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Erika Kirk Smeared Again As Woke Reichers Lose Their Audience

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March 20, 2026 4:13 pm

A discussion about the threat of Islamism, particularly in universities, and its connection to foreign funding. The conversation also touches on quantum computing, AI, and the controversy surrounding Steve Bannon's appearance at CPAC, as well as the potential threat posed by Marco Rubio and the involvement of various individuals and organizations in the 2028 election.

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And I've got a bunch of other stuff, including Islamism, to get to, but I saw this yesterday, and it's shocking, and I saw it spread.

So TPUSA and Erica Kirk, they sent a cease and desist to this account called Project Constitution. That's the only time I'm going to say it, because of the stuff that they were saying about. Kirk and TPUSA. And they made this apparently like did this video. And I saw this, I saw it pop up because I can't even imagine dealing with this.

So, what they were saying is that. Erica Kirk went on a shopping spree the day after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And they made a big deal because apparently she went to Aloe Yoga or Alo Yoga and made some purchases in person in Utah.

So Sounds so like how could she grieve this way, right?

So insane.

Well, a woman named Elizabeth McCoy, who works with TPUSA, she's the Advents Administrative Director. She came out and said, this is insane. and let's set the record straight. She said, I posted this on Instagram yesterday, and I'm posting it here today. Uh she said so.

Everyone can see how ridiculous this situation is. She says, I was the one who made the aloe yoga purchase in person in Utah. When we got the call that Charlie had been shot, we rushed from the office and into the airplane. We arrived in Utah with nothing but the clothes we were wearing, she writes. We were in those clothes all day at the hospital.

and we slept in them that night. The next morning our friend Stacy handed me her card. and I went out and picked up some items and toiletries for various team members and for Erika. Alo Yoga was down the street. She said also, if you look at the video below, you will see that the photo of Erica's account that was taken at twelve fourteen PM on March 10th, a week before the video was released.

That's not a coincidence. It's a clear sign that this was a planned manufactured attack. She says to accuse Erica or anyone else of entertaining a shopping spree hours after her husband was brutally murdered. is cruel. and vicious.

So someone Had to have released. The customer information, right? for that to happen. I mean, that's kind of Is that true? She was on emergency travel, and they were accusing her of going on an online shopping spree.

At A Lo Yoga, where they sell sweatsuits, not morning clothes. And This video that that site that they sent a cease and desist to They I mean, they got millions of views on it and it was shared everywhere. And I'm I'm shocked at this, that this was that they were Promoting this. I mean, she, it was supposed to be, I call them down and back trips. Like, you know, it's supposed to be a quick one-day trip.

You're there and then you leave. And You know, yeah, you're probably not going to take a bunch of stuff with you.

So they got toiletries and then apparently they got each of them a change of clothes.

So she so they could, you know. They had to fly back home. They had to get back home. And they were in their exact same clothing. I mean, you think about it, you have nothing to wash your face with.

You have nothing to take your makeup off. You have nothing to brush your teeth with. Um You know, you don't even have any eye drops to help your red eyes from crying so much because someone just brutally murdered your husband on live television. I I just can't believe that people are so absolutely stupid. I can't imagine.

I still don't understand. I don't care if you like the organization or not. You are an ungodly demon if you're putting a widow through this. And I hope that the millstone that God hangs around your neck is the heaviest one that heaven can find. And I mean that with my full heart.

Because that is demonic. putting a widow through this. It actually absolutely breaks God's command to care for widows and orphans. Absolutely. Repent.

I just can't but can you I can't Imagine Having to deal with your young kids. Graving a spouse that's you know a husband that's killed in front of you. and not just any, you know, person, but a a leader of a youth movement. In front of the whole nation. And the video played out over and over and over again.

And then having all of this stuff crop up because people want control of this organization. They want control. There is a fight for that organization. I'm not going to exactly tell you who I've talked to or what I know because I think it's more important to protect the people that are doing the fighting within. But there is an absolute fight.

For the control of that organization because they want the influence. Because they've built this infrastructure. They're on all these college campuses, they're in high schools, all of this stuff. I mean, my kids were involved in it. uh in their respective uh educational institutions.

So that's a very powerful tool to have. And it is a very attractive thing for people who want to pump out propaganda and they want to control minds.

So that's what this is about, but she stands in the way. They can't do any of that with Erika Kirk there. She stands in the way. For all these people that are conspiracy theorists, It all starts to look an awful lot like... Charlie's existence was more inconvenient to the people who want to hijack that organization than not.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But these people need to make themselves, they need to be very, very careful that they don't make themselves look. Suspicious. with this conspiracy theory nonsense. And this treatment of a widow.

Because you're giving the rest of us some ideas as to who his existence was really problematic for. It's not Israel. Hmm.

So That was that's couldn't believe that they can you believe somebody actually has to do that somebody hac actually has to issue that statement And in the meantime, all of the other crazy stuff. as it relates to Islamism. And the spending on colleges and universities. I have this story. Let me see if I can find this.

With all my m millions of windows that are open here.

So with Iran I don't know if you this was a New York Post. I'm pulling this story up. The Children? I say children, but they're grown adults. the offspring, the kids of these regime leaders?

have been Here. In the United States. With major positions at very prestigious universities, including the University of Massachusetts, New York's Union College, George Washington University. And They are, like one of them is the daughter of the Shia cleric who is one of the big mullahs in the r in the regime, right? He's one of the skexies.

That's the only thing I can, they're like the skexis in the dark crystal. That's what it seems like.

So There's several of them. One is the daughter of one of the top military leaders of the Iranian Guard, Emory University, Union College, Chicago School of Professional Psychology. One of the Mullah's kids, he's an Iranian cabinet member. That's his son there. And their social media is very interesting, then Post notes.

Why And they they We're teaching them they go back frequently. Why are why are they allowed here? Million dollar question. Because you know the kind of stuff that they're PROMOTING You know what they're promoting in these universities. I'm I'm and a couple of them actually went back recently, and then when everything kicked off, they came back to the United States.

That's I would say maybe don't let them back in. Can you only imagine what their courses are like? Yeah. There's also, let me pull, let me grab this story because I think I put it in a different section. One of the things that we've always talked about too.

Is this spending from a lot of these Islamist countries into these colleges and universities? Here's that. It's Qatar is a major, that Qatar donates three times anything that Israel has ever given. And anything APAC has ever done. APAC is American Citizens with American Money.

I mean, I don't agree with a lot of their lefty spending, but, you know, it is what it is. They're a private entity and they can do with their with their own money what they want to. But Cutter has been spending millions and millions and millions of dollars at these universities. they're promoting Islamism. But here's what's interesting.

UAE. United Arab Emirates, because you know the Saudis and UAE hate Islamism. And yes, it's Shia and Sunni conflict, but they hate all of that and they view that as a threat. to their future economic stability. As things gravitate away, if they ever do, I don't think they ever will, from oil and gas.

Because that's a renewable energy resource too, by the way, for the people who don't understand that. But they're trying to westernize, they're doing gaming, they have film festivals now. United Arab Emirates cut all their funding for scholarships that allow students to attend certain United Kingdom universities because they oppose the Islamist radicalization on those campuses. UAE did that. I know.

I'm UA did that, 'cause they're pretty strict society too. Not as, you know, like Iran, but still. And a lot of Emiratis have gone to Britain, but now, and the government would give them scholarships to study abroad. They're not doing that now because they said that the UK universities are too Islamist. They're too radically Islamist.

How is it they can say that, but the UK can't even say that? If you said that, in Britain. You would get charged for a hate speech law. Under a hate speech law, you would be arrested. You can't do that.

They arrested a woman. I watched a video the other day. It's a little old. It's a year, almost a year old. But they arrested this woman because there was this, I don't know, a street imam.

Who was out lecturing and he was saying some pretty hateful stuff. And she approached him and said, I'm a Christian. I don't want to hear this anymore. I don't want to hear your hate. I don't want to hear it.

And immediately, Like, the video is not even five minutes long. She's arrested. bobbies in the area. She's detained. She's the one who's detained.

Qatar has been pumping tens of billions into universities because they s they back the Muslim Brotherhood. They're trying to weaken the United States. This is something that the Saudis and Emiratis have kind of brought up. to the administration before. They don't want, there's literally think about this.

There is a a Muslim country. That is worried about radical. Islam. Islamism in the UK to the point where they will not fund. their students to go there to study anymore.

That is how bad it is. I know. I know. And the State Department, they announced a couple of days ago they're partnering with the Department of Education to track and expose foreign funding into universities. Cutters spent billions just last year.

And you know what some of their projects that they spend their money on? Promotion of DEI.

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So this is in. Australia. And it is the Australian Prime Minister.

So I'm not going to. And he's sitting there, it's like, isn't this the thing that's like marking the end of... Yeah. And they're having their thing for that. And he's sitting there in the middle of it and everyone's just screaming Aloha Bar at him.

And This was just just the other day. And I'm I'm watching this video. That's pretty wild. what we were witnessing there. The Prime Minister of Australia, he's sitting there, and it's supposed to be this.

End of the uh Ramadan, like their ceremony. And this guy has been Uh Minister Albanese, he was at this mosque for the End of Ramadan prayer thing. to stand against Islamophobia. Very important, Kane, to stand against the Islamophobia, you know. And then He just looks terrified.

I've seen a couple of the and his security team. Look at his security team there. I'm still watching this. I'm watching. I've zoomed in on the security guys because he's got a security.

They're standing, they have no idea what to do. They're looking around. Everybody's very nervous. And they're screaming, oh, who bored him? And all of this stuff.

That's like saying, wow, again. I voted for the Leopards Eating Faces Party, and I can't believe the leopards ate my face. Look at a security if you're watching the simulcast of the radio program. on YouTube or on channel 347. The guy's standing up like the dude in the khakis with the little windbreaker and the other guy, that's the security.

And look how nervous. They keep looking back at him and then they're looking at The people there in the mosque that are screaming at him. And he's They're all screaming Allahu Akbar. And he just sits there. He has no idea what to do.

So he's like, I'll just, I guess, engage in panter. I don't know. But the security dudes. They have those kind of like Rictus. Pleasant looks on their face.

That's She could say he's basking in the warmth of cultural diversity. And he was walking around. He learned, I don't know why he thinks that he can. Ignore the level of radical hostility that has been growing in his country. from Islamists towards anyone who is not Islamist.

And they hate him, and he thinks that if I just kiss their backsides, enough. That that will do it. That's going to what that'll be what does it. But they were screaming at him. He's trying to appease them and that's That's It's not.

That's not going to work. Goodness. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash, with you. I've s I mean he just I'm saying it just looks bad. And that's because they've.

They've already given up. When you are relinquishing control of your borders. when you do not demand assimilation. You're giving up. And that's what how it used to be.

People would come to the United States and they'd want to assimilate. Everybody wanted to assimilate. Everybody wanted to speak English. They wanted to be American because being American meant. you're all united by the threat of liberty.

That's what it is. You're not putting anything above that. And now people want to put things above it and you see what's happening. Yeah, Anthony Albanese. And he is, he, and this is a guy who, by the way, he hates.

Everything is real. Yeah. Oct I I kind of think he believes October 7th didn't happen. He's a guy who thinks that every bad thing that's ever happened in Gaza has been directly because of Israel. And by the way, do you know what some of those shouts that they were yelling?

Somebody translated some of the stuff that they were screaming at him. They were calling him a quote putrid dog because they hate dogs. and a genocide supporter and a couple of other things. Huh. And so he left the mosque.

And after he left the mosque, a crowd of haters followed him. And they were screaming, shame on you, shame on you. Uh called him a pig, called him a genocide supporter. He was going there. to show solidarity with their community.

And they just told him, we don't want your solidarity because we're not your community. You're never, you are never going to be able. You can't appease something like that. That is a conquering mentality. He couldn't even get out of the mosque.

He, I mean, I'm watching video where people were shoving each other as his security was just trying to get him through. That's dangerous. That is dangerous. He was yelled at, screamed at, called a putrid dog. Called a pig.

This is him just trying to get out. and they're following him out. I'll look there. I've seen some of those reports and they're just simply not accurate. There were 30,000 people plus.

at Lakemba this morning overwhelmingly. The reception was incredibly positive. I walked through the crowd. Uh to the mosque. and not a single person, heckled.

There were a couple of hecklers inside. They were dealt with. Contrary to what's been suggested, no one was rushed out. We just sat there, it was dealt with. We saw the video!

We saw the video. We saw it. With our own eyeballs, we saw the video. Uh We all saw that, right? Did that look like he was very warmly received?

Yeah, it's actually almost exactly the opposite of how he described it. This is what's happening. This is what's coming.

So the woke Reich, they had their little shindig. Last night.

Now, by the way, I'm going to say this, and I'm not going to say this every time I talk about this because I think it's stupid. But I don't believe that these are all like brand new Catholics. All of my hardcore Catholic friends are livid at these people. Livid. I don't know a single one that isn't.

And they're livid because they say that these people are trying to hijack their faith and represent them and turn it into this hateful politicized thing.

So it was the Catholic for Catholics. It's like a slush fun group, basically. And they're all about the woke Reich. And basically, they're taking the left's DEI and putting a veneer of uh Republican on it and acting like it's okay to do because they're repo I don't know. But they had that lady who was the, what's her face, the Miss California who made seven sex tapes.

And it had all these nudie photos. And then, when the Miss America pageant found out, they're like, girl, you gotta go. That violates your whole character clause. And she got real mad. Uh so the Trump organization stripped her of her title.

But they didn't make her pay her boob job loan back, reportedly. She had a boob job, and apparently that was never paid back. I'm just I'm just I'm just telling you what's reported. I didn't say that. These people did.

So um they had like 75 people there. It was $5,000 a plate. You had Gal sharped in. You had uh uh the sex tape Timu Catholic. And then you had one of those daily wire guys that ended up, I guess, at the last minute, determining that that would be really bad for his career to show up.

So he just sent a video message. They had like 75 people.

So, can you believe somebody paid $5,000 a plate to hear a bunch of Timu Catholics? complain about how They hate Trump. Yeah. One of my friends was asking because apparently, and Gail Sharpton's speech. Uh They uh she told everybody she hasn't even gone through, I guess, the classes and hasn't even gotten confirmed yet.

And I realize that there are a lot of peop there are people who are Catholic who haven't been confirmed, but that's when you're trying to act like the spokesperson for over the Pope for Catholicism, seems like that's kind of an important detail. I don't know. I'm just asking questions. But there were like 10 there was 75 people there. And there's a photo of this guy who looks just like Marco Rubio sitting on the sofa with that just expression on his face.

That guy had to pay five thousand dollars to sit there. That is insane. That's and where's that money going? Nobody knows. Come on.

You know who it's. It's going to the, it's going to probably buy somebody's sports car, you know, for Jesus or something. I don't know. Uh yeah.

So they uh That was crazy. And they act like any criticism of it. is you're trying to drive Catholics out of the coalition. Which is no, people are pointing out that you're hypocrites. and that you're using the faith.

As a veneer or as a shield, and you hide behind it to do ungodly and sinful things to people and behave in an ungodly and sinful fashion. while acting as though you are completely beyond the touch of reproach. Because Catholic That's not how that works. But there is a concerted effort, and that's part of that war for the soul of the right. I'm going to actually have something coming up on that.

We had a piece yesterday that dove into some of the Kent stuff and some of the strategy for that. There's going to be more forthcoming on it, but I'm working on. A big deep dive into this fabricated fight that they're really trying to push on this. And the reason why they're trying to amp up this division in the Christian right is who has had their hand on the rudder of the ship. determining the moral trajectory of the Republican party.

It's been Christians. Actually, it's been really. I don't like to say Protestant because not everybody who is not a Catholic is a Protestant. That's the other thing that really ticks me off. I'm not a Protestant.

I'm a non-denominational Church of Christ. I mean, an ancient You know, and I don't, I'm not going to sit here and begrudge people for having a different doctrine. I tend to take Paul pretty literally. When he's writing about if it's not affecting your salvation, then move on right now. Move on, please.

So I dislike that, and I think that those. Those terms are important too. Remember, don't seek ground on language. But it's always been Um Christians Now, by trying to hijack it with your version of a faith. You can do anything and justify it because you're doing it for your faith.

If it's that version of it, right? That's what this is all about. That is exactly what this is all about. They've been going at Paula White. I'm not a fan of Paula White.

I made that pretty darn clear. But I am equally as much as I'm not a fan of her, I am not a fan. Of anybody that this cabal is trying to put in her place by targeting her.

So just leave her be. Because what's what they would pick is worse. And that's the truth of it. There's all this stuff at play. All this stuff at play.

But Notice that when they were, and someone told me this, someone said that. Uh they had a uh apparently a sibling who attended out of curiosity, but they paid uh the lower price so they didn't actually get a seat at the table. I guess there's a ticket for standing room only. I don't know. But there were seventy five people there.

And They didn't bring up Islamism. If you're talking about threats to Christianity. What do you um what do you think is a threat to Christianity? What is, if you're looking around the world, not just in the United States, but you're looking around. What do you see as the threat, not just to your faith, but your free practice of it and just freedom in general?

The growing The growing How do you however you want to put it? movement of Islamism. That is the threat, and you're seeing it take over the UK. Germany, good heavens, France. We just watched with the Australian Prime Minister.

They hate him. That's happening here in the United States. And there's a lot of money being spent in that effort. Not a single word was said about that at this event.

So who do they think the real threat is? They think that Christians who don't think like them are the real threat. That's the thing. Everyone who does not think the way they do, they call them a Christian Zionist. I don't even think these people can.

define what Zionism is. What is even Zionism? Is it, do you believe that a biblical prophecy, or do you believe that Israel has the right to that land? What does that even mean? They don't even know what it means.

Yeah, or simply Israel's right to exist. They don't know. They're all over the place about it. I don't believe in the biblical prophecy. I don't.

I absolutely don't. But I do believe in the right of conquer. I believe in the right of conquer for a people who have been there for thousands of years, and that's supported by every religious book and all of humans' antiquity.

So yeah, I believe that. I don't think they don't even know what it is. But they didn't mention Islamism at all.

So speaking of that. Two things. Do you know how many children of these Iranian mullahs are teaching at America's universities? And Did you know that another big Islamist country just almost doubled the spending on propaganda in American universities? We got a lot more on the way as we move.

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This has been a crazy couple of weeks for the right. And then we got CPAC coming up next week. And there's a lot of controversy over CPAC. Because one of the speakers is, I think, one of the guys who was dangerous, not just to the president's agenda, but also to his legacy. And I've known him for over 15 years in person, not just online.

Steve Bannon's going to be speaking there. I have no idea why. No idea why. You know, why would you have somebody like him, or even Matt Gates, a guy who couldn't even pass a confirmation hearing if he wanted to? But why would you have Steve Bannon speak?

Now, I was looking online and I saw some very interesting tweets that came up into my mentions, and one of them was from a friend that I've known for a long time. First time I met him was in Quincy, Illinois, and I told you he was dressed impeccably. He was the best person there in Quincy, Illinois. Roger Stone, who is the host of Stone Zone. You can also find him at Stone Cold Truth as well, New York Times best-selling author.

But he's better known as their dirty trickster. And the smoking jacket is just the most amazing thing ever. This is now the best dress guest we've ever had on the show. I was wondering, Roger, what you were going to show up in. And you exceeded my expectations, my friend.

Well, Dana, first of all, it's great to be back with you. You know, I usually agree with you.

Sometimes I disagree with you, but I've always respected you and the articulate way that you lay out your views.

So it's a great pleasure to be back with you.

Well, I appreciate you. I'm still dressed like this because I started at 6 a.m. doing interviews and I haven't had a chance to shower and dress.

So you get the early morning, Roger Stone, even though it's early afternoon. But that looks better than most people's evening. To be honest, it's very nice. I wanted to ask you about this because CPAC, are you going to be at CPAC next week? It's in down the street from me in Texas.

No, I will not be there. Look, this is... Very easy to lay out. And I've been very forthright about my beef with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon.

Testified before the House Intelligence Committee back during the Russian collusion hoax. He was specifically asked under oath. Did you ever discuss Wikileaks, Julian Assange, or the allegedly stolen emails? with Roger Stone. And he said, no, never.

on no occasion. You can imagine how surprised I was then when he showed up at my trial in New York City. As a witness for Robert Mueller, and he completely and totally contradicted that. When he asked the exact same question: Did you ever speak to Roger Stone about Julian Assange, WikiLeaks, or the allegedly stolen emails? He said, Yes, Stone brought it up in every phone conversation we had in 2016.

And in fact, I considered him the campaign's access point with Wikileaks, which would be news to me because I had no contacts with WikiLeaks other than those disclosed in my trial, which were online and which they basically blew me off.

So he is a uh is a perjurer there's no question jonathan turley The famous George Washington University law professor. Looked at both sworn testimonies and said, There's an inconsistency here in a case which was all about whether I had. or had not lied to Congress. to violate the False Statements Act. Your statement has to be willful, but it also has to be material.

In other words, I was convicted of lying about the Russian collusion that never existed. How's that even possible? In DC, anything's possible. But to go a step further. Steve Bannon pled guilty.

to stealing $15 million from the Build the Wall Foundation. and then strangely was not prosecuted for it, did, I should say, served no jail time. Find that strangely suspicious. He was also a co-conspirator in a $1 billion fraud scheme. Conducted by his Chinese patron, Miles Gwok uses several names about that one.

So there are character issues. And then we learn from the emails released by the Justice Department. that he's advising A convicted sex criminal, Jeffrey Epstein, on his public rehabilitation. At the same time, he's attacking President Trump as stupid. Advocating removing Trump under the 25th Amendment, suggesting that Mike Pompeo, the globalist, would be an apt replacement for Donald Trump, bragging about his role in placing John Bolton as the national security advisor, which, as you know, turned out to be an extraordinary mistake.

So, no, I don't think Steve Bannon, in view of his role, particularly as coaching Jeffrey Epstein on his public rehabilitation. is an appropriate speaker at CPAC.

So I'm boycotting and I'm urging others to do the same. Our friend Roger Stone joining us, if you are just tuning into the program, you know, and Roger, you and I have known each other for a long time. And in 2016, because I don't know if we've ever talked much about it. You know, when Sam Nunberg had reached out, asked if I wanted to get involved in the campaign. You know, the only reason my biggest hesitancy was because of Bannon's presence?

That's why I wouldn't because of Steve Bannon his character Yeah, no, I think that's entirely legitimate. There's an extraordinary series now. at uh artvoice uh dot com. Really in-depth investigative reporting into various financial scams by Steve Bain. And so I guess the most disturbing thing that I found in all of these emails released by DOJ.

Is the fact that Bannon clearly visited Epstein's Island? That's documented. That he clearly visited Epstein both at his New York. Home and in Paris. And he's pictured with people like Woody Allen in the photographs that they released.

I find his entire relationship with Epstein to be deeply disturbing. And when he says in the emails that he Steve Bannon is the centerpiece of the Magda movement, not Donald Trump. This man is delusional. Yeah. And that's par for the course with him.

He did this with Sarah Palin, gets on people's coattails and then pretends to make them. He did it with Sarah Palin, he did it with Andrew Breitbart, and he's done it with President Trump as well. I remember the story that came out when he brought in that Michael Wolfe to the White House and let him basically have unrestricted access to everything. And then he seemed to act like he was surprised that a lot of these accusations and false narratives made it into Wolfe's book, and it became a huge headache for the administration. I know you saw this, but did other people worry about his lack of trustworthiness?

Because it seemed that all of the biggest headaches for the administration concerning narratives in the press came from him.

Well, he was an inveterate leaker. I think that's pretty clear. Look, I I understand why he's upset. Called, I believe it was April 17th of 2017, for him to be fired by the White House. And on April 18th, he was fired.

Any Idea that he's somehow a Trump insider or a key Trump advisor. is categorically false. All he did in the 24 campaign was uh was criticized those who ran The greatest comeback campaign in American political history because we both know. that on paper The president should never have been able to win that extraordinary victory. It should have been theoretically impossible.

I think with a little divine intervention. and an enormous amount of hard work. And an extraordinarily well-engineered and well-organized campaign. The president was able to make that comeback and now I think has a golden opportunity to save the country. and to open a whole new golden age of peace.

prosperity, justice, and yes, law and order. But all Bannon did throughout that campaign was criticize and take pot shots at his campaign leadership. Again, this is a man who knows nothing about elective politics, has never elected anybody to anything. Those who say, oh, he was the chief strategist for the For the 2016 campaign, let me be clear. When Paul Manafort left, he left a written plan.

That written plan was followed to the letter. Steve Benny has never elected anybody to anything. Yeah, I agree with that. Talking with our friend Roger Stone about all of this and. The fact that he's speak he's like a featured speaker at CPAC, what does that tell you about the movement?

Or do you view that organization as not really being an integral part of the movement anymore? Because it seems a bit circusy if you're gonna have that guy be a keynote.

Well, first of all, I'm going to assume that money changed hands here. They certainly did not. invite Steve Bannon because of his overwhelming popularity in the movement. As you can go online and see today, he is an extraordinarily divisive figure. And I think many have figured out that he's a fraud.

But more importantly, he's an associate of Jeffrey Epstein's. He was actively working to rehabilitate Epstein's image between the time that Epstein was arrested on sex crimes and convicted in Florida and the time he was arrested and indicted by the Trump administration for child sex trafficking and a second charge of conspiring to engage in child sex trafficking. We're told that there are 10 hours of video that Bannon filmed with Epstein.

Okay, so where is the documentary? Point is there is no documentary. I believe those are practice sessions. You can see in the emails. Bannon coaching Jeffrey Epstein on how to erase his image as a sexual predator.

Uh so uh CPAC's judgment here It really eludes me. Therefore, I have to believe that money has changed hands. On the other hand, there are many in the conservative movement. who were not for Donald Trump, And now pretend like they were the original Trump supporters. And I'm a critic of kind of.

Conservative Inc. This permanent establishment in Washington that is very, very chameleon-like. I think CPAC. Uh well some history. Donald Trump went to CPAC in 2011 for the first time because I persuaded him to do so.

And I have to add, I introduced him on the stage. I remember that. I think you actually asked me to do that. I think that was you that did that. And it was an electric moment because people didn't quite know what to expect.

I mean, he was a New Yorker. He had, in the past, he had been a supporter of abortion rights. He changed his position after the birth of his youngest son. But people weren't sure he was a conservative. According to a Heritage Foundation study, he actually policy-wise turns out to be even more conservative than Ronald Reagan.

But people didn't know that then. It was an electric moment. As you know, there wasn't a single seat in the room. And he loved it. They loved it.

He loved it. And I believe he's been back to virtually every CPAC. Since then, CPAC did have a historical role in the rise of Ronald Reagan. Reagan's appearances on CPAC were crucial to his challenge to Gerald Ford in 1976, to his comeback in 1980. I'm afraid that they have devalued it now.

When Steve Bannon is one of your featured speakers, I suspect ticket sales are probably not going so well. Yeah. A last point on that is I would think that, especially, because you mentioned, you know, the really well-ran campaign in 24, and then the strategy after.

Now that Trump is, you know, approaching this midway point of his second term, he has made some of the boldest moves I think I've ever seen from a president. And he has done so, especially when it comes to foreign policy, in and out, very confident in his decision-making, which a lot of people have always hedged and dragged it out. And he hasn't done that. You would think that they would want to focus on. the strategy that can win, how to turn these wish list items for an agenda into actual winnable objectives.

I just think that why aren't we not focusing on that and bringing in people that would speak to that, the people that you know that have been instrumental in making that happen in his campaign and administration? That's a question for Matt Schlapp, you know, with the American Conservative Union. It just seems like a very strange choice. It seems to me that you ought to be focusing on. People like Secretary Scott Bessett of the Treasury Department, one of the President's very best appointees, Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.

Pete Hegset, the Secretary of War. Telsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence. Those are the people I think ought to be featured at CPAC rather than stinky Steve Boehner. Just like uh POTUS with the nicknames. Roger Stone, we'd love to have you back, my friend.

And I appreciate your time and our long friendship. Uh we've known each other for a very long time, and uh I appreciate your fight out there. People don't understand how difficult it is to do two live hours on radio. I do it every Sunday at 77 WABC in New York. My hat's off to you because I know how hard this is.

And you consistently put on a great show.

Well, thank you, Roger. It's good to see you, my friend. We'll talk again soon. Stay in touch, okay? God bless you.

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Apparently, they are. And there's a couple of other things to touch on.

So. This Pull this up. I saw this video fly by. and I was very interested. And was very interesting because If you hear some of the things that podcast to stand.

says They say that. Iran had they weren't trying to build a bomb. came there trying to build a plant for clean energy. Mm-hmm. That's why they enriched uranium 30 times beyond what they would need to actually build a plant for clean energy.

But that's okay. They were saying that they wait, what?

So the place where all the oil energy is. That's what they're claiming. Yeah. Okay.

Just make it chair. Oh, they weren't building they weren't trying to build a nuclear bomb.

Well, who are they speaking for? They're speaking for Iran. They're saying, oh, Iran's never.

Well, then, why did their former deputy speaker of parliament? Ali Mutahari. This is cut twenty-one one. Why did he say, oh, yeah, we absolutely were trying to build a bomb? Sure thing, that's what we're doing right now.

Absolutely. It's just, we're a little slow. Listen to this. This is what I have done in The one goal was to build a bomb. No point denying it.

The only goal was to make a bomb? Yes, 100%. The whole system, everyone who started it, he says. The real goal was to build a bomb.

Okay, but so wait, but Tucker Carlson says that's not true. And we all know that Tucker Carlson, the guy who got rejected from the CIA and whose brother spends all of his drunken time screaming at women on X. I mean, I would too, maybe, if your first wife left you and took everything you had because you're crazy drunk. Uh I'm just I'm just asking questions. But he says that never happened.

And he would probably know more than the actual Speaker of Parliament in Iran, right? Mm-hmm. The guy who the Nepo baby who was rejected by the CIA and basically got money to to build a media entity that he used, I guess, to to lobby for foreign interests. Of course he knows more than the actual Speaker of Parliament, the Deputy Speaker of Parliament in Iran, they're like, Yeah, we were going to build a bomb. And we are building a bomb.

That's what we're doing. Yes, 100%. Was he not on the same page as the rest of them? Because you're supposed to say no. We're not building a bomb.

You're not supposed to go, oh yeah, hell yeah, we are. Uh-huh, that's exactly 100% what we're doing. You're not supp Kid with the program! You're supposed to lie about it! Gosh!

Doesn't make any sense. The other thing I I found interesting Is this, and I can't believe I'm playing this audio, but I'm going to play it because it's Friday. Half of you are already off. This is the lady who was in Miss California who made seven sex tapes and had a bunch of nudie photos, apparently, and that's why she lost her crown. Um She is mad at Marco Rubio.

There's a reason.

Now, you're going to see an increase of targeting on Marco Rubio coming up. There's a reason for that. This was a really stupid move because they showed their cards. This is cut twenty-four. Aspect of Zionism.

So, as a Catholic, this is what I said on stage: I do not believe 1948 Israel is a biblical prophecy fulfillment. Most Christian Zionists in this country, like Ted Cruz and Pete Hegseth, and Marco Rubio, and she's called Zionists, thugs, supremacists. They want me as a Catholic. Oh my gosh, everything's always about her.

Okay, I'm already done. As a kid, she literally just became a Catholic not even a full month ago. But she's more Catholic than the Pope now. This is why you don't let new converts run your stuff. Uh sh Marco Rubio has been a Roman Catholic his entire life.

Not for like a hot five seconds.

So she's c accusing him of being anti Catholic. Because Of what? But why is she attacking Marco Rubio? It's not her attacking Marco Rubio. She just needs the cash.

Maybe she needs to pay off the boob job loan that she reportedly got and then never paid off to the I didn't know the pageants do that. Do pageants pay for boob jobs? I don't know, but if that's what was reported, man. And it was never paid back. Maybe she needs that money for that debt.

I don't know. Anyway, my point is this. There's a reason it's less about her and more about just what the act what the move is. You're gonna see an increase in targeting of Marco Rubio because Marco Rubio is a potential threat to other potential candidates in 2028.

Now he hasn't indicated a single thing. He has not indicated anything. He hasn't said he's going to run or not. You have no idea. He's too busy doing a million jobs and being memes.

He's just busy. He looks like in any second he's going to pull the car over and kick the hell out of everybody. He's that. He has that. He gives off that vibe of the dad who's right at the end of his rope on the road trip.

That's exactly it. But they're accusing they're going after him because he is a threat. You saw Calci, Polymarket, all of these betting firms, they have him leading the potentials for twenty eight. I saw another article that came out today. He looks like the heir apparent for Trump.

One of the reasons that people are trying to undermine Trump is to weaken him. If And this is where it gets interesting. Advance comes into this. We're going to be doing a deep dive on this next week. Vance comes into this.

I saw a thing where it said he didn't know if he was going to run for office yet. And I saw another piece that said, oh, he's in a tight spot. Because if if Trump is depending on how everything with Iran, it makes it it's already difficult for a vice president anyway, statistically and otherwise, because they're always viewed as an extension of the current administration. And after two terms, people like a change. It's just the nature of people.

I read another piece that said he's in a very tight spot with the stuff with Iran because he has always opposed, you know, that's one of the reasons he got into office, et cetera. He's very much aligned with in terms of non-interventionism with like the Joe Kents and things like that.

So it's a tough spot. And when he came out and gave his remarks about Joe Kent, he didn't. Necessarily say it was, you know, he noted that he had known him and that he was a friend. He was very careful, like Gabbard was very careful. It was very interesting.

But In order for him to really for him to do well. In a 28 matchup. It has to look as though he's the one. that knew better than Trump. And Trump has to get politically destroyed.

Now, you're starting to see some of the stuff come into play. Who was it that advocated for Vance to be VP harder than anybody else? Miss Chucker. And Peter Thiel, but Tucker. Who is Tucker Son Deputy Press Secretary for?

Oh, that's right, the V P. Hmm.

VP had difficulty even winning his Senate race. He wouldn't be vice president had he not been bailed out. And again, I know it's mentioned McConnell, but still. Couple hundred million. to save his campaign.

Because he was actually trailing the Democrat in Ohio at that time. And this was like weeks before, few weeks leading up to the home stretch for the election. These are all facts. And I remember actually specifically talking about that when it happened. My point is this.

There is a this is a lot of this is They're trying to accomplish a number of things. With one move. And you have Islamism and the communists that are watching this with great interest because they like these divisions. It weakens the right. We finally built a coalition and now it's they're threatening to destroy it.

So, this sound bite going off against Rubio, that was a shot across the bow because she's not. That wasn't unintentional. She's not smart enough to come up with a strategy on her own. She's doing the bidding of somebody else. And I say she's not smart enough because anybody that does not know that you can't make repeated sex tapes when you're running in a Miss America Beauty pageant, that that's going to disqualify you.

That's a self-owned. No. But they're targeting Rubio because Rubio poses a threat. To, and I don't know who they're backing, I'm just throwing it out there, but he poses a threat to whomever they want in 28. they're going to start really increasing their attacks on him.

They're trying to grow it slowly so that it seems organic. But I'm telling you right now it's not. It is all fabricated. Rubio, I don't even know if Rubio wants to run, honestly. I don't, he may have been like, I was done when I tried it.

What was it, 2016, 2020? He's probably like, I was done with it then. He has given no indication. That he is interested in. running again.

He's just doing his job. But that's what this was because he's being spoken of so much. Like the press was like, who is Trump's right-hand man in the situation? It was Marco Rubio. Who was with Trump?

It was Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is in all of these pictures. And then they have Vance on the, you know, visiting a plant or doing this and giving a random kind of stump speech. It is a difficult spot for Vance, depending on where he wants to go after this. It's a very difficult spot.

But they're going to try to make it difficult for Rubio, too. Make no mistake, this is all posturing to get in place for 28. That's part of what this is. It's this? getting a character a candidate that can be controlled.

weakening America on the international stage. And then also simultaneously what's happening is you're seeding the ground for Islamism. No one's talking about it here. No one's talking about the attempted. All the times they're trying to attempt Sharia, like in Tuck and Qatari-backed.

Propaganda that's promoting this stuff in our universities, and now we're seeing this stuff manifest in our towns, etc. It's a serious, serious thing. It's a real issue.

So that's kind of what we're seeing here, and that's kind of the lay of the land.

So I'm just putting that out there because I just, you know. And when I look at, like, here's another survey. This was an NBC poll, they said that there actually is not a MAGA split on the Iran war. NBC begrudgingly.

Now it's begrudgingly, but they noted that it is, there isn't a split. There is no split on this. Ha. But that's not what you're hearing, are you? You're hearing the exact Opposite.

Now one other last thing. Uh let's see.

Well, do we want to get into the well, we'll see if we have time to talk about the Roost Chris thing. the dress coat. We you and I were talking about that a little bit. Haven't they always had a dress code? Let me pull this up real quick.

I want to make sure I get all this off my plate for you for the weekend. Apparently they're I don't know why this is news now and there's backlash. It was a short video. Where they were, that came out. And the Risk Chris, they said they have a business casual dress code that requires proper attire and that people who don't comply are relegated to the bar.

You can't wear a hat in the restaurant. I don't like caps at the table. I do not like them. If it's a fascinator for a lady, Or if you're a lady, you know, if it's a fascinating, I don't like cats in church. at all.

I don't like it. I don't like cats at the table.

Now, if you're at a nice sit-down dinner, I don't like cats at the table. If you're at McDonald's, okay, I don't care. It's fast food. Yes, I am very old school on this stuff. But they said, you can't wear, Roose Chris, it's a steakhouse, you can't wear gymwear, pool attire, tank tops, clothing with offensive graphics or language.

or things that expose your undergarments. Yeah, because that's trashy. That's trashy. Why would you? No, I'm no, no, no, no.

And people are upset about it. Haven't they always had this though? I would never So, I don't go out in sweatpants. I don't wear sweatpants out and about to run errands. I'm just, I am so old school on this.

We gotta bring class back. And it doesn't matter if you have money or not. That's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. It's about personal integrity.

Right? You dress for how you want to be treated. And also, you just respect yourself. You don't wear dirty, nasty clothes, right? You just proper.

But I can't believe that. I always thought that this was known. Is it not? I would never walk into a steakhouse or a nice restaurant wearing gym attire. Or a ball cap.

What in the world? I mean, you know, my family might be from the Ozarks, but we know better than that. Come on now, everybody knows better than that. Why is there such a big deal of people like I can't believe Ruth Chris? And if I was dressed that way, you know, whether it's in gym shorts or whatever, a cap, I'd go to the bar.

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Wasn't he with uh uh he's in Misty with action, Delta Force, and then he was with uh was it Enter the Dragon? I think so. Yeah, yeah.

So, has passed away, age 86. And it was said that there was a medical emergency, and he was in Hawaii, and he had a medical emergency, and it was just sudden. It was described as sudden. Per his family in a statement, and they said to him, You were not just fans, you were his friends. And they thanked everybody for their love and support.

I just, wow. I mean, and he had such a great place, he actually had a place around here. One of his grandkids went to school with one of my kids. And it's kind of crazy when you realize, oh my god, Chuck Norris's grandkid. It's going, what in the world?

Which is pretty cool. Or sorry, The Way of the Dragon. He was with The Way of the Dragon. It was in the 70s. But he was, he loved John Wayne and he really.

Was an icon. I don't like it when these icons go. Because it's like they're the tent poles, right? And then it's just the expectations get lower and lower. But uh you know who uh interesting, Al Rudding, guy behind the godfather created Walker Texas Ranger.

So, if you haven't seen The Offer, which is a show about the making of The Godfather, about Al Ruddy, it is a must-watch for you. It is absolutely assigned viewing for you.

So, Chuck Norris, our prayers are with his family. It's an American icon. Also, We uh The people of the Twin Cities were awarded the JFK Profile and Courage Award because of their resistance to ICE. Just I wish the people that are listening and not watching the simulcast could see my face because of what I just pulled. The Minneapolis-St.

Paul people are being honored with the JFK Profile and Courage Award for their response to the federal immigration enforcement operation this winter. You know, they protected their lives. They risked their lives to protect, you know, murderers and rapists and convicted pedophiles. And a newly elected mayor passed away after collapsing mid-speech as the fellow mayor was performing CPR. This is insane in Idaho.

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Welcome back to the program. I saw this piece over at Daily Mail. They were trying to say Trump's approval rating sinks to lowest ever. Oh, they're trying to get Americans to th you're in the middle of a psyop. It is an absolute psyop.

Gosh, it's so obvious. I think I've been in media for watching media and hated them for too long. I the moment they sneeze, I know what they're doing. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so obvious. This is so obvious.

I get it. Oh, the gas prices, skyrocketing gas prices, Kane. They're so skyrocketing. I mean This is we just gotta Don't you agree? Don't you think that this do you think people see that this isn't manufactured psyop?

Uh I think people that pay attention to it a lot, like you and I do. See it that way. Um, I don't think though the general public is just living their lives. Sees it that way. They are highly influenced by the repetitive nature of how news is disseminated.

True. Yeah, this is just a nonsense. Article. I mean, there's been enough polling that's come out that shows this is to the contrary, but there, you know, there it is. It's you know, that's the way it is.

And then, uh, I mean, I don't know, we're going to be following this on. My substack chapter and verse, you're going to want to go subscribe to that. I had a piece that came out for subscribers yesterday. that detailed how the investigation into that joke hint was months in the making. And predated the resignation.

And obviously, I mean, it looks like he. Got caught leaking. Why he didn't do the what followed the Whistleblowers Protection Act and protect himself if he was a real whistleblower is beyond me. I mean, at least, I mean, I hate, I don't like Alexander Vimman, but he at least. Followed the Whistleblowers Protection Act because he didn't want retaliation.

I don't know. I mean, he was wrong and he leaked. And tried to lie about a phone call that POTUS had with Ukraine. Remember that whole thing? And here you had Biden who was actually threatening a Ukrainian government member and he talked about that in a speech.

They projected what Biden did onto Trump. It's insane.

So just, you know, all right, today's stupidity, I'm taking it way fast. It was going to be the first female ump and her call. She called a ball when it was clearly a strike right down the middle, right in the strike zone. You just can't, it's almost you can't get any better of a pitch. And she called it A ball.

It was right over the plate. Yeah, so I hope that's not any indication of what we're to expect in the future. Yeah, and a happy birthday, Kane. Kane's birthday was belated. It was yesterday.

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