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844-204-Rich is the number to dial here on the program. He's had a very nice chat with Michael Shannon, first one I've had in 10 years with him. because he was here in 2015. I forget what he was promoting here the last time he was here. Uh but he's got um Uh Some terrific films to talk about, including Nuremberg, which is available in theaters nationwide on Friday, November 7th.
He plays the chief prosecutor of Herman Goring in that film, played by Russell Crowe. He's in Death by Lightning, which is available for streaming on Netflix November 6th. He plays the role of James Garfield, who was assassinated.
So, you know, comedies. And so he Francis Shannon's going to come out here, but we've got a great celebrity, true or false, to talk about with him. And I just I am such a fan of his. going way back in the day and we are going to go way back in the day eight mile He was in, and also, I mean, Boardwalk Empire. Talk about some dark characters in that show.
Bobby Conovali's been on the show multiple times. You want to. I think he won an admin for Gypro City, didn't he? Yeah, he did. But at any rate, Michael Shannon's going to join us here in about 18 minutes' time.
He always plays characters you're slightly afraid of. Maybe not even slightly. Like maybe fully afraid of. Ticking underneath the hood. You know what I mean?
And so, Michael Shannon, a big fan of his, we've got a great celebrity, True or False for him. Knives Out, another great film that he's been in. He's going to be joining us here shortly. 844-204-Rich is the number to dial. Let's go to Jimmy in San Antonio.
What's up, Jimmy? How are you? I'm not bad. How are you? Oh, dude, Wembunyama's killing it.
So there's that. Congratulations there. We have 81 more games to talk about freak. I mean, it's.
Okay, yeah, exactly. We have a whole season to talk about him. And The Spurs that are going to make the playoffs calling that, which is not a hot take. I don't think so either. I'm wondering, but again, listen, Warriors looked good again last night with Steph Curry doing Steph things like shooting a three from the logo to tie the game, and then they win it in overtime despite Aaron Gordon scoring 50.
Um and you know obviously SGA and Oklahoma City is just another one to just talk about but I think the Spurs are in the mix, man. No, no, I mean, Timberwolves, all that sort of business. The West is going to be very difficult this year. If anyone thinks OKC is going to walk through to the finals, No way. The West is way more hard.
I agree. That's not a hot tech. That's usually how it goes. That's how it goes. Yeah, right.
What else you got on your mind? I just called in to talk about dining alone. Yeah, I I I've been a Ferris Bueller. I have a system that sends to work and people are going to be like, damn, Jenny, you're a scum. But when I go eat alone at a nice restaurant, I make sure I don't eat at the bar because nobody's going to buy your meal if you're eating at the bar.
You get a table for two. you order a shot of your favorite whiskey and you put it in the chair across from you. And then you order, and then the dating couples or a family will think that you are having a drink. With someone who's not with you, and they'll end up buying your meal. Jimmy, Antonio, that's devious next levels.
But it but it works. Wow. I find that a hard time believing that one. Oh, my word. Jimmy and San Antonio.
How about that? That's like taking Joe Flacco's statement, just kicking it up a notch. Yeah. I mean, respectfully, Jimmy, I don't think that's true. Oh really?
Wow. Has it worked for you, Jimmy? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've used that many times.
Well, you need to go to San Antonio more often. Find a shot of whiskey and it'll tug on somebody's tears that you're sitting alone and then you get a free meal. Jimmy, in San Antonio, all right. You don't feel the least bit guilty for doing that? Not at all.
Well, clearly not. Why are we applauding for that sort of thing? I don't know. Jimmy, thank you. I appreciate the applause because Ferris Bueller did it.
You thought it was cool.
Well, you'll appreciate this. Susie chimed in, you know, your favorite much more than you like me. Um, she chimed in. Uh, I love Joe Flacco. That's how I feel sitting in my car.
I don't know about. Anyone else have her hands attended to the house? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
What she does, though, is when she comes home, she sits in the car for minutes on end. What do they do? She makes a call, listens to music. It's like her meditation. It's like her own personal moments before she goes in and joins like the Star Wars cantina that's going on in the household where she's pulled in 15 different directions because mom is home.
And before you let me go, shout out to Amy Trass. Very, very happy. That is the smartest woman in professional sports. Uh the ghost. Her medulla oblangata is real and spectacular.
She is. Genius. I got a question for Jimmy real quick. Yeah, I'm a little surprised. We had the wolf on Monday, Jimmy.
We all expected a phone call from you. What happened?
Well, I didn't want to I didn't want to impose. I wanted you to have your time. That's right, Jimmy. Gentlemen, Jimmy. Gentlemen, thanks for Jimmy.
Yes. Hey, don't get within 200 yards of TJ. All right. Thank you, Jimmy. But I'm going to.
Thank you, Jimmy and San Antonio. Greatly appreciated. It's a very ungentlemanly conversation you're both having out there. Again, I. I don't know does Sarah do that?
When she comes home, sit in the driveway. I've seen her. If she's still on a call, she'll be in the driveway.
So I'm wondering if there are any other. Women out there who do the same thing Susie does. I've heard it's common. I would think women and men do that. No, she just sits there in the car.
And And the dogs know she's there and they go nuts, nuts. They hear her car. They know it's her. They know she's sitting there and they go. Ape.
Hmm. Go ham. Until she walks in the door. 844-204-Rich is the number to down. We'll always take your phone calls.
All right, we're one game in, so week eight. I do this every Friday. It's time to do it again. My top five matchups for the rest of week eight, presented by Hyundai. One, two, three, four, and five.
Riches top five. All right, number five on this list of my other games that I'm looking forward to seeing for the rest of week number eight that began just up the road on Thursday night with the Chargers dispatching. The Vikings, emphatically, is the Monday night game on ESPN. Um, and uh, return of the manning cast, by the way, it's uh several weeks in a row now that all the double dips are gone. And listen, um the commanders falling to three and five would be significant.
This is the team that made the final four last year of championship weekend. This is the team that had designs of. taking that next step. And All that's happened is just a bunch of injuries. including one of their quarterback.
And it's Marcus Mariota going into Arrowhead. On a Monday night against the Chiefs team, that we're all expecting to just use them as a plaything. Maybe it'll be different. I don't know. But on a Monday night, I also want to see if the Chiefs are just going to continue looking like the best team in football as they have over the last couple of weeks.
We shall see. I'm looking forward to seeing all of that. Number four. Hey man, say what you will. But the Giants play entertaining football with Jackson Dart.
is starting. Even the loss that they had in New Orleans was just like Wait a minute. Did they turn the ball over five consecutive? Series? The loss in Denver.
Is something that's been an epic flame out. Obviously, they're not. The Giants aren't there for your football rubbernecking. Write that one down. Um but Tango and Cash out there in Cleats is just a lot of fun to watch.
Can the Giants sweep the Eagles for the first time since 2007? And if they do it, snapping a 12-game losing streak in Philadelphia. What would that do? to the Philadelphia Eagles. and their fan base, I think it would seriously mess with their heads.
as they go into a buy. coming out of it at Green Bay and home for Detroit and at Dallas. And then The day after Thanksgiving against Chicago, and then at the Chargers. That's five straight weeks. Coming off a buy for the Eagles.
They need this win. How does that sound? at five and two. And the Giants, can they bounce back after the toughest loss anybody's ever seen? Again, Nobody's ever had as large a lead as the Giants had, as late as they had it.
and lost a game in the history of the NFL. How do they bounce back? I can't wait to watch this one. Early Window Fox. Giants going for their first sweep of the Eagles since 2007.
By the way, they won the Super Bowl that year. Number three on the list.
Alright, I'm gonna put my uh my top five where my mouth is. I keep saying the E Ravens can go on a run. It starts now. It starts now, and it starts against the Bears team that's won four in a row and feeling great about themselves and coming into the bank. Ravens coming off a bye.
Let's get Lamar back. We saw him running into practice down the hill like he was Dabbo running to Clemson. Yeah, Albert said he was a full participation. Here we go. There we go.
He's back. Let's see it. They're coming off the buy. Let's see the Ravens come off the buy and say we are flushing the first six weeks of the season. And we are the Ravens and we are going to take care of business.
And start putting pressure on everybody else when we get back to 500 and beyond, one week at a time. Or the Bears are just like: we are who we think we are. Which is 4-2, about to be 5-2. Caleb's feeling great, and Caleb's going to go into the mid-Atlantic. It's his hometown, ish.
He just was there. On a Monday night, and beat the commanders. And he's going to go into the mid-Atlantic. And guess what he's gonna do? He's going to beat Lamar.
And he's gonna win five in a row. I know. But uh either way, I'm I'm Properly registering. I'm looking forward to this. Number three, number two.
The varsity's in Denver. I said this yesterday. Hey, TJ. I meant it when I said it. The Cowboys are set up.
They're set up to win this division. Sir? Dak is playing in an MVP level. CeeDee Lamb says it's the best offense they've played in. Um you're Tight end.
That's all he does is catch touchdowns like he's Chris Carter.
Okay. George Pickens has shown up in the way that you were hoping he would. Yes, indeed. Javante Williams has shown up in a way you didn't see coming. Comeback Player of the Year.
Get familiar. You can't come back from Sean Payton's bench and win that award. I'm still voting for him. I'm saying, guys, the Cowboys 3-3-1. Are 100% set up.
If they win this game, they're 4-3-1 while the Eagles take on the Giants. I'm not expecting that to be the upset, but. After that, Dallas As we all know, they're taking on, as I mentioned yesterday, taking on Arizona on a Monday night football at home, then at Bay, then they're at Vegas on a Monday night. While the Eagles are on a bye at Green Bay and home for Detroit, and then they face each other in week 12. Dallas could be set up.
If they win this game and win the others that they expect, and get the Eagles to lose one or two. To welcome him into the house, even the series up on the season, and truly make some hay in the division. But they got to win this one. And then, how will Denver finish this thing up? after last week and the week before.
I mean, what a week they they go into Philadelphia, they look dead in the water, score 18 in the fourth, then they look dead in the water in London and still win. Then they come home and they're dead in the dead in the water to the middle of the fourth quarter and still win. What will it look like? Can't wait. Nix vs.
Dak. Three letters. For both. Mm-hmm. Number one on the list, as we all know, is don't call it a revenge game.
It's just Aaron Rodgers taking on. The Green Bay Packers. And it's not just him taking on the Green Bay Packers, it's him taking on the guy. Who succeeded him? And as a matter of fact, you want to talk about revenge games?
I've got a few of them here. Although, was Peyton Manning against Andrew Luck a revenge game? I mean,. I don't think he was terribly happy to leave Indianapolis, but he did wind up in a spot where he won another Super Bowl. True.
Uh,. And you got Drew Brees versus Philip Rivers. Remember that one? Um When they met in 2008 for the first time, Breeze finished 3-0 and had to have meetings against Rivers. Bletso vs.
Brady. Oh. Brady was 5-1 in head-to-head meetings against Bledsoe. The first time he faced him, the Patriots won 38-7 over the Bills in 2002. And now here comes Rogers against.
Jordan Lovin, here's the crazy thing about it. is the symmetry of Rogers' career. The farves is unbelievable. the end game, where he goes to The Jets coming off of Green Bay, then he's got to go to another spot to have a chance to win a championship. He just didn't go back in division.
He went to Pittsburgh, but now he's basically back in division because the Pittsburgh Steelers play the entire NFC North this year, which is crazy. And he's taking on... Love, in the same way Favre took on Rogers. They played four times because Rogers. Because Favre went back in division.
They split their four meetings. Two and two.
So this is going to be the only shot one would think he's going to get at Jordan Love unless they face each other in the Super Bowl, then whatever. Hype that's happening this week will only be just on absolute overdrive if that happens. But I can't wait to see it. You know, it'll be a lot of fun. watching this game play out as TJ Watt.
is sent like a heat-seeking missile in the uh way of love And then Rogers is going to have to just keep his head on a swivel for a certain individual that needs to go for Dallas, that kind of thing. Can't wait. That's my top five list more. I did not know this. I was thinking of going Bills, Panthers, because the Panthers are 4-3, and the Bills are coming off a buy, and they would be 4-3 if they lose this game three in a row, and then it would be.
Red alert. in western New York, but instead I'm just going to go Niners at Texans. As we all know, D'Amico Rines used to be on the Niners staff. Robert Sala, who was the defensive coordinator there until he went and took the Jets' job.
So D'Amico Ryans took his job and then wound up getting the Texans' job. And now it's the Niners, with Sala as the defensive coordinator coming in with Mac Jones taking on the Houston Texans. At five and two, And the Texans need this ballgame. Everybody? Because the object In the rearview mirror of the Indianapolis Colts.
is as far away as you think it is. Colts are 6-1, Texans 2-4. Texans lose this one. They're 2-5 as the Colts are taking on the Titans at home. See you later, Rapia.
See you later. This has been the Texans division for the last few years. See ya. Wouldn't want to be her. Texans are favored in this game.
Okay. I don't, I don't, certainly, if Nico Collins is out, I mean, who's catching it? Yeah. Who's running it? Who's catching it?
Who's blocking it? The offense has just not been. Good enough. Hasn't been good. Pretty good enough, yeah.
So that's my top five matchups for week number eight. Presented by Hyundai, everybody. We will take a break when we come back. One of the best actors around is stopping by here to talk about his new films On the Nuremberg trials and the assassination of James Garfield. But we will also have some fun with Celebrity True or False with Michael Shannon when we come back.
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Michael Shannon is here. We just saw a clip of Nuremberg, which is available in theaters nationwide on Friday, November 7th. And then the day before, Death by Lightning, a limited four-episode. series that brings to life the uh Stranger Than Fiction, true story of the assassin of James Garfield and uh Our next guest plays James Garfield, and that Michael Shannon is here.
So, some serious subject matters, sir. I feel. I feel very fortunate to get to tell both of these stories because I admire both of these men a great deal: Robert Jackson and James Garfield. And I think the thing I admired the most about both of them is how dedicated they were to. To public service, and how much they believed that it was their responsibility.
Not just to hold a position of power, but to use the position they were in to help other people. Yeah, the accountability, obviously, that you're referring to isn't for Herman Goring and how. your character, Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson. Um got uh got him. If you will, Gott at Nuremberg.
And then you're playing James Garfield. How do you research? playing him, just just deep deep into the source material, deep into there's a beautiful uh biography uh on Garfield that it is available to any anybody who cares to read it. Um But there's a lot of scholarship and and writing about Garfield. Obviously, he's very mysterious to most people because he wasn't president all that long.
Over just 200 days or something like that, right? And he didn't want to be president to begin with. Yeah, he was he was. Yeah. You know, I it you're getting all secondhand information.
I never got to sit down and talk to the guy himself, but apparently he was unavailable. Yeah, yeah. But um but it seemed There was this balance between Devinly is he wasn't. unambitious. But he also wasn't an egomaniac, you know, and he did seem.
to be most interested in For example, the the Department of Education was Garfield's idea. Mhm. And when he was, it was something that he initiated. When he initiated at the time, it was simply the Board of Education. It didn't get to turn into a full-fledged department until some years later.
But it was his idea that the only way to have a free and equal society is that if everybody receives an education, which was such a Beautiful thing. And he had nothing to gain by instituting that for himself. He just wanted to do it for other people. And it's. It's kind of heartbreaking to see that eroding this notion that he had because I.
I think he's right. And it's, again, available for streaming on Netflix starting November 6th, the limited four-episode series. And then Nuremberg, what a cast, man. I mean, Rami Malik and also Russell Crowe, Richard E. Grant, John Slattery, Colin Hanks, who's been on the show, a couple of guys that we just mentioned have been on the program.
And Russell Crowe was a massive football fan as well. And so. based on the book The Nazi and the Psychiatrist, and I imagine that's something that you would you would take in before you take on this character in this film. Yeah, I mean it's interesting. Uh the the the story the main storyline, Nazi and Psychiatrist is is doesn't really have anything to do with Robert Jackson at all.
Right. Uh But when Jamie Vanderbilt, who wrote and directed the film, I was writing a screenplay, he thought, well, Maybe I can have my cake and eat it too.
So he's kind of telling the story from that book and also the. The Robert Jackson story. Trying to squeeze it into one container. Yeah, the psychiatrist played by Rami Malik, who's in charge of trying to attest to the mental state of Russell Crowe's Herman Goring. And again, that's a film that's available again nationwide Friday, November 7th.
Tell me about Eric LaRue. You directed this film as well, correct? Thanks for asking. Come on, we got your back here, Michael. Come on, now.
You drive to El Segundo. I'll mention every single project you've got. Drive here anytime. Yeah, uh It's my directorial debut. It it came out briefly in the theaters as You know, unfortunately, it tends to be the case nowadays, unless, you know, it's a comic book movie or something, that you you get a very short stay in the theaters.
But uh. But it you can it is available on um I believe on Apple and Amazon. You can rent it. Yeah, it's uh it's just it's a film uh I made about the the parents of a boy who commits uh a school shooting. And it's kind of it's after all the The initial hysteria is worn off.
Their son is in prison, and you just see these parents trying to figure out how to. Go on with their lives having had this happen. He's their only son, so they. They're just trying to figure out how to pick up the pieces. Um And yeah, it's got an amazing cast.
Judy Greer plays the mom, and she's just. Divine and Alexander Skarsgård plays the dead and uh Yeah, they both just knocked it out of the park, I think. Available on digital right now, as you mentioned, as we are here on the Rich Eisen Show. Michael Shannon is here. I've got a celebrity true or false for you that we play with folks with a filmography and a television list of your history, just like you.
This is, we're going to go right up your alley. Let's go. Celebrity true or false with Michael Shannon. We also have some really slick production value to kick it off. Hit it, please.
Celebrity true or false? You can't handle the truth. That's all we got. We're low budget. That's all we have.
Wow. Did you ever work with Jack Nicholson?
Well, but it's funny. On the flight out to LA I was they had The Shining on the the the movie selection.
So I did you use it? Did you I w I watched The Shining. I hadn't I hadn't seen it in a while. God, he's amazing in that movie. And all work and no play makes it.
So, Jack, that's the scene that really sticks out to me: when she's reading that, and he comes in. Oh my God, and she's got the best. She's trying to keep him away. That's one of the best scenes I've ever seen.
Well, I mean, that she realizes all the writing that he's done at the typewriter this entire time in the snow is. Yeah, yeah. I imagine you would want to you'd want to work with somebody like Kubrick or you'd heard how meticulous he was as a I don't care if if you're meticulous to to an end then I'll work with you I don't mind meticulousness I mean I've heard stories about you know How extreme it was, but I just think he's one of the greatest filmmakers ever. I love it. You chose the shining on a flight.
Yeah, that's good. It's better. Would you have chosen that if you were sitting by yourself in a hotel room in the snow, though? Would you have chosen that? Oh, gosh.
You know what I mean? That's an interesting point. It's fine if you're on a plane. All right, here, first up: true or false, Michael Shannon. Your first movie was Groundhog Day.
And you learned a lot from watching Bill Murray impromise much of his dialogue. That's true. That was true. It was the first movie. I mean, it's true to the extent it was the first movie that I was in.
Which was made by like a studio.
Okay. I might have screwed around with it because I was in Chicago at the time, like doing. Non-union theater and making no money. I think I might have made a film with the buddy. Like Just screwing around.
But that was the first professional film. You were in the diner scene, right, with him? Yeah, and then at the end, in the dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What'd you pick up from Bill Murray?
Oh gosh, I mean Because he's improvising, it's not like you can say, Oh, I'll use that because that's the whole point of improvisation. It comes and it goes. But uh I just love improvisation. I came up doing uh theater in Chicago and there's a big improv tradition there and Do you remember any line that he improvved in the scene that you're like, that was fantastic? No?
I'm testing. You're hurting my brain. Is it true? You were 18 in that movie? Yeah, I was pretty young.
You were 18, 19. Yeah, I'm 51 now.
So it was a minute ago.
So that's why I'm testing your memory right now. Yeah. Recalling it. I should have written it down. It's all right.
All right, but that is true.
Next up, true or false, you beat out Gary Sinise for the role of Greg in 8-Mile. Is that true? Oh, did he say that? The character's name is? I don't know.
That's no, no, Gary and Gray. What am I saying? Yeah, no. No, I don't know the answer to that question.
Okay. All I know is that. I play Greg Vuell in 8 mile. I don't know. If I was their first choice or their second choice, uh I think I've Gotten the benefit of a lot of Other people perhaps passing on things throughout my career.
Um, When you get that last-minute call, and they're like Yeah, you want to do this like next week? And you're like, whoa, okay. I guess somebody come and change their mind. Is that how you got eight mile? Again, I can't remember.
You can't beat him out. Who knows, Michael? I can't beat out, Gibb. What are you talking about? I don't know.
I mean, Lieutenant Dan, come on. He's got magic legs. You're right. Do you remember? I mean, Curious and East is also a bit older than I am.
Okay. And I think the whole point of it was that. Eminem's mom was going out with like a kid from his high school, which is just weird. Can confirm that is weird. Yeah, yeah.
Do you have any recollection of Eminem on the set? Sweetheart. Total gentleman. Sweetheart. Oh my God.
Love it. I just one of the sweetest people. And so. respectful and like Kind all the You know, and Because he could have easily been like, yeah, this is my town, my story, my set, you know, threw his weight around, didn't remember any of that.
Okay. Next up, true or false, Michael Shannon. You almost missed your chance to be on Boardwalk Empire because Manhattan traffic made you late for a meeting with Martin Scorsese and the writer Terrence Winter. Wow. Is that true?
That's some research. Yeah, I was m I was making some really bizarre movie. And we were shooting. Just north of New York City, uh I can't what's that town? It's some little town just up the Hudson a little bit and uh Yeah, they kept me later And they said they would.
And then I got in the car and it was just bumper-to-bumper traffic. And I knew Martin Scorsede and Terrence Winter were sitting. In a hotel room, waiting for me to show up. They'd seen everybody else, they were ready to leave. The thing was over, and they just sat there waiting, and they waited like a really long time.
Because it was just a parking lot. It was I couldn't get it. It was one of the most stressful car rides of my life. I imagined it would be. I'm sorry to bring it up, but I'm just wondering if it was true or not.
So is it true that that lengthy car ride kind of got you For lack of a better phrase, Flustered enough that you thought your character was a good guy, not the guy that you eventually played. Oh, no, I I had rides about me when I walked in there. I mean, I it what I thought was based on how Terrence described the character to me. Um, you know, he's like, uh Yeah, he d he he he didn't he didn't He didn't quite fill me all the way in. But that's the way it is with TV.
Things. start and then they change and then people have ideas and and, um So you had no idea how dark your character really was when you took the role? I well, I yeah. I I I I thought when that started happening that eventually he would have a o some sort of reawakening or epiphany and go back to I di it seemed like it would be that kind of journey of falling and risi, you know, rising back up, but It just he just kept falling. Yes, he certainly is.
By the way, anybody who watches that show can confirm he kept falling. There's no doubt about that. When next up, True or Falls, when Shape of Water won the Oscar for Beck's best picture you were watching on T V at a Chicago bar? That's true. Yeah, there's a photograph of that.
But I think. Oh, there it is, actually. I think what's important to acknowledge is that I wasn't. At the bar, I love beer. I was at the bar because I had directed a play in Chicago And That was the closing night of the play and I hadn't been able to see it Like the entire run, and I felt my poor cast, it was a really big cast.
They had been doing a play throughout the winter through very inclement weather. Blizzards, ice. I mean, they all got sick. I was like, these people are heroic.
So I wanted to be there for closing night and thank them. for their for their service And it just happened to be coincide with the night that the the Oscars war. And so you just went to the bar and just said, well, that's the first time you're going to be able to do that.
Well, that's where you don't see in that picture is the rest of the cast.
Okay, so that was the party after the performance. Because at present, in the National Football League League, I didn't go see the play and then go to the bar by myself. No, we were all there. At present, in the National Football League, the quarterback Joe Flacco says he used to look at guys by themselves sitting there eating by themselves and thinking it was sad.
Now that he has children, he thinks that that's actually blissful. Paradise. That's what he's interested in saying right now. I see. But that's not what that is.
No, it was just, you know, and frankly, one of the proprietors of the bar was like. It was his idea to take the picture. He thought it would be cool. He thought it would be funny. I didn't think at the time when he took it that I would be talking about it for the next decade of my life.
That's how it is in this business. That's what I'm saying. You get generals out, you're like, yay, wow, what a great part. And then 10 years later, you're signing fungo dolls. Like, why did I do this?
Yeah. All right, finishing up with celebrity true or false with Michael Shannon. True or false, the cast of Knives Out all had individual trailers, but never used them and instead hung out together in the basement in the house. Between scenes. Is that true?
Yeah, that's true. I mean Except for, I mean, Christopher Plummer, who was significantly older than the rest of us and needed his rest. But. Yeah. Yeah, everybody got along.
Oh my god, we had so much fun. What are you doing in the basement? Just talking, you know, they put director chairs around, we all just sit around there. I mean, 'cause if you go back to the trailer, you're just sitting there by yourself waiting, but if you've Sitting in the circle with everybody else, you know, people telling stories. I mean, Frank Oz showed up for a couple of days.
I was like sitting there with Frank Oz. Shooting uh Shooting the bullshit. What do you ask him about? Being Fozzie Bear or being in the Blues Brothers or like, what do you ask him about? Frank Oz.
He didn't direct. He didn't know. He didn't direct Groundhog Day. That was Harold Raymond. Oh, that was Harold Raymond.
Sure, right. Yeah, I had never met Frank Guys before he showed up. on that set. But um I mean I hear this and I think maybe you're playing Twister with Daniel Craig or something like that in the you know like board games in the basement or something, you know? Yeah, there were no there were no games.
There was a there was a I think there was a pool table down there. Yeah, there was a pool table. It was the best in the casting pool. I mean, nobody was. That's why it's called knives out.
It's not called Q-Sticks Out.
Okay, very good. It's not the hustler. Last one for you: true or false, during one of your performances on Broadway. An audience member once vomited from the balcony into the orchestra section. Yeah, that was my first The first time I was on Broadway, this play called Grace that I did with Paul Rudd.
Oh. And uh my ex-wife Kate and uh Ed Asner. It was the four of us.
Okay. And you were all on stage and Something happened? Yeah, we were doing this scene. There was this scene where me and Paul and Kate are having dinner and it's it's it's pretty heavy scene and it's it's kind of dense and Just ladder. complicated dialogue and it takes a lot of concentration and And there was some commotion going on in the audience.
And I started getting frustrated. I was like, what? I'm literally talking about I I have this speech about space and how it's So quiet out in space. And as I'm doing the speech, there's somebody out there like, I'm like, this isn't working.
So, um. Then I go upstage. And the stage is one of the stage managers is right there and I said, What what's going on out there? And he's like Somebody. Just through.
Well, But he threw up in the back. Can he? And they went into the Orchestra. Down. I was like, oh my god.
Then I felt. I felt guilty for getting frustrated. Yes. But you're an actor, you're a professional. And somebody's, you know, that's it.
Yeah. You prefer, you know. You prefer just hushed attention. Of course. And then no one's vomiting on top of anybody.
I mean, that's a heck of an orchestra, C. Yeah, yeah. But I that's um That's a story that we'll all have forever. That is true. It will stand the test of time.
Hey, man, congrats on everything going on with you. Nuremberg is available in theaters nationwide. What a cast. on Friday, November 7th. The day before is when you can Go to Netflix and begin the limited four episode series on the uh The show called Death by Lightning about the assassination of James Garfield.
And then right now, available on digital, Eric Lerue, your first ever directing feature film. Great to see you, sir. Thank you, Rich. Anytime. Let's not wait another 10 years.
Yeah, yeah. How's that sound? 10 years, I mean. Yeah, we gotta we gotta We got to make it more frequent. Yeah, let's do that.
I greatly appreciate it. And that was a fun celebrity true or false with Michael Shannon right here on the Rich Eising Show. We're back to Disney Plus, the ESPN app, and ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance in a moment. The Rich Heisen Show, the podcast. Back here on The Rich Eisen Show, ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance.
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Blake Snell is in the World Series. Remember last time he was in the World Series? The Dodgers were happy he was taken out of the game. Indeed. Right.
That was way back when, when everyone's like, okay, Dodgers, let's see you do it when it's not half a season. A third of a season. Third of a season. COVID year, asterisk. Uh none of those anymore.
Been away a long time, they don't shine shoes no more. Go get your shine box. Everyone else has got to get their shine box. They're the defending World Series champs. Looking as good as they've looked all year long.
They've got it all straightened out. They got a closer, they got all sorts of. They got all sorts of everything that they need. And um including uh Shoei Otani. Coming off of the incredible clinching performance in game four, in which he.
Struck out 10 people and hit three home runs. And um That's all? What has he done? I mean, if he was a real baller, he would hit 400. And it's interesting, he's in Toronto.
Last time he was in Toronto, I believe, I don't think they've played since then, the Dodgers and the Blue Jays in Toronto. Since he's joined the Dodgers, a lot of people in Toronto were hoping he was going to join the Blue Jays because he did go there to. See if he wanted to play there. We all know he wound up with the Dodgers. And I guess they gave him a hat.
And A jacket, like a dog jacket for his dog. Oh, fine. And uh the uh manager of the Blue Jays um John Schneider bringing it up here. uh in in his pregame uh pregame one press conference. You never know.
You know, I think when we met with him, You felt good about it, you know, and you felt good about the feedback he was giving about our organization and opportunity here. But you never really know what a player's feeling in free agency, and there's a lot of things that have to line up for them personally, too. Um You can't really think about what if. You know, you think about the 26 that we have, he's a great player. I'll say it again.
I hope he brought his hat, the Blue Jay hat that he took from us in our meeting. I hope he brought it back finally. And the jacket for decoy, you know, it's like, give us our stuff back already.
Okay. Hey man, the Blue Jays are one. They're a bunch of people to root for. And listen, they eliminated the Yankees. It was really tough to watch them.
And, you know. Obviously Vlad Jr. You saw the picture of him as a kid standing next to his dad. He wants to give his dad a ring. Sure.
Dad couldn't do it for Montreal. Maybe son could do it for Toronto. They've been a wagon all year. And, you know, this is what I love about baseball as well. The young and the old, okay?
Let's start with the young here. This kid being a young kid now, being a grown-ass man and trying to win it for his dad. Cooper, my 14-year-old goes to camp in Maine, told me about a game he went. To go see at the double-a Portland Sea Dogs game. Hadlock Fields.
Okay, against the Fisher Cats. He went to this game and he told me about it because Connerly Early, who started game three in the wildcard round for the Red Sox, was a starting pitcher for the Sea Dogs that day. He goes, Dad, I saw the starting pitcher for a wildcard. A starting pitch for a wild card game three. Do you know who was the pitcher who started for the Fisher Cats that day?
I'm guessing it was Trey Yusavich. That is correct. The starting pitcher for the. Blue Jays in Game One of the World Series tonight. And I said that to Cooper this morning.
I'm like, Cooper, if somebody came up to you in the stands that day and say, oh, by the way, game three wild card starter. is there. Game one World Series starter is there. And both pitchers got... Knocked around in a 10-5 game and double-A ball, and here it is in the playoffs, and they are on fire, and it doesn't matter.
You catch fire in baseball. You're in. You're in the show. I can't get enough of it. It's this kid's seventh career start tonight.
And he's starting in the World Series 14. It's Dodgers. And the first person he's going to face is Otani. To lead off the World Series. Kids.
Make it up. And then you need to take advantage of this stuff when you are this young. Because you never know if you're going to get another chance again. And there are so many who have played this game who have never gotten a chance. And I'm going to get emotional.
My favorite player in the history. of my baseball existence. Donald Arthur Mattingly is In the dugout for the Blue Jays, he is going to be. In a World Series dugout for the first time in his life, and I am getting emotional about it. My daughter's middle name is Manningly.
I can't make it up, man. Baseball car binder over here with a bunch of Don Mattingly cards in it. Like, I was a big fan, too. Mattingly is in the World Series tonight for the Blue Jays against the defending champion Dodgers. Let's go.
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