Reflected Glory 2

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So, how do we keep from losing heart while trying to find the good way when life feels more like a losing battle than something worth dying for? Grab your gear and come on a quest with your band of brothers who will serve as the guides in what we call the masculine journey. The masculine journey starts here now. Darrell Bock Welcome to Masculine Journey. We are glad that you're with us this week, and we are in the Christmas season.

Wow, that's amazing. It's already here. I know it comes every year, but it's already here.

It just seems like, well, you can tell because it's dark out like three o'clock in the evening now, and so it's really kind of hard to kind of get anything done these days. But very grateful for this season, and we're continuing the topic we started last week. Now, I didn't ask any of you before the show, but does anyone want to tell us what we were talking about last week?

Can anyone articulate that? Jim Steyer Each other. Darrell Bock Okay, well, that's part of it.

So Jim's out. Jim Steyer We were talking about each other's glory with a specific idea that each of us reflects God in a very unique way that sometimes we refer to as our special sauce, right? Anyway, the idea is that each person reflects God in this unique way.

And the cool thing is if you don't reflect it, nobody else can. And so when we see that in another individual, what's their unique way that they reflect God? If we can call that out, it's really a beautiful thing to find that in one another. And if you didn't have a chance to hear last week's show, I was just amazed, right, at how God has enabled us to have eyes to see it in each other.

And, I mean, I came away from that show just going, man, these people really, really love each other, love each other well. And to be able to call out somebody's glory is a wonderful thing to be able to do. Darrell Bock Yeah, it is.

It's an honor. God lets you see that and call that out. And it's hard for people to hear it sometimes, because that's the thing that's been most attacked in their life, usually.

That's the thing that they've been beaten on from the enemy, saying that you're not this, you're something opposite of that, right? And so, but we're going to get to our first person we're recognizing this week. And actually, that person is not sitting in this room, which is different.

He's sitting in the room through the other window. That would be our producer, Keith. And so this is a clip on Keith's glory. And so we're going to be playing the clip, and then we'll come back and talk about it. But this is a montage of some stuff Keith has done. And Keith has done some amazing stuff, which we'll talk about after the clip.

But this is some of the stuff from the Joyride, right? Robert, would you like to add something? Robert Chisholm The Great Kithini. Darrell Bock The Great Kithini. Robert Chisholm Yes. You know, it was really, really, to tell a little bit of the story. So Keith had been my producer on a Christian car guy show.

I've known him for a long time. Beth Ann, a marvelous talent of the Truth Network. Many of you know her. You know, she does Bible for breakfast. Anyway, she kind of called out Keith's glory.

You know, we talked about doing the Joyride, and she said, I got just the guy for that. It needs to be Keith. That he really has the skills to do that. And so she gave him the task, and oh, my goodness, did he rise to it. And you can tell, right, that there's a reason he's in radio. And if you can't hear the joy, I don't know what to say.

Darrell Bock Absolutely. And so we're going to play this montage of some different clips. And I'll talk about, you know, when we put it together, but it was harder to put together than you might imagine. There were so many good ones out there. So narrowing it down and trying to keep it around two minutes.

You notice I said around two minutes, it's a little over. Let's go ahead and play it. And then we'll come back and we'll all kind of share a little bit. You are now on the air with DJ EK.

Oh, the bathrooms are too far away. Hello to all the joy riders out there. You are rocking with DJ EK. Hey there, joy riders. I have one question and one question only for you. Who wants to have some fun? All right. If you want to have some fun and laugh a little bit, raise your hand. Huh? I can't tell if your hands are raised. Also, if you're listening, it is why you're driving.

Keep your hands on the steering wheel. You know what? I'll assume everyone wants to laugh and have fun. Otherwise, why would you be listening to a show called The Joy Ride?

Moving right along. If you've listened to The Masculine Journey for any length of time, you will notice the guys enjoy joking around and telling jokes. We're talking dad jokes, bad jokes.

I mean, so many bad jokes. I, the great Kefini, will juggle flame completely blindfolding while using only my non-dominant hand. Please remain calm. I repeat, please remain calm. The only way we're going to get through this together is we all keep our heads.

Hey, joy riders. It is I, the slightly singed, battered and bruised Kefini. And I'm talking to you from my local ER. Now, don't you find people worry?

Everyone made it out OK. Anyway, due to recent events, I'm not going to be performing for some time. Yeah, I need some time to heal up and regrow my eyebrows. You know, it's true what they say. You never know what you got till it's gone. Oh, let me tell you a story about a group of men.

You don't need enemies when they're your friends. You can hear them every week on your radio. I wrote a little song about a man. Here it goes.

A tune that is I'm off key, but who cares? They meet every week in the studio to talk about life and the things they know that Jesus is the truth and the life you see. So without him, there is no victory. Christ, that is son of God, our Lord. Oh, yeah, cut off a little bit there. But awesome, awesome, awesome. Good job. That was awesome. You know, we're all going to share whatever God lays on our heart. But you know, as I was listening through a lot of the joyride stuff, first of all, Keith, I've told you many times it's amazing. You do an amazing job with it. But you have a unique way of showing the creativity of God.

I mean, you really do. You're probably one of the most creative people that I've ever met just by listening to this. Just all the ways you find ways to bring unique and new spins in it and make it new every week. And I tell you, I listen to Joyride pretty much all the time. I don't always listen to our show because I was here. I don't have to listen to it, right? Well, I don't hear Andy talk anymore.

But yeah, I always listen to Joyride because I want to see what Keith did. How's he set it up? What's he pulled from the show?

How far back does he go? It's really pretty cool. And I love your creativity and your humor and your energy.

And I think that those are great reflections of God. Darrell Bock One thing I ought to kind of disclose, because there's probably people out there that are not familiar with the Joyride, that you're listening to the broadcast of The Masculine Journey. But if you were to listen to the podcast, especially if you subscribe to the podcast, we not only release the regular show every week, but you also have an after-hour show. But then Keith does sort of a montage of every week with obviously his skills added to it called The Joyride, which is a little short. And it makes you smile, makes you laugh, but also does what it sets it up to do. So if you hadn't heard The Joyride, oh, by all means, go listen to the podcast.

It's at masculinejourneyradio.org. Andy Yeah, it is. And it's usually, what, about three to four minutes. I think most weeks. There's no real set limit on it.

But it's right around that point. Darrell Bock And it's a fun show. Andy So if you hadn't heard the Joyride, oh, by all means. Yeah, go listen to the podcast. It's at masculinejourneyradio.org. Yeah, it is, and it's usually about three to four minutes.

I think most weeks, there's no real set limit on it, but it's right around that range, and it's entertaining every week. And so never know what he's gonna come up with, and so I enjoy it. Anyone else wanna share? Yes, before you can grab that, I'm probably the least likely to listen to any podcast, including ours. And I probably went four or five months hearing these guys talk about Joyride, how great it was, before I said, okay, I guess I better go listen to it.

And another thing is, I would have been ADHD, but they didn't have that diagnosis when I was a kid. But keeping my attention is difficult. I listened probably to all, well, I did listen to all of the broadcasts in a three-hour session in one day, and loved it. And it's, if you don't wanna listen to the whole show, and you're like, man, you can't pay attention that long, you can listen to that and get half the show. Yeah, get a snippet, you know, from it. Yeah, just remember, when we started saying, we're gonna have this thing, and they're gonna do something, and they're starting to talk about names, and it's Joyride, and it's like, masculine journey and Joyride, it just didn't seem to go together. I remember we were all throwing out other options, this and that, and it's like, I'm so glad they didn't go with ours.

Yeah, absolutely. It's like, oh, that was not a good idea. But what I really like is that when I go and listen to the Joyride, I'm like, oh, that's a better clip, why didn't I think of that one? Or a bump, or as the songs, because he picks better stuff than we do a lot of times. And I'm like, man, I just need to go through, filter through him, and just say, hey Keith, can you get me my clip, because I'll use yours. They're so good, and that's where, again, it was just one of those things we didn't, like when Keith first started doing the show, with like, just kinda getting to know him.

And then he just really, he's part of the group, he's just on the other side of the glass. And that's the one thing, listeners, if you wanna, you know, do anything, just keep bugging Keith to say, hey, you need to get to a boot camp. Because we, so we wanna see him out there. We get to see him every week, but we'd love to see him out there as well.

The disadvantage you have in the podcast is, you don't get to see his smile like we do. Keith is just a very, a brilliant individual. And we love being able to see him, and share the time. Yeah, if you guys, Keith does all the heavy lifting. Just to be honest, he takes our clips, and he fixes them, you know, puts them in the right format. He does that every week, he gets them loaded for us. He censors stuff that sometimes, you know.

Thank you. People don't get censored out. He makes sure that we stay, you know, where we need to be, to say it that way. Staying on the radio? Yeah, he does all the heavy lifting, and does all the stuff behind the curtain. He would be the Wizard of Oz behind the screen, making all the things happen. Yeah, I think what I heard Rodney saying, and I think we're gonna adopt Keith into the Band of Brothers, right? Well, yeah, he's in it. Well, I know, but it's official, you know, after all this, but to your point, the contributions looks like he picks great clips, and that stuff he comes up with. You were talking about it, the creativity. Yeah, perfect for the group, and you think about how we've talked about how God's assembled us. Well, I think he brought us the perfect producer for the show. Yeah, and you know, it's already been mentioned, you know, the creativity, which is a reflection of God, and his, I love what you said, Sam, behind the scenes stuff, not just probably for us.

I got a feeling he does other stuff, but you know, the guy who has a snippet of the joy ride that we're talking about, but yet all the stuff that he does that is unseen, and you think about all the things God does that's unseen, and so that is reflective glory, I think. We appreciate you, Keith. Yeah, one other last little bit, that if, you know, the Christian car guy in 18 years, I've had probably 20 producers, right? Think about how many years, God's done this.

It's the only show I know on the Truth Network that has had the same producer for any length of time. Well, we're very grateful. And he's been here all the time. We'll talk with you after the break. How did God remind you who you were at boot camp?

Oh, in so many different ways, from beginning to end. You better expect God to show up, because he's gonna show up. If you give him the time, he's gonna show up big at this boot camp. It's so important to me that I'm gonna drive 550 miles to get there. You can spend three days laughing with your brothers, fishing, shooting, it don't get no better than that. And then you're given time to spend time with God, and he will talk to you, with the brothers, friends, the things that you're taught, and the things that you think about. Just amazing experience all the way around. It is a tight bond of men, everybody's the same, and each and every time that I've come to boot camp, I've learned something different.

And not one man that's ever been there neglects not to take time out to talk with the sheriff. It's serious business, and you need to come one time and break bread with the men, and fellowship, feel the atmosphere, hear the people pray, and get down to earth about what's going on in life, and get real. Register today at masculinejourney.org. The word of God speak, would you pour down like rain, washing my eyes to see, your majesty, to be still and know, that you're in this place. Please let me stay and rest in your holy hands. Welcome back to Masculine Journey.

It is third day, and show me your glory. No, word of God speak. Sorry. That was last week's book.

Last week. Yeah. This is mercy me, word of God speak. So yeah, I got to get that one right. So sorry about that. But yeah, that was, wow. I have to listen to the song next time.

Word of God speak by mercy me. Well, we are back, and we're talking with Danny now about our friend Kenny. So you want to share a little bit about Kenny?

Yeah. I was glad I got Kenny. He's a great guy.

And it was tough. But I had to do a clip that had to do with music because Kenny's a musician. And so the clip will be from a song, obviously. But you know, I love this topic with glory because it has changed the way I pray for people. It's changed the way I look at people. And you know, having to look at, you know, one of my band of brothers and go, okay, what is his glory?

What does it see in that, so we can play the clip and then we'll talk about it on the other side. Well, it's all showing a little kindness. And what I see in Kenny is just a kind person. And that's not just just a good guy. And I made some notes, but the that he is kind to everyone. And when you hear him talk, he's always talking about where they went and did something for another ministry or something. So just his kindness and you know, in in where Paul talks about the fruit of the Spirit, that's one of the fruits of spirit is kindness. And that's where I seen that in Kenny, because he's always given and he's always, you know, at boot camp, he's always coming up with him talking, Well, yeah, I was talking to so and so over here, and he's got this going on, and we need to pray for him or, so he's always got somebody needs other than his own, in mind. And it's just just a beautiful thing. I mean, and Lord, he's given away enough guitars, we can start a band. I think. So yeah, I've got one. And you know, then he gave me that birthday.

He said, let me go out of the car and get you. He needs to be giving away lessons is what he needs. Yeah, yeah. The is just a showpiece at my house, I guarantee that.

But that's the thing. His musical talents and his, you know, in the way he worships, but his worship is his kindness most of the time. So yeah, for Kenny, for me, you know, when Jesus tells us to love one another, right? I Kenny loves others well. It's pretty apparent from the people he's brought to the show, the people he's brought to boot camp, that he has a heart that is huge, you know, and compassion for people that definitely just screams, you know, God's in me, you know, and it's coming out of me, and I'm loving on others through it. And it's, it's really cool to watch and it's really inspiring. And you guys actually just kind of need to step up your game because Kenny's brought more people to the station and to the boot camps, I think most of us. So we all got to kind of step up our game. He's done a great job with doing that. Well, my mom raised me, Sharon is caring.

Yeah. And I tried to pass it on to my family and our kids and, you know, and part of I learned from the people around me, the mentors that God put in my life, I had men step into my life and really helped me through the humps and the bumps because we all go through them. And we, you know, especially, you know, at boot camp and all, we don't know what these men are going through, but we want to encourage them that God is the answer. Christ is the answer. He's that strength that helps me through every day. And it's helped me through a lot of different challenges in life. And if I don't share Christ, what am I sharing? If I'm not sharing that love, what am I sharing?

You know, Jesus, you know, I was challenged. Jesus said, you're with me or against me, you're gathering or scattered, you know, to me, you know, that's that part of really becoming that disciple, of taking my cross daily and following Him. And, you know, I know there's a song out, it's about, you know, us being His hands and His eyes and sharing that heart, you know, being really an ambassador to all. But thank you guys because I appreciate the opportunity to well be a part of this band of brothers because y'all help and make it so much easier to share Christ because that's y'all's hearts too.

It's really helped the wounded people around us to come to Christ and all. And I think going on, you know, I've got the next one coming up. I got Jim to, you know, I was asked to, you know, and Jim, he's been kind of a hard guy to know because he's a traveling man. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah. I got to talk about you first. Yeah, we were done with you. You were just cutting us off and we weren't quite done with you. But since everything is all about me, I appreciate that. I first met him going on the prayer around the camp and one of those guys that you just immediately love and see Jesus in and I won the lottery because he's doing me. Most of you I was afraid of. Yeah, you have me.

I'm really scared. That's why he was putting it off. Andy. Yeah, I mean, I just echo everything Sam said and Jim. It's just, you know, Robby started talking, I mentioned this a few weeks ago about replication at the last boot camp and you really see that with Kenny. Not only did he bring those that you mentioned, Sam, but then those others are talking about going out and bringing others as well and it's true multiplication. But it's that heart that he has and just like you said, it's coming out of him, it oozes out of him.

Jesus oozes out of him and it's cool to see because just how it is. And then when he brought his son Chuck, that was also a great blessing. I don't really remember Chuck. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I do remember. He just hadn't been here in a while.

All the people I brought to the team are gone now. But it's just a generous heart too in how he has given out. I thought it was a great idea the first time he brought the guitar and had it signed and handed out. I thought we were like one and done and he's done it every boot camp since. It's just his generosity.

It's just the heart of God that's in him. Go ahead, Harold. Well, I get more than you guys. His bones are creaking. You hear that?

Yeah, you hear his bones creaking as he's trying to reach the mic. I get more than you guys because Kenny also shows up at our Thursday morning meeting with Robby there at the Brock Center in Mocksville. And what I would say that is different from what's been said before is, my wife loves him and she's not easily fooled. So that, to me, says a great thing about the man. You fooled her. Yeah. Yeah, you couldn't hear that from the back, but Robby said you fooled her, so you know, it was smart. He's a really smart guy.

Yeah, he is. Well, we don't really have time to get to another person. So what I want to do the last little bit is help our listeners say, okay, how do you look for the glory in someone else? Right?

Maybe it's someone you work with, or maybe it's somebody that, a friend of yours, or maybe it's your kids. You know, what a great thing to try to do for your children, right? For your spouse, for your siblings, or whoever it might be to pray and say, God, help me see your glory in them and help me have the words to call it out.

Right? So what's some things that they can do to kind of, to do that? I mean, obviously pray, right?

But is there anything else that they could do to try to find that glory? Any thoughts, guys? Stop and listen.

Yeah? Yeah, you know, that's part of it. You're just spending that time being with them and, you know, let people be themselves. That's one thing y'all encourage.

Just be yourself. You know, and that way we get our guards down and really, because a lot of us, like you said, Satan attacks them strengths that God's put in us because he don't want them to come out because that reflection of Christ, he does not want people to see that light or that love or that compassion, he does not want to see that. Or even just the fruit of the Spirit, that true love, joy, that peace, that patience, that people sometimes hide because of the woundedness of life and all.

Thank you. And I'll piggyback on what Kenny said, you know, if you look for the warfare around them, and that's one of the things that has been in this season of my life with somebody in my life that I love dearly, and having to pray for them, but changing my prayers to Lord help me see their glory and pray for that, but looking at the warfare around them because that's going to reflect on what their glory is. Because Kenny's right, you know, Satan don't want that to be reflected because then you're seeing God in the world, so that's kind of the deal. And really look for the best because if you're looking for God, he's going to be the best, so you look for the best, but a lot of times we have a tendency to look for the worst, and that's what we tend to focus on, and that can obscure that other stuff, and you do have to look past that. It's not your default a lot of times, particularly if that person, maybe they have that glory, but through that hurt, all you see is all this junk oozing out, and you get that. If you stay there, you'll never be able to point out the glory, so you've got to look past that, and also try to remember, I think, is if they're really truly hard to see those things than somebody else, is just to remember what it was like, because we've all been there, where things aren't going well, and we're fighting back to the rest of the world and stuff, and just to really look at the good in people. And Andy danced around what I was going to say, but I'll try to be succinct.

I like to dance. If I can be more succinct than anybody, it will be Andy. We tend to see what we expect to see or what we want to see, and if you are looking for God in people, you'll see God in people. If you're looking for the enemy in people, you'll see the enemy in people, and it really is what you're expecting, and if you change your expectations, you'll find God.

You guys are all right. The only thing I would probably add to that, too, is also realize they're probably hiding it because it's been so abused. If you've ever been around a dog that's been rescued that's been abused, it takes a lot of time to let them know it is safe. It's okay before they'll let you pet them, before they'll come up and give you their belly to where you can rub their belly, because they're going to protect themselves, and that's what people are doing.

They're out there protecting themselves, saying, no, I don't even want to go near that road because it's been so brutal on my heart. Being able to call that out, and it is tough on the people you're closest to, because you've also got to be around them. It's hard to do that, but being able to walk with God in and say, God, please help me see it. What I'd encourage you to do this week is to walk with him and say, God, give me one person and give me a nugget of your glory in them that I can call out, and give me the words to call it out. I promise you, it'll probably be the best Christmas present they get. This year, it's one they'll remember the longest, if not the best. We'll talk with you next week. Love somebody well this week. This is the Truth Network.