Alright, so we're moving to hour number two. Program brought to you by FanDuel. I'm Jim Rome. Great to be with you. Appreciate FanDuel.
And coming up next segment, the WBC Worldweight Champion of the World, Ryan Garcia, has got a big fight coming up. Huge fight coming up this weekend.
So we'll chop it up with him in about 20 minutes. Again, Kevin Pilar. That was a pros pro and is right now, is a media guy. Like, when I say that he's building a media empire, he is. Like, he's everywhere and he's doing great work.
But. I just stress this as a Southern California guy. You know, I famously said that I played my Little League baseball in Sherman Oaks, the Sherman Oaks Little League, and that's why we went to the Sportsman's Lodge. Again, this is very, very regional. This is just for Southern California, although the show is national on scope and has been for quite some time.
But that's where I'd play my Little League ball. And then I'd go to the Sportsman's Lodge, also in the Valley, get my little. Kit for screwdrivers and always got a kick out of that. But then the reason I bought the house. Jano and I were not married yet.
I bought the house in West Hills because I lived in an apartment complex prior to that. In fact, I lived in that same apartment complex during the Northridge earthquake. Scary times. But even the Northridge earthquake was not as disturbing to me as the fact that I bought my first nice car. That's when I finally was on the come up.
Had the radio show, got the TV show, finally started to get paid a little bit of cash. Bought myself my first nice car, my dream car. The car that I've been dreaming of for years. a convertible BMW. Got that car.
This is right when. Cell phones were becoming a thing. I mean, you remember the old Motorolas, the bricks, they were gigantic. They'd flip. They had the antenna you'd pull out.
Not like the iPhone 4SE or whatever it was he bought when he got drafted. I'm talking about prior to iPhones. Left mine on my car seat. It tells you how unimportant car phones were back then, or mobile phones. Like, I left it in my car.
But what did I think? I mean, I drove into an apartment complex that had a gate. I didn't care. I wasn't going to use it at night. I wasn't thinking about it.
We weren't actually using it, there was no social media, there was nothing. It was just cellular technology.
Somebody cut through the roof of my car. To get the cell phone. The phone probably cost a few hundred bucks back then. It cost me a few thousand to repair the roof. I'm like, screw that.
I'm just going to get a house and a garage. 'Cause I figured I knew what it aimed at some point. But in that same Area, West Hills. West Hills.
So he and I were probably neighbors. He wasn't even born yet. The story that I'm telling you, when that transpired, he wasn't even born yet. That's how long ago that was. But that literally that he came from is renowned.
West Hills Little League.
So that was cool to talk to a fellow 818er. All right, some breaking news to start hour number two. Here's a little background for you and some breaking news. Our guy Dan Woikey has this at Dan Woikey Sports. Quote.
Just in. The Los Angeles Lakers will unveil a Phil Jackson statue on april ninth before their game with Minnesota. Jackson coached the Lakers to five NBA titles, seven finals appearances. He will be the ninth member of the organization with a statue in Star Plaza outside their home arena. Jackson.
Seven NBA Finals. Even though he was a nick and a bull. He's worthy of that. Where I'm mostly excited about that is, I want to see how badly the sculptor butchers his statue because no statue looks anything like anybody that they're supposed to be made of these days. We've seen so many examples of this.
Like, how are the artists jacking these up? Like, if you didn't have an, okay, if you're watching on the stream right now, if you didn't have a jersey number, who would you say that was? I'm showing Dwanye. That was tragic. His bronze statue.
That looks more like LeBron than Duanier. It doesn't even look like LeBron. It doesn't even look like Duanier. It doesn't even look like Alonzo. It doesn't.
It doesn't look like it looks more like Pat Riley than any of those guys. It doesn't look like any human being I've ever seen. Like Who who looks at a picture, and these guys are like famed. Famed artists. Who looks at Dwayne Wade and comes up with that?
That's the best sport right now. in terms of these statues. They look nothing, nothing like the person they're supposed to look like. I can't wait to see how badly whoever they commissioned Phil Jackson's statue to, how badly he jacks it up or she jacks it up. For that, I want to see the unveiling.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have much interest. Anyway, he joins Kareem. Elgin Baylor, Kobe, Chick Hearn. Urv. Shack.
Pat Riley and Jerry West. Kobe's good. Kobe looks good. Riley, I don't know about that arm, that kind of. He kinda did that a little bit.
It's still way better than Duanier. Everything is. Anyway, Phil. Have fun with that. It it's much deserved.
However, what they do to you may not be much deserved. That's what I'm most interested in.
Alright, this from Adam Schefter. Not surprising at all. I got one more for ya, if you're watching on the stream. It's coming. Wait for it.
Wait for it. And maybe it's not. Adam Schefter.
Sources Rams standout, defensive tackle Aaron Donald will not travel to Australia for Thursday night's opener against the Forty Niners and will be inactive per me and rap sheet. The Rams wanted to give Donald more time to ramp up before making his much-anticipated return after two seasons of retirement. That's not surprising at all. Dude, that is an ass-kicking flight. If he's not quite there yet, why are you going to make him sit on that plane that long to play that number of snaps?
Totally unnecessary. Mm. Totally. Yeah, that that does not surprise me in the least. All right, so Kyle Shanahan is already there and having a lot of trouble with the time difference.
And that's why I was so curious to see the way the 49ers were going to handle that and when they were going to arrive and the way they were going to set it up as opposed to the Rams and when they were going to arrive. And remember, the 49ers were pissed. The 49ers never wanted to go in the first place. The 49ers think that the Rams somehow got over because the 49ers always have more fans. in SoFi than the Ram fans or the Rams do.
And they're like, of course the Rams want to go to Australia. They'll have more of a home field advantage there than they will in their own house. I I love that Ram House is in Australia.
So you have that. Let's see. Here is the quote from Kyle Shanahan: Quote: It's cool for us because we always have an advantage having one home game a year in LA with the way our fans are with taking over that stadium.
So it's disappointing to let them off the hook and get them out of that. But knowing how our fans roll. I See, he's not. That's not even like Kyle talking junk. That's him being serious.
Like, he's pissed. Not only do we not wanna have to go to Australia. But that's a home game that we have against a main rival. In state. That we look forward to every single year because we know we'll see more red in the stands than we will.
Yellow and blue. And he's not wrong. But to allege that the Rams are happy. and would rather go to Australia than to stay at home? And play the 49ers is pretty funny.
And actually, maybe pretty true. Man, you know that's bad. Which brings us back to the argument about is this a great sports town or not. Notice the Trojans did what they had to do in their second game, but nobody really showed up for that game either. And the weather, you can't use the weather as an excuse in that second game against Fresno State.
Hey, by the way, you know it look good. Use yellow. UCLA It's only one game. And it was against Cal, and Cal looked better than Cal has looked lately. But damn, how's that for all hire at UCLA?
So great. Only one game. As Dabo made clear, only one game. But Bob Chesney's off to a great start. Great start.
And is anybody surprised? In fact, do you have that? Lorne? Because none other, we've got some b-roll, we've got some video that was shot by none other than former XR4TIR. Jack Savage.
If you've been checking Jack out on social, he left us. Great guy. Really good dude. One of our favorite X in our 40 hours, left us, moved to London. I'm not sure how long Jack was there.
Maybe a year, a little more. Alvie, you always know stuff like this. How long was Jack in London? Year and a half? Year?
Year two years. There he is. At Jack John Savage with the B roll. The 2026 UCLA Bruins. Man, Bob Chesney's got the energy.
Love it. Love it. They just had different vibe, different energy. Everything about them was different. Yes, it was Cal.
Yes, it was only one game. But compared to when we last saw them. It looks awesome. What a great hire. Cow had no trouble filling the stadium.
Did they Absolutely have a new energy up there. Great environment, great crowd.
So I like that. Also, today Another big day in history. I don't want to give it away just yet. But I'll hit you on that a little bit later on. What I do want to do is make sure I get out on time because the champ, Ryan Garcia, is scheduled to join us next.
And no, he's not. But We are angling for next hour.
So I'm not giving up on him yet.
So that opens it up to you. 1800-636-8686. Today is a famous, famous day in sports history, a day with jungle background. And a famous day in sports history. Not a famous day in jungle history, but a famous day in sports history that involved a jungle legend.
How about that? I'll have that for you a little bit later on.
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Could college football right now be any more convoluted? Or any more insufferable in the way of courtroom drama than it is right now. I mean, it's the revelation that apparently you want really aggravating. Apparently, come to find out. And I didn't know this.
Maybe you knew this. Maybe there is something you did know. that I didn't know. But I didn't know there could be two clocks in the in a college football game. Apparently there are.
the clock that you can see on the broadcast. And even the clock you can see in the stadium. That's not officially official. That clock that we've all been looking at for decades, not officially official, come to find out.
Now, if that sounds like bull crap to you. I might just agree with you on that one. The fact that that clock that we see in the stadium is not the actual clock. If you want to call bullcrop on that, I think I will get in line with you on that one. Never has there been so much controversy about the clock.
But I will give you men of Michigan this much. You really have outdone yourselves. Although it's probably the Big Ten that should get the bulk of the credit for this one. For bailing the men of Michigan out from one of their most embarrassing losses ever. Because despite being twenty seven and a half point favorites, Michigan spent sixty minutes getting their asses handed to them in their own house.
The big house. Right? by Western Michigan on Saturday night. But for the first time ever, winning in sixty minutes was not enough. Western Michigan had to beat the Wolverines over exactly sixty minutes and one additional second.
Which, of course, was all they needed to escape the most embarrassing loss ever. And of course, it happened. This is what happened in that one bonus second that they were gifted. 2013 Iron Bull. Will it be A Bryce Underwood magical moment.
To throw away the hopes of the Broncos. On third down. Deep drop. Gonna unload it towards the end zone. Into the corner.
Come in his car. JJ Buchanan touchdown A miracle at Michigan Stadium. What you would call a miracle, I would call a gift. But then again, that's why you bring in that five-star and pay him millions and millions and millions of dollars. No, then again, that's not why you do that.
He shouldn't have to bring in a five-star and pay him millions of dollars to. Get a second chance that you should never have. Gotten in the first place. To make a play to beat Western Michigan and play horribly the entire game. Either way.
From zeros on the clock to that. From Western Michigan believing that they had one of the biggest wins in program history to that. And then exactly, why did that happen? Why was there an extra second added back on the clock after the first failed Hail Mary attempt? Turns out, according to the Big Ten, it's because the clock that you could see on the broadcast was not the official time.
There was a second clock that we could not see, but the Big Ten replay officials could see. And then according to that second clock, there was still about a tick, a little less than a tick left when a Western Michigan player stepped out of bounds and then came back in to touch the football on the initial Hail Mary attempt. Oh. Sure there wasn't. If you look at the view that we saw on national television, it's very clear that the clock hit triple zeros long before that Western Michigan player who stepped out of bounds touched it.
But According to the Big Ten. The clocks plural. I didn't know there was more than one clock, but the clocks plural were somehow out of sync. And somehow there was an official clock that nobody else got to see that was just a tick slower than the clock that the entire world got to see. I mean, what a coinky dink.
How convenient Even soccer, in its ludicrously vague timekeeping, thinks that that is absurd. There can't be two clocks. There's only one clock. It's the one on the scoreboard that is synced to our broadcast, period. There's no way this can be a new precedent.
What, a league can just pull out their private secret clock, their own secret, private clock that serves them when necessary, that's different than the clock that the entire planet is seeing? The hell are we doing here now? There's a secret clock that we're unaware of. The clock. Laid out that in the NFL, They would always use the public-facing broadcast clock if there ever was some kind of mix-up for obvious reasons.
you know, these reasons. Because the tinfoilers would have an absolute field day if the NFL ever tried to say they keep their own secret private time. But apparently the Big Ten has no problem doing just that. In any event, there's no way Western Michigan should have let them complete a 60-yard Hail Mary to gag away that game. I'll acknowledge that.
But just like there's no way Michigan fan should be field storming after the ugliest win in program history. Man, I love the guy on X who charts field stormings. It's one of my favorite charts ever. He charts field stormings and he calculated that this was statistically the saddest. Field storm in college football history.
Considering Michigan was a 27.5 point favorite. Uh I'd have to agree. I would argue I would argue the opponent being Western Michigan makes it even more cringe than the twenty seven and a half point spread. Storming the field as a four touchdown favorite does not exactly suggest best and brightest Michigan man. In fact, it suggests idiocy.
It's idiotic. You were gifted a win that you did not deserve. Get the hell out of your building and just be glad you're not 0-1 after being manhandled all day long by Western Michigan, a directional school in your own state, in your own building that knocked the crap out of you for 60 minutes. As far as there being a quote official clock that none of us are privy to. Does that clock say just keep chucking it to the end zone until you complete one of those Hail Marys?
We'll stay out here all night long if we have to. Like, what is the point of having an unofficial clock that the entire world thinks is legit? And then an official clock that, I don't know, five people know about. Damn. Western Michigan, don't you know how the game is played?
Are you not paying attention? Get yourself some lawyers and a TRO. Which, by the way, they finally did after the fact. They finally have appeal that. What took you so long?
Have you not been paying attention? And yes, for once, tinfoilers, I am sitting with you in your tinfoil section, rocking that same tinfoil hat that you are, because that was sketchy as hell. Only thing missing, as I mentioned, was Michigan Man ripping down the goalposts and marching them through Ann Arbor after their enormous come-from-behind last-second victory over a directional school within the same state that they played at home, that they were four touchdown favorites against. Michigan University, we love you. Michigan, man, it just gets more and more embarrassing.
Look at them on the field. Shirts off, celebrating. That incredible win against a directional school from in state that there were four touchdown favorites against. Is that what it's come to already, Michigan man? Man, get the hell off your field.
Michigan man should never be on their field. Celebrating against maybe Maybe Ohio State. Maybe Indiana at this point. Or Western Michigan. My, how the mighty have fallen.
I'd love to hear it, Michigan, man. Why was that all right? Why was it all right for you to be on your own field? What were you so proud of that you were running around on your own field with your shirts off? After the Big Ten gave you an extra play.
That nobody else was aware of. I take my shirt off when we beat Western Michigan. And seriously, seriously, an official clock? What have we been wasting all of our time on all these decades? If the clock on the scoreboard is not the official clock.
When did we institute an Okay, that is the unofficial clock. When did we institute an official clock that none of us are privy to? And although it took them a minute, and I don't know why it took them a minute. It didn't take the SEC more than one second. To escalate against Lane Kiffin.
It took the Mac a minute. Before they decided, you know what, we don't buy it either. Wait a minute, we got screwed! Wait a minute, why are we accepting that there's an official clock that we didn't even know about?
So the Mac has come with their official statement. After further study and investigation, it is now evident But what further study and investigation did you need? Hey, Mac. Hey, hey Mac conference, do you need Media Consult? I'm available as a consultant.
After further study and investigation, long story short, they're not buying it. They are submitting a formal appeal. to the NCAA FBS Oversight Committee. and the college football playoff. Have fun with that.
Have fun with that. Given that they just handed them that win. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to just rip that wind from them. And yet again, What are we talking about the day after a big weekend of college football? Not ball.
We're talking about T R O's Lawsuits, expulsions, secret clocks, made-up rules. Man, that must be nice to be able to make up your own rules as you go along. Hey, wait a minute now. This is not going to be a good look for our conference. Way to go.
Michigan embarrassing the hell out of us again. Can't have that. Hey, hey, uh at a second of the clock. We'll just tell them that there's an official clock. And that's not it.
Give it our shot. Had a second on the clock. Bryce will pick us up. He'll make a throw. Was that a real game even?
If the clock's fake, how do I know the game's not fake? Is anything real? If the clock is fake. How do I know if the game is real? Oh, it's real if Michigan wins No, Michigan, man.
No credit for Bryce making an incredible throw. I said it was. For real. It was a great throw. A throw that he should have never been allowed to make in the first place.
And a throw that he should make. What about the rest of the game and how horrible he looked? Let's see. And the fact that they were kicking your ass up and down the field the entire game. What about that?
For real. Why did you even need the The official clock that came out of nowhere. Why did you even need that giant favorite from the conference? You were twenty seven point five point favorites at home. There's a that's a paycheck game.
There's a reason why you schedule that game when you schedule that game. It's an automatic win. Until you're trailing at the end of that game. But, but you had your conference to pick you up.
So we have one conference. Picking up one of their legends, and another conference threatening to expel one of their legends. What the hell is going on here? The two biggest conferences in college football. Arguably.
Actually. The Big Ten, the SEC. And where are we at? We have A fake clock And then we have another conference trying to get rid of the LSU when LSU is arguably the best team in their conference and had every bit the look of a national champion. Damn, college football.
The drama. Yeah, but I will say this for it. You can't say there aren't eyeballs. We're just not talking about ball. We're talking about fake clocks and courtroom drama.
One eight hundred six three six eight six eight six Jay and Tampa, you guys are just mad because we suck. Side, Michigan, man. That's good. Normally, Jay nailed that. Normally, Michigan man's like, man.
All this hate. You just hate us 'cause we're great. You just hate us because you ain't us. You just hate us because you can't. You just hate us because we're Michigan men.
He wrote, You guys just hate us because we suck. Old Haas Radbourne. Hey Haas, are you the oldest guy in the chat? Just asking. Mm-hmm.
The M stands for mulligan. Or messed up. Or making up new rules to suit us as we go. JJ Sports Mo. Six months without football, and then the ref show is back.
The thing about that is the ref show never actually really leaves. There might not be games, but the ref show is always there. They never actually leave. There is no offseason for the ref show. All right, when we come back.
I've got some more things I want to get to. As I mentioned, it's a famous day in sports history that involves a jungle legend. I've got some thoughts on Mike Tomlin. More straight fire from Mike Tomlin. It's still overdue, but I mean for him it is straight fire.
And then the Rams and the Niners. I had the breaking story from Adam Schefter that. That Aaron Donald is not going to make the flight. Then why would he? I'm not surprised.
I would have been way more surprised if he made the flight to Australia than this news that he's not making the flight to Australia. All right, all of that still ahead, plus a conversation with Ryan Garcia, and that's next hour. Stay tuned. You're listening to the Jim Rome Show. So, this dude right here is not having it.
Welcome back. I'm Jim Rome. I want to remind you: we are on Westwood One Sports, we are on SiriusXM. We are also on our YouTube channel. If you go there, can you go ahead and hit subscribe and then ring that bell and then jump up in the chat?
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So lots of different ways to sample the product. This guy's just not buying it. At A T F James, Rome. They lost. You don't tell us there's some hidden clock.
Give me a break. Bro, why is all the animus pointed at me? What did I do? The thing is, I know they lost. But they didn't.
Go look at the standings. Their record says 1 and 0, not 0 and 1. And I'll tell you something else. The Mac may have done what it thought that it had to do by appealing. It's not going to make a damn bit of difference.
They're not reversing that. They're not going to give that game to Western Michigan. No, I agree. They did lose. This is what I just spent 10 minutes saying.
They lost. Unfortunately, When you say to me, you don't tell us there is some hidden clock. There was a hidden clock. I didn't know about it. I'm not the one telling you that, ATF James.
The Big Ten is. I didn't know about the hidden clock. I had no idea. The Big Ten is telling you that, not me. What do you mean, give me a break?
You you want me to give you a break? I'm on your side. Break. Hit Big 10. Nice font.
There's their statement. from the Big Ten conference. Their unreadable word-salad statement made worse by their choice of blue font. They're saying that all the clocks are synced. Except for the separate The clock.
Great. When did we ever have a separate secret clock? And how long have we had this separate secret clock? Did that separate secret clock jump out of the woodwork the second that first Hail Mary hit the ground? I want to know how long we've had a separate secret clock.
Help me with that, Big Ten. Because something tells me that separate secret, I can't believe it. I'm getting dragged into tinfoil. 'Kay. Hell.
Like, I was never going to go there. But it's almost like I have no choice. Where did this separate secret clock come from? How long has it been in existence? Or did somebody just break out that watch when that ball hit the ground?
After they Hail Mary. Amberson, Rome. Don't you know that in football you're taught to play hard for an entire 60 minutes? Unless you're playing Michigan, then it's 6001. He go, Amber.
War Lady clones. My thing is, Amber, if they kept messing up that Hail Mary, how do we know that? I mean, you gotta play hard for the entire five days. They could have been out there right now, still chucking it into the end zone. Ah, the secret clock says there's one week left in this game.
We're going to stay out here until they complete that pass, all right? That's what the secret clock says. We'll be out here until the next week if we have to. We'll be out here till the bye week if we have to. We'll be out here till the college football playoff if we have to.
That's what this clock says. We'll be out here until all, every last one of you, Michigan men, runs out of eligibility if we have to. We'll be out here until they put wit in the ground, if we have to. Hey, don't call me a hater. I like wit.
Whitney always did well. We came on this show for years, years. When he was with Utah. Don't call me a hater. You know what I hate?
Yeah, okay, I'll own it. I am a hater. You know what I hate? Secret clocks that come out of nowhere. That's what I hate.
Yeah, I guess I'm a hater.
Okay. I hate when I'm led to believe my entire life that the official clock is the one that's on the scoreboard and on the field. And on T V. Hate's a strong word. But I hate here are the things that I hate.
Secret clocks that I knew nothing about that determine the outcome of games. Hey Rome, did you bet that game? No. No, don't even think that's what that's about. None of my takes ever, ever, ever, ever.
Revolve me having action on something. I will not allow that to ever impact my take. I'm not like you degenerates that jump into the DMs or comments of players who lose or teams that lose and go absolutely berserk and then threaten them. I just want to know about a secret clock. When did we start to have secret clocks?
And if they can get away with something like that, is that not a precedent? If the Big Ten's got a secret clock, does the SEC have one? Does the Big 12 have one? Does the ACC have one? SA Sports Hawk back for more.
Rome. Even I was utterly shocked. Utterly U D D E R L Y By that game-winning Hale Mary from Michigan. Sincerely, Mark in Boston. Ken, too clever.
Little too clever. Brad from Reading. Hey, Jim, I agree. What an embarrassment that game was for Michigan. Yours?
Greg Ciano. Good point. All right. Hey Lauren, tell me if you can do this. I know you don't like it when I do this to you, and if you can't, you can't.
But can we talk about that? Famous day. In the history of sports. Because in nineteen seventy four. 1974 This happened.
Good job, Lauren. Or her XCR. Do you know what that is? That's the freaking Snake River Canyon jump attempt from my man Ilk and Evil. Come on!
Okay, Evil, stay with the bird, stay with the bird. It looks like you're gonna go into the bottom of the bottom. Evil, stay with it. I don't think he's going to make it across the canyon. The only question then is: is he going to die?
Put your advisor up and take off. Where are you going to land? Man, my favorite thing: I love Evil. You know, I loved Evil. And I love that we had a relationship, and I love that he was such a good friend of the program.
You gotta love that Evil reached a point where just jumping things with his motorcycle was not enough. And bam, right on that little island or burns. Into the water. If you're watching on the stream. 1974, he attempted the Snake River Canyon jump.
Eva was the best. I mean, it started off as him just kind of jumping over buses. Then move to Las Vegas and try to jump over the fountains. I think it's Caesar's Palace. And then, like, you know what, screw it.
Screw it. Let's try to jump over the Snake River Canyon. Is that one the one where that egotistical bastard Gus Grissom tried to burn him to death. Going into the jump, the Snake River jump, what were your chances in your own mind? I mean, very clearly you understood the danger for all of the stunts, but when you went into that one, 50-50, you thought?
Yeah. I put a lot of faith in a and an engineer named Bob Truax, who built the rocket for me in the My bad. He worked with the astronauts that thought they knew what they were doing when they burnt Gus Grissom to death with two other astronauts on that launch pad. Done it. That was my confusion.
Sorry, Gus. He built the parachute so it absolutely malfunctioned because of the G-load. He's the one that caused the accident. The way I look at it though, If I'd have made it, everybody would have said it was easy. If I'd have missed it and died, everybody said, Well, that's supposed to be what happens to daredevils like him.
But uh I didn't. I landed down on those rocks and and in that water and I don't see no big long line of daredevils standing up there wanting to take a shot at, and here it is almost thirty years later. Hey, let me ask you something. If you thought it was fifty-fifty, if you thought that you had a coin flip's chance of survival, a coin flip's chance that you might buy it and die, why do it? You know who the hell I am?
Roasted. I'm not gonna lie to you, I'm like I I got him gotcha. Gotcha. Why would you do that, dude? Why would you do that if you knew there was a coin flips chance that you might die?
You know who the hell I am? You know who the hell I am. Roasted! I had never been so happy to be roasted by a guest. That was such a great jungle moment.
He's like, 30 years later, I don't see any line of any other daredevils trying to get that thing done. That know-it-all little bastard. Bob Truax. RIP, my dude.
So that was today in 1974. Evil tried to jump the Snake River Canyon. Imagine being evil back in the day, like What could we jump? What what could we do? How do we keep raising the bar?
How do we keep raising the bar? What do we do now? My dude. Evil Knievel. All right, so when we come back, we go into hour number three.
I'm going to take another shot at the champ, Ryan Garcia. His workout ran late, so we're going to try and run him down in about 25 minutes. Stay tuned for that.