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August 4, 2022 3:31 pm

Iowa Hawkeyes HC Kirk Ferentz tells Rich his reaction to USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten in 2024, if the rise of NIL deals is impacting his program, and why he’s eternally grateful for the career boost he once got from Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick.

Actor Theo Rossi joins Rich in-studio to discuss his new ‘Emily the Criminal’ movie with Aubrey Plaza, the two bond over their common Staten Island roots, reveals his surprising football past that included a state championship in high school, talks about his new podcast and the upcoming coming-of-age movie he’ll be directing, and reveals why ‘Sons of Anarchy’ still resonates with fans.

Rich and the guys react to Bill Belichick’s latest press conference and speculate on what the Patriots Head Coach would name his fantasy football team if he had one.

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This is such a masterpiece. It's the radio call of Sandy Koufax's perfect game. Bob Costas here on the Rich Eisen Show. Earlier on the show, voice of Thursday Night Football, Al Michaels. Coming up, Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz, actor Theo Rossi, NFL Network insider Tom Pellicero, host of USC Fight Passes the Nosebleeds, Randy and Jason Sklar. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number two of the Rich Eisen Show is Amir. We are all just still taking in Al Michaels' appearance in the first hour of this program, talking about the passing of Vin Scully. If you missed it, go to our YouTube page, slash Rich Eisen Show for what you may have missed.

Right here on Peacock and Sirius XM Channel 85, which is NBC Sports Audio, where we follow the Dan Patrick show every single day. We also have some in-studio guests coming up on this program. We've got Theo Rossi, the actor from the hit show Sons of Anarchy. Everybody might remember him as Juice on that program.

Also from Luke Cage. And also from my hometown of Staten Island, New York. Just saw him back in the green room, told him I'm from Staten Island. I think I shocked him. He didn't seem like he believed you. I think I shocked him.

I guess he didn't think I drove an IROC in high school, like most of my compatriots. It's Susan Wagner. No. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I took my driver's test in a Pontiac LE.

Oh. Because I couldn't use the Blue Bomber Pontiac Safari station wagon. I couldn't parallel park that forever in my life. Wow, this thing is huge. Like a Le Mans? No, an LE.

It was a very small sedan. Oh, okay. At any rate, Theo Rossi will be joining us here on the program in studio. And also we've got the Sklar brothers in studio in hour number three.

And my compadre from the NFL media group, Tom Pelissero, will be joining us from the training camp road to tell us what's going on. Rich, check in the weather in Canton right now. Bring a raincoat.

What do you mean? Looks like it's going to rain all weekend. Even for the induction ceremony? It's going to be warm, but we're looking at rain.

For the induction ceremony? It looks like it. No, don't say it looks like it. You've got to tell me. Well, I'm just telling you, I'm looking at the forecast and I see the rain.

Let me see right here. We've got scattered thunderstorms Friday. We've got AM thunderstorms.

It could be Midwest. That means they blow through in two seconds flat. We've got a 50% chance for the whole day. I'm just saying. It's a coin flip, huh? Yeah.

You know what's not a coin flip? Me mentioning the Michigan-Ohio State score tomorrow night from the podium. Hey, Rich, also... At the jacket dinner? I don't know if you know this, like right before we came back from our last break, I got a phone call.

Yes? It was your friend Ashton. He was telling me, because, you know, Kirk Francis coming up, he's a former Iowa Hawkeye himself.

I do know that. He wanted me to let Kirk know that he was trash talking Lincoln Riley at a Kenny Chesney concert at SoFi. Who was? Ashton was.

Kenny Chesney was at SoFi, I think, last week. And he was like, let Kirk know I already started it. He goes, I already trash talked Lincoln Riley.

OK. You know, something about planting corn in the end zone. And, you know, he wanted me just to let Kirk know that the trash talk. I was like, bro, I'm on air. I have to go. Wow. You didn't hear me because I have my button now. Oh, see.

Well done. You hear me now. But your friend and ours, may I call him our friend? That's why I said your friend. Ashton.

I said he was your friend, yeah. It just points out, again, as I mentioned, when you see... When Los Angeles became a Big Ten city, that, hey, Los Angeles college football fans who have been showing up as empty seats quite a bit at the Rose Bowl and occasionally, occasionally, heaven forbid, at the Coliseum, there's a lot of Big Teners in this town. And you know who's going to fill the seats?

Them. Big Ten fans like him, and Wisconsin fans, and Michigan Staters, and Northwestern Wildcats, and Wisconsin Badger fans, and Michigan Wolverines, and Buckeye fans, there are a ton of Big Ten football fans in this town that are going to turn a lot of home games into road games, and road games for them into some home games. Please believe it. October 1st is going to be...

I'm going to be nervous as a cat. Why is that? Because Michigan is the first game for Iowa football to open up their Big Ten schedule at home at Kinnick Stadium. And that is where a lot of Michigan football seasons have gone to die, that stadium. They still have the pink visitor's locker room? I mean, I don't know. There's a pink...

I didn't know that. Was he calling in? He's calling us an update, so practice is running a little late, and they're going to try to get to us soon. Okay.

Well, we've got Theo Rossi coming up. I understand. Okay.

All right. We'll keep these trains running on time as we possibly can. So yeah, I'll be nervous. A lot of Big Ten seasons go to die at Kinnick Stadium, a lot of them. And it's also a rematch of the Big Ten championship game that Michigan won after beating Ohio State, which is something I'll talk about tomorrow night in Canton, Ohio, when I'm hosting the jacket dinner in front of thousands of Buckeyes. And it's going to be glorious, and I'm going to need some assistance from Jonathan Ogden to protect me from Orlando Pace.

Oh, I will call out Chris Carter by name. Oh. Do I spell out O-H-N-O? I was going to say... O-H-N-O. Oh, God. That's the sort of stuff...

I think when you do Chris Carter, ask him to stand up and then be like, sit down, mama, Michigan just scored again. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? That might be... Or you could have him spell out the I or the O. That might cross a line. That might cross a line. Yeah, you would get thrown out. You might have him spell out the I or the O.

Because don't forget, Chris Carter has been a cherished member of Run Rich Run over the last couple years. I understand. I understand. So there's a line. I don't want to cross it. I want to creep right on to it. I want to give that line a bird's eye look and then not cross it. Just promise me you won't be walking through the home goods parking lot at night by yourself after this.

Because... You love that story, man. Not sure if you're aware? They sell home goods there. I just saw the home goods sign. I'm like, I don't know if you're aware.

They sell home goods there. That was one of the funniest things of all time. Joining me now here on the Mercedes-Benz Vans phone line, getting set for his 24th year as head coach of Iowa Hawkeye football, is the man who always has my heart in my throat whenever my Wolverines take on his stout Iowa Hawkeye team. Head coach Kirk Ferentz here on the Rich Eisen Show. How are you doing, coach? Great. I'm great. Good to be with you.

And I got to tell you, my daughter went to Michigan. Hey! Okay. So what... Okay. Mary Sue Coleman was our president when I came here. Okay. And then she was up there when Kelly went to school and I told Mary Sue, it was great that Kelly had a fallback school to go to.

She couldn't get into Iowa, so at least she had a place where she could go get a college education. It was great. Understood. Understood. So when, let's say you've got a play dialed up that you know is going to work against the Michigan offense or defense, why don't you next time just say, you know, let's not run that. I don't want to do that to my daughter.

I don't want to make her upset. Right? Can you do that? The ones we ran in December weren't so successful, so we're looking for a few. I'd like to... I appreciate you saying that. So, by the way, greetings from Big Ten Country here in Los Angeles, Coach. Greetings from... Yeah, whoever thought we'd be saying that.

I know, right? What do you think of the expansion into the West Coast Pacific time zone, UCLA and USC, Coach Ferentz? You know, quite honestly, two takeaways for me were, first of all, I was amazed at just the secrecy. You know, I don't know how big the circle was, there had to be more than two people involved.

And the fact that they kept it so quiet, whoever was involved, I thought that was really impressive. And then my second thought, I'm really glad I'm not one of the Olympic sport coaches at either of those two schools, because, man, they're going to have some tough road trips. It's hard to imagine that the planet of Iowa and Nebraska would feel like a home game if you're a coach on the West Coast, but that's kind of what they're looking at right now. So do you like this expansion era, Coach? Are you like saying this is progress, or are you saying, you know, I'm a little bit more old school, I kind of liked it the way things have been?

Coach, what do you think? Well, as my age would indicate, I am a little bit old school, but I've really, you know, you just, you're part of this, and I spent a couple of years in the NFL, and each and every year was a new year and a different year. And certainly the last 20, 23, 24 years, even longer than that, college football, are really interesting. When I came back, my first head coaching job was at University of Maine, early 90s, and Kevin White, who left Maine, went to L.A. and Arizona State, Notre Dame, and just retired at Duke. I remember Kevin talking about the impact of TV sets and realigning of conferences and all that. I had no idea what he was talking about, zero.

And the things that he was, you know, he was privy to, I guess, back, you know, 30 years ago. They've kind of come to fruition and, you know, starting at Penn State, joining the Big Ten, and then, you know, you go from there. So times are very different, and then I think, you know, the last, if anything, the last five, ten years have taught us is, when it comes to college geography and tradition, really, are secondary to TV opportunities, and I think when the Big Ten network started, to me, that was really the beginning of a major shift in terms of college football. Yeah, and normally the goal is to play UCLA in the Rose Bowl, as the Rose Bowl, now it's a Big Ten conference game. I can't kind of wrap my head around that just yet, but it's coming, and there is also another accelerant in this, as you had mentioned television contracts, Coach Kirk Ferentz, but there's also the NIL deals that are changing the landscape of college football. What is your approach to the name, image, and likeness deals that are out there now, Coach?

First of all, I really didn't pay attention to it the first X amount of months, really kind of zeroing in on February, after we got done with recruiting, and you know, a couple of things. I think there's probably a fair amount of exaggeration about some of the things that are going on in terms of, you know, just how significant or how fine the print is, and some of those contracts. I think that's going to be interesting over time. One thing we haven't experienced yet is, you know, guys getting big contracts in college and then maybe not producing at the level that the people paying those contracts expect. We've seen that happen in pro baseball, or pro, I guess pro baseball is really the first sport with really true free agency, at least that I can remember when I was a kid. So that's going to be something, and the other part thing, I think it's really kind of jumped out at me, in terms of you think about all the guys that play college football, how many are really benefiting all that much. I think, you know, anything that the guys can get is great, but as far as these ones that you hear about, it's a really small percentage of the guys that truly play the game.

So you know, only time will tell how it's really going to impact us, but it's certainly given us one thing more to navigate. On a humorous note, you know, our guys are now getting exposed to the world of taxes, something that they really, I don't think, understood, and we want to make sure they do understand so they don't get surprised there. So that's kind of interesting, but the other part, which is true for each and every one of us, and I tell our guys all the time, all of us only have so much time, so much energy, so you just got to be really careful about where you spend it and where you dedicate it towards. Have you, Kirk Ferentz, identified a player that you would like on Iowa Hawkeye football, and in your program, that's turned to you and said, I would do that if you matched a certain number I'm getting on an NIL deal as an inducement. Has that happened to you?

It's really interesting. I think this past Sunday was the first time I've had a recruit bring it up. I'm not saying that, you know, they haven't maybe talked to our assistant, so I imagine that's a possibility, but you know, we haven't really experienced that, and our players in our program, you know, Tyler Lindenbaum is probably a best-known guy last year, almost inadvertently raised $36,000, and he gave it to the Children's Hospital just to give an indication. We're lucky, the guys we get to work with, and I would have had no problem with him putting that in his pocket, but you know, no, it really hasn't been a big factor yet.

I'm sure it's going to become more of one, and you know, if we could write the script, our approach I think would be to, I'd prefer to see players that are actually in college who have done something, see them get rewards in proportion to what they've accomplished, and you know, it'd be nice if there's an academic component to it that's probably, you know, it's probably not the real world, but you know, I just, I think all of us function better when we're, you know, production's rewarded as opposed to potential or projection. So you're saying a recruit had the temerity of saying to you, Kirk Ferentz, in your 24 of Iowa football, I'd love to play for you if you matched another deal? Like they actually said that to your face that happened? He was talking about, you know, just the world of NIL, and if he understood his background, you'd understand it, and I think he would, at least I felt like I did, and it was totally innocent, but no, he was not trying to cut a deal. I'm sure that day's coming, but haven't had that experience yet. Kirk Ferentz here on the Rich Eisen Show.

Quarterback competition for you over the next couple weeks for your opener? Is that what you got going? I think yes and no. I think that probably gets played a little bit more publicly, or you know, it's a bigger deal publicly. The way I, what I said in Indianapolis a week ago, week plus ago, was that I feel really fortunate that we've had two guys, our team, you know, we won games with, and Spencer got injured last year, had to come out, and Alex Padilla stepped in and did a great job, and it led us to a couple victories, and you know, there are teams in the country, teams in our conference that couldn't say that last year. You know, they lost their guy, and that's part of football, you know, players get hurt, and they, you know, they couldn't overcome that. So I'm really proud of our team for overcoming that, and then obviously Alex did a really good job, and I think both Alex Padilla and Spencer Petrus had better players than they were a year ago. That's our expectation for all of our players, especially our good guys, and you know, so I think we've got a healthy, healthy situation, and we're gonna let everybody compete in camp every position, and we'll see where it all goes. So I just have a question, you know, and this is definitely for me, Coach Ferentz, with Michigan coming on October 1st, is the visitors locker room still painted a lighter shade of pink in Iowa? It still is, yeah, and the tradition of Coach Rye, we are definitely honoring that one and continuing that. Okay, and did you put TVs and a very nice comfortable couch in there for Michigan and the other visitors? Is it nice and homey, Coach? You know, ironically, it's probably the nicest locker room in the Big Ten. I can talk from experience, I think I've been in every home locker room outside of our two newcomers, but it's, you know, a lot of talk about the pink, but it's really a very spacious, very nice locker room, and you know, I don't think we've gotten many complaints about that part of it. Okay, the accommodations are, I'm checking all these boxes, all right, so before I let you go, you were in Patriots camp, right, just last week? Your son plays for Belichick, what is that like, having your son build play for a guy that you've known forever and a day, Coach?

It's, you know, and it certainly wasn't anything I ever thought would happen or hoped, obviously hope good things happen all the time, but you know, it's just great. And his, you know, I hate to talk about my kids, but his career is actually pretty amazing. He played here in 12, that was his last year, and couldn't get any traction in the NFL, never really put shoulder pads on once for a full calendar year. Bill O'Brien gave him a chance to try to make the team in Houston, Bill's first year down there, and so James made the practice squad and ended up gaining traction in Denver, unfortunately Gary Kubiak couldn't, you know, couldn't continue coaching, the new coach came in, took one look at James, James isn't the biggest guy in the world, and that was the end of his career in Denver, but anyway, he's fortunately been able to gain a little traction in New England, so yeah, it was a thrill just to be at practice period, and then also to see James on the field is pretty cool. Can you share just a little bit, whatever you're willing, about what talk and ball with Bill Belichick is like between Kirk Ferentz and Bill Belichick?

A little line on the wall for me? I don't wonder an awful lot, but I always do wonder, I wonder every now and then what my life would have been if, you know, Coach Belichick hadn't called me back in 1993, and I think the truth of the matter is they had like eight or nine line coaches apply for the job, it just didn't work out, so they truly got to the bottom of the barrel, I ended up in Cleveland, so I'm just so appreciative of those three years to have a chance to work with Coach Belichick, and my oldest boy's worked with him, worked with him for five years for him, for five years, and now to have another son be up there, I just feel very, very appreciative, and you know, he's obviously an outstanding coach, but he's just a tremendous person on top of it, and I'm really appreciative of that part of it. Do you talk ball with him, and schemes and things like that, or do you do it? Yeah, a little bit of schemes, but probably more just, you know, people and, you know, trends in the game, those types of things, just maybe a little bigger picture that way, but you know, pretty much anything he says, I know that it's worthless, and I can tell you that for my three years in Cleveland. Coach Ferentz, appreciate the time, let's chat down the line, October 1st, think of me and your daughter, okay?

Just a little bit, you know, when you're taking on the Wolverines, please do that for me, okay? She finished up here and got a couple graduate degrees, so we got her back on track. Back on track? Back on track. All right, I'll send everybody here in Big Ten Country in Los Angeles your regards.

I appreciate it, great to talk to you Rich. Always, thank you, that's Coach Kirk Ferentz, you're 24 at Iowa on the Rich Eisen Show, okay? I mean, I didn't tell him Ashton asked to Lincoln Riley, but... We were pressed for time.

We were pressed for time. But it's out there. There's still a lighter shade of pink.

I don't know, I've heard people go in that locker room, spacious is not the word that I hear about that visitor's locker room, Chris. Yeah, I'm actually, someone just sent me a tweet, apparently Harbaugh has his staff wrap every engine blue, and if Michigan loses, they rip it to shreds and leave it there for Iowa to clean up. Oh really? Oh, that's... Really? You know what, that sort of behavior is going to give me pause tomorrow night, no it won't. Let's take a break.

Theo Rossi, the actor from some hit shows like Sons of Anarchy and Luke Cage, is in a new movie called Emily the Criminal, and my Staten Island compadre will join me in studio next. Does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day? Dove Men PlusCare Dry Spray goes on instantly dry for a cleaner feel and offers 48 hours sweat and odor protection. Let me repeat that, 48 hours of sweat and odor protection. Use it and don't even think about it. Also, Dove Men Dry Spray contains Dove's unique one-quarter moisturizing cream that helps protect your skin.

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So let's jump into this here. You play the role of a guy who is stealing credit card information and having people buying stuff with them. That's basically what a dummy shopper is?

He provides these credit cards and these numbers and people come and do stuff. Okay. Yeah. And that's what this film is about, where Aubrey Plaza goes down this hole, figuring out a life of crime?

Here's a bigger picture. She's saddled with student debt, overwhelmed, and you know, when you push people to a certain limit, they have to find other ways as we do. And she just happens to stumble upon Yusef and my cousin and he potentially goes down the wrong path. But when faced with this adversity, we both find out who we truly are. Maybe Yusef isn't who we think. Maybe Emily isn't who we think. The yin and yang of it all. The yin and yang of it all.

And Emily the criminal again is in the theater near you on Friday, August the 12th. And so what did you enjoy about playing this role or learning about this world? Well, my mom was really happy because you know, she's Lebanese and Syrian, so I finally got to, you know, play with I am, which was very exciting for her. Yes. And I got to, you know, call some family members and really dive deep back into that because Yusef had just come here years before. I had a little knowledge of credit card fraud. So it was nice being on the business end, the wrong end of it is what you're saying, because I've I've been in that position where all of a sudden I've been in both sides of it. Okay.

I hope the statute of limitations. Okay. Very good. It's been a long, very, very, very good feel. Okay.

I went to a place called Albany and there was a little SUNY, a little SUNY Albany University of New York at Albany. It's fine. It's great games. Okay. Very good. It was a, it was a, it was a crazy time. Theo Rossi here on the Rich Johnson Show.

Let's just jump right into it. You probably had no idea I'm from Staten Island, New York, cause I don't look like a guy from Staten Island. No. And, and the funny thing is, yes, sir.

Now that you say it, you look exactly like a guy. What do you, a bite of, what do you mean? The whole persona just came out, entered the 36 chambers. Like I feel like I just went into the Wu Tang right now. Like I'm in the, from the North shore. I'm actually from, I'm actually from the Willowbrook section of Staten Island in the heart of the island itself.

It's a movie I'm developing right now. Cropsy killer and everything, well, oh my God, Cropsy, have you ever heard of Cropsy? Can we talk him in?

Tell him, tell him who Cropsy is. He's from, he's from Maine, mostly. You're mostly New England. Military. Yeah. Right. And, but Mike, what, what, what exit are you from? What exit are you from? 145 on the GSB on the Garden State Parkway. Yes indeed. I know the Garden State.

Very well. Well, I mean, I was the DJ on Staten Island. Exit 13 on the Turnpike from me. There you go. I was a Gothel's bridge guy. You were? I was a Gothel's bridge guy. Oh yeah.

Great roller rink. It's changed. Has it really? Everything's changed in New York. It's a different, I went back when I was doing Luke Cage, I was living on Staten Island for four years. You lived on Staten Island to shoot Luke Cage? Yes. And I realized it was freezing and I had to get out.

Okay. And now we live on a ranch in Austin. It's a whole different life. My God, it's a whole different life.

It's a whole different life. So what part of Staten Island are you from? So I'm from Oakwood. I know where that is. Yeah.

Okay. Went to Farrell. You were on senior Farrell.

When senior Farrell played football. I'm Susan E. Wagner High School. That was where I was going to be from there.

It was one or the other. I went to PS 23. I was either going to go to Wagner or Farrell and I went to Farrell because football was my entire life. All my other buddies went to Wagner. We played each other.

Quite a bit. Yeah. Beat them every year that I was there. And you're a champion. It is what it is. We won the 91 state championships.

I'm not going to age myself. What did you play there? I played outside linebacker. Started as a fullback, then we went to the run and shoot, and then I went to outside linebacker. It was a lot bigger. And I played a strong safety in my senior year. Yeah.

Junior and senior. I mean, you don't strike me as a fullback. I was about 35 pounds heavier.

Maybe 40. Okay. It was a different time. Things were different. Are you talking about a certain era where...

It was a different time. Did you drink a lot of juice back in the day? Yeah, I drank a lot of juice. I played juice and things were different. And I still have heartburn. Juice, Ortiz.

Somebody put the juice in Ortiz well before becoming an actor. It was a different time. Okay. Understood? Yeah.

All right, Theo. And then I went to SUNY Albany to play. And then I realized that after only losing, I think I lost two high school games, that Albany lost a lot more. I didn't know you had a SUNY Albany as a football team. I was going to go to Canisius to play or Buffalo, but it went to Albany. Well Buffalo, Khalil, Matt played in Buffalo, man. I mean, so... Buffalo was fantastic. I know.

But it was a little colder. Ah. And I chose Albany because all my guys from Wagner and all the guys from Faro, we all went together.

Yeah, we went to SUNY Albany. Yes. Okay. To play. Right. And then we did it.

Two stayed and played. Well, I went to PS 54, IS 72, Susan Wagner High School. My producing partner and best friend went to 72. Who was that? Nick Carmona.

Nick Carmona. Yeah, we call him Mona. Mona owes me $5. Yeah, we call him Mona. I bet you Mona owes you a lot more than that.

He owes a lot of people, man. This is great. This is amazing. And then I went to the University of Michigan and on graduation day, I got a call from the boss who was my... My boss from my two previous summer internships at the Staten Island Advance. Wow. Where I was a staff writer for three years and driving on Father Capodano Boulevard back in the day, following an ambulance because I thought that might be a story. It was. I ran through three red lights and I thought I pulled over on Father Capodano Boulevard and I said, I can't do this anymore. Can't ambulance chase on Father Capodano.

You can't do that. Well, yes, that's true. I never made Staten Island Advance All-Star. So that's probably your fault because that was a big deal. It was, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you were probably on the voting committee. No, I actually... It did make New York State All-Stars. You didn't want to speak to me because I was the one answering the phones at 11 at night taking the obituary from all the funeral homes.

Nobody wanted to talk to me. Yeah. They're still going showing.

I know they are. Yeah. My step-grandfather was a pouch terminal. He coached pouch terminal. If you remember, there were men's league baseball.

Again, sports were different in the 80s, 90s in Staten Island. Big deal. Yeah.

Right. I played in Miller Field all the time. I played soccer and Staten Island boys league football. So what's Cropsey? Tell him what Cropsey is again because Cropsey used to scare the crap out of me.

Yeah. So in the 80s, Cropsey was basically terrorizing Staten Island. There was Willowbrook, the institution that Geraldo busted. Geraldo Rivera. Jerry Rivers, I believe at the time was the one who busted it to be very honest with you.

But okay, go for it. Yeah. He busted it wide open. It was this horrific scene. And then Cropsey... Five blocks from where I grew up in Willowbrook, by the way. And we used to go hang out in there in the abandoned Willowbrook and play Sanitarium from Metallica. Yeah.

Never would I ever do that. I was... No, but I knew people... The sickies were in there. There was all the groups. What the hell were you doing, Theo Ross?

I don't know. I was getting ready for Sons of Anarchy. That's what you were doing.

I was a young kid who was fearless, building forts in the woods. Did Cropsey exist? Did he really exist? Well, they got someone I don't know. Andre Rand. Yeah.

That's who they got. And he used to work at Willowbrook as a janitor at Willowbrook. We would tell stories around campfires. So he was totally, fully harassed and was this candy man of Staten Island for a long time. So you're doing a documentary?

No. I'm obsessed with and I miss... My favorite movies are Goonies, Stand By Me, Flight of the Navigator, Sandlot. All those kind of films.

And I feel those have really been missed. So 12 years old is a very important age. It's kind of right between when you're discovering things and also when you're still a child.

In my case, it was right when my mother came in and said, it's time to stop playing with toys. And it broke my heart. I was like, what?

But yet I was into figuring out who I was. So it's about these five 12 year olds on Halloween night in 1987 because of the looming Cropsey. They say that Halloween's canceled and they want to go out egging and bombing and being kids and doing whatever. And they want to go rescue their friends who had moved out of the bad area where they are to go to Staten Island Academy. Yes.

And they... Where I took my driver's test. Me too. Yes.

And with the looming Cropsey stuff out there and it's called The Wolf Kings and it's about these five kids and it's basically an overnight coming of age adventure thing. Take my money right now. Yeah, right. You're in, right? We're going to direct it. I'm excited.

Well, I mean, congratulations on that because you had everybody at Hello Here on Goonies right at Sandlot. Which I fully admit I had never seen until the last three years of my entire life. Karen Allen. I had her in my first movie I produced. She's amazing in it.

And Squints. I'm still friends with all those guys. I talked to them all the time.

Karen Allen. I just showed Raiders of the Lost Ark to my oldest son for the first time. Which is weird because you're in that movie. No, I'm not. I just have. You're not in it?

No. Now you're in it. Theo, I went to Italy on a vacation with my wife recently and I bought this rakish hat and I wore it and I'm wearing it now and I have it here. It's a Borsalino hat.

It's very expensive and rakish. But you wear it on the show. You don't wear it outside the show. Outside the show.

But I'm wearing it now because I have it here because these guys have been poking me. He was digging in Cairo for the Ark. Stop. I was not. In the Well of Souls. I was not in the Well of Souls. There I am.

I was in Italy. Right there. There's the shot.

Theo, look at that. Oh wow. Jurassic Park. Yeah. You're like the guy who owns Jurassic Park.

If he's drinking a mango smoothie by the Tyrrhenian Sea, yes. That's correct. Yeah. That's Jurassic Park.

It's great for pictures and it's great in here. No, Staten Island? No way not. Don't wear that hood. Don't wear a Staten Island card with that hat. You can't cross the bridge. Oh, I haven't been on The Rock in a long, long time.

Good idea. So let's talk about a couple other things here. Your Theory podcast.

You and Kim Coats drop weekly podcasts. What a mess. Yeah. It's a mess. Okay. Why is it a mess for people who may not know? So let me tell you.

What you do is amazing. A couple of years back, someone had said to me, hey, you should do a podcast and we're going to get all these people and you should talk to them. And I had all these great people on and by the third show I said, I have no interest in talking to people. I had, they just, it was like canned answers and no one was like being themselves.

And I said, this is ridiculous. So I'm just gonna have my friends on. So I had Kim on and when Kim was on, cause this is still one of my closest friends, I realized we both hadn't really watched Sons of Anarchy. We'd seen a few episodes. So I said, why don't I scrap that and we'll just watch Sons of Anarchy and talk about it. So we did, but we thought, wouldn't it be cool if we don't watch them in order? And that was a terrible idea because that was my idea because we, we would watch like episodes in season three and go, I wonder why, why would he do that?

Why would that happen? And the audience, but you lived it. You didn't even remember yourself. I don't remember anything.

No, I'm a goldfish. I don't remember anything. I won't remember this. The second I leave here, that's it. I get it. So then we started after when we got to season four, we started going in order and we talked to everyone from the show and it's been become this incredible thing.

And then we do theory, which was the original now as the side thing where I just kind of talk about things that make no sense. Okay. All right. Yeah.

What did your, you, you mentioned your mom earlier before. What did she think of Sons of Anarchy? It's a little violent for her.

It's a little bit too violent. Yeah. Okay.

She wants me just to play nice people. Well, so what's happening with that? I'm starting to, there's things coming out where I mean, I, I mean, don't let Emily the criminal fool you. Okay. Yeah.

Very good. Um, what, what is your takeaway from Sons of Anarchy now that you do look back, I know you said you're a goldfish, but yeah, we were just speaking about it. I think that it was, I'm so fortunate to be from an era where you watch TV where people, you lived with them for eight years, seven, eight years. So I now understand after watching it that you, you were with people every week and they talked about it at work and they watched it with their parents and they watched it with, you know, their significant other and they named their dog, Jax or Juice or Opie and it engulfed their life and we just don't have that anymore. We're consuming shows very fast and we don't have that connection if we, we almost forget about it because I think somebody just said there was like, I think 600 scripted TV shows last year. So I'm fortunate that there were these shows that Sopranos, The Wire, Oz, Breaking Bad, movies that were kind of these weekly and kind of hit the zeitgeist type thing. I was just saying I was in Bulgaria, you know, doing a film and there was someone with the reaper on it, like the Superman symbol. So it kind of traveled and became something.

So I'm really fortunate to have that and it's a great and most amazing fan base in the world. Well there is an, and there is obviously the streaming community where people who maybe didn't see it experience it the way that you just lamented that many people don't experience shows anymore. They could binge it, no Juice, literally within 72 hours and run into you in the street.

Which is really hard because they weren't kind of made for that. I can't imagine that emotional rollercoaster of going to the next episode, the next episode, next episode. I think that having that break, which I think we're starting to go back to, is kind of nice.

You have a moment. Although, you know, my wife and I just spent the weekend binging Yellowstone, which we didn't get into, you know, right here on Peacock. That's not why I'm saying it. I've got to get something extra in my check, but when we went from the end of season one right into the start of season two, I turned to her, I'm like, how lucky are we that it took us 10 seconds to get into something that somebody waited like a calendar year for. So I guess there is a benefit to that, but your show was not made for that and that is the way many people are trying to consume it. I think it works both ways. I think that it's a benefit to the audience to be more in it, like to really be in their life and as an artist, and I use that word sparingly with me, is it's to be connected to them. They get to know you more. Well, it's good.

It's great to get to know you and you, me, because when I walked in today and saw you for the first time, you didn't think there's a guy from Staten Island. But now you do. OK. You didn't have the hat on.

I did not have the hat on. That is correct. And by the way, I agree, people on this program is with that hat. But it's great to meet somebody from The Rock who's done so well. So congrats on that. That means a ton.

And that's the truth. Emily, The Criminal, check it out in theaters near you starting Friday, August the 12th. The Theory podcast drops wherever you can get your podcasts with twice a week releases. And when do we see, do you think this to do with The Cropsy when we see this?

When you start? We're filming at the end of October, so we got a bunch of stuff coming out between then and I'm sure we'll talk again. Maybe we'll go to D'Nino's in Staten Island. D'Nino's, hey, man, that was that was featured in the King of Staten Island, right?

When I saw that. Yeah, it's my buddy Burke. That's it, man. D'Nino's.

That's the real deal. Ralph's Ices. I was telling that to my son the other day.

They would never know. My sons would never know a Ralph's Ices. My dad taught me, rest in peace, he was an assistant. He was a vice principal at Port Richmond High School. So that was right there, right in Port Richmond. I went to Ralph's Ices. And D'Nino's, you went to everything there. Come on, man.

Your dad lived an amazing life. My mom grew taught in Brooklyn. She's, you know, she lives here in L.A. now. And yeah, man. Cool. In Staten Island. Oh, yeah.

They were, they were New York City public school educators that when the Verrazano Bridge got built, they went from Brooklyn right to Staten Island. Same exact thing happened with us. That's it, man. Isn't that incredible?

It's a small ask. Well, I'm sorry to hear about your dad, but it's great that your mom's here. I'm with you. And then you guys had Ralph's Ices together. It's the greatest because when you got to the bottom of it, it was, it was like crisp at the bottom. It was like, it was like syrup at the bottom. Ready?

The rainbow ice. I'm ready right now. At P.O. Rossi on Twitter. Check out Emily, the criminal in theaters on August the 12th right here on the Rich Eisen Show. The Sklar's still to come.

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Right now, at slash Rich Radio, slash Rich Radio. Dylan in Denver, you're on the Rich Eisen Show. How you doing, Dylan? Hey there, Rich. I'm doing well.

Just got a good fantasy team name for you guys. Oh. I actually walked right by. Okay.

What do you got? It's called I Got Shouldered. I Got Shouldered. I Got Shouldered. You want to write that down? I Got Shouldered. Writing it down.

Mmm. I Got A Long List of Names. I Got Shouldered. I Got A Long List of Names. There's a lot of people who have shouldered, but apparently I shouldered Vin.

I had no idea. You know, the one time I'm on a day, it's with Vin Scully, and I'm taking a picture with him. I shouldered him. Shouldering Vin Scully?

Where do you think, Dylan? Can we shouldering Vin? Could that be the fantasy team name, maybe?

Workshop this. Shouldering Scully? Ooh, yeah. I don't know. That's a good way to put it.

Vin shouldered me. Ha! Very good. Okay. Thank you. Great. I greatly appreciate it. I've now gotten people who consume this program looking at photographs, and it's true.

This is something that happens in all photographs. Somebody shouldered somebody else. And then the key thing is when you see, for instance, the new Amazon booth, right, or the new Amazon Prime Football booth with Al and Kirk, Herb Street, right? Kaylee Hartung, I believe, is the sideline reporter. That's some news in our industry that did not escape the two of you people? No, me. Nope. Okay. She's back.

She went back to news for a while. Okay. I don't know if they're going to have Al, Kirk, and Kaylee together in some point. They might Photoshop them all in together. They do. Yep.

And somebody always makes the conscious decision as to who shoulders who, always. So keep an eye out for all of that. When are we going to pick our fantasy? Are we going to do the Alice in Chains League this year? Of course.

I think so. They already sent the... You guys got to keep doing it. You won. I'll let you know.

We didn't win last year. We'll discuss it. Chris, we will discuss it. But I think in late August, I just got to reach out to Paul Rudd, because he's the guy who always chooses me every year. I got a list of like a hundred names that we're going to have to narrow down. Bill Belichick had his press conference today, or a press conference today, for a guy that has a reputation of supposedly not wanting to talk to the press, he talks to the press an awful lot.

He does. And today, a 14-year-old, I believe that's an eighth or ninth grader, depending on where they are in school, showed up, had a press pass, and asked a couple questions of Bill Belichick, who could not have been more gracious in answering. I'm Isaac Leibowitz here from Nightly Blues Kids Edition. Yeah. Are you this youngest reporter we've had? Fourteen. Fourteen?

Fourteen? All right. Coach Belichick, the team has been training hard out here. What sort of team bonding activities go on off the field? Team bonding off the field?

Yeah. Well, we do a number of things. A lot of just getting to know your teammates, so doing things like that, making sure that, honestly, that we know our teammates. Players coaches, coaches players players. So learn about your teammates, whether that's sitting with them at dinner, whether it's doing trivia questions, whether it's sometimes counting on each other. It's like one die, all die. If one guy makes a mistake, then everybody pays the consequences. That brings everybody together. It doesn't really matter if you know it, but if somebody doesn't know it, then everybody loses. Or sometimes if one person knows it, everybody wins, and then that person gets a lot of appreciation from his teammates.

So different things like that. I know it's Kendrick Bourne's birthday today. Are you planning on celebrating with the team? Of course. Yeah. We had Henry Anderson yesterday.

KB today. Yeah, we've had a bunch of birthdays, so yeah, we try to recognize those. Sometimes they slip by. Some guys want to be recognized. Some players don't.

Some of the older coaches don't necessarily need that. But yeah, sure. We'll get it. Thank you. Yeah.

Thanks for the questions. So there you go. And then somebody apparently in the media said to Isaac, you got one more.

He had one more. And that's today's Bill Belichick press conference moment. Today's Bill Belichick press conference moment. Well, we prefer to win. My friends and I watch a lot of football, more than our moms would like. And we're obsessed with fantasy football. Even though you don't play, do you think it's a good or bad for the NFL?

Yeah, honestly. I don't really have any opinion on that because fantasy football doesn't mean anything to me. We're just trying to win games out here. And so I don't know who's hot, who's not, who wins, who doesn't, I don't really care about that. I just care about whether we win.

So yeah, I have fun with that. Third bite of the apple sometimes, too big a bite, walk away. Chris tells me all the time.

TJ says it all the time, you're like, just leave, it was good. Should I put Kendrick Bourne in it? My flex?

What do you think? Right. Should I flex out, should I flex out Ramondre Stevenson? So Bill won't be on a fantasy show this year. I guess that won't be, that won't be new NBC Sports compadre, Matthew Berry's first fantasy football guest. John Ouse Smith? Yeah.

I pay Bill a lot. John Ouse Smith, I'm going to flex him, right Bill? You like Hunter Henry in the red zone? Tom Pelissaro of NFL Network will join us and so will the Sklars in studio, it will be fun hour three. Can we get Jacoby Myers some more targets?

Why not? I mean, you can't go, he went in, the first question was great, that was the longest Bill Bell check answer. Well, he's so- Which was great. He's amazing.

Everyone got to see the, you know, the guy that, everybody who knows. He's doing it for the kids, I mean. Of course. Bill's a good guy. Of course.

He is, he is a great guy, he really is. Maybe Bill doesn't like fantasy because Nike the dog is the one drafting his team. Oh, true. Could be that, could be that, right? Nike takes care of Bill's fantasy team. Nike sits there at the laptop, right? Yep.

And just blew the draft. Nike the dog. Right?

How lazy is it to name your dog Nike? What do you mean? What are you talking about? There it is.

Look at that, look at that. He has two laptops. There's Nike, maybe Nike's choosing the team, the wrong team. Nike blew it, left somebody on the board he didn't need to.

Multiple screens? That's Bill Belichick's dog choosing his fantasy team at the kitchen table. Nike drafted Nikhil Harry instead of DK Metcalf. Oh, see now you're trying to keep, now, now you're bringing us down, now you're bringing us down. I'm still mad about that. We're up here. We're up here. I'm having a good time.

Talking about fantasy, kids asking questions. You brought it down here, brought it down here. Nike passed on AJ Brown. Nike passed on AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Deebo Samuel. Great job.

Did he pass on Deontay Johnson too? He just got paid. Yeah. Good job, boy. There you go, $36.71 million, two years, there you go. That's it. Paid a man.

Okay, $19 million in year one, here we go. For Mitch Trubisky, second stringer, can he pick it? Mason Rudolph's.

Apparently looks the best right now. Oh, baby, that's all playing out. That's Belichick's fantasy team name. On to Cincinnati. Eight rings.

Eight rings. Exactly, yeah. I mean, that's it. Walk away.

Again, we're trying to go up, we're trying to... Eight rings. That's it.

And bring it down to the level of seriousness. Eight rings. Eight rings.

Come on. Suck it. Eight rings.

That's it. Suck it, eight rings? Like you add the suck it to it?

He had the suck it in the back. Yeah. Eight rings. Suck it.

Suck it, eight rings. I don't know. I don't know about that.

The Patriot Way, that could be the name of his team. Do your job. Do your job. Do your job. Do your job. There you go. Nantucket Naps. Let's get Isaac back out there. We should have Isaac ask him his New Year's resolution next time.

That'd be great. For the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments, it's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson, too. All-time Hogan opponents, Macho Man's gotta be in the conversation. Where's Andre for you? I've always said Andre was number one. Wow. Even going back before Hulk Hogan was a babyface, Hulk and Andre were able to go in and headline at the New Orleans Superdome, at Shea Stadium in Japan. Wherever they went, that was an attraction. Something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.
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