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Can you imagine there's an Italian person dubbing Charles Vader's point? No. Eyo, Solo Troi Parliament. Today's guests. Pro Football Hall of Fame and Shriney Jimmy Johnson.
New Orleans Saint Safety Malcolm Jenkins. Plus actor Rob Cordry. And now. It's your Rich Eisen. All right, everybody, welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show.
Here we are live from our Los Angeles studios. We are hanging out here on a Friday, the Wii is my man Chris Brockman across the way. Mike Del Tufo is doing something somewhere for somebody else today.
So he's out. Not us. Our man Feller is sitting in, and T.J. Jefferson, our social media grand maister extraordinaire, is sitting right down in his chair for a rich. And he's genuinely excited.
I don't know if anybody could tell because he's got his cowboys helmet and his cowboys flag, and he's just, it's like he's driving around stuck in 1995. Speaking of hot tub time machine, Rob Cordry's on in hour number three, and Jimmy Johnson is our first guest in about 18 minutes' time. Let's go.
Okay. Here's some stories about the good old days. Jimmy Johnson is going to be joining us on this program, Super Bowl 52. Five. One week from today is when both teams will be.
Well, One team doesn't have to arrive. They're already there. And then this is when the Chiefs will be arriving.
Next Friday is what I'm told. They're going to be, you know, it was funny. Earlier this week when we had Bruce Arians on the show, and I'm like, what an advantage for you to be spending all two weeks at home. You know, what an advantage for you that you've got the creature comforts of home. And that um uh you know you don't have to Bubble up as what we thought you would be doing, or you wouldn't have to go to a hotel in your hometown or whatever, but you just stay in.
You just stay where you are and you go to your facility, your actual facility. It's not someone else's facility. That's unbelievable. What an advantage for you. And then, you know, because he's been around the block a few times, I thought I was as well.
You know, his response essentially being, well, Rich, Chiefs are going to be staying at home too for much of the week. It's no big deal. They'll just treat this like a road game. They're just going to fly in on a Friday. That's basically what they're going to do.
Sounds great. Maybe they even fly in Saturday. I don't know. The NFL, it's one of those things where I don't know if the NFL will be like, you're really going to wait till the last second? You really are going to wait till the last day?
Maybe they will. I don't know. I don't know. And, you know, I've already spoken to some people in the NFL, and they think that. the way that everything's going down in the state of Florida.
that that this is going to be just like any old Super Bowl weekend. Chris, where it's just going to be. Party Central and you know and and I guess that Florida's different than County. But no, but it's a Tampa Super Bowl and people are going to be going out and I won't be.
So everyone understands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'll be uh I'll be stuck in my hotel room, which is just fine with me. Yeah, totally. But it's it's Super Bowl Sunday coming up next weekend, Super Bowl 55.
And in the meantime, what are we gonna do?
Well Right now, as we are talking, right now, as we are speaking, right here on NBC Sports on Peacock and this Rich Eisen Show Radio Affiliate or SiriusXM Channel 211. NBC Sports Audio. Nick Siriani is being introduced as the newest head coach of your Philadelphia Eagles. Hey, all right. Hey, Nick, what do you think of your quarterback situation?
Since we were told you were the guy that's going to be. Making this calm. And I'm assuming will Jeffrey Laurie be sitting up there? And so he's making the call, but why wasn't Peterson making was Peterson making the call? Is that why he's not here anymore?
Because there's been a lot of squaring of circles of what Jeffrey Laurie said publicly two weeks ago from a lot in the Philadelphia media. That's literally going down right now. Welcome to Coaching in the NFL, Nick Siriani. Never been in HC, the coordinator for Frank Reich in Indianapolis. Is Carson Wentz your guy?
What about Jalen Hurts? All of that's happening right now. And they might be able to just put it in a box. And say these are Evaluations that we're making, and what have you. And we'll just say, well, they're not saying anything concrete.
Or they'll say it's whence.
Sorry, Jalen. I don't know if they'll come out and say something specifically like that. But whatever it is, it's literally a walk in the park. It's a whistling. In the park, whistling in the wind, having a good time, being like that floating feather from Forest Gump.
compared to what's going to be going down in fifty-five minutes' time. which is the introductory press conference of the Texans' new head coach, David Culler. I feel for this guy. Again, man is a lifer, a football lifer, a five-year contract at age 65. He was selling something that Cal McNair and Nick Casario and Jack Easterby.
Bought.
Okay. Cully will be taking to the microphone in fifty-five minutes' time. Or I'm hoping it'll be Cal McC First, for his sake. and that he'll take all the questions. On Deshaun Watson.
Because, how in the world are you going to ask David Cully? Like, have you spoken to Deshaun? Did you reach out to him? Did he respond to you? What did he say?
When are you meeting with him? It could be, yeah, I'm going to meet with Deshaun later today, or yeah, I'm going to meet with Deshaun tomorrow, or yeah, yeah, I haven't heard back from him. When did he Uh when did he ask for his Trade. How long have you known? Did you know when you took the job?
Why did you take the job if there's no Deshaun Watson here? Are you hoping that he does stay? I mean, my God, I just came up with 12 questions off the top of my head. Like the dereliction of duty, if the owner doesn't come out first to answer questions, if that happens, it'll remind me. Remember when Tebow signed with the Jets?
And they just sent Tim out by himself?
Well, the reason why that happened. It's because it was the owner's meeting. But Rex wasn't even there. Because it was the owner's meeting.
So weird. That the coach and the owner were. At an actual league meeting, the annual league meeting where coaches and So maybe you wait till it's over? Right. And I do remember Tim Thibault's introductory press conference for somebody who wasn't going to be the quarterback was him just strolling out.
Yeah. And sitting in front of that step and repeat and having his own press conference there. I remember that. And it was weird. Oh my god, it was Tim Tebow there weird.
Ha.
So, I mean, for David Cully's sake, I hope the owner comes out first to take the question. Yeah, so what do you think? You know, let's go, David. What do you think? Uh and and w what's going on?
Is Easter bee gonna be there taking questions too? 'Cause that would be somethin'. What is it with this guy? Does he have pictures of somebody? You know what?
We should send, we should have, you know, if this wasn't a pandemic and, you know. I wasn't in charge of the budget. We would have sent you down to Houston. I would have to. To essentially.
Be there. Hey, Kyle McNair. To the press conference. Rich Eisen Show. Chris Brock with Rich Eisen Show.
My question is for you on Jack Easterby. What is it with this guy? Or, Jack, I've got a question for you, Rich Eisen Show, from Chris Brockman from Rich Eisen Show. What's the matter with you? What is it with you?
What do you have on this page? Are you? How did you get here? Why do you have so much influence? How have you survived all of this?
How did you valid questions? Nick Casario, Chris Brockman, rich eisen show right here. How did you get hired? You were not even on the list of guys that. Cal McNair, Cal, that's a question as well.
Was Nick on your list from the headhunting firm that. I mean, my gosh. How much did you pay the hunting firm to then hire a guy they did not recommend? Did you give Deshaun Watson an assurance that he would be. counseled before you hired Nick, who's sitting right next to you.
Yeah, exactly. Did you do that? Why did you, did you, did, did you ask him who he wanted as your. As the next head coach, did you give him that? Why is he so upset with you, do you think?
Is there any way that this can be reconciled? Is he your quarterback? Are you planning on having him there? What if they come up there and say he's our starting quarterback here in 2021? And we'll see him here if he's not here when he's not supposed to be.
We will take under advisement all that we are allowed to. Have? I mean, and they collect the target agreement of the NFL. I mean, if they say that, we will be monitoring Deshaun's social media. Honestly, like, and David, Cully, like.
What's your relationship with A.J. McCarron? Because that's the guy that's apparently going to be your starter. Unless you trade Deshaun. Like how many hey, Nick, have you gotten any phone calls on Deshaun?
Nick, how many are you taking calls on Deshaun Watson? You had to hire an assistant. Nick, have you called Deshaun Watson? Have you spoken with Deshaun? When was the last time you spoke with And by the way, none of these questions.
That we have just come up with that are all valid questions. I don't know if some of them are going to be at. Pose in the way of, like, what's the matter with you, Jack? John McClain would probably do it. You literally just turned into David Byrne and made that whole thing a talking head song.
Like, this is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife. How did I get here? All these questions. With the exception is that my clothes are not ill-fitting.
You know, but so for me. For me, you know The crazy thing about all these questions that I just said. Um None of them have to do with David Cully's coaching acumen or plan. or anything. N that none of them have to do with why David Cully was hired.
Right. You know, like none of them have to do and and What's your scheme, Coach? One can only imagine. We all have, you know, egos. We all have egos.
One can only imagine that you think that when you're unveiled as the new head coach of a team, it's about. you know, what you're Philosophy is and why you were the choice of the team. And by the way, that's the way the press conference will begin. You know, with I'm assuming the owner and general manager and Cully out there, and it will be all about David. Like, you know, when we first met David, he was X, Y, and Z, and we were immediately impressed.
And even though we then gave a million other interviews to other people, like Josh McCown, That's another question. Why'd you give Josh McCown an interview? Did you really consider him? I mean, at any rate, so so on and so forth. We felt like he was a perfect fit for us and all of that.
They can go that and then Nick might say something, the general manager, and then Cully says something. And then time for questions. And then everything that they've just said will be thoroughly ignored by the rest of the media. And then here we go. And by the way, apparently, did you see who he's going to hire as his defensive coordinator?
Lovey. Oh, really? Lovey Smith is going to be the defensive coordinator. And any Bears fan will tell you. Yeah.
Yeah. And any, and any Rams fan will tell you too, Marshall. always spoke very highly of Lovey Smith. He was on the stage.
So you're telling me there's a chance? No, I'm not. Yeah. No chance for you. No, I don't, like I said yesterday, J.J.
Watt has every reason to sit there and say, what about me? Yeah, absolutely. And every reason to sit there and say, you know, I put my heart and soul in here, too. And If you're starting from scratch, look, look at me, man. I finally played some seasons where I haven't gotten hurt.
Catastrophically, by the way. Like the guy never just has a, you know. Sprained ankle. Right. He's the guy who's basically always fighting back and always putting it out on the line, blood, sweat, and tears.
And if this guy has two, three years left, obviously this isn't the spot to try and. Win a Super Bowl over the next two, three years. This window is about maybe three, year four of the David Culley era with a new quarterback. 'Cause this ain't putting be this Humpty Dumpty's not going back together. Oh my gosh, this is all planned out in 45 minutes.
If I wasn't only interviewing Malcolm Jenkins at the time, I'd have to watch it. But Malcolm Jenkins is on this show as well, and he's the only human being on planet Earth who's beaten Tom Brady in the Super Bowl not once but twice. For two different teams. Eli, as we know, is a guy who's gotten him twice. A couple of those Giants were in both of those teams twice, but.
He's the only guy who beat him in the Saints in 2009. Actually, pardon me. He's a guy, this is correct. He's a guy who got Peyton Manning and Brady. He's the only guy on planet Earth who's beaten Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
That's the correct stack in the Super Bowl. He beat Peyton Manning in 2009 and Brady with Foles and Company. Oh. I wonder what Heath's thinking about what's going on in Philadelphia. My gosh, lots to talk about on this show.
Do you have a poll question over there, Chris? You know, I've been kind of. That's a no.
Okay. So he's going to be pardoning. Not a no. I've been trying to like workshop one. It's Tom Sellek's birthday today.
Hey.
So I was thinking best sports mustache. going that kind of the funny way and then I was also trying to come up with a With a quarterback one, since we're talking so much about quarterbacks, like which of these veteran guys available would you most want for next year? But then I was like, why don't we just go for it? Like, what's the best Super Bowl quarterback matchup ever?
Okay. Randy Mahomes, we're going right now. This one that's happening right now. Recent. Recent, and then I'm trying to.
I was just looking at a list of the Super Bowls to try to come up with the well. How about Matt Peyton Breeze? That's great. Love it. Right.
M m Marino and Montana. Montana and Elway and Favre. But that's pretty recent. It's the you know, that's the last Starbuck Brand Bradshaw. Starback Bradshaw, you want us to something from back in that day?
Who do we take off there? Maybe Mahomes and Brady, since it hasn't happened. Yeah, there you go.
Okay, great. Yes, you take this one currently off. Yeah. Right? Or do you leave that one on, and you're saying this one is a good one?
I think we're assuming that this one's not a good idea. Don't you think recency bias is going to click on that anymore? Yeah, for sure. Really? Yeah.
But this matchup hasn't technically happened yet. I mean, the game could be an absolute dud, I guess. Anything is possible. That's possible.
Alright, so Merino versus Montana. Going to Bradshaw. Bradshaw, historically, not a great quarterback. He won games. You know, I'm going to have to disagree with that.
I was watching something the other day. I think Terry gets a. bum wrap a little bit, but It gets a bum rap howl. Yeah. Well, because the dude's won four Super Bowls.
Right. And yet you never hear Terry Bradshaw's name listed amongst the greatest quarterbacks.
Well, first of all, I think part of the reason for that is he won four in the first 10 years. It's been 40 years since he's won a Super Bowl. And as you know, there's a lot of... That's not the greatest defense of all time. No, it's not just.
Yes, there was that too. The team was awesome, right? It's been 40 years. But in the same way that when Madden went in the Hall of Fame, there had to have been. There was when John Madden got named to go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, there was a whole generation of people saying, wait a minute, he's not there yet?
How's that possible? And the reason why that was is because I remembered him as one of the greatest coaches of his time. But there is a whole generation that's like, wait a minute. Is he going in because of the video game? I'm serious.
Like, people knew him as the broadcaster video game guy. Everyone knows Terry as the guy who is, you know, joshing around on NFL on Fox, and a whole bunch of people also know him from Cannonball Run and what have you. There's so many different things that he's done. I mean, by the end of the day, there will be a generation of people who go, wait, Strahan played football? For sure.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think, Bratch, there's a lot going on there. Also, when you look at his numbers, just specifically, not great. Don't do the number of things. Only two more touchdowns than interceptions, 52% career competition. But we put such a premium on winning championships.
But the numbers, you cannot compare the current day's numbers to the Hall of Fame. No, I understand, but you can compare interception to touchdown.
Well, I mean, the number of people that are going to be like, well, Phillip, how's Phillips going to get in the Hall of Fame just because Dan Fouts is in the Hall of Fame? Dan's numbers can't, Fouts' numbers can't even compare to Phillips.
Well, when Fouts retired, those numbers looked like Phillip Rivers' numbers compared to what was Fouts' generation. Namath, I mean, the number of people that come up to me and say Namath shouldn't be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Look at his numbers. It drives me freaking nuts. Don't.
Open your mouth. Don't open your mouth. I mean, this thing works, right? Can I rebut you? You cannot tell the story.
A football without Joey Lee. Got you there, Chris. And I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. You cannot do everything that everybody hopes this Super Bowl in the state of Florida will be.
I get it. Everybody's hoping it is just like the first Super Bowl ever in the state of Florida. when nameth shock the world. Said he was going to do it. And Musberger's sitting there pulling aside.
Okay, that's the greatest funny thing, right? It's the greatest. And the Jets got him in the AFL first. He signed with the merger happens because of Joe Namath. He's a very important figure in history.
Correct. and then he wins the Super Bowl. Joe Flacco. Stop it. Oh, my God.
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get us off. I was watching this documentary on the Steelers DB episode. 844-204 Rich is the number to dial. When we come back, the one and only great Jimmy Johnson here on The Rich Eisen Show with Malcolm Jenkins and the funny Rob Cordry still to come on a high-register Friday.
So, you know, we love talking movies around here. You know, we love talking comedy around here. We also love talking about classics around here.
So, you know what I'm all about. That said, All of that said. You know how I must have felt when I was sitting in the movie theater like I was the other day watching the previews, and up came a preview. for the naked gun. with Liam Neeson as Frank Greben, junior.
That Preview had me at hello. I loved police squad back in the day. I loved the naked gun back in the day. And here comes the naked gun once again with yes, Liam Neeson as Frank Drebbin Jr. Come on now, son of the celebrated police squad, Lieutenant Frank Drebbin from the original movie, Paul Walter Hauser's in this movie, also Pamela Anderson.
Guess who also makes an appearance? WWE superstar. Cody Rhodes, and the producer of the movie is Seth McFarlane, the creator of The Family Guy. Come on now. This is going to be so much fun.
I'm excited to see The Naked Gun in theaters on August 1st.
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Not available in all states. We sent you this uh song that we Kind of created based off of Nick Sabin. He stepped to the podium. This is, when was this November, December? Chris is right around there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, early November. He steps to the podium and he starts talking about how somebody you strolled past coming to the podium, they just had torn-up jeans, ripped-up jeans, holes in them. And I heard it and I said, you know what? If we set that to music, it sounds like a country music song. We figured, you know what, since you are an award winner, you are.
As good as they come, man. You are, Trace. Don't worry. You're so humble. Let me talk about that.
So we figured, we wrote the lyrics out. We wrote his soliloquy out for you, right? Do we have the lyrics there?
Okay, he got right there. And. But no, no, no. Set it up however you wish. You got your own.
Way of doing it. Here we go. Trace Atkins, everyone on the Rich Osin Show, doing Nick Sabin's How Did We Get Here. I guess I just want to know how we got here. Not to offend anybody out there.
But I just walked by some Yeah. James War out. with holes in them all cut up. I just remember when I was a kid in West Virginia, I was ashamed to go to school because my jeans were wore out. Only because we didn't have any better.
Now they buy them that way, and I just want to know. How did we get here? Tell me how did we get here? Don't understand these kids these days. Yes, I never will.
Somebody please. Please tell me. How did we get here people? How did we get here? Is that I tell you?
Somebody just, my manager just a few minutes ago showed me the new laminate that we have for our tour this year. Because we were trying, we were, we didn't know what we were gonna call this tour this year.
So I hope there's no copyright infringement. My tour this year is going to be the how did we get here tour. How cool was that, right? Way back in the day? Fun stuff.
That was born out of a Nick Sabin press conference where he just went off about some kid came up to him with the torn-up jeans, holes in him. Holes in them. And I go, How did we get here? And I said, that sounds like a country music song. And then Trace Atkins actually did it and then named his tour off of that.
Super funny. We're influencers. Not just because we have 231,000 YouTube subscribers. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204 Rich is the number to dollar. All right, T.J.
Jefferson is very excited, so let's get right to him, right? Chris Brockman? Yeah, let's do it. Is the man on the phone? Yes, he is.
He is a two-time Super Bowl champion head coach from back in his day with the Dallas Cowboys.
Now he is, as we all know, with the NFL on Fox. Joining us, care of his friends at Michelob Ultra, is Jimmy Johnson. How are you, coach? Bridge, I'm doing great. Excellent.
We're coming to the state of Florida, Jimmy. We're coming. I know you're South Florida. This is Tampa. We're coming.
We're coming for Super Bowl 55. I can't wait. I wonder how you're. Sussing out this matchup here, just uh a couple of days uh removed from us coming. Yeah, Rich, I I would have never guessed that I you know might even consider going up against Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes But I tell you, this Buccaneer team, you know, they're going to get probably Antonio Brown back.
That'll help. On top of that, Todd Bowles has done such a great job with that defense. And now, with the Chiefs having some problem at offensive tackle with the injuries at Fisher, this is going to be a heck of a ballgame. I don't know that I could pick a team. It would be a coin toss, you know, as far as who's going to win this thing.
But I hope I see 38 to 36.
Well, you know what? I'll tell you this, Jimmy. We've never seen anybody like Brady. And if there's anybody that could start the conversation of saying, well, You might see somebody similar to him by the end of my run. It would be Mahomes.
I'm wondering what you do think of Tom Brady and what we're seeing, and how you can compute it compared to all the football you've seen in your life. In my mind, there's no question about either one of them. I think Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback that's ever played because of his record. nobody's come close as far as the Super Bowls and the playoff wins. Having said that, I think Patrick Mahomes is the most talented quarterback I've ever seen.
Maybe even more so than John Elway. Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw. Patrick Mahomes is, I mean, when we did the Super Bowl last year, and studying him It's just unbelievable the things that he can do. He protects the football. He makes fantastic throws.
He's mobile. He has great vision. He can see and he throws a great deep ball. Uh, he is just so extremely talented, and he's 25 years old, Jimmy. I mean, it's kind of insane when you think about it.
I mean, he's in his second Super Bowl, he just went to his third straight AFC championship game. He could go back-to-back and arrive as a back-to-back champion quarterback a year earlier in his career than Brady did. That's the whole thing about this game is, yeah, we might be talking about it decades from now. Like, this is when Brady and Mahomes went against each other. But we could also say if Mahomes comes just oh, so close to Brady by the end of his career, this is the reason why he didn't catch him is because Brady got him in Super Bowl 55.
It really is insane when you uh, when you just put it all out on the table like that, Jimmy, you know, I just don't see anybody catching Brady, including Mahomes.
Now I talked to Brett Beach about this here in the offseason. You know, the biggest thing is keeping that supporting cash. And I think they did a great job. You know, I know that some players did some team-friendly contracts. to try to stay together, but it's going to be really difficult for them to keep that team together with free agency.
And so, you know, that's the whole key. I mean, I don't care how talented the quarterback is, how great he is. If he doesn't have the supporting cast, Uh then he's going to struggle. Um You know, Tom Brady, all of a sudden he was rejuvenated, but it sure helps having that defense that Todd Bowles has put together or with. Evans with you know all the good receivers that they have, Gonkowski.
So, you got to have the supporting cast. I don't care how good you are. Jimmy Johnson here on The Rich Eisen Show.
So, with Deshaun Watson having requested a trade in Houston. And Houston introducing their new head coach, David Culley, today. There's obviously a situation, to use the phrase, that the Texans need to figure out with Watson. And the name that we keep hearing over and over and over again, if the Texans do eventually give Watson, the exit visas he's asking for, and how much of a haul they could get. Herschel Walker is the name we keep hearing over and over and over again.
What would you cancel, Houston? To do, obviously, being somebody who knows what a franchise quarterback can do to change things around, but also knows how one particular trade with a huge haul can change things around as well. What would you counsel? Jimmy.
Well, first of all, trades are so difficult with the salary cap and with the compensation and You know, what it's gonna do contract-wise, you know, as far as what's in contract. But the number one thing I would do, if I was David College, is I'd go knock on his door. Uh I'd say Nashaun, let's have a mechalobe ultra and let's talk about this thing because we can work it out somehow, some way. I mean, you know, I had a similar situation. You know, when I had Troy Aikman and I drafted Steve Walsh, well, That caused some tension between me and Troy.
Well, Steve Walsh was there just for one reason, so I could trade him later for a one, two, and a three to New Orleans. But until I got rid of him, I mean, you know, Troy wasn't real happy with me drafting my quarterback from Miami there. And so I went to Troy's home. I knocked on his door. We talked about things.
And I set up a tropical fish tank, and we bonded, and so we worked it out.
So, if I was David Cully, I'd do whatever. I would put my ego aside and I'd say, hey, Deshaun, let's Let's work this thing out. We can be great right here with the Texans.
So, just putting it all together, are you suggesting David Culley go shop for a tropical fish tank and bring it to Deshaun Watson's house? Is that what you're saying, Jimmy? Have a Michelo Ultra and a tropical fish tank, and the deal is fine. What do you mean by a tropical fish tank? Did you really bring something?
What do you mean by that? Oh, yeah, no, I was into tropical fish. I've always been into tropical fish, and Troy was kind of infatuated with him. One time he said, Hey, I might set up a tank.
Well, it gave me a good excuse. To go spend time with him. And I went one Sunday over to his home in the offseason after that first year. And after I traded Walsh away. And we spent the entire day together.
And we went and shopped, and we set up his tank and I put some fish in there. And it gave us a kind of an excuse for a conversation from then on. It bonded us, and obviously it was a lot more than just a tropical fish. But it gave us an excuse to spend time with each other. and to kind of soothe out any tension that he had.
Because the Walsh thing. You know, when I had Walsh and Eggman, I couldn't play favoritism because that would diminish the trade value for Walsh. I couldn't come right out and say, hey, Troy's our guy forever and ever. you know, because I wanted to trade Steve Walsh and try to get as much as I could for him. But it was a little bit of tension until I worked it out with the tropical fish.
Isn't it amazing Jimmy Johnson here a few more minutes? Again, we'll talk Michelobultra a little bit more in a second. Isn't it amazing how it's decades later, and it's still the same stories with quarterbacks who have their. A potential job threatened, even if it's not being threatened, like you're just describing, but. Organizations have to have a public face and maybe a private face.
And Aaron Rodgers bringing up his future as soon as the game's over after a season in which he said it really wasn't much of a thought process. It's amazing how things don't change. And that seems to be something that is playing out in Green Bay. Right now. Yeah, it's crazy.
When they drafted Jordan Love, I thought it was a good pick. He's a very talented quarterback for the future. You know, but that's should not threatening. Aaron Rodgers, you know, he he's his I mean, he's a Hall of Fame great quarterback, and playing as well as any quarterback in the league.
So it wasn't, you know, they weren't threatening him. They were just looking at the future and something for their team. I understand it. Bill Belichick and I talked about this. I said, you know.
I said, Bill, I said, we both know in the old days, you know, when you could have a game manager and run the football and play defense, that's over with. with the real changes opening up the passing game, If you're going to win a championship, you have to have a franchise quarterback. And I said, you know what, as important as that franchise quarterback is, You know the second most important player on your team? Is your backup quarterback? Because if you don't have a quarterback, you have no shot to win in this league.
And quarterbacks are just so valuable I think some of them are seeing how valuable they are now, and that's why they're saying, hey, I want to go to another team.
Well, I'm not a betting man, but I'm going to make a bet that that conversation with Belichick was on a boat with you. Is that a true story? Is that a safe assumption? Safe bet? With a cold beverage.
What do you think the Cowboys should do with Dak? Jimmy, what do you think? I mean you're they should have given in to the four-year deal. uh last year would have saved them some money. They wanted five years.
But they got to get him signed. And not only Is he an outstanding quarterback? He's not Patrick Mahomes. Oh. But He is an outstanding quarterback and On top of that, he is a great leader.
leader for that football team.
So they need to get him signed. And the other thing is Until you find somebody better, you don't ever give up a quarterback. Ever. I mean, that's just a fact, Jimmy. I mean, you're, you're not, you're, and he's a special kid, too.
And, and, and I don't know. You know how much better you can get in the NFL. I mean, he was on pace when his leg unfortunately snapped like that to lead the league in passing. Both tech quarterbacks in the state of Texas could have been 1-2, he and Watson by the end of the year. But I think Watson would have been looking up at him the way that Dallas was having to play and outscore.
everybody on offense, you know? Yeah, Richie, they should have signed him three years ago. They should have signed him two years ago. They should have signed him last offseason. And every time they did not sign him, the price just kept going up.
But they need to get it done.
So let's talk about Michelob Ultra. They pre-released a Super Bowl commercial that asks an interesting question: Are you happy because you win, or do you win because you're happy? Jimmy, is that what you're here to talk about? Commercial because it got me to thinking. You know, as a coach, Uh I know I was a lot better coach.
You know, when I was upbeat and positive and happy. A lot better coach. And uh and so it really is a cool commercial. I like it. And on top of that, the 95 calories and 2.6 carbs that keeps me slim and trim and active and healthy.
So, you were a better coach when happy? Is that what you're saying? That's somehow. And you know what made me happy? It's winning games.
I bet. What's your favorite? I've got to get your favorite Michael Irvin story. Jimmy.
Give it to me. Cough it up, please. Give me your best one. Freshman year at University of Miami. They c they call and they say, Coach.
Uh Freshman receiver Michael Irving got into a big fight. And he got into a fight with a 270-pound, 260-pound offensive guard, a senior. I said, Oh, and and Michael won. They're in the dining hall. I called Michael and I said, Michael, what in the world are you doing?
I said, you know, I said, first of all, you're fighting a big old offensive guard, you know. outweighs you by 70 pounds. I said, you know, he's a senior. I said, you know, what what in the world happened? He's a coach.
Yeah. He said, you know, I was in line, you know, in the dining hall And just because he's a senior, he broke in front of the line to me. He says, Listen, he said, I got a huge family. I've been fighting for chicken my entire life. He said, I wouldn't go let that guy get in front of me.
I said, oh me. Oh, but Michael is special. He was obviously one of my favorites of all time. Uh I mean he's family to me. Every time I see him, he puts that big old smile on his face, we hug each other.
Great, great memories of Michael Irvin. Oh, Jimmy, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that his thoughts on making sure when the buffet is prepared, this is prepandemic, and we're in a room for a meeting. There's all it's always a two-plate situation for Michael, and he says the same thing. He's one of a million kids, and the food on his food is his food. And he'll just, I mean, it's the same thing.
It's the same thing now they need to do his 50s. It has not changed for the kid from St. Thomas Aquinas.
Now, he has told us some stories that you, on occasion, Jimmy, would. Would cut somebody if they're asleep in a meeting, if they were sort of like the 53rd man on the roster, but somebody with a lot of Pro Bowl ability might get a nudge to be awakened on time for the meeting. Jimmy, did you ever do something like that? In a heartbeat, before every year, I'd go in in a meeting, I'd say, listen, everybody here. You're all on a scale.
The harder you work, the more you do what I ask you to do, the more you meet the rules and regulations. The better player you are. the higher you are up on the scale. If you don't do those things, then you're not a good player. You've got no margin of error.
You're at the bottom of the scale.
So I did cut one guy because he's sleeping. He's a backup guard, been late to a bunch of meetings. You know, with Troy or Michael, I would have told them, hey, wake up. Yeah. Cool.
Yeah. Confirmed by Jimmy Johnson. I'm gonna tell him to be on time. If a guy hadn't sold me anything, I'm going to say, hey, get you another job. It's like the steak knives, right?
The steak knives and the watch for the Glen Gary leads with Jimmy Johnson. Hey, Jimmy, thanks for the call here. Love our chats whenever you come on. Great to hear from you. I assume your Hall of Fame speech is all prepared because, you know, we're waiting for your day to finally hit, and I can't wait for that pandemic to clear for you to get your day in Canton, Jimmy.
Well, I appreciate it, Richie. It will be the shortest speech. The only thing I'm going to do is, I'm going to thank all the great players and the great coaches that helped me get there. That's it.
Okay, so can I count you in for that? Because I'm the one sitting on the set hoping for somebody's done after 10 minutes. Can I count you in for just a 10-minute one? That's it? You mark it down.
It will be very brief.
Okay, mark it down. Jimmy, thanks for the call. Michelob Ultra, everybody, check out the pre-release Super Bowl commercial that's out right now. Jimmy Johnson from the NFL on Fox and Hall of Fame here on the Rich Islands Show. Yeah.
Uh Do you think Christopher Heart of Hearts Jimmy Johnson got my Glenn Gary Glenn Ross reference at all? No. Okay. Do you think that, in fact, he and Bill Belichick had that conversation on a boat? Absolutely.
Okay. And how excited. I mean, I could just see right there. The old school cowboy fan came out me right there. It was the best days of my life.
The days of the Jimmy Johnson. If only those two, if only him and Jerry could have just. Put those differences in. There's that too, and also they were the last team prior to free agency. Come on.
Don't forget that's when, you know, right before Reggie White went on his free agency tour and changed everything by saying, I'll go to Green Bay, and then the new collective bargaining agreement eventually hit. And, you know, salary caps and things like that came into being. He didn't have to worry about that when he struck that deal for. Herschel Walker. Yeah, true.
None of that stuff was. Look at that picture right there. I mean, th those are the you could put those two busts in the same way looking at each other one day. I will always contend had he not gone, we went four in a row. And then well, I think they'll they'd all contend that.
Yeah. But I was there in the building in Candlestick when they lost to San Francisco in the NFC Championship game, and they knew that that was the Super Bowl. although I don't know if anybody really thought that Stan Humphreys and the Chargers would be the one to make it. eventually and that they were just a mere speed bump for the 49ers. The Cowboys would have won that game handily, easily.
And I think, if I'm not mistaken, that Switzer did have a 15-yard penalty called on him on the bench in that game that was a little bit costly. I was there as a cub reporter for, if you will, for Redding California. Yeah, I covered that game. I was there with my three-quarter inch camera. And my tripod ready to do the post-game press conference, and I was shooting the footage from underneath the.
The goalpost when Steve Young, if you remember, he did like a victory lap around there. He came running right past me. Came running right past me, and then I went to the interview room in the bowels of Candlestick to get set to record all that stuff. And somebody took my big, huge, thick coaxial cable that attached the camera to the deck, disappeared. I have no idea where it went, and I got nothing.
I went all the way to Candlestick and got no post-game sound at all. Oh. And then remarkably, I was on ESPN a year later. I mean, things were just totally crazy back then, but I was at that game. I don't know if Switzer was a reason why they lost that game, but But at any rate Good old memories with Jimmy Johnson right there.
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You have two dogs, two dogs, yes.
Okay. Billie Jean and Bob Costas.
Okay, now let's walk us through them.
So I grew up with all rescue dogs. We were just talking about that. And coincidentally, they all had B names when we adopted them. And so when Andy and I got our first dog, we wanted to give her a B name. And so, of course, we are huge fans of Billie Jean, and Andy adores her and knows her personally.
So we named our dog naturally after Billie Jean. When we got our second dog, we just loved Billie and Bob, the idea of two dogs being Billie and Bob. And so we tried to think of like a tennis Bob, you know, and we thought of an Olympics Bob, Bob Costas.
Well, you've never met Bob? No, I have not.
Okay, is the actual real live Bob Costas on the line here on the Rich Eyes and Joe? Yes, he is. Are you there, Bob? Yes, and I'm just calling to check on my namesake. Hello, Brooklyn, but really I'm more concerned with how my namesake is doing.
Hi, Bob Costas. We've never spoken before. No, no, we haven't. And somehow you've managed, I'm sure, to house train and take care of Bob Costas. And the canine Bob Costas is thriving, I trust.
Yeah. He has his good days and his bad days. House Trained is generous. You know, he occasionally leaves us a present on the couch. I hope you don't do the same.
And he just got out of his cone last week.
So, no, we are not doing a great job raising our Bob Costas. But he. is a wonderful, lovely fellow, I'm sure much like yourself. And you know, much like myself, he has his good days and his bad days. And, you know, Rich, now that I'm no longer doing the Olympics, I'm not going to do the Super Bowl, this may be my single best ongoing claim to fame.
Andy and Andy and Brooklyn have a pup named after me.
Well, were you aware of Bob, of the dog being named Bob Costas? The first time I became aware was when Brooklyn was a guest on the tonight show and Jay Leno was still hosting. And she dropped this bit of info on a breathless public, and I happened to be watching. Come on. I had no idea.
That's so funny.
Sorry. Are you offended or are you flattered? Because it can go both ways. I mean, English bulldogs are not attractive dogs. It's okay.
It may help my street credit in some small way. I'll have to say what I can get. I think they are beautiful, beautiful dogs, if that makes you feel any better. Beautiful dogs. They are.
They are beautiful dogs. They don't seem like a perfect physical representation of me, but I'll take what else you want to offer. It's all good. And Bob Costas, I can only call you by your first and last name now.
So if we meet in person, it will be hello, Bob Costas. You must know that. I'm ready for it. Thank you, Brooklyn Decker.
Well, I would say, Bob Costas, stay, but we're out of time, Bob.
Well, thank you, Rich Eisen. The one and only Bob Costas. PeacockTV.com is how you can get peacock. Many people who are, I guess, everybody who's watching this right now already have that. But anyway, youtube.com/slash Rich Eisen Show is another way for you to keep up to speed with this particular program.
844-204-Rich is the number to dial. We are right here on the Rich Eisen Show, back here with our radio fans and network. And, you know, back in the day, TJ Jefferson was talking about in the commercial break. You were that Cowboy fan that Stephen A. Smith despises.
Early the mid-90s when the Cowboys were winning titles, and I was living in Pittsburgh. Yes.
So amongst all Steeler fans, you couldn't tell me nothing.
So then 25 years of disappointment have humbled you. A quarter century of humbling. I mean, a little bit. Like, I'll still let it out if you want me to. No, I know.
You try to be humble. But you don't come in here and say that the Dallas Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl in 2021. You don't do that. I mean, I would say it, but would I mean it? I don't know about that.
Yeah. TJ moving on up. Jefferson, yeah, ladies and gentlemen. That was the Chris Berman nickname he got this year. There we go.
That's my favorite. 844-204-Rich. Number 1. Let's take some calls. Chris in Athens, Georgia.
You're here on this Friday before Super Bowl Week, edition of the Rich Haisen Show. What's up, Chris?
Well, I was just thinking if the Buccaneers pull it off a week from Sunday, they'll become the first wildcard team. to win three road games. And earlier this week, the Oakland Raiders celebrated the 40th anniversary of becoming the first wildcard team. to to win a Super Bowl. But, um Uh what I thought was interesting about that is uh Jimmy was just talking about backup quarterback, week five.
Plunkett comes in because Dan Pastorini broke his leg. And then in the wildcard round, the Raiders face the Ken Stabler, Jack Tatum, Dave Casper, Houston Oilers. And one more factoid, and then I'll go. Dave Casper was traded mid-season for a first and two seconds. And one of those seconds was used in eighty one to draft Howie Long.
So just some crazy trivia and I just thought that was wild.
So, anyway, I just want to call him mention that. Very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Um I don't know if Chris was accurate about wildcard teams winning three straight road games to win a Super Bowl.
Didn't the Giants do that? The Giants did. The Packers did it too. I think the, yeah, didn't the Steelers do it one year too? The Giants did it in 2010.
I mean the Giants did it. It's no question the Giants did it. Yeah. ended Farve. They ended far from it.
Making their way to ending your perfect season. That was the Tom Coughlin frozen solid on the sideline game. Far pick six and overtime. I just Will never forget. That is truly for me in my 18 years.
Of hosting NFL network. If I had to start choosing like top five moments or whatever, I'm not, by the way, I'm not. Planning on going anywhere? Not going anywhere? But I'm just bringing up how being in the old giant stadium.
For that week. Seventeen game. where the Giants had nothing to play for anymore and the Patriots had nothing to play for except the 16-0 season. And the NFL network had the game, and we were in the middle of all these cable wars. And Senators from New England were writing letters to the NFL saying that the NFL better make this game available.
And it's just like, hey, we're trying to make this available. It's called. You know, in the marketplace, like talk to the cable operators that refuse to carry NFL network. You know, that's the reason why. And then.
Suddenly, that game was like the state of the union. Like it was everywhere. Like every suddenly, instead of that being the most exciting, If if the Patriots had one loss. That would have been an NFL network exclusive, and we'll see what happened. But the Patriots had zero losses, and it was everywhere.
It was like the State of the Union. You could choose whatever network you wanted to see that thing on. It was available. I watched that game in Washington, D.C. I was in town to visit friends.
We went to the Wizards game and then watched the second half of Giants Patriots in a sports bar. And the Giants had no reason to play their starters. 0.0 reasons to play their starters, except for the fact that Coughlin's like, we're going to compete today. And not a single soul in that building with just anybody you know. Yeah.
If anybody had told us that night That This was going to be the Super Bowl. matchup. three weeks hence, after that game, or four weeks, whatever the heck it was. You know, go ahead. What are you smoking, bro?
Give me something. Yeah. That it might top the Jerry Jones ones, I'm just saying. But that that that drop? Yeah.
Uh uh you know we might have a new power rankings. Honestly. I'll never forget that. I will never, ever, ever forget that night because we were just, it was wild. It was, and, and, Obviously they didn't stop New England.
When it was Brady setting the touchdown record, Moss setting the receiving record on the same play. It was amazing. It wasn't a, you know, they did eventually take care of the Giants. What was the final score that night? I feel like it was 35, 31.
It was close, wasn't it? Yeah, it was close. 'Cause the only other thing I can equate it to was, you know, uh that I guess. Team USA taking on the Soviets in Madison Square Garden three days before heading off to uh The Olympics is 38-35.
Okay, so it was close. Yeah. Uh you know Nobody knew that that was going to be a... U uh team USA versus uh the Soviets. a semifinal round Metal round matchup.
And the Giants were actually winning 28-16. Dude. And the Pats scored back to back. Maroney punched one in, and then Brady hit Moss for that 65-yarder to give the Pats the lead. They didn't look forward to it.
We're also hearing a ton of, or seeing, I don't know if it's showing up on your timeline, I'm sure. Um Romo. when the Bucs and the Chiefs played in week 12. And the Chiefs put up seventeen in the first quarter thanks to Tyreek Hill coming up with two hundred yards receiving in the first quarter of that game. And then it got really close because the Bucs came back and started putting points on the board and holding Mahomes down after the first quarter.
And after that game, Romo, if you heard... That is on my timeline. Did it not show up in yours? Him saying, Jim, I got a sneaky suspicion, better than 50-50 chance that these two teams will be back here on this turf for the Super Bowl. And I don't think anybody really thought that.
But he said he started seeing some signs of the offense performing well, and we had Arianazan this week, and he said that was the game. That second half, where they're kind of starting to get five, and you're like, that was the last Bucs loss. Yeah. 'Cause they come off the bye week and they started crushing people. Man, oh man And if the Chiefs hadn't let their foot off the gas pedal, You know, by resting all their starters in week 17, they'd have come into this with just one loss.
Malcolm Jenkins, his thoughts on the Super Bowl coming up next. You know, another, and just speaking of Malcolm being in New Orleans, one of my first great memories of Being at NFL Network, we did do. The Monday night football. Pregame show as if the game was on NFL Network. It wasn't.
I mean, it was the only time we were ever put on the road to do a road show for a game that A, we didn't have, or B, it wasn't a Super Bowl. The only time in the history of the NFL network that we were on the road out of studio doing a pregame show for somebody else's regular season game was the reopening of the Superdome. Because it was a huge priority for Paul Taglibu and the league, clearly, to have the Saints back in the Superdome after Hurricane Katrina. And we were there. And Marshall was there too.
Mr. New Orleans. And being in the building, watching. Michael Vick, get the ball first. And watching him prior to the punt that we all know that led to the punt return for a touchdown.
Um That Signified that the Saints were back. Vic fumbled the ball out of bounds first. The ball was loose first, okay? And the whole place went absolutely insane. And of course, you know, the punt block.
That led to the touchdown. That Steve Gleason is now memorialized for with a statue out in front of the stadium. And the rebirth of the saints occurred. And Being there that night was just unbelievable. It was truly unbelievable.
And I'll never forget. You know, Marshall's like, let's go out. And I say to Mariuchi, We're going out, join us. And he's like, No, I think I'm going to go back to the hotel. He goes, Well, I'll get you the next time.
I'm like, yeah, Steve, the next time that a force of an act of nature really wipes this town off the planet. And they have a triumphant return, and you are here with the native son, one of the most famous New Orleans of all time, and Marshall Falk, taking you around the town. That's when you'll get us back? Like, get your ass out of the hotel. What are you thinking?
Mooch is that guy, though, who just needs you to say, okay, come on. He's like, all right. All right. And then at three in the morning, he's got the lampshade on his head. But he actually did go back to his hotel room that night.
Oh, really? He did. Didn't work. It didn't work. Wow.
844-204-Rich is the number to dial. We'll take your phone calls. Two more hours to go.
Next guest, Malcolm Jenkins of the Saints, formerly the Eagles. When we come back.
