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This is the Rich Eisen Show. What if I had told you when you answered that phone that you and I would be having this conversation today and you're the NFC champion head coach getting set to coach Tom Brady in a home Super Bowl for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? You would have told me what? What are you smoking, bro? Give me something.
Today's guests, Atlanta Falcons head coach Arthur Smith, Academy Award winning actor Casey Affleck, plus co-host of Good Morning Football Kyle Brandt, and now. Yeah. It's really Rich Eisen. All right, everybody, welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Whether you're missing a five-foot putt or a three-foot putt, you're welcome on this program.
TJ's back. I mean, it's going to be one of those days. I told you before the show, Chris Brockman, I think it's going to be a loose one today. I'm excited. I told you I'd think it's going to be a little bit loose.
We're going to have a good time, as we do every day. But welcome to the show. You're smoking, bro. Give me some. Thank you very much.
That's a great way to start us off. Our newest drop, thanks to Bruce Arians, yesterday. Oh, my God. You're all Del 2 folk. Good to see you, bro.
TJ Jefferson, who missed the aforementioned. Here's the deal: I've made six in a row, Rich, and all of a sudden now you guys are going to bring up my one name. Actually, only as good as the last one, TJ. Great job, Mike. Thank you.
Thank you very much. After the Super Bowl, we'll hear a lot about this.
So we tell my kids, my kids are like, hey, I did so well and this, that, the other thing, but this one I didn't do. That's the latest one. You know? And then and then and that's when they want to swipe the best dad ever sign off my desk. You know?
But anyway, welcome to our program. We've got in our show lineup with just three guests. We're kind of all over the mat there. Our first guest calling in in about 19 minutes' time is the new head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, Arthur Smith. He from the Titan staff.
He'll be joining us. Can't wait to ask him if he was the one dressed as the Blue Men group in the background of the draft shot of Mike Vrable. Do I do that? I mean, you're part of the staff when you're part of theirs. Don't lead with that.
Don't lead with that? Yeah, don't lead with that. Because I did use real estate yesterday with Brandon Staley of the Los Angeles Chargers to ask about the parking situation at the new stadium where NFL Network's moving into. Totally valid. Totally valid.
But all right, maybe we'll ask Arthur Smith if Matt Ryan's a quarterback there. How about that one? How about those for two cents right there? You should probably lead with the Blue Man group. Maybe so.
Maybe so. We've got an Academy Award winner on this program right in the middle of the show. Casey Affleck will be joining us. He's got not one, but two new movies to talk about. And I can't wait to ask him his favorite Ocean's Eleven story, actually.
That was on last night. And he is on TNT. That's a remote drop. Good thing I didn't see it. I caught the last hour.
I mean, Ocean's 11 is a remote drop movie from the best movie. Doesn't matter. And, you know, Casey Affleck has won best actor. The uh Academy Award-winning director of Oceans 11 Soderbergh. He's going to be Steven Soderbergh's going to be producing the Oscars this year.
He's actually going to be the television producer of the Oscars this year.
So at any rate, uh Casey Affleck is a um as a diehard uh Boston sports fan. And I'll ask him a question that I asked you yesterday. How's it look, Chris, for Tom Brady and Gronk being in the Super Bowl for another team? We're in Pewter this time around. The Buccaneer Way.
You know what I mean? Doing your job for the Buccaneers. And that'll be later. And then Kyle Bryant of Good Morning Football will be joining us. And his latest guest in his podcast is a guest that we've got.
Teed up for our Super Bowl week next week, the actor Viggo Mortensen. Is on that. Apparently, also.
Something to ask Vigo when he's on the show next week, as well as I think he talked about with Kyle. Apparently, Viggo Mortensen was at. The miracle on ice victory. In the building. Like in 1980?
Yes. Apparently. This is apparently A fact. On the planet. Wow, that's amazing.
I know.
So that's all coming up on this program today. And a poll question that is a little bit off the rails, but we kind of dig it. We'll get to that in a minute. We went off the air yesterday, and there were two stories that kind of boom. Popped up.
One here in Los Angeles where Les Sneed, the general manager. of the LA Rams. He dropped the for the moment. Line, Chris. When a general manager or a coach drops the for the moment line, you It kind of gives you a little bit of a A little bit of a hitch in your giddy up.
The dreaded vote of confidence. For instance, for instance, and people wondering, what does that mean, Rich? What are you talking about for the moment? Chris Brockman. Yep.
Chris Brockman. Hey. You live with the mother of your child. I do. You just posted something beautiful.
And. On her Instagram page, because she's tweeting out about her job and she's the head writer for Spades Show on Netflix, right? And you love her. You love Sarah Channel. She's very lovable.
She's lovable. She's amazing. You live with her, right? We live together, yeah.
Now drop the line at the end of that sentence right there. We live together for the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody see what I'm saying?
That would make sense. Doesn't really feel your girlfriend, Sarah Tiana. Right. Or your wife. She's not your wife.
No, she's not technically my wife.
So ask me who I live with. Go for it. Rich, beautiful home. Thank you. New home.
A couple years ago. For now, you've lived in your home. Three beautiful kids. Yeah. Who do you live with?
I live with my beautiful wife, Susie Schuster, mother of my children, and she's just been so great. Yeah, I live with my wife, Susie Schuster.
Now do it, the West. I live with my wife, a beautiful woman, mother, my children. I live with my wife, Susie Schuster, for the moment. Yeah. Doesn't really hear that last part.
Yeah, it's not the same. He said Jared Goff is the quarterback of the Rams. For the moment. Oof. Guess who's not going to be the quarterback of the Rams?
Well, no, we can't say this in a few moments. We can't say this. We can't say this. We can't say this. We don't know.
That's just, again, to use the phrase that. Bobby Conovalli, one of our favorite guests, a good friend of the program, good friend of mine. His nickname his fantasy team name is just a tip. And you know, and there's many different ways to use that phrase, but Um It's just the tip of the iceberg we're seeing here. I mean, Romo said it a bunch last night.
Oh, my gosh. Two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago. But honestly. It's just, you know, is there how much ice is there underneath?
Is this just something that Goff needs to be here? To light the fire? Right? I don't know. I'm not a cathologist.
I don't play one on TV. I know how much Wentz's contract is, and I know Goff's in that neighborhood. And I'm assuming it's structured in a similar way because it's such a large amount of money. And at some point, this is going to have to get paid out. And if you trade or you release somebody, it's something particularly significant.
And that's why the Eagles are now on a new head coach, it seems, because the new head coach. Is going to make the decision, according to the Eagles, that they were not allowing Doug Peterson to make and got him out of there three years after winning the Super Bowl. Again, that's just the tip of the iceberg there. And the Rams are handling this situation a little differently. Is your guy the quarterback?
He is our quarterback for the moment. And is that something Goff needs to hear? Have something lit, or are they really thinking about going somewhere else? And add that. to the fire.
that is already burning bright. in the NFL non-playing season hearth. Of Deshaun Watson's Texans situation. Matthew Stafford's Lions Situation. We haven't even.
Twitched in the direction. Of the Chicago Bears quarterback situation in quite some time. The Indianapolis Colts. have a quarterback spot that has been opened by the retirement of Phillip Rivers. We haven't even seen what we are expecting to happen: the Drew Brees retirement announcement in New Orleans.
That's all on that fire. in the NFL hearth. A word I've now used twice. in the span of two minutes. I rarely use it.
And then there is what Aaron Rogers has said. How much fuel is there to this? How much of a log is that to throw on this burning quarterback fire? I don't know. I don't know if he knows.
Our good buddy Pat McAfee apparently did not know Until The moment before Aaron Rodgers says, I'm calling in on my usual spot on his Tuesday show, that he was actually calling in on his Tuesday.
Okay, yeah. Because we were wondering that. Yesterday morning. I know.
Apparently, so was Pat. Uh and so you know That blew my setup. I was going to throw to the sound bite that it was on a TV show, radio show, but I've already just gone ahead and said it's the Pat McAfee show, which is on TV and radio. Yeah. So, um Patrick.
did get Aaron Rodgers on and A.J. Hawk and And the Pat and Aaron Rodgers. Triple screen that we've been seeing all year long with Aaron with his, I'm assuming that's his home with the beautiful stone. in the background. And Aaron um added a little bit more um perspective to his Very moving and emotional post-game press Zoom.
on Sunday after losing the NFC Championship game to To Tom Brady and him basically saying, I don't know what the future holds for me. And there was a lot of. What we were assuming was a problem all year long, and the fact that he brought it up. a couple of times talking about his future Being unknown, he doesn't know what's next for him and all that. Beautiful mystery, he said during the week last week.
So. Here's what Aaron Rodgers had to say yesterday. I don't feel like I said anything that I hadn't said before. You know, I said it the first time I talked to the media. Uh Just it was more a real realization, I think.
Uh That my ultimately my future is is not necessarily in in my control. And I think that was what just kind of hit me in the moment. I was thinking about, you know, Aaron Jones and Corey Lindsley and Other guys we have under contract, big dog, you know, guys who I don't know what their future is going to be, and myself included.
Now obviously after the season that I had and Um you know, potentially win an MVP. And you know, we obviously made it to another good run. I don't think that there's any reason why I wouldn't be back. But Look, I think there's there's not many absolutes that you guys know in this business.
So to to make an absolute statement about something that is is not an absolute. just I I didn't do it, you know, and I I guess that's why I went kinda Kind of nuts.
Okay. He didn't make an absolute statement, which is why people went kind of nuts. That is. Correct. That is correct.
Yeah, it is. And again, the fact that he brought his future up. It wasn't even in response to a question of his future, right? He was talking about and this is the You hear this all the time from players. And it's a fact.
It's a fact. When you lose a playoff game, certainly a game like this, and a game like this and a season that was going as well as Rogers personally and the team collectively You do look around the room and you know It's not going to be like this again. And The this is the group of the team that they invariably, like there's never been a 53-man roster that's been run back off 53 men. You know, like that's the draft comes, which we all know about with Green Bay, and then free agency comes, and retirements happen, and forced retirements happen, and players go and come and free agency, and you just look around, like, I thought this was it, this was it, I felt it in my bones, this was it, and it's not it. And it's so tough to swallow.
But then he threw himself on that. Then he said me included. That was the case.
Okay, that was it for me when I heard that. Me include, like, okay, that's the case.
Okay. This just got interesting. The the old Anchorman meme that escalated quickly, you know, like all of that. It's just, it definitely. is something that again will not mean he's He's not gonna.
Be the quarterback in 2021. You're already hearing that Rogers' agent is probably knocking on the door saying, Hey. Yeah. Three years left. There are places that make an exception.
for their star players to renegotiate with three years left. There are some places that want to make sure that they're You know Their player is all wrapped up and happy with three years left. It's a rarity, but it's happened. And two years is maybe a little bit more of a threshold that teams are comfortable renegotiating at and all that. But you're, you know, if.
This is going to happen. There will be a knock on the door. Certainly, if I was Aaron Rodgers, I would send my agent to the management team and say, A That's an MVP season. After all of this. 13 and 3, 13 and 3.
I want to keep going. I know you drafted the guy. I mean, Brady made this play with Garoppolo as much as nobody. really confirms what was going on in New England. Brady's at age 43, playing at a high level, getting there.
This kid is a spring chicken. He's no kid at how old he is, right?
So, if the Packers rebuff that, does that make things a little bit more awkward? Sure does. Sure does. Doesn't mean that 2021 is not happening in Green Bay. But what about 2022, right?
Food for thought.
So, I don't think, to bring it all full circle, that this is a log to be thrown on that fire that's burning right now, but it's something to keep an eye on. It's an ember. That's for sure. And then Don, can you put up the full sc the the uh the screen grab if you don't mind? This this this got me.
You want to talk about the difference between two shows on at the same time?
Okay. First of all, okay, I you know, we we have T shirts too, but we don't wear them on the air. Maybe we should. And this screen grab does not point out that sometimes Pat folds his arms underneath the biceps to make them a little bit more hockey. You know what I mean?
I think he does that. I think he does that. And then AJ Hawk, I've got a couple questions for him. First of all, you can't light up in here. It's indoors in Los Angeles.
I have a couple Cubans at home. I think it would be fine. But does anybody have a library full of books? That has nothing written on the spine of the books. Are those real books from A.J.
Hawk? None of the books, there's not a single book that has a spit. There's not a title on the spine of the book. Not a single one. I don't think they're spine up.
I think they're, we're looking at the pages, aren't they? They're not different. I'd be willing to bet that's a poster. Oh, yeah, that's not real. Those are not.
I think that's a fake action. Again, I don't mean I don't mean to call like this is not like one show calling out another. I get it. But it's like, you know. I might have to go on that show and ask AJ to take one of the books out and read it.
Please do. Just throwing it out there. Please do. Those are not real books. Let's take a break.
Arthur Smith is going to be on time here from the Atlanta Falcons, the HC of the Atlanta Falcons. Oh my gosh, he's on Coughlin time. He called in five minutes before his time. He did. Is this a Coughlin coach we got going on here?
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We're one big happy family, and he's the new head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. Joining me here on this Wednesday program, he's Arthur Smith. How are you, coach? I'm doing great, Rich. How you doing?
I'm doing fine. I noticed you called like we were expecting you at nine twenty or something.
So I'm I'm on Pacific, twelve twenty Eastern. We're a couple of minutes late for you. I apologize, but you are also a few minutes a few minutes early.
So do you have that Coughlin time? Thing going forward? I do not. I was just not trying not to waste your time, Rich. I was just trying to be on time.
I apologize if I'm wasting your time. You're not at all. Here's the story.
Okay, no good. Great. I appreciate that because I never know when coaches are being passive-aggressive with me, or that's just my own. I'm direct, Rich. I don't want to go passive.
All right, so then let's get right into it. Coach, when did the Falcons appear on your radar screen? When did that happen for you?
Well, yeah, right when our season ended, you know, we'd set up a A Zoom, you know, everything was kind of like, I was joking, it was kind of like speed dating. You had all these Zoom interviews where from I understand yours, Pat team may have flown in or. Right. that would have pulled me in. just to start the first interview.
So it was it was definitely interesting. Got to talk to a lot more people about doing the Zoom right after that Monday after our season ended.
So how because I know meetings pre pandemic would take hours and you know and obviously presentations that you would have already. Um, is that how long like what is an interview through a head coaching interview through Zoom? Like, it's a What is that like? Coaches. They were all different depending on the team and how they structured them.
I mean, most of them, they had an outline of questions they wanted to hit, and it just depended how many people were on the Zoom call. But the thing that probably helped the most is since March of last year. Everybody has adapted to Zoom. We certainly use it. I'm sure every NFL and college team in some way, shape, or form.
So it's pretty familiar with the format. It would have been a lot different if we'd done this a year ago and I didn't know what Zoom was, but.
Okay. And so who's your coaching influence? Who was that? I've had a lot of them. I've been very fortunate.
I was in Tennessee for a long time, was a part of a lot of different staffs. Certainly You know, coming from college, I was coached by a guy that had a lot of inadult ties, John Bunning. and John had been around, he'd been a Dick for Meal guy, you know. And he was influential to me at just teaching me his perspective of the NFL. And then I got to Washington, got to work for Joe Gibbs.
I stayed on through the Jim Jim Zorn. the transition. And then when I got to Tennessee, Mike Munchek and Ken Wisenhunt, Mike Malarkey, Mike Brabel, and then I'm leaving out a bunch of assistants, but. Yeah, I've been I've been fortunate. I've been on a lot of different staff.
So but you know, when uh when you I Have a guest on, and I'm uh it's the first time I'm interviewing you, and I kind of look up your history. There is a period in between the Washington time and then when you appeared at Ole Miss. What were you doing? Uh, were you still trying to stay in football? Were you I was, you know, I did in Washington, a big part of it was.
It had a great experience there. It was was trying to transition out of there and going somewhere. There was no influence of my father.
So that was really I was looking for another job. I had a great it's good when you get into those entry level, but really to make it on your own, you want to be somewhere to kind of separate yourself. Yeah, your dad is the founder of FedEx, right, Arthur? Correct. Okay, so you like things done overnight?
Is that basically the way you grow up? Or I mean, how does that...
Well, I mean, certainly learned a lot from them. It just depends what it is. I mean, I don't think, you know. I try not to be a snap judgment guy and try to think things through. But certainly Sped up the world, that's for sure.
No, I know. It must have been interesting working in FedEx field, too. Just all over the place. I don't know. You're making sure that the signs are all perfect as well as getting your job done.
So I got Arthur Smith here on the Rich Eisen show. And obviously, you know, you got your hands full coming from Tennessee with everything that you've done there. And now the concept would be to replicate your success there in Atlanta. How much of a conversation in your Zoom talking to Atlanta was the future of Matt Ryan and your plan? On that.
Well, it really helped all the guys on the roster. I mean, when you start over at a place, uh, There's obviously guys here that have been very successful that we're excited to work with. But There's a lot of different factors when you're going in. You know, each job different where you're at. I mean, this place, obviously, Matt Ryan's been here and he's had a lot of success as.
Kulo Jones has and a lot of other Players that have been here for a while. But you just got to take everything into consideration and know there's going to be changes as we go through the spring with Terry and I. Even in the summer. That Terry Fonteneau, the new general manager, brought over from the Saints organization.
So I'll just be more direct. What is Matt Ryan's future with your team?
Well, the same future with every other player on this team. And we're going to value whatever it is. We're excited about working with Matt, but I can't predict the future right now for you, Rich. But we got to get into it, Matt, and I'm giving an honest answer here. Terry and Roger, there's so much work to be done as you get through this roster.
And I guess the question about Matt has nothing to do with his bona fides as a Falcon or a quarterback who can win in the NFL. I don't think that's at all the case, but we have seen what you did with Ryan Tannehill just as a, for instance, and how dynamic his play was in your care, running as much as throwing. Many times you're on the goal line or in the red zone in the 10-yard line and in, and you got that battering ram and Derrick Henry, and sometimes you'd use Tannehill to run it, and that doesn't appear to be Ryan's game. Can Ryan work in your system, in your estimation? I want to adapt to the the strength of the of the players.
You know, and we'll see if we'll see if we'll break out some speed option with Matt. And he certainly did it in high school. Um but there's a lot of things in in in in being serious. I mean there's Things when I've taken this job, it's not like we're bringing Derrick Henry with us over here either.
So you've got to adapt to who you've got, you know, whether you've got more guys out there at receiver or tight end, a running back, you've got to be flexible.
So walk me through what it's like to call a play for Derrick Henry. Arthur. What a sound is pretty easy. When you get a guy that can take it 99 yards, 94 yards, which we've seen him do, it backed up. I'd like to sit there and say, Hey, that was a great play call, but then uh it's like watching a great home loan header.
Yeah. And then did you teach him how to stiff arm, Arthur? Or do you think that's really much innate with him? What do you think?
Well, there's something that Derek worked on, and certainly something that we emphasize. And Tony Dews, his running back coach, they worked on it a ton. Yeah, Derek's got a powerful stiff arm. I think, you know, sometimes during the years, you can see there are certain guys, the way they tackle, they're like, they just didn't want to be a meme. Be on the internet.
Unfortunately, they didn't want to be, but it's too bad sometimes you don't get what you want. I mean, my God, he is truly one of the more unique runners. And in your final regular season game of the year, it looked like he had, I mean, it's not looked like he definitely had an opportunity to set not only the single season record for most yards in a season, but single game record for most yards in a game. I mean, and again, I'm just wondering what it is like to be an offensive coordinator and a system and know that you have number 22 running, like, and how that actually made your job, what, easier or more fun? I'd love to give you the floor on that.
Yeah, it certainly was fun. I mean, obviously, you know, uh Just watching him in certain games that I'll always think back with great memories. Last year. in the New England game up in the playoffs. You know, it was it was like watching a a a boxer take over.
It was just over and over. And it really those guys up front, I mean, they were they were rolling out the ball and then derricking and it was it was fun to watch. I mean and in the playoff game against Baltimore and There's so many times during the years when he's changed the game. It's just different. When you got a guy, you know, you can call a run.
And he takes off and goes seventy-five plus. I mean, that certainly changed the Kansas City regular season game at nineteen. Um And there's this So many players you can think about, but it it's exciting when you know that every time you can hand the ball off, it could be a home run. Arthur Smith, few minutes left with the new head coach of the Atlanta Falcons here on the Rich Eisen show.
Okay, so what is the role of analytics? We hear so much. Honestly, sometimes I'm sitting there watching a game. I'm like, why are they going for two? Or why aren't they going for two?
Or fourth down, why aren't they going in here? And then you hear, well, that improves 10% chance of this, 5% chance less for that. How much is that a role in what you've presented to Arthur Blank and what you plan on also putting on the field for the Falcons, Coach? Yeah, it's all part of it. Part of the decision making.
I think the more information you can have, the better it is for you. And then you've got to make that call. And there's a lot of variables you've got to take in consideration, one way or the other.
Some people say, hey, I'm only going to trust my gut. Other people say, hey, I'm only going to trust the numbers. what the analytic data says, but I think you've got to it There's great tools, and then you got to make sure you have the right user using them. And that's what kind of presents, to make sure we have all the information. It is kind of ironic, you get to this point.
I wonder how many people can thank their jobs and really suit up titles to Billy Bean writing that book, because it seems like he's created a whole industry of. And inflated it with everybody using analytics, and some people don't even know what that means when they say it, but. No, so what does it I guess then what does it mean to you? For those who might need that sort of description, what does it mean? It depends on what you're using for terms of scouting, or you're turning on situational data.
It's just more information, and some are better than others. And every team that, you know, got some Some programs they use are people they hire, and I just think it's part of the decision making process. And so that's how we'll use it here. And then, obviously, many coaches who are in this league who played the sport. not many of them uh not many of them come from the line uh you were you played offensive line you were a guard and then uh you you you had some time on the defensive side of a line how how How do you think that gives you maybe a little bit of an advantage or a different perspective as being a head coach in the NFL?
Arthur? Yeah, it certainly gives you a different perspective. You know, I can't speak for other guys. I mean, there's been great coaches that have. Tell them the quarterback position, that seems usually a pretty fast track for play callers and and head coaches, but there's other guys that have done it from different spots.
Uh you know, obviously Braves, a guy, Mike Brabel, a guy that just worked for him. Mike was a defensive guy, but he could. Coach on any position on the field. He had a great mind for it. And then, you know, guys I've looked up to.
I don't know Andy Reid, but certainly. I've always looked up to him 'cause he was a lineman well. And so you see guys do it from other spots. Guys I learned from that did it from the tight end room. That certainly helped.
But yeah, you use all those experiences. They're valuable.
Okay. And so does that mean there's a little bit of Taylor LeWan in you, or you and Taylor Luan? What do you think?
I was just wondering, have you been on the bus yet? I have not, coach. And part of the reason why is I've called Taylor out for the bus not being able to actually run. You know, like, I told him once he has a motor in the bus and that he does actually put the bus on the road, that's when I'll show up. You know, I have a certain level and certain standard that I need to.
You know, normally I do make an exception for a Michigan man like Taylor. Right. Yeah. But I'm just shocked you haven't been on there yet.
Well, I mean, he's no, this is not, it's not anything. I've made my position known to him. I mean, he knows. And my favorite thing was also saying that he was the full host of it, ignoring Will Compton completely. That's one of my favorite other favorite things to do too.
That's just me. That's my own speed. Hey, Coach, thanks for joining. I appreciate this. Hopefully, this will be many different ways for us to communicate, and you be well.
Good luck to you. Thanks, Rich. You got it. I appreciate you having me on. You bet.
Look forward to talking to me. Right back at you. That's Arthur Smith. The Atlanta Falcons right here on the Rich Isaac Show. I'm just trying to sit here and think.
How many Atlanta Falcons head coaches have I interviewed? I'm sitting here and thinking.
Well, we can run it back.
Well, here's the thing is. I go back to Dan Reeves.
Okay. So look that one up. That's because Dan Reeves was in you remember the NFL network? Commercial Being Rich Doesn't Suck with the dear Mr. Fantasy music underneath it.
Yes. Which was a nice chunk of change that the NFL would spend on that. by giving traffic. Steve Winwood had a nice couple years of whatever residual check he got from that. Um Okay, so but Dan Reed, the Being Rich Doesn't Suck commercial was shot.
We shot. on location in Georgia at the Flowery Branch. Falcons facility. To the point where it wasn't just the shot of me sitting in the film room with Michael Vick and Dan Reeves. But Tori Holt, I was feeding footballs through a jugs machine to Tori Holt to catch.
That was shot there too. But Tori Holt could not. B Was not allowed in the Falcons facility. He had to stay in a trailer that was built just for him to stay in during the shot. Deep.
In a corner of the property was not allowed in the facility because the Rams and the Falcons, if I'm not mistaken, We're in the same division. We're in the same division. Or they had just gotten broken up. This was before the 2003 season. And in 2002 is when realignment happened and they still just they were just a You know, they were the greatest show on turf, one of the best teams in the league.
They had just broken up. They had just created the NFC South to separate the Rams. From the Falcons. And there was a rivalry and I remember Torrey Holt was not allowed in the facility. You're right.
2002 was the first year of the four divisions.
So at any rate, Dan Reeves was the first Falcons coach that I met in my capacity with NFL Network, and then Jim Moore was after him. Yeah, then Jim Moore was after him. And we were tight with Jim. And I guess I take it you didn't interview Bobby Petrino? Pig Suey, I did not get to before he hit the road.
That's correct. I never interviewed Bobby Petrino. And then Mike Smith was there for seven years, and then Dan Quinn. And of course, I interviewed Mike Smith, and I interviewed Dan Quinn.
So, this is the sixth Falcons head coach since I've started. How about that? Guess how many coaches there have been for the Steelers since I started? Two. Two.
Two. Cower showed up on the NFL network, on the NFL Network post-game show after Super Bowl XLX. How many in New England? Just the one, sir. Jets coaches in that space?
Oh, my God. About to say that.
Well, Herm was the first one when I got there. Herm was the guy when NFL Network started, so that was Dynamite. Yep. Can you name them? You probably know them.
So after Herm left. After Herm was Eric Mangenius. The Man Genius who I interviewed. Yeah. And then after the Man Genius left, and there was Rex.
And after Rex left, we had a nice. Nice cup of coffee with Todd Bowles. Yeah, four years for Todd Bowles.
Well, Todd Bowles is again like what you got, Herm was the fiery guy. And then we just had to go get something from the Belichick tree. And then after that, we had to go Rex, like it was the opposite of Mangini. And then the opposite of Rex is absolutely Todd Bowles. Who I remember seeing at the Super Bowl shook his hand, you know, and I shook his hand.
I'm like, you know, welcome. We need you. Gotta get you. Who is Adam Gace the opposite of? Oh my gosh.
We saw him at the Combine, right? Didn't we see him at the Combine at the Starbucks in the Add Hotel? At the Bucks. And he's one of those taller than you think, guys. He absolutely is on that list.
Adam Gace is on the list of taller than you think, guys. Adam Gace is like a good 6'2. He's like the Chris Mannix at coaching. Yeah. Nice.
Right? Also on the list, Daryl Maury, much taller than you think. Daryl Morey is much taller than you think. Elon Musk. Much taller than you think.
We did see him, right, in New York City. Yeah. With Mike Del Tufo is definitely not much taller than you.
Well, you know, it's much taller than you think. TJ Jefferson, all you got to do is look at the Rich Eisen Show's social media. I mean, YouTube page bar. Wait, is Bernie still on the show? Is Bernie still still on our YouTube header?
I think Bernie's still on our YouTube header, yeah. Which was great. I finally get on the YouTube header. I feel like mama, I made it. And then after one little Jewish guy, I get covered up by Bernie.
It's covered. Bernie's gone. Bernie's gone. Bernie's gone. No, you're.
You're back up there. Yeah. Well, Bernie covered you up, but he reported as eligible just for the week. He reported just for the week. You know, we gave him one of these.
You know, we gave him one of these. Bernie on your show. It's all good. It's all good. All right.
844204-H. We'll take a break. We'll take a phone call. Chris Brockman, I'd love to get to your poll question as well. Get it.
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That's O'ReillyAuto.com slash Eisen. This is the Rich Eisen Show. We're back here on the Rich Eisen Show. We just showed Kyler Murray appearing on our Super Bowl, the Atlanta Super Bowl. You know, between the Patriots and the Rams.
And he wasn't talking at all. And at the time, I'm sure he was trying to negotiate his out of his baseball contract so he could play football and he couldn't talk about any of it. And he was obligated to appear for Gatorade or he He felt obligated, or he wanted to make the appearances. It was a paying gig, and all of that. His dad was on the set.
He didn't answer anything. We had him. Throw. We had all the in-studio guests who were up for throwing. All the quarterbacks throw in a contest to throw it through.
You know. A rich eyes in Atlanta Target, and he threw seven through the hook. I mean, it was crazy. And I said to him, Because Kurt Warner was complaining about the footballs, they were all like sticky, non-NFL footballs that we had earlier in the week. He was the first to do it.
And after he complained about it, we got seven actual real NFL footballs and three, you know, if you will, to use Kurt's phrase, garbage ones. But. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't recall this other than just seeing this back for one of the first times. Where I said to him, to Kyler at the time, I said to him, Are these the first Duke balls?
Because that's the nickname of the NFL standard footballs, which is different than college footballs. Yeah, they're different. Are these the first Duke balls you've ever thrown? And he wouldn't even answer that. He was just like, So, is this a good time?
Now To point out that our first guest of next week's Super Bowl shows is Kyler Murray. Scheduled to appear. He's first up. We can talk about his NFL playing next time. You ask questions now.
The Hale Murray. Amazing. And all of that, his dynamic season. Him carrying all of our fantasy football teams this year. He was seven for 10 in that clip.
Yeah. Which was by far and away the best of anybody all week. He was 67% completion percentage this year.
So dead on. We were accurate. We were accurate. I mean, it was a crystal ball. It was kind of like when people say, I don't have a crystal ball.
Well, all you need to do is watch our show in the Super Bowl and see that he had the ability to. Although Del Tufo's big head that he was throwing at, I don't think creates the same amount of pressure as, say, an NFL. You don't know that. Oh, yeah. Put me in an audio room.
I'll scare guys. They won't even be able to mix. Put them in your mouth. In all seriousness, so you're in a booth with other people, right? How many other people are pre-pandemic?
How many other people are around? Depends on what you're doing. If I'm doing like boxing, I'm solo. Your biggest event, the biggest event. Super solo.
Are people nervous around you because of the game that you bring? Are you like Ray Lewis, where they're like, I need to make sure the buttons are being pushed properly, the faders are being moved properly because they don't want to let you down? You're a substitious person. What are you on Dion? When I mix big shows, it's insane.
What are you talking about? the s prep the things that I do. I'm crazy.
So, what is so okay? It's just, I'm a very I've done that since I was a kid. Even DJing. The fact that Chris is not looking up now means two things. One is that he knows what's coming.
Or two, he's looking at something that I don't even know what he's looking at. And I think it's the.
So he knows what's coming. Because we don't see we don't see Anything superstitious from you at all every day. No, this is seen as a matter of fact. You're just, you know what I mean? Like, we have not walked in.
Five-day-a-week show, Rich, is not the same as mixing the pregame for the Super Bowl. What are we? Schmuck Signal? What are you doing line? Are we schmucks on real?
This is like teasy. This is like, this is like practice. You do whatever you What are we talking about? No, you do it every day. You're like Bo Jackson.
What's a hobby? Is this a hobby? No, it's easy to do because you do it every day. When you do the one big show, you're the same way. Game day morning for the Super Bowl is not the same prep.
that you do for every game day you do every week. Hang on a second. I don't believe that. Hold on a second. There's no way.
Mike? I agree. Doing an eight and a half hour show is different from doing a three-hour show. Exactly. I totally understand.
But I bring my same level of expertise and preparedness. And so do I. But it's a different feeling when you do it all the time. This is like you do it all the time. It's like, it's like, it's like the Hoosiers, dude.
Just measure the rim. Call Dion. He'll agree with me. Measure your chair to the fader. It's the same thing.
Dion will agree with me. You know what I mean? Measure your finger to the button. It's the same thing. It's just a different thing.
It's a different broadcast. This comes like naturally because I do it so much. When you do the one-off big show, you're totally in a different world as a mixer. I'm telling you guys, that feeling you get in the stomach. It's like, I don't, I mean, again, I give 100%.
You know, you guys know me. I live what I do. And I take it really seriously. That's true. It's a point of utter.
One great mix is my license plate. I'm nuts. You guys know that. I'm freaking funny.
So much so, you haven't named your boat yet, have you? I don't know. But I'm saying, that's beside the fact that you know the way it is. But that's what I'm saying. When you have that level, you know the way it is.
You know, it's like you get like this, it's like you get used to things you do, the superstitions that you get into. Yes. I'm crazy like that when I do like. But you don't bring any of them to our show. How do you know that?
You guys have no idea. She sits next to you. I wear the same jacket everywhere. How do you know that this isn't a part of the superstition?
Well, because you don't wear it every day. You don't wear it every day. Oh, I'll bet $1,000. Check a day when I haven't worn this. Is that something to brag about?
No, it gets washed.
Okay. It gets washed, but that's a superstition I have. Excuse me. 100%. Hold on a second.
Shorts are a superstar. Question, question, question. Is that the only NFL Network Thursday Night Football Plus? This is the only one I have with this logo.
Okay. Swear to God on my life.
So that's a superstition that you bring. Shorts are a superstition I bring here. Yes. What happens to we retired? I retired some of your shorts.
You hung your shorts in the raft. What I'm saying, wearing shorts in general is because it wasn't pants every time he had them laid out on the ground before.
Well, Deion superstition, it was. I have that. I bet you have the same type of thing. No I don't. You don't have any before you do a big show.
No. I show up. Oh, I totally have. I do. Mike, I show up.
I got eight and a half hours to do in Tampa. Guess what? You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do the same thing I do every time. I'm going to go crush it.
I'm going to go kill it because I'll be prepared because I'm prepared for everything. Down to the things I, the way I get in the car. We get the car. I'm telling you, you guys. How do you call it?
There's like, I got to open up the passenger door, put my bag in the passenger door, go to the other side, open up the door, start the car. It's like there's certain things. There's a difference between superstition and OCD. Like, they're not the same. No, no, no.
It's superstition for me.
So you're consciously doing that. 100%. I didn't even know this about him. You didn't know it because he's making it up as he's going along. Like, that's why, like, it's hard to know something that never really happened.
I've had this forever. That's a good one, man. Forever. We love you. I used to wear the same shirt.
Yeah. for all of the Super Bowls. For NFL network. Like, I had a shirt. I'm like, you wear a vest sometimes.
You don't wear that jacket every night. I had a shirt that I wore every one. I'm telling you guys, I'm OCD superstitious. I wish this was eyes in the night because I'd have some swear words, right? It's all good.
You guys, if you don't feel it, you have no idea what it's like to be like this. And I mean, it's OCD and superstitious. And that's why Dion, when he says that, I'm like, I totally get why he did what he did. By the way, speaking of learning something you many people may not have known. If you have any question as to whether Arthur Smith loves coaching, if you have any question as to whether Arthur Smith loves the craft, if you have any question as to whether he's all in his dad created friggin' FedEx.
I mean, you want to talk about. You know How many coaches have strolled around for the Washington football team and what they used to be known? In the world's largest air bill, which is what FedEx Field really is. Like, if you've ever gone to FedEx Field, you don't really know until you get up close to the building which team's playing in the building. You would think it's like, okay, it's a huge stadium that's been built for the FedEx office pool flag football park.
You know what I mean? And he's strolling around there and oh yeah, that's my dad's company. We were literally saying that break. That tells you. And again, I don't know if it's a touchy subject for him because I kind of, you got it.
I looked over at you. You looked at me. No, when I said to him, I'm like, so you like things being done overnight. That was funny. You know, where you tell somebody, you give a member on your staff a task, you check the two-day box, and just like, we'll chat in a couple of days.
He might have had a summer job delivering packages. You guys don't know. True, that I was hoping you were going to ask him what can Brown do for you and he'd say nothing. No, he can't. Nothing at all.
Exactly. That's what I do. Can't do that. Won't do that. Won't have it.
Can't have it. Can't have it. Can't stop. Won't stop. Right?
Yeah. What an hour. I told you it was going to be loose. You had a feeling. Oh, wait till I tell you.
I have a story that I've been sitting on for a while, and today's going to be the day about watching movies with my kids. Oh, fuck.
Something happened.
Something happened that is really, it hit me and it hit me hard. Wait, did you finally get Miracle? Yeah, I got Miracle in. We got it. You got it in?
Okay, so save it. Save it. I want to hear Miracle. This is other than it was part of arm twisting the miracle. It took a couple movies to get to Miracle and Margaret.
One of the movies. Casey Afflecks won an Oscar. He's on Next Hour as well. He's got two movies to talk about. And.
He's, you know, Boston through and through. Kyle Brandt here as well on this very busy Wednesday.
