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Jason Clark just came through, the actor who plays the. I guess imprisoned, if you will, Alec Murdoch in the new Hulu show, Murdoch, Death and the Family. You also played Jerry West on winning time. And it was a great chat. Also made me learn Del Tufo is no longer in charge of the mute button.
When somebody curses. By the way, not a bad thing. You really didn't know that? I did not know that it's handled elsewhere as opposed to here locally. We haven't needed it.
I couldn't be happier that that's off of Delta. Marshawn Lynch was the day that I worked. I thought Beast Moat broke it. Yeah, that's what happened. I couldn't remember.
We need something else.
Someone else has to be. At that point, I was like, hit it. Hit it. He would turn to me. Just had a nice chat in the green room with our third hour guest coming out shortly.
Matthew Lillard back on the program. I forgot. He's one of Chris Brockman. He's one of the taller than you think club members. Yeah, no doubt about that.
And something that, however, he does have in common with you because you're the height, I would assume you'd be, Mike. Thank you. You're welcome. By the way, I am sure. Here's something.
Years ago, I'm sure he'll remember me and Matt Lillard. We were in a Clippers email group chat for like years. A bunch of Clippers fans matched for. I saw it like four or five years we were on this chat. Was Chris Paul in that chat and then kicked out?
And then welcome back and then kicked out. This is Prelob City.
Okay, so back in the day. Back in the day. All right.
Well, he's a Dodger fan, just like you. Nice. I love it. Fellow Dodger fans when they come in. But he's been a Dodger fan his whole life, though, I believe.
Unlike you being the fraud that you watch. I'm not a fraud. I've lived here more than I've lived here.
Well, we'll ask Matthew if he'll exception.
Okay, he's just coming for all of us in big. He's in Five Nights at Freddy's 2. Five Nights at Freddy's was the highest-grossing horror film of 2023, so you know what that means. Gotta get a sequel.
So he's gonna be coming out in support of that. He's also in the new season of Daredevil Born Again. This spring coming up on Disney Plus, which is where we're at every single day, every single day, 12 to 3 Eastern, here on ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance again. 844-204-NIT Rich is the number to dial.
So You know, we haven't spoken about the mid-season hard knocks very much. I know you're locked into it, right? Yeah.
Have you watched all of them? I know. I've just got the first two. I think there's. I don't think there's more than four yet.
I don't know the exact number, but it involves the NFC East. I think it's been, is this year three of them being embedded in a division? The mid-season hard knocks has been fun. Um for various reasons because you do get To see what's happening almost in real time. Yeah.
What's just happened, for instance?
So this week's episode of Hard Knocks. Took you inside the Washington Commanders' meeting room before they took on Jackson Dart. and the giants. And this one exchange hopped out at me. Because it's Dan Quinn.
And Joe Witt Jr., the HC and DC, respectively, of the Washington Commanders. Talking to a room full of Defenders On how to get ready for Jackson Dart. Who, as you know, prior to this game. had spent Not one, not two, not three, but four times in a blue tent this season being looked at for a concussion and then wound up. This being game number five.
And you know, Jackson Dart has been... adamant at the podium of saying this is the way i've played This is the way I've gotten to the league. This is the way I got, I guess, to be, I'm paraphrasing here, to be a first-round pick. This is the way I've gotten to be a first-round pick who's done well in a first season here in New York City. Um So this is who I am.
I don't care what y anybody's saying. I'm not as reckless as you think. This is what Dan Quinn and Joe Witt had to say to the commanders before playing them. And the last piece, QB, all right? When he's out here, he is a running back first.
So this is a good hit by Ellis onto the sideline, all right? He is not looking, all right, to go down and get into the slide.
So we got to go out ahead, fellas, all right? The quarterback is a very competitive dual-thread guy, okay? He will try to run the ball like a running back. He will try to run you over, he will try to steal farm, he doesn't really run out of bounds, he doesn't slide a whole bunch, okay? We can get the ball off of him.
The ball is life, it is air, and we need it. The ball is life, it is air, and we need it. And the Ellis, he's referring to. Chris, who's the Ellis he's referring to? Sean Ell?
No, the Ellis from your team that blew him up on the sideline when he didn't go out of bounds on that Monday night. I don't remember against the Giants. That was the latest one where it's just like, bro. How many times are you going to be blue-tinted or sit out due to concussions until you just step out of bounds? Yeah, Christian Ellis.
When are you gonna listen? Because he remains Adamant about still playing the manner in which he's been playing. And I saw that earlier this week. And to be honest, with everybody. We were gonna Do this on our show.
Yesterday or two days ago, whenever it came out? yesterday, but there was too much going on for us to to hit it. And For the lack of a better phrase, hit it. But I was going to show that and say, listen, Jackson. They are talking about you as a running back because of your.
behavior. to stay in bounds. And the people he's telling it to Include Bobby Wagner. Mm-hmm.
Okay? And You don't want Bobby Wagner to treat you like a running back.
So I was going to say that. And then Jackson Dart speaks yesterday and he Went to the podium, basically said, Oh, I've heard, I hear it. And I'm going to do something completely, no, wait a minute. I'm being told he's still adamant. I mean, Kirby Smart said the exact same thing every time that he played against me, so did Nick Saban, so did every coach that I played in college.
So this is nothing new. You know, just try to go out there, play smart, and be available for your team. What did they say? Did they say stuff like, you know, he's not going to slide, we have to hit him. What kind of stuff did Kirby Smart and Nick say?
I mean, I can't put together exactly what they said, but there was definitely a lot of interviews that you guys can, you know, we can all go back and look at. And this isn't like a new thing that's been brought up in my career. I'm so nervous. Again, I might be overly cautious. I don't know.
That's the dad end. Maybe that age wrote. It's like I hear that. I'm like, oh my God. But let me just put it in football terms, okay?
I've told this story before. I'm sorry. I feel like you guys are like Susie, where you've heard all my stories 50 times.
So I apologize. It may be just a new audience.
Okay, thank you. I appreciate that accommodation from you. Thank you, sir. Um Peyton Manning comes in the league from Tennessee. Marshall Fox is next to him in pretty much every formation.
And thus, when there was an interception that Peyton threw in his rookie season, 28 of them, I believe, Marshall would be running off the field most of the time right next to Peyton Manning. And Marshall tells the story that Peyton would say the same thing almost all the time after many of these interceptions was: I didn't think he could get there, meaning the defensive back. Couldn't, he thought that his receiver was open. Didn't think the defensive back would be able to make it to the spot where Peyton is throwing it. Instead, he did throw it to that spot.
The guy did make it. picked him off. Marshall said he'd let him Say that frequently, trying to let him figure it out himself, which, by the way, yada, yada, yada. He did. He has.
But until Marshall finally said he told him, Peyton, this is the NFL. They can all get there. That's true. Not in the SEC anymore. And that's what I will say to Jackson Dart.
You're not in the SEC anymore. It doesn't matter if Kirby Smart said it or Nick Sabin said it. It doesn't matter.
Okay, because these are now grown-ass men who can all get there. Many of them, by the way. And the pushback could be, and understandably, huh? A lot of those guys who can get there now were in the SEC when Kirby was saying this and Nick Sabin was saying this. I totally get that.
And he may just be defiant in front of the media while. um addressing this mentally behind the scenes. But I still haven't seen it yet. He's playing just a little too reckless for me. Five trips to the Blue Town.
Right. Uh I I I don't know. This is why I would be willing. The Giants have got three games to go. I know Jackson Dart doesn't want to hear it, and one day I do hope to meet him in person.
You know, I know a lot of these rookies who flash. as well as he has flashed In his first season, do make Super Bowl tours, and we would be happy to have Jackson Dart. on the program if he does show up in Santa Clara when we're there, in San Francisco when we're there. Um But Minnesota And at Vegas at Homeford, Dallas. I'd put Jameis out there, man.
That's eight straight losses now for the Giants. Eight. And, you know, if I'm the Giants, I want that first overall pick, and I want the Raiders right behind me. And I want any other, I want, you know, our co-tenants right behind me, and I want. Any name me the quarterback needy team.
I want them calling Joe Shane up and offering the moon. Because you do have Dart and you do have Scatterboo and you do have... Malik neighbors, all coming back, I just don't want Dart to be in the coming back. category. Yeah.
Yeah, Cleveland, Jets, Arizona, all behind them right now. Honestly, Bobby Wagner's hearing, go and hit him. Yeah, I mean, the ball is life. It is air. We need it.
I hear that. And that's a commanders' team that's equally as eliminated as the Giants. My I shouldn't share this, but I will anyway. But any father of teenagers, a mother of teenagers listening as well, understands, you know, teenagers don't like to be told what to do, and they don't like because they feel infantilized. Right.
And certainly, in this day and age of phones and putting downtime on them and making sure they're off their screens because they are the devil. They're even our devil too, right? These screens? Yep. I bet you Jackson feels infantilized by saying, Son, you're not playing.
We don't trust you right now because you're putting your head down or you're. We just don't need these concussions, they are happening too fast. We don't want you to do this. Blue tent thing. The way to go about it.
Your 2025 season is done. You're awesome. The city loves you. The Giants fans hope. have hope in you, right?
Am I wrong? Am I overstating that? I mean, I see where you're coming from from a health perspective. But when we first put that out on social, it was overwhelming that people, Giants fans, didn't want to hear it.
Well, it was also three weeks ago when we did it with six games to go.
Now there's three. And he had his fifth trip to the tent, and he, after the game, was like, I don't know why they took me out. Like, I'm fine. I don't know why they took me out. It's like.
The reason why is the people who are taking you out know the National Football League a little bit better than you do. And it's the same way that, again, being a father of teenagers, it's just like, hey, listen. Uh I've I've been I've been around a little bit longer than you. I know. And you know what the pushback is?
You don't know. No, you don't know. Dad, you're down.
So I kind of feel like this is a bit of a push-pull. I am dumb sometimes though. Yeah.
I can admit that.
So I kind of feel that way. I understand what the pushback is. In terms of, you know. Winning football games right now, you don't want Jackson Dart to go out on an eight-game losing streak. I understand.
You want to put him out there. You also don't want to win the last games. I would imagine it does not help them. No. No.
So.
Well, and I guess maybe the best way to Lose those games. Might not be to put Jameis in there.
Okay. Well, I mean, yeah, because next thing you know, he's got 330 and four touchdowns and three picks.
Somehow you win the game. Like. And then there's Russ. Russ is sitting there right now, man. Here we go.
Russell Wilson is sitting as a third-string quarterback.
Well, you still want people to go to the house. Yeah.
All of these stats that I keep sh seeing in front of me about All of these rookies in the second-year starters and third-year starters, or Mahomes in year seven. Do you know who's right there with him in terms of first six, seven years of a career? It's Russell Wilson. Hall of Fame trajectory 100%.
So again, I am concerned that Jackson Dart has this. Maybe this is what makes him successful, this sort of. rebellious adamant streak in him. It's what led him to the Giants drafting him first overall. And you need that confidence as a quarterback.
But right now, I just. Yeah, I don't know if it's Sunk in. And I'm sure his point would be it doesn't need to. 844204 Rich number to dial. We've got a higher register to get to.
But we're going to do that at the end of the program. How does that sound?
Sounds good. And Matthew Lillard is going to come out of our green room. Let's bring them on out. Five Nights at Freddy's 2 in theaters now nationwide. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast.
Played in the NBA Entertainment League for years.
So I was on Bob's team. I had five good fouls to give. Hold on a second. Matthew Lillard here on the Rich Eisen Show. Our radio audience just returned to ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance.
Welcome back. You were on the series as well. Five Nights at Freddy's 2 is in theaters nationwide right now.
So you were in the what? You're in the NBA Entertainment League. You've never heard of this? Oh, come on. This was legendary.
Yeah, you spent too much time in Bristol. Go ahead.
So for about 10 years, the NBA sponsored like a celebrity league that we would meet down at Crossroads every Sunday, full refs, full uniforms, like NBA uniforms. And you would play again, you'd play a 20-minute game.
Okay. Who was in this with you? Oh, well, Bob Myers. Oh, geez. Who else?
I mean, hold on a sec. I'm going to tell you, Kevin Hart. He played point guard forever. Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart was the man.
Yeah.
But we had like. All of the, you know, it was like everything else in Hollywood. Like, you had like literal celebrities that would play. I like, you know, you'd have people out there playing, but then you'd have all these guys that were ringers. I mean, there was like, you're not in the, you're seven foot.
You're not in the right. I was like, he's like, I run security for dudes. I'm like, that's such BS. But we would fly around. Like, I have very clear memories.
Like, we'd fly around and play at halftime of NBA games or after a game. Yeah.
And at one point, it was like, you know, Cube played, Ice Cube played all the time. Kutcher played who? Ash and Kutcher. Yeah, Kutcher played. It was like, it was crazy.
It was a bunch of dudes. And we would go out and run. Yeah, but I would play, like, we would play and fly around on planes and play in front of like full you'd go on road trips. Yeah.
Yeah.
Why won't the NBA do that again? You'd think they would, right? Yeah, I don't know why because it ended up not being celebrities. It just ended up being powerful executives buying teams and bringing in riggers. Dude.
Yeah.
But Bob Myers, I was on Bob Myers' team, like me playing against Bob Myers, a uh College champion at UCLA. Are you 6'2 ⁇ , 6'3? I'm 6'4. 6'4 ⁇ .
So Bob Myers never thought about giving you a 10-day? No, I said, look, dude, I got five fouls. I got four years of eligibility and five fouls. If anyone used to say that to Coach Calhoun, I was like, hey, coach, bring me in. I love it.
Matthew Little here on the Rich Eisen show.
So you're a Seahawk fan tonight. Yeah, yeah. Big time football game, sir. It's a big game tonight. I mean, this is it.
This is it. They come up with this dub, and they're in first place, and all they got to do is just win out and get the one seed in the NFC. Which you never would have seen coming in this year. There's no way. The crazy thing is, because I have all these stats here for the benefit of having another job with the NFL network.
Mike McDonald, the head coach, since joining the squad, the team is eight and eight at home. And 13 and 2 on the road. That's crazy. That's the best road span. They have a thousand.
They're plus 1,000 in the yard differential on the road and plus 119 in point differential on the road. Those are all NFL best. And then at home, It's just different. That's where the 12s would normally stay cold. But just the minute it does revert to form there.
Yeah, the sky could be a little bit more. Last week, too. I think we kicked, what, six field goals to win the game? I mean, we could. I was like, yeah, yeah.
Which is crazy. You're like, what is that? And that defense. I was like, if you were in Vegas, you're like smashing that line because you're like, they're the best team in football. I would argue top five, right?
Top no question. Top three. And they're multi-dimensional. JSN. That dude is the man.
I mean, when you got rid of DK, you're like, what are you doing? This is crazy. And Lockett's gone. Like, what? We're just going back to JSN.
Be ready to be the number one. And he's number one, not only on the team, but the National Football League. He has. Yeah.
You know, he was on pace for a long time. I think he's off pace now to break the record single. He was on pace to 2,000 yards, but two of the last three games have been.
Well, it's kind of funny. It's like, he didn't get 100 yards receiving.
So that's an off game for him because it is an off game for him. He is averaging over 111 yards a game. He's funny.
So he's a guy, he doesn't want to take a direct hit. Right, we're talking about dart. You were talking about dart earlier, right? And this idea of like, what is the value add of that extra two yards? That's the one thing I want to say to Jackson Dart.
My kid loves Jackson Dart. I love Dart. I mean, between 17.
Okay. Three kids, 17. And he and I will sit and watch football. And you've got you know cam. You've got him, you've got the wide receiver, and like they're...
They're exciting as it gets. And the one thing I want to say to him is like, dude, two yards. Is not worth you missing four weeks. Correct. Like, it's just not worth it.
That's right. And he's so excited. He has a chance to be a real star, I think. No question. I think he already is one in the New York metropolitan area where, you know, you add together the Jets and the Giants wins, and you get half the Seahawks wins right now.
You know what I mean? And so I know you're in close to New York or New York. Not so much. But by the way, between, I mean, what is the deal with New York teams? They are just in a bad funk all the way across.
Well, I mean, all right, Mr. Mariner fan. Are you a Mariner fan? I'm not a Mariner fan. When you're a Dodger champion, I became a fan with Alex.
Yeah, I'm a Dodger fan. All right.
Go in for the close-up. Go in for the close-up. Dodger two-time champion. I was at the stadium yesterday picking up a gift. I will tell you.
Wait a minute. You were in Dodger Stadium yesterday. I was there yesterday. It's Christmas time, so I was going to pick it up. There was literally.
60 people at 2 o'clock in the afternoon at Dodger Stadium picking up gifts. What? Yes! Two-time champs. Picking up gifts.
Yes, the people love the Dodgers. Tommy, you love the Dodgers. I would go to Dodger Stadium now just to see what it's like to go in and out with no traffic. I can't even. That would be like, imagine the apocryphs head.
They're just going AY to wherever you want, fuck anywhere you want. Stroll in and do anything you want. The line is like two people to get a hat. But it happened. 10 minutes?
That must have been euphoric. It was so good. I've never even been to this side of the park. But you have to admit: best game seven, best sporting event. Yeah.
Maybe of my life this past year. This past year. This World Series was the best World Series I could say. Just in terms of the level of expectation going in, not knowing, and coming out. And the insanity of some of the games.
maybe the best of my lifetime. And I'm in my mid fifties. And I honestly, I've seen some great ones. I'm a Yankee fan.
So seeing the Yankees win for me was off the charts. But This seven-game World Series was insane. You tell me, am I off best one of your life or what? The Cubs Indians is pretty good. Uh Yankees uh Marlins was pretty good.
Yankees, Diamondbacks was pretty good.
Well, that one. I'm just thinking about seven-game series. It came down to kind of the last innings. You just pulled all those out of your. Is Orphis?
Yeah, I'm just kind of thinking. 97 Indians, Marlins is pretty good.
Now you got dates? Who are you? There were some good ones. There were some good ones. I'm just saying we've had a good seven-game World Series.
Stuff like that seventh game where, again, We've talked about it so often. But no, no, I'm not saying that I don't want to talk about it. I'll talk about this all day long because it was that great. For Isaiah Kiner Faleffa on third base, this is, by the way, after Rojas ties it. That in itself.
Right? Because you're like, okay, Shoe is coming up. There are going to be two outs. That's right. What a moom.
But they're going to walk him. And then you're like, oh God, for him? To hit that bomb and that probable star. Right. And also who he is.
And if you're not like a Dodger fan, you don't really know the role he plays. Like coaching Mookie, like he's like, he's the salt of the earth, great teammate. To be in that position, to hit that bomb, was Ridiculous and also just going back to Toronto Down with two games. Yes, correct. And you're like, oh, well, we've lost all the, we're done.
Because again, you know, I'm a Yankee fan. When Freddie Freeman hits an extra inning, backbreaking home run to win a World Series game, the Yankees folded. The Blue Jays came back and won the next two. Yeah, yeah. After that, game three that lasted twice as long as you know any other normal game.
That was crazy. That was crazy as well. By the way, it's just a little appetizer for what we saw later on in the World Series. And so game seven, Rojas ties it. Then Isaiah Kiner Faleffo is on third base with less than two outs.
He first, you know, slides in feet first. You have to go bit by bit, frame by frame to back up that call. And we spoke to Will Smith just a couple weeks ago, and he talked about how those few seconds were the longest hours of his life, where the entire season, Matthew, is in a replay machine. Who's winning the World Series could come out of instant. And it's depending on how you look at it, he's either out or safe.
I think he was out. There's no doubt in my mind he was out. That Will Smith's on the plate. No, I know that, but I think they would even have to admit it. Listen.
And then the next batter hits one in the left center field, and Kiki Hernandez falls down and gets knocked over by Pahez, who's in the game for whatever the hell reason. Dave Roberts decided to produce it. That was insane. That was insane. I mean, that's just the ninth inning of game seven.
And then we obviously saw what happened. And then, you know. Look at all the pictures. Every time a tear comes in my eye, I can feel the tear coming. It's so beautiful.
The tear comes to my eye here on the Rich Eisen Show, Matthew, because my friend across the way here, who likes to be referred to as the Rich Eisen Show audio executive, Mike Del Tufo of Livingston, New Jersey, right over there. And however, you think of anybody from New Jersey, he's that. I see it. We met earlier. I was obviously so happy.
And I've known Mike since NFL Network began in 2003. And so I've known him this long. And we would always chop up about the Yankees this, Yankees that. We share that. Put on your new hat.
Put on your new hat. My new hat? Put on your new hat. Oh, boy. Put on your new hat.
It's pretty terrible. It's not. Don't pick one, bro. Pick one. That's terrible.
What are you doing? Right now, I'm a Dodger fan. What am I wearing a Dodger hat? Let's keep it back on. Put it back on.
You're made to wear it in front of a real Dodger fan. That's disgusting. Thank you. Who are you? What your hand are you?
You must be from Jersey. This is like a transplanted organ that deserves rejection from the body of the Dodger fan. You're just... This guy. You're despicable.
No, I'm not. I'm not. You're just a sweetheart. I went high on that. Did you hear that?
But you didn't have to go high. You could have said it. No, that could have been full-throated. Dodger fan hat. There you go.
Way better. That's not acceptable, right? The Dodger hat's good. Dodger hat. I mean, she's a TJ Dodger hat.
That's how you get shot. No, no. This is a safety issue, Mike.
Somebody puts a cap in you. You're not talking about the thing. Fandom, he's talking about safety. I went to a couple of games and I wore a Dodger hat. This man's in a horror movie of the first variety.
He knows all about safety. Too many horror movies. A few of them. Oh, too many. Matter of fact, Scream.
Scream 7. I'm in it. I can't tell you all about it. The original, right? Can I come back for Scream 7?
This is my film. Please. I just like these interviews. Please. You might try to talk about sports than you could.
Hold on a minute. You could say, we're all that. Listen. Hey.
Okay. Scream. Scream 7, yeah. 7, right? Yeah, yeah.
Okay. And so you're in that, correct? I am. I'm having a bit of a moment right now. It's very fun.
Daredevil. Daredevil's coming up. Season Cross. Am I allowed to talk about other things? Season Cross is coming up.
It's on Prime Video. Daredevil is on Disney Plus, which is obviously the home of our show. It's good. That's a win. And so, all right.
Part of your filmography, too, as well. Two. Baseball movies. Yes. As well.
Summer catch. We spoke. Speaking of, I guess, horror movies. I know what you did last summer. We had Freddy Prince Jr.
here. Yeah.
He talked about the Summer Catch for a while. He was on. Yeah.
He's on Drive Time here in LA. And he's Mr. Wrestling Pod as well, just like TJ over there. Summer Catch.
So you were in New England doing all that stuff? Or no, you didn't do that? No, that was Movie Magic, North Carolina. Yeah.
But I did catch. You did catch. Yeah.
It was like, it was actually one of the best movies I've ever experienced, I've ever had. On a workday, I would either be playing baseball, acting, or hanging out with my wife. We had just gotten married at the time. Dude. And it was as good as it gets.
No kids yet, either, right? No kids. She really found me attractive at that point in our lives. I was great. She loved you.
She loved what you loved at you. 25 years, she has earned the right to sort of weighing her interests. Oh, my God. I've been trying to show every day. I'm like, this is all yours.
She is not impressed. The price. is right. This could be yours. And trouble with the curve as well.
Yeah, Clint Eastwood. Do you have any Clin East Woods stories? Yeah, I said to him at one point, you know, he only does one take. He's very famously only does one take. And so you'll, as an actor, come in and you'll watch your stand-in, do your blocking, right?
And then you sort of go and emulate him and nobody rehearses.
So the first time it comes out of your mouth is the first time, you know, is on film. And so it's a hair, it's a harrowing experience. I am not that smart. And I know that half the stuff that comes out of my mouth is going to be wrong.
Okay. But I said to him, you know, at some point, we're at lunch and I was like, you know what? 'Cause a lot of times in a movie You'll take multiple takes in case you need to change the intonation or the C needs some Zhu Jing, right? And I was like, well, what happens when you get in the cut? And you find that you don't have any choices.
And he looked at me and he kinda looked I would have changed the script. And looked at me like I was the dumbest man on the road now. And looked at me like I was like, just. An idiot.
So He would do one take. One take.
So he has zero options. I mean, he's he'll get like close-ups and stuff. Sure. Yeah, it was a really interesting thing. The other funny thing about that.
You were at lunch with him? Like, you're just lunch with me. I was lunch with Clin East. I was like, I couldn't understand. how you put together these incredible films with no options.
Right, and his whole thing is like, I would have fixed it in the script, and like looked at me like I was so dumb. And I am, fair enough. That's a fair assessment. Punk, go ahead, punk. The other thing that was funny is we there was a party one night, and we were watching the Final Four.
Justin Timberlake, who's in the movie, rented out this floor and in this bar in Atlanta, and it was packed. I didn't really know anyone on that floor, so I just kind of went and took a look around. and upstairs amongst like ten thousand kids. is Clint Eastwood and his driver and they're just watching the game. And none of these kids have any idea who these old dudes are.
And I was like, this is crazy, right? That none of them understand that here is a legend. Just chillin'. Do you remember what final four it was? I guess we could figure it in 2011, it must have been because the movie came out in 2012.
We even asked the Oracle over there.
So you're watching the final four in a bar that Justin Terrilli put it together. Yeah, it's Butler, Yukon, Kentucky, VC. I think it was. It was the terrible. No.
UConn won the year before... That's amazing. And so he's just sitting there anonymously because there's a generation of people in there. He's no idea. It was really interesting is that, you know, fame is such a It's such an interesting interaction.
Like, I've done movies now for 35 years. You know, the reality is that you only have impact on the people that care about what you do and the work that you've done. And sometimes it just never resonates. I mean, Five Nights at Freddy's, I could, you know, you'll never see it. Nobody in this room will ever see it.
But if there's, you will not see it. And I don't, you know, listen, but there's a world of kids out there that will wait nine hours in a line to shake my hand. Thank goodness. Yeah.
Well, right. Yeah.
Thank goodness. I mean, that's what keeps the roof over the head and the lights on, right? I mean, it's for sure. Yeah.
Next thing is. I'm just not much of a horror guy. You know what I mean? Like, I never, that's not my. I shouldn't say that to somebody who's here to promote a horror movie.
There he goes. There he goes. Out the gate, like he hopes tonight. But that is just, I, I, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on the edge of being clear for some of it, but I'm not a horror fan either.
Okay. But it works. We're together. It works for you. But it pays the bills.
But I would, I don't know. Obviously, you're a professional and you've been in films as you're in your fourth decade of being in films, as you just said. I would just fanboy Clint. I would just want to talk with him. Obviously, you talk with him about process.
That's one thing. But like. Like going down the road of unforgiven. You know what I mean? That movie is perfect.
It's a pretty fantastic movie. It's a perfect movie, you know? Like, that's the sort of thing I've done. It's one of those I've got to show my kid. Like, my kid's into film right now.
He's the 17-year-old. He's sort of coming up and. That's what I'm you know, we started with shock. That's it. That's one of the great.
That's his. That's his number one. I love that movie. That's his number one. Perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect. I think it's perfect. That's his number one. Unforgiven might be tough for the kids right now. Yeah.
It's tough for adults, bro. Yeah, it's a tough adult movie. I mean, it's dark. It is. It's pretty dark.
But it's perfect. But it is a perfect film. It's perfect. The funny thing is, so he's notoriously quick for shooting. He shoots really fast.
And so flags of our fathers. Right. Every single day he shot, he finished before lunch. Wow.
So you know, and if you don't if people aren't familiar with film and television, you you know, we regularly do 14 to 15 hour days. And it it can be grueling at times as a job. I mean, you're out you're not out there digging ditches, but you know, 15 hours stuck doing the same scene is, you know. Has its own so if you talk, if you do a Clin Eastwood movie, you can set a tea time. You're playing golf.
You're playing golf. You just thought about the same thing. And I think that's the idea. I really think that's the idea. Cunt's there for a good time, not a long time.
Yeah, yeah. That's better than being in a Clipper email chain with somebody. I'm so sorry. That's so funny. He says, I wonder, did you remember we were on that Clipper email chain?
Like, why wouldn't he? Like, how many Clipper email chains exist? No, I said I wasn't sure. I said, I'm not sure if he'll remember me because it's been so long since. You're memorable.
Every day, dude. Every single day. Every single day. I haven't seen you in 10 years, and yet here I am. My dreams come true.
Every now and then I'll pop the curve in, watch it on Tubi. The curve. Oh, my lord. I'm not leaving, by the way. Who's on next?
Just you. It's the end of the show, actually. What are you talking about? We're going long. Do you want to do higher register?
Yes. Yes. You want to stick with us? I have nowhere to go in here. What else would I want to do?
Okay, so here's what we're going to do: we're going to take a break.
Okay. No, we'll take a break. Was that part of the subject matter? Keith Cosmo, Lob City, bro. Lob City.
Yeah, the Benjamin email was sent with the urgent tag. Like, we're going to mark it urgent. Eric Pike Kowski in a build.
So huge, by the way, we had great players.
So huge. I mean, go ahead. No, no, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to lay out what's happening. Because if you want to stay, please, we're not kicking you out the door.
It's our last segment. We're going to do our weekly Thursday segment higher register. Each one of us have already pre-planned it, so we've come up with it. A statement about this upcoming National Football League week, or if you want, you could take whatever sporting event you want and you come up with an opinion, a take that you have to go higher register to believe. Up here, okay, yeah.
You got to go up here. Oh my God. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?
Should we give just a quick example so we can give Matthew some sort of thing?
Well, what was your one last week? Oh, you know, yeah, I think Shadua Sanders is going to do well in Chicago. Right. Didn't work. No.
You know what I mean? But no matter how high you risk. I think it's going to turn out okay for him. Because you always have these conversations. Right there.
You get a chance. We got a guy who does voices, too. Zoinks.
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Progressive.com. Matthew Lillard is here on the Rich Isaac Show hanging with us to do higher registers. Before we do that, you want to pop that up, Mike Hoskins, because we started the show about Puka Nakua, what he said about officiating, and then there was a touchdown celebration that his. Live streaming hosts was teaching him to try and knock out if he scored tonight on Thursday night football. and Puka Nakua on his Instagram.
Said, when I appeared the other day on a social media live stream, it was suggested to me to perform a specific movement as part of my next touchdown celebration. At the time, I had no idea this act was anti-Semitic in nature and perpetuated harmful stereotypes against Jewish people. I deeply apologize to anyone who was offended by my actions, as I do not stand for any form of racism, bigotry, or hate of any other group of people. And interesting, he's got the stand-up to Jewish hate. Logo at the bottom there, as you know, that is Robert Kraft's organization that is so crucial in this day and age.
And I'm glad to see that from Puka. Right, two thumbs up, Puka. And that's exactly what I was hoping to see, and that happened already.
So I just wanted to point that out. Tie that one off before we get to Thursday Night Football between the Rams and the Seahawks. Who's uh I guess, should I call you a number one fan just because you're sitting here, Matthew Lillard? It was way bigger fans.
Okay. Same right out of the middle episode. One of them. What are you 13? Number 13, then, if you are the 12?
Is he 12a? Oh my god. 12. Jeffrey D. Morgan's calling right now to get that.
Jeffrey D. Morgan. He's like, wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, he's a big fan. Did you just go higher register?
Just saying that.
Okay, here we go. Matthew Lillard. Matthew Lillard gets it. He gets it. All right.
It is time to wrap up this show with our Thursday higher register. Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. Here's a chance.
The Rich Eisen shows. But there could be. Higher Bridgester, take of the week. All right, Christopher, what do you got over there? You know, we've been talking about this team a while.
They're the number one seed in the AFC.
So, yeah, we should be talking about the Denver Broncos. And they got a big game against Jacksonville this week, and I think. Jacksonville beats Denver. And after they do, we've got to take the Jaguars seriously, Super Bowl contenders.
Okay. I think it's time. You really do, huh? I think it's time. So far, they're not a Super Bowl contender too?
No, I don't think so.
So if they beat the Broncos. Man, now they're in that conversation. Higher register means you're still being a little bit disrespectful. You're not sure. I don't think I'm being you notice.
I'm not going higher register on that. TJ, what do you got? This is tough for TJ because he's always lower register. This is, yeah, it's so sentry. All right, so you know, it's weird that Matthew Lillard's sitting there staring at me after me watching him so much.
Now he's watching me, and I hope I get this right.
So we've been talking about these guys a lot, and that's the Pittsburgh Steelers, right? Yeah.
And I tell you what, after what I saw last week, and I put a lot of thought into this, all five minutes. Not only will the Steelers take the Lions out this week, they're running the table the rest of the season. Which means they would win the AFC North, and then after everything, who knows how far they would go. I hear you. I hear you.
I'm going to also go for a rest of the season situation, even beyond. When you look at the standings right now. At who's sniffing it, which is the phrase of The Rich Eisen show for the teams that are outside of the playoffs looking. It's always in the hunt when you see it on other shows. We call it sniffing it, sniffing the playoffs.
Same with me in the AFC. The Colts Ravens are sniffing it right now in the AFC. In the NFC, there's three teams currently sniffing it with the Dallas Cowboys and the Lions and the Panthers. I'm saying it's my higher register. At the end of the day, I think multiple teams currently sniffing it are making the playoffs.
Current, multiple sniffing it teams are making the playoffs at the end of the day. More than one. All right, you have the floor, Matthew Lillard. Yeah, the um going high register. The Seahawks Rams play tonight.
Yes, they do. We lost the last game with four turnovers. That's not our game plan. We don't usually roll like that. We it came down to a kick to miss the field goal after four turnovers.
Tonight, we're gonna win the turnover battle. And then we're gonna win the game, and then we're gonna win the Super Bowl.
Okay, wow. She went lower register for the last part. But you think, you know, because sometimes Sam Donald might not have a turnover problem tonight. He's got it, man. That sounded like Shaggy, dude.
Dude, don't turn over to Donald, dude. Dude. Oh, boy. Okay, Raggy. Seahawks.
Oh, baby. That's how I register. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show Podcast. You can watch and listen to The Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app, The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
