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Yeah. That was just a dark moment in all of our lives. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Talking about Devontae Adams in regards to Jimmy Garoppolo, eight different uses of the F word. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.
What's just a four-letter F word? Would you call that a noun? The word f ⁇ . Is a noun. The Rich Eisen Show.
You describe the person, place, or thing. Earlier on the show, co-host of Good Morning Football, Manta Teo, Pro Football Hall of Famer, Michael Irvin, WWE superstar, The Miz. Coming up, director Gotham Chopra. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.
I mean, I don't know how much more. Energy one can get when you have The Miz and Michael Irvin back to back, as we did in hour number two. Right. I got a good call. But that was great.
That was an hour. An hour of uh an hour of power. To use the prices right, Freud. Yes, sir. The power hour.
The power hour. I just had a nice chat with Gotham Chopra back in our green room. This man has been part of the religion of sports world for quite some time. He's been chronicling a lot of Tom Brady's career. Remember that Facebook Watch documentary on TB12?
It's kind of one of the first ones to come out like that. The latest one built in Birmingham, Brady and the Blues, a five-episode doc that follows the players, staff, and owners of Birmingham City during their record-breaking campaign of last year. Uh and the last time I saw Gotham, he had a camera. In his hand, recording the final class of Pete Carroll's at USC, that class that I was telling you about. Um Gotham's going to come out here.
Because Brady's now part of Pete's world. Brady helped hire Pete. I mean, there's a lot of connective tissue, certainly going into this playing season. And uh Jay Felly wearing his Raiders hat over there. Hey.
Um Also top story here. During the Commercial break when I went back to talk to Gotham, I noticed. Barada Girls got cookies. Wait, there's a five-legged ones. There's a full sleeve, yes, sir.
It's all gone. I don't know if it was the final recording. Of season one of Women's Sports Now. Maybe everybody there was sampling the final. Thin mints, they're all gone.
Um They're all gone. Nothing we can do about it. They did leave with a cookie, though, Rich. Women's sports now. That's true.
They did believe women's sports now. They left.
So Hello Sunshine, which co-hosts. The um Pardon me, co-produces the terrific show Women's Sports Now, final episode of season one available on Roku right now. Um They made cookies with the faces of Some of the hosts. Yeah. All of them.
Interesting that you have. Sarah's, right. I had left on my My laptop. Oh, there's Susie's. Nice.
Whose do you have over there, TJ? Who do you have over there? It looks like they left me Colleen's. Isn't that interesting? Of all the co-hosts that you get the Colleen Wolf cookie, I wonder why that would be.
No, I appreciate it, though. Thank you. I'm sure you did. What does mine have done Tufo?
Okay. There's all of that. It's fascinating as well. This looks so good. I've been wanting to eat this all day.
I don't know. I don't know. Um, if this was all purposeful, like, or Susie placed it here, Sarah placed it there. I know Colleen was at Denver Broncos campus. I'm pretty sure she didn't, she didn't place it there, but somebody did, and I find that an excellent choice.
I mean, someone had it since you're a big fan of Colleen Wolf. Oh, is that though? Really? Of course, really is, but maybe not like you. Listen, where some sort of order needs to be restored.
But anyway, like Susie placed it herself. She did herself. She did. Because. I noticed this to start the program.
I don't think we have a shot of this. But over the camera I'm looking into, in Susie's cookie. It's placed above the lens. Oh, that's hilarious. Really?
Yes. I have a goose. Come around to me. I can kind of see it there. That is the back end of it.
Susie did this. Susie buoy special on that one. Ah. Placed there. You see Susie.
Come over here, TJ. You can come over here. You just look straight down the lens right there. And there she is. And there she is.
You know what? Put this on.
Okay. You can see that news. TJ is shooting a photograph of that. All that inspiration. Very good.
There we have it.
Sorry to get jet scrambling to get this shot of something, but it's directly above my lens. I'm looking straight at my wife right now. She was very excited and the viewing audience. My wife.
Okay. It's nice. Perfect.
Okay. Yes, there's all of that. Right here on our program. There you go. There it is.
What's up, hon? Oh, by the way, that's when she had longer hair. Yeah. She had three inches off. This much off, and expected us to get it.
And she got upset. Like, do you notice something different? When your spouse asks you, do you notice something different about me? Your only thought as a man is like, how am I going to. Get tricked into giving the wrong answer.
What is the right answer? What's the right answer other than you look great? I don't know. That you look greater? Is that the difference?
Could you be more bad? You could have cut three inches off my hair, and I'm like, Oh. That's what it is. Wow. But you know what I mean?
Like, that was the wrong answer. You know that, right? Look to the cookie. Always look to the cookie.
Well, I'm looking at the cookie right now. I don't think she preferred to be called a cookie. Are we just saving these cookies? We'll just put them on the cookie. Oh, no.
I might start eating it. Stop yourself. There you go. It's a nice cookie of Sarah. It's a one-of-one right there.
Well, she brought one home too, so there are two of them.
Okay. Give it a cage. What's the matter with you? But like, he needs more sugar. I gotta say, Renee left with like 15 of her own.
She just like piled them up. She should like, she should slide them across the court of the next Atlanta Dream game. They never know it's going to slide across the court. There are inmates still, apparently. Yeah, there are a lot of people.
I knew there was a sleep back there. I don't know. You probably just looked at it. There's a lot of stuff back there. You probably just left over.
Okay. Business of the show, everybody. Business of the show. Check all those boxes. This is the show.
Let's not put this on YouTube. Jimmy and Sen, please. Absolutely, we are. But you know what the number one video of our day is right now?
Well, it's our conversation talking about what slid across the floor of the Atlanta Dream Game with Susie. What glide is that? It's going gangbusters right now on our YouTube channel. I had to take myself out of that conversation. There's too many funny things.
Oh, my God. The king of That's what she said needed to zip his mouth shut. I didn't want to get fired. The problem is, we're having a conversation with HR on the air about it. He doesn't care.
Chris refers to himself as Rich Eisencho HR, although that is going to change. I am the head of HR. Wait a minute. Why? Jimmy in San Antonio, Texas.
Jimmy in San Antonio. You're here on the Rich Isaiah. What's up, Jimmy? What the hell is going on with you? Good question.
Unclear? Figured Jimmy would call when he saw these cookies here, Jimmy. We got cookies. We got cookies. See what I got?
No, no, no. Zip it. Enough with the cookies and the lady talk stuff. Say, Jimmy, don't be sad, bro. I'm not sad.
I'm glad everyone survived the dopiest tsunami of all time. That was the worst. Yeah, but thank goodness. I'm glad y'all are okay. Yes, thank you.
Mantai Teo was telling me before sitting here that everybody that he knows in Hawaii is okay too.
So, but at any rate, what is on your mind? Jimmy?
Well, I was chilling on the couch with a finely rolled Lebowski, and I heard you mention. Susie and the Win the Lost game. Yes. And then I remembered that I did it with your wife, and I don't know if she were. Did she write it down?
She wrote it down. Jimmy is saying, she probably didn't. She didn't. She did, but it's just usually writing the second look to the cookie. That was right.
Look to the cookie. All right.
So, you want to do it? Like, for real? Like, officially, I'll write it down, Jimmy. You want to do it? Let's do it for real.
And I had 10 and 7 with Susie, but I don't know if it's going to be the same.
Okay, let's see. Let's all come out and watch. Jimmy and San Antonio win-loss for the Dallas Cowboys.
Alright. Actually, wait a minute. Cowboy James in San Antonio, that's not you. No, no, no. Cowboy James is a fake imposter.
Okay, very good. All right, this is Jimmy in San Antonio. No cowboy in him except win-loss. What happens on opening night? Jimmy?
Who's it against?
Well, the Philadelphia Eagles, Jimmy. Oh, that's a loss.
Okay. Home for the Giants. When? At the Chicago Bears. Win.
Two and one, home for the Packers. Another win. Look at you going higher register to try and make you believe it. Three and one at the Jets. Oh, win.
Is that the same reaction at the Carolina Panthers? No, it was very confident. But At the Panthers, what happens? Oh, a win.
Okay. Okay. Well, five, but if you're going 10 and 7, that means the rest isn't going very well after 5 and 1. Home for the commanders. Loss.
There we go. Five and two at the Broncos. Lost. Five and three. Home for the Cardinals on a Monday night.
Win. Six and three off the bye at the Raiders on a Monday night. Win. Seven and three, home for the Eagles. Lost.
Swap, Tom. 7-4, home for the Chiefs on Thanksgiving. Lost. Seven and five at the Lions the following Thursday. Win.
Eight and five home for the Vikings. Win. Nine and five, home for the Chargers. When? 10 and 5 at the Commanders.
Lost. That's a sweep, huh? 10-6 at the Giants. I'll take a win. All right, so you go 11-6, Jimmy in San Antonio.
I've recorded it all. 11-6, though you aren't going to win the division if you're swept by both the Eagles and the Commanders. Um so you'll be 2-4 in division, but 11-6 overall. Which I think that's a playoff record, right? In the ASC 117.
In the NC 11.6 makes it. All right, Jimmy.
Okay, that would be fine. I mean, Susie's hair looked great when she had three inches cut off. There you go. You noticed it, Jimmy. You noticed it.
I'll take that 11 and 6. Thank you very much, Jimmy. There you go, Jimmy in San Antonio. Always entertaining when he joins the program. Later, Jimmy.
Let's talk Jaden Daniels. He spoke just like everybody else involved. With a franchise that's having a contractual standoff with an important player, he's asked about it. This is what he had to say about Terry McLaurin. holding in now after holding out.
It's great having Terry back in the building and you know we just communicate like a normal day. Talk about ball, we talk about life, so I mean nothing's changed at all. How important is it? to you That he's able to get back on the field sooner than later to sort of continue to build on what you had last year. I think it's super important for everybody.
Just get as many rests as possible before the big show, the real thing, is to happen. But I know that time will come. And until then, I mean, if that's us getting in the film room and watching film and just talking, that's other ways we could do it. But I mean, like I said, man, it's nothing's changed since Terry's been back in the building. When he was out of the building, you know, we always talk, we talk ball, talk.
life and so nothing's changed at all. There's no chance they don't get this kid. His go-to guy in time for the season. That would be such a dereliction of duty. Figure it out.
The numbers are there, the money is there, figure it out. Right. What a massive. Massive Mistake it would be to go into season two of Jaden Daniels without number 17 on this roster. Giant, huge.
Be a shame. There's no other way. Like a nicely done Cowboy fan in the corner. It'd be a shame. I know.
One of the best quarterbacks. Wide receiver tandems in the NFL. blossoming in front of our eyes. Figure it out. Figure it out.
Get close to DK. They're gonna do it. They're gonna do it. I mean, it's just the end of that story. I saw him at the Fanatics Fest.
He's just the same way. The guy that you just saw on the screen is the guy that was not in front of the cameras that day. You know? taking pictures with everybody, including sweet Judd Silbowitz. The young son of Agent to the stars.
Wearing a Jaden Daniels jersey. He loves Jaden Daniels. You know, we had him on a Super Bowl show, and I saw him at Fanatics 2. And I told him, you know, I'm a Cowboys fan. And he goes, but do you like me?
He said that to me. And I was like. Yeah, dude. It's a yeah, man. I kind of do.
He's like his smile. He's very likely, yeah. He really is. You don't want to as a cowboy. Between him and Howie Roseman, like very much enemies of mine.
And I really like both of them. And I don't know, you know, I like them both. Susie of Los Angeles is calling in. Hey, Susie. Suze, you there?
On the guest line there. Hey, listen, guys. I'm trying to get some sports information and you're talking. Uh-oh, the phone just crapped out. Did you feel hang up on it?
I don't know what's going on. You there, Susan? Or something like that? Can you hear me? Yeah, now we can.
I don't know what part of the house you're calling in from, so it's not that. No, I'm in the car. Oh, by the way, that's your office away from your office. Right away hands-free. Are you sitting in the driveway?
Susie comes home. She sits in the driveway and makes 15 minutes of calls from the driveway. I understand. I understand that when the kids are in the house, I don't want to go in just yet. That one I get.
No, but I'm in the car with Deborah and Min and Oxley, and we're on the way out, and I'm listening, and I'm trying to get sports information. But you're talking about my hair, my cookies that were left behind. James Crittenden is the one that put the cookie in camera one. Wow. So I'm just holding him, please, because.
That's so off-brand. That's so off-brand for the lead adult of Rich Eisen Productions. He's the adult. He's supposed to be the adult. That is true.
Okay. But you look great. James Quitton does have a dark side.
Well, thank you. It's my bitchy resting feet. There is the BRF cookie. I'm looking at the BRF cookie right here. And this is way back when.
Jimmy and San Antonio, I just want to tell him, too. Always assume I'm not paying attention. I can't read out the list of teams and write down your win-loss at the same time. That's for Brockman to do. You're the queen of listening.
Excuse me. Don't buy that. She's the queen of listening to someone else's conversation 15 feet away, hearing that while having a conversation with you. Selective heroes. She's like the most.
Well-adjusted multitasker, I've met.
So don't buy any of that too. Yes. Last thing is that if you want to hear more conversations, About the adult toy that made its way across the floor and landed right at the front of Renee Montgomery's seat, much to producer to the stars, Dom Bowie's chagrin. We did open the entire show of Women's Sports Now talking about it before. How would we have not Talked about the quote-unquote elephant in the room.
You're welcome. Bye, guys. Have a great day. Wait a second, please. Don't hang up yet.
We applaud you for your rundown. You said the video was online and she hung up. Wow. And I'm looking, and it's got 40,000 views, right?
So I'm like, what are the people saying about this object? And out of 100 comments, literally 98 of them, Rich, are how basically you outpunted your coverage. That's literally all anyone is saying. That's all I've heard for a quarter century. Oh, Cowboy James wants to.
Oh, my goodness gracious. This is like Oxnard yesterday, right? Cowboy James in San Antonio is chiming in. What's up? You're there, Cowboy James?
Yeah. Hello? Yeah, you're on the air, Cowboy James. Hey, Rich, man, hey, I'm calling because I. I resent Jimmy calling me fake.
I'm 60 years old. I've been a Cowboy fan since 72. When you have the white the white plastic helmet and use a uh a m uh a permanent mark and draw a star on the side. I'm a right leg amputee all my since 06. All my prosthetics have been laminated with cowboys.
Rich. Guess what the last four numbers of my email is? 228808. You know who that stands for, don't you? That's the triplets.
Yeah. Exactly. I am no fake. I'm win, lose, or draw. Cowboy jeans.
Cowboy jeans. Let's go. Let's go. We can't have all this cowboy infight, really. I'll be the Brian Schottenheimer here.
Jimmy, cowboy James, do you want to be champions or not? You know? You want to be champions, right? Cowboy James? Right?
Yes, sir. Okay. All right.
Thanks for calling in and puffing the chest out. I appreciate y'all taking my call, man. Y'all do a great job. Thank you, Paul. Taboo, James.
Thanks for listening. Thanks for being time. I love it. I got to call the show and defend myself. Right.
Jimmy and James, we can't have this infighting. We need to come together right now. I'm on the last bite. I've eaten all of Sarah. Pause.
It's all gone. You guys are talking about this, we're talking about this. That's why you're going to be allowed. To talk sometimes. I don't know This is why the author of That's What She Said is not allowed to talk sometimes.
This has got to be the only part of my life where I'm the most behaved. Where's the available where books are sold? How much is that? How much. Should we find out whose book is worth more?
That's what she said, or total access. I'm on it in the break. Please, finish the cookie.
Meanwhile, the I've got two. One of my wife's right here on the keyboard, and one literally at the camera I'm looking at right now. There it is. All right, good. All right, come out.
Let's refocus the camera, not on Susie's cookie. Yeah. Be quiet. But on the guest chair, Gotham Chopra is going to come out here and restore some order. That's next on the rich eyes.
What's the matter with you? The third major project in collaboration with religion and sports. And our next guest, Tom vs. Time, was the first Man in the Arena, the second, and now a five episode documentary series. Following the player staff and owners of Birmingham City during last year's record-breaking season, and one of the owners is Tom Brady, and the co-director of this.
Doc, that can be seen on Prime Video, Gotham Chopro, is back here on the River Tison Show. Good to see you, sir. It's been a while, but it's been a while. It has been a day while I think you were on for way before Tom v. Tom when you were doing a religion of sports collaboration with the old audience network here on the campus of Direct TV.
Tom Brady has a pejorative term for the. portion of him that nobody thought existed, which is a quitter. And then he curses out the pejorative word he has for himself. Did I just hear that? That's a pretty good breakdown, yeah.
Which is how you become Tom Brady. Yeah. Yeah, you know, watching that, it's like, and you mentioned in the this is our third project together, but I've also like now gotten to know Tom really well and gotten close to him and been you know, on and off the field through a lot of stuff with him. And yeah, like I think The function of that is his openness and his willingness, and that's that's him. I mean, you've gotten to know him too.
Yes. And you know, there's a version of him that's. out there for the cameras and stuff, and then there's a version for him of him. That's him. That's the authentic version.
And that's the version that had all that success at the Patriots, especially in the latter half when he. Became a leader. Tom Brady, you're referring to. Our radio audience just chimed in in the middle of that answer. Gotham Chopra is the co-director of Prime Video is built in Birmingham.
Brady in the Blues, following along the team that Tom Brady purchased a piece of over across the pond, is unmandated to say anything that involves sports in the UK. And that's available on Prime Video right now. And Religion of Sports co-founded by Brady and Stray, right? Yeah. Okay.
And you. Talk to these guys often or how much are you interfacing with these guys? How involved in the business are they? They're pretty busy. They're very busy.
They're both really busy. But I would say, I mean, look, first of all, their founders, they've inspired this whole thing. They're incredibly engaged when I ask them to be. Like, hey, I need an intro to this, or what do you think about that? They're both really accessible.
I mean, with Tom in particular, you know, we've done a lot with him because especially at that transition from, you know, the last years of football, which we thought were going to be in 2017, and then it kept on going and going and going. But then even as he's just transitioned, so we've done a lot of content around Tom. Right. Anything in the booth for Fox? Do you have that stuff?
I mean, there's been some stuff captured. You know, I think when we were working in 2017 on the initial Tom versus Time thing, you know, that was around the time the last dance was being talked about and people were talking about it's coming out. And suddenly in our business, everybody's like, oh, let's. Make the next last stand.
So it's, you know, singular moment, singular athlete. But if there was one athlete that you're like, oh, you know what? We should be capturing content. It was Tom. Like, how's this going to end?
And so we never stopped, which led to a series of. Projects, but I think also there continues to be a lot of content capture because, you know, I don't want to take 30 years like they did with The Last Dance, but there's probably some version of a legacy film at some point. On the Patriots, you're talking about? I think it's the Patriots, it's the Bucks. There was some stuff we captured around the Bucks at the end.
Transition out of football. Right. And I mean, well, but the last stance would be the Patriot. Right. Like it, because the last dance was about a dynasty that could have kept going, but for various reasons of what was going between management, coach, and what was going on between management and player.
Uh, essentially got in the way. Yeah, I mean, that was the that was the message of the last dance, yeah. And then there were some chemistry issues amongst the stars of the team that was boiling over for a while. Although, I wouldn't sense that from the Patriots, and I'll be honest with you: the Brady roast, which I'm sure you must have been at, right? I was there, okay.
I was too. That felt like a therapy session, yeah. And it was important for the therapy session to happen there, even though I know Brady has mentioned regrets about the roast, certainly when it comes to his children having to hear all that stuff on the stage. But in terms of his um retirement ceremony at at Gillette. I thought that was a lot more kumbaya and everything had gotten out of the way due to the roast.
I really believe that. Yeah, encouraging for sure. I thought so. Like that there were some things that were said through humor that couldn't have been said directly face to face that would have allowed the Knight and Gillette to be as so. Um, you know, I guess wondrous as it was.
I really believe that. Yeah, I think you're right. Like, I think the purging of all the toxic stuff helped. I think also time, you know, time perspective. Yes.
You know, and that perspective was leaving the Patriots, it was going to a different organization, having some success. Right. It was off the field stuff. It's like, what's really important to you? Who's really impacted your life?
I mean, Tom's, and he's still in that stage because he's still in a transitional stage. And so I think, but he's very like self-aware in that sense, you know. He's young still by human standards, but he's a pretty old guy as far as like sports athlete standards. Right. And he's gained a lot of perspective.
So. Yeah. I think that that night, yeah, I was there also at the Patriots Hall of Fame thing or whatever. That's a beautiful night. It was really special.
It was free of all the stuff. Yeah. Right. And it helps, I guess, to do what, vodka or tequila shots together on a stage, right? and and get all the stuff out about you know Belichick the from You know, Gronk and Edelman saying that, and obviously emotional, right?
And then, you know, Kraft was showing up, and then whatever was going on there. That was removed from Brady's night in Gillette. Yeah. You know, a few weeks later, I think.
So when folks flip on Amazon Prime, probably midnight tonight, I imagine. That's the way things happen in the streaming world because it debuts on this Friday, tomorrow. What are they going to see? Yeah, so you know we tracked that team.
So Tom got involved, I guess, now two years ago and as part of the ownership group. And look, Welcome to Wrexham has laid the path for this type of narrative. And so we just thought it would be interesting. And also like, you know, they crossed paths as well. Oh, yeah, because they both...
So what happened the first year, you know, is this big idea, like two Americans, one big, you know, billionaire Wall Street guy, and then Tom Brady, the greatest, you know, winner of all times, at least in American sports, come in and they're going to reverse the course of this franchise that, you know, has had, at best, mediocrity through its 125 years of history. And, you know, the expectation is it's going to be awesome. It's going to be great. They're going to reverse. And of course, the first thing they do is they fire the coach.
Not a good idea. And it was terrible. It was terrible. And, you know, in the English football leagues, you have relegation. Yes, sir.
So if you don't make a certain standard, you get dropped. They got dropped. Tom Brady was part of a team that was so bad, it got moved to a lower league from the championship. Level to the League One level, which was terrible for them, awesome for us because there was a lot of great tension and story because it was like, oh, shoot, you know, and but we just kept the cameras rolling them from first season to the second season. And the second season, I think, where Tom Brady and Tom Wagner, you know, his co-owner, were able really to implement their system, start rebuilding the culture, obviously bring in some players, and you could start to see the change.
And then they had, in a lower league, a historic season in terms of like wins, success, et cetera. And so now they've been promoted, as has Wrexham, into the championship back to where they started.
Well, you, as a documentarian of Brady, and someone who's been around Tom, and I think Raiders fans would take interest in this, is what is Brady's. Style of ownership. Like, what would you obviously? You know, he doesn't have as large a piece of the Raiders as he would. Birmingham, but what is he bringing to the equation in Vegas that you've seen that he brought to the equation here in this documentary?
Well, I mean, I think the honest answer is it's still a work in progress because it's new to him. And I think one of the things he's realized is: you know, when you're a player, certainly when you're the quarterback, certainly when you're Tom Brady at the latter, you have control. Like you are the guy on the field calling the plays, directing your teammates, et cetera. When you're an owner, a coach or an owner, you know, you're removed. And so you have to put put the other guys in position to be the best versions of themselves.
Do it. And so that requires a level of surrender. But look, I think Tom. By the way, people of his. Yeah.
I mean, stature and accomplishment have a tough time doing it. That's really good. And that's why what Dion's doing is amazing because when you're. A Hall of Famer. Yeah.
with uh the heart of a champion, the mindset of a champion, and the physical abilities to back it all up. You don't suffer fools very well. And it's tough to coach that sort of thing, like it's tough to coach down, right? Where, because you're trying to reach people who need to be dragged. In a way that you never had to be by a coach, right?
Totally. And so it can't be simple. It's not simple. It's a different generation of players. You know, how you motivate them is different than, you know, I remember when we did the Man in the Arena series, you know, the generation of players that he really grew up with, like the Mike Vrabels, the Teddy Bruskies, the Ted Johnsons, Willie McGinnis, like that's a very different, that's a pre-social media generation, pre-millennial generation.
So now, even though you have incredibly talented players, the Max Crosby's and Geno Smiths, this is a different culture and how you influence and inspire.
So I think Tom's learning that. Look, at the end of the day, he's a guy who's like, you know, he tells me all the time, he's like, you know, people love to talk about culture.
Well, culture are people. And, you know, what are people? People are made up of values. Like, what are the uncompromising values of this organization going to be? And he has thoughts on that.
So does Pete Carroll, so does John Svitek, so do all the people now. And like, now you gotta figure it out. A different you know, I think they all share belief that culture drives success. But now, like, you really get into the component parts of that culture, and you got to figure it out. And then you just have players.
Well, I mean, if you had told me that Tom Brady would eventually have ownership, a piece of an NFL franchise, I would have believed it. If you had told me that when he got a piece of that franchise, that franchise would be open for business and hiring a coach, I'd say, okay, now I'm very intrigued. And if you had told me the coach you would hire would be from a Super Bowl he was involved in, I'd be like, oh. How is Belichick available? And Belichick was available.
Yeah. And he chose, along with the rest of the Raiders, Pete Carroll. And that one, I think, arched a few eyebrows. Yeah. Were you around for that?
Yeah, because I had gotten to know Pete, you know, as I'm sure we'll talk about through this class that he was involved in teaching here at USC.
So I'd gotten to know him. And then, you know, Pete had told me at the time, he's like, I'm a happily retired guy and having a good time, you know, not interested in that stuff. Then Black Monday comes. Then, you know, one of Pete's mantras is always compete. And I think he started to hear I was too old.
You know, Pete's, he's out there, but he's not really a candidate. He's 73 years old. It's passed him by. And, you know, that guy. That's all you need.
That's all he needs. Yeah. That's all his needs. And I don't, I think, you know, he was a candidate. Again, I wasn't in any of these rooms or anything, but like, I think I can see having gotten to know both of them pretty well.
Oh yeah. Like Again, maybe like a different component parts, which now they will figure out together, but the belief in like culture-driving success, and you know, in the NFL, like. Everybody's good. All the players are great. You don't get to that level unless you're exceptional.
It's not necessarily talent that it's like, how do you motivate guys? Who's got the resilience? Who's got all of that? And those two guys, man, they inspire. That's the connective tissue?
That's the connective tissue. I mean, they just have. Look, I mean, it's what Mike Tyson's saying: everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face, and we'll see what happens. Right. Of course, they open against the Patriots.
Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? But Tom won't be there. He's going to be in the booth for Fox that day. But that said.
Pete in New England, where he used to coach as well. Um if I'm not mistaken, he was the predecessor to Bellichee. Yeah. And now he's showing up as the coach of the Raiders' first game in New England. I got Gotham Chopra here on the Rich Eisen Show.
Built in Birmingham, Brady and the Blues is a new documentary on Prime Video that starts tomorrow, February 1st, pardon me, Friday, August 1st, on Prime Video. Let's talk about Pete and that class at USC because I was at the last one of them. Yeah. Susie, my wife, Susie Schuster, goes way back with Pete. She met Pete when she was covering USC here working locally in sports.
Loves Pete. connect with Pete. Pete's like, hey, I'm teaching a class at USC. And it's the last one. Why don't you come down?
And she says to me, you should come down.
Now, Thursday's my poker nut. And that's inviolate, pretty much.
So I'm serious. This is the way it went. I'm like, absolutely, I'll go, but maybe, you know. I don't want to intrude. I should, I'm going to leave, or whatever.
I didn't budge. Yeah. I watched that two-hour. final class where all the kids in this class We're talking about what Pete and what he was teaching all season all semester long. Had made an impact on all of them.
I'm getting goosebumps just remembering it. And you were there with a camera.
So you've documented everything that I came on this show to talk about for how many classes were you there? I mean, I think there was like 14 classes in that whole semester, and I was there for at least. Half, if not more, ten of them or so. Why'd you get involved with this? Did you hear about it through after you got hired?
Yeah, so my really closest friend is the dean of religion, was the co-professor of that class, uh, Varun Soni. He's the dean of religion at USC. Yeah, the other gentleman on the screen, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got the Raiders hat now, he's a true believer. But um, he, uh, you know, I've known him for a long time, and he told me in the early stages, Hey, I'm like starting to develop this thing with Pete. And I think, and look, it was a perfect story.
It was like the old ball coach is coming back to the school that made him a legend to see if he can inspire these kids. You know, it's going to take all the wisdom he has gained from 40 years of school, 40 years of coaching, and bring it back to these kids. And the kids were all mostly juniors and graduating seniors getting ready for the real world. And so the idea was like, can Pete come and help them as they transition? He sure did.
Oh, my God. I've never seen anything like that, Gotham. It was beautiful. And every week. He's crying.
I didn't even meet these kids. Every week was like that. And, you know, every week, I'm trying to remember who was like the teacher in that. David Belasco was.
Well, they would bring in a guest. Right. Right. Yeah, like every week. And, you know, it was incredible.
He had Tom on one week. Teamed in once. Right. Yeah. And it was just like, I mean, Pete has this ability, even though he's 73 years old, to connect.
And relate to people and, you know, with that. Which is why he can be terrific as a coach of the Raiders. I mean, it was deeply personal to me, too, because, you know, I live in Los Angeles. I lived in the Palisades. You know, we were affected by the fires right when the class was starting.
My son, who's the 17-year-old at Pally High, his school was basically done. He was going to have to go on Zoom. And I told Pete, I'm like, hey, can I bring my son to this class? And one of his classmates, and Pete's, of course, you know, Dean Sony will figure it out with the university. I took my son for that first class.
And afterwards, as we were driving home, my son said, Can I come next week? And I called Pete, and Pete's like, oh, yeah, he's part of this class. He's part of the tribe now. Amazing. He and his friend Kai, every week, they were there every week.
I didn't go every week. My son did. And it was like transformative. Output transcript at a very long time. Yeah.
And it's just like that. Pete has that ability to understand, like, okay, what's your story? What do you need? How can I help you? unpack it.
And it's just I mean and I think that's I mean, I've been up in Vegas a few times. Like, you can see it. He's now doing it with the players. It's actually the same. You're like, oh.
And he always says, he's like, watch, I'm going to do the same gags that he does in the class, he does in some of the meetings. And it does work. Because, by the way, like some of these players are 23, those kids were 23. 21, 22 in the class? Right, with their world in front of them.
They were just about to graduate, so they knew that they were going in a new world and. And they had a coat of armor about themselves, about their confidence level as who they were as people, and their confidence level of what they learned, and how they can translate it to maybe getting that first job. Awed and jealous at the same time that they felt empowered. And I'm like, how can I feel that way? I literally felt the left the class saying that.
He was so open and vulnerable. You mentioned, you know, he talks a lot about his origin story, the Patriots. You know, that was.
Well, he got fired from all these. And he says, like, getting fired from the Patriots forced him to really like. Reflect on what his story was and why was he doing it?
So he's been through this process, and that's kind of what he helped these kids unpack. And I mean, I say kids, but they're like young adults going out into the world during a very difficult time, climate, AI, like everything's upside down. Yes. And, you know, he just really helped them connect with themselves. Yeah.
It's amazing. I mean, you're in the editorial. I know. And I'm at a stage like, you know, my career too, where I'm like, you know, I have this incredible privilege of having access and building all these relationships. And so I sometimes just like, I want to go see where it goes.
So, like, you know, yeah, we have all that stuff in the can. We've been working on it. But, you know, it's also hard to cinematically build something that takes place in a classroom.
So it's like, oh, now he's taking a lot of. what Pete learned, 'cause he's also curious and hungry and always evolving. And he's taking his experience from the class and now integrating it into the Raiders. Seeing what works, and so we're, you know, poking around over there, seeing what's happening. And, you know, I just let these things like even that Birmingham thing, we thought it was gonna be the first season, but then we're like, let's keep going.
Let's wait till this thing is ready. And then after two seasons, it was ready. And so we'll see.
Okay. Well, I can't. Do you know who's teaching the class this fall? There's some, they're going to keep it going. No, I know who it is.
Yeah. It's Susie. It's my wife. Oh, really? Yeah.
David Velasco. asked because we saw it. It meant a lot to her. And she's doing it. And go back to following.
I know that. She knows that. She knows that. But she can't wait. She can't wait because she saw it.
She was equally inspired by it. And the green light occurred a few weeks ago, and she can't wait. She's already, she's trying to outbook Pete. Yeah. She's always competing too.
I hope hopefully my, you know, well, Professor Belasco, amazing, Professor Sony, Dean Sony, amazing. Like, so she's going to have great teammates. I'm telling you, she's psyched. I'm psyched for her. And you're right.
I mean, it's big shoes to fill, but she loves Pete, and she's going to continue to spirit.
Well, he'll be a great man. She's going to continue the spirit, you know. Prime Video is built in Birmingham. Brady in the Blues. It debuts tomorrow, Friday, August 1st.
Good to see you, sir. Yeah, thanks for having me. You got it. That's Gotham Chopra right here on the Rich Eisen Show. I'm just trying to keep up with you, bro.
That's it. I am. You do this. You got TV shows. You're the face of a network.
I'm not giving away cash and prizes. I'm not saying good morning to an entire nation every well. I guess on this show, I'm doing that. Yes, you're doing that. But I guess maybe it should be the good morning Rich Eisen Show America or something.
Let's not pick it now. I'm just saying we need to workshop that idea. Got to workshop that idea a little bit better than that. But it's good, man. I mean, and I'm one of these guys.
I'm very grateful. And I understand I owe everything to the game of football. And I know there's a lot of flack about football and a lot of the things that have come back, you know, the haunt, you know, from the players in the game. And I know a lot of players out there, a lot of issues, and there's a lot of responsibility that needs to be had on their behalf and on all the players' behalf. But at the same time, I think, you know, I'm very grateful as well.
And you've got a second season of Pyramid coming up soon, right? Yeah, $100,000 Pyramid, man. Come on, win some money, baby. Help somebody win some money. By the way, you know I am a game show aficionado.
Are you good? You know, everybody says that. I'm not doubting you, but everyone says, oh man, my mom, the same way. We did Chunky Soup commercial years ago. Oh boy, I can act.
My mom.
So we get there, and her line was: you need a hot bowl of chunky soup to fill you up right. What happened, Denzel Washington? Where are you now?
So the game sounds easy, and the game looks easy when you see someone who's really good at it. But it is tough when that clock is ticking, you got 30 seconds, and that person across from you. Straight, who are you talking to right now? Rich, I can give clues. I can receive the clues.
I know all of the business. I know you got to put your hands. In the straps. You know, you set yourself up, right? Oh, I'm ready to make somebody's.
$100,000 dream come true. on your show. It's going to happen. Ooh. Like Joe Namath.
I am calling myself. Oh, you're like Joe's name is now. Oh, yeah, I'm like Babe Reed. You're calling $100,000. You're guaranteeing $100,000 for whatever lucky individual your producers care to pair up with.
Oh, yes. All right, I got that. You know what? We're going to make that happen. I watch the Dick Clark daytime version.
I watched the Dick Clark nighttime version. And it's a watch. It's a your version. It is fun. I love it because.
Look, if Prime can do it, I can do it. Yeah, but I can't do it. He's Prime Yep. Yeah, Prime. I gotta say, wasn't Prime's finest moment to do the show.
Some of the, he was giving body signals that didn't match up with the words. I'm like, how does that mean money? I don't get it. But to Prime, it made sense. Yada, yada, yada.
I did it. Had someone said they were going to win. And they blew it. They blew it. The contestant blew it.
They were going to win. With all due respect. Yeah. Wherever the contestant is now.
So I got the shot. Stray was a man of his word. Constance Schwartz, a woman of her word. Got me on the program. I got into the winner's circle on the second shot at it.
with my contestant who blew it. With all due respect. The respect comes from the mm-hmm.
Okay. Well, she said the answer in the clue and it got buzzed and I got to the top otherwise. What more can I tell you? I can only, you listen, help me help you. Help me.
Just to. Yeah. Yeah. So I deserve another shot. Is what I'm saying.
Cheryl Miller was the final guest of season one of Women's Sports Now. It was dynamite. It's awesome. Here she is, just. spitting her truth about Yeah.
Topic that always comes up. that racism is at the heart of whatever business Caitlin Clark is receiving from her colleagues. In the W. Whether people want to talk about it, admit it. Or stick their head in the sand, there is racism, and there's always going to be racism because we are a racist nation at times.
At times. Are we better than that? Absolutely. Um But Don't throw no shade. or any shade.
or be jealous or angry about someone. who's benefiting From all the countless hours that she dedicated to playing basketball in her backyard. Mm-hmm. Timing's everything. And Caitlin, Caitlin deserves.
everything that she's receiving. Just like Asia and everyone else. And when one rises, come on now, just get on the current. Women's Sports Now. Check out the latest episode on.
Roku, right here. Season one in the books. Look forward to season two. And great show.
So proud of what they've done there. Sarah has hopefully had a blast with season one right now. Absolutely so proud of all those ladies. They did such a great job. Yeah, and Don Bowie, our coordinating producer, the whole team.
Hello, Sunshine, all of us here at Rich Eisen Productions, whatever we've been able to contribute. It's an honor. There's no other show like it where women talking about women's issues and women's sports, which, as you know, is. just taken off like a rocket ship. You know what marking out means.
When someone says they marked out.
Okay. Because that's what I did when I was kind of waiting on Cheryl Miller to come through the park instruction before I went home yesterday. Because I'm a big fan of that. I always say, like, to everyone who just now has started watching women's basketball, apparently, like. There's a goat And it's her.
And I'm the stick by that.
So I kind of shook her hand and marked out a little bit. And I think Liz had to push me away from her because it was like, yeah, a great, great, great final season one guest. He absolutely wasn't. She was so pleasant. She's great.
Had everyone here so much. I know, to the point where when I saw her, I hadn't seen her in years. We hugged it out, and I wanted desperately to say, on behalf of all Nick fans, what's your brother's malfunction? But she's so nice, I just couldn't do it. I wish we could put Cheryl Miller in that old time machine and bring her to present day and let her know.
I mean, if we knew that in advance that she's going to be the final. Guest of season one, we would have put her on a cookie. Absolutely. Season two. Yeah.
You know? Jim Rome takes on sports. Why? Because you're not playing me. With rapid fire takes.
And a lot to get to, and I'm not sure you're going to like all of it. Honestly, I don't even care if you like all of it or not. I have a job to do. Scorching debates. On any given week, you have lots to beef about.
Take advantage of it. Get up in here. He's the Spitfire of Sports Smack. Which is not my fault. We will get to all of that.
The Jim Rome Show podcast. Get up in here and we'll beef later on. What's your beef? Follow and listen on your favorite platform. You've been warned.
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