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October 2, 2025 3:54 pm

Charlie Sheen shares stories from his career, including his experiences with Oliver Stone on Platoon and Wall Street, and his time on the set of Major League, where he discusses the challenges of playing a baseball player and the iconic scenes that have become a part of baseball movie history.

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And the documentary, and the man Charlie Shannon. Thank you. Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you.

That was quite the introduction. It's the only introduction I could possibly have. Nice. Again, I spotted you in the old. I don't know if it was.

Qualcomm, yeah, it was definitely old Jack Murphy Stadium. Yeah, yeah, it was. I actually, uh, Todd and I researched it in the car coming here. Yes, it was Qualcomm. It was Qualcomm back in the day, and I was the first ever studio host of Major League Baseball on ESPN Radio, and I got a choice of anybody in the building I could interview during the middle of the fifth inning.

And I saw you. And I went up to you. We had a nice chit chat. Yes, we did. Yeah, but it was more about the time we spent together in our seats during the game.

That's right. Before we went on the air. That's right. Yeah. When we were at a nice chat.

Yes, we did. And had I revealed to you that I had gotten a day pass. From rehab to fly down there to attend that game. That I did that part of that. Also, you told you were very upfront, Charlie, about a lot.

Yes. You told me also that you watched me and Stewart. Scott, all the time on Sports Center. Yes. You said that you would watch us live at 11 o'clock Pacific.

And then you would watch us over and over and over again because you were having some issues staying sober. Yes. And you would watch us over and over and over again to the point where. You knew what I was going to say before I would say it. In the rear, we start quoting you in unison.

Like White Dave, myself, Nick. And so, yeah, we were speaking it with you. In fact, I told Todd that story in the car coming here as well. I remember it like it was yesterday. And it's like, so you were, you were like at our parties.

You just didn't have to suffer any of the fallout like the rest of us. You were safely tucked away up above the bar. I was safely tucked away, probably sleeping, you know, that when like the re-air at five in the morning is on the air. I was cycle, yes. Yeah.

A different time, like that there would be a show that's already in the can, shown seven different times in the morning as opposed to live.

Now we're live on all these other things. But it's almost like I conjured you in those moments to then have that cosmic collision course at the World Series. I know, and you were so cool about it. We had a nice chat and we got to meet there and you're such a die-hard baseball fan. I'll be honest with you.

I had no idea. Your team is the Reds. Oh, yeah. Has been. For the last What's today?

Yeah, the last 50 years. No kidding. How about that? No, and you showed me you got the Cincinnati logo on your right forearm right there. I can see that.

It's a little faded. Why the Reds, though? Why the Reds? Dad's from Dayton.

Okay. And it was just the first team that we rooted for in our household. And the first two years I rooted for him, they won. Back-to-back World Series. That was when I was growing up in New York City and starting to root for the Yankees.

And the Yankees got swept by the big red machine. They did. And then Reggie showed into town and yada, yada, yada, things changed. Right, right, right. Yeah.

I think the Reds have an active, like currently, have a nine-game winning streak. In the World Series. Ah, that's right. Right? You just got to get them back there.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, that's the conundrum. That's the conundrum. Yeah, because they won the final game in 75, all four in 76. And then they sweep the A's in 90. Yes.

So there it is. And it's still active. It is. You just got to get him back. You've got to act upon it.

Yeah, there's just decades between, you know. You ever meet Rose, Pete Rose? Yes. Yeah. We spent a lot of time with him.

What was that like? Yeah, he was a trip. He was. And it wasn't just meeting him. It was watching an entire game with him at Dodger Stadium one night.

Where we didn't plan on, you know, we didn't go together. Sure. I just showed up and sat down, and I'm with Pete Rose.

So I got to see the game through his managerial brain. And he said something I'll never forget. He says, and, you know, we're on Disney, so I can't use the exam. The exact verbiage. Um Frickin' incarnation.

Has turned Griffey into a leadoff hitter three times tonight. Wow. Which I thought was like, oh, I didn't look at it like that. Meaning that Griffey could have come up with men on base, but they got the previous batter out to end the inning. Exactly.

Interesting. He would come on and he would basically say he doesn't understand why golfers talk about how difficult it is to play that sport because the ball doesn't move. He makes a great point. Is what he would always say. Because at least the ball I'm trying to hit moves, is what he would say.

Yeah, and everybody's whispering on a golf course. In a baseball stadium, it's just the same thing to you that night as well. It's interesting.

So you're a Reds fan, and Rob Lowe, I know who you've known since childhood, right? Sure. He's from Ohio also. He is indeed. Yes.

Boy, did he really get it over the last couple of days, too?

Okay, from Dodger fans saying, you know, what happened here? How can you root for both? You know what I mean?

So I didn't need to pile on. That already happened to him. No, no, he really got it.

Well, I was going to reach out to Chad and his younger brother and say, do you have a shot of us at Dodger Stadium in the 80s with Rob in full Reds gear? Yes. Because we used to go there and be like this lone pocket of fandom for the Reds. He was just here, Rob, last week, I think, right? He was.

He was just here last week. Did he explain any of that?

Well, we didn't know that the Reds were going to make it. We thought the Reds were going to make it at the time.

So we didn't front load it. But he did tell a story about Meeting your dad for the first time because we brought up obviously your dad because he acted with him in West Wing. Sure. And he said he met your dad for the first time in the neighborhood. On a Halloween night, trick-or-treating, and your dad, your dad had a baseball batch wearing fatigues, maybe from Apocalypse Now, trying to make sure that no one was going to egg your house.

Hiding behind a bush. Yeah, I think he said. Is that in his book as well? No, he literally said it in that chair a week ago. Interesting.

And did he claim also that dad was wearing his helmet from Apocalypse? He said fatigues that could have been from Apocalypse, is what he said. I mean, does he have a photo of this moment? I don't believe so. Just a photographic memory?

Nah, yes. Are you saying that your dad wasn't patrolling the area on a Halloween night for preventing your house from being egged? I mean, I'd like to believe that I spent more time with my dad on Halloweens than Rob did. And nothing that remotely resembles that ever took place. But hey, maybe it was that one Halloween when I was out of town.

It could have been. You could have been trick-or-treating yourself. Maybe I'd already shot Platoon and I'd left my fatigues behind. Could have been that. Dad was wearing those.

Could have been all of that. But you go back with Rob, right? You like all that? Yeah, we do. Yeah.

Neighborhood. Yes, and Dodger Stadium in Redscape. In Red Scare. I'm just saying.

So, what do you make of Otani Charlie when you see him, man? I mean, he's on, we've never seen anybody like him. No, it's when they say a unicorn, it's an understatement. You know, what's the next example or analogy that's more unique? Than a unicorn.

I don't, whatever that is, it's him, right? Yeah, an invisible unicorn? I mean, I don't know. Or maybe they're all invisible, which is why we never see them. That could be it.

He's a visible unicorn. He's a visible unicorn. That's the one. I think we finally landed on it here. Yeah, I know.

It's a skill set. It's just, it's just, it's at a different level. You know, it's, wow. And, and, yeah, I think, you know, that, that we are blessed, granted, with this, at least for the next, what, 15 years? Seems like it.

Maybe 20? It seems like he could play forever. Certainly, if he's just DHing and he's going to pitch game one against the Phillies. Oh, boy. They announced it already.

Wow. I know. It's going to be his first playoff pitching appearance. Because we saw last year he didn't even pitch, and the Dodgers went ahead and won the World Series one. Yeah, interesting.

And because he got injured, was it game two or was it a little bit later? Because he wasn't that much of a factor in that series. Right. You know? Last year.

Yeah. Correct. He wasn't. Yeah, he was banged up.

Now he's. He's ready to roll. It's unbelievable. But I mean, why not just put him on? Why not just bonds him?

And no matter what. No matter what.

Well, the issue is there's bets in Freeman. Yeah. If you bonds him. You know, like it was at one point, I think it was. I think it was the night that Kershaw finished up his...

His regular season pitching career in Dodger Stadium the other night. Um that Freeman It was Betts and Otani on the base pads and Freeman at the plate. Freeman knocks in Otani and sends. Bets from first to third, and there was a shot of all three of them running the base pass. And I'm like, that's a half a billion dollars running the paths.

You know, like just one-third of their team. Sure. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And so. That's why I guess you don't bond him, is those two are behind. And if Hernandez is going to hit two home runs like he did last night, that's the issue of bond. But it's a great idea that, you know, Judge might be bonds tonight against the Red Sox.

You know what I mean?

Sure. We could see how that happens.

So if you were still buying out an entire section, you would do that for which player right now would you do that for right now if you could buy out an entire. Because you did do that, right? I did that. That's true. Like April of 96.

Who did you do this for? I did it for. Cecil Fielder. Yes. Okay.

Well, what an inheim. At the Big A.

Okay. So you got an entire section.

Well, I called and I just, you know, because I wanted to sit in that section and they said, well, that section's you know, it's it's an underattended game. That section's closed. And I said, okay, uh, what about this? How many seats are in that section? They were like, uh, twenty two hundred.

And I said, what if I wanted to buy all of them? And I said, what kind of break could you cut me? What kind of deal could you swing? And? Uh they I think it came out to something like seven thousand.

So, what does that break? That's like four bucks, three twenty seconds. Four bucks a seat for a right field because of him, right?

Okay, left field. What intrigued you about Cecil Fielder so much? Just that it was because I wanted to force the hand of the baseball god, gods, hands of the gods, and not just get a, you know, catch a. A foul ball, but catch a home run ball. And so I figured if I've got the entire left field stands.

With a couple buddies of mine. I've stacked the deck. And you brought your glove, too, right? I did. I did.

Yeah, I mean, we were hammered. We barely made it. We barely made it to the game.

Somewhere online, there's an interview during, afterwards, getting there. Yes. With oh, gosh, with fits. CBS Sportscaster. It is documented.

Okay. Yes. On the way to the stadium. Yes, and there's also a great shot in s in Sports Illustrated of me standing like this with a glove and like the empty stands behind me. We we didn't catch anything that night.

Nothing. Nothing. Not even from anybody else. Nothing. Nothing.

And the next night, in like not just in that section, like in our seats, four home runs were about that. You can't force the hand of the baseball game. They call it a game of inches, but it's really the timing's everything. Yeah, it really is. What did Cecil Fielder do in that series?

That entire series, I looked it up. He was 0 for 14. Amazing. Amazing. Wow.

Wow. But a nice try, though. Hey, you know. Couldn't do that today, right? I mean, I don't know of any stadium where.

But who would the player be that you would want to catch a home run ball that you would buy out an entire section? of a stadium and obviously it wouldn't be as Inexpensive as $7,000. No, I wouldn't be able to do it. Which player would it be? It would be $50,000 or $60,000, if not $100, right?

Yeah, for sure.

Well, the problem with Otani is the power to all fields.

So you'd buy out the whole thing and write. And then Judge. I think Judge Power All Fields. Exactly. I think a guy you could predictably or at least hopefully wind up in the gun sights of his bat would be Schwarber.

I would call, I was literally about to say, the problem is sometimes you have to buy the outside part of the stadium as well. There's that. Depending on which stadium you choose. But the higher you get, the cheaper it gets. Oh, awesome.

So now we're back into the 15-20 range. Like third-level right fields. Right. Right. I think we're on to something.

But I'm not going to do what that lady did and go yank it away from my kid if I don't get. Did you see that? What the hell was that all about? At that point, it's like that person just first of all needs to stay home most of the time, right? I agree.

And if you're gonna go out, don't go to an environment like that. That seemed like really triggery for her. Yes, where she could be triggered by a child. That's number one. What, Philly Karen?

Is her new name? Is that what they mean? Philadelphia Karen. Wow. Yeah, you're going to want to.

Yeah, the kid did eventually get what he needs. Yes. Yeah, I saw that. It had a happy ending. It did.

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Back on ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance Charlie Sheen. is here. Is there anything in this documentary that you learned? that you didn't know. At all, that you learned something from your own documentary that's now on Netflix right now.

Interesting. You mean like a story that someone else told? Yeah, that you were like, wow, I didn't even know that, that you're watching it back. Ah, gosh, nothing that comes to mind right here, right now on, I don't know, live television. No.

Okay. No.

Not really.

So everything was. Oh, you mean, were there any like surprises? Yeah, where you were watching your documentary back.

Now that you were seeing all the interviews from all the people in your life that sat down for it. Yeah. You're like, oh, I didn't even know that. There is one thing.

Okay. I thought by now. that John Cryer um Would have gotten over everything or been a little less bristly about. Certain things, um, but that's all right. That's all right.

Uh, because you could tell, ha ha have you seen the doc? Yes, sir. He was still kind of he was even backpedaling or or or suspicious about would this dock ever Make it to television, you know? Make it on the air. Yeah, you can pick up a vibe.

So you picked up the vibe, is what you're saying. A little bit.

Okay, so that surprised you. That surprised me, yeah.

Okay. But I'm not hacking on John. John's a lovely man, and he was a dream co-star for the better part of a decade, you know. I mean, the number of times that two and a half men videos show up in my Instagram algorithm, I've lost track. It's constantly showing up, you know?

I think it's more popular now than when it was broadcast. Originally. And it was pretty damn popular when it was broadcast originally.

Well, I'm sure. Yeah. It definitely worked out for sure. And again, that documentary, aka Charlie Sheen, is available for streaming exclusively on Netflix. We've got a celebrity true or false all set up for you, Charlie Sheen, to basically go down your filmography here.

Some of it may have already been asked and answered, but to heck with it. We have a celebrity true or false with Charlie Sheen. Hit it, please. Celebrity true or false. You can't handle the truth.

There you go. Nice. Did you ever work with Nicholson? You ever work with Jack? Never did.

Never once. Did you ever cross paths with Jack? Never mind. Just at the Laker games in the 80s. Yeah?

Oh, yeah. Just stroll past him? Yeah, you know, at halftime they'd have that lounge and go. Oh, yeah. One one like I saw him coming in and I'd just gotten engaged to my first wife, Donna, and I and I saw Jack and he goes, Well, that's really that's good news for the rest of us.

No no. You know, um that was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. Taking you off the board was good news for Jack. Just that he knew that I was alive was cool enough, you know, but to then see value in my decisions, you know?

Man. All right, first up: true or false, Charlie Sheen. You stayed awake for 48 hours before shooting your scene in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I mean, true and false. I did stay awake, but it wasn't 48 hours.

Okay. No.

Because I was 19. I hadn't hadn't built up yet that that that kind of uh stamina stamina. Yeah. So this is that's not makeup on you right there? Or or what?

Yeah, they're adding to what was already there. I I I j I overslept.

Okay. But I only stayed up until like three in the morning.

Okay. And I hadn't been up since the day before for the math to work for 40 hours.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

So that's an exaggeration. Yeah, there was no dope in the mix. That's the thing. Yeah. There was just like a, you know, trying to be cool and method.

So, where were you in your? This was the very beginning of your career, right? Early on. John Hughes directing. Yes.

And Jennifer Gray was in the scene with you. Jennifer got me the job. How so? She told John Hughes, I think I know who should play this role. And the character's name is Garth.

Yes. Um and he said, Who who might that be? And she said My friend Charlie Sheen. And so I went down there, and this is in the book and the doc, and thought I was going to audition, didn't. He just looked at how I'd prepared and what I was wearing and said, Oh, Greg, we'll see you in a week.

I was like, oh, okay. And then I showed up in a week, just not at the time they said I was supposed to be there. And so it's pretty funny because Jennifer was like really mad. She was on a heater when I rolled in. Because she put herself up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was showing up like a rank amateur, you know? And so in those first few shots in that police station where you see her. You know, that is all genuine. There's no acting on her part.

Because she's legit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, who knew you were helping her get into character? Did you at least tell her that afterwards?

Hey, no, but I mean, I think this many years later, you should. It's pretty apparent.

Next one up: true or false, Oliver Stone made the cast of Platoon go through a pre-shoot boot camp. Everyone was treated according to the rank of their character in the movie. True, like true all caps true. How so, all caps. Just that, yeah, it was an intense three weeks.

in the Philippine jungle. Completely cut off from the outside world. We dug our own foxholes and lived in them. Nobody showered for three weeks. And yeah, you were treated.

You went only by your character name and whatever rank you were in the platoon is how you you know, where you fell on that on that ladder. Too seriously, or you're just being pros here, like where they treated the rank like maybe knocking you down a peg because they were getting into the role of being outranking you or anything like that. Anything in that regard? Charlie? Yeah, there was a couple times.

Yeah. I mean, there's a term in the military. It's the FNG. Yes, okay. The freaking new guy.

Okay, so I got a lot of that. From who? From Barringer, a little bit, from McGinley. McGinley. Yeah, from Captain Dale Die.

Yeah, but that was just because we had to feel what that specific detail might feel like. Did you save one of your fellow actors in the shoot of Platoon? Like, literally save one of their lives as well? No, I got saved by a fellow actor by Keith David, who plays King in the movie.

Okay. It was a helicopter sequence that. We we were supposed to just go up and Oliver just wanted some Just some shots like buzzing the tree line and just inserts of us and shooting over our shoulders out into those canopies. And we hit a wind shear and the chopper like pitched left and my feet were on the skid and I could, you know, we weren't harnessed in. Damn.

I know. And so I started feeling myself like leaving the helicopter. And this hand. Like Grabbed the back of my web gear and just held me until the chopper righted itself. And yeah, it was a trip.

I mean, it was.

Well, I mean, when you're going through this boot camp, were there any, I guess, flashbacks, for lack of better phrase, to you being a kid on the set of Apocalypse Now with your dad? Impossible not to have them. Yeah. And maybe not so much flashbacks, but just trying to come to terms with the reality that I was just here, well, not just, but 10 years earlier while Dad, you know, with Dad, and he's narrating his Vietnam film. And I come back a decade later to narrate mine.

And literally, like some of the sets and apocalypse, based on where we shot platoon, were. You know, a quarter mile away. Like we were in the same region. Damn. Yeah.

I gotta freak you out a little bit. Yeah, that's the only thing I had to sort of sort of just fight through: that, all right, this was meant to be, this is, this is, this is, it's, it's my turn, and that's okay. But it was. Yeah, who could have predicted that? Yeah, I wonder if you would tell Berringer who's the new guy around here.

And I was here as an 11-year-old. What the hell? You know, I should have been giving it to you. Thank you. That's what you should have been doing.

You're absolutely right. You're just being professional. I understand. Yes. Thank you.

Speaking of Oliver Stone, next up, Charlie Sheen, true or false. Oliver let you choose between Jack Lemon and Martin Sheen to play your father in Wall Street. Is that true? Wow. I.

He did mention Jack, but I don't know that it was. They're both available. Choose one.

Okay, so that's false then. Um I just can't remember if he told me after the fact that after dad got the part that he was seriously considering Jack Lemon. What was that like acting with your dad in an Oliver Stone movie like Wall Street? What was that like? It was amazing.

It was amazing. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't really bringing my A-game during Wall Street. There was a lot of distractions. A lot of fun stuff going on that wasn't taking place at Jackson Steinem. That's our trading firm.

That's Bug Fox. I'm aware of that. Yeah. But no, it was. Especially that scene in the elevator.

I mean, come on, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I cover that in the book. That.

You know, he's dad, dad, dad can be a little bit crafty when he wants to be.

Well, I mean, I know you got into the book, but if you want to reveal a little bit for our audience here about it, no, he never, that classic line where, you know, the size of his wallet, you know, that thing, he never did that in a rehearsal. That happened in the first take when they rolled. And so I'm just waiting for it as he was doing it. And suddenly, it's, you know, half my face is. on the on the elevator wall right you know right um Yeah, no, it's a different level of surprise.

You know, hopefully more than Rob got in fatigues with a ball bat on Halloween. Call back for a second, right? I appreciate that. But Mike Deltufo, I don't know if you could see through the cameras. You're going to hold that one up right now.

Oh, my gosh. Wow. A brick phone, which was signed by a previous guest on this show named Michael Douglas. Really? That's amazing.

I don't know if that's a brick phone. Then he said he signed it, a.k.a. Gordon. Wow. If you wouldn't mind before leaving it, you signed the other side of it as Bud Fox.

I'd be insulted if I wasn't asked to talk about it. I can't do that. That's great. Because that is just one of the greatest scenes of him saying, This is your wake-up call, pal. Go to work.

Is it get to work or go to work? Go to work. Go to work. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Two lines that are amazing. I mean, it obviously hugely. What was that like having a front row seat? Again, I know that things are going a little crazy in your life, but it's watching Michael Douglas work in that role of Gordon Gecko. But you mentioned it as a front row seat.

Yes, sir. And that's really accurate because there were times when. You know, I got caught just. Enjoying his performance. Right.

And then it's like, oh, my line, my line. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, Mr. Gecko.

You know, why would I think differently?

So. Yeah, no, it was. I can't sit here and say, well, he was obviously going to win the Oscar, but there was something really special going on. um with it you know just with the energy that that he brought to it you know Do you know in the famous Greed is Good speech, I think it was like the second or third take and we were in a ballroom and there was, you know, 200 extras and Michael's in the middle of just, you know, what has become one of the great speeches in cinema history. And at one point, Michael stops the take.

And he says, Hey, Oliver, I'm over here. Because Oliver, during that whole speech, had his face buried in the script, like making sure he got all the words right. That's in the book. No, no, but he's not watching the performance. Like, who cares if he changed a word or went off book or something, right?

So he's just like, and he. And he looks up and he just Alder didn't say anything. He just kind of nodded. Yeah. In the book I say, in that moment, I wanted to buy Michael Douglas a new car.

Yeah. By the way, I have the same feeling whenever I'm on my phone and my daughter's talking. You know what I mean?

Like, that's like, hey, I'm over, like, we're talking here. Right, right.

So the reason that he would be able to be in the scene and notice what the director's doing behind the camera, not looking. That's crazy. He's playing it out for the whole audience, and I guess he caught Oliver back there and he's like, you need to watch me. I love it.

Okay, moving on. Charlie Sheen, celebrity true or false. Oh, we're still in the true or false thing. Oh, jeez.

Okay. No, I mean, this is the way we go down the memory lane here. Producers for Major League move the mound up 10 feet to make your fastball appear to go faster. My God. True or false.

Very false.

Okay. Very false.

Okay, Ricky Vaughan was really bringing it. 60.6, absolutely. Come on. Yeah. No, I mean, I probably topped out at 84, 85.

That was great. But that was, you know, that was enough to create that, you know, 90. Yeah. So you're okay. You're not pitching from 50 feet.

No.

Six inches. No.

I like that you felt like. Did you get a sense of he's insulted by that question? Yeah, he definitely offended. Were you insulted by that question? I guess, right there.

A little bit.

A little bit.

Insult you a little bit. Good fellas. Insult you a little bit. You're maybe more baffled by it than insulted. Yeah.

I'm just. I'm just. I'm just a guy reading stuff on the internet to see if it's true or false, Charlie.

So, okay. What was it like shooting that movie, man? Amazing. Amazing. It was.

The only thing I didn't have the benefit of, because people are like, oh man, it must have been so much fun and exciting. It's like, yes and no, because it's so tedious. You got to get all the pieces. But then. You know, I wasn't part of like a five-man rotation, and so I didn't get any rest days.

I wasn't like charting pitches after I, you know, icing down? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, icing down, cortisone, yeah, all types of stuff. Anti-inflammatory, yeah. Because I would throw.

150 pitches until 3 o'clock in the morning, come back the next day and throw 100 more. And there was no, because that's just how the schedule was built, you know. And then the most iconic shot, or one of the most iconic, you know, coming out of the bullpen, you know, as the first notes of Wild Thing drop. That was like four in the morning. And there were like 50 people still there.

And when they had to like. Positioned them in a way where they filled just the part of the stands that you see as I'm coming out, you know. But it was cool to see it in the movie. It was just like. You had a good hero entrance.

You got a good euchre store? Bob Euchre? Is he on the set-along?

Well, it's yes, he was, but he's kind of isolated up in the bush. He was shooting his own stuff. He wasn't down on the field. You were down on the field, yeah. Yeah, I went fishing with him one day just on a day off.

What was that like? He just invited me. It was really cool. He knew a lot about fishing. I'm sure he's really impressed.

Yeah, he's a backup catcher. I mean, I imagine it's what he would do every now and then. There's that. You know what I mean?

There's that. Yeah, no, what a lovely man, though. Geez, and I'd see him over the years, you know?

Well, I mean, that is. As iconic a line of a movie or any sports movie ever, of just a bit outside. And yeah, and you can find it at least once in almost every single baseball broadcast. No question. Yeah.

No doubt about it. I mean, it's as great as they come. All right, last one for you: Charlie Sheen, true or false, you are considered for Tim Robbins' roles in both Bolturum and Shawshank Redemption.

Well, Shawshank, no. Shawshank, in my mind, I was considering. Yeah, but Bull Durham, for sure, because the producer. Mark Berg became my manager after, you know, years later, but was always a fan.

So it really came down to Major League or Bull Durham. Because didn't they sort of both happen at the same time? Gotcha.

So it was, how did you wind up in Major League and not Bull Durham then? Do you think? I didn't really, I didn't find out about Bull Durham until after the fact. I think I'd agreed to do a Major League by the time they were going to approach me and knew that I wouldn't be available, you know? Huh.

Um I I I mean as much as great as Bull Durham is um I think I wound up in the in the right Baseball film of the two. Why would you say that? Just for because you could pitch or you What? Like I mean Nuke Lelouch would be Well, but he yeah, but we never I mean you know, I was I I was in the show, you know.

Okay. Great answer. She's not going to the mind. She wasn't fuzzy. She was a dancer-looking, you know?

Oh my God. That is so funny. I mean, it's true, right? Yeah. You were in the show.

You're not going down a triple-A, man. No.

That is so funny. Oh, I'm right on. Thank you. Oh, my God. Eight Man Out is also an incredible.

And by the way, that's a movie you don't call a movie, right? Eight Men Out is just spectacular. I know. Yeah, I've only I've seen it once, maybe twice. Yeah, I haven't I haven't studied the film.

Yeah, it was it was uh it was it was it was Cool to be part of that ensemble. Yes. You know, I just, it wasn't the best career move to follow up Wall Street with. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Okay. So that's why I'm a little prickly about that one.

Okay. It is, again, I understand in terms of career. It's incredible.

Okay, cool. It really is an unbelievable movie. I love it, and it is well. Thank you. It is one that.

You know, doesn't get mentioned for great sports movies that should. I think John Sales is an outstanding director, great cast. And it is a story, you know. That stands the test of time that we're still talking about today. Sure.

You know, I can bring it all full circle with Pete Rose and everything, but that's a celebrity true or false that I knew was going to be as good as it turned out to be. Let's talk about your beer here before I let you go, sir. Wild AF and the AF, everybody stands for alcohol-free. Yes. And what's the agenda?

How did this? How did this? That gentleman sitting over on the other side of your studio. called me. We've been working together for years and he says, how do you feel about NA beer?

And I said, well, I don't have a lot of experience with it because back when I was still drinking, what would be the point? But then I spent a lot of time getting up to speed with how that category had evolved and what was available. And I was blown away. And then, geez, a month later, we're on a plane to Boston to sit with Harpoon Brewery. And we start talking about, we start talking about this beer.

And it took about two and a half years. Um I was working on the dock and the book and the beer all at the same time.

So this isn't something we just bolted on because there's suddenly all this media attention. No, this was this was, and what's amazing about it is I'm not a spokesperson for it. I mean, in this moment, I sort of am. Yes, sir. But I'm a co-founder.

Okay. You know, and it's like really good. I mean, it's excellent. It's not a mock tail. It's actual beer.

Just without the alcohol, you know? It's available mid-November to those who have pre-ordered, available in stores early 2026. Get on right now by going to wildafbrewing.com. Get the book, The Book of Sheen, wherever you get your books, and also check out on Netflix the new two-part documentary, aka Charlie Sheen. We barely scratched the surface of the things I wanted to talk about.

We have to come back. Done.

Okay. Done and done, Sam. Awesome. That's true. How is Monday, Sam?

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Quote today at progressivecommercial.com. What a blast. That went as well as I I had hoped. Martin Tuz sleep is now on the breakphone. Unbelievable.

And it was awesome. On the other side of Michael Douglas signing. He gave a lot of thought, too. It wasn't just like he sat there for a minute and he thought what he wanted to write. And then he was a little bit more.

Speaking of giving thought. It's a Thursday, and we end this Thursday show with another edition of Higher Register. And again, folks, if you're new to this, it's We Say Statements. predicting what we think is going to happen in the upcoming week of the National Football League, but you have to go higher registered to kind of believe it. I don't know.

Hit it. There's a chance the rich eisen shows if there could be Huh? Rochester. Take of the week. All right, Christopher, you're first up.

What's your gosh?

Okay, so I'm looking at the week five schedule. Kind of big NFC matchup in Seattle this weekend. Tampa goes to visit the Seahawks. And I think when it's all said and done, we're going to look at this game. And we're going to say, you know, I think the Seahawks are contenders after Sunday.

Oh, man. You don't believe it just yet? You don't think so just yet? No, because there's some other NFC teams that I like a little bit better, but I think they're going to kind of take care of business. They're going to be thinking, you know, I think Seattle's in the mix.

Good job, bro.

Okay, good one. TJ, what's your higher register take of week number five? All right, listen, this goes out to Ravens fans. I know Lamar is out this week, right? And I know you probably feel down and you're not doing what's going to happen.

But I got to be honest with you, Ravens. Take it from me, TJ Jefferson, based upon what I saw Cooper Rush do during his time in Dallas. I think he's going to hold the four down for the Ravens this week. All right, TJ now. That's your best higher level yet in terms of Thought and execution.

Oh, exactly. That was outstanding. I held down the train. I didn't know how I retro. I didn't even just say that.

That's pretty good. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. I truly believe it. Cooper Rush season. Get familiar.

Okay, now here we go. Oh, Rich. How you going to follow up last week? Oh, boy. When I said that the Chiefs are going to turn the corner, and they did.

They turned the corner and hit the Ravens over the head to the point where it's Cooper Rush season. Yes, sir. All right, here we go, guys. The bandwagon's been full since July. It's true.

The number of people that came on this program all summer long, tell me the team that you're not. You're on. We're not talking about enough to the point where it's like you can't even choose this team anymore because everybody's talking about it.

So this is now the week. for the Denver Broncos to go ahead. And show everybody on the bandwagon welcome aboard. I'm glad you were there. Kazan.

I kind of think that the Denver Broncos are gonna get it done and take out the Eagles this week. Kind of think the Broncos are well equipped to do it. Wow. And A.J. Brown wants the football.

And who's better to keep A.J. Brown freaking out other than the... Reigning defensive player of the year. Patrick Sertan. You know, and then the rest of that Rushing attack and the passing attack.

Here comes that Broncos defense. I kind of think they're going to do it. Oh, that is. I hope you're right. That's the higher register take of the week.

That's nice. You can't just go out and say the Broncos are absolutely doing it. You got to pay the Eagles the respect of going higher register. Other than the champs. They are.

You can't just say, oh, the Broncos are going to do it. I don't know. I kind of see where I could kind of see it happening. That's high register. I can give a shout out to Smitch.

He called me this morning and he kind of, because I'm directable, and he kind of said, This is what you're doing wrong during higher register. And he goes, You should, and I was like, Yes, Smitch, that makes sense. Because, like I said, I'm directable. You're producible. You're produceable.

You're directable, right? Yes. You just went higher register in a green. I was just gonna say, what's the problem? See, you just went higher register on yourself, man.

Have some belief in yourself. Yeah, yeah, baby. That wasn't that bad. You ever parlay our higher registers eight to one? Just saying.

You got one? You got a quick one before you? I got a quick one. What is it? I really think that the Patriots got a chance against the Drake Neese season.

I am all over his team.

Okay. I like his team.

Well, until next week, you're going to flip-flop to another team. Yeah, that's true. That's how he does. Oh, I love the Giants. I sell all their tickets.

You got them full of crap. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show Podcast. You can watch and listen to The Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app, The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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