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Rich reveals his list of the NFL’s most disappointing teams through two weeks of the season. Pro Football Hall of Famer/NFL Network Analyst Kurt Warner and Rich break down the latest around the league including how the Giants, Bears and Commanders must react to injuries to Jaxson Dart, Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels, Brock Purdy playing as well as any QB in the NFL right now, why the much-touted pairing of Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel has failed to fire for the Chargers so far, how much Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers miss now-49ers WR Mike Evans, Saints QB Tyler Shough’s impressive start to the season, his concern level for Aaron Rodgers, Drake Maye, Daniel Jones and Bo Nix, and if the Vikings were right to reinstate Kyler Murray over Carson Wentz as their starting QB. Rich debates Brockman on why any NFL team would be foolish to trade one of their backup QBs to the Giants in the wake of Jaxson Dart’s season-ending knee injury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So that'll be a lot of fun here on this Wednesday show. 844-204-Rich is the number to dial to have a conversation with us today. It's week number three of the NFL that starts tomorrow, Atlanta visiting Green Bay on Prime Video for our friends there. Um and so it's time to take stock. It's time to take stock.

Because 0-2, back in the day when there were just 16 regular season games, I mean, that's a big problem. There's another one, there's a little bit more runway here. Teeny tiny. But we're we're around these parts. As you know, we deal in absolutes.

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Okay. Yeah, exactly. Your hat. Directing that one. Direct hat.

H-A-T. H-A-T. Your hat. Top of the heap. You just trouble.

Or uh you're you're Your hat. Yeah. And in that respect, I've done this. Every year for ten plus years now. Two weeks in.

We've got a top five list of the top five most disappointing teams through the first two weeks of the NFL season. This is kind of like the slow Fox music of the show. You don't want to be one of these teams. You don't want to be the guy on the ground when the Fox music starts rolling a break on the piano and Tom Rinaldi's here to make you cry. Oh, no.

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My five. One, two, three, four, five. Riches, top five. All right. My top five teams that have been the most disappointing teams through the first two weeks of this season.

And the first one is a is a team that I'm not disappointed in. As much as I'm disappointed for. A big difference in. Prepositions. Usually, this is a I'm a disappointed in list, as you'll soon see.

But the Washington commanders, I'm disappointed for.

Well, as well, disappointed in. That said, you know, I don't mind if Commanders fans. would look at this as a disappointed in and say what gives. At Philly, at Dallas. That's how we're starting the season.

Uh the uh schedule makers did us no favors. And then obviously I'm disappointed for Them with what happened with Jaden Daniels' left elbow. Second ugly dislocation of that elbow. In three hundred and sixty-five days. And a freak injury coming off of a play call that I clearly Dan Quinn would take back.

But I'm still mystified why they're going for a touchdown when all they need to do is kick a bunny field goal and they get. to start the second half. With the football and continue on and maybe take a lead against Dallas with Jaden Daniels, who is going to be out for who knows how long. I toyed with putting the New York Giants here because they're without their quarterback for arguably much longer than Jaden Daniels, because he is going to have surgery and he's going to be out for the season. Jackson Dart.

out for the season. He is having Surgery as I deliver this top five list to all of you.

So I'm obviously disappointed. Four Giants fans. But they're one and one with Jameis. We'll see what happens moving forward. The commanders are 0-2.

with the God chosen after Jameses. Drafting years ago on Marcus Mariota. Number four on my list. Of most disappointing teams through the first two weeks of the season. Houston Texans 0-2.

And, you know, defensively, first week, we may find out Josh Allen's going to do this to everybody. But, and we're going to find out maybe that the Cincinnati Bengals defense is going to do this to a lot of teams. After turning over the Bucs four times in week one and holding the Texans to just six points in week two. But the Houston Texans, just like the Los Angeles Chargers are 0-2, and they start at 0-2 at home. On top of it all, however, the Chargers had much easier opponents in their house.

And Houston lost to Buffalo and Cincinnati, and they visit Indianapolis in week three, a massive football game for 2-0-2 teams. I don't have the Colts on this list here. Because of the way they performed in Kansas City, almost knocking off the Chiefs, who I think we can all agree are quote unquote back.

So. I know I have a one-on-one team on this list and not an 0-2 team in Indianapolis. I do want to give them credit for what I saw in Kansas City on Monday night. And so, pardon me, on Sunday night, and I want to. I just the Texans are an 0-2 team at home.

Number three. I'm putting the bucks here. I think losing to Cleveland at home. You could sort of give them Um Not as much a pass but a break. For losing in Cincinnati?

To start week one, not an easy assignment to say the least, but coming home and losing to the Browns. In the manner in which they did? and Baker Mayfield has not looked like the same guy. This year Ibuka, not the same guy, doesn't look like the same guy there. Kenny Gainwell hasn't done very much at all.

We're expected to have seen him at least. At least show up like he did in Pittsburgh last year. Not yet. Defensively, Deshaun Watson. was a a a quarterback that comes in to their house.

and finds a wide open tight end to take the lead at the end of this game. Talk about disappointing. Owen too. But they're not even close to the most disappointing team in their division. No.

Number two on this list of the Atlanta Falcons.

Now, Not cool. When you got to be down at QB4 in quarter number eight of the season. I get it. And also, not great when you lose one of your top pass rushers because the guy couldn't control himself off the field. for half the season.

So I'm not saying they're By the way, none of these team seasons are over. I'm just talking about highly disappointing starts of the season. It was supposed to be Tua, if not Pennex. It's not Pennex, and it's not Tua because his back gives way. And it's Cooper Rush, who couldn't have been more disappointing.

They just wanted half the Cooper Rush from Dallas to show up and walk through the door, and the Cooper Rush from Baltimore walked through the door. And then it's turning to Jack Strand, and that's not great. Highly disappointing start for the Atlanta Falcons, who hopefully are going to turn it around with Pennix. Um who had this to say about When he Um When he thought he was coming back. and getting his starting job back.

I made the decision actually on Monday, Monday morning. I talked to coach Sunday after the game, you know, just let him know how the back end of last week went and I was feeling pretty good. And Monday morning came around and I felt very confident with this week. I felt very confident in my knee and how it's been feeling. Like I said, towards the back end of the week last week.

So that's how it happened. Yeah. And I think, you know, Monday morning would be a perfect time to Monday morning quarterback what we saw to Jack Strand and Cooper Rush and say, you know what, I'm feeling pretty good. And the knee feels great. Hey, woo, woo, my arm.

I'm spry. It feels good. Yeah. Number one most disappointing team in the NFL through two weeks, and I think there's no argument here: the Los Angeles Chargers. Yeah, no doubt.

You lose at home to Arizona, you lose at home to the Raiders. Justin Herbert is getting carved up everywhere. Uh although the all 22 Mavens are coming to his uh assist. By pointing out how many of these Throws and problems against the Raiders were not his fault. Yada, yada, yada.

Kurt Warner's going to join us in a moment with his thoughts on all this. But Mike McDaniel is supposed to unlock this guy, and instead, he's just been locked down. The interior offensive line has just been terrible in terms of blocking for him, from what it seems. And even Joe Alt had a bad day, as many people can do against Max Crosby. But to lose both at home to start the season, Jim Harbaugh has never been owing to any spot.

College or pro. Talk about highly disappointing. I mean, six fumbles. Omarion Hampton, you know, Daniel Jeremiah came on and said he thinks he could lead the league in rushing, and he's fumbling all over the place.

So LA Chargers, most disappointing team to two weeks. One more. I did not know. Oh, my boy. That's my boy.

Again, I've so disappointed four Giants fans. Again, Top Story leading our show on Wednesday is Jackson Dart. Is going to have surgery and is potentially even under the knife right now as we're talking. Because the sooner the better. As you can see, Patrick Mahomes, he had surgery on his blown-out knee the night he blew it out.

So doing it faster is better than not. But I'm putting a one-in-one team here that could easily be 0-2. I was sifting through it. I'm putting the Lions as my one-more. My one more.

Again, we'll find out if the Saints are the team that beat the Ravens and almost knocked off the Lions, and it's nothing to hang your head over, but. Just the miscommunication that's being talked about on the back end of their defense that's banged up again. And then you're talking about an offensive line that we're still waiting to see. um blow open a little bit more Uh running room. For Jameer Gibbs.

And offensively, Goff and Amonra looked good in Buffalo, but that That Bill was out of the barn by that point in time for much of that game. I'm concerned about the Lions, who are my choice prior to the season to win the division, but there's still more time to go. And that's my list of the top five most disappointing teams through two weeks. Brought to you by Hyundai. Getaway into the Hyundai Getaway sales event and get away with the deals so right it almost feels wrong.

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Kurt Warner, our Hall of Fame friend, is here on The Rich Eisen Show. Good to see you. How are you? I'm good, buddy. How are you?

I'm glad you're in the desk this week. I'm glad you're not out with a little bit of league. You're feeling good? I like it. I'm feeling fine.

You know what I mean? I only missed two of these shows and none of Game Day Morning. Hey, you play hurt, man. You play hurt. I know how you do it.

You know how I do it. I appreciate you. And I guess in terms of broadcasters, I'm an American underdog. You know what I mean? What do you think?

I might need one of those hats. Yeah, you're not that much of an underdog. You've been on top for a long time. You're too kind. No.

You're too kind. So the word is: Jackson Dart's going to be out for the year, Kurt. I mean, you were there in the radio booth. I saw you on. On countdown beforehand on ESPN.

My gosh. What I guess it's we're going to rally around Jameis Winston and we're going to win, we're going to play football, right? I mean, that's basically it. I mean, you have to. I mean, there's nothing else you can do this early in the season.

I was kind of with you guys when I saw it. You know, he kind of jumped into the air, so he wasn't planted.

So I was hopeful, even though you saw the movement of the knee, hopeful that it wasn't going to be a long-term thing. You know, but, you know, with all these young guys, you know, you start wondering, you know, how much is caution at this point? Like, hey, you know, don't need to throw them back out there. before we, you know, before we need to, since this is a long-term thing with, you know, some of these guys that we believe could be franchise quarterbacks, but obviously disappointing, you know, early in the season, especially after week one, such high hopes for the team. And you could just feel when I was talking to the coaches and the players before the game that they were building something.

They were believing in what John Harbaugh was selling. And although they knew they weren't there yet, they felt like they were moving in the right direction. And obviously, so much of that is centered around the young quarterback and what he brings and the confidence that he brings when he steps on the field. And so. Yeah, just disappointing.

And, you know, I think on top of that, I'm a huge Jameis Winston fan. You know, believe that he does a lot of things well, but he didn't look that part the other night. He didn't play very well at all. And I'm sure that just adds to it. Not that people in the locker room don't love Jameis and don't believe in Jameis, but when you go from your starter to your backup and you see a definitive decline in the moment, that can really take the wind out of the sales of an entire locker room.

The opposite, though, when Jaden Daniels went out, I mean, Marcus Mariota seemed to be able to move that offense. And in a way, the game was essentially over, though, but because Dak was so on point with CeeDee Lamb in particular. And then now we're going to wonder what's going on with Tyson Bagent in Chicago, and he's in concussion protocol. It could be Case Keenum, but I'd be remiss. I've got one of the, if not the greatest, You know, with Tom Brady, back up, take to the Super Bowl quarterbacks in the history of sports.

What is the challenge here? Like, what is the challenge? You at least had a couple of weeks before you got out there. What is the challenge for any of these backups to try and get something going and people to believe? Curt.

Well, I think the challenge when you look at, let's look at Chicago and Washington specifically, the challenge is that. The team is built around, and Chicago is a better team than I think Washington is right now, but they're built around the playmaking of their quarterback. And that's the hardest thing to replace is that, you know, you can get guys to come in, whoever it is, Case Keenum, a guy that's been in the league for a long time, Marcus Mariota, a guy that's been in the league and started a lot of games in the league that can play good football and be a really good complimentary piece to your team. But it's hard to find another guy that can carry your team. And so when you look at Washington, you say, okay, if we don't have Jaden Daniels running for, you know, the big plays that he ran for and making some of those big throws down the field, do we have enough on this team to sustain success week in and week out?

And again, not that Marcus is a bad quarterback, but he's not going to give you the same dynamic playmaking as Jaden is. And the same in Chicago is Case Keenum can do some things for you and be a complimentary piece if you can run like you did in week one. You can get turnovers like you did last year. Yeah, you can have a semblance of success. But so much of these two teams, I believe, they're not great football teams.

So so much depends on that quarterback doing something extra, giving us something extra. I mean, Chicago last year, what was it, seven games that they came back late where Caleb had to, you know, make those game-changing plays to get him a win? That's kind of who I see these teams are. And that's what's so hard. If you have a good, solid team, and now you just have to place in a backup and say, hey, you know, make a few plays for us here, make the layups, do this, and we can win, that's one thing.

But I'm not sure any of these teams are in that position where they need their quarterback to do a little bit more. And that's the hardest thing of replacing a starting quarterback, a young star and playmaking quarterback with a backup. My guy, Kurt Warner, here on The Rich Eisen Show. Let's talk about quarterbacks who are healthy, thank goodness, and are playing. Playing at the top of their game right now.

Obviously, Allen and Mahomes are guys that we can point out. Lamar had a great week one, not so much week two. Who are we not talking about that you've been seeing balling out? The biggest one has to be Brock Purdy. You know, Brock's playing really, really good football.

And I did a breakdown on my YouTube page, QB Confidential yesterday on Brock. And the thing about Brock is, again, we're never going to talk about him like Allen and Mahomes simply from what we can see and the tangible things that Brock brings a lot to the table, but it's not being 6'4 and it's not a cannon arm. He brings so much to the table in terms of playing the position. And my breakdown talks a lot about that. It's being able to set his feet, being able to throw with anticipation, understanding how to throw with touch when he needs to, getting through the processing part of it really, really quickly.

It doesn't look like wow to most people. Most people are like, oh, anybody in the league could make that throw. But it's how he does it and the consistency by which he does it that makes him unique and special. I think I saw stat the other day that, you know, in the first five years of their career, nobody has more 100. 40-plus quarterback rating games than Brock Purdy.

And that's who he is: he's going to be consistently good. He fits that style. He's going to make plays for you above and beyond the XOs. Even though, again, it may not look as special as some of the other guys, they're really special. And so I tried to do my breakdown where I really focused on those nuances that make quarterbacks great and consistently great that too often we don't talk about.

And, you know, they get overridden by the running and the jumping and the throwing by some of these other guys. But Brock is playing extremely well at the position, and he has since he came into the league. It's just trying to really push the recognition that I think he deserves. Kurt Warner here on The Rich Eisen Show. What are you seeing that's not working with the Chargers and Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniels' offense?

What is going on? To me, it's so much about flow, getting into a flow as an offense, getting into a flow as a quarterback where it's play after play, series after series, and you're just not seeing that with this team. It's really clunky, it doesn't seem to fit right now. And they'll make a big play here or there, a big throw, and it looks great, but there's just no flow in their offense. And this was one of my questions coming into the season: Mike McDaniel, genius by all rights, and people love what he does offensively.

Justin Herbert, extremely talented, gifted, has done so many great things in the early stages of his career. Put these two guys together, and man, you're going to see the genius of Mike McDaniel, and you're also going to see everything that's been missing from Justin Herbert. I had a question going in simply based off of what Mike did. And I can go back to San Francisco. We just talked about Brock Bertie.

That offense requires something different from the quarterback. It requires the ability to make different. Kinds of throws, to throw with anticipation, you know, to layer balls up and over linebackers and that sort of thing. It's what Brock Purdy is the best in the league at. It's what Tuatonga Valo was really, really good at and why he had great years in that system.

I was questioning whether Justin Herbert had that in his game. He can make every throw. He's a guy that likes to see it and drive the ball, as opposed to try to find these windows, especially when you're turning your back to the defense and planting your back foot and finding it and finding different ways to make throws. And that to me has been something that's been off these first couple weeks. And I'm not here to say Justin Herbert can't do it.

I'm just here to say it hasn't been how he's played. And there's going to have to be some adjustment, whether it's in the offense or in Justin Herbert, to make this a perfect marriage and a perfect fit. And that's what I'm seeing in the first couple of weeks: when it's open and it's there, it can look good. But when it's tight and it's tough, all the things we saw Tua do in Miami, I mean, you could watch film every week and you're like, man, what made him make that throw? And it was simply, can you make the throw, Tua?

I'm not going to ask you to read this defender and see if he pulls down on this route and throw it. It's you come back, hit your back foot. If you feel a window's in there and you can make that throw, make it a throw. The throw. And most of the time, it looked really good.

Sometimes it leads to some really bad-looking throws because they're asking him to do that over and over and over again. I'm still waiting to see if this offense is going to be that, if Justin Herbert can play in that type of offense, or if an adjustment has to be made. What adjustment? Like, what do you do?

Well, I mean, the adjustment would just have to be you're playing a different style, you know, more of, you know, drop back style when you want to throw, you know, when you want to throw the football, or more of, again, it's hard to break it down, but it would be more of kind of a layered type offense where Justin gets to come back. He gets to read the flat defender. Does the flat defender dictate to throw it over the top or underneath? Where it develops a little bit, you know, slower. It allows your quarterback to see it a little bit more and then drive the football, as opposed to all of this anticipatory type throwing and detail within their play-action game that is a lot harder for most.

Quarterbacks. And that's the other thing. I don't want to sit here and say, oh, Justin Herbert is one guy. That's hard for a lot of guys. There's not a lot of guys that are great in the Shanahan system, in my opinion.

There's not a lot of guys that would have been great in Miami in that system because it takes a different kind of quarterback that plays with that anticipation, timing, and touch. And not every quarterback can do that.

So that to me is where you can make some adjustments with the way they've played or way they played last year with hardball is more of that stack stuff, you know, longer developing play action stuff as opposed to those quick hitters, anticipatory type plays. What's wrong in Tampa? I mean, it just, you know, offensively, it just, again, looks disjointed. It doesn't look smooth. And, you know, one thing that's kind of amazing is that Mike Evans has been a great player for a long time.

And when you watched him the last couple years in Tampa, you started to wonder: okay, is he getting a little bit older? Doesn't quite have the burst, you know, suffering some of those injuries at that point. And so they move on. And I could fully understand why, you know, why that happens. Mike wants to go somewhere else, and Tampa says, okay, it's all right.

We got a couple young guys. But I don't think you understand the value of that guy. You know, the guy that can just make a quarterback better, a guy that a quarterback can depend on, those one-on-one situations to put the ball out there and that he's going to make plays. I mean, he's been a huge addition for San Francisco already. You know, he's become that go-to guy on the outside for Brock Purdy and looks great in San Francisco.

I believe Tampa's missing that guy, even though they have some other good players. Players outside, they don't have that guy. And I think that's hurt them to have, you know, and Baker to not have one guy to be able to go, hey, this is the guy, my safety net, my safety blanket, that I can come back here and take this guy. And so everything has become harder for them offensively. Defensively, they haven't played great.

They're kind of, you know, they're one of these that, you know, risks a lot and blitzes a lot. And they also give up a lot of big plays.

So you knew that was going to be a part of it. You thought the offense could stabilize them. And it's just not doing it right now. And I think a big reason is because they haven't had that one guy step up and become that difference maker for their offense. Bryce Young, or let's go, Kurt Warner here on the rich guys.

Bryce Young or Tyler Shuck. Through two weeks, which quarterback do you think is Just taken off. Like you could say both, but if you actually screw it, you can only take one. One guy that you've seen through the first two weeks go, that's it, right there. Yeah, I'm gonna take Tyler in this one.

And again, I don't wanna slight Bryce because I think Bryce is. played really well in two weeks. And the great thing about Bryce is he continues to go like this is that we could all look back to the early part of his career and he gets benched and a lot of people wondering if he's a bust. And he's done nothing but respond to that and gotten better and better and better. And every time out, he makes some big time throws.

I'm just going to go Tyler simply from the standpoint that I just love the way he plays the game. You know, he's got good solid base and technique that can carry him. He's going to make big time throws just like Bryce every single game. I love the plan that he has. You know, I talk about it all the time on our show, having a pressure plan, you know, knowing where you want to go with the football, having a plan on each and every play.

He has that for a second year guy. And, you know, and he's been great in the moment. You know, he's been a guy that when the team has needed him in, you know, late in the fourth quarter against the Ravens, brought him back and put him in a position to win. And they didn't get the two-point conversion and they lose by a point. And then last week to bring them.

Back. I'm sorry. You know what I'm talking about. The Ravens this past week being able to bring them back and get the touchdown to win. And so, you know, Detroit, I think it was the first week.

But I love that. I love that he's put everything together and he's not there yet. He's still missing some things and playing fast at times. But when you put the body of work and you say, okay, want to check this box and check this box and check this box, he checks a lot of boxes right now for a second-year guy that's continuing to grow. And I really like the way he's played in the fourth quarter in these two games.

So I'll give him a slight edge right now. Hey, man, we were in that conference room in that Munich Hotel. Right. Panthers and Giants. And that was the season in which.

Bryce was benched in favor of Andy Dalton by new head coach Dave Canalis. And then Dalton got hurt in that car accident, and Bryce got the gig back. And you and I were talking with him in that meeting. I mentioned that the time he sat out was called a sabbatical. He kind of found that funny.

He said, Can I use that? But we were there. We sat. We watched him wondering where he was going. He played well that game, wound up being Daniel Jones's last game as a giant, also.

And Bryce Young has. You could make the case that he's been unlocked. Right. I mean, Coker's fifth in the league in receiving. Tet's ninth through two weeks.

Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. And, you know, when talking to Bryce a little bit, and there's often times we don't want to admit it as players, but there's times when we. Can take a step back. And, you know, in this case with Bryce, when he was benched, I think Sam Darnold would tell you the same things: times when you have expectation and you have confidence in who you are, but you're thrown into a situation and you're trying to continually live up to the hype and trying to figure out how to play and how to do this NFL thing while you're having to live up to these expectations and have success along the way. And sometimes you see a guy that gets a chance to step back, and those expectations are taken off the table and they're put in a role where they have to sit back and learn and watch and see how it's done and maybe just take a deep breath of, okay, not that I want to be on the bench, but a deep breath from everything that's laid on their plate.

And in doing that, they're able to pick up things, learn things, change their perspective on things.

So when they get that next chance, they're in a completely different headspace than they were before. I mentioned Sam Darno. I've talked to him numerous times about this. And he went to San Francisco and sat on the bench and watched Brock Purdy and was around Kyle Shanahan. He said something clicked for him and he looked at things differently when he went to Minnesota and now in Seattle and he's revitalized his career.

I feel like Bryce did the same thing: he learned and watched Andy Dalton and he got a little of that expectation taken off of him. And you put him back in at that point and it's like, I don't know, maybe he's a bust at this point. And now it's just, hey, now it's about making growth and now it's about just taking steps. And that's what we've seen is maybe, you know, he's not at the point where he's a great quarterback or an elite quarterback yet. But because of that reset, now we're looking at him completely different.

Oh, man, every year he's taking a step up. He's making more plays. He's starting to look the part because he's had an opportunity now to grow into the position as opposed to being expected to be in that position from day one. All right, so in the first couple of weeks where we've seen Quarterbacks still try to get their footing, right? Um, Rogers could be one just in terms of Obviously, he's been there, done that, but I'm just talking about in terms of what we can expect the rest of the season.

One and one, Bo Nix, one and one, Jordan Love, one and one, right? I'm just going through Trevor Lawrence, one and one. Which one are you? Right. So, which one do you think?

You're cool with. We're going to see a fine rest of the season, if not a highly successful one. Mm. That's a good question. I'm worried about that.

You only ask those, Kurt. Come on. Yeah, I mean, a lot of those guys I'm worried about. You know, Pittsburgh, well, they got dominated up front, and I worry about their weapons on the back end that, you know, with Aaron at this point in time. Drake May has me a little concerned right now, not playing up to, you know, the standard that he set last year, and really looks like he's lost a little bit of confidence in these last few games.

I really like what Daniel Jones is doing. I think he fits well with that offense. I think he's a player that I know what I'm going to get from him. I know what I'm probably not going to get from him. I don't believe he's ever going to get to that elite category, but he's a solid quarterback.

And with Jonathan Taylor in the run game and what they have, he's going to be a perfect complimentary piece.

So I like the way that he's played the first couple weeks of the season at this point.

So there's the jury's out. Nick's, there's still, to me, some concerns with Bo. Bo, again, I like Bo, and he may. makes a lot of throws um but you know he's still to me a little bit too impact patient in the pocket and i'm just waiting for him to take that step and i know i've talked to sean payton um and he told us about um we were doing one of those game he told us about how you know he's more of you got drew brees in him and you put him in a point guard spot and when the game's in the balance we're going to call a timeout with drew breeze and we're going to set up a play and we're going to allow drew to kind of dictate what goes and with boneks we're not going to call a timeout we're going to put the ball in his hands and just let him go and create and that's very much how he plays the quarterback position uh is he wants to move his feet he wants to get on the run and you saw last week a couple incredible throws on the run he throws really well on the run but that impatience in the pocket to me costs them opportunities and makes the game harder on their offense than it needs to be so i really like him but at some point i believe he's going to have to take that jump where he gets more settled in the pocket and can make more of those you know first rounds Those designed shots that are there for him, and not just making the offense harder for this team than it has to be. Last one for you, quick hitter.

You agree with the decision to put Connor back in? In Minnesota? Yeah, I do. I believe you have to see what you have there. He won the job before.

You got to let that play out while you're trying to figure out what your future is. Carson has done a nice job. But again, I think we know who Carson is. I know Minnesota knows who Carson is because he's been there for a couple of years.

So you don't need that experiment necessarily to play out. The idea here with Minnesota is, of course, you'd like to have success and win this year, but you're trying to figure out who your quarterback of the future is and whether it's somebody on your roster or you have to go out and get another one.

So I believe when Kyler Healthy, you have to play him again, at least in the short term, to see what he can be for your football team. By the way, your QB Confidential YouTube page went over $110,000. Subscribers while we talk.

So you're welcome. Hey, I appreciate it. Yeah. See, see, you're on top. Us underdogs, we're trying to get there, but you're helping us.

No, I'm helping us step up. Before you came on, I'm like, I wonder how many he's got.

So I'll mention it. I saw before 109. I hit refresh, 110.

So you're welcome, Kurt. It's called the Rich Eisen Show. Bump. Thank you. I will take that bump every Wednesday.

So, by the end of the year, where are we going to be? 200, 250? I don't know. I mean, let's just, you know, let's go. I'm going to turn my steps.

Small steps. Yeah, I'm going to turn my back to the defense and, you know, play action, and we'll see what happens when it turns out. Appreciate you, Mike. I'll see you on Sunday, sir.

Okay, buddy. NFL Game Day Morning, Kurt Warner, part of the crew on NFL Network. At uh 9 AM Eastern Time. Just had a video go up a couple hours ago about Josh Allen. Let's take a break when we come back more on what's gone down with the Giants and what they could possibly do.

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Mm-hmm. You know, and John Harbaugh was asked by Ian O'Connor prior to this news coming out of. This very question. Can you overcome that kind of hit to your team within a week? Is that.

A realistic proposition to be able to overcome a loss like that. This quickly, yeah. I mean, I don't think I'm not really wanting to get into the hypothetical conversation about that, you know, because uh. That's not fair. When the decision gets made, then we'll talk about that conversation.

But I can tell you this: if you get punched in the gut, Ian, Are you going down? No. Ian O'Connor, are you going down? You got to crumple to the ground. As Jack Harbaugh would say, like a sack of sour apples and just fall to the ground and just rot away and wither away.

Into the dust, is that what you're gonna do? No. I don't think so. No. I don't think modern, so we're not supposed to do that.

That's right. You know, again, letting the smile be his umbrella right there. Not know, I mean, he could have known right now at that point in time, like where it was going, where it was headed. And now, you know. Darts out, and that's just a different version of the rat.

We're going to rally around Jameis Winston, and we're going to win football games. And, you know, Tom Pilicero, Ringer, and. Netflix is going to be joining us top of our number two with options the Giants are going to have. But I just looked at half the depth charts, okay? During the commercial break.

And There's There's n there's no one's gonna trade anybody to the Giants. Nobody. Mm. And you were like, well, well, who knows? Price Could be right somewhere else.

Again. Arizona. They've got Gardner Minshew and Carson Beck. A lot of people are pointing at Arizona because, listen, if it doesn't work out with Brissette, you're going to see what you have in Beck.

So you might as well, you know, part with Gardner Minshew. Give him a chance. All right. Is that any better than Jameis Winston? Let's get him in and try and coach him up?

I don't think so. All right. You're going to trade draft capital for that? Uh-huh. Baltimore, let's just say he wants to Uh go for Huntley, Snoop Huntley.

He knows Snoop, right?

Okay. But why would Baltimore trade away Snoop Huntley behind Lamar Jackson when the guy in third uh string is Joe Fignano? Fregnano, the uh rookie from UConn. Bless you. Are you going to go with a rookie from UConn that everything else is built up, ready to potentially win the AFC?

You're going to go. Why would Baltimore do that? Buffalo has Kyle Allen behind Josh Allen, and nobody, to use a hardball phrase after that. Why would they do that? What about Carolina behind Bryce Young?

He's got Kenny Pickett. And behind him is the Hall of Fame game great Haynes King. Hmm. A rookie. Really?

Why would they do that? Atlanta? Why would they have four? Right. And they're down to their fourth.

We already saw what three and four looks like, and you're you're the Giants are going to be like, we're going to go with, like, let's flip them something for Tua. That's better than. Than Jameis? I think that's the best option. I don't think so.

You're already saying they should call CBS and say, I think they should. Is Russ really cooked? I think they should. Come on, man. I don't know.

Jameis looked cooked on that. Why would Denver flip Stidham? We saw that they needed him in the biggest moment. Why would Detroit flip Dobbs when there's nobody behind him? Why would Green Bay flip Tarad Taylor when there's nobody behind him?

Why would Houston flip Davis Mills when there's nobody behind him? Why would you reach out for Anthony Richardson and try and coach him up? What about Joe Milton? That's better than Jameis? Come on, it's probably just a younger version of Jameis.

Jameis is there. They know Jameis. Jameis has been with them through the. Through the summer, he just looks so bad. Why would the Niners, in any way, shape, or form, flip Mac Jones to the Giants?

When they know what Mac Jones did to keep them afloat for a one seed last year, and they're 2-0 with a terrific team that George Kittle rightfully said. Feels good about them. Giants are in trouble, then, is what we're saying. What I'm saying is, it's Jameis' gig. Tom Pellisero will maybe give us more insight on all that coming up.

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