Do Jews Hate Christians? (And Answers to Your Questions)

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. Phone lines are open. I'm going to take questions on all subjects like I normally do on Friday. We've had some shows that have been pre-recorded, some critically important content we've been putting out, or just wall-to-wall teaching content, news commentary, so we haven't taken calls.

But phone lines are wide open. 866-348-7884, 86634-Truth. I absolutely welcome calls that relate to recent content where I've talked about God's purposes for the Jewish people and how Jew and Gentile together in Jesus are equals and are one. Or my commentary on the broader war of Israel against Hamas and some of the related issues of Jew hatred worldwide.

Very happy to take calls on those subjects, clarify any questions that come up, address certain concerns that come up. I have been asked quite a few times if I plan to respond to Jeff Durbin on apology or radio making comments about who a true Jew is or who real Israelites are and how Israel today fits in with prophetic promises. Jeff and I don't know each other well, but we are colleagues.

I honor and respect him. He is very close with my dear friend James White, Dr. White, and I reached out to both of them privately so that I did have some concerns about the broadcast. One of my staff members, or actually it was a colleague, gave detailed quotes and outlined for me the content of the show. Jeff is absolutely in the midst of some very critical prayer situations with children in his family, etc. adopted babies, so he's super busy, replied very graciously, so we may not be able to interact privately for some time. But in a spirit of camaraderie, not in the spirit of debate, not in the spirit of rebuke or anything like that, but in the spirit of camaraderie for the good of the body, I'm hoping actually to play some clips from his show and then to address them again, not to have a debate with some of us not present, but to address in a constructive way. I did have some interaction with folks involved with the cessationist movie. Let's just say it was not the most positive interaction, but there is a brother who was involved with the cessationist movie I believe donated towards it, but was certainly involved in helping put it together or getting it going.

A good brother, he and I have had some excellent private discussion about a good, formal, solid, full-length debate about the gifts of the Spirit for today, so I'll mention his name once we really lock things in, but a good brother, good spirit, so that's very, very positive. As we move forward, let's bring things together, let's put them on the table, let's do it in a way that glorifies the Lord. Also, I want to give you a quick update, and then we'll get to the phone shortly, on my participation in American Gospel 3. Some of you have no idea what American Gospel 3 is because you don't know about American Gospel 1 or 2, but American Gospel 1 and 2 were very, very widely watched documentaries put together by Brandon Kimber, a very sincere young Christian man, where he critiqued areas of real concern in the American Gospel, especially in contemporary charismatic circles, Word of Faith circles, etc. And I watched part of the first movie and said excellent rebuke of certain things and goes way too far on other things. Those who've watched it in detail said that that would be my conclusion of the whole.

In any case, American Gospel 2, I didn't see any of that or very, very little of that. And then Brandon reached out to me very graciously, well, it's like a year ago, I think almost a year ago, and said they're going to be doing American Gospel 3, and he'd like my participation, and he knows I'm one of the few charismatics that engage his critics, so he wanted to ask me questions that critics would ask because he said he didn't want to put out Strange Fire 2.0, he wanted this to be a balanced critique where charismatics and non-charismatics could come together and critique Charismania and extremes, concerns that we shared together, etc. So I agreed to get involved right up front, I wasn't happy with the nature of questions that I was being asked, and he said, hey, these are the questions that critics ask, I said fair enough. And with his assurance that this was going to be balanced in a particular way, I agreed to participate. We ended up filming about four and a half hours of me answering questions directly, then I think about four hours of dialogue with Doug Givette and Holly Pivik, the lead critics of so-called NAR, and then probably three hours or three hours plus, Dr. Sam Storms and I together, dialoguing with Justin Peters and Jim Osmond.

As the series began to develop, this is a series of ten or twelve episodes, when I saw what Brandon was putting out, I was very upset with some of the content, I said you're maligning good people and misrepresenting things and using anecdotal illustrations, I could come up with any number of those people who have left almost every good church in America, you're going to have some people say how bad it was or the wrong things they learned there, etc. So I wasn't happy with the direction. Brandon and I went back and forth, he made great efforts as well, going back and forth with me on that, and saying we could do this, we could do that.

Ultimately, after some consultation with those close to me, I said I can't give my name to that, I'm sorry. And the written agreement from day one, the written agreement from day one, before we filmed a single moment of content, was that if I wasn't satisfied with where things were going with my participation, they would do their best to edit accordingly. If that would not take place, then I would withdraw and they would accept that.

So that's what happened. However, fear not, fear not. So I don't want my name attached in any way to AG3 because I feel what I've seen thus far, imbalanced, unfair, and maligning good people, what I was actually sent to look at thus far. That being said, by all means, I want much of the content I recorded to be available to everybody to see for free. So what we have gone back and forth on is the four plus hours of questions that are being asked directly about revival, about charismatic things, about the gospel, that that would be released free and unedited to the public. Hopefully they'll do it for free, that's their call. But unedited so everyone will be able to see that, all my content, all my answers to these various questions, and the three hour plus dialogue, roughly three hours, Dr. Storms and I with Jim Osmond and Justin Peters, that can be released in full.

I'm hoping it will be for free also, but that free, complete, full, unedited, 100%, we want that released to everyone to see. Brandon and I have not yet dialogued in depth about the interaction with Doug and Holly regarding so-called Nora, this boogeyman that's been created, this myth, this worldwide conspiratorial takeover Christian movement, as opposed to the real New Apostolic Reformation, which has issues I differ with, but that's a whole different animal. In any case, or let's just say one is something realistic that can be discussed, the other is this boogeyman that's been blown all out of proportion. In any case, we haven't discussed that in depth, but he has my written permission, it's clear, it's done, he has it, he can release it tomorrow if he wants. He's got a ton of editing, he's not going to be able to. So, I have deep differences with the way things happened, I feel that the way things were presented to me were misleading, otherwise I wouldn't have been part of it from the start. Brandon's perspective is that he was forthright from the start and that I may have misunderstood the intention, but he's never sought to deceive or mislead, so I 100% take him at his word that he did not intend to mislead me or deceive me. He said that emphatically, he's sincere about it, so I take him at his word that he did not intend to deceive or mislead. I can simply say for me and some of the others participating, what we agreed to participate in is different than the product that we were seeing coming out, and I've seen that consistently since the first version of the trailer that shocked me. And I've written to him plenty, I said this is Strangefire 2.0 on steroids. So, in any case, I trust his sincerity, let's say there was misunderstanding and we'll leave it there, I will not make an accusation I was intentionally misled or deceived, I don't believe that was his intent, so we'll just leave it there before the Lord. That's what happened, and I think it's good for you to know all the facts, but the deal is over seven hours of content that we recorded, including the really important, very candid, open dialogue, respectful dialogue with Justin Peters, Jim Osmond, Dr. Storms and me, we've said, hey, release that, all parties involved have said release that in full, unedited, so God willing, that will get out.

Okay, one last thing, and then we go to the phones. I'll often see posts about Christians and Jews. I'll often see posts saying, well, Jews hate Christians. Jews hate Christians.

And I'm wondering where do people get that idea? Well, I saw in Israel, Jews spitting at Christians. Okay, so there are fanatics in every religion and every faith. There are extremists in every religion and every faith.

What you have to do, as one rabbi urged some years ago, don't compare the best of your faith with the worst of someone else's faith, compare equally honestly. How many wacko Christians are there? How many wacko atheists are there? How many wacko Muslims are there? How many wacko evangelicals are there?

Catholics are there? Every group, all right? So the question is, what's the response of the larger group and what's the reality? The response of the larger group in Israel, for example, leading chief rabbi repudiating this and saying it is absolutely wrong, the prime minister himself of Israel repudiating this, saying it's wrong, and Israelis in general, in particular the government, realizing that the best friends they have in the world are evangelical Christians. Prime Minister Netanyahu saying some months back that preaching the gospel will never be banned in Israel and having a respect for Christianity. And then just in America, okay, Dennis Prager, a friend of mine, Dennis Prager, one of the most prominent Jewish voices in America. A dear friend of Christians, Ben Shapiro.

I'm just mentioning two of the biggest best-known Jewish names in America. Do they hate Christians? Does your average American Jew hate Christians?

No. In fact, I just did a poll out of curiosity on Twitter in light of claims about different groups hating each other. If you're a Christian and live and work with Jewish people, what's your relationship?

Very friendly, nothing unusual, hostile, them towards you, hostile you towards them. So, those who said they're Christians and live and work with Jewish people, 58.4% said their relationships were very friendly, 36.2% said nothing unusual, just like anybody else, 4.7% said hostile toward me, so less than 1 in 20 said the person was hostile toward them, Jewish people, and less than.08%, so barely 1 in 100 said that they were hostile towards Jews. These are obviously people's personal opinions and experiences, but Jews and Christians work side by side in America, all over the world. So, yes, you do have very religious Jews who believe that Christians hate them, have persecuted them through the centuries, and trace a straight line from the New Testament to the Holocaust. They can be hostile to Christianity.

But your average Jew hating Christians? Where'd you get that from? It's not true. It's a myth. Goodbye to it.

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Yes, Dr. Brown. For about two, and I don't know how, but about two and a half months ago, all of a sudden, I started having truth of thought. I don't know how it started, but I have feared them incredibly.

So I want to know if you have any advice to get rid of them. Can they be forgiven? What do I do? So, yeah, thanks for calling and asking such a personal question. Explain in a little bit more depth what kind of thoughts these have been. They've been not good thoughts about God. And I'm a Christian.

I'm a believer. I don't know how it started, but they just, like, develop. And I don't know if it's my own brain. I don't know if it's from the enemy.

I don't know if I'm so scared that I keep doing it. I don't know. Right, so, okay. Let me ask you this.

Who is the person calling me with concern right now? Is this the real you? Yes. Yes, okay. When you talk to the Lord and say, Lord, I don't know where these are coming from, is that the real you? Yes.

Okay. So the real you is concerned about attacks coming against your mind or random thoughts popping into your mind, which either have as their source spiritual forces. The Bible talks about the flaming darts of the evil one in Ephesians 6. So the enemy trying to attack our minds. They can be random thoughts from our own unrenewed brain, which we're still in these human bodies with an unrenewed brain that we are renewing through the gospel. They could be just part of the general worldly environment we're in, you know, just like if someone hears profanity all the time that may replay in their minds. But what you have to do is not even give thought to the thoughts, meaning it has nothing to do with you. The moment one of those thoughts hits, I wouldn't even respond to it. I wouldn't rebuke it.

It's like swatting flies. I just praise the Lord. Lord, you're good. You're mercy.

You don't believe this. Lord, I worship you. You hate God. Jesus, I would just praise, worship, and at a certain point, they'll just diminish and go away. To give place to them is to dignify them in a way that's completely wrong. And again, if the evil thoughts were who you were, then you wouldn't be concerned.

You'd be giving yourself over to that. So, just rejoice. Praise God. If you get bombarded as you're reading the Word, just read it out loud and ignore it. And soon enough, those things will dissipate and disappear.

Okay, well, another thing. When I read the Word, I get scared. I get scared I'm in trouble. Like, I feel like God could be mad at me. Alright, mad at you because? I'm having, like, negative thoughts.

Right, right. But the negative thoughts are not from you. Look, Paul in Romans 7 talks about what dwells in his flesh, and there's nothing good in it. Romans 7 and 8. And says that he's carnal, sold into sin. So, in our human nature, if we give place to that, that's fallen, that's evil.

But God knows who you really are. And do you have any case? No, sir. Not yet.

Okay. Or not at all. Okay, so, you know, if you're raising a child, then you realize sometimes, you know, it's a little baby and they're screaming and crying. It's like, it's not them.

They're teething or they're overtired or, you know, you get to know your kid well enough. Versus, alright, my child just did something really bad and has to be punished. So, this is not who you are and God knows who you are. If I can speak to you candidly and without question about these things, a trillion, billion, infinite times more, God can.

And He knows you, so you take comfort in that. I would just read over and over passages about the goodness of God, the love of God. I would read passages like Psalm 103 out loud. I would read 1 John out loud.

And I would just, with my mouth, confess what I know to be true, that God is good, that He loves us, that we're His children. Yeah, and that, again, don't give any place to these thoughts. They're not from your heart. They don't proceed from your innermost being in terms of who you are.

They're either attacks and lies from the enemy or just remnants of our unrenewed mind, but that's not who we are. You know, it's just like a married man who loves his wife dearly and some scantily clad, attractive young woman comes walking by. He glances at her for a second and maybe a thought comes in his mind, you really need to look at her, you want her. It's like, he doesn't want her. If he wanted her, he'd leave his wife and go with her.

The fact that he looks away and just like the fact that this bothers you is indicative that it's not who you really are. So, Lord, we thank you for your daughter. We just pray for your holy confidence in her life.

Bathe her afresh with your love, and may she give no place, even for a split second, to the lives of the enemy. Hey, God bless you, Ray, thank you for calling. Thank you, Dr. Payer, thank you, bye-bye. Alright, bye-bye. 866-348-7884, we go to Roy in Helena, Montana, welcome to the line of fire. Well, thank you for taking my call.

Sure. This, I have a question in Jeremiah, it has been budding me for months and months and months, and I'm sure you can give me clarity on it, but I'm not getting it at all. Where Jeremiah says, do not trust in these deceptive words, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord are these.

Dude, I'm not getting it at all. Right, to tell you what, for some reason, Roy, you're cutting in and out, but I did hear your question, it's about Jeremiah 7. Don't trust in these deceptive words, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord are these, probably meaning these buildings. What it was, was the people in Jerusalem thought we're obviously okay, no matter what sin we're committing, the people of Jerusalem and Judah, no matter what sin we're committing, no matter what evil we're doing, hey, the temple is still standing. And that means God is in our midst, and if God is in our midst and the temple is standing, then he is with us, and God's saying, no, no, no, the temple's about to be destroyed. God's presence is withdrawing because your sin is driving it away, and judgment is about to fall on you if you don't repent, and these very buildings are about to be destroyed. So, all that is, is an example of the ongoing long suffering and mercy of God, that he didn't wipe Israel out, Judah out, when they deserved to be wiped out. And that the temple was still standing, and yes, you know, it's almost like a church that has fallen away from the Lord in compromise, but they say, hey, look, we still have good attendance and good giving. Well, maybe for a little while, but once people really understand what's being taught and preached and the false doctrines and the dangerous deception, then they're going to get out of there. And then soon enough, that building's going to be abandoned because you can't pay the rent or the mortgage, and before you know it, that empty building's going to be a sign of reproach. So, they were putting their trust in the physical temple standing as if this was a sign of the favor of God and the presence of God in their midst.

After all, the northern kingdom, they were exiled by God, and there was destruction there, but the temple's still here, God's still preserving us, and Jeremiah's saying, false hope, false assurance, and soon enough, even that is going to be destroyed in front of your eyes. All right, we will get back and take more of your calls. I think we've got a line, yeah, one line open 866-348-7884 when we come back on the other side of this important announcement. Friends, thanks for standing with us. These are critical days. A colleague just emailed me and said, Mike, your voice is more needed than ever at this time. We're here for such a time as this, we're making a difference, and we're not going to back down, we're not going to shut down, we're not going to compromise, we're going to speak the truth in love. Hearts of compassion, backbones of steel, come on, let's stand up together and make a difference. We'll be right back.

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Brian, you are on The Line of Fire. Hey, how you doing, Dr. Brown? Very well, thank you.

Doing well. Yeah, my question is, I've been hearing this a lot with Israel and everything going away. First of all, I'm shocked by all the hate that has surfaced for Israel, but my question is, I've heard a lot of people, a lot of Christians especially saying, almost like it's a replacement theology, like the modern Israel is not the same Israel from the Bible. There's like a politicized version of Israel now, and that's not what the Bible is talking about, so it's almost like they're saying we don't need to pray for Israel, which I don't believe is right.

Now, I don't really know how to answer that because a lot of Israel is politicized right now, but I don't think that finishes their significance whatsoever. And then, you know, I guess kind of a two-part to that question is like, three different religions came out of that area out of one person, all claiming to be the right one. Now, I'm a Christian, so I believe in Jesus, but how is it that three different religions came out of one person, all claiming to be true, all from the same area?

And, I mean, how do we bring that up together? Let me answer the second question first. The real question is, who is Jesus, and is the New Testament true? The other question is really secondary. In other words, why from one region or, you know, it's just like asking, well, why did both Buddhism and Hinduism come out of India?

It's an interesting question, but that's really not the issue. The issue is, what is truth? And if Jesus, in fact, is the one who fulfills what was spoken and promised to Israel, and the one who brings redemption to the entire world, then we would see that Judaism is the foundation but failed to embrace what God did through the Messiah, and that Islam is a subsequently formed religion that rejects in a different way what God did through the Messiah. As for the common roots, well, you could say it all came from Abraham, and he is the father of many nations in many different ways. So, first and foremost, through the people of Israel and the millions that have come from there. Second, from all who believe in him, in Jesus, become spiritual children of Abraham. And then thirdly, even more widely, through Ishmael, that the Muslim world is descended from him.

So, it's just part of what God calling a man and everything that comes out of him in human development and in divine development. As for modern Israel today, of course, we've addressed this many, many times over the years, and I appreciate you raising it again. Old Testament Israel was political. Israel in the days of Jesus was political. The fact that it's a political or politicized state in no way negates it from being the fulfillment of prophecy or part of what's written in scripture. In other words, political Israel, well, Israel was always political. It was a kingdom, it was a nation when God brought the Jewish people back to the land.

They were under others politically, then they were free politically. So, that has nothing to do with prophecy. The question is, are these, broadly speaking, the descendants of those whom God scattered 2,000 years ago and then over the subsequent centuries? The answer is yes, of course.

We know that. And these are Jewish people who by and large are not believers in Jesus. They are ultimately physical descendants with intermarriage along the way and conversion along the way. Physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the tribes of Israel. And if God scattered them, he's the one who brought them back. So, you just have to ask people, does God mean what he says? When he says to these people, you say, who are the ones he scattered? Well, these people.

Okay. He scattered them in his anger. He said, I will regather you in my mercy. Who are those people? The people he scattered, are they the ones he regathered?

Yeah. Well, how did he regather them? Just as he said, he scattered them, he regathered them. If you say, well, he scattered them in judgment, he's going to regather them, he scattered them physically, he'll regather them spiritually.

That's nonsense. It's making God into a double talker. Well, he scattered the Jews in his anger, he's going to regather the church in his mercy.

Again, you're making the words completely devoid of meaning. Not only so, but if God scatters in his wrath, no one can regather. No one has the power to regather.

The very fact that we have been regathered means that God has done it. And then you have to ask people, well, why does it say that in the Bible, Jesus is coming back to Jerusalem? Why does Jerusalem matter if there's no more Israel?

If it's just some abstract city in the Middle East? And why does it say in Zechariah 12 and Zechariah 14 that all the nations will come against Israel? And come against Jerusalem specifically? Because there's going to be worldwide hostility against Israel and the Jewish people, and then Yeshua will return and rescue them.

So, this is what's written. How have we been regathered if God didn't regather us? Why is Jesus coming back to Jerusalem if there's no significance to it? Why are all the nations going to gather against Israel? And why is there so much world hostility against Israel and the Jewish people right now?

If not for this being the plan of God. So, those are the different ways I'd address things. I really encourage you to check out some of our recent broadcasts and articles. So, at AskDrBrown.org or on the app, ASKD or Brown Ministries.

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Is God a Zionist? I think that'll be a real eye-opener. Alright, let us go over to Bob in Maryland.

Welcome to the line of fire. Hi, Dr. Brown. This is a nutrition and scripture question. I believe I've heard you say that you avoid bread and dairy products. I may be mistaken about that. Yeah, no dairy, no flour, and no sugar.

Yep. Okay, bread and milk or dairy seems to be spoken of very positively, consistently in the scripture, so I'm just wondering if you'd help me understand. Yeah, so here's where I have to confess my weakness, Bob. My wife Nancy, for many, many years, studied nutritional issues, read voraciously, listened to doctor after doctor, nutritionist after nutritionist, and then really locked in on the writings of Dr. Joel Fuhrman, F-U-H-R-M-A-N. Joel Fuhrman, who became very well-known with the bestseller, Eat to Live, and his books since then have been bestsellers. Joel Fuhrman, F-U-H-R-M-A-N. So, I follow his guidelines. He emphasizes G-bombs, greens, beans, onions, mushrooms, berries, seeds, and no dairy, no flour, no sugar, very low sodium content, et cetera.

Nancy really studied, understood the issues, and then said, okay, when I told her I had to make a change a little over nine years ago, and she said, okay, you're going to eat this, you don't eat this. So, I can't even tell you why I eat certain things and not other things because I haven't studied it a lot. So, the best thing to do, rather than be giving you some lame answer, and I'm just being totally straight with you, is search online, Dr. Fuhrman, F-U-H-R-M-A-N, and say why no dairy, et cetera, all right, any of the questions that you have. I mean, there are all kinds of issues about flour and white flour and issues like that, so I'll have things with sprouted grains.

Some of the things have to do with differences in the way things are produced today versus in the biblical world or quantities used or things like that, but rather than talking for three minutes as if I know what I'm talking about, better if you search there. If you still have a question, then you can shoot us a follow-up right to the website, and then we'll get you a direct response. I'll ask Nancy to weigh in. So, Dr. Fuhrman, F-U-H-R-M-A-N, and ask, you know, why no dairy, why no bread, and I think you'll get some really clear answers, and then you can compare that to, you know, people talk about the Ezekiel diet and what did he actually eat, or, you know, Ezekiel bread, I use Ezekiel bread for buns for a veggie burger or things like that, so maybe that'll answer some of the questions. So, I apologize for my ignorance on the nutritional end.

I do live it out. I just can't answer the question. So, let me know if you get the good data, okay? It's working, right? All right. Well, great. So, yeah, I was going to do my best to answer, and I thought, it's going to be so lame.

It's going to be so lame. Send them somewhere. People say to me, oh, how do you get carbs? It's like, what are carbs?

To the exact extent that I live this out scrupulously, in detail, conduct myself in a rigorous way to eat and live healthily with massive joy and benefit, it's to that equal extent that I don't know the nutritional data. All right, let's go to our buddy Jeff in Maryland. Welcome to the line of fire. Good afternoon, my beloved Dr. Mike Brown. Hey.

You know what? I'm not going to ask you any nutritional questions, even though I should, but I'm not going to incriminate myself. So, I'm just going to relieve myself of that conversation. And I wanted to – I've been wanting to talk to you for a minute about what is happening in Israel and maybe speak on a particular area of Romans that I don't know we really look that deeply at. And if we believe that 2 Timothy 3 says that all Scripture – all Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable to bring us reproof and correction, for instruction, and for the whole purpose of perfecting us, I mean, that we have what we need out of Scripture. I go there because you have elaborated extensively on the 9th, 10th, and 11th chapters of Romans to help people to understand that you cannot dismiss Israel from the plan of God.

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They can never have it. This is how we rise up. All right, friends. Welcome back to the line of fire, 866-348-7884. Back to my friend Pastor Jeff in Maryland. All right, so you were saying 2 Timothy 3, 16, and 17 indicate that all scripture is given for us by divine inspiration so we can be thoroughly equipped so the man of God can be thoroughly equipped, teaching, preaching, leading. So you want to tie this in with God's promises to Israel and how Christians should stand with this show today. So the floor is yours.

Yes, sir. So I go there because if we say that that scripture is true, all scripture is inspired, then we need to understand that, I think just before we got cut off, I was talking about how you've elaborated on chapters 9, chapters 10, chapter 11 out of Romans that Paul's admonition to us was you cannot separate Israel from the promises that God has made to them. So it was such a big deal to Paul, and there's a whole lot I'd love to say about that, but I want to get to this. If this is still the same inspired man, he comes into chapter 12 and he says one of the, I would say one of the more favorite scriptures that every Christian uses, you know, I beseech thee, therefore, brother, by the mercies of God that you present your body as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service, and be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. But he starts off by saying, I am begging you, therefore, and we all heard this before, but what is it therefore there for? It is there because of the first nine, 10, and 11 chapters that he has made his case, and he said, do you guys get this? So I'm begging you, do what you've got to do to bring yourself as a sacrifice to God and allow him to mature you because you are important to bringing Israel into a revelation of who God is. You're the ones that God's gonna be using to help provoke them, but if you are asleep and you think nothing of this, you are slowing down the process.

I hate to sound so passionate, man, but I'm passionate about it. Hey, Jeff, all right, so not just the obvious connection of through Israel's disobedience, the gospel now comes to the Gentiles. Now it's for the Gentiles to show mercy back on Israel and that God has concluded all men, Jew, Gentile, all human beings in unbelief and sin that he may have mercy on us all.

So in light of these extreme mercies, present your body a living sacrifice, but by presenting your body a living sacrifice, Gentile Christians that Paul's addressed, you will now fulfill your mission to make Israel envious by walking in that supernatural love and power and reality of the spirit. Yes. Got it, all right, yeah. Yes.

Right, I've never thought of that angle either, so that's a great point to consider. See, here's the thing, Mike, and I know I gotta go, but that is why I... Do I have permission to take about 10 seconds to talk about why I wrote this book? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so go ahead.

Jeff Rogers, an old friend from Maryland, we've known each other and his family for many, many years. So what's the title of your new book? The title is God's Love is Different, a Biblical Theology on the Love of God. Okay, so here's what I want to ask you. Yes.

As a Christian, as an African-American Christian, how is it that God put the love that he put in your heart for Israel to the point that for many years your congregation met, your church met in a synagogue and you shared the building. Twenty-four years. Twenty-four years, yeah, and I spoke there.

Twenty-four years. I mean, just utterly remarkable, and you did joint services. Your choir would sing.

Yes. Their choir would sing. You did joint services with the rabbi and the synagogue, everybody knowing who you each were.

I mean, it was one of the most remarkable things I ever saw. Remarkable for the synagogue, remarkable for you guys. And some of the congregants would sneak to us and say, pray for us, because I heard that you pray for people that are sick. So they would sneak to be prayed for.

Amazing. And that kind of addressed that question that you raised earlier that, do the Jews hate us? Well, that's not our experience.

Yeah, exactly. So how was it in the Lord that this love for Israel and the Jewish people dropped in your heart? Oh, man, the short story, it's all about the Holy Ghost. It's all about the Holy Spirit. I couldn't care less.

I could not care less about other people. And then when I was filled with the Holy Ghost, when I submitted myself to give myself to the Lord and allow him to change me, I was filled with the Holy Ghost, and what I found out is that there was this immediate thing of love that flowed through me that I did not really make the connection until, sadly to say, just sad to say it, for 30 years, for 30 years, I never fully understood the dynamic of the love of God until I started looking into this subject 10 years ago and trying to understand it because it was a revelation. I always, you know, everybody thinks, oh, I got this thing about the love of God on lockdown.

Oh, I know about it. Well, I felt that way. And then God begins to give me this revelation about his love, and it's very different, and so it's because of that love that it would cause me to see the purposes of God greater than, if you will, my allegiance to black culture, African American thought, and all the ways that we in the African American community struggle to gain dignity by looking at our culture, but there's something greater than that, and that's the culture of the kingdom of God. That's the culture of heaven. So it's all about the love of God that you allow to dominate you, and then you begin to find yourself aligning with the mind of God, with the heart of God, so when it comes to Israel, there is no compromise on this because it's part of the overall plan of God, and I've heard, just like you, I've heard all of the arguments of why black folks think that they're going to do Israel all the way to God doesn't care about Israel, all the way to the churches replacing Israel. All this stuff, man, it is bogus. It is not the mind of God, and God has laid out what we were supposed to be in terms of the people that continue to move in the love that Jesus commanded us to see past all of the carnality and all of the wrong things and see this nation as a nation that God has made promises to to the fathers, and the very least that we are to do, the very least, is to pray for them. That's the very least we're to do, man.

Hey, Jeff, thanks for sharing that. Thanks for your passion. And, you know, here's the thing that I don't get. Christians of all people on the earth understand mercy. Christians of all people on the earth understand grace. Christians of all people on the earth understand that we don't get what we deserve through the cross. We get the opposite of what we deserve. God's unmerited favor. God's riches at Christ's expense. And yet, when God wants to have mercy on Israel and the Jewish people, Christians get all worked up.

It makes no sense. Hey, Jeff, thank you for the call. Much appreciated.

Let us go over to Kathy in Wilmington, North Carolina. Welcome to the Line of Fire. Thank you, thank you.

I have a question, a comment. First of all, I don't have my Bible with me because I have to stop on the side of the road. Isn't there a scripture that actually tells you what land God gave to the Jewish nation?

It's actually written out. There's a section in the Bible, the book of Genesis, that tells you exactly what land was given to them. Now, you can tell me, was it that Gaza Strip?

Wasn't it part of that land? Number one. Number two, a peep, that caller before the last gentleman, the young man, I think, was confused.

I think we need to keep it simple. Please explain to everyone that Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael was born out of wedlock. Sarah, who was Isaac's mother, he was the child of God.

I don't want to be rude, but I'm going to be out of time in a moment, so I'm sorry to jump in. Actually, Ishmael was not born out of wedlock because Hagar was given as a wife to Abraham at Sarah's request. But bottom line, one was born in the flesh, one was born in the spirit, make that point that you would have made, right? So Ishmael, the religion of the flesh that ends up being Islam, and through Isaac, the religion of the spirit, the Jewish people then, Jesus the Messiah. But in Genesis 15, there's a comprehensive description of what the land would be. There are quite a few other descriptions in the Hebrew Bible, some more expansive than others. But yes, the most expansive, and then all of them would include Gaza. The most expansive would go down into Egypt, would go to the other side of the Jordan, et cetera.

Those would be the most expansive in terms of the land that was promised. Israel never dwelt in all of it in history, and I don't believe we'll see all that happen until the Messiah returns and establishes his kingdom on the earth. But yes, this would have been part of the promised land, Gaza, and it doesn't mean Israel just take it over now because Israel's owning the land by grace, not because of righteous repentance that God brought us back, but by grace and mercy. But yes, Gaza was absolutely part of the promised land, for sure, as well as what we call the West Bank, that was Judea and Samaria. So God has the right to give it to whomever he wants, but as far as his promises, read Psalm 105.

You'll see about 10 verses in the most overwhelming repetition of God's purposes and promises. He's faithful. Salvation comes only through Jesus, Yeshua, through Jew and Gentile. And in him, Jew and Gentile are one. But his promises to Israel remain because God keeps his word. Friends, you can trust him.

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