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Today's episode is smooth, soulful, and straight out of the golden age of RB vibes. We got a man who sounds like he time traveled here from. The Marvin Gaye era, but made a pit stop in 225. to sprinkle some new flavor. He's worked with legends.
He got a voice that'd make you probably text your ex. And today we're gonna get into the music, the stories, his second, how about this, his second alter ego, the vibes behind it all.
So pour yourself a drink. But I know like he's doing, light up a cigar. And let's welcome the soulful crooner himself. Mr. October, London.
There, I knew it. I knew it. What's up, man? Hey, you got it going on better than I do. And you got the, okay, tell us what you're drinking because that's something else.
Which is All right, I gotta I drink on my bourbon, man. I got drinking my bourbon. What's the drink on my bourbon? You can't say it. It's Mr.
and Mrs. Bourbon presents October London's Bourbon.
So you can get it at october's bourbon.com right now. You know what I'm saying? You know what happened? I've been out of town. And the package you sent me didn't get here with my bourbon in.
I'm just saying, it didn't get here yet. What I'm trying to do is get you here. I'll fly you here, and then we can play golf. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to do.
Hey, listen, I was just back that way, not too. I was in Chicago, back in Toledo. Um last week. Should have checked in because I drove from Chicago back, so I had to pass South Bend. Oh, I know, man.
I'm tripping, man. I'm tripping. Oh, it's all right, man. I know, hey, we be busy, man. We be traveling all the time and things slip our mind, but we ain't gonna let that happen again, man.
You gotta come. I got ribs on the grill right now. See, if you get here, I'm a non-pork guy, but if you got some chicken, if you got turkey, you got beef, I'm good. I make some killer chicken. I make some killer steak.
So let's go. Living a good life, man. Hey, listen, first of all, I appreciate you taking the time. I know you're busy, I know you're traveling a lot. And I know this is going to be something special for The fans of the show and this people in general who want to get to know you a lot better.
A lot of people have heard different interviews, got a chance to see you perform. But for those that are just getting into the October London wave. Who is October London? Oh, well, first off, it's an honor and a blessing to be on this show, I have to say. You know what I'm saying?
Like, I do so many interviews and everything. I was super excited for this one.
So, I was like rushing to put the ribs on. Like, I got to get everything situated. You know, Dennis, my agent, is on his way here, you know, so you know, so you know, but uh, October London is, if I were to describe October London, he's. Singer, songwriter, producer, but I think the biggest part of October London is that. He's a multi-genre artist.
Obviously, we're going to get into that whole thing, but that's the biggest part: I'm a multi-genre artist, man. And I just love. dibbling and dabbling into different genres, man, whether it's Whether it's country, pop, reggaetone, R and B, jazz, blues, I got it all in the hard drive, so.
Well, now listen, let's back up just a little bit because I want to dig into that. But your family, in particular, your father played a guitar. I know he was on tour with Earth, Wind, and Fire. That's an influence along with other singers, but marry those two together. You got your father's.
influence and background and what he what what he did. But then it was You know, you studied the music. Father and who else kind of influenced your sound and kind of who you want to be as an artist? Yeah, no, for sure. You know, I.
It's, you know, when I talk about my dad being in music, you know, he was, he was, he was in music, but he stopped doing music at 29, you know, because he had to raise a family and all that. And he ended up being very successful, being a vice president for a major company. And, you know, he ended up being very successful. But before that company came along and hired him, and he progressed, he was opening up for these artists like Earth, Wind, and Fire, and just so many, so many artists. Obviously, he could tell a whole, you know, the whole plethora of people he's opened up for.
I always get it wrong.
So I don't want to say anything bad. I'll be like, yeah, my daddy used to open up for Morris Day and the Texas.
So I don't want to say that, but. You know, a lot of people be like, oh, so he played, he, so it was an easy end for him. No, like, he stopped at 29. I wasn't even around.
So it wasn't like, oh, he put me in front of all these artists and I got on. Like, I had to. I had to really struggle and hustle to be and to get where I'm at today.
So, you know, I had him as an influence. And what's crazy is I've never seen him even play to pick up the guitar. I've heard it on cassette and on his Real to Real, but I've never heard of it. Hold, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold up, hold up. You never seen pops, your father.
Actually Play for you, play for the nothing. Nope, he put that guitar down and never picked it back up. He's got some. I'm sure I can curse on here, right? I'm good.
I'm sure he's cold, but he's got some badass guitars, my man. He's got some badass guitars that's just sitting in cases. My guitar player, RJ, that you met at my show, he came and saw some of his guitars and was just drooling at the mouth for him, man.
So he's got some badass guitars, but I've never seen him play. I never got a chance to see it.
So that sucks. And I'll be trying to get him in the studio. He's like, no, no, no, I'm afraid to go back because I'm getting into it. Yeah.
So I've never seen him play. I've only heard him play on, and I'm like, man, you were ice cold.
So, you know, you never had the inkling to pick up the guitar. The reason why I say that is because I had Sean Stockman on here a couple of weeks ago. And he's really gotten to The guitar, and he plays it on some of his sets when boys and men together.
So that never was like an added attribute to what you wanted to do. And learn? No. No. No.
Man, I can play piano, and I can't even say play piano. I piece things together. I can't. I can't get it right with my hands. I can't, you know, so.
I produce all of my stuff, but then when I need some guitar, I'll say guitar, I'm off about it. You go get some money. Yeah, I have to call somebody, man, because I can't do it. You know, so no, I've never, I've never thought about, oh, can you bring the guitar down so I can just figure it out? I've never asked him to play because.
It was never in my mind to even play it. I figured it out on logic. And at that time, it was Fruity Loops when I was 15.
So, you know, certain programs, you know, certain things like that. I could do that, but nah, man, I never did it.
So I would. Uh so I had him Playing the music like Stevie Wonder, The Gat Band, and Frankie Beverly and Maze, and all that kind of stuff. That's what gave me. And then him just sitting down, talking to me, like, man, this is how these guys used to play. This is what these guys used to do, and all this.
So it kind of gave me that juice to keep going, but I've never seen him play, but I've always listened to the greats. And that's that's you know, that's that's why I am where I am, and that's how I am who I am is because I listened to those greats and I studied them. And he was always like, You have to study your craft. If this is what you want to do, like any job that you're doing, you have to study, you have to hone in on that craft, and you got to take it absolutely freaking serious. And that's exactly what I did.
Well, it's kind of like with sports, too, because in order to be great, you got to understand who the greats are. And studying exactly what made them great. And a lot of times, it's not just what they did on the court, it's their mentality. off the court. And what they did to prepare themselves to be great.
And that leads me into, obviously, if you listen to the album, especially the rebirth of Marvin, Marvin Gaye has had a big influence on your life, not just from the singing perspective. but also the kind of man he was politically always speaking about it. I know you're in that realm too. You got a couple of songs to talk about. You know, from that perspective, from a political side, we're going to touch on this a little bit about Marvin Gay and why not just the music was important to you.
But what he stood for and how he expressed that in his music, but also if there's somebody else. during that time period, a singer. Or maybe a couple singers that kind of influence the sound that you have now. Yeah, no, it's Marvin was a big influence. I'd have to put him in that list.
The biggest influences, maybe top five, have to be Marvin for his. His just sensuality in songs, you could hear that he was serious about, and he talked about it. I've watched interviews with him. Uh, you know, the way he talked and all that kind of stuff, man, he was just sensual all the time, man. He was just chill, he was always chewing some gum.
You know, um, you know, I'm very uh sexual with my, you know, with my songs, but you know, and I'm just like, man, this dude is stone cold with it, right?
So, you know, you have him, and then you have Ronald Isley and the Isley brothers, where he was, you know, he was, you know, he's Mr. La Da La. That's right, you know what I'm saying? He's got that vibe.
So I got to put Ronald Risey and Ozzy Brothers for that soulfulness. I got to put. Marvin for a sensuality. I gotta put Uh I gotta put Frankie Beverly for his He knew how to grasp an audience. He knew how to Take a A five-person barbecue and turned into a block party.
Exactly.
So you got to have that aspect. You know, you have your Teddy Pendergrasses with the open shirt showing the taco meat. You know what I'm saying? Like, you have all these artists, you know, that I grew up on until I got to the 90s. And I got to that level.
You know, they were all major parts in me trying to figure out who I am because I, you know, with the album Rebirth of Marvel that I came up with in 2022, in February, February 2022. You know, I didn't want to. I didn't want to be the new Marvin. I didn't want to, I didn't want people to be like, oh, well, he's trying to be the new Marvin. He wants to fill his shoes.
I did not want to do that. And, you know, me and the Marvin Gay estate kind of got into it for about a good month about that. And they were just kind of taken back by it. But it was all beef aside. You know what I'm saying?
Like, we're all good. It's family to me now. They sent me some of Marvin's items from his house. We're all good. But, you know, that was the major point.
Snoop really wanted to hone in on me doing that Marvin Gay. Uh, vibe, but it was me going into the studio. You can't lie, you can't lie to the track. The track is gonna tell you where you should go.
So if I feel like. A track that I'm playing. has The Ozzy brothers kind of Vibe and all that kind of stuff. I have to go with that. Like you don't, you don't put Lil Wayne Essence on a Marvin Gay replay.
You know what I'm saying? So you have to be true to the art. You have to be true to the track. You got to be true to the sound. Let me back up real quick because Nona Gay, I know Nona Gay, she did one of my foundation.
You know, this was back in the day. Rest in peace to my former publicist Patty Webster hooked it up. She was a part of. Of uh My fundraiser I used to have back in Toledo, but What was the biggest obstacle for the estate for you. That kind of was their pain point, but finally got over.
Um you know, when we were When Rebirth the Marvin got released And people got to really listening to it. When it got released, it wasn't getting any press or play on it. Uh not that I saw at the time. And then out of nowhere, you know, Troy Marshall, my radio guy, Troy Marshall, calls me and he's like, yo, man, it's picking up steam. And at that point, that's when I got nervous because I'm like.
Here we go. People are saying I sound like Marvin.
Some people are hating it. You know, I had my interview on the Breakfast Club where Charlamagne was like, ah, nope, it ain't going to work. That people were saying that. And then, you know, I think it was known to that, had an interview. One of the Marvin guests had an interview, and they were just like, It's not that he's stealing Marvin Gage samples because I wasn't trying to use any Marvin Gage samples at that time.
But you're just like, man, he kind of sounds like him, and it's freaking me out.
So it was more like a, Ugh, and then people are like Oh, oh, this is a new Marvin Gay. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm not trying to be that. I'm not trying to be that. It was just a vibe. It was just a vibe.
Please don't say that. Don't say that because I didn't want to get. I didn't want to start war with the Marvin Gas State.
So hold it. Let me stop you there real quick.
So Being a business person that you are in and Snoop is. Why at the beginning didn't you just approach the estate and say, God, this is the project I'm working on? What's your thoughts? I didn't have the contacts for him. Anyway, I didn't have the contact.
I don't know if Snoop had him. Man, Snoop had in touch with anybody. I couldn't get in touch with anybody. Yeah, no, I didn't have that kind of clout, man. I can't make the phone.
I couldn't make the phone calls I could make now, I couldn't make then. You know what I'm saying? But Snoop could. Snoop could, but I don't know if he was close with the family or not like that. I don't know if he couldn't call him because he didn't make that call.
I don't think. I think maybe one of the songs on Rebirth had Marvin Gaye a little bit, a little bit of a sample or a piece or something like that. But then at that point, your team does that.
So Marvin wasn't calling the sister or the cousin or, hey, Snoop, yo, we're about to do this thing. I don't want you, I want, you know, I don't want you to be mad. It wasn't like that.
So we just kind of. put it out there and was like. Please, God, don't let it go, you know, to the point where we're going to get sued or nothing like that. And we didn't, obviously, there was no. There was just a little backlash at the front end because they thought that.
Somebody made, somebody may have made a post or something. I saw a post that he was like, this is Marvin Gaye's long-lost son, and he should get money and all this stuff. And I'm like, I'm like, I knew this was going to happen. And, you know, Snoop was the one who called it the rebirth of Marvel. And I was not for that, but it worked out.
Thank God. And I was just like, man, this is going to be bad, man. It's going to be bad. And it just turned out to be so good because after a while, I got on the phone with the family and I told them how I felt about it. And I was like, look, I'm not trying to be your brother or your cousin or whoever I was speaking with.
I'm not, I just heard a song, it had a Marvin Gaye vibe, and I felt like the track was saying, hey. Just do that and let the people decide. And it just worked out. But I had no contact to call them and let them know ahead of time at all. Otherwise, I would have made that phone call and said, hey.
People are going to be talking. This is what I feel like. This is what should be going on. No disrespect. I just had a vibe going on, it's nothing personal, and you know, but I didn't.
So, but it worked out, it worked out. It worked out, okay?
So, but and that's and that's refreshing to hear too, I think, from a lot of people because if they don't know you haven't talked to you or seen some interviews, they'll say, Well, He came into it trying to sound like Marvin Gaye or have a similar sound to that. Even though you have different tracks on. you know that LP that Mo Holland drought is totally different, okay? But it sounds like it.
So.
Now that you've done it. Was and you were going through it. Was it a fear? That you get trapped into a certain category, or people paint the picture. Saying, okay, well, he's just.
And I know it's different on the album, but. People hear the Marvin gay. And they associate that kind of first and foremost with October London a little bit more. of being trapped in that box. Their fear of that?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no, I I feared the hell out of that. I do not want to be pigeonholed into something. It's like a person, it's like an actor always making movies about cars, racing.
So it's like seeing Ben Diesel in a serious film with Denzel and like him being in like, or anything of that nature. You're just like, oh, this is odd. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Because you haven't seen it because you haven't seen it. You haven't seen Ben Diesel in that role. Right. Yeah.
Ben Diesel is cars, Fast and Furious, action, hanging out a helicopter, you know, that type of thing.
So it's like, you know. It was weird.
So I didn't want to get pigeonholed, and I was so afraid of that. And um In the beginning, that first year. Year and a half, but no, I have to say, I have to be honest with you, man, two years.
So I dropped that in 2022, 23, 20, 20, 24.
So for two years from 2022 to 2024. I was getting frustrated, man, because I was doing my meet and greets. And people would come up, man. What's up, Lil Marvin? What's up, little Marvin?
No, no, no, no, no. What's going on, man? How you doing? Hey, look, you know, disrespect, but you know, I'm October London. I'm not Lil Marvin.
You know, I'm not his son. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not trying to be that. Oh, yeah, man, but you bad, you just like him, man. You sound sound just like, yeah, but it's more to me than that. I'm, I'm the first two years, man, I was just.
I ain't gonna say I was depressed, but I was just frustrated. Like, please stop calling me Lil Marvin. Please stop. Bye. I get it and I was just paying homage to the man.
That's why on the second album, October 9th album, I was like. I'm going to start it with that because the fan base knows me for that. And then I'm going to end the album totally different. I'm going to ballad this thing out. I'm going to go a little bit more RB, traditional RB.
I had to get out of that, you know. And now, with me releasing all these other things, now people are like, Oh, so there's more to him. He's not a, I don't want people to think I'm a cover artist.
Some people were like, oh, he flipped that Marvin Gaye record. He's just singing the same lyrics. And I'm like, no, I'm not. If you listen to it, it's totally different, totally different lyric. It just has a lot of his mannerisms in his voice, his inflections, ad-libs.
See, those things, you know, I'm a Marvin Gay. That's my favorite of all time.
So you already know.
So when people, you gotta understand, your biggest fear came true for a short period of time, unfortunately. which is people painted you in this box. as that, especially the older generation because As we know, nostalgia plays a huge role in how we view people. Because back then When they were listening to Marvin, they were going through something. You know, whether it was a good experience, bad experience, and they relate that time period to that music.
So when they hear something very eerily similar. The first thing they're going to associate with is that person, that time. And now you're doing it. They're going to put you in that box.
So, how do you, and you just kind of described it a little bit. Because you've been described as having more of a nostalgic sound. you know fresh But yet you got to combine RB with something new. When you're writing, how do you kind of keep the history of the music with RB, but yet you know this is 2025? RB is totally different in today's world.
Well, for me, I listen, you know, I have kind of an eclectic palate, so I listen to everything. Like I I had a one of my boys over uh last night. we you know we i made him some steak okay i made i made him i made him some red eyes and we just discussed we just discussed discuss business he's a big business dude um big business And he came from Toronto, Canada.
So we were just sitting there talking, but. I know his, his, I know what he likes to list to and and. You know, I was just playing songs that I was listening to CCR and the Eagles, and I just have an eclectic palate.
So I've always listened to different. different artists. I think what's wrong now. Or, I don't know if I could say what's wrong. I don't say wrong.
It's just a different time. It's a different time, different time, a different era. Different time, different era. I think artists listen to, they hone in on one thing and one thing only. It's like, Oh, I'm a trap records and rap records, so that's all I listen to.
I listen to all these trap records, I listen to. Rock, pop, EDM, everything.
So that helps me get out of that box because when I'm making the Rebirth of Marvin and I'm going to tour it and I'm going to do these songs, I'm getting on stage and I love, love, love performing for my fans. I love it so much. I love my fans. But after that first tour, I'm like.
Okay. I've done this a hundred times. I got to do something else. I got to go over here and pop up.
So then I went home and made an EDM record. And then now that, and then I go and sit with, I sit with the radio interviews, things like that. And they're playing the EDM records. They're not playing Rebirth to Marvin. They're playing the EDM.
So now I'm like, Thank you, thank you for playing this other stuff. And then I go here and then I go to Nashville and they're playing my country records. And I'm like, okay, I'm doing what I should be doing.
So that's what helps me switch gears because I feel like if I stay in this realm of RB all the time. You just get stagnant. And that's what happens to a lot of RB artists is they just sit in this area and they've talked about lovemaking so much that that's all they talk about. What about heartbreak?
Okay, well, I'm gonna do heartbreak and do lovemaking.
Well, what else? What else are you gonna talk about? You have to have these certain things. Music is just a gumbo of flavors and you have to dig into all of it.
Now, I've never made gumbo, so I can't go through the ingredients. We get technology, though. We get technology. You know, so I've never made gumbo. I'm scared to death of it because I know my first pot of gumbo is going to be trash.
So hot garbage.
So you have all these things and you got to take. The meat and the potatoes, and that's all I'm gonna give to you because that's all I know going. It's from shrimp. And you got to take all these things, and you have to show people that you can do all this stuff. You can't just make steak every freaking day.
You got to make rig, you got to make all these things, you got to make, you know, your sides and all that.
So that's what music to me is.
So that's how I stay relevant. And I surprise my fans, but I also tell them: hey, look, On Friday, you're going to get October London. On Saturday, you're going to get Sam Nash. On Sunday in Monaco, you're going to get. My DJ EDM name is DJ Dirty Chi.
So, you're going to get all three of these guys at the same time, and you're going to get the brand of October London, which is the bourbon. You're going to get a brand of the wine that I just got done doing a deal with. I got a wine coming and it'll be coming to your house. I'm going to get your address. You did this.
And I'm going to get that sense.
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Okay, besides me and Jared Samuel, you know what I mean? Jared Samuel. I'm the government. The government name. With October London.
And now you just touched on it with Sam Nash, because Sam. Samuel is your middle name and Nash. Because of Nashville, right? I love Nashville, right? But here's the thing, and I love it because you're broadening out your perspective, you broaden out your horizon, and and also your talent.
allows you to be able to do that. But that is a challenging genre of music. We see that with Beyonce, okay? And Beyonce just be and Beyonce is Beyonce. What's the challenges for you?
And I know you love the music. You talked about different. I'm the same way. I listened. I was in Rotterdam year before last at the North Sea Jazz Festival.
Couldn't wait to see the closeout performance by Sting.
So I appreciate it. But for country. This is such a niche like The country You know, people who love their music are staunch, they don't want it to be touched.
So, how mentally have you entered that space to prepare for what comes with that? You already talked about the Marvin stuff. what came with that nashville and countries is totally different I'm super comfortable making country music in my house and in the studio. But man. I'm not going to lie.
As Sam Nash, I'm going out on tour starting, I think, the 6th or the 8th, I don't know, the 8th, 8th of October. And I'm scared to death. I'm scared to death, man, to do it, to be honest. You know what I'm saying? We got the duelies and damsels tour starting the 8th in Chicago, St.
Louis the 9th, Nashville, October 14th, and Atlanta the 24th. And we're starting in c you know, at the city winers. I'm scared to death, to be honest, man. With R ⁇ B, I was like, yeah, whatever. But with this, country music man.
Country music is like burglary. It's a cult, man. They are. Super serious about that. They are super serious about their bourbon in Kentucky.
And they're serious about Country music when it comes down to the writing style and where you're going, and are you a fraud, and all that kind of stuff. You know. R and B is like a, if you're an RB, I think R and B is We should make it a little harder to get into, but RB is like free submission in the club. You're right. You know what I'm saying?
You know, and. Country, you put out a country record, and I won't mention the artists that have gotten beat up in country, but. If you don't come correct. They'll keep they'll just they'll just be like nope No play on the radio, no play in the bars, no play in nothing.
So.
For me to gear up for it. I've just tried to be still myself. I just like making the music. I'm not going out there. Like, howdy, cowboy, and all this.
And I got a farm and I ride horses. No, not saying that. You're with Sam Nash, you're getting... I'm not with the Cavender. I haven't bought any Cavender boots, but I'm going on Louis Vuitton and getting these Cowboy boots from Louis Vuitton.
So I'm still. You know, the bougie cowboy type of vibe. You know, I'm still coming in clean. I'm gonna have the cowboy hat, but it's a Louis Vuitton cowboy hat, so I'm coming in. Like the Louis actually, now that I might be the Louis Vuitton cowboy.
I might have to go with that right there. But you understand what kind of conflict that can create when you're trying in that because. Even though, and you said this, and I think a lot of people understand this, that Basically, country is an offshoot of gospel, the blues, that kind of, because it tells a lot of stories, heartbreak, you know, a lot of things like that have happened in people's lives, and it's the way you present that. You know, as the average man-woman. That you know, survived whatever it was that happened in their life, and now you come in and want to jazz.
Not that other country artists didn't do it, but they were country artists.
So people can still relate to that. You're talking about dropping in from 30,000 feet. And having the Louis on and the Taylor suit and doing this with the cowboy hat, do you think that people will miss, and especially the country, the people are. big country will misinterpret that and then not really listen to your music because of that. And not hear what you're singing.
Yeah, I think they'll take the music serious. I think at first, This first little go-around for this first duelies and damsels tour, I think that they're gonna definitely look at me with the over the over the thing, like, uh, what you doing? Hold on, let me see what you got here. You know, that type of thing. I think they're gonna look at me and say, Who is Sam Natch?
And then somebody's going to say, oh, he's really October London. He's really a Grammy Award-winning artist already. In country? No, in RB. What the hell is he doing?
What the hell is he doing here?
Well, he wanted to express himself. Yeah, we'll see about that. And I think that's going to be the first hurdle. If I can get past that first hurdle, I think I'll be okay, but I think the music will speak for itself. I think they'll hear it.
And they'll say.
Okay. All right, all right. The music is speaking for itself. I like the music, but is he true to this artistry? Is he true to.
The brand of country. Is he true to the roots? Hey, look, I live in Indiana, and although they've got cornfields some odd miles away and all that, it's in country, country.
Well, I'm not down south, so hopefully, now if I was a Guy comes from New York, they could really kind of beat me up about it. But I think being in Indiana, they'll be like, all right, we'll take a listen, but we're definitely going to be on you. Oh, trust me. Watch, I'm gonna get backlash. Me and you are gonna have a call, but in the coming weeks, I'm gonna say, Yeah, remember, remember when we did the podcast.
They gave me a little pushback, but... That's where my job comes in to show them: hey, look, I'm not here to disrespect. Your just the craft and everything country. I'm just here to have fun. Show my appreciation.
Pay homage to country. And I I'm not saying, oh, I deserve a country Grammy and all that. I just want to have fun. That's all I want to do. I want to go back to when making music is just fun.
You know, and that's honestly why I like being on death row, because I can still have fun. You know, so hopefully they take me, they bring me into their homes and they love the country music so far. It's been it's been It's been pretty good. And we had a low test run. with Jamie Fox and Snoop put out A movie called Day Shift on Netflix.
And that was obviously the first number one movie I could have under my belt because I did the music on it. And I did a song called I Don't Give a Damn. And I went. As October London, because I didn't have Sam Nash built yet.
So I just went as Sam London. I mean, I'm sorry, October London. And dude, the feedback was crazy. They loved it, but they couldn't put a face on it. They were like, we don't know who this is.
We don't know if he's white. Black, whatever. We just know we love the song and it did views. They loved it. They loved it.
It was one of them. The most popular songs on Day Shift was that song. It's when Snoop is driving in on the Dodge Durango, which I'm a big fan of Dodge Ram. He rode in on Dodge, on in the Dodge, Dodge, not Durango, Dodge Ram. And he met up with Jamie Fox and they were playing.
I may be a fool with my money, but don't call me broke. Bro, doom, doom, doom, doom. They loved it, bro. And they didn't even know what my face looked like to nothing. And I was like, Okay, so the music is going to speak for himself.
The music is going to speak for itself.
So I can give you good music. I just don't want you to judge me on my appearance.
So I'm not showing up in the suit. I'm showing up in the Levi with the Levi James with the Louis boots. And that's it. Like, you know, Louis hat, cowboy hat, Louis boots, but everything else is denim, Levi. I'm not going all suited out.
That's October London's look. You know what I'm saying? DJ Dodi Chai is more urban look, you know, all that kind of stuff. But, you know, the dolce shoe, all that kind of stuff, the whole urban look. But Sam Nash, I hope they just take it.
I just hope they take me serious because I'm not here to make fun of the country. I'm not here to. Outshine someone. I'm just here because I love the country, I respect it, and I just want to have fun in it. I may be, I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
No, I got you. You know, I appreciate because I appreciate what you're saying, what you're doing, because you're stepping out there and you're betting on yourself. It's a fear there of kind of the backlash, but not fear that they will not like what you put out. which is totally two different things in what you're saying. And betting on yourself is important.
You know, you worked with Snoop now, was it 2016, 2017 that he signed you? And we know the background about that, but working with Snoop, is there something now that you worked with him now in eight years? That we don't know about now he 'cause he's out there, but is there something we don't know about Snoop? Male Speaker 1 Well, something you don't know about Snoop, he can't hold his liquor. Hey, now that, yeah, okay, okay.
I mean, Snoop Way, like, 105. Too bad. Look, I made a drink for Snoop at Dr. Dre's house, man. We're working on a missionary album at Dr.
Dre's, man. Snoop was like, you know what? I told him in a good mood. Why don't you go ahead and make me one of them drinks you be making? I said, you sure?
He was like, yeah, I was like, you want me to lighten it up, though? You know what I'm saying? He's like, no, make it how you make it.
Okay. I made them, you know, what did I make them? Don't tell me. Come on, don't tell me it was something light, bro. It had to be some bourbon or something.
No, tequila? No, no, no, no. You know what? It might have been. It might have been like, because you know, Dre does gin and juice.
It might have been, and obviously Snoop does gin and juice too, but I think I was like, you know, I'm drinking tequila right now. I'm gonna make you a tequila and apple juice or tequila and orange juice or something. And I made it. I did a two finger pour. Two fingers.
You had a lot of ice or would you just add a couple cubes just to lighten it up? Would you? Couple cubes, couple cubes. Swirled it around, make it nice and chilled. It was warm outside.
We're sitting back in Dre's beautiful house, and we're taking a break. And he's got to drink and he's like, ooh, this is good. And then he kept drinking a little bit, and he kept drinking a little bit, and he kept drinking a little bit more. And it was gone. And next thing you know, he was laughing and joking and talking.
And he left. And then he left. He left. They just left. I was like, where'd he go?
Man, I'm fucked up. All that smoking, all that smoking and the drink is the alcohol, right? Dog, it was the algorithm that got him. I was like, damn, I was like, that's crazy. But, but.
He got his get back, man. I was at his studio. I was at the compound in LA and I was like, you know what? He just went in the back room to go probably pass out or whatever. And I was like, you know what?
I see this. Let me get this joint out the ashtray. Had a little in me because he stopped at it. Usually people stop real short. He had a little, I was like, I'm going to just, I'm going to just hit it real quick.
Took a hit. Took another hit. Then it's okay to taste good. Yeah, like this tastes good. This tastes good.
And he was waiting on me this time to do a record. Man, I passed out on the couch at the count. Bro, I was done.
So I was like, okay, that was my personal get back.
So, you know, who set you up? He put it out there on purpose. That's what he did. Put it out for no purpose. That's what he was doing.
Like, welcome to death row. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man. It is. It's interesting, man, just to hear these kind of stories and stuff.
kind of see where you're going. And one of the things I asked Sean's talking about too, because you can buy an RB. Kind of old school, new school. In five years, where do you see RB? Madam, madam.
Because it's different. You what? It ain't gonna be good, man. Really? I'm just being honest.
Okay. We had RB artists, and man, I know I'm gonna get backlash for saying this, but I'm gonna say it anyway because this is how I feel. And I feel like I can, I can, I do so many interviews a day, man. And I feel like, you know, being on this, I'm having fun talking to you, you know, you know, you big bro. I can be real, man.
I've R and V artists. Have a extreme crabs in a barrel mentality. We are so Honed in on outdoing each other that we don't have. I think it was RL. Genuine.
Tyrese Was it tank? It wasn't tank. It was K. I'm talking about the one joint that they did, Best Man That I Can Be. They were singing together and hanging on each other's shoulder and just, oh, they were just, oh my God.
They were just singing together as a unit and having fun and they were just like pouring a heart out. about brotherhood and being together in R and B. We ain't got that no more. We ain't got that. We don't have that anymore.
I can call Tyrese. Me and Tyrese have done numerous records. We just finished one. He's probably about to drop it tonight at midnight, knowing him.
So, is this what was the one you dropped? It was on his CD. It was a solution. It wasn't volume. Yeah, what was it?
Bedroom bully. Yeah, yeah, bedroom bully. That's it. Yeah.
Ooh, fire. Fire. Starting with a kiss slicking on your lips. That you're dealing with a bad thing. Yeah.
Uh-huh. Yeah, crazy. But is that an industry because Music all around is changing. But every era has a different, I don't care if it's sports, if it's music, if it's acting, if it's movies. It's not going to stay the same.
Every era is going to change and has to change. But what you're saying is that from an RB perspective, It's really diminished and killed the genre of R and B because of those changes. Absolutely. Everybody's just. Yeah.
I'm off love. I'm going, like I said, I'm not going to say names, but I've been in situations where I've performed with. in the vicinity of R B artists and they have completely completely treated me like Shit. And I'm like. Uh oh.
I can't wait to get to. this this venue to meet these these these a couple artists. And I'm like, man, I'm such a fan. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man, I grew up listening to your.
Oh, man, yo, yo, my boy is a big fan. I'm a big fan. We got to do something together. And you get there and. And they they completely just Treat you like You know, you broke an A-house's soul, son.
And I've had that so many times over, man. to where I just get frustrated and I just get down like. Damn, man, I was... I've been listening to you for 15 years, 20 years. And then you're gonna do me like this?
You gonna call security? You gonna cut my mic? You gonna. have somebody come out and pull the cords on me man you i'm competitive One of my number one favorite artist is R. Kelly, hands down, no matter what.
That's my favorite artist. And I learned from the best as far as writing style from him. Man, I'm not letting up. And Charlie Wilson called me and told me: he said, Don't you let nobody outdo you? And I said, I said, All right, Charlie.
He said, Oh, no, you're not hearing me. Don't you let nobody outdo you get on that stage, no matter if it's me, whoever it is, you go out on that stage and you go give 120%. You go out there and put up 50 points real quick. And I'm like, okay, Charlie, all right, Uncle Charlie. I got you, Uncle Charlie.
And now I get it. I get it. But in a respectful way, though. In a respectful way. Right.
Compete and go out there and do your thing in a respectful way and not take it away from what this other artist or other artist is doing, is what he's saying, right? Yeah, yeah, in a respectful way. But if they get out of pocket, then you go out there and kill them vocally out of pocket, then you go take care of it. You go. You you they started but you ended.
It's like bringing a knife to a gunfight. And I just have that competitive, Snoop has to call me sometimes and be like, man you got you got a you going at people's throats right now like on songs like You know, to the point where RB artists are sending me records and they're not sending me their references on there. They're not sending me with their verses on it. They want to hear what I'm going to put in. Then they'll come back with theirs.
Ha ha ha. Mm. I'm like, well. Hey. Hey, if that's what y'all want to do, cool.
We can do that. We can do that all day. I'm just competitive, man. I'm super competitive. you know and I just get out there and I do what I can.
I'm humble upon mine. I don't get out there and act like I'm the best singer in the world. Because Tank is one of my favorite artists, and that dude can sing his ass off. And I studied him and his runs. I study his runs and everything, and I'm still studying Tank's runs.
But when it comes to writing, R. Kelly was the one that I was just like. Oh, I can't believe he even thought about that. Why did I think of that?
So I'm competitive by nature, man, but. I respect all these RB artists, and I just wish that I got the respect back. Do I get it from certain artists? Absolutely. From majority of artists, whether song from boys at men, he just texts me like, yo, let's do something.
You know, Tyler. Sean and Libra, like me, you, like, me, you, Snoop. Sean is at Libra.
So he gets it. Who else? Who else hit you up? Ooh. Oh, man, I got so many.
I got rappers hit me up. I just did a record for Game 4 Documentary 3. That's going to be crazy. Um So many artists, man. Like I said, obviously, I've worked with Dre, I've worked with so many artists.
But the ones that some of, some of, some of them, and that's a handful, a handful of only. Treating me dirty or whatnot. And that's cool. It's fine. But enough to let you know how this industry is, though, too.
Get it on. Yeah, especially when they I'm on Death Row Records. I'm the flagship for Death Row Records, which is a rap label.
So, for me to do that is crazy automatically. But I'm on death row where I have. I can move a certain way. I can say, man, snoop, I'm in an EDM move. He'd be like, go ahead and make it, nephew, let's go.
Let's go. Let's put it out. Get him. Get him. But these these artists on these labels I'm not going to name the labels, but all these big major labels, they're not letting our artists do none of this, man.
They're not letting them go. They're not letting him go out there and go put on. All these points on the board. Why? Because, well, you got to make sure this person, this, this, but, oh, you know what?
You can't put this album out right now because this, this artist right now is, is, is a little bit bigger.
So, you know, you got to give them their shine. You know, we know you'll get them, but you know, you'll probably do better, but we got to give them their shine because the contract states Snoop is totally different. He's like, look, man, how you feel today? You know, I feel like doing a Mo Better Blues vibe type of album. Can't wait to hear it.
I'll talk to you when you're done. He ain't over the shoulder like, yeah, I don't like that. And you should do this. And we got to call this person. Snoop knows I write, produce.
Mix Master engineer everything. Everything.
So he's like. Just call me when it's done. Send it to me. Send it to me. We transfer.
Let's get it. And then it'd be like, when you want to put it out, well, you know, I feel like this mobeta blues would be probably good during the winter, man. You know, it's cuffing season. I feel like people are going to be in the house. They need to vibe.
They're going to be smoking their cigar. They're going to be drinking their October's bourbon. You know, I think they should get this. All right, cool, cool, cool. We'll put it out in December.
But remember, just at least put out a Christmas album too. All right, Snoop, for sure. We'll shake up on it. Done deal. Super's an easy person to get along with.
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Sending stuff and want to work with you is there and it doesn't matter what genre. Is there an artist or two that you want to particularly work with? Absolutely. There are Let me just get it right. One, two.
There's literally only three. There's only three artists that I want to work with right now. That I'm just like, man, if I work with these artists, I will just fulfill the bucket list. Obviously, one I can't fulfill. I'm not going to add the fourth one because I can't, because he's locked up.
You know what I'm talking about.
So I can't do that. That was number one, hands down. Number two. Oh no, I'm sorry, that was five. The fifth one, I can't because he's incarcerated.
Maxwell, me and Maxwell haven't done a song together, but Maxwell's a big fan of mine. I talk to Maxwell at least two or three times a week. Maxwell, okay, got it. Dude, that man, beautiful soul, man, always checks up on me. You need anything?
I'm like, I'm good, man. You need anything? All good. Maxwell got this song with him. I gotta do a song with John Mayer.
One of my favorite, favorite artists. I gotta do it in that shade, man. Oh, come on, man. Stop playing, man. Stop playing.
Don't do that to me. Oh yeah. I had a chance here at last concert tour in 2010. Uh I goosebumps, right? But we just Close, close.
We just me and Scooby Stevens of the Prime with me and So kind of, it's kind of there. Here's the cloud with Shade's sample on it. And then lastly, The man to myth, the legend himself, D'Angelo, man. Brown sugar? Come on, man.
Come on, you know what? And I love that too. You know who I love to see you do a duet with? On this level is Alex Isley. Woo-hoo-hoo.
I she was supposed to be on the tour. She was overseas. Was she? Me and her, I called her. My agent, Dennis Ashley, called Alex Isaac's team and was like, Man, October loves Alex, man.
And he would love for her to be on tour. And she was like, She was like, I'm over the scene. Like, she was like, I've been wanting to do something, like, do a tour. Oh, she was doing, I love Alex. She has a beautiful soul.
Beautiful. And man, can she sing her ass off? Yeah, that's one of my favorite ones just because. You know, she's promotionally probably not being pitched or probably out there like that because of. The style of what she sings, but when you listen to her music, you feel a lot better.
You feel like you're in a certain space. Peace of mind, it gets you thinking, it gets you laid, especially if you have a nice cigar, got a little something on the side, a little drink, and you're chilling. It's just something about her voice. Man, Alex Heisley's a beast, man. I love Alex Heisley.
You know, she's on the list as well, like this far female. Female collaboration, Alex Isley, Shade is number one on the list, obviously. Um Those two men are just, oh, her, her is amazing. Um Yeah, man, it's a few artists that I've been wanting to work with. There's a couple others I can't think off the rip right now because I'm brain fog, but.
Man, Alexis is a beast, man. I hope. You know, we've been having conversations little by little about having the next October London. Tour in 2026. And Alex Isley is definitely on the top of the list of being like, yo, please come out with me.
I just love to tour with you, pick your blind. Maybe we might even do a couple records together while we're on the road, maybe an EP. You know, so artists like that, man, I just love, I'm inspired by. And I just look forward to it. But this next October London tour, which I'm going to talk to you about privately, just to let you know where my head is at.
Dude, if you see where my head is at, man, it's going to be. It's going to be crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy.
So, you know. Broad. A couple more things.
Well, I'd love to see. I didn't go this year. I went to Afro Nation. uh in Portugal for it was Afro Beats But I'd love to see you performing. At Rotterdam, North Sea Jazz Festival.
I just think In Europe, when you go to these events, and that's one of the oldest, it started off as a jazz festival, but you got all these different genres: big groups, small acts, whatever it is. Um I saw some more. What was it? Samara. Joy.
Young jazz artist, probably out of Bronx. She's out of Bronx. 23, 24 being compared to a young Billie Holiday. But I see artists like that.
So you got big names like. You know, it was Sting did his, and Seal did his, and I saw Sam Jones do, you know, that, but then you have smaller acts too. And I seen you a smaller act, but it just goes up and down. Tim's was there, you know.
So it's not just jazz, it's all these genres. I think. that they really buy into that appreciation of your sound. And you can do different Parts of who you are, which would be great. I love to see that.
And, um, When you're making your music, and I just got a couple more things before we get out of here, you know, we got to hit the cigar thing. But when you're making your music, is there a message you want your fans to take out of it? Mm-hmm. I just want them to take out of it that What I was speaking on earlier, a lot of artists are doing songs because label heads are over their shoulders saying, Sing this, say this, do this. All that.
Uh I'm coming straight from the harvest is just. how I feel.
So all of my music that you're getting is real. It's no gimmicks to it. And you came to one of my shows where I was like, 'Hey, ain't no auto-tune on my shit,' right? You know, like, you know. And that's kind of a jab, you know.
I mean, like I said, you know, you put it in there. You put it out there. I got you. Yeah, yeah, I put it out there. I got you.
So I'm just, you know, I'm just talking shit. I like to talk shit on stage, but I just like, I like to be myself. And that's the thing on stage. Off stage weather. You know, you're at my crib.
You're never going to get. Fake Jared, and I did like. Screw October, Sam Nash, Dida Jericho, Jared, as just a human being, as a person. You're never going to get. You're never going to get fake out of me at all.
Because I don't want nobody to be fake to me. You know, if I'm doing something out of pocket, whether it's online or something. I expect my big brothers like you or Tyree's to be like. Yeah, you know, you seem to, you know, like looking out because that's what we're supposed to do. We're supposed to look out for each other being in the entertainment industry, whether it's basketball, football, music.
Whatever it is, that's kind of our job to keep each other in check in a respective way to be like, hey, look. Man, bro, don't let people get to you like that. Don't let this get to you.
So, I always like to show my fans, like, I'm just a real person. and i just i'm just i'm just here i'm just here to have a good time and to hopefully You know, get you guys that have a good time, you know. And I was at the grocery store the other day, and this dude had his kid, and he was like, Man, you know who that is? And he was like, I think so. And he was like, Oh, that's October London.
He was like, What? What are you doing in here? I'm like, No man, love a man. I need groceries too. Hey, man, that is.
But you deserve it. I mean, and with. Success comes challenges. I mean, you're going to have pushback, whether it's through. the labels itself for the industry or individuals.
But that's the beautiful part about it because A lot of people will quit. A lot of people won't continue to push forward because of the negativity or being stereotyped or being put in the box. They can't handle the pressure of being scrutinized. And that's what comes with it. The higher you grow, The more famous you get, The more scrutiny is gonna come.
But it's scrutiny for a reason because if you're not successful, then people ain't gonna really talk about you anyway.
So that means you're doing something right.
So that comes with the territory. And I'm sure you understand that. I know you know that. I know you're not pulling back. Plus, you're a Libra.
Now. All that we talked about. Fire. Most important question here. Chillin' at home.
You grabbing a cigar first or you grabbing a bourbon? Sadamas.
Okay. I was about to say, because you're going to have some problems. If you say, And there's something different about. People that don't smoke cigars don't understand. what it is that we do that really just sit back and then enjoy.
A nice cigar. Uh whether you're in great company and Or if you're just chilling by yourself. It's something about that cigar that gives you a certain clarity, a certain. easiness to your thought process. To me, I mean, that's.
It's just, I'm in a whole different world, bro. When I got my cigar. I am, man. Every time I grab my cigar, that's the first thing I grab, and then I figure out, you know, what beverage I'm going to have with it. uh sometimes it's with my bourbon other times it you know it'd be a wine i'm a i'm a i'm a wine person through and through Uh You know, but when I grabbed that cigar.
Told her that cigar, I kind of sit back and I just get to think like, like, like, what all right, what have I not done? Who do I need to coach? Who do I need to? Yeah, okay. You know, that's that cigar that first hit that cigar, you kind of lean back on the wall and be like, you know what, wait a minute.
What do I need to do today? And that's how I kind of start my day off with that, man, and just. You know, I got an eight-year-old son, man.
So, you know, I get up every morning, make sure he's good. Then, after that, I grab my cigar. And I just sit back. And, you know, lately, I've been looking at everything that I have right now, how blessed I am, and how good God has been. And I'm just, I just sit in this garage.
I'm in a garage now. uh you know i'm just like man okay what's the next what's the next level what's the next step what have what have i not done not musically but what have i what have i not done for the people around me what have i not done for people that mess with me that, you know, really are with me. You know, what have I not done for my church? What have I not done for my parents? What can I do to ease the stress of the people around me?
And that's my biggest thing because. You know, I'm at this level of success, thanks to God. And my hard work second, God first, hard work second. And I just kind of sit back and like, all right, what do I need to do? Let me call my dad up.
Hey, man, you guys need anything? Like I said, my dad's successful, they're retired, my parents. They don't need nothing. I just be calling them, hey, what's up? What you need?
Oh, we're about to go to the store. You want me to go? You want me to go to the store? I'll go get it for you, whatever you need. And then after that, I get done talking to them.
I'm, you know, asking, you know, my son's mom and my son's mom are separated. I'm just like, hey, is everything good? Is there anything where I fell back on? Obviously not. I'm like, all right, but just making sure that everybody around me is good.
And it's tough because you and me are Libras and in some way, shape, or form, we're alike. We like to make sure everybody is good and everybody's taken care of and nobody feels like, you know, you're abandoning them or not talking to them for whatever reason.
So we like to take care of people. You know, I just I just really take that first hit of that cigar and I just kind of sit back and I'm like, okay. What do I need to do? You know, and, you know, I just, I just, I just thank God for everything that I have, man, for real.
Well, with that kind of attitude and that kind of perspective, bro, it's nothing that you can't do, nothing you can't accomplish. There'll be some hiccups, some bumps in the roll, some challenges, but. The road to success is not easy. It's not a smooth path. You gotta figure your way out.
You gotta go through some heartbreaks. difficult times, but at the end of the day when you love what you do, There's really not work. You just got to figure out what your lane is and keep it moving.
So, brother, you know, I'm here. I love it. I appreciate you taking the time to jump on. I know you're busy, but. You know, I'm following, I'm watching.
Anytime you want to chop it up. Let me know. Can't wait to get that bourbon. Then the wine is coming next, and then the tour, then all of this. I'm buying in.
I've been there since day one. And I'm loving every bit of it, so I appreciate you, brother. I want you to enjoy that cigar, that bourbon. Have a great day, great weekend. And you know, we'll catch up soon, especially when you get back to L.A.
Absolutely. Thank you so much, man. You know, I'm going to have you out here, man. I'm going to fly you out here, man. We got to hang out for it, especially, you know, it's about to be football time.
It gets cooler in the Midwest. I got to get you out here like within the month, man. Otherwise, it's going to get chilly. I ain't coming when it's snowing. I tell you that now.
That's what I'm saying, bro. I got to get you out. I got to get you out here while it's in the 70s and 80s before it gets to the 50s and 40s. I could do 60s. I could do 60s.
Yeah, but we got to go, we got to, you know, we got to do the whole, the whole thing, man.
So we got to, we got to make that happen. And, and to anybody that's watching this, man, that you have kids, make sure, you know, by the way, I've, you know, I'm also a business owner as well.
So, you know, if you have kids, man, go to, go to, go on YouTube, go to Doggyland. Me, Snoop, and Claude Brooks own Doggy Land, the kids show, man, that just absolutely exploded, man. If you've heard of Cocomelon and you've heard of Gracie's Corner and all that, man, we're in the top five, man, of one of the best kids' shows, man, out there, educational kids show. We do affirmations. We do, you know, ABCs, your numbers.
We're doing stuff from, I report here in Salvador, Indiana, and it goes all the way to Kenya. It goes all the way to Malawi, Africa. It goes all the way to Australia.
So we're just doing so well with this kid stuff, man. I'm just so happy that the kids love the music and the things that I'm doing. My son's got a kid's book coming out. He's on the show as well. You know, he goes by a little tug.
And, you know, I'm the voice the character Wolfie on Doggy Land. I do the music and I'm co-owner of Doggy Land.
So for anybody watching, if you watch Pigs. On YouTube, go to YouTube. YouTube or youTube. Yep, YouTube or YouTube kids and type in Doggy Land. It's going to pop right up, man.
And I'm just very grateful and very blessed, man.
So I just appreciate being on this show, man, on this podcast. This is. Honestly, one of the best that I've ever done, man. I just love you for having me on, man. And just thank you.
I appreciate you. Always, brother. Always. Talk to you soon, too. Yes, sir.
Thank you, Paul. Man, that was a vibe. Big thank you to October London, aka Sam Nash, for blessing us with some stories, some laughs. And of course, that energy that only true RB can give. If you haven't already, Go stream is music.
It's therapy for your ears and also for the speakers. And as always, thank you for kicking it with us here on the show. Until next time, stay cool, stay soulful. Don't do anything October wouldn't sing about. Hey, folks, let me ask you a serious question.
Did you know that driving high is considered driving under the influence? That's right. Driving under the influence of marijuana is against the law in every state. That means. even in states where marijuana is legal.
That means driving high could get you a DUI. And if you think law enforcement officers can't tell when you're driving high, well my friend, you're wrong. If you're high, they can tell. Your friends can tell. Their co-workers can tell.
Even your parents can tell. Everyone could tell.
So, what makes you think that law enforcement officers don't know when you're driving high? You'd be wrong. They can tell too. Driving under the influence of marijuana can slow your response time and change how you perceive time and speed.
So, even if you think you're fine to drive when you're high, you're not. Because the bottom line is if you feel different, you drive different. And driving high is driving under the influence.
So remember, drive high, get a DUI. Paid for by NHTSA.
