No-Contest Wrestling: WWE Money In The Bank Recap

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Hello there, neighbors. Welcome to another Monday episode. Of the no contest wrestling podcast, I am the heel that you love to hate, O'Shea Jackson Jr. K.A. Pettiguero Hey yo, it's me, it's me, it's the T double O that.

J-I double G2 jiggy. TJ Jefferson, how you doing? I'm doing Pretty, pretty good. Pretty, pretty good. We had a pretty eventful Saturday here in Los Angeles.

Kind of action-packed, and I ain't talking about what's going on downtown. Yeah, no, no, no, no. And be safe out there. Yeah, come on. You know, just for your boys.

Be safe out there.

Now, We had World's Galaxy. Yeah. And we had money in the bank. Money in the bank. Man, that's a long day of wrestling.

That was, man. That's a long, and I, and like, Fighter Fest the week before on that Wednesday. Four hours. Bro. You know, I watched all four.

My legs start falling asleep during wrestling. It's a problem, bro. I was like, who ain't no one got time for four hours of this. Guess who sat there for four hours? I guess I'll just order some food.

But The weekend belongs to the PLE.

So we have to get into that, man. We have to get into that World's Collide. Had and Money in the Bank. Money in the Bank started the way that I like and ended the way that I like. But we will get to that breakdown, man.

So where should we start for, I guess? I mean, since we're staring at it right now, let's get into this PLE, the Money in the Bank, then we'll get back to World's Collide. Absolutely, man. Both of us, by the way, are investing in Iguanas. But, man, money in the bank.

First, start off with the ladies. Ladies first. You know how we do things, man. And I, you know, I was. Surprised, honestly.

A little bit, like I can understand the um what was you surprised logistics a little bit as far as the you know whose match should go first, but. The women from the jump, I knew I was like, this is going to be the better money in the bank. I think that was the one that. We didn't quite know what was going to happen. Yeah.

And also the one where Whoever won, I'd be like, yeah. I see. I see why. You had obviously the leaders of the new school, the new era, coming in as far as superstars like Julia, Stephanie Bequer. Our girl, Roxanne.

And, you know, you had a bit of the old guard, you know, the bit of the old guard with Naomi, Alexa Bliss. Uh Rhea Ripley. And so you I could see it going either way. Obviously, we all We all, me and you. Yeah, the two of us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Roxanne. We picked Roxanne. Seem to be other plans. Yeah, you know, the reason was, you know, somebody put this on our YouTube page, like.

Why don't you guys pick Naomi? It was very simple because Naomi got some haters out there. Haters. I was like, there is no way. Jade Cargo, amongst other people.

And you know, Tiffany and Naomi have beef way back too, which will hit on. Everybody mad at her. But I was like, there's no way I could just see Naomi climbing that ladder, and then all of a sudden, Jade coming running down and pushing her off through a tit some tables.

Something so that, in my mind, is how I envisioned this was going to go. I got to admit, I didn't think that Jade would allow Naomi to win. I said, maybe Bianca turns bad. You just broke into her mom's crib. Right.

You know what I mean? Like, you can't do that. Outlandish. Outrageous. I might want to stop you.

So that is the main reason I was like, I don't think. I think Naomi's gonna win this. She had a lot going against her. And. I believe that her being in that Has her tied with Natalya as far as most times and money in the bank, right?

Most experience. And yeah, there was a lot of things going against her. We just saw, by the way, I hate that we called that. On Monday, we saw Seth Rollins not be able to see CM Punk even make it into the match. He just couldn't muster up just the type of honor to just let him be in the match.

But it's something that we called here on the no control wrestling podcast. And honestly, sometimes I hate that we do that. One guy said, I'm going to have to stop watching this podcast. He said, I did something. And, you know, sometimes I'd be like, all right, well, sorry.

Maybe you'll find someone who you enjoy more. He goes, nah, man, you guys just been calling this stuff too much. I can't watch it. I'm sorry. I do hate watching a movie with somebody and they just guessed the whole ending before it even get good.

But. When it came to the match, there were some crazy spots. Roxanne did a springboard, I think it was on Taria, where she was laying on the ladder and she goes from the turnbuckle to the ropes. Flips onto Rhea, and I was like, Yeah, this is her night. She goes crazy.

Remember, even before that, Rhea had her in the move. I forget what she was going to do, but Roxy kind of flipped it, which then made Rhea go onto the ladder. Yeah, it was leading up to her doing that move. It was one of those, and then Julia and Stephanie have such. Great chemistry.

When you're fighting your best friend, man. And then, you know, let me tell you how that just hurts. Because when Stephanie was a guest here, we talked to her about Julia. She said how close they were, how much she loved Julia, how Julia helped her put furniture together for the crib. Right.

And then Julia went and stabbed her in the back. Yeah, but that's wrestling. That is. I ain't seen a pair of friends stay together yet. Yeah.

The new day broke up. Yeah, but then they didn't. Once that happened, though, I was like, it's fair game. Yeah, but we Matt and Jeff go at it. And yeah, the ladies for the second year in a row, I just feel like had the better Money in the Bank match.

And it could be because I'm a fan of every lady that was in the match. I've been a longtime Alexia Bliss fan. It was cool to see her and Roxanne, the two five-footers. Yeah, yeah, go at it. Five-footers go at it.

Alexa holding her own as a member of the old guard, the champions that we're used to seeing, and showing the newcomers how we do things in this Money in the Bank match. But we got to talk about a move that was coined here on the No Contest Wrestling podcast. I think you guys are aware: the devil's kiss onto the ladder. That was special. That was special.

That was special. And now we get to the point where the devil's kiss, it's so big it gets teased. It's synonymous. But it's a tease now. Because she starts to do it, everyone gets hyped, and then it gets taken away.

So then we lose it, and then. She gets of all people Rhea on a ladder. And there is a devil's kiss on a ladder. And first of all, I don't know if I said this last podcast. I know I tweeted it, but the fact that when we hear announcers get so hyped and say devil's kiss, it's kind of just, I can't front, it is such a dope moment because.

Even though we technically didn't. Actually, name it because, like I said, I had a list of names. I had Diablo's kiss on there. She's a devil's kiss, and I could say, you know. I had a bunch of American slang.

But we would have had to explain some of this stuff to her.

So when she said that, and I was like, yo, that's dope. That's hard. Do you wanna go with that? Boom, we nailed it.

So it's not like we solely came up with it, but we are responsible for putting it out there. We're the home of the name in the world. You know what I mean? So when I hear that, when I hear announcers use it, and it's just, I don't know, it's just like a cool feeling to know we have even like the smallest bit to do to help Stephanie with that.

So that's part of a little bit of wrestling history. Maybe so, man. You know? Because nobody is remember. Nobody had a name for that move until we asked that question.

Yeah, I mean. Yeah, everybody's waiting for it. And it's just a part of me knowing how, if you've been on social media, you know how. You know how the ladies of WWE talk to each other, and I could just see. Rhea Ripley volunteering a tribute.

I'll do it. 100%. Those girls love each other, man. You know, Jordan Brace loved taking the type of sportsmanship that we like to see here at the No Contest Wrestling podcast. But yeah, Stephanie getting Rhea up on the ladder, doing the devil's kiss on top of a ladder.

That was just next level epic right there. Just so much. They're so good. All six women were so good. It was just such a.

Enjoyable watch, man. And they deserve. Like, I know. The thing about Intuit Dome, right, is because there are lights on the handles of the chair, and I know this because I've watched so many Clippers games.

Sorry for that.

Sorry. Anyway, it does kind of make it look like sometimes seats are empty when someone's sitting there. It's just the lighting.

So I couldn't tell if there were some empty seats in the beginning. Yeah. But, you know, regardless, the women deserved to open the show and they did not disappoint. Yeah. And.

You can leave that Lakers stuff. I mean, okay. Nobody said Lakers. Nobody said anything about the Lakers. But we know what you're saying.

You just upset me. Nobody said nothing about the Lakers, bro. But yeah, so. It's Los Angeles. We're not on time for nothing.

We'll be late to our own surprise party. All right. This is a fact. And Englewood. Englewood.

You didn't do it downtown. You know, crypto, you probably get some more people in a little quicker. But when you got SoFi and the forum and all the nonsense that was happening with the citizens of Los Angeles on that day, they're not getting there on time, man. But the house got filled. We saw the numbers.

We ended up seeing the crowd. But yeah, the ladies put on a show for the people who were there. Early. Killed it, loved it. Then you get the vet in Naomi who everyone.

Story base wise, she could probably do the most with it. Um But that climb that she did to get to it It just felt so like... They're about to do something.

Somebody's coming out. This is too smooth. By the time she got out there, and I saw that hook come out. Because it was a wide shot from the top.

So I kept looking down the aisle. Yeah. And I was like, all right, James music is about to pop. And then you wait to hear the crowd. Wait, no.

No. Storms are coming. Oh, she's clear skies. She's getting this. She's getting this.

And I, dude, the whole thing was like, oh, no. And then once they grabbed, and Michael Cole said the name of it, it starts with a C, I forget, but the actual clamp. It's not a clamp, it's something else. But. As soon as that thing gets opened, then you pretty much know.

GG's. Because you know the thing with ladder matches, and look, man, we all, I think, kind of feel the same. It's like when people are climbing the ladder, you know who's going to get up there and who's not because of the amount. Yeah. Yeah.

Time. It takes Like, come on. If that briefcase is up there, this is up there about to change my life. I'm getting up that ladder with coils. You know what I mean?

Everybody's so stupid. Back in the day. Used to be them ladders used to be real wobbly, right? I don't know what they've done. Maybe whatever material is is under that mat, but.

Man, them Scary up there, bro. Scary up there, especially when you start to see a sea of people, your deaf perception gets messed up. But uh yeah, we know how Milk in the moment in a ladder match goes. That's super cool. I think uh.

A list that we should probably make are times where Because I I believe Razor Ramon Had a ladder match and he looked around and was like, There's whatever spot was missed was missed. And he kind of just had to take the win. And I'm sure that's happened a lot.

So we should probably look into it. Or those of you watching it on YouTube, if you know a couple of moments where that happened. Go ahead and put it in the comments. We would love that here at the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. But Naomi gets the duck, dude.

Yeah, after a great match, you know, she comes down with the briefcase. And now the possibilities are endless. Yeah. Women's Money in the Bank winners have a 100% success rate when it comes to cashing in this briefcase.

Well, theirs is white, but you see what I'm saying. This briefcase for a championship. It's going to be interesting. Who does she go after? Does she go after Tiffany?

Already have some beef there, right? Like, I think that's where your story is because remember when Naomi came back. They were trying to build Tiffany up. Just when Tiffany was making her ascent, she had a lot of matches with Naomi, went over a few times when she was trying to beat Nia, when Tiff was, you know, Nia's girl. Yeah.

She interfered.

So, you know, right then and there, that This new Naomi, you know it's on site. With Tiffany. I don't really think there's as much beef with EO, but it doesn't matter. Because Both of you got a belt. And I'm taking one of your titles.

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Now on a on Outside of The champions being the the reasoning for the decision. If I'm not mistaken, You know, Bianca's on raw. It might be something to have Raw's title and always have that over Bianca for the storyline. But then. Her husband worked at SmackDown.

Yeah, so that's it.

So he kind of got it. And I think it's the Tiffany thing, man. Prior beef there. Yeah, yeah. And even though she got issues, you know, she already said her and Jade, you know, when you watch any of her pressers, her and Jade, they're going to be all right, according to Naomi.

Yeah. She said that, or I'm sorry, her and Bianca. Right, right, right. My bad. She also said that Jade could go to hell.

Yeah. Go to hell. H-A-I-L.

So that's not going to get situated anytime soon.

So I think it's definitely Tiffany. It's that title. And, um, I think it's just now a matter of how long she wants to play the game. Because they always play in mind games with people. You know what I'm saying?

Like, and she is doing a. Wonderful job. I mean, just. On air, on social media, like her Twitter is like I now. Make it a point to seek out her tweets just to see the type of menacing tweets.

I mean, she's a menace right now on social media. And guess what? I thought I was a villain. I love it. And I know you love it.

Yeah. I think I actually put that on our Insta, on our No Contest Twitter. I'm like, she's a menace, and we love it.

So I knew I could speak for you at that point. Yeah, everything she's doing right now is just Chef's kiss. Like the in-ring, the out-of-ring, you know, even going back to when Jade, you know, got her revenge on her in the Elimination Chamber and Naomi War, the neck brace to the movie premiere, right? Just everything she's been doing. This new character has kind of opened up all these lanes for her.

And she's proven, man, that she's a vet and she's worthy. And it's almost like she's just been sitting and waiting for this moment and she is grabbing this moment by the. Pilot. Neck. We'll see what happens.

Obviously, like you said, the storyline with Tiffy. And also, that is the title that Naomi is most familiar with, former SmackDown Women's Champion. But that also means you never had that raw title before. Oh, yeah.

So we'll see. We will see. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, we will see where things go. That's why Money in the Bank is so amazing because it can go either way.

And then next. We have what was next on the card? I think Dom, right? Uh, was that the next match? I don't think that was the next.

No matter what we want to talk about, bro, it's all showing. You know what? Let's go Intercontinental Women's Title match because this is another match with a little bad feelings, a little bad blood. We got Lyra Valkyria. Champion going against the man in the Euroland Bowl 3, right?

All right, the uh zombie zombie banger. Um, by the way, shout out to the Korean zombies, UFC. Oh, right, yeah, well, shout out to the Korean walkout first and foremost. Yeah, they made the song, but um, I mean, like, I'm just telling you who I thought of, man. That's true.

His last walkout. Oh, that was amazing. Korean zombie and UFC. Chills, man. But, um, yeah, so we got we got Lyra versus Becky.

It's been a lot of bad blood. They've been doing great promo battles. Lyra's been really holding her own against Becky, which is hard to do. It's hard to do. Hard to do, dude.

And at first, she wasn't. Like, Becky, Becky is Becky, right? Becky got on the mic. She's pretty much going to tear most people up. But Lyra, at the beginning of all this, like, yeah, it was like, you need to step up.

Yeah. And that's exactly what Lyra's done. Lyra's picked it up. And we said this weeks ago when Becky came back, you know, Becky is there to ultimately elevate these other women because there's not a whole lot more Becky Lynch can do, right? But you're going to get caught in that Becky Lynn, Becky Lynch kind of backdraft or She's going to keep going up and then you are going to get elevated behind her.

It's your job. To keep the pace, or else she's going to leave you hanging. And Lyra's done a great job of hanging in there with Becky on the mic. Let me tell you something about the people of Ireland. Don't piss them off.

They will fight your ass. And Becky knows how to get that out of Lyra. Like I said, by the way, side note: Lyra is yoked. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Bro, she looks like a little ball of muscle, man. She's not Ivy Nile, but she's, you know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Lyra, she did that. I forget who her sit-down interview was, but.

Probably Ban Vleat because he gets everybody. Oh, chill. No, it was like on, it was like on the show. It might have been Kathy Kelly, somebody, but I was like, okay, I see you. Yeah, I see you, big dog.

I told you, I lied. Lyra became a fan the first vignette. Never even saw the woman wrestle a match. I saw a vignette, which proves, like you said on Twitter, vignettes are pretty important. And when used the right way, like I said, I had never heard of her, had never seen her.

I just watched the vignette on NXT one day and went like, I like her. And that was it. I'm still waiting for Veer Mahom. Still waiting. Bear is coming, folks.

I'm just waiting to see. But yeah, so you know they were going to put on a banger. And we had the stipulation, not to interrupt, but we had the stipulation. Becky, if Lyra wins, if Lyra wins, Becky will never challenge her for the Intercontinental Women's Championship as long as she's champion. Yeah.

But. If Becky wins. Than the ultimate, which I forgot about, Lyra has to take her hand and raise it, all four sides. And show her to the crowd as this. And put the belt on.

And that was never discussed, I don't think. I don't remember that part either. Look, Becky was making stuff up as she went along, but hey, it's Becky. She's doing what she wants. Yeah, and you knew from the last matches that they've had that Lyra was going to show off her technical prowess, obviously, with her being yoked.

She had to show off the power too as well. That suplex off the top rope is crazy. And yeah, they put on a great match, and I love that. No victory has been like a decisive like knockout victory. It's been just a um technicality, quick roll-up.

The most dangerous move in professional wrestling, by the way. And yeah, she ends up rolling up Lyra. Controversy because she used the tights for leverage, and Becky Lynch gets the victory over Lyra and then goes through her humiliation ritual. That's to honor that agreement. Yeah, so she has to raise her hand, and then Becky says, No, no, no.

You said you do all four sides.

So she has to lift her hand on her. It's like, all right, now, you know, I need help putting this on. I need help putting the title on because I can't reach around. Yeah, so she had to put the title on, and then enough was enough. And Lyra let Becky know that this isn't over, not by a long shot.

And I love that because they've been putting on some great matches. It's been very entertaining. And. On outside of the ring, you know, a complete personal personal note, you know, that. This type of stuff means something to Lyra to be able to work with Becky the way that she has and it for it to be a success.

Now, what I will say. I want some Bailey. Where's Bailey? Yeah, I need Bailey. You came out the whole thing is cause you you just you had you took Bailey's fucker out of mania and like I need Bailey I need Bailey in my life and I don't have it and it's pissing me off.

I know y'all gotta finish this out and it's gonna go maybe once, maybe two more times. But A. We want some Bailey. We want some Bailey. Bailey.

Bro, we need it. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. We didn't get enough time with her. That's for sure.

There will never be enough time with Bailey. You know, and you know, I think about it, man. I'm still a little upset with you when we interviewed Bailey, man. Let me tell you something about TJ. He threw me under the bus, though.

If there's anybody who will hold the most ridiculous grudge over your hand, it is TJ Jefferson. He is the wise one. He never forgets. I am Richard the King petty when it comes to pettiness. You know, I had a great story about meeting Bailey before she got called up.

And oh, Shay knows, he's heard my stories. He knows I wouldn't make it up. But then he laughed at me right in front of Bailey, man. And that just hurt my soul.

So I'm still upset about that. But look. With Look, we love Bailey. Actually. I think Bailey's mom's birthday was this weekend from social media.

So maybe that's why she wasn't there taking some family time out. Right. Who knows? But yeah, eventually I want some family time. How?

Stop. We need Bailey and Becky.

Okay. We love you, Lyra. Your time is coming. Yeah. Like you, Lyra's going to be, you know, on top for years.

But right now, Becky said some things lie. Becky said some things a lot, but she also said some stuff about Bailey. No, that's what I'm saying. She says some things that have to be answered for. Yeah.

Bailey can't let that slide. And we, as long supporters of Bailey, We need Becky to get her comeuppin's, bro. Can't disrespect the queen of the wacky, inflatable, arm flailing toothman. All right? That's your favorite thing.

Yeah, so. Bailey, we miss you. That's all. Come back. Come back.

Bailey, come back. Come back home. Any type of fool could have hit. We miss you, Bailey. Come back home.

Now guys tell you that uh WrestleMania weekend I saw Billy the night of the uh Hall of Fame induction. Going to her hotel. I was waiting in the lobby. I was talking to Sean Graben, and Bailey came by in that dress that everybody saw. It was amazing.

Yeah. It is June 9th.

Okay. It is June 9th.

Why did I wait so long? And you waiting to tell me this? On camera. What's it matter? What's your problem?

You were in your room. Is it something? Hold on. Is it something I'm doing? I feel like, you know, like I'm so supportive.

Anytime I'm on camera without you, I big up my tag team partners. He does. And you keep his secrets. You were in bed. It was June 9th.

You were in bed. I thought I told you this. I guess I didn't tell you this. We will talk about this after the episode, but continue your story. Everybody else gets to know the shit.

That was just the story. Oh, that was it? The dress? You want the flex? There was a dress that everybody was talking about.

I happened to see the dress in person. And that was it. That was just all I was going to say. Your cookies in the mail.

Now what's the rest of the damn this ain't even now we got Dumb. Octagon Jr. That's right. You see Worlds Collide, we'll talk about that. Yeah.

Dom was there because he's the greatest Luchador, right?

So, bro.

So, greatest mysterio of all time, greatest intercontinental channels.

So, he's looking to see who's the second greatest luchador, I think. And then Octagon Jr. came over, they had a little thing. A little tussle happened. Dom was like, nah, Joe, we got to do this.

A mile down the road. Fistercuffs. We're about to have a match.

So, Intercontinental Tidal match. And, and, I'm putting my hardware on the line. That's how confident I am. It wasn't one of them. No title match, nothing like that.

You didn't need any of these general managers to come out and be like, well, now you got to put the title. He was like, no, I'll put it on. Yeah, because he's like, Dom's like the way it is.

So he, yeah, they have their match. Got to live to the side. She got to watch his back. But what I loved about this, he didn't even need that. He didn't even need that this time.

Well, you always need a little living. I mean, yeah, bro. You know, you always need a little man. You only live once. But with Don is probably two, three times.

But so with with the guys from Triple A on the side. Dom is best. when he's doing crowd work. And he gets to just speak a little of that Spanish trash. He is in a bag that is different from that character, bro.

He is in, he goes on another level, and him talking smack to the AAA dudes while putting on the match with Octagon Jr., it just felt like. That's my intercontinental champion, right? You know, the too small gesture he was doing to him, just like, bro, he was just so in his bag. I don't understand because there's, of course, there's going to be. People sprinkled online who are just Everything babyface, everything babyface, but how can you hate Dominic Mysterio?

Like, how can you not see what we all see? That this dude is. Television gold. Television gold. And that's why he got gold around his waist.

Dirty, dirty dog. Dirty dog. Yep. I trust him with my car. Mm, that's saying something.

Yeah. Speaking of which my car didn't start this morning. That's okay. Range Rover recalled mine. Mm-hmm.

We're poor. I'd take an Uber anyway. Anyway. Yeah. So, yeah.

Dom, I mean, we didn't. Honestly, a title change would have been probably the most shocking thing of the show. Oh, my God. We would have started the show with that. But it's always about like.

Expanding wrestling knowledge, right? And getting. These AAA guys in front of as many eyes as you can. And people who didn't have any knowledge of October Jr.

now know him, and hopefully. They'll be following him, and we'll see where it goes from here. But big ups to Dom, you know, successful defense of his IC title. Absolutely, and you know. Like we said, we will talk to, we will talk about.

worlds collide uh a little bit, but It's such a smart move. On WWE's part, this acquisition of AAA, because it's been a stigma and kind of a thorn in the side of the company for a long time that they don't know what to do when it comes to Luchador. There's been a few successful ones, yes. Not as successful as Dom because he's the greatest. I mean, when you hit gold, like, you know, you start to see the wealth in other places, and that's what they've done.

And so I'm very interested in how they handle this. Um The red carpet that was rolled out this Saturday was great presentation for him. And yeah. Hopefully there's a new a new avenue, a new door open to Get onto Television within WWE, which at the end of the day, the more eyes on you, the better when it comes to entertainment. And also, getting back to what you said about Dom taunting the AAA guys, I think honestly, that should probably lead us into a Judgment Day match against some of these guys, whoever they decide.

to send up. That seems like that was. You thinking The right way, and I love that for you. Yes. Because that's good.

Yeah, you know, come on now. JD. Ugh. You know, Carlique. I know you did not.

You I caught myself. You all won the day. I caught myself. That's what I know. I filmed Lil Upset Frankie this year.

Listen, all I can say is. That's not cool. No, if I had an apple, I'd spit it out already now. Yeah, but I feel like you know, Judgment Day, triple-A-like, the possibilities are endless. But I kind of, if I was booking it, if I'm going to use my Creative liberty.

I would do that. I would put that match together. Because you can't just have that happen and then nothing. Nothing comes from it. Words were said, and you need your comeuppance.

That's true. Gotta give me a fair one, bro. Right. And they don't discriminate. These hands is rated E for everyone.

All right. Everybody. Everybody getting it. But I like the way you're thinking, and I stand behind you. Appreciate it.

Yes. I might not always agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death your right to say it.

Well, you should agree because most of the time it's we have to talk about something else. You know, it's thought out. It's. Right. Yeah, it's right.

Wow. What a man. Am I right, ladies? But so anyway. Our next match.

The man demands. You know how I feel, bro. Go ahead. I'm going to let you introduce this one. I can't believe it.

Men's money in the bank match. What can you say? What can you say? We had six competitors already. To put everything on the line to climb ladders, multiple, because you know it just ain't gonna be one ladder.

It's gonna be multiple ladders. You know, we had. Seth Rollins in the match. Pentagon in the match. Yay.

Andrade in the match.

Okay, yay. Earl Ernest. We had. El Grande. Americano.

Honestly, I need that match between him and Dom. I need to see what he's going for. Yeah, I know, but we're talking about greatest losing doors. This dude's making a run, bro. And then we had this guy who his career and his character have just flipped.

Solo. Yeah. Solo is low-key now, the funniest dude, maybe on the roster, right? Man, I love Solo.

Solo is so funny and has. Adapted this character so quickly that if you notice, there was a point. Braun Breaker was in the ring and later on in the match, and he looked at Solo and kind of did his. You know, I got to say this: I'm all for. The humorous solo when we're doing Promos.

Yeah. I Watching it during the match, it was funny. You know, especially at the beginning where he's trying to do everybody's thing, like LA Night and the pound, and then the. But it I think I want that vicious solo back.

So I don't know how I feel about him doing it in actual matches, but that's not my call, obviously. I'm just going by. Being a fan, but is it entertaining? Man, he has hit a humorous. Level of it's just interaction with everyone right now.

And it's funny, but I just don't know, characterize if that's the right. The way to go about this in the ring being Mr. Funny Guy. Yeah, and R-Truth kind of spoke to that a little bit earlier this year, of just like. You start to, while you are having fun, while the crowd is accepting what's happening, you then start to put yourself into a box.

you know, you start to kind of put a ceiling over yourself because You know, you're looked at as the funny guy. And so when you're going up against somebody who has the title for however long Kfabe kind of makes you think like This person shouldn't lose to solo's funny, you know? And we don't want that for us. Yeah, yeah. There's a balance that has to be found.

I'm not going to act like I'm not entertained. I'm entertained. Because, boy, that promo he cut, where he was like, got your little bloodline here. Who are you? The right-hand man, like right-hand man Jey Usa.

Everything he does from the knock knees and the facial, like the. Yeah, bro.

Solo guy, jokes.

Solo is he's on point. Like I said, I just am not sure how I feel right now about that being his character, but I'm sure he'll find the necessary balance and get otherwise to be. But yeah, those six guys were. Trying to climb the ladder to success, escalator style, as Biggie once said, you know, and I mean, and grab this case and change everything. They went about it.

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We get it. They got a commercial before the match, they got a commercial during the match. It was crazy. I see you 7-Eleven with the turnbuckle logo. But that fireball whiskey ladder got such a showcase, it was insane.

The other thing is, people get so weird about being upset about like what? Why do you care about it? Don't affect the match fireball. The one thing I gotta admit I don't love are all of the logos on the mat. I don't love it, but I'm not gonna sit here and let it ruin something.

Right, like, I don't love it, like, I don't. Just like Fireball on the ladder. I don't give a crap that it says fireball, man. Slim Jim on the table. You know, like, but people want to complain about them.

Yeah, I've, like, there was not one time. During that match where I'm like, man. If only I mean, I know these ladies are killing it right now, but all I could think about is Elden Ring. Like, I never, I never bothered me. You know, man, I really want to slurpee right now.

I don't know what it is. Nothing if you're watching the match, it shouldn't affect you. Seen it in boxing. If you watch New Japan, that whole thing looked like graffiti.

So it's okay, guys. But once again, we know who we're talking to. A lot of y'all on Twitter are probably machines anyway.

So it doesn't even matter. But the fireball, the fireball whiskey ladder, saving the day, giving a lot of great spots. It was actually two ladders. There's two of them in there. Yeah.

But. When When LA Night Uh puts El Grane Americano up the side of one of those ladders, and he ran up the ladder and went to Dude, that spot, number one, could have gone real bad. Yeah. Could have gone real bad. That teeter nonsense can go bad.

Because it actually started off bad because he wanted to. He's supposed to. Awesome. Yeah, I don't know how you caught, but like... You know, flip him up to the ladder and he couldn't get him up.

So then he had to have enough room in that corner. It was too tight. But the climbing up to the ladder to get to.

Now we're leaning into the ladder. Like that whole thing was, like you said, like beautifully done. And then just the idea of how. If that ladder hits the ladder that's standing a little too hard, Guys go flying. Maybe not because it was Andrade.

Somebody was standing on the other side.

So it kind of. Oh, and you know what? Seth Rollins is at the bottom of the other one. Seth is at the bottom of the other one. He's holding the one that has to flip.

So you just, you really have to pay attention. But you'll, you, there was about four or five times I definitely saw. Ladies and men doing the same thing when someone's climbing, someone will like kind of hook the ladder when they're laying on there just to make sure it's staying one band, one sound. We all know what we're doing. Because we're trying to make sure we all get home safe.

Exactly. You know what I mean? You love to see it. You love to see that. But it's so subtle that if you're not looking for it, you're not going to see it.

And, you know, I love that spot. It's a great spot. What else? What else? It was just an A-plus match, man.

Yeah, it's just so much happening in these matches. Because I think going in, we kind of all understood when you looked at all the names. This was probably going to be Seth's, right? Yeah, I mean, that's either you liked it or you didn't like it. I didn't.

Story-wise, it made no one else would have made sense going forward. But that being said It was still a very enjoyable match. And, you know, anytime you do kind of get those moments where you're like, wait a minute. Could Oh, nah, he ain't gonna kidding.

So, and that's all you want, really, right? Just help me continue to suspend my disbelief. Give me a thought that, oh, wait a minute, this isn't going to go the way I think it's going to go. And they did that. There was a couple of times where I was like, oh, man, I hope we did not call Grande Americano pulling this off right now.

It was a couple of times. He had that speedy run. Like you said, like, that was it. A few times where. But there was a moment where.

I swore I I saw a murder. When Braun Breaker came running down that ramp. He hit Grande Americano. with everything. Everything he had.

And Grande Americano did a flip off impact alone. And I thought, no, that's a dead body right there. Need to call Naomi out, get some of that yellow tape off American. Yeah, because we need to chalk this boy out. He's done.

I think Chad Gable felt that Grande hit so hard. His pal, having to watch one of his mentors reverberated to the locker room. Like, Chad even felt that. That was. It was bad.

But Bronbreaker, being the animal that he is, becomes pop. And by the way, it's like you. You claim that you're so anti this new faction, right? Yeah, can't stand it. But the thing is.

You love Braun Breaker. I love him. And you love Bronson Reed. I love him. Two guys that you love, that you sat in this chair and said you love.

Are you looking at the bigger picture? Knowing that now, these two guys, like I said about Lyra, these guys are going to be elevated more just being with Seth and being with Paul Heyman. This is going to make them. I will.

So, is someone who. Loves these two guys in the big picture. You should really be okay with it. How do you want further? I love Seth Rollins.

I think it's stupid that Seth Rollins needs more help. Right? That is just insane to me, okay? And we're going to get to the solo spot and the Jacob and all that, but let me just say this because he brought it up right now. Seth Rollins Whether he won that briefcase or not, is going to challenge for that title every other week.

He's got two mountains of men with him all the time. He didn't need the briefcase. And now he just has even more power. And to the LA Knight fans, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

LA Knight is just proof. Like just a living embodiment of a white man who's being oppressed in WWE. This is crazy. What more does this man need to do? I mean, my goodness.

You want shirts? I sell them. You want the crowd talking about me? I got it. This is my third match in a row.

My being an LA Knight fan is probably. The worst right now. They don't know where to go. These people are just nomads just roaming around. They have no home.

They don't know what's going on. I feel for you. All right, I feel for you. And then Michael Cole with the uh I thought LA stood for Louisiana. Who's that?

In my school. Can you chill? I can remember the first time I called him Los Angeles Knight on the podcast, and people on our YouTube page were going nuts laughing. I was like, what did you think of this, bro? Like, Louisiana Knight.

Los Alamitos night, like what are we talking about? Yo, Michael Cole, you're so unhinged talking about El Grande Americano, too. First of all, you need to like the disrespect propaganda pushing Michael Cole. If it wasn't for McAfee, they're like reminding the rest of us that Cole's a little bit off. Like, Cole's got beef with Gable, apparently, which is blinding him to the fact these two men don't even look alike.

Like, Chad Gable had a black arm wrap on, El Grande Americo Americano had a white armband. Like, Chad Gable's like 5'9. El Grande Americano is definitely 5'10. Like, you know what I'm saying? You see it.

You see it. Right there. We're not blind, dude. And then thank you, Pat, for bringing up. You think he's the only one that wears arm accessories?

Right. Like he's not playing with Chad Gable before in your life. Right. My God. Oh, wait.

He wears knee pads. Really? How about that? He invented knee pads. Like, he's just the disrespect.

Michael Cole. Focus on the match, bro. Chad Gable had an incredible. We don't do stars, like give him all the stars for the match at World's Collide. You think that that man, after battling Kingo.

Wouldn't even have like the energy to go, like, come on, Michael Cole. Never got his props either. No, never got his props with Michael Cole for what he did. And also, side note, quick note, let me get you right here: Stephanie Vacare. You did three.

She did three. We'll get to World's Collide. We'll get to World's Collide. But yeah, three matches in 20 hours. Yeah, like insane.

Insane. The go. But yeah, Michael Cole, chill out, bro. Relax, bro. Chill out, man.

Some respecting El Grande. You know, I don't like El Grande anyway. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm a Vinty man myself. But I'm still a little bit like, I don't understand how you disrespect Max Farno like that.

Like, these are clearly two different men. I'm pretty sure I saw blonde hair fall out of the back of El Grande's mask. Chat Gabo ain't blonde. Right. And who who am I going to believe?

Michael Cole or TJ Jefferson, who I see every day. Every day. Every day. At least once a week. Yeah, I know.

I talk to you every day, though. He just got me hyped, bro. All right. Maybe like three days a week. Yeah, man.

Pissing me off. Chad Gable, even let him borrow his shoes. Whatever, man. How much of a mensch was that? The man, TSA lost El Grande's, luckily, just the boots, not the whole gear.

Yeah. Chad Gable, like. Feet a little bit smaller. He said El Grande stretched his boots out. Yeah.

Because they're not the same size. No. One guy's taller, one guy's got bigger feet. I don't understand how this is so hard. But, anyway.

Yeah, bro.

I mean, it's, it's. Triple H's, do something, man. But so there was a moment where Solo looked like he was going to get the dub. What? I really felt it because when Seth guys came out, the whatever they want to call themselves, dude, no one knows.

I saw some people calling them the vision. The two weapons of mass destruction that he loved, by the way. I mean, yeah, bro, just not together, all right? You do that. You got these animals in suits, they're beasts.

Damn it, you got them in the shackles of the man. They still rock. Bronze is still rocking the fresh J's, though.

So, every time.

So then you got Bloodline 2.0, if they were still even called that, you got JC Mateo, and you got. The small werewolf coming out to night. Coming out to make the save, they protect Solo, then you see. Jacob set Solo up for victory.

Solo didn't really like the ladder, so they got a taller ladder because he was never going to reach that briefcase. And then as he's going up, which ladder was that? Was it that one mark too? Because I wasn't paying attention to what was written. Yeah, I never noticed because who gives a damn?

Exactly. And as Solo's going up the ladder, Jacob. Has a change of heart and grabs Solo's leg.

Well, first of all, then we go back to the humorous side of Solo. Yeah. He's climbing up the ladder, doing this thing, and then he goes to reach. Can't seem to have emotion. And then he looks down.

Jacob's got him by the calf. What are you doing? What are you doing? This was simply before. He he hit him with the new the new saying.

I hate you. Hate you. Wow, that was powerful. Yeah, and I just maybe we should say what got them to that point on SmackDown on Friday. Yeah, let them know because I feel so weird about this term.

Yeah, man, because on SmackDown on Friday, JC and Solo are having a little bit of a conference between the two of them. They don't think Jacob's around. And basically Solo is saying that Jacob is all gas and no brains. He's stupid and he's gonna do whatever Solo says. And as they laugh and walk away, of course.

So it was a moment ago was right around the corner. We heard the whole thing, man. And that leads to what happened. And I understand why it happened, but I just feel so weird. And it's probably because.

That segment between them and Seth's crew. They felt like faces for a second, for like a split second. That bloodline faction felt like a face. Going up against Seth and his crew. And then.

when you see them about to prevail. You're like, oh yeah, they do got turmoil.

So it was a bittersweet moment because you want Jacob is probably the most lethal babyface there is right now. It's like I said on Instagram, a few months ago and it This comment has been liked, I think, about 3,000 times. I don't even know whose page it is on. But I randomly said the Jacob Fatu face turn is going to be legendary. Yeah.

And it looks like we're going to find that out because Jacob destroyed Solo. And Jacob is one of those guys like... Whoever's got the world title, man, hold it. You know, make sure you cherish every moment with it. Take pictures.

Make sure your family gets pictures with it. Because when they make the decision to give that dude the world title. It's going to be a long time before anybody take that from him.

So just well, hopefully that holds true for the U.S. belt. I mean, yeah. I mean, we saw what Gunther had the Intercontinental title 666 days, which is crazy, by the way. That's a wild number.

Like, right? That's a wild number. How does that happen? Do they look? They can't plan far enough ahead and go, wait a minute, this is day 666.

That's the point. Like, you lost day 666. We were going to put them on night two, but now that would be 667. Like, that's. You're right.

That's very crazy. But anyway, yeah, so we. He's got some time, but right now, that's what the focus is on. He helps Seth Rollins unintentionally get the victory, which was another moment where I thought. You know, Seth is climbing the ladder for a long time.

Another wide-angle shot. I'm thinking we're going to hear. And here and see him punk come out, but or you thought you might hear, you know, the piano. Come on, bro. We miss you, Chief.

It's turmoil, bro. We need you. But completely throw in my. You know, and he did that on Monday, completely throwing my my CM Punk Money in the Bank idea out the window.

Now we're just at the mercy of Seth Rollins. Monday Night Raw is tonight. And yep, we're just at the mercy of this crew. Like I knew we were gonna be. At WrestleMania.

Every week. This crew Hey. Every week. Like a great man once said. Whether you like it.

or whether you don't like it, learn to love it.

Okay, that's what you better do, my friend. All right, because I'm here for it. I'm here for Rollins. I'm here for Reed. I'm here for Steiner.

I'm here for Heyman. I'm here for whoever they bring into the crew, because I don't think they're quite done yet. Oh, my God. I don't think they're done yet, Joe. This is how people feel about LeBron, probably.

How much help does Seth Rollins need? My God, is Brock coming back? Like, what is going on? Seth deserves this, and I'm going to tell you why. Because Seth Was the guy who did the right thing always?

Remember the last few years, right? Cody comes back. They put him in the ring with Seth. Seth has to eat the pin. Three matches, including a match where Cody had part of his muscles, his pet, ripped off of his body.

Black and white. Remember all that? Yeah, yeah, the bruises. There's no reason Seth should have had to take the pin in that hell in the cell. And he did.

Seth did the job. He did the job for a while until the World Heavyweight Championship came. And then he took that belt and he elevated it to where it is now. And then after he lost it, He went back down a little bit.

So, Seth is a guy who I feel like he deserves whatever role he's at, whatever positions he's at, because. He takes the L's when he has to. He takes the W's, obviously. He's the guy that you plug in, and he's going to make anything work. And he's always there.

So, you know what? I don't begrudge it. I'm here for it. I'm here for the story. I'm going to see where it goes.

Let me tell you, man. I love and respect Seth Rollins. I can count how many bad Seth Rollins matches there have been. on a hand if you took three fingers away, okay? He is the man.

I get all that. He has prevailed. without all this help before.

So I don't want to hear this. He had, he's, whoa, whoa with Seth. He constantly comes back and he constantly wins. And now you've given him just nuke after nuke after nuke and there is no stopping him. It's just nothing there.

And I don't know what we call in this thing. You know, he called it the little blood or the little bloodline solo called it. I don't know if it's another version of the shield. You know, you got a crazy white guy. You got a dude with tribal tattoos from the island.

Y'all could be the sword. I don't know if it's evolution. You're a revolutionary, so you could call it revolution. I don't know what it is, but I'm tired of it already, man.

Okay. I love. Listen, Colby, probably a great guy. You're taking that. Kobe tired.

He's taking an awesome dude. I think he's hilarious. Seth Rollins, the performer, one of the GOATs. He is the man. From Tyler to Seth, he is the man.

But this character right now, I I would rather eat my hat. I'd rather eat my hat than see him just successful right now. And I'm about to start boiling hats. Because my God, he has everything laid out for him right now. And CM Punk.

All the Pepsi in the world can't help him right now. Roman, please. Please Roman. Come back home. Are you mad?

You and Bailey. You sound like you're mad. I'm not mad. I'm going to give you a cape so you can be super mad because I'm telling you right now. I almost called you a slur.

Yeah. No, no, no. Naysayer, please listen, get on board. The more you're fighting this dangerous allegiance, this dangerous revolution, the more I'm getting behind it. I got to be on this with you.

I'm here for it. You are toxic. All right. I'm just saying.

So, yeah, so Seth Rollins he climbs the ladder. Yeah. Like I said earlier, climbed the ladder to success escalator style. He got the briefcase for the second time. And now we're going to see what happens.

And I'm here for it. I can't wait. Listen, in a perfect world. Hey, Seth. Use it on John.

He's an on John, baby. In a perfect world. Come on. Bro, I promise the pop will be crazy from here.

Now, what you're saying is a joke, but it makes sense. And because what is John Cena's? What is his mission right now? Ruin wrestling.

Okay. Why did Seth Rollins put this group together? Uh To save wrestling.

Okay. He said he's the only one who can save wrestling. John Cena is trying to ruin wrestling.

So it makes sense to me, Seth. Why wouldn't you? Take your your group and your focus. And put it on the man who's trying to destroy what you claim you're out to save. Look, I ain't creative liberties.

I don't write this stuff, but it kind of makes sense. If one dude wants to tear apart everything that you love and that you help to build. Why wouldn't you go after that man and get rid of him? I got one word. Creative liberty.

I got one word on why it won't happen. Netflix They're like, we need somebody and we need Paul Heyman. If y'all got John over there, we need to keep Paul over here, bro. He's not taking the group over there. But We shall see.

Either way, I'm going to watch anyway, so who cares what the hell I'm talking about? Exactly. Exactly. Where's the where's the support? Where's the support?

I support you when when I agree with you. But not what I don't agree with. This is black fatigue. Yeah. So, next, we got the main event.

The main event. And can't be the main event without main event, Jay Uso, Cody Rhodes. Logan Paul. And John Cena. I only got one thing to say.

Faux letters. One word. Uh-huh. Yee! I know y'all hate that.

I know somebody somewhere is, man, that's so stupid that all he has is that song. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. This match is going down, obviously.

Cody and Jay came out matching each other. That was nice. Yeah. I mean, they are the team with chemistry. They're former team champions.

Didn't like that it looked like the French flag on Jay Uso's shorts. That threw me off more than the Fireball Whiskey Ladders. And then when you think Jay's about to do the Yeet one more time with the crowd, of course. uh the Maverick Logan Paul's music play and I said this on Twitter. That scream in the beginning of Logan Paul's entrance music, that is, you remember the most annoying sound in the world from Dumb and Dumber?

Yes. It reminds me of that immediately. And it's perfect for Logan. The music is great. A lot of people pointed out he's the only superstar with an actual Titantron these days, like showing pieces of his match.

A lot of guys, they just got to show their name. And then, so you know who the song is: Death Rebel, we're talking about you. But then John Cena comes out. They put on the match. John being such a if you're going to even bring that up.

I'm not going to front. The whole drone thing is kind of cool. It's cool. It's cool. I was willing to hate on it, you know, but it's really dope.

It's up because you've never seen anybody do that before.

So he holds the drone that flies around the arena and then it stole the show a lot in this match, bro. Whether it be that spot with the drone board onto the table, he is. Yeah, exactly. He's a highlight reel. He's a walking highlight reel.

And You can hate on the dude all you want. He can put on a show. And that, at the end of the day, is what we're here to see as a show.

So, I just want to give it up to Logan Paul for his performance in the match. John being in full heel mode. I think it was hilarious when. When he was tagged in, and then Cody does a move on him, and John sprints to the other side of the ring to tag Logan back in. I thought that was hilarious.

A lot of people are like, What happened to John Cena? He's being a classic wrestling heel. That's what.

Well Jay got beat up for a long time. And like, as a fan, I was just like, come on, I bet you the internet's loving this. But. Internet's a fake place. It doesn't exist.

It doesn't exist. This match is going on There's a spot where Jay hits l Not Logan. Jay hits.

Somebody got hit with a spear. John.

Someone is wholly. Yeah, Jay has to hit John with the spear onto the table, and a lot of people were mad that it didn't break. Yeah, but like, he has to set it up for the Lord. Because if the table breaks, then. Then you can't get the Logans.

Yeah. So what are they talking about? They had to kind of be. A little delicate, yeah, a little bit delicate because, by the way, if the table breaks, they're great, yeah, great shot, but then you don't get the Logan flip right on the table.

So, y'all are watching the same match with us and still finding spots to complain about when you know why that table had to still be up. And that is the most infuriating part: we're watching it at the same time, or are a lot of y'all just looking at clips, retweeting it so you can get your joke off? I think that's pretty much it, man. Man, not really watching, just watching what Twitter is saying, yeah, what other people are saying, and so it's uh matches going on. Obviously, you kind of feel that it's going bad when that ref goes down.

When the ref goes down, it's kind of a good thing, and John Cena picks up the title. And John Cena looks like he's going to end the match the way that the last three or four have ended. Cracks. Cracks Cody across the head. Here we go again.

Another replay of WrestleMania Night 2. But then the murmur happens. The murmur went out through the crowds. It's rumbling.

Somebody jumps the barricade, blacked out hood, even blacked out face. But the thing that gave him away that black ass back. No, not the bat. Bro. The suck.

The sock? There was no sock. My first thing, when it first happened, right, I thought Randy Orton jumped in.

Okay. Right. Because I wasn't thinking. The per I thought Randy. But As the pant leg came up, I saw the same thing you guys are looking at now.

I saw brown skin, and I said, wait a second. That ain't a bad thing. Right now, as your friend, that is a different person's leg than the rest of your life. It's a little absolutely. You know what I mean?

You know, remember we had to. Yeah, bro, you ever looked at that? Our legs look crazy. Mick Foley was so upset he didn't wear socks when he was here. And the whole time we were interviewing him, he was just sitting here like looking at his angles.

Like, bro, we did it in support. And looking back, we look. Wild. At least I did use lotion that day. Today, I don't know.

You know? A little haunting, a little haunting, haunting the studio. Point being, I saw a leg and I was like, wait a second, that ain't Randall K's leg. Yeah, on the spear, I saw the leg. And I was like, oh.

So now he stands up and he pulls the mask. And what do the kids call those things that cover shisty? Yeah. That's why I got you here. Shysty.

He pulls off the shisty and it's our truth. And man, the pop. I take that back. It wasn't our truth. No.

That was wrong killing. Rah raw.

Okay, the look on his face, it wasn't a game. Before it was a game, right? It's ain't a game. This wasn't nothing about fun. This was serious business.

And he laid yourself. No smile. Yeah. When the last time you seen R-Truth, not smile? You haven't.

Right. When he was TNA World Heavyweight Champion back in the day. Yeah, dude. Yeah. So It's serious business.

The pop was crazy. He got in, hit him with a spear, stood up, showed us that it was him. The electricity going through the building. He picks up the title, cracks John Cena across the head with the title, and then escapes like a thief in the night back into the crowd. And then, when I really love the detail, threw the belt out, threw the title out the ring.

You notice that? And I think that's so the referee wouldn't have seen that the belt. That's the detail out there. Little tiny things that only a veteran will get, man. Pro, bro.

Guys that you need to keep around in the locker room, you know, vets to help them coming up. They teach them this big controversy, TJ, whether or not it was a work or. Was there a backtrack? You know, everyone's got their opinion, right? I've got mine.

You got yours. I got mine. Everyone online's got theirs. People are wondering, was this a plan? Was it a work or was it the shoot?

Look, I don't know nothing, right? First and foremost. Yeah, I hear it from me. I'm just glad he's back. And here's someone else who I can tell.

Wasn't really sure what was going down, and that is the Miz. You see, the Miz. He zoomed into the Rich Eisen show last week. And I got to ask him. you know, what it meant to win money in a bank and his thoughts.

on the R-Truth situation. And and this is what this is what Mike the Miz had to say. about that. Can you just give us your thoughts and your memories of your former tag team partner, your former tag team champion? I've had some of my greatest moments in a ring with R-Truth.

winning the tag team titles, standing on a ladder. at WrestleMania. and literally hugging him and looking him in his eyes and be like, this moment is yours. Like, cause it was. We built that moment.

For our truth, and he is an amazing talent, not just inside the ring. But if you listen to any of his music on Spotify or Amazon, if you want to support him, definitely go and get his music because it's incredible. He's an incredible human being in the locker room, not just in the ring. And what you see outside the ring, he's a positive aura. And I don't think we've seen the last of our truth, Ron Killings.

I think that he's an immense talent. And we'll see. And I think the future is bright for him.

So there you go. He said, I don't. know what the future holds. Future is you guys are going to be back in that ring together pretty soon, man. Yeah, man.

And like, like. TJ Sam. Whether you believe it was a work. whether you believe it was a a wrong being corrected. The only thing that we know is that we get to see wrong killings.

in a WWE ring for the foreseeable future.

So whether you believe either side. The only thing that we know is the truth. His name is Ron Killings, and it's good to see you, brother. Hot down, no doubt. You know, it was just, it was that moment.

And There's very few moments in wrestling in a in a in a card like that that Is gonna, that will pop a whole crowd because obviously, some people like faces, some people like hills.

So, you know, people are gonna be rooting for different people. But there's one guy who we all were rooting for. And man, when the shyste came off and the hood came down, and he's sitting there looking, man, that was a legendary pop. And that's just one of those pops that everyone in the Intuit Dome, I'm sure, is gonna remember forever. Everyone watching is gonna remember this because it seems as though this was one of those moments where.

The company had to listen. And let's just say that. Let's take this this look at it. Let's just say that it was real, and he did get released, and they were going to let his contract expire. This is one of those few times.

Where they had to listen to the people. People always have something to say. And I gotta be honest, a lot of times I don't agree with what the people say because sometimes it's stupid. No offense, it just is. But this was one moment.

We're collectively the wrestling world united and was like, nah, man, there was a wrong and you better make this wrong right. And to their credit, I'm going to look at this and say this wasn't. A work. Yeah. I'm gonna say this.

He shoot got fired for real. And because of all of you people out there letting them know in the hashtags, the chance, it made them realize we did our brother wrong. Yeah, we touched the stone, we shouldn't have. Yeah, and we need to make this right. And that's how I'm going to choose to look at it.

I could be wrong. Maybe I'm getting worked. Maybe I'm the sucker. But I'm going to choose to believe that they heard us, they heard the people. And we're like, all right, we messed up.

Let's do this. And that is a kudos to the company for having the ear to even listen in the first place. It's nothing to be ashamed of. But I also know that there is a world where. like you said, you don't always listen to the crowd because if you let them know what type of power they have by doing said actions, sometimes it might not always go to a Sometimes you get Zaza Pachouli and the NBA all-star.

Oh, I completely forgot about it.

Well, you know, that's you. Yeah, like, you know, like, sometimes you got to take the power back a little bit.

So I get both sides. Either way, all I know is I get Ron Killings on my WWE TV, and that is what I'm happy about. And that, this is a gentleman's money in the bank.

So, just a great, you know, great night of wrestling. Two Former world champions holding briefcases, about to become champions again, we assume. We don't know which way they're going to go in. Where they're gonna go with it, but it's gonna be exciting, man. And I know you're a little upset with the one.

Yeah, I'm gonna trust the process. Yeah. Now, Shay, before we go, you know. On the Rich Eisen show, you know, the big show, people are starting to. Really understand and know that you and I are doing this wrestling podcast thing, right?

Okay. To the point where you know we've gotten WWE stars as guests who they've talked about the podcast, but now we're also getting friends of the show. callers, longtime Rich Eisen show callers who Are you really wanting to engage with this podcast?

Now, our guy, Manny, he calls in every now and then, and Manny's always great. He's always a great caller. He called in last week and he had a question for me. Which by proxy had a question for you as well.

Okay. And this is it. Two questions from my buddy TJ. Is a wrestling question.

Okay. Who's on your Mount Rushmore of Wrestling Managers? And Manny, as for the manager question, here's what we'll do Monday on the podcast.

So Shay and I will work that question into the podcast more of wrestling managers. And he's got to give it too. Yeah. Okay. You'll each do that on No Contest Wrestling.

And that'll be also post Money in the Bank. Yes, sir.

So you'll have lots to talk about on Mondays. Absolutely.

Okay. Look at TJ Jefferson. Money in the Bank. He just bought himself four days of thinking rather than four seconds of thinking and used it as a promo. I don't even know who he is anymore.

He's a professional rich. Oh, that was good, TJ. Thank you. Also, the conversation went further. Del Tufo gave me credit.

He said, TG is a professional, to which Rich said, I've been working with him all this time. He's still not a professional.

So hostile work environment. But yeah, my man Manny on El Paso, he's great. He's always got great comments, great questions for the show.

So he wanted to know out of nowhere what. Is on our Mount Rushmore of Wrestling Managers.

So I posed this to you, and you were down.

So let's give the people what they want. Let's let them know who is on our Mount Rushmore. What do you have, Mr. Jackson?

Well, first and foremost, I feel like this guy is going to be on both of our lists.

Okay. There's no way you have a Mount Rushmore And we've had him on the show, and he said that, you know, manager is such a, you know, it's beneath everything that he really does. But just for the sake of conversation, Paul Heyman.

Okay. Paul Heyman's got to be on Mount Rushmore. Absolutely.

Also, when I we do it back and forth, or you want me to just lay it out? Come and lay it out. All right. Next. Hmm.

When I think about myself and who I would want. Backing me up on the mic. It has to be somebody who will bring the same energy as me and, in some ways, can. Out ishtalk me, which is kind of hard to do. Come from a long line of ishtalkers.

I got to go with the million-dollar man, Ted DiBiasi. Oh, okay. Having him have my back. Whoa, and ain't nothing like a Nepal baby with somebody talking money with him. And he also is a Nepal baby.

His dad was a wrestler. And if you get in trouble, he'll just buy your way out of trouble. Which is the American way. Man, that is a good call there. Then, when I'm thinking about somebody loud and proud and doesn't care.

About your opinion, they're just gonna put what they want over. How could I go against the legend Jim Cornett? Come on, man. Man, Jim Cornette, Jim Cornette in my corner. That would just, it would be an unstoppable force, he and I.

And Jim Cornett likes you. He doesn't like a whole lot of people, I don't think. I found a video a few weeks ago where. You had made some comments about AEW, and Jim Cornette was loving everything you were saying. I was like, it was just constructive criticism, bro.

We need to get James-E. We know he doesn't travel. Yeah. Jim Cornette, we need him to zoom into the pod. That would be great.

And last but not least.

Now I'm going to dabble a little bit. And I gotta give a shout out to the ladies. Lord knows Shay loves shouting out the ladies. Yes, you do. And if I could think of somebody powerful enough.

with a uh a sharp enough bite And might also slap the shit out you. I gotta go with Stephanie McMahon. Wow. The power I would have. But Steph wasn't technically a man in the world.

Listen, bro. When I think of things like, hmm, you know. When I think of things like the authority, And I think about how powerful it was for somebody like Seth Rollins to have. Hmm. Okay.

Yeah, but no, no. Paul Heyman is what he needed. But anyway, yeah, so Stephanie McMahon. If I had Stephanie McMahon as my man, I mean, I could do nothing wrong. And, you know, the thing about Steph, it was almost unfair with Steph, right?

That's why. She had supreme power. Like, if you were a dude, she could come slap you, do whatever. You couldn't do nothing back. If you were a girl, she's a former women's champion.

She might be able to twist you up a little bit if you wanted to step to her. She with a pedigree? Steph was pretty much one of the most unstoppable forces because there's nothing really you could do to her. What are you going to do? I dare you.

Boy, I dare you. You want some time off? You get some time off. All right. I'm not mad at that.

I'm not mad at that. So, all right.

So, to give my list, I got to, you know, my list is a little bit more old school. Usually, that's how you and I do here. Yeah. I'm a little bit more old school in things, but I got to start off with quite possibly. the greatest manager.

Of all time. And the list of wrestlers that he's managed is like a who's who of talent from Andre the Giant to Nick Bockwinkle to Rick Roode to Ray Stevens. Another Bockwinkle drop. You know, Nick Bockwinkle boy. You know, Mr.

Perfect, Rick Flair. That's Bobby the Brain Heenan. Not only was he a world-class manager, not only was he world-class on the microphone as an announcer, but Nick Bockwinkle, I'll just say it again: Nick Bockwinkle once said: the thing about Bobby Heenan is, Nick Bockwinkle and Ray Stevens were one of the greatest tag teams of all time. And this is before Nick Bockowinko went on a decade-long run as AWA heavyweight champion. But he once said, Bobby can do what I do and what Ray does.

But Ray and I can't do what Bobby does. And I think that there says something because he didn't, you've only seen him, you know, when he was older, taking bumps in the weasel suit, getting thrown around by the warrior and Andre. But Bobby wrestled too.

So, you know, he was very at that and taking bumps and being in the ring. He could just do it all. And as a manager, you know L Little Bobby the Barry Heinous Snap Effect from Shea. Very first episode of Monday Night Raw. First wrestler you see is Bobby the Brandino.

Kicked it all off. Really? Because I knew you sectioned outside the building. Yeah, I was just watching. You were just watching the beginning of all.

All right, so I got Bobby the Brain Heenan, you know, like. Bobby was so good at being bad that he made The most universally loved wrestler alive, Andre the Giant, helped turn him into a hill to the point where people were throwing trash at them as they were making their way up and down the aisle wrestling. Ducking after they threw it. Only he didn't do that to Andre.

So that's why I've got Bobby there.

Now, you know, my next one. I couldn't decide between these two men because they came from the same time period.

So I had to give them both love. And that is a man I mentioned last week, Captain Lou Albano, and the fashion plate. Classy. Freddie Blassey. You know, when I was a little kid coming up watching wrestling, these were the managers, along with the Grand Wizard of Wrestling, who like they were your heel managers.

They had all the top heel guys in the company. They were all going after the champion, whether it be Bob Backlund, whether it be Hulk Hogan. It was always one of those guys who were managing. The Hills. And you, Captain Lou Albano, like I said last week.

15 different tag teams. He led to tag team championships. Four different men to singles titles. You know, 34 different wrestlers got gold. Uh with Captain Luel Bano.

You know, kind of steering their ship. He's the captain.

So I gotta put him there. And then you got classy Freddie Blassey, who was also one of uh one of the greatest hill wrestlers back in the fifties, sixties of all time. Spent a lot of time here on the West Coast. Once his career wound down, he became a manager, one of the most prominent figures in the WWF back then. And He also was the man who led the hated Iron Sheik To a victory.

Yeah. Ending the damn near six-year reign of the guy whose name I mentioned all the time, Bob Backlund. That was. The Ayatollah for Freddie Blassey. You know, from his gear, he was always dressed to the nines.

That's why he was classy to the amount of men, like in Hall of Famers, you know, Hulk Hogan, the Iron Sheikh. Peter Maivia, Nikolai Volkov, Adrian Adonis, Ray Stevens. Jesse Ventura, Dick Murdoch. The list goes on and on. Classy Freddie Blassey.

and Luol Bando. I've got them both there. And and and then third My third manager is a guy who didn't really make his bones in WWE. But everywhere outside of WWE knew this man, and that's Gary Hart. Gary Hart, one of the great minds in professional wrestling.

I used to do a lot of research on him. Managed later in his career, the great Muda, who is one of my all-time favorite wrestlers. You know, he was very big in WCCW. He managed gorgeous Gino Hernandez and the gentleman Chris Adams. You know, Dusty Rhodes and Dick Murdoch back in the day.

He managed them. Terry Funk, the great Kabuki in addition to Muda, Abdullah the Butcher, killer Tim Brooks. I mean, the list goes on and on. A lot of world-class championship wrestling out of Texas really kind of made his name there. He wasn't a big WWE guy, which is why I feel he doesn't get the respect, of course, you know, the props that he deserves.

Gary Hart is that guy for me. And fourth, you already named him. This man. His manage not one. Not too.

Not three. Not four. Yeah. You think I'm gonna stop? I ain't gonna stop.

No. No. Not five, but six. World champions. We call him an advocate.

They were managed. He was either an advocate. I was about to say, advocated for. Is that the right way? I guess so.

Six different world champions in addition to everyone else. We're led by this man, and that is Paul Hayman. Because of that, he has to have a role, a place on this Mount Rushmore. Yeah, bro.

Paul Heyman. I was having a hard time with the advocate word there. I don't know if you saw it. My mind was spinning. I'm like, is it advocate?

It is advocate. I thought you were drowning. I remember where I was caught in my mind. I was like, is that the right word? And they're searching.

So, if it looked like I was struggling there, folks, I was a little bit. Shout out to Manny. Manny from El Paso.

So Manny from El Paso, bro. Shout out to Manny. I really like that. That was a great question. And look, man, if you're out there, if you're watching the Rich Eisen show or you're watching this podcast, there's questions that you have, if there's lists that you want.

Let us know, man, because obviously we'll do them. Yeah, man. That, like we said, we're going to have to figure out another time to talk about Worlds Collide. We got to figure out a way to fight it for. We just don't have enough time in our show.

You know us, we get to rambling, bro. One day you'll have a three-hour podcast, but for now, we have to do it in a Rich Eisen studio. Right. TJ. Sure.

A bunch of telling people where to find us, bro. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Well, if you're looking for us to, you know, ask those questions or ask for those lists, hit us up on Twitter. We're at There's No Contest. You can follow us on Instagram and do the same thing, No Contest Wrestling Podcast. And of course, all of the videos you can find under this huge Rich Eisen Show umbrella, under the Rich Eisen Show, just pop that in there or type in No Contest Wrestling. will pop up.

For sure. Yeah, and um Advocate. Advocate, yeah. Before we get out of here, I just want to give a quick word. To the people out there watching our show, we like to joke around, but this is something on a personal level to me.

I lost somebody who I lost a family member. Uh just yesterday. Um I knew this kid, and he was a kid. I've known him since he was four. Five years old.

He was my daughter's cousin. My daughter's mother's nephew. And um Had a real hard time. Real hard time the other day because we lost him in a tragic accident. Uh when I'd say that I've I've known this kid forever.

Um I got him his his For sexbox, I I would watch wrestling him and his mom would tell me every time, uh, Fuck it. Felt good, man. You got it? They tell me anytime they saw me on WWE TV, anything like that. And uh 7.30 in the morning on on Sunday, I got word of his passing and it it's been It's been uh It's been pretty rough.

And the hardest part about it is the last time I saw him was Friday. Friday he swung by to Pick up my little girl from my house. Um You and I were on the phone. Yeah, we were on the phone. We were on the phone.

I was talking. We were talking about SmackDown, talking about the show. Talk about Julia. Yeah, shout out to Julia. And I told you, hold on, my daughter's cousin is here to get her.

And uh I saw him. Adapt them up. Hmm. Adapt a month. And I just remember telling him, hey, man, it's good to see you.

And my last words were something that he and I were known to do. And I said, I'm in here watching SmackDown. Those are the last words I got to tell him. And uh You don't know when it's anybody's time to go.

So if it's anybody in your life that You either haven't talked to in a long time or You feel like you Haven't told them enough. That's y you care about 'em or that's your You love them or even that you're thinking about them. Take the time today to do it because even though. Even though those are some cool last words to tell them. I wish I would have told him I love him.

I wish I would have gave you, bro. One more. And you just never know, you know, whether it be family members or friends you ain't talked to in a long time, man. Hit him, man. Hit him because Like that.

He was 19. Couldn't even have a drink yet. 19. And my man is My man is gone. He's still here, but I can't talk to him about wrestling no more.

You know And uh Just do that.

Sorry to end the show on a on a wild note, but I just want to dedicate this episode to my man Andrew. I love you. We all love you. Wherever you are, man, just know that you were loved. And Reach out today to somebody that you love.

Tell him you love him for your boy O'Shea Jackson Junior, please. We'll hopefully see you guys next week. Appreciate you for tuning in to the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. Uh Man, love you TJ, bro. Love you too, bro.

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