Reactions from WWE Survivor Series: War Games 2025, who was that masked man in black, the return of Liv Morgan, and more!

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What's up, man? How was your Thanksgiving? Man, it was glorious, bro. Hung out with some friends that are like family. You know, didn't have a lot of plates, though.

I went kind of light. Yeah. I had a real big piece of turkey to start with. Yeah. You know, had the gravy, which was bomb.

Had the mashed potatoes that was bomb. And then the mac and cheese and all that. And uh. Yeah, it was good. Shout out to Mila Kunis.

You might know her as a top Hollywood actress. I know her as my friend's wife who can throw down in the kitchen. And she did her thing. Oh, nice. Shout out to Mila Kunis.

I had a very, very family-based Thanksgiving. I loved it. You know, I had a good time. All my my favorite people in the world were there. And I mean, I wasn't there, but you know.

Can you can I tell him a story? My bad. Can I tell him a story?

So, anyway, um, but yeah, you know, I'm on my weight loss thing, so I didn't have as many plates as I would. Like to have, I understand, but um, you know, it's sacrifices we make for my superficial job to look pretty and also you know, health and things like that. But it's the holidays, uh, yeah, we won't be here for you know a long time long time, like unlike Jackson Dart on the Giants, who appears to want to be here for a good time, man. Because that dude, but like when you think about him and Scatterbo on the same team, it's just like they're just making these rough giants, and you know, I it's not my team, so who gives a damn? But they're fun, though, yeah.

But not as fun. As Survivor Series. Was it fun to you? It was very fun. It was very fun.

And then.

Something weird happened. And I had to call you to make sure that it happened because I swear I was watching Survivor Series and I was having a good time. But then I must have blacked out because I swore somebody from the shadow realm. jumped across the the gate. And And cost.

The face is the match, and then disappeared. With no Answer to who the hell it was or anything.

So I know I must have been on some sort of.

So, some wave, or I know I wasn't on any substances.

So, like, it just, I know that didn't happen, right?

Well, first of all, you just jumped to the very end of the entire thing. You asked me how I felt.

Well, I thought you might have started at the beginning, like most good stories started at the beginning, and now you're jumping to the end. I just want to make sure that we all saw it happen. I saw a cat that was, to quote Lil Kim, dressed in all black like the Omen. You know? Climbed up the cage, stood there for a second, you know, took in all the situation.

I was kind of like, whoa, who sought this brother on right now? I say, brother, I don't know. He could have been anybody. He could have been Asian, could have been white, could have been Mexican. I don't know.

I call him brother. But I call my brother son because he shined like one. But. You stand there, you're like, what's going on? And then he hits a version of a curb stop.

And then everyone looks surprised. And next you know, he's Peter Parker's up the side of the cage. Yep. You know, like he had just finished with Bonesaw McGraw. Look that up.

Shout out to the macho man, Randy Savage. And uh Made his way out the cage.

Next thing you know, Punk's getting speared by Braun Breaker, une de trois. That's French, for those who don't know. And uh the Hill team. Wins The main event? Yeah.

I call bullshit. I mean, why would you? But I mean my God, like... I had such a good time. Ladies and gentlemen, let me I don't want to interrupt, but I'm going to.

Let's address that. A lot of people It's the internet, and you and I try to be. The Maybe not the most positive people on the internet, but we try to be as positive. As we can, we're more than a lot of people, the wrestling creators. I don't even think we've ever called ourselves wrestling creators.

No, I don't want to start now, but man, there was a lot of people, but I guess some people just ain't gonna be happy about anything. No, no, not at all. And I was having an amazing time watching Survivor Series. I, and we will break down everything, but just for my. analogy, I guess that's what it is.

It was like I got an amazing appetizer, you know, one that like you could low-key be an entree, one of them. I want to pay them. You know, and it was like, I had a great time with the women's match and all the oohs and ahs that were happening there. Last legend looked like a monster. You had EO hitting my favorite spot of her doing that trash can that I've ever had.

And you knew it was coming. They put her logo on the trash can. You knew it was coming. Yeah, I mean, it's and for her to do a swanton, I was like, oh man, I'm eating good. Then you got.

First course intercontinental title match with John and Dom. And you and I know that we both kind of felt like, listen, that's Dom Mysterio's title.

So, and it's also like, why aren't you giving it to John? He's about to be out of here in two months. But anyway.

So I had a great time with that match. Once again, we will break everything down. And then they. Cleanse the palate a little bit with a clean match between Stephanie Vaquer and Nikki Bella, where nothing crazy happened. It was just a clean one-on-one wrestling match.

There were no shenanigans.

So, a little palate cleanser for the entree, and you overcooked my steak. What the hell was that? Like It was all good. It was all good. And then I like.

This has to have such a payoff, dude, because you had it. It was, everything was going great. The the match looked exactly how it was supposed to. And then it's just a wrench, a wrench out of nowhere. It just felt like you're doing too much cooking.

You overcooked the steak. And it really messed the meal up. And so I'm you know, it's Once again, we're gonna people are speculating and we have to wait and we have to see where this is gonna go. But I just didn't feel like that needed that. It's not like this Survivor series or this War Games had any real stakes.

It wasn't like, you know, this is for some number one contendership, or, you know, if this side wins, that side has to, none of that. There was nothing. It was just, let's put all of our favorite toys together and smash them together. And I was fine with that. And it could have, I guess they're, you know, from a business standpoint, it makes it so my baby faces didn't necessarily lose clean, but it's a War Games match.

None of it is clean. It's all weapons. It's all sh like shenanigans happening. It's a 10-man match. Like the bull crap can happen and it just still be a clean pin.

But like, I guess at the end of the day, Cody, Roman, Jay, and Punk, and Jimmy, like, they all. We'll have this to fall back on that, like, nah, y'all didn't, y'all added in a sixth guy out of nowhere to beat us.

So, I mean, I guess that's what we're falling back on, but. It just didn't feel good. And I guess wrestling isn't supposed to always make you leave happy. I wasn't in the building, thanks ESPN. But I wasn't in the building.

So it's, I guess I'm glad I got to watch from the comfort of my own home, but my goodness. I just need. This dude that was dressed in all black To pay off. Right. I don't know how much I loved it.

It was star studded. We know that. You had 10 of the biggest stars. Um I don't want to be the guy who's comparing it to Blood and Guts because that's what so many people did, right? And they're two different companies, it's two different match styles.

You know, but it is kind of hard not to when you watch them both, right? And you see happened a week apart. The blood and guts and what that was. But I get it. Like a lot of people, maybe you don't want so much blood.

But as an aside, do you remember a few years ago when WWE? Banish the blood, banned blood, and then every hell in the cell, every elimination chamber, people would complain. There's no blood, there's no blood. And then AEW starts getting blood, and then people start complaining. Why is there so much blood?

Like, again, people just can't decide what they want, right?

So that part's Really weird to me.

So I don't want to compare the two. But it's hard not to. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's really hard not to when you watch both matches.

But I'll uh I'll disassociate and just take this on what it is. It's just like, I don't know, man. There is just something missing. Mm. with this you know everyone comes in and i i gotta say something real quick when Yeah.

Roman starts to come to the cage because he's coming down the aisle and Brock got out. You know, a lot of people online were complaining about that should have been a disqualification. They said so in the match, but like, People aren't listening, right? People just want to talk, but they don't want to listen. Michael Cole made it very clear.

The match does not start. Until everyone's inside of the cage. He said, once that happens and you leave, you are automatically disqualified and the match is over. Match hadn't started when Brock left the cage. The match only starts when the last man or woman gets in the cage and they ring the bell.

So that's one thing that you kind of get annoyed reading all the comments about. It's like, pay attention, then you'll see this. You know, uh the the the the doomsday device onto Broadbreaker when he fell and landed on his neck, that was that was a little frightening. Yeah, they took him off camera for a long time, and so you're kind of wondering. And I saw fan footage of like you could see they had the door open, they were checking on him.

Yeah, and you could tell you could see punk. Constantly looking over. Yeah, trying to make sure he was okay.

So it was good to see that they had each other's safety. I mean, it was a fine match. Lesnar got in there, he did his thing, of course. You know, those types of matches, everyone gets their moment to shine. Yeah.

You know, so Brock comes in, he has fives, everybody. You know, Bronson Reed, our last guest, comes in and he tsunamis everyone and kind of sets the tone, and he just devastated everyone. Yeah. Um, Yeah, I don't know. It was fine.

You know, I don't think I'll sit back and replay. This match, in particular, the way I have done other matches in the past, it was fine. It was good. You know, I'm happy no one got hurt. That's always the big thing.

I hope glad everyone was able to walk out pretty much healthy. But yeah, I guess the the thing we got to talk about is the the man dressed in all black because that was the story and you kind of have to wonder when you have all the star power when you have all of these stars why do you need someone else to come in and and Interfere, you know, so I'm hoping that this is a really big payoff, right? Yeah. And, you know, now Monday Night Raw comes, I, you know, I want to jump ahead, but I'll jump ahead. You had all everyone saying, you know, well, Who was the guy in black?

And you know, we saw Seth Rollins walking around backstage, but he's not medically cleared and blah, blah, woo-woo. That I tell you what, man, I'm very lenient when it comes to wrestling. And you know, I like Seth Rollins, but if it turns out that this was Seth Rollins, this would make. Less than zero cents. Yeah.

Here's a guy, like, you got hurt, you got destroyed, you got booted out of your own creation, you lost your belt, but then you're going to come back months later to help them. Yeah, so let's eliminate him. You cannot be. The man in black, you know what I mean? Like, that's just my feeling on it.

Yeah, he, no, there's no way in hell. That is Seth Rollins. Right indeed. Aggravated, I have been with the WWE in a long time. Because, like, what?

What would be the point? What? What are we talking about then? And it uh you know, there's people that are speculating. Obviously Austin Theory is the number one suspect.

I even saw somebody say that. What if it was Carmelo Hayes? And I started looking at the Carmelo, I think. But then. For Paul Heyman to be like, I don't even know who that was.

Now I'm really like. Confused, you know. I've seen names like Theory, I've seen Montez Ford, I even saw Speed. Yeah, first of all, Speed's what, 5'5? Like, that dude clearly had some size to him.

It wasn't speaking, but here's another thing that I think I said to you when we were talking on the phone: just because the person who made the athletic climb into the cage and jumped out, that doesn't mean that that's going to be the actual person, right? You know what I mean? Like, that could have just been like, all right, I mean, Chad Gaba was a Grande Americano.

Well, you don't know that. You don't. Because Garney America is still wrestling and Chad Gable's not. That's true.

So you can't say that. I apologize. Yeah, you should. Yeah, man, so that's one thing. And then I tweeted something to you, raw.

You were like, so they're just not going to tell us who the man in black is. Did you see my response? I was like, well, how about this? What if? That was just somebody in the crowd that did that on their own.

And everyone just stood back, like, oh, okay, what's going on? And then a fan just jumped in, climbed the fence. They need to sign his ass immediately. Just see how quick he got a break. But I'm saying now creatives got to come up with a storyline.

Yeah, right. Because that's the only explanation, right? Yeah. Completely in like. Ninja out, completely in black.

Moved way quicker than any of the older superstars that some of y'all are suggesting. I've seen people suggest it's Chris Jericho with respect to Chris Jericho. Yeah, he ain't. I've seen you, buddy. You ain't moving up that damn cage.

Not in 2025, 1998, Chris Jerry. Oh, yeah, by all means. But it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Something else I want to bring up. How did you feel about the uh second yeet moment.

Okay, so you know, a lot of fans again questioning this, right? Yeah. But for Anarchy in the arena, like AEW literally. Uses music.

Now, maybe that's the difference is because they truly use the music to further along the match, but it still doesn't matter. They're still stopping and playing music during a match. Guess what? Loved it. Didn't care.

Here's what else I think about that. You know, when the Royal Rumble or something, when you've got a countdown, someone's coming, what happens the last 10 seconds?

Someone just gets put in a corner. They're getting boots put to them. You're just kind of waiting anyway, right?

So, who cares? People keep complaining about Jay doing the second intro. Here's the deal, and like I keep saying this: the only people that are complaining about Jey Uso are people online because we've been to shows, multiple shows. That dude's pop is as big, is bigger than anyone else's pop. That dude gets more cheers than anybody.

If The fans hated this. They wouldn't cheer again for it before he does it, right? If everyone just sat silent, he wouldn't have to go like that, right?

So Obviously people enjoy it. It was 15, maybe 20 seconds. And if you didn't enjoy him sitting on top of the cage, that was, you know, and it got people hyped. I didn't hear any of the crowd die down. The crowd was going.

And then what happened? You heard the fear. Like, you want to talk about an entire arena? Yes. Like, punk coach.

Everyone's just like, Jimmy, you get that shot. You're just like, oh, okay, it's about to get real because you know the boogeyman's coming. Not that boogeyman, but a monster.

Well, not that monster, but someone that you don't want to have to deal with is coming. The beast incarnate. Yeah. So that, that, that transfer from the, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

No. Yeah. Like that moment. It's a great moment. That's a great moment.

I don't understand people like. I don't know. I didn't mind it. Listen, bro, just quit your. Like.

You know what you're gonna get. How many times can you be disappointed if you know it's gonna happen? Right. Shut up. Like, you know, it's just.

It has now become a It's it's the same thing that really happened with Bianca. Like Everybody knows what type of star Bianca Belair was going to be. And then all of a sudden, I don't.

nowhere It just seemed like the internet Turned on Bianca. Oh, you know why. And it was just like, we're tired of it. She's overpushed. She's stale.

She should cut her hair and go hit. Like, what are you talking about? I know what you probably sit there and you do on your video game when you play WWE Universe or whatever the hell mode that you do where you get to be GM and all of that. It don't happen that fast in real life. And if when it works, when them dollars are still there, it's gonna be there.

And Jey Uso doing that, dog, in a match that is chaos. And by the way, hasn't started yet. The match hadn't started yet. You know, Brock is about to come in and clean the house, right?

So, would it have really mattered if his ass was off the top of that cage or not? You know, Brock got to come in and get his moves off. We know this, but yet it still bother you. You just wanna be mad when you see Jey Uso. And Jey Uso, tell you the truth, has lost.

What, three or four big matches in a row now.

So, like, we're like, what is it? It's just him. You just don't want him there. I don't know what to tell you, dog. It's not real.

It's a facade. It's entertaining. I'm entertained. I laughed my ass off. I was like, there's no way he's about to do it right now.

This is ridiculous. And then Punk doing the guitar wheelchair. Like, come on. Oh, bros. Got to have a little fun with it.

Damn. The match ain't even don't start until Roman gets there.

So they're not even in a position where, like, you can win right now. Let 'em do it! Let 'em get it off!

So what? That was that part. Let me talk about the things I did like. Yeah, let's not be like them. Let's talk about these ladies.

The way that I describe the ladies' match, because you're going to compare it to blood and guts. It just happens. But what I yeah, but you don't want to do that here because there's a clear but the way that I described it was this was a when a rapper gets a hot 16 off and they don't cuss That's what that was.

So, this is like clean. This is like the Rakim of wrestling. It was just like a, it was like, I don't think Rock Him's ever cursed on an album, to be honest with you. Damn. Yeah, believe it or not.

That's solid. And that's the God Rakim. Yeah, that's solid. But like, yeah, you get you a hot verse and you don't have to cuss. Yeah, you cold.

And that's what that match kind of felt like to me. It wasn't, didn't nobody bleed or nothing like that, but it still was a fun, entertaining match. And I mean It was a good time. It was a good time. Everybody got their moves off.

Asuka, starting off with Asuka and Charlotte. That was like, oh, all right. We will yeah, we're doing big dogs first. You know what I mean? Same thing.

Yeah, and you didn't really you couldn't really put a a finger on what order everything was gonna go out when when people came out, 'cause I think Becky was the next person out. And it was a Yeah, I had a good time during this match. There were some great spots in it from everybody, but Last Legend. Look like a monster. She did.

And there's nothing that doesn't say. world champion about what she did. And I know she has to go through, you know, the trial by fire that they all have to go through. A little time in the tag division. Little bit on the mid card.

Then you get your big girl belt. But man, oh man Everybody better wanna Get Last Legend on your friends list because she's coming to kick ass. And she had a little hardware on her hand. She had that ring on her. It wasn't the ring, but she did have her, you know, congratulations to her and Trick.

They got engaged over the Thanksgiving holiday right in front of the turkey. That was a direct quote that trick Willie sent you and I are in our group chat. Right in front of the turkey. And but yeah, Last Legend was a star. She was a star.

You know, I liked it. It was fun. Again, if he. When you stop yourself from comparing to the blood and guts in this one, um. I, you know, the fact that, you know, AJ's music hits and Becky is like, Becky Lynch doesn't fear anybody, but she's terrified of AJ Lee, which is amazing.

So she doesn't let AJ in the case.

So she has to climb up and over and into the ring and, you know, they get it started. And then, you know, you know, Rhea come out with her mask and the black kendo stick. You know what I'm saying? The black John. You know, and uh, it was fun.

You know what you're getting, right? You're getting EO coming off the top of the cage this year in the custom. Trash can. Yeah. So she came to the ring with the let with the lid, you know, did some work with that.

Uh, that was a funny moment, though. First of all, you have AJ, who's probably 5'3, and EO, who's like 5'3, and AJ's with the trash can trying to, you know, she just can't reach it. And Rhea comes over, like, Do you need some help? And AJ's like, Yes, please.

So she gets her on the shoulder. EO's able to get the trash can.

Now, the one thing that people are complaining about, and I and I can understand this, it's not like I don't understand some of your complaints. I completely do. The fact that there was about 40 seconds, 30 seconds, everyone just standing there waiting. That annoys me too.

Sometimes when wrestlers do that, like, I I don't know how you... Change that, maybe just have them keep brawling, maybe time it out beforehand. But yeah, that is a little weird when you're just kind of standing there. Positioning, waiting, because EO's got to make sure she's straight up there. Like, you know what I mean?

Before she takes, because that's. You know, you're diving and you can't see where you're going.

So but yeah, I you know, I can understand that complaint. You know, it took you know, it's a long time to to sit and be stagnant until she comes off the top, but. Yeah. Absolutely. We also I ain't never had to do the shit ourselves.

That part. You know? But yeah, on the outside looking in, that does take a long time to get that off. Plus, When Eo's up there. She has to pose for the crowd up too.

Got to get that emote off a little bit. But uh for her to do a swanton, that was insane. Yeah. You couldn't land in a more perfect spot. Um, and then it led to the finish.

uh Becky being uh the ultimate villain that she is. Becky Lynch is in her bag right now. Yeah, I gotta say, Becky might have been MVP because she's in her bag. She took the L. She took the pin.

There was a point where Alexa must have punched her in the face like eight times in a row. Becky was like, you know, she was doing the job. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you got to respect that.

You know, a star of her magnitude. And we're not just saying she's a star. A lot of different people say she's a star. You know, Bleach Reports, Sports Illustrated, you know, is here on ESPN NCW. But yeah, someone of that star power for her to, you know, basically.

you know, take the L willingly and Put all the other women over because they all got a little piece of Becky at one point. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, uh, props to her for that. Right. She is in her bag.

She's in her Becky Trump era. And it's kind of interesting. And it's really funny. And it it it's funny now because if you really paid attention to her tweets, You kind of saw this evolving, you know, with the nicknames, you know, and just dissing people and taking credit for, you know, her team that, you know, with the highest, you know, it's just like she, she's, you're right, she's in her back. But I also want to point out.

You saw who the referee was. Uh yes, Jessica Co what's her name for Jessica? Does she have a camping No, yeah, some fast count car. No, no, no, that's what they did on that's what Baron Wade Barrett called her. I forget, but yeah, Jessica Car.

who really is Like her nemesis, her mortal enemy, right? Yeah, it's crazy. Every time that Beggie Lynch has taken an L. Jessica Carr has been the damn referee. Look, I remember being at WrestlePalooza and I was yelling at Jessica.

I was like, Jessica, you got to do something. You got to get, it was the mixed tag match. You remember, like, Jessica, you got to take control of it. Yeah, awesome.

So people don't, a lot of people might not know, Jessica Carr also wrestled. She same shoulders? I'm going to give a shout out to Dawn Bowie right now because I just did something that Dawn told me to watch out from doing on that angle.

So Dawn, I was paying attention. But yeah, people don't know. Jessica Carr actually wrestles. She's wrestled under a mask. She's, I think, currently, I think.

Doing maybe some independence, maybe doing some work on the low down in there. Yeah, she might have been the mass man. We don't know, you know, but I obviously this is going towards Becky and Jessica having a match very soon. That would be amazing.

So, yeah, I mean, you see that that's where this is going. That would be sick.

So, yeah, we'll see that. We'll see where Becky Trump takes everything. But, yeah, at the end of the day, you know, the good guys got the win. Yeah. So, that was really a great way, I think, to kick off Survivor Series.

And, like you said, um. Lash and Nye as a tag team is, ooh, that's not good. It's not fair. You know what I mean? It's really not.

It's not fair. Like, dude, I'm scared of when you look at Lash Legend, I'm scared of her and the Rumble. Like she should have at least nine eliminations in the Rumble. Like she's coming in. A force and also.

Um Her music If you listen to the drums with her music, that's for sure uh Chickenhead by 36 Mafia. 100%. Go ahead and listen to Lash Lester Music and tell me that's not Chicken Head by 36 Mafia. Here's the other thing about Lash, though. You know, a couple years ago in NXT, Lash slammed Otis.

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In my opinion, like Lash should have been gone then. You can't just, as a woman, slam a 300. 50-pound Otis as easily as she did. And I thought that was a moment: like, all right, Lash is gonna get her star-making turn right now. You know, they kept her in NXT, still didn't bring her up, which I still don't understand how you have a powerhouse like that.

Um and and you don't A rocket on her, but you know, she's there now, right? She's called up. She gets to do her thing now, um and and we'll see what they do with her. You know, we'll see where she goes. I'm not really sure.

Like, I. I want to say I have confidence. that you know she'll she'll be pushed the right way but I just don't know. You never know. You just never know.

I'll tell you right now, it's black as hell in that women's division. But when uh. I always, you know, we know that things were kind of headed towards this. Bianca versus Jade. Mm-hmm.

That's what everyone's looking for, right? I don't know. I might want to see Bianca versus Lash Legend. That right there is box office. If I could figure out how to get him in a triple threat, hey Lash and Jade is, you know, like I just know I I just listen, I just both of them are are Uh um heels right now.

So, I know the only baby face, this is by the way, a full black community talk. I'm so sorry. But, like, the baby face that we got right now is Bianca. And we're waiting for Superwoman to come back. That damn finger is just not healing properly.

Well, plus there's no reason for it to come back now. It's the end of the year. No, no, no. Much like Hollywood's going to shut down in a day or two. You know, I guess I'm Well, you know how Hollywood gets.

You get to a point where. Oh, those are the holidays. Yeah. Well, don't scare me like that. You know what I bet.

Every, every week. I don't be looking at the news. No, after the first week of December, it's like you can't get nobody on the phone. Everyone's leaving for vacation. It's like, we'll see y'all in January.

Oh, I got scared to death. No, not really. I clinched my toes so tight, these LeBron. But. Yeah, that the I don't think we're gonna see B until the Rumble.

No real reason to bring her back, especially if there's no real storyline for her right now. Most importantly, that finger's got to heal. Like she said, it's not the knuckle, right? It's in between the knuckle, or I don't know. It's just, they hurt Bianca Belair, and I don't like it.

I don't like it.

So, yeah, she's been out for a minute. Just think about things. Let's think about who's like. Bianca, we haven't seen Bianca in forever. Jacob fought too.

Haven't seen him in forever.

Now we lost Penta. Randall. Yeah, there's going to be a moment. Where a lot of these people start coming back and it's gonna be so Dick on the roster. This is like Like John always talks about how, like, the murderer's role he had to find a way to stand out in.

And you look at that, you know, then that early 2000s roster, and it was nuts. We're getting real close to that right now, dude. It's like some names everywhere now. And there are people missing, and when the people missing come back, It's gonna look crazy. And then, and then you got people, you got over.

That was trick. That was my next point. Then the other thing is, you've got NXT cats who are ready. Ricky trick Oba. Ethan Like, that was just off the top of my head of guys that are ready, not to mention the women that are on their way up.

Like, the talent pool is deep. It's deep. And it's going to get to a point where we can't be having, there's no reason why I've seen two Raws in a row where I didn't see Stephanie Vacare the champion of Raw. Yeah, that doesn't. And also, another thing.

Why the hell is Stephanie Vacare not showcased in the WrestleMania women's dinner thing that y'all did? She's a champion. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. That's. Unless.

But we'll get to someone who came back, Liv Morgan. Right. So if you saw, there was another commercial where they. Her part was added, so I guess they wanted to wait. until she came back before they showed that version of the commercial.

And then and and you don't show the the raw women's chin. Doesn't make sense. That doesn't add up. And like I said, this is second raw in a row. I ain't seen her.

She's just like, I don't know what's going on with that, but the main point of the conversation, that was a little side, little pin note. But like There's rosters, it's going to be times where it won't make sense for you to not show that mid-card title or the tag titles again because you're going to have so many people that like they got to get their shine.

So they got to figure this out. Because I know for uh it really feels like I will say AJ Styles and Dragon League did have a good match. They did have a good match with the new day. But the tag team division feels a little off. The way that they ended Raw sewing off all the women.

That looked Action-packed, and like that tag, though, that tag team division looks insane all of a sudden. And so it's just like, it is a special time. And I really want them to be able to capitalize on things like. Lash Legend and push people the right way because it's star. Power everywhere that you look right now.

It's a great time. to be a fan of WWE, but a superstar of WWE especially. The problem with that is there's only so many spots. There's only so many spots. There's so much talent.

You know, a lot of times people want to knock people and say, oh, you're mid card. Guess what, folks? There is literally. If I would have thought about this before I started to say it, but it just hit me. There may be.

12 main event spots. For men and women? 12 people that you would consider main eventors? Yeah. Everyone else is in the mid-card.

And there's nothing wrong. Like, people try to use that as a knock. Like, oh, he's a mid-card. Yeah, guess what? A mid-card is going to keep you employed for 10 to 15 years and buy yourself a house and put your kids through private school.

Like, people got to stop acting like. Calling someone mid-card is A knock on them. There's only X amount of main event spots. You know, the main, let me think. You got Cody.

You got Roman. You got Drew. Let's just say that. I got the list right here, my brother. You tell me.

All the formers. Brock Lesnar is a main event star. Yo. Drew McIntyre. By the way, just a side note that was crazy.

That Survivor Series was the first time that Brock Lesnar had a partner. Since 2004. That's wild. What? What are we talking about?

That, my God, I just told you. I was like, I can't remember the last time I seen him tag with anybody. 2004. All right. Yeah, he doesn't really need to.

Come here Shaq. But yeah, so look, out of the 10 guys. In the men's Uh War Games Max. We love Big Jim. I think he might be the only one that you would consider maybe not a main event guy because he hasn't been put in that position.

But Lesnar, McIntyre, Logan Paul, who they put in the main event spot. Logan Paul, if I'm not mistaken, has gone for the title two times. Braun. I I think that Bronson Reed is close to being in that main event area. Then you got Roman Cody Punk.

And both Uzo, so you know, there's 10. Then you have what Randy, so that would that would make 10. Um Who else? Yeah. I guess Sammy, you can consider Sammy.

What about LA Knight? LA Knight, I guess you would consider him. He's gone for the title. Point being, though, Gunther, there ain't that many spots, is what I'm saying. Everyone's going to be a main event guy.

You need the mid-card. And then I need to fill out the show. Exactly. First and foremost. And then like, dude, you know, we've gotten so many great.

Just go back in the vault and look at some of the WrestleMania matches that we got from the mid-card. Yeah, like, come on. Like, what? No, don't disrespect. Don't act like med card is a is some side thing.

Yeah, some. Disrespectful moniker on her. Yeah, so there you go. Let's talk about the IC match. The last time is now it's coming.

You know, we mentioned last week that. John Cena, obviously. thinks very, very highly of Dominic Mysterio. Right, obviously. Dom's gonna have what, three of his last four matches.

Yeah. John, three of John's last four matches, right?

So, if you're not a Dominic Mysterio fan, if you're not on board, then I would suggest. You either stop watching or get on board because this kid's future is bright. It's only going to keep climbing. He's got the John Cena rub. Yeah.

He was chosen to have these matches. John only has X amount of dates left, as we know. There's one left now. Three of them. Dominic was in.

And so that brought us up to this tag team match where Dom and Cena battled it out. And I got to say, To me, it seemed like one maybe the big winners of this whole thing. We're the judgment day. Yeah. Think about it.

They all got it. Cena. Touched. We're not going to do the pause on this one. He touched.

Everybody in the judgment day. We're talking the hard R's got a moment with them. Yeah. Finn and JD got a moment with him. The returning live got a moment with him.

And Tom got a moment with him. Every member of that Judgment Day was involved in that. They got a little bit of a John Cena rub.

So, my thought now is: this Judgment Day ain't going nowhere anytime soon, man. Bro, and like Just think about like that was that was Edge's crew. That was Edge's crew. He put them together and got booted up. There were whispers of that crew not working.

Like, there were whispers of, like, we're not sure if it's going to work out. Look at that crew now. And like a main staple on that roster. And in wrestling lore, now that is a staple that you got to talk about. You have to talk about the judgment day.

It was one point where everybody in the staple had gold. Yes. Like, you got to talk about the judgment day with the greats almost. If they keep going like this, dude, and they have been. I mean, they've shifted members.

over and over they in in like To get the rub from John, number one. Dominic Mysteria. If you when Dom started wrestling with Ray. Back in the Thunderdome. In the Thunderdome.

First match against Seth Rollins. Very first matches against Seth Rollins. But when you if you could go back in time and you tell me that that kid was going to be the guy to Uh face John Cena in his last pay-per-view? His last PLE? You wouldn't have believed it.

Come on, man. This dude is the guy. Everybody, you know, mad about that list that he was number one on, that under 30 or whatever. two years in a row, right? You're like, dog, you're not paying attention.

Look at anybody who's anybody that the company wants to have our. I know we'll get a good one if we put Dom in with him. If that is not the biggest pat on the back, you could get from the top company in the world. From the top guy in the company, John Cena. And He wanted to work with him, obviously.

He wanted to put him over. Like, the day he won the IC title and he went back, we talked about this, and he saw Ray after all the people congratulating him. And Ray was like, he needed his butt kicked. And John was like, nah, he's a good kid. Hopefully, he'll get it.

Like, he didn't try to put him down. He. Elevating them after the loss. Yeah. You know, so.

But There was a point in this match that I thought it was all coming to an end, man. And that is when Dom did that her curana. Yeah. And. Seen it kinda more or less turned it into a power bomb.

Uh Didn't mean to, or maybe didn't mean, obviously, did drum lands on the shoulder, kind of a flashback to the week before when Penta got hurt against Solo. And now you're literally, I literally almost called you at that moment. I was like, because it looked like. Because you can see he landed. And after what happened to Penna, you're already in that mode, I think, of like, oh, crap.

Yeah. That just happened. And then they stop showing him on camera. You see John go over and kind of whisper to him, and then he gets in the ring, and you're like, Oh man, it can't end like this. And then the refs calling for people.

Yeah. And the next thing you know. The next shot you see. They none like a hard R. Rock hell.

Picks this man up in the Tehana bomb, which is a move that so many women have been on this show and say, and you ask, What move don't you want to take? And they're like, Yeah, the Tehana bomb, right? She Tahanaba John Singer. Yeah. I mean, come on.

Come on. Rock Sam, Rock Sam. Pop rocks, passing out pop rocks. She hit him with the pop rocks. Yeah.

And it was like, no way. Wow. The hard Rs are in there doing their thing. And it was like, all right, are they just. It's just called audible.

And then the next thing you know. Dom Guerrero pops up and next you know he's got two 619. And he hits Cena with a 619. He goes up to the top rope for a splash and then the crowd's like one, two, three. Except, no, it didn't happen because crooked Chad Patton, the referee, for the first time in the history of professional wrestling, a referee decides that he's not going to make a count because Dom was hurt.

You don't know that Dom wasn't really hurt, crooked Chad Patton. Maybe Dom's. What did he work for? The testicular fortitude that Dom and Stereo had made the surge, the rush of a general and build so much that, yeah, he was hurt. But his shoulder miraculously popped itself back in.

Right. Because he's healthy. Because he's healthy. Because most people can't understand that. You're not Dom.

You don't have Dom's healing powers. Right. He's like Wolverine. Am I wrong? You not, you not.

Okay, so I'm not wrong. It's like crooked Chad Patton should be. I'm not calling for the man to be fired before the holidays, but I do feel like maybe a week suspension. Yeah. Just so he knows he can't do that.

Hey. D'Lo, get the bleep ready. Breath! Do your f ⁇ ing job! What are you doing?

Come on, Chad. You're making it about you. One, two, three. Yo integrity all of a sudden count the pitch. Put your ass down there and you count that fing one, two, three.

Ain't Sabai, July. That's German. All right. Come on, Chad Patton. Oh my God.

And the match keeps going through. Dudley Dew ride over here. You know, and even, you know, we had JD and Finn come out. You know, they and they got what I like to call the Edge Big Show spot. Where, if you remember, I don't know how the hell John Cena was able to lift up a 500-pound big show with a 240-pound edge on his back the way he did back then.

God, God did. But yeah, like you know, we got that spot of him with Finn and JD on his back, he hits him with the AA. You know, but um at the end of the day, man. Yeah. Don Mysterio regains Intercontinental Championship because his boot thing.

His c how I can't even say how his caret is Oh, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I need I need some Spanish. Yeah, yeah. But here comes Liv Morgan and Pete.

The daddy oh and daddy Dom lost it. And Liv's coming to the ring, you know, she's looking mad serious, and then Dom sees her and he's all happy. Then the next thing you know, He gets cracked upside the head.

Now, I noticed that she went kind of high on the slack.

So I was like, was she. All right, Lil's been gone. Maybe her timing is off. And then the next thing you know, she runs up and hops in John Cena's arms. Yeah.

And I'm like, what is going on? Right. What do we got over here? Yeah. And next thing you know, the camera zooms in, and Liv Morgan's got that look on her face similar to the one that John Cena had on the look he had when he was hugging Cody Rhodes in the rock with the yeah.

Liv jumps down off of John's. You know, John's holding her up. And she kicks him right in the ding ding. Nicoredie Murphy from Raw kicked him right in the ding ding. And That was it.

And then, you know, her and Dom are back together. Good night, Irene. It's a rap and Dom is now double champ Dom again. And here's we are like Dom and Stereo got the John Cena rub. And I feel this is more important, right?

Because they're saying the next match is going to be the person who retired John Cena. I don't know, man, because Retiring. Yeah. So it's not like. He lost a, he's gonna lose a, you know, loser retired match, right?

He's already said he's gone.

So, therefore, that kind of to me takes away a little bit about you can't say you retired John Cena because he was going to, this was going to be his last match, regardless. But you beat John Cena. on his last PLE. For a belt? For a championship?

Yeah. Our boy Dom, man. Dominic Mysterious. I tried to tell people back in the day: if you look at old tweets, man, you tell people Dom's the GOAT. The gun people be like, Dom sucks.

Oh, really? Yeah. Now, check yourself. Before thy wreck thyself, my brother. You know, but yeah, so dom regains.

He's now two-time greatest intercontinental champion of all time. You know, and he's got his girl back, you know, his baby boo live back. And all this race is. She's been real peaceful with Roxanne. Yeah, let's get to that after we, you know, we already talked about the Nikki Stephanie match for the women's world title.

You know, that was a pretty standard issue. You know, we had a couple nice. I thought Nikki looked really good. Physically or just in the because she looked great. By the way, shout out.

How are you doing? That's not weird. I know we're friends, Nikki. That's not weird. But she looked.

I'm not your friend.

Well, I am, so yeah, as you know. But yeah, Stephanie just another one, man. It doesn't matter, I think, who you put Stephanie out there with. It's going to have a good match with them. The Devil's Kiss on the announce table, I think that was a first.

I also liked the way Nikki sold it because everyone else kind of does the Michael Phelps. Yeah. You know, Nikki kind of did it where her arms were down and she's getting, you know, so it was a different. It didn't make it look like all the other. She wasn't on her knees.

Which is fine. Yeah. You know, because. I don't think every time someone's going to have enough power to get up on me.

So I kind of like the way it played. You know, I didn't, I definitely didn't have a problem with it. No. I had a great time. And also love the black.

Love the black, Nikki. That is the that's the way to go. God bless her.

So, yeah, I think Eagles, though, terrible. That's that's the thing. My god, such a shame. I mean, I have Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley in my fantasy league, and like, can y'all play football for one time? I like the fact that they're not.

So that was Survivor Series. It was war games. Wall games. No, not a lot of matches, kinda short. Um But you know, it is what it is.

I couldn't imagine being uh that traffic going back home. Boy, after that, I've been pissed. Yeah, you know, the thing is, I'm seeing fan video of people booing at the end as the show's going off because now I think we're kind of Kind of train now. Once we see those credits roll, you know, which is something AEW did. tremendously You know, when you You've never quite turned one of their shows off because you didn't know.

But I think uh You know, the weird thing of Roman helping Punk Up, then kind of extending a hand to Cody, but not really. Then Cody gets up in his face and You know, then it was like, you know, we're not teaming together anymore like Okay. All right. So it's going to be interesting to see, you know. But, you know, when we had Roman Reigns on.

No contest back in February, you asked him about the world championship, and he said, Whenever they decide they want that belt to be elevated, they know who to put it on. Yeah. So we'll see. He's got his eyes. You know, the travel chief ain't gonna go long without going for some gold.

So we're gonna see which person. He now goes after and We're going to see hopefully soon who Johnny Cash, who the man in black was, who came and effectively ended. Survivor series, but here's the here's the thing, right? Don't you hope it's Montez? I kind of do.

But then where's that Lee Dawkins? Oh, you know, so I know, but like, man, I hope it's Montez. But here's the deal: you know, Seth Rollins was on the Rich Eisen show yesterday. Yeah. And he came on, and it was.

You know, a late booking. It was like his manager, shout out, what up, Dip? He contacted Rich at like, 7.58 a.m. said Seth can come in. And uh So we booked them.

But we Do I tell them how the sausage is made here?

Okay. His black ass. I'm going to say it. We were asked. to not bring up The man dressed in all black.

We were asked to not bring up Survivor series. By by his personal people.

Now, I don't know. I don't know why. But you know me being me. Yeah, I realize that you might not want me to ask about that directly. But you know, me being me, I always have a way of uh Kind of getting to the point.

So, this is right before Seth yesterday, before he left yesterday. I kind of just wanted to check in on him, see how he was doing. You feeling good, Seth? You okay? Everything good with you?

No, we're on track. Good. We're on track. Yeah, yeah. I got the brace off like last week, middle of last week, so it was nice.

It's nice to walk around like a regular person. That's great. I know there's a lot of skepticism in your question, too, Jay. Bro, but you've been consulting my son. You are the host of the Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire show.

You know, don't forget. There's only one host of such a feelings that you would think that about. I'm just saying, there was a little condescension, you know what I mean, in your voice. I was very sincere. I picked up sincere concerns.

That was sincere. I'm feeling all right. I'm feeling all right. It's nice to be able to get around without the brace. I'll say that.

But yeah, we're on track. We're on track. Everybody's on track. We're on track. Which makes us happy.

That's right. I hope you understand that. I hope so.

Okay. I still feel bad for what I did to you guys. I still feel remorse for you. It's the greatest, if this shows in the 11-year history of the way that this show's ever been used, best way we've ever been used. And Seth, you know it's quite pleased to be used.

I didn't want to cancel on you. No, no, I didn't want to cancel on you. You didn't. And I was concerned. You were great.

And it's great. You're awesome. And I appreciate you coming here. I'm glad we were part of it.

So uh Didn't really get any answers. I now know that the brace his arm is out the sling, though. We could see that, and he's getting better. I gotta be honest, I. I just don't think it was him, though.

I don't think storyline was it. I just don't think they would just pull that crap again. You already hit. Yeah it would s it would just cheapen it. It was just cheap in that moment.

Like... You already got us with the ruse of the century and all of that to try to muster it up again, also after. They whooped your ass, right? Like, they beat your ass. You can't go back to that.

Like, your woman got in Paul Heyman's face. By the way, cut one of the best promos that she's ever cut. And you would just take those moments away. Yeah, it can't be him. Can't do it.

But I had to. I wouldn't be doing my due diligence as a co-host of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast if I at least didn't kind of. Try to get a feeling for what was going on there. You know, I I had to You know, respect their requests. I still had to get something kind ass directly down.

Same?

So, yeah.

So, that's how it was. You know, always good to have Seth on the show. And so, we'll see where this goes from here.

Now, you know, who, again, who. could demand a black D, you know. Is it is it? Is it Theory? Is it Montez?

Is it Oba Femi? Is it Trip? I mean, is it Ricky Saints? I don't know, man. It could be anybody.

Was it you? Because I didn't see you.

Now I think, wait a second.

Now I think about it. I didn't see you on Saturday. We talked on the phone. I don't know where you were. I ain't got no tracking device.

How do I know it wasn't you? Hmm. Yeah. Uh-huh. All right.

Hell no. I'm gonna make punk lose. Yeah, that's true. The Roman.

Okay, okay. What I mean, but that But by saying that, that would make me feel okay. I could eliminate Shea from this. But You Being a person who might be a mastermind would know, much like. you know, the prince's bride would know that.

We would think that you wouldn't attack two of your favorites.

So, therefore, we would think that it couldn't possibly be you, and yet. Listen, I'm I'm I'm not buff enough yet. No, when I start to yoke up, you'll be like, okay, okay, bro. You yeah, you getting a little bump. But let me tell you what I'm gonna tell everybody because.

We see the comments as well. And, you know, there's always people that are always getting on us. Saying that we get paid by WWE and we work for WWE. I get that a lot. Let me tell y'all something.

Maybe we should take the glasses off and let them. No. Let me tell you something. The day? I work for WWE.

Y'all will be the first to know. I will not let you forget it. You hear me?

So, you don't have to worry about it. I will let you know the first day. I'll take a picture of me signing the contract, baby. All right. Just because I know it would dig in a lot of y'all's hearts, and a lot of y'all might be happy for me.

The majority would be. You don't have to worry. I'll let you know. I'll let you know first. By the way, that's from O'Shea Jackson Jr., with your bitch ass.

Bam. And by the way, if that were the case, we We would have been it was two hours away. We would have been there. Are you kidding? Where were you at?

Like I said, I don't know. I assume you were at home. I know I was at home. I was at the homie Ruski's house. Shout out to Ruski.

You know what I mean? So, yeah, no, you guys got to chill with that. AKA Kodak White. I call him Kodak White because he liked to shoot. When we play basketball, he was Caucasian.

Any white. Oh, well, that'll do it. But that's my boy. Also, hey, you really eating chips right now? That's how you feel.

You know. I want to say. Happy birthday to my big brother Daryl. Yeah. I love you to death.

You are the coolest man on the face of the earth. I learned everything that I know from you and I love you to death. Thank you for my nephew. Thank you for my niece on the way in a few weeks. I love you, Daryl.

Happy birthday, man. It's December 3rd when you look at this sometime in the future. If you didn't know. And that's who got you into wrestling, right? Yeah, man.

It wouldn't be here without Daryl.

So I guess I should thank Daryl. Hell yeah. Hey, everybody, thank Daryl in the comments. Happy birthday. My brother, happy birthday.

Happy birthday, D. Let's move on to Monday Night Raw real quick. Yeah, baby, I like it raw. Yeah, baby, I like it. Shout out to Old Dirty.

Just not for nothing, y'all. I was looking at TikTok the other day. Do you know there's a band or a group that formed that is Meth Son, Dirty Son, Ghost Son, and You God's Son, all spitting together. And I think, I don't know if they're putting a super group together. What is it going to be?

The Son of the Wu? Man, I don't know, but they. The Son of the Wu? The Young Bulls sounded good, man. I'm going to start.

I'm going to. Kind of research some more, but yeah, man, shout out to them, the next generation of woo, man. And I'm all for it. Uh, but anyway, that's just not for nothing. Uh, you know, we, you know, you're the son of a famous rapper, sons of famous rappers, so you know, hey.

But, you know, now we're at Monday Night Raw quick. We'll move through this. Last time in action, got Jey Uso against LA Knight. Yeah. The winner gets to move on to the finals of the John Cena John Cena Memorial Invitational Tournament.

I guess is essentially what it is. And. LA Night. Yeah. You know, got a little crucifix roll-up on Jay Uso there and got the one, two, three.

And LA Knight moves on to the finals. And Jay looks like we're about to have a, well, I said looks like we did. We had a crash out. But then he destroyed a bunch of prime bottles. I don't really think that's a problem.

No. You know, but yeah, man, Jay is, he's going through it right now. Like you said earlier, he's lost a few big matches. Yeah, in a row. In a row.

Which, you know. Yeah, of someone who gets that type of pop, who has that much popularity. You know, I don't think fans sh can complain to say he's being overpushed because You know, Jay's in the main event scene, but he's not winning all the time. Not winning at all.

So it's going to be interesting to see where this goes. A few weeks ago, I know I talked about, I know that they're not going to turn their most popular wrestler heel. It doesn't make sense. And I still feel that way. Like I said, you, you.

You see the pops, you hear the pops more importantly, because I pay attention every week and I'm just trying to see, like, all right, now is like the crowd, are they not going with it? And bro. Crowds still into it. He's getting the second Yeet entrance because the crowd is still so hype.

So, you know, it's going to be interesting to see where they... take Shea, especially with his His comments to Who was it, Kathy? It was Jackie at the end. That's right. And he said those belts look better on Roman anyway.

Like, that was interesting to say.

So we definitely got Jay, like, unsure, not confident in himself.

So let's see where this goes. Does he have to go to the desert, you know, go find himself, you know, go on a retreat to Siberia, you know, maybe, you know, lift some weights in the snow like Rocky did preparing to fight Drago? I don't know. By the way, Rocky's training regimen does not help for boxing, dude. It helps with your lungs, though.

It helps with your cardio because. Yeah, that's it. That's all it was.

So then we got LA Night.

Well, yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you hit that. We got LA Knight moving on to the finals. And then what else did we have?

You know, also, you know, also kind of weird when you have two top baby faces going at it. Because I think in your mind, you're kind of waiting for one of them to like. Do the eye poke or kick somebody in the ding ding or do something. And we didn't get that. There was no ding dings, no, no, no pokes.

Yeah, just LA Knight kind of moving on and. Jay crashing out, and then you know, you get to the back, and you see Oscar yelling at Bailey. Which was funny about like, had we been on my team, we would have won, you know. And so you get the hell out of my face. Ray Bailey's not going for that.

And then, what else we got here? And then we had, you know, the judgment day in the ring. Dom's coming out to address the crowd. Liv makes her return. Everybody loves Liv.

Everyone loves to see her. And then, you know, Liv kind of grabbed the mic. And I'm kind of expecting at this point, the way it was positioned, that you thought. that, all right, this is, maybe Liv's gonna kick Roxanne out or she's gonna attack her. No, she actually said she missed being there with him, which is weird because she was never in Judgment Day with Roxanne, but there didn't seem to be any friction.

We were expecting some tension, right? We just assumed when she got back, but we kind of got away from the domin Roxanne, maybe the two names and things. Yeah, we kind of got away.

So now it's like, no, she's just a member of the group.

So I guess it might not make sense for Liv to go after her because we haven't really had that she's trying to push up or Dom or Dom's trying to get with her type thing. And then you can kind of see maybe as Liv was saying, you know, the Judgment Days back, we're running Monday Night Raw. We can see Liv positioning herself, especially when she went and confronted Stephanie in the back that maybe she's just going to let the hard R's stay together and she's just going to go after singles gold, which would make sense. But it felt like she's doing the Rhea Ripley role, how Rhea Ripley at a moment became the leader of the Judgment Day where she kind of like was the mother goose keeping everybody in order. It really felt like Liv was doing that.

Yeah, so let's see. Again, because of. How John Cena incorporated him into that match. Again, I thought it would be crazy. at this point to break them up.

Right now.

So, like, it's always felt like they've always teased it, and then something happened where it was like, nah, nah, it'd be crazy to do that.

So, yeah, why break them up now? You got your women's tag team, you got your women who would go after singles gold, you got your men's tag team, you got your singles champion, you got another guy who's, you know. Could be a world champion at the drop of a hat and fin. Yeah. So I think Judgment Day, you know, despite the fact that Liv slapped the lips off of Dom's face, yeah, or the face off his lips, however you want to call it.

That is a Mexican man, right? And then she liked that. And then she just ate his face with a kiss.

So that's maybe that's how they love. Yeah. You know, some people love hard.

Some people love hard. None of my business. None of my business. But what is our business is the Judgment Day standing tall in that ring.

So we'll see where this is going to go, man. I'm with it, though. Then you had AJ. AJ Styles, Dragon Lee, Dragon Styles. Yeah.

Going up against New Day. for the tag team championships. And this one and I Is Grayson Waller uh the third member of the due date? Because it I don't know. He might as well be.

They might as well just uh uh make it official. You know, but um At the end, the way the match ended with Dragon Lee hitting a double stomp on Kofi's back as he's hanging off the rope, and then Kofi flies right into AJ's arms. Perfect position for the styles clash. He hits that one, two, three, and they retain. What a finish.

What we've seen from AJ. Before, but you'd have to be like a geek who was watching ROH 20 years ago, and a lot of people probably weren't. He did that move before, but again, you know, 300 people saw it live as opposed to dude. I was I was online and I seen everybody trying to show clips of oh, such and such did this over there and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Do y'all know how many people have copied AJ Styles?

Do you know how many, how he is the blueprint for a lot of these people that y'all cheer for now? How dare you question? The phenomenal one. But yeah, that was dope, man. And like I said, it's good to see Dragon League get a little bit of love because.

I feel like, especially when the triple A. kind of working relationship happen, I think Dragon League got kind of lost in the mix for a little bit. Yeah. So it was good to see him because the dude's uber talented. Like that dive he did out of the ring right before the Styles clash was.

He needs to maybe tone it down a little bit. I'm going to say this, and I know it's going to be controversial. But him or Ray Phoenix need to change their masks. Like, it's too similar. I get that.

Their masks are very similar, dude. And, like, I mean, I know what that mask means. And I know how long you've had your design and the lore behind that in Lucha Libre. But like duck. It just really feels like they're trying to outdo each other.

Now they're on two separate shows. And body-wise, they don't look anything like that. Yeah, but like, you gotta, you know, to that casual audience. One of y'all gotta stand out. Yeah, that's true.

One of y'all gotta stand out. So yeah, Styles and Lee retained the titles and then the then we got a little vignette of Natty Training Maxine, which was Pretty dope, right? And I just feel like hopefully Natty is coming. And if you don't know who Natty is, you got to go on YouTube. It's not Natalya.

No, this is Natty. Natty and Natalya are two different people. And if Maxine is getting a. trained by natty if she's getting put through the ringer by natty then Maybe I'll be able to eventually buy this Maxine Reign as an IC champion. We just said.

You got Chelsea with the United States. You got Maxine with the Intercontinental. They both can't be funny. They both can't be comedy. Yeah, you well, Maxine.

Chelsea's comedy. Maxine is more like the underdog, unsure of herself. Maxine kicking in with Tozawa and Otis. Yeah, but they do. She's not really the like Chelsea's comedy.

I don't, I personally wouldn't consider Maxine comedy myself, but I get what you're saying. Like, you gotta.

Somebody gotta be serious. Yeah. And Maxine. It might have been a little alms? It might have to be her.

Hey man, I'm down for it. And so then you had the vision. My milk of magnesium. I thought that was soul.

Well, no, soul's not milk of magnesium. No, no. See, people don't know about that. Yeah, you know.

Soul's. Dad got hair like a zebra cake. You know what I mean? Her pops got hair like me. Then we had Division.

They had a little segment where Braun Breaker just kind of did his breakout promo. Yep. Even. mentioned the fact that Punk told him Hey, we'll see, kid. Let's see if you can hang in the promo.

And he was like, la-di-da, here's the promo. Like, so January the 5th, we're gonna have Braun Breaker. Taking on CM Punk for that World Heavyweight Championship, man. And uh I don't know what's going to happen there. I can't imagine.

Charles Montgomery losing the Raw and on his first title defense, too, right? On a Raw. But look, we got to remember: playing's. Got changed when Seth got hurt.

So, who knows, man? But I love Brian Breaker. But does not act like some dude in black didn't come win you that match. Like you talking some cash money-ish. And uh Some yeah, some guy helped y'all cheat.

So, like, let's not act like it was all, it was all big dog gravy and all that. But I also will say when Braun Berger gets a little worked up. His uncle be coming out of him. That's Steiner That, like, you can just hear it. Yeah.

That nonsense, get the spewing. That is entertainment. They are bred for this. And then his voice will always crack a little at the end. Yeah, which is even funnier.

It is funny because it's not directed towards me.

So I can laugh at him because he ain't coming for me.

Well, you know, we're friends with Braun Breaker here. He had Paul Heyman break. Yeah. He'd had Paul Heyman break. He was so hyped.

When he slammed that mic, the button car get caught up. Damn. And Paul was like, Yeah So, yeah, great, great promo from Braun. And that's what we want, right? Obviously, you got to have the older vets, right?

Because. Like when I first started watching wrestling, right, and I'll take you back. I know this from researching it. When Ric Flair won his second NWA World Championship, right? And you know he went on to have 16 of them.

But when he really made his run. I wouldn't look. Ric Flair was 35 years old, 1983, when he really started his run.

So, you know, back then, you know, wrestlers didn't really reach their peak until like they were in. 30, you know, they're 35 years old.

So I think not everybody wants the younger people like, oh, you got to go young, but there's something to be said about. Being a veteran, spending years and years in the game, knowing how to react in any and all situations, all this comes over time. Like the actor you are now. It's ten times better the actor you were. Five years ago, and five years from now, if you're not 10 times better than you are today, then you.

Yeah, I'm out. You didn't do what you should have been doing. That's just how, you know.

So I've got no problem, but yeah, you always got to have youth must be served, obviously. Too much talent coming up from NXT. Breaker's been on this path for a year now, where people have said, like, he's. Going to be the next guy.

So we'll see. We'll see what happens. But I thought he did a great job with the promo. I felt it. Right, and that isn't a sign of a good promo.

You got to make somebody believe, yeah, you know, and I think he did a great job with that so. Let's see where it goes from here, man. But January the 5th, we're going to find out. We're going to see how ready. He is.

Yeah. And, you know, when you think about young champions. It doesn't need to be a bunch of Randy Ortons. Doesn't need to be a bunch of Brock Lesnars. By the way, those guys aren't growing trees.

Yeah, like dude, like Randy Orton went on to be a 14-time champion. Like There's only about maybe Let's be honest, how many people on earth? 6 billion?

Something like that? There's probably 100 Brock Lesnars in this world. Right. You know, and there ain't that many. Yeah, right.

And hopefully they never meet. Yeah, there ain't that many in wrestling.

So, yeah, guys like that are different. They're special. Everybody's just different.

So yeah, they got it. Got to be a little seasoned. Yeah. So then we had the matchup, Solo Sokoa versus Gunther. You were wanting to talk about two faces with Jey Uso.

That's exactly where I was going to transition. Thank you for doing that.

So now we're going to talk about a match. We had two hills going, and it kind of makes you wonder. Because of his reaction last week when Penta got hurt.

Solo looked just mad. You have to wonder, he probably wasn't supposed to win that match. It was probably supposed to be Penta against Gunther, you would think, right? But then we had to transition, and now you got the Hill versus Hill. And that was.

Bro, no one's really talking about that. That was a good match. They banged it out. They banged it and solo doing this, you know, the comedic solo stuff, you know, when he hit the Gunther move, you know, but then reacted to the chops, but he still got his stuff in. He still looked dangerous.

He did cut down on the comedy a little bit, which is what happened. At a point, it got like. They fight. Yeah. But man, shout out to Gunther and shout out to Solo for putting on just a banger that Gunther won as we expected because that's what we've been hearing.

all this time. But yeah, shout out to him and Solo for putting on a A great match, I thought. And I look forward to seeing those two go at it again, y'all. Absolutely. So now we got LA Night.

Yeah. Yeah. And uh Gunther. And Honestly? I feel like I don't know who's going to win.

Everyone thinks that Gunther's gonna win, right? Everybody. That's what my mind tells me. But Do we need it? LA Night the only one that ain't had a world channel.

That's that. And then think about this. It's cancer. retires John Cena. Within Six months he's retired Goldberg and Cena.

Like Wow. Yeah. You want to talk about a resume builder? You know what I mean? You put that on what jobs.com and you're getting the jobs.

Let me tell you, in a world where Cause when you look at somebody like Gunther. You wonder, how do you turn something like that face ever? In a world where I don't think he's ever going to meant to be a face. Brawn breaker. his world title or like let's say he wins the world title We know eventually this is what is destined for his career.

But can you imagine that music? That g that that dunner? hitting in the middle of a of a Bron Breaker promo. I don't know if the arena can handle something like that. Like, it's like a, oh, like, what direction are they going to go with these two going at each other?

But uh CM Punk still got something to say about that. Yeah, he does.

So we still got a few months, I think, before We got to worry about that. And then, you know, that happened. And then you had the main event where Flair and Bliss and then Ripley and Sky fought to a double DQ. You know, all the ladies came in, got a little bit of shine. The hard R's were standing tall at the end.

Yeah, at the very end, the Hard R's were the ones. And it just plays into what I said, man. Judgment Day. I don't think they're going away. You don't get that John Cena rub and not go over, right?

So. Let's see. Um, match was good, you know. Um. Just Kind of highlighted the women's tag team division, which is good if you want to elevate those belts and keep them going.

Kind of liked what they did at the end. Yeah. Yeah, I loved it. No, I loved it because, first of all, anytime you get to showcase the ladies. You got to take that opportunity.

They look great. And it showed you that, like, they're about to start writing for the lady star power. Raw, a lot of people, I might not disagree. Raw was really good. It might have been better than the PLE, to be honest with you, man.

How about that? He didn't have some random black come out and ruin everything. That's not Seth Rollins. 'Cause I know because I kinda asked him but I didn't 'cause Wow. Yes, that was our Survivor Series recap.

That was our Monday Night Raw recap. You know, tonight, um tonight's Wednesday night, I'm be looking forward to watching uh AEW Dynamite. Gonna have the Continental Classic Tourney continuing, which is awesome. There's also a continuation of the women's tag team tournament. which is going to see uh well You know, our girl Willow and Harley Cameron are in the finals and they're going to wait on the winners of Tony Storm and Mina.

They're going to take on. Uh Megan Bain and Mina. Shafir, so we're going to see one of those teams move on to the finals. What is your prediction? for the finals there.

Yeah. It's hard to go against Tony. Right. It's just too hard. I just love Tony Storm.

She's just like... But she is willing to play ball, though. Like, we've seen a few times of her. Taking it, but it it's I can't go against Tony. I can't.

Thing is though, right? You know, I've been kind of... I guess skeptical about me, uh Since the the whole Death Riders thing started because I looked at it as like she was never presented as a threat in the women's division, and now you're making her. You know. Men in the men's division she's taken out.

So that never really worked for me. Yeah. She, I finally went, man, like, you know, in the blood and guts, she definitely did her thing. I think that's kind of where her sweet spot is. You know, I don't think.

She's going to be the type you're going to get a 30-minute matte classic out of her, of course not. But a stipulation match like that where she could just go in there and just merc women. That You know, I think that's her sweet spot. And the fact that Megan Vane is pretty much indestructible. Um You know, I love me.

You know, I love me some Mina. You know, I loves me some Tony. Yeah. But I got to be honest, man, I think the mega babes or whatever they call themselves, it's time. Mega and Mina, or mega and.

Marina or I think they're going to take this one, man, and I think they're going to move on to the finals to take on. Willow and Harley. Nah, I gotta stay with Tony. Staying with Tony? Yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't be mad at that, you know? Yeah. And Tony vs. Willow, I'm going to just be hurt. And you know, you got the continuation of the men's Continental Classic, which just like last year, and I think we mentioned this last week maybe, Okada has the Unified Championship.

Pisses me off. And so we thought that the international and the continental were kind of, you know. Why is he in the tournament?

Well, he was in the tournament last year and he had it. Remember, he started off the same way. He started off with zero points and he ended up winning the whole thing, retaining the belt. But now it's just like I thought. That belt was done, but it's not.

Okay, whatever. Where do you keep it at?

So, does that mean the international title is still in effect? Has to, right? I don't know. I guess maybe I wasn't paying attention for a week. I'm going to have to go back and my apology.

My sister tells me it's something from New Japan. Oh, yeah, definitely. It's a, you know, the way that they do the scoring system. It's. You know, it's not an easy thing.

To understand and keep track of, unless you're really paying a lot of attention and you have maybe some knowledge of how New Japan does their tournaments. But I'm interested. Eddie Kingston called out Samoa Joe, the new AEW champion. I think they're going to have a little. You know, a little meetup in the ring before they get it on.

And, you know, those are two guys on the mic that I believe. When Eddie Kingston speaks, I believe what he's saying. We didn't talk about this last week, but how do you feel about Joe Gidden? I You know Hangman Page Finally dethroning Jon Moxley at All Inn, which I was at, was Such a high moment, man, and it was just a great moment. for that company um Hangman.

you know put upon the perch of the number one guy.

So, to say, speak.

So, I gotta be honest, I was a little shocked that. He lost the belt as soon as he did. I was also a little shocked when He told Joe that he wanted him in a steel cage. And Samoa Joe, of all people, looked nervous or scared, like he didn't want to do it. And I was like, That's weird to me.

That would never be Samoa Joe's reaction, especially after you're chasing this man and then he goes, we're fighting a steel cage. And Samoa Joe was like, ah, like, ah, no, that didn't work. But You know what's Samoa, Joe?

So I can't be mad at it. But I can say I'm a little surprised that they moved past. page when they did and I'm sure we'll we'll we'll figure it out why You know? I thi I think they I think they ran into Something that I I kind of felt with Cody. Because Okay.

It got to the point where everybody was hammering for Hangman to beat the big bad. Same way. Same way, Cody. Mm-hmm. And then you you had such electricity with that.

That You run into Were we a fan of the chase? And when Cody got the title, I'm not going to lie, the first couple, it was boring as hell. It was just like. You know, he's not about to lose. You know, he's not about to lose it.

You know, he's not about to lose it. And then you start to have a feeling of Is he Do we get the most bang for our buck when we have him chasing it? And I kind of think they felt that and pulled that trigger a little bit. Interesting. And so now you have this.

This, you know, version of Hangman back, along with Swerve coming back. them teaming up, oil and water, finding a way to work together. And he's back on the chase. And I think that that is good for the character. I think eventually he will get it back.

Um but I I just felt I felt like they kind of felt It being a little stale a little bit and didn't want the predictable. And also, we don't know how long Joe has.

Something nice to do for somebody who deserves it in Samoa Joe. I wish there was a world where I could get him and AJ one more time. Right. But. I I love that Samoa Joe got the title one more time.

Hey man, Adam Page will be just fine. Oh, yeah. He'll be just fine. It's not going to be the last time he's world champion. You know, and um.

Yeah, you know, I don't know if we talked about it last time. I know Hook needs to do something different.

Well, think about it, though, right? Hook was in the ops. He gets hurt. He has to give up his His portion of the six-man strap, which they gave to Powerhouse Hobbes. Hook comes back, you know.

And it looks like now he's gonna, he's not happy, he's gonna turn on him, and then you find out during the championship match. He's still an op.

So my thought was like, why would he leave anyway? He got hurt. Like, what are you supposed to do?

So, I just see Joe transitioning, them using the free bird rule. Give this title. Joe's got the world title. You're keeping the trios titles. And and you keep it moving that way, I guess.

What what did you mean when you said hook? Has to do so. I've been seeing the same hook. Like there's nothing like even visually The character, I was a big fan of Hook, you know, and I thought the kid had. The look.

He was badass. Had the He just had the vibes of somebody to keep an eye on. And now I just feel like I keep saying the same old thing from it. But it is the fence. He was off TV for a while.

He's just coming back. Just coming back.

So I think you've got to give it a little bit more time. We shall see. Because that's another stack. We're talking about stack rosters. Yeah.

It's a stacked roster. It's a stacked roster. You know what I mean? I mean, they got thirty-two belts. That's true.

That's true.

And, you know, 15 of them are held by one person. True. True that. True that. So, yeah, but I'm looking forward to it.

And also, I just got to point it out. And now they're gonna get on me about it. Swerve. Boy, you took so long to get to that damn ring. He took forever to get to that ring.

Trying to get that song off, so I can't be mad at him for it, but damn. A lot of people are missing that, you know. Flash Garment song. I can't even do the dance. Yeah, what's Nana going to do?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sell coffee. And then, you know, a little controversial statement in wrestling by Stevie Richards, who I think last week, he made a comment that Logan Paul is a better wrestler than. Anyone. An AEW.

Yeesh. Yo, I don't. Let me tell you something, man. Like, respect to Logan, Paul. For doing this thing.

You know, very successful at, I guess, all facets of his life. And inside this wrestling wing, he's been positioned to be a star, but. And in all due respect, Logan, just off the top of my head, I could tell you. He is not a better pro wrestler than Kenny Omega. Are we in agreement here?

Yeah. He's not a better wrestler than Hangman Page. He's not a better wrestler than Jon Moxley. No. He's not a better wrestler than Claudio Castanol.

No. Swerve. No. Osprey. I don't know.

Kyle Fletcher. No. MJF.

Okay. No. Joe? Oh no, Samo Joe's he's like a no, he's like an enigma. stop playing you know what i mean like Eric Kyle O'Reilly.

It's not the s star level that Logan has, but So, to say that, I'm not sure what Stevie Richards was thinking. Like, maybe. What's he thinking like? I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, if you're talking sports entertainer, then that's what I'm doing. The entertainment part. That dude is nice on the mic. AEW isn't necessarily sports entertainment, is the way they put it. But to say a better.

wrestler. Then anyone there is very disrespectful. Yeah, and you know, and that's gonna bring heat on Stevie, but it's also gonna put heat on Logan, which he doesn't deserve in this case because he's not the one. But he don't Logan don't care, he'll take the heat and he'll love that. He'll, you know, he'll make some biscuits out of it, right?

He'll he'll he'll he love that. But I gotta be honest, like, I saw that and I was like, yo. The stop it. I text Logan. I I I text Logan and I I told him uh What's the name drop?

I'm uh. Oh, yeah, bro. I'm famous. But I had to let him know that. As a wrestling fan.

He pisses me off. Because he gets to do such cool shit. And like. To be in both of those brawls. At the end of those raws, like you get to do such cool stuff, man.

And he's he knows it. He knows it and he's super appreciative and he's like super grateful about it. He can't tell you that on T V, but like did he respond with new phone who this when you text him? Oh. I'm famous.

I mean I mean, I work for no contest. I mean, that's a good point. We got a title. Shout out to Dave Milliken. You see it?

A goat. Here's another one. All right, man.

Well, you know, since we don't have a guest today, we might as well uh. Call it. Yeah, man. Hey, why don't you tell the people where to find us? Yeah, man.

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