlock my skill set. Well, Tua was asked about all this today.

Let's see if Salty Tua, who I love, we need to hear more from, right now he's slightly edgy Tua. I need full salt here is what he had to say. I would say everyone heard about it yesterday when we went into the locker room, seen it on the TV. For me, I have no idea about all the details other than what was shown on TV with the 1.5 million dollar fine and then something happening with Brady. I mean, I don't know all the details, I don't even know what happened, but I got to talk to a couple of the guys, you know, to kind of find out what was going on and everyone's wondering the same thing, so not too sure.

I remember I came in 2020, so whatever happened in 2019, I don't even, I can't even speak on that, so I was here 2020 and I'm still here and I'm blessed to be here, you know. If it has to do with support from the team, I think the team's all in with me and all the guys that we have now. Writing's on the wall for Tua, man.

Owner is not sold. Certainly if Tom Brady has a terrific 45th trip around the sun, he turns 45 today, he turns 45. Like I said, what's more likely, Tua 30 combined touchdowns or Brady's the Dolphins quarterback?

I hear you and it's Brady's the Dolphins quarterback. I said that and all my Tuanon friends were like, I thought you loved Tua, and I do, and I do. And I do. I do. I do.

There's nothing about your personal preferences, right? I do, but how many times does the writing need to be on the wall about how Stephen Ross loves his Michigan man? How many times do we got to go through this? It's now cost him two draft picks and a million and a half dollars because he couldn't contain himself. So if he's willing to put all this on the line, because that's the one thing too about that, he's going to retire, then he's going to show up in Miami as an owner who just decided, you know what, I think I can still play.

Yeah, I think I still got it. And then Sean Payton's like, yeah, I'm done here in New Orleans. My run's over here. I don't know what's going on here.

Biscuits for everybody. Like I'm Ted Lasso and you know what, I kind of want to coach the Miami Dolphins with Tom Brady. Like how, at what point did Miami think they would let the cat out of the bag and cover their tampering tracks, right? I mean, at what point, like all of this stuff is now suddenly fully baked out of the blue? Really? Huh?

I have a question. Real quick though, real quick though, it's just this, this is it, two of this is it. This is his, this is his shot because the owner clearly is not sold. Now good for him is he's got, he says the support of his, his locker room and now the rest of the media is all in because we didn't see some sort of sliced up video purporting to be Tua's great arm in connection with Tyreek Hill on a fluttering ball that Hill had to wait for. We saw, as you saw earlier this week, we saw over the weekend, a dime, 50 some odd yard errors into the hands of Tyreek Hill. So Tua, yes, was asked about that today because he thought it, the, the previous version of it was money, right?

Here we go. Yeah. Uh, I think cause people don't think I can throw, throw the ball far. So I, I, I, I would say that's the fascination like, wow, he can throw the ball.

It's kind of hard, hard, hard to be in the NFL if you can't throw the ball. Right? Come on, let's get more salty. He's still too nice too. You're still too nice. You want him to curse?

No. He's like, yeah, I could throw it like that. You don't think I could throw it like that? Like put it right in the lap of somebody. And if you don't think I could throw it like that, wait till week one.

Whenever they dial up that play, I'll hit it. Come on. I need more chest. I need more salt. It's still too sweet. And I know that's his nature and that's who he is and he's only going to be himself.

I know, but I need more salt. I really like the clap backs of him and Kyler lately. Kyler like you think I could have gotten this far in life if I had no work ethic to it. Like if you can't throw the football, can't be in the NFL as a quarterback.

Like, hello. And that said, the independent study clause somehow appeared and Brady got tampered with. Those things happen for a reason.

All right. About the tampering, do you think Dolphins fans should be upset that their owner got caught cheating, quote unquote, or should they be excited that he's trying to do whatever it takes to win and get the best players there? I don't think they should be upset.

That's a good question. I don't think they should be upset. They should be like, yeah, he's trying to win.

He's going to get Tom Brady and Sean Payton. Or that he's trying to take big swings for the fans. Yeah. They should be excited, right?

So had had this been a guy who we talk about incessantly every single day, would you look at it differently? If this had been Jerry Jones that did it, how do you think would this story be different or would it be like, oh, of course it would be. Are you kidding me? Everything's bigger when it involves the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones. Of course.

Absolutely. Well, certainly because certainly the Hall of Fame owner did this settled down just a little bit. But because it's Miami, they have one playoff win in twenty five, twenty years, whatever. So do we. Apparently we all stink and we haven't won anything. So I don't know. I feel.

Do you? Miami's been the one Super Bowl in fifty years. Hey, man, he swung for the fence. Unfortunately, his fence swing got put into a high profile lawsuit that could not be swept under any rug. All because Bill Belichick texted the wrong Brian, allegedly speaking of Bill. Bill was asked about Tom Brady being tampered with while he was with the Patriots, which is one of the most mind blowing aspects of yesterday, I thought, like, OK, we'll hear about the stuff that's been in right in the news with Florio and Ben Volan talking about just the last. Go round for Brady in Tampa since December, then we find out it's been since twenty nineteen when he was in New England.

So Bill was asked about that. And that is today's Bill Belichick press conference moment. Today's Bill Belichick press conference moment.

I would prefer to win. Bill, I wanted to ask you, the dolphins, yeah, I'm really worried about that. I'm just trying to get training camp here. Did you have any idea the dolphins are tampering with your starting quarterback that season? Yeah.

Focused on training camp here. Well, in the past Bill, everybody in New England, I know it's a tough job. I know it's a tough job.

I know being on the beat is not easy. You cannot ask this man yes or no questions. Certainly when you're asking him about potentially explosive, controversial items like this one, were you aware Brady was being tampered with? Could you imagine if he answers that question, yes, I mean, what where does that put this on the grand scheme of things?

What's the follow up? You're just like, well, what do you think? But also tampering in and of itself. Kind of is done below the radar where the coach doesn't know. Otherwise it's kind of tampering.

It's kind of like permission. But you could say he did know and that's got this whole process going. If that was the case, then why, why did it have to come out and floor as his lawsuit? It makes no sense to ask him that question to begin with. And what do you think his answer is going to be? His answer would probably want to be like, yeah, every day I watched Brady take phone calls from Steven Ross right in the locker room. Oh, yeah, all those microphones that you think that the Steelers think are in the locker room, they exist. And I picked it up on Brady's phone because I listened in on it because I listened in on the people in locker rooms. Honestly, where does that question, where do you think that's going to go?

Yes or no? Did you know he was being tampered with? Lastly... But it's just a training camp. He's moved on to training camp. Lastly, remember when Brady was on the shop last year and was talking about the mother bleeper? We know who it is. Who is it? It was Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Because he was the Dolphins' quarterback in 2019 and 2020. Hold on. Ooh. All right, let's put this together. You're sleuthing very well right now. You're like frigging Inspector Gadget.

All right, let's walk through this here. He was leaving, and he's like, you're sticking with that mother bleeper. Right, 2019. And so was it Flores saying we're sticking with Ryan Fitzpatrick?

In 2020. Because then they drafted... But they weren't sticking with him. Was he?

Did he just get there? No, Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Miami in 2019. So after that season, they would have stuck with Ryan Fitzpatrick after they drafted Tua. You're sticking with that... Nice job, Mike. Ah.

Yeah. So remember... 2019... Remember Tua and Fitzpatrick split in 2020. Yeah, he started 13 games in 2019.

They went five and eight. And then... In 2,500 yards passing. I mean, he did 20 touchdowns. And then in 2020... And 13 interceptions, which is, you know, that's what Ryan Fitzpatrick does.

And then they went back and forth. Flores. And Tua. Yeah. In 2020. As opposed to bringing Brady in and drafting... And then Brady went to Tampa instead and won the Super Bowl. And then they wouldn't have drafted Tua at all, one would think. Right. If Brady was there in 2020.

Correct. So was the MF'er Ryan Fitzpatrick? Because we thought all along it was Ryan Tannehill. Totally different Ryan. Well, I thought it was Drew Brees.

And I thought that was absurd on his face from the beginning. And now, though, if you think that Brady wanted to play with Sean Payton, he would have been willing to go to New Orleans in 2020. No, I don't think...

I don't... I'm not buying that. But Brees chose to come back.

I'm not giving it. I think that's true. Yeah, but you can't call Brees that MF'er.

I mean, he's a first bout Hall of Famer. No, I know. I'm just saying. Dude. He's not as good as Tom Brady. Dude.

Yes. Drew Brees, when it's his time, will get off the pickleball court and spend... I'm not disagreeing with you, but he's not as good as Tom Brady. Brady's not referring to Brees. No, no, no. He's referring to Ryan Fitzpatrick.

And if Fitzpatrick's resume would lend itself to him being referred to as such derisively by the GOAT... You're sticking with that ****, are you serious? That... Right? I think we've found the pieces of the puzzle, Christopher. Right. That's gotta be it. Gotta be it.

He's being tampered with in 2019, and his first... and plans are being hatched. Under the radar. Oh, Chris. Look at this. Putting pieces together, spotting dimes, just like George Costanza.

Connecting. I mean, Crockett in tubs, solving it. It's amazing. Wow.

That might be the guy. Well, I guess that's first up on Amazon's first broadcast, right? Miami reference.

That'll be up on Amazon's first broadcast. Poll question, Chris. Was it Taneyhill? Was it Fitzpatrick? Chris at Thompson's first question to Ryan Fitzpatrick, are you the MFR? Who was it? Who's the motherf***er? Dicey? Dicey? Not to tell the new NFL partner how to do their business? Out of the gate, though.

Headlines, if you want them. What if he doesn't even realize he was the MOFO? He would not know. Would he?

He would not know. Well, he would know if they were going after Brady and Flores is like, you're my guy. But we also drafted Tua. And we just drafted Tua. We're not bringing in Brady just to have Tua around. We're not turning Tua into Jimmy G. You know? It worked out for Tom, didn't it? Because Tom wound up going to a spot where, hold on a minute, Chex Notes won the Super Bowl. Yeah, he's fine. At home.

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Maybe. Tom Brady is 45 years ago, 45 years old today. And let's not forget, Tom Brady, when he was in his late thirties, was talking about playing till he was 45 and everybody laughed, didn't they? Everybody laughed. Either way, they laughed and scoffed, saying good luck, Father Time is undefeated. Or there's somebody like Max Kellerman who said he was about to become a bum.

A bum in short order. Yeah, well, follow the cliff. We could talk about the obvious, which is we'll never see anything like this again. OK, it's interesting we say this on the passing of Vince Scully day after that and a couple days after Bill Russell, we'll never see anything like that again.

And you're like, oh, well, you know what? We may. We'll never see anything like this again in the NFL. Well, all due respect to Aaron Rodgers, because he's got to win Super Bowls. After being 40 years old. You mean age wise or what? With his accomplishments.

Here we go here. This tells the story in his 40s, Tom Brady has twenty two thousand nine hundred thirty eight passing yards in his 40s. That's more than the entire careers of, let's say, Hall of Famers, because they are. Roger Staubach, Sammy Baugh, Roger Staubach had twenty two thousand seven hundred passing yards his entire career. Brady surpassed that since he's turned 40. More than Vic, Neil O'Donnell and Jim McMahon.

Just want to name some other notables in their entire careers. Brady has more passing yards since turning 40. Let's talk touchdowns.

Let's get some in the end zone, right? Since turning 40, Tom Brady has one hundred sixty eight passing touchdowns, more than the entire careers of Troy Aikman, who had one hundred sixty five. Jim Plunkett, who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, one hundred sixty four. Bart Starr, one hundred fifty two.

You just taken 40 year old Tom Brady. That's it. Four seasons, Chris? Forty, forty one, five, two, three and four. Five seasons. Five seasons.

This will be your sixth. That's ridiculous. That's what I mean.

We'll never see it again. We'll see guys playing to their 40s. I mean, Rogers is about to do it. And I think Aaron Rodgers does have the ability to play for these forty five if that's what he so chooses. Yeah, I think in terms of and it's entirely possible.

We'll see numbers similar to this. But he's got a voice. He's got a hoist. Yeah. All right. Got a hoist. Brady's a first bout all fam kid.

Got a hoist and and wait for it. You got to switch teams and do it in the first year of your your team switch. OK. You're right. You're right then.

I mean, I guess you also got to be tampered with by somebody in a division can be suspended. This is his final year. The Wilfs, the Wilfs got to reach out to him. He's done after. Right. He's got this is it, you know what I mean?

Because the Caskys, the Caskys got to get all Bears subterfuge. Hold on. I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this.

It's difficult to say. Eber flus subterfuge. Hold on.

You did it. You know what it's called? It's called subterflux. Subterflux. He wins and he's done. Right. Eber fluge.

Eber fluge. He's done. Why would he quit?

He's still rich. If he wins, he's done right. He's got to. You've got to walk off with the win.

You don't want to take the chance. He had arguably his best season ever last year. But he didn't. Oh, yeah. I think I have that statistic.

The NFL Network research, a three page packet of all of his stats. I mean, come on. Yeah.

But why take the chance you might lose? There are. Hold on a minute. Let me get it right. Six, 12, 13 NFL head coaches younger than Tom Brady. That's crazy. That's a great stat. Oh, yeah.

That's a great stat. Two current head coaches were quarterbacks drafted by the Patriots while Brady was on the team. Yeah. Cliff Kingsbury and Kevin O'Connell. Great. Correct. 104 active players. We could go on and on, but we are out of time. Happy birthday to Tom Brady.

And also somebody who's also got a lot of rings. Hey. My life.

My life. Happy birthday, Suze. Happy birthday, Suze.

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